pvp

[tropic schooner]

I have not bound any of my movement keys

[raw notch]

i been playing shift a for all my main attacks since classic

so i cant move left and hit

[tropic schooner]

thats diabolical

[raw notch]

xD

[tidal widget]

Can't right now

[tiny oar]

FUCK

[raw notch]

damn.. rip Lefty

I volunteer as tribute

[tidal widget]

I'm gonna bind Rip to Ctrl + F12 trust

[grand mesa]

like im a firm believer key binds are subjective and a matter of preference

but uh

[tropic schooner]

you just need a longer nose

press ctrl with your little finger

and then f12 with your nose

ez

[tidal widget]

The person who mentored me into WoW had 0 keybinds so I'm gonna be fine

[tropic schooner]

no you arent fine

[tidal widget]

Fr

[raw notch]

u kno how annoying it is to queue into a solo shuffle with 3 monks..

how can u even tell them apart

[tidal widget]

Racist

You think all pandas look the same huh

[raw notch]

u think i look at anything besides my plater green bar

wronggg

[tidal widget]

On the subject of mods

I use none for pvp other than BetterBlizzFrames

To show CDs

I tried plater and betterblizplates but I didn't like either of them

I use Details for pve only

[tropic schooner]

never heard of better blizz frames

[grand mesa]

goated addon

using it rn

[tidal widget]

And gladiusex failed to hide blizz bars so I disabled that too

[tropic schooner]

what kind of addon is it

a better big debuffs?

[grand mesa]

nah just cleans up raid frames/unit player frames

adds alot of functionality

pretty much just improves stock

i dropped plater for betterblizzplates recently

[raw notch]

anyone kno why mages open with sap btw?

er

rogues

loool

[tropic schooner]

but isnt plater for nameplates?

[grand mesa]

but the author does not know how to GUI

[tropic schooner]

and not for raid frames/unit frames

[grand mesa]

yeah seperate addons

BBF and BBP

[tropic schooner]

god that looks awful

[grand mesa]

even he says he needs to sit down and rework it someday

was chatting with him yesterday about it lol

just one of those things where scope and functionality grew over time

as requests were made

[tropic schooner]

ah but you can do the big debuff functionality with that too?

[grand mesa]

thats moreso like

adding the ability to whitelist/blacklist edit unit frame auras

[tropic schooner]

so you can make lets say UA big on that?

[grand mesa]

for example

and also a blacklist

so i spent forever just sitting in a BG and clicking players and blacklisting a bunch of bullshit

a while ago

[tiny oar]

puzzle is so insane

[raw notch]

while I do not like the way your nameplates are set up cuz im a dire fan of my plater profile, I absolutely adore the sound weak auras you have set up

[tropic schooner]

can you only black/white list? or can you also make specific debuffs more prevelant/over write others?

[grand mesa]

lmaooo

[raw notch]

I waana kno who moaned into the mic for that one frfr ong

[grand mesa]

@tepid spoke

[tiny oar]

[grand mesa]

he did

i ran out of moans

so i asked mattiu

to moan for me and send me recording

[tiny oar]

lmao

[grand mesa]

and now that's a staple in all my WAs

[tropic schooner]

he likely just send one from his stash

[grand mesa]

he didn't even ask why

[raw notch]

ur such a g for that

[grand mesa]

he just sent

good friend

[tiny oar]

huge aura

i would send it insta too

thats how much i love u puzz

[grand mesa]

not 100% sure what u mean

[grand mesa]

gimme a use case

[tiny oar]

LOL

[tardy hare]

Make for example UA bigger

So it pops more

[tiny oar]

am i pugging 2s w randoms and streaming friends

[tropic schooner]

lets say I play vs affli lock and I usually wanna see all debuffs which happen, they cast corruption/agony and I see those normal, but then they cast UA I want to see that one bigger/more noteable

while still seeing the other 2

[grand mesa]

ya

[tropic schooner]

ah cool stuff

[raw notch]

lets gooo, finally stream times

[tropic schooner]

thats what I meant when I said better bigger debuffs

[tropic schooner]

should look into that

[grand mesa]

GUI is really bad and blaoted and overwhelming don't get me wrong

but functionality is goated

[tiny oar]

genuinely insane behaviour btw

[raw notch]

lake is a liar? theres no twitch stream

[tropic schooner]

yes famously

[raw notch]

hahaha

[tiny oar]

just me and the arena

[tiny oar]

NOT FAMOUSLY

WTFF

[tropic schooner]

sorry

infamously

[raw notch]

damn

[tiny oar]

[grand mesa]

i don't see lakez streams what is this

[raw notch]

[tiny oar]

im EATING FOOD

THEN I CAN

[grand mesa]

lakez i did a bad thing

[tiny oar]

what sin did u do today

[grand mesa]

i played RMP

[raw notch]

actually goated wut

[tiny oar]

okay man nice knowing you

have a great fucking life pal

[grand mesa]

hahahahahaha

[raw notch]

whats the best rdruid comp? wmd?

[tropic schooner]

can the tripple PI bug actually happen in pvp too

[grand mesa]

no clue

have they figured out what causes it

everything i saw recently says

no clue why that happens

[tropic schooner]

nope

[grand mesa]

[raw notch]

do yall think my lay actually saved this rogue, or did the healer top them and im dumb

[tropic schooner]

I dont really know how strong it is atom

but he was cocooned

[raw notch]

so he was safe

[grand mesa]

no wonder u can't tell which monk is which

[raw notch]

lol

i cant ses shit

[tropic schooner]

looked that way at least yea

[grand mesa]

was def overshielded by alot

but i know warriors can bust shields

really really easily

or something rn

[tropic schooner]

hold on tho

are you scared of your target

or why is that one in narnia

[raw notch]

who the war?

[tropic schooner]

yes

your frame is like other end of the screen

[raw notch]

oh target frame

[grand mesa]

tbh

[raw notch]

i wanted those to just be off screen

[grand mesa]

it's not like super important imo

lol

esp for newer players

[tropic schooner]

you could disable them

[raw notch]

watching gladdi frames and the cell one

[grand mesa]

only old heads like enten can actually look at that mess of icons

and see meaningful shit

that's what WAs are for nowadays

[tropic schooner]

hes storming

[tiny oar]

i parse a lot of shit thru player/target/focus frames but im old yea

[raw notch]

I thought the cast bar showing in the middle of my face would be fine

[tiny oar]

can do the same with just gladius / party frames and WAs

[grand mesa]

r u like this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1235688195937533972/1325267773886169098/20250105-0100-36.6958589.mp4?ex=682dce8b&is=682c7d0b&hm=1442d0b50dea3a7f28bf23e5dbd846afce45de7be2df3eab86bd1ccb4912433e&

[raw notch]

click targeting is starting to get on my nerves tho

[grand mesa]

i never look at unit frame auras

too much BS

[tiny oar]

yea thats me

OG shit

[raw notch]

xaryu is so hot

be like xaryu

[tiny oar]

yeaaaaaaa

[tiny oar]

i have target party123 and arena123 bound to mouse buttons

[grand mesa]

fuck that i download airhorn WA

[tiny oar]

helps a lot imo

[grand mesa]

based

i do the same thing

since MOP i was trying to figure out targetting that worked for me

and i didn't like any of them

scroll wheel, f1,f2,f3

none of it felt good

so i'd keep clicking frames/nameplates

MMO mouse just for targetting

was big for me

[raw notch]

i saw that most streamers seem to have two bars of identical spells but its all target party binds

[tropic schooner]

for ret id personally recommend having special buttons to use your utility on party 1/2

[tiny oar]

yea that too

bop sac etc

[tropic schooner]

cause you dont really wanna swap your main target to use the utility

[raw notch]

yea my util always been unbound so im struggling to find buttons for it

[grand mesa]

this is what i do

[tiny oar]

i have cleanse and clone on shift modifiers of the same buttons

[grand mesa]

and then shift + seond row

is cleanse 1/2/3

[tiny oar]

yeeee

[grand mesa]

shift + top row is kick 1/2/3

[raw notch]

ur a god if u can make ur fingers reach them far buttons

[tiny oar]

thats giga i need to add that now that fluid form works w skull bash

[grand mesa]

ah yeah true

[raw notch]

i can not get the top right one

[grand mesa]

it's nice being able to see nameplate 3 cast poly and i just kick it without thinking

[tiny oar]

yea

[grand mesa]

i couldn't do that in MOP

i got flamed as an ele shaman

[tropic schooner]

im currently playing without even focus kick/purge on lock in cata

[tiny oar]

i got tiny fingies too c:

[tropic schooner]

[grand mesa]

not being able to kick off targets

[tropic schooner]

its bad

[raw notch]

i get flamed all the time for bubbling too early

[grand mesa]

yeah that's probably not good

[tiny oar]

(its me im flaming val)

[tropic schooner]

if you arent sometimes dying without bubble

[raw notch]

im like.. my bad man.. i dont trust u

[tropic schooner]

you arent greedy enough

[grand mesa]

bubbling on the opener is so bad in shuffle

from healer pov

the round gonna feel like shit

[raw notch]

im being a lot more greedy now that I know the healer probably has cds for the first round of dmg

so popping the eye for an eye defensive instead and feasting

[tropic schooner]

how often do you die without bubble

[raw notch]

only if im gcd locked trying to save someone else

[tropic schooner]

die more often

[tiny oar]

bad news gang servers are down no lake stream

[raw notch]

oh yea its tuesday

lolw

[grand mesa]

i get it

the 0 trust

just like when @tough idol sat in turtle during a big pull in a +10

when im healing

the audacity

[raw notch]

lake is the sweetest actually and I have never gotten flamed by her

[grand mesa]

in a 10

[raw notch]

idk how she keeps all the toxic away

[tropic schooner]

[tiny oar]

toxic is reserved for my ops, you are my bestie :)

[raw notch]

if my team is being shit, they are now the ops

[tiny oar]

pinging weefs in here is crazy work brother

[grand mesa]

i await my death

[raw notch]

no puzzle, dont go

i barely knew ya

[tiny oar]

wheres the ramsey meme

PUZZ

give meme

[grand mesa]

https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/215619271/you-fucking-donkey

[raw notch]

u broke him

why doesnt solo shuffle let us keep going until everyone is dead

feels so cheep to win off of one death when its just a weak link most of the time

[tiny oar]

ty

[tropic schooner]

in the vast majority of games it wouldnt really change anything

and I think the possible 2v2 situations with 1 player on each side waiting while doing nothing and having to play more rounds after isnt worth it

[raw notch]

hahaha

I feel so invincible in the bubble tho

I want to kill

[grand mesa]

also cause u got annoying gameplay where people stall out and just be annoying

[tiny oar]

thats whats most important :)

go get em sweetie kill kill kill

not having bubble up is a healer adjust

[grand mesa]

@tiny oar do u like my stock nameplates

ditched plater

[raw notch]

[tiny oar]

what is showing friendlies like this

[grand mesa]

an addon

stock++

[tiny oar]

YEA DUDE WHAT ADDON BRO

[grand mesa]

betterblizzplates

just adjusts default nameplates

[tiny oar]

[raw notch]

plater does that too tho

[tiny oar]

okie

[raw notch]

I like your cast bars puzz

[tiny oar]

i will investigate this

[grand mesa]

i can just give u my profile

[tiny oar]

ayo ?

[grand mesa]

i'm doing the whole thing now where i look thru my vods

[tiny oar]

pretty please uwuu ?

[grand mesa]

and screenshotting mobs and nameplates and totems

i never want to see

[tiny oar]

XD

[grand mesa]

but bodify is adding the plater function where nameplates will be overlapping in pvp, but stacking in pve

so

[raw notch]

thats perfect use of server being down today

[grand mesa]

no one needs to see liquid magma totem

[tiny oar]

fuck that shit yea

[raw notch]

do yall actually hit totems

[tiny oar]

ill review ur vod and screenshot all my fuckups until servers are back up hold on

[grand mesa]

there's actually one thing that

[tiny oar]

healing stream / grounding / static totem /psyfiend

[grand mesa]

BBP does well

[raw notch]

also are we sposed to kill pets

[grand mesa]

that plater i couldn't find a mod for

[raw notch]

kk

[grand mesa]

i can make it so the whole color if they have debuff thing

is ONLY pve

which is huge

i've been swapping profiles in plater depending on what i was doing before

lol

[tiny oar]

this is so complex bro

[raw notch]

i was wondering why all your plater was purple

[tiny oar]

im losing my mind

[grand mesa]

when i was playing shadow?

yeah cause i had that mod

[raw notch]

mmmhm

[grand mesa]

for pve

it was kinda confusing yes

[raw notch]

tht was so annyoingggggggg

i never knew who was who

[grand mesa]

very simple

[tropic schooner]

werent you just confused with the 3 monks too

[grand mesa]

2 is monk 1 is paladin

[raw notch]

yes but just cuz... i got two monks on the same team

[tropic schooner]

based pala

[raw notch]

how am i sposed to kno which one is the healer one

[grand mesa]

we should all denounce lakez

set healer to focus

u get the default plater focus texture

also i have the + icon for healer which is clearly fucked by the wrong strata

on the top right

[tropic schooner]

hes also the one with DP up

[tiny oar]

WHAT

[raw notch]

Tyyyy that’s a good call

[tiny oar]

WHAT DO U MEAN?? IM A FUCKING ANGEL

[raw notch]

Angel without wings

[raw notch]

It’s ok tho, u can borrow mine

[raw notch]

Reeeee

[tiny oar]

im a dog im a dog woof fucking WOOF

[tough idol]

Jesus h

[grand mesa]

damnit

[tough idol]

I see it now

[tropic schooner]

@raw notch quick fire which monk is the healer

[tiny oar]

go val go

ANSWER NOW

[grand mesa]

[tropic schooner]

the quickfire is not working

its a very slow fire

[raw notch]

Top one on gladdy idk where they are in game tho

Right

[tiny oar]

the ww is the one right on top of me fucking my shit up

[grand mesa]

the one trying to beat the shit out of lakez is probably the WW

[raw notch]

No that’s a warlock

[grand mesa]

the one hiding behind pillar

[raw notch]

Sry

[grand mesa]

is probably the healer

[tropic schooner]

also playing SP/rdruid in 2s

thats very criminal behavior

[tiny oar]

HOW DO YOU LOOOOOOOOOSE IDIOTS

HOW DO YOU FUCKING LOOOOOOOOOOOOSE

[tiny oar]

criminal as in awful and bad and not a good comp yea sure

[grand mesa]

@stray sigil true?

[tropic schooner]

yes and criminal

I like that criminal behavior

played some caster/hpala the other day in 2s too

[tiny oar]

disgusting

i would never play that shit unless it was one of my buds asking to queue specifically

[grand mesa]

oh that sounds fun actually

cause hpal like

cranks rn

i think

if mmarkers youtube shorts are to be believed

[tiny oar]

yea i fought a hpal the other day

did 3x my dmg just spamming denounce and judgment

very sick game we got here

i am so fucking slow and old

[grand mesa]

rdru doesn't do damage wcyd

[tiny oar]

it does i just need to get even nastier

i need to ascend to new levels of breaking ankles

[grand mesa]

r u just watching the vod or something

[tiny oar]

yes

[raw notch]

When is a good time to trinket

[grand mesa]

as what

[raw notch]

I just sit on my trinket the most

As dps

[tropic schooner]

when you need it

[raw notch]

What do you need it for tho idk I only played arena for like a week

[tropic schooner]

when someone dies when you press it/when you get massive tempo when you press it

[raw notch]

So if u are cc during cds hit button

[tropic schooner]

thats not enough of a reason

you likely shouldnt press trinket without having cds up/wanting to use cds very soon

but just cause you have cds up doesnt mean you should use it

you could get cced after it again and waste trinket or maybe enemy already reacted to your cds so using trinket isnt useful

or you need trinket later for enemy go cause you/your teammate would die without it

[tiny oar]

yerrrrr

[tropic schooner]

while I havent played it in a while as shadow for example my rule of thumb was to not press trinket without using swap

[tiny oar]

prolly the most important one to be able to recognize before thinking about using it offensively

[raw notch]

There’s also sometimes I’m cc and get dispelled

[tropic schooner]

in 99% of cases

[grand mesa]

i think a general rule of thumb is u might die, and ur healer is in CC

then u can add nuance like do u even have a wall or something to press to pair with trinket or should u trinket or the healer

[raw notch]

Idk what types of cc can even be dispelled

[grand mesa]

and ofc if u think trinketing aggro can score a kill

[tropic schooner]

just play more to gather experience

[grand mesa]

here's how u tell

u send games with lakez

and trinket first CC insta

if she ree's

it was dispellable

[tiny oar]

yep

pretty much

[raw notch]

lol

[tiny oar]

[tropic schooner]

most importantly

if you get rooted

you have to insta trinket

[raw notch]

Dw im more likely to bubble

[tropic schooner]

especially when playing feral

[raw notch]

I also don’t kno when to use bop

[tiny oar]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-toy-with-me-miss-nagatoro-hayase-hayase-nagatoro-anime-miss-nagatoro-gif-3194964525569635045

[raw notch]

[tropic schooner]

when you need defensive vs physical damage

[tiny oar]

@raw notch if u ever trinket a root be prepared for me to call you a dog for the rest of time

[tropic schooner]

or removal of physical cc

[raw notch]

I’m prepared for that sometimes how’s that

[tiny oar]

ye these two p much

laugh at this healer she is a dog

[tropic schooner]

tbh could also sometimes pre use it to avoid peel

but that sounds somewhat advanced would not recommend to try that

[raw notch]

Avoid what now

[grand mesa]

when she says nothing when bad things are happening

[raw notch]

[tropic schooner]

literally the thing I just wrote

[grand mesa]

it was your fault

when she says im a dog woof woof

and woof's for real

then she fucked up

[tiny oar]

yep

[raw notch]

Ohhhhh she fucks up a lot

Ok

[tropic schooner]

you got some interesting arena sessions

[tiny oar]

LMAO

[tiny oar]

guess what happens next frame ill give u 3 guesses

[tropic schooner]

my last arena session in cata had a affli hpala vs feral disc we won because the disc ragequit after 30 mins

gotta win the mindgame

[grand mesa]

did i miss the fear on both

[tiny oar]

THIRTY MINUTES

[grand mesa]

what happened here

[raw notch]

30 mins i'd /afk too

[tropic schooner]

weak

[grand mesa]

@regal whale sat in a 4 hour game out of spite

[tropic schooner]

45 minutes woulda been a tie

[grand mesa]

and when the rogue whispered him to /roll for it

[tropic schooner]

im prepped for tbc arena

[grand mesa]

he called the rogue weak mental

and declined

[tropic schooner]

and hes right

[grand mesa]

oh no

[raw notch]

bro I did endless amounts of 30 min warr vs rdruid as enhance rdruid in classic. I never wanted to see another warr/rdruid in my life

[grand mesa]

i pulled a varu

and quarter fear

[tiny oar]

LOL

[tropic schooner]

what the fuck was that matchup

[grand mesa]

froll has his screenshots

he just sent them not long ago

[regal whale]

Why am I pingered in this unholy place

[tropic schooner]

rogue vs resto?

if rogue has several weapons

he should win

[tiny oar]

good morning welcome to my home doujinshi boy

[regal whale]

It was resto vs priest cause my warr died and his rogue died

[tropic schooner]

ah

hm think resto should probably eventually win

[regal whale]

Ye I won

[raw notch]

doujin b..boy

[tropic schooner]

keep resetting cat form

eventually the gear will be red

[regal whale]

Cause he went afk

[tropic schooner]

[regal whale]

Ye I was going for that

[tropic schooner]

smart

playing for your out

and the out was the weak mental

[regal whale]

Honesty I think they win if rogue doesn't leave to whisper

Because they have res pressure and I do t

[tiny oar]

little inside joke from another server

[tropic schooner]

think rolling for wins in 1v1 situations was fairly common in tbc

even in wotlk it happened but tbc didnt even have a timer

[regal whale]

Ye it was

[tropic schooner]

only played a bit to like 1800 or sth

cant remember

[raw notch]

druid discord is just full of surprises

[tropic schooner]

might play more once the new server hits tbc

[grand mesa]

i might actually play that

i missed TBC

two times now

[tropic schooner]

yea I mostly missed the last version too

played a bit at the start and end

but not too much

[grand mesa]

once to focus on college, second because sanctum/korthia came out the same time

this time

is the time

[tropic schooner]

trust

[tiny oar]

can i play the game yet

[raw notch]

29 characters

[tiny oar]

ill dm u the names its good stuff

[raw notch]

i'll be here

[tropic schooner]

kel'thuzad was the first server I ever played on back in vanilla

but that was a german server

[viscid remnant]

[livid wasp]

?

[grand mesa]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-chimera-mount-and-transmog-emerald-inferno-pack-now-available-for-30-376949

Looks great

[viscid remnant]

[vestal citrus]

RESKIN

[livid wasp]

blitz has got to be the hardest bracket to push in

if you are low mmr you cant climb

[random patrol]

well yeah you have to deal with 7 other people on your team

and hope their not braindead

[livid wasp]

like im playing on my alt druid which is like 2k mmr and the games are just 50-50 like at 3k mmr

no idea how you could push this

I have no idea how I ended up at 3k even

some insane winning streak at the beginning of s1 or something

[misty shuttle]

what is the win/lose ratio for alliance in epic BGs? been trying for DAYS to just get 1 win to get the pvp crafting stuff ;_;

[livid wasp]

no idea only playing rated

[tropic schooner]

likely very close to 50%

alterac historically usually slightly above

[misty shuttle]

sheesh

guess I've just been extremely unlucky

man there's no way it's 505

5050

are you EU?

[late wraith]

Can’t you queue as horde still? By talking to the guy

I feel like faction isn’t an actual issue in bgs anymore and hasn’t been for a very long time

[stray sigil]

q times matter still iirc

[late wraith]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/pvp/mercenary-mode#:~:text=Clicking on their dialogue box,battlegrounds as the opposite faction.

This gets you around that a little. I feel like I did this recently and still had to go to oribos lol. There’s not a new guy in valdrakken or dorn

[tropic schooner]

id be shocked if the actual number would be vastly different to that

[misty shuttle]

I'm fairly sure I've lost between 20-30 in a row

[tropic schooner]

without data I wont actually believe that but even if it would be 50/50 that would still be absolutely possible

but chance especially for the 30 is so incredibly unlikely that im gonna put a big doubt on

[misty shuttle]

yeh that's why I've been getting triggered :p

[tropic schooner]

well or your data is just wrong

humans are not particularly known to keep those accurate

and there would be a gigantic difference of a 10 game losing spree to 30

[misty shuttle]

true enough

[tropic schooner]

also it ofc assumes you wouldnt be detrimental to your teams chance to winning, which is possible (but unlikely to swing it enough in an epic bg)

in something like shuffle or blitz obv a lot more possible

[misty shuttle]

it's been a bad time

[tropic schooner]

just talk to zechey

I confused those 2 for a second

but if you talk to zechey you will see your day wasnt that bad

[misty shuttle]

well I've earned about 10k honor

and I've been getting about 300-600 per epic BG

so fairly sure I'm above 20 games now

[tropic schooner]

you could check the stats

[misty shuttle]

how?

[tropic schooner]

achievement tab

there is stats on the right

and you can check your overall bg winrate

/specific bg winrate

[onyx delta]

Any thoughts on corruption pvp for feral?

gushing?

[tropic schooner]

but it wouldnt be just this expansion

[misty shuttle]

yeh, 515 games, 205 won

[tropic schooner]

that many epic bgs?

[clear pulsar]

They're all <1% gains cuz it's all nerfed by 50% in pvp already

[onyx delta]

so either stats or gushing most likely for the minor increase

[stray sigil]

stats is pretty dogshit

its gushing or twilight dev

[raw notch]

Oh so I don’t have to grind the enchant

Yay

30 min shuffle queues for someone to hit "not ready" is some shit

[random patrol]

just go void ritual bout it really

[raw notch]

lol nah imma sit here afk and pout

[stray sigil]

go twilight dev or gushing

ritual is not it

[random patrol]

@stray sigil Im just going to wait and copy what murloc io does prob

[stray sigil]

ritual is like 600 stats

but u dont get to use th max stack at all rly

so idk

think twilight dev is better for the same reason lens> ascension

[random patrol]

wowhead says don't use npc

so I use her anyway

[stray sigil]

i used her and cleared it wiuth a mask idk

[wanton ridge]

theres a guy in dornogal btw!

he's right by the pvp target dummies

[late wraith]

Oh shiiiid

[wintry jackal]

Imagine playing a game for fun

[viscid remnant]

You guys enjoy wow?

[rich crag]

Just running void ritual as feral ? I guess it's not a big deal either way.

[stray sigil]

dont

its nerfed by 75% that one

[late wraith]

do any of you nerds know why details often breaks out into a new encounter randomly while i'm hitting dummies? i'm not dropping combat or anything but my damage from one session hitting them does not all list in one thing even if set to overall. it'll just constantly reset itself and start a new line so i have to look through like 10 lines of encounters in details to figure out my overall

[clear pulsar]

I only see that happening if you're not hitting actively but have dots rolling

[late wraith]

i am though

i am actively casting on them

[clear pulsar]

Yeah idk never seen it personally

[late wraith]

it might be my stupid denizens

they will randomly decide it's time to hit kelpfist

[clear pulsar]

OOOOH yeah

Tagging the tank dummy makes sense

I love it when my guardian tier set randomly hits a pvp dummy and I get scaled shit

[stray sigil]

pigs

[late wraith]

it's super annoying because up on the pillars above that zone are isolated target dummies. no pvp ones lol

[tiny oar]

pvpers stay losing

[random patrol]

I enjoy wow quite a bit

got hunter and aug thingy to 80 the other day

more druids soon though

[fresh kraken]

anyone know anything about the big wrath boomkin build?

[random patrol]

it's a meme build not really worth it unless your already super good prob still be nerfed which is fine

you stack blooming blooming infusion with umbral embrace into incarn to try to do big damage

around 3-4 mill wrath

https://murlok.io/character/eu/tarren-mill/corkiri/pvp is running a version of it

you can tech run groves inspiration if you really want to go all in on it with some mastery pieces

off topic from that but gushing wound void ritual for pvp imo after testing but that's just me either works it's like a tiny piece of your damage

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/garfield-shrink-gif-21264124

[tiny oar]

I'm starting my hpriest arc

1 conq box 1 weapon it's a sign that it's meant to be

[random patrol]

go guardian druid

fullfill your destiny

[tiny oar]

ur OBSESSION WITH MY GUARDIAN ARC STOPS HERE OLD MAN

IF I PLAY BEAR EVER AGAIN IT WILL BE IN KEYS OR RAID ONLY TYVM

[random patrol]

@tiny oar ur OBSSESION with the truth of Garfield starts here young lady

yw

[tiny oar]

WHAAAAAT

[random patrol]

yep

that's a image from garfield and friends

also this

@tiny oar this one is just for you though

[grand mesa]

based

[random patrol]

@tiny oar this random comic generator though

[hexed grove]

Yo, anyone else get to mid 1700 , then just get placed on crap teams and drop back to 1600s? I don’t think I’ll hit 1800 with Druid this season

[tardy hare]

No, when I reach mid 1700 i just kill the enemies and rise to 1800 where i do the same

[tropic schooner]

Winning and losing is part of the game, especially if you are peaking in a season very likely you don't maintain it and drop a bit down again

[brisk carbon]

I always felt like rage quitting when playing my hunter, just keep playing and pushing lol you'll make it

[raw notch]

Solos pmo too, y’all aren’t alone

But even tho it’s maddening I keep going again

[wanton ridge]

Dr. Boosters hate this secret trick

[tidal widget]

Gushing Wound or Void Ritual for Feral in PvP?

[tidal widget]

what

[fringe mulch]

how often in PVP are you guys sitting a base in bg blitz

as feral or balance

[tardy hare]

depends how good my team is and what the situation is

if its necessary you def

if you can get away to win the game for your team you go away

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[livid wasp]

I am never sitting a base, im running in between

if I get told to def stables/farm I just make sure im there to cap it and help mines otherwise

like spare 30 sec to help mines

[weak moon]

How much should I care about making sure my bleeds are fully snapshotted when I’m trying to re-dot in between go’s? I’ve been putting up rakes and rips without tf if I don’t have it in between damage windows. Is that bad? I figured any damage is better than no damage.

[stray sigil]

ritual is nerfed by 75

just play gushing or anything else

[tidal widget]

why

!!!!

that's so dumb

[stray sigil]

i mean its all dogshit anyways

all sub 2% gain

but ritual is just worse cuz its the most nerfed

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

[clear pulsar]

Where did you get 75% nerfed?

[stray sigil]

it was on wowhead

now idk why that one is 75

anmd the rest is 50

but it is what it is

[clear pulsar]

Wowhead says it's 50%

[stray sigil]

tooltip is wriong

just like it says its like 170 stats on the greater

[clear pulsar]

Void ritual also doesnt need stacking like Ascension

[stray sigil]

and like 81 or something

[clear pulsar]

You were saying earlier

[stray sigil]

it does stack lol

[clear pulsar]

Or the other day

[stray sigil]

and chances u get to 20 stacks and press an ability in pve

[clear pulsar]

It builds up over its own proc

[stray sigil]

pvp

is like super slim

[clear pulsar]

It's not like ascension where dropping combat loses you value

Or you need 4 mins for it to build up

[stray sigil]

u likely wont get any vlaue out of it

u get to 300 stats for like 1s

less than 2 gems worth of stats

go off on it ig

[clear pulsar]

Idc how good or bad it is

Just that you're wrong

[stray sigil]

how

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

lol

what did i say was wrong

it does stack

to 20

[clear pulsar]

That it's 75% nerfed on wowhead and that it needs stacking up like ascension

[stray sigil]

it is 75% nerfed lmfao

trust wowhead ig

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=1227315/void-ritual

says its not nerfed at all

(it is i tested it)

and the amount of stats is wrong on wowhead too lol

[clear pulsar]

It is 75% nerfed

But it says 50% on wowhead

[stray sigil]

apologize

[clear pulsar]

BITCH YOURE THE ONE THAT SAID WOWHEAD

[stray sigil]

im pretty sure i saw

[clear pulsar]

????

[stray sigil]

a wowhead post

[clear pulsar]

Are you daft

[stray sigil]

that said it was further nerfed

was my point

not the spell id tooltip

[clear pulsar]

You didnt even link the right buff, that one is just the trigger

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=1227316/the-end-is-coming
This is the buff

[stray sigil]

cuz none of them are right

still says 82

its 71 first of all

[clear pulsar]

Ofc it's completely tiny

[stray sigil]

like everything is wrong on those

[clear pulsar]

I love it when you're wrong

I've been loving life for years, you see

[stray sigil]

i just proved u

that i was right

and u agreed

less than 1minute ago

[clear pulsar]

Wrong

Bless up

[random patrol]

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[random patrol]

rip combat tracking addons

but

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar

[clear pulsar]

I was gonna ask you to 2v2

But now you ruined it

[stray sigil]

no u werent

dumb fuck

dont play with my emotions like that

[stray sigil]

dumb fuck

[grand mesa]

Man

Face is wrong about numbers

I never thought I’d see the day

And by Fuji’s hand no less

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar

he logged off in shame on bnet

[clear pulsar]

Wrong

Fuji was wrong he said wowhead put it at 75% nerf

I saw literally today that it was 50% nerf in wowhead

And it is

Bless up

[clear pulsar]

It's back to bg3 roguelike gaming

[stray sigil]

go hide in bg

shame

[clear pulsar]

I faced lvl 27 mephistopheles and got completely destroyed

[stray sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-bell-game-of-thrones-walk-of-atonement-cersei-lannister-gif-16635977892557113898

[grand mesa]

Face what ur thoughts on the addon kerfluffle

[clear pulsar]

It sounds very poggers

[stray sigil]

theres no way u say that

with ur astronaut ui

[clear pulsar]

I have no fucking idea what kerfluffle is

[stray sigil]

just go with the flow

its a old ppl saying

[clear pulsar]

But what is puzzle asking then

[stray sigil]

tthe whole drama

what do u think about it

[clear pulsar]

I still dont know wtf you're asking

What is the drama?

[maiden viper]

if I were to guess, I assume they mean blizzards decision to not allow addons to track party/enemy CDs

[stray sigil]

that u pig

[clear pulsar]

Idk thats the first I'm hearing of it

[stray sigil]

[maiden viper]

they talked about it today, that they're going to disallow addons tracking that sort of thing (if I understood it correctly, disabling any active combat events from being tracked by addons)

[tropic schooner]

its also not really fully clear what exactly will happen

[maiden viper]

but it's kind of vague still

[stray sigil]

casters will cry way too much

[viscid remnant]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/720763953449271308/1092060148064849960/Gif.gif

[stray sigil]

ull be able to track kicks

[stray sigil]

real

caster cosplay right there

MY PRECOCK

LESS VALUE

NOONOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

get fucked

pigs

[clear pulsar]

I think the buff tracker they put in has been a huge negative so if they end up removing addon functionality in some way, hopefully that takes a long time and they do something competent for once

[maiden viper]

w0rd

[stray sigil]

wrong

fuck casters

[viscid remnant]

My fingers are black from hard labor

[clear pulsar]

Reading over the pcgamer article

Idk about the addons thing

But they got this paragraph about encounter design that makes me think shit is just gonna be lame as shit

Can you imagine if Bethesda came out after 14 years of Skyrim and just force deleted half of the mods functionalities?

[viscid remnant]

No

[clear pulsar]

I have a hard time seeing that type of philosophy attracting more players

I have an easier time seeing it drive some players away

[tropic schooner]

think depends how encounter design ends up being

and what the inbuild functions are/how well they work

[raw notch]

I like their growth mindset, and they haven't been too heavy handed where they are unwilling to change something that is outright bad

i've now reached the - im getting zero rating from these shuffles moment

[grand mesa]

Gimme back my addons

[stray sigil]

[livid wasp]

im so pissed

3 first rounds with some evoker

who apparently needs some warming up or some shit

cause he absolutely throws first 3 and we barely clutch the third one

then he knows how to play the rest 3

[velvet quest]

Glad to see you’re having an above average day zechey keep that mental up

[raw notch]

I keep trying to click my defensive, and dying in the .1 second it takes to press the button

I just cant make myself remember the keybind :ccccc

[velvet quest]

If you pressed your defensive .1 seconds earlier you would still die unless it’s bubble or block or something

[raw notch]

yea its bubble

tbf my healer was not in any cc

[tropic schooner]

2-4 sounds great

[tropic schooner]

dont ever click

just die while looking for that keybind

YOU ARE NOT CLICKING YOUR MAJOR DEFENSIVE

[clear pulsar]

Trauma does teach best

It's true

[raw notch]

okay

[tropic schooner]

there are some stuff its less horrible to click

like mounts

[raw notch]

i lost rating that round so im sad enough

[tropic schooner]

or some rare buttons

but clicking your major defensive, especially if your UI isnt optimized for that

is really really bad

[raw notch]

i think my stuff is easily reachable here, but I think im just too slow at clicking

[tropic schooner]

rebind bubble

pronto

swap it with wake or sth

(or what ever you want)

but really for sth like bubble dont use shift modifier

[raw notch]

my shield button is = (the mouse button) and i hit that one insanely well - cuz i use sac on it

so the bubble is shift version of that

i SHOULD kno to hit it

[tropic schooner]

swap those

maybe

put bubble in a faster to reach spot

please tell me you arent moving with wasd

[raw notch]

yea. i ams

[tropic schooner]

oh god

I know people say hotkeys are personal

which is true

[raw notch]

but i have played the pve version of this character since dragonflight

[tropic schooner]

but these might be the most cursed keybinds I have ever seen

[raw notch]

it is just engrained now into my soul

[raw notch]

nooooooooo

[tropic schooner]

you have shift w, shift a shift d bound

your major defensive is also on shift

[raw notch]

(z is a little fucked)

[tropic schooner]

no that one

is BY FAR the most sane one

[raw notch]

lool

[tropic schooner]

(I assume z is the button left of x?)

[raw notch]

mmhm

[tropic schooner]

thats totally fine

I find it weird that I think v isnt bound

[raw notch]

tru...

[tropic schooner]

and modifiers on q?

[tiny oar]

bind v

vlfoe vroooom

[raw notch]

i dont kno how comfy i am hitting v

[tropic schooner]

hell is 2 even bound?

[clear pulsar]

Why can I not find an E bind?

[tiny oar]

v g v c c v v v v vroom

[tropic schooner]

I see 1 I see 3

[raw notch]

12345678910 those are my mouse side buttons

(= is 10)

[tropic schooner]

why is 1234 your mouse side buttons?

[tiny oar]

I dont bind v either dw val

[tropic schooner]

why not rebind that to like oplk

[clear pulsar]

This is so interesting

[raw notch]

thats how its mapped idk..

[tropic schooner]

and use those

[raw notch]

i cant reach 1234 keyboard anyway

[tropic schooner]

yes but I imagine you can press 1 without any issue?

[tropic schooner]

how

[raw notch]

bad hand posture ig

[tiny oar]

I am confuzzlwd

[clear pulsar]

This is all for sure cooking your chances

[raw notch]

xD

no its fine

i play really well ok..

[tropic schooner]

no it really isnt

[late wraith]

she's using mouse binds and it's all been rebound

[tropic schooner]

this legit is one of the biggest ways you can improve

[late wraith]

so she's not hitting these on keyboard

[tropic schooner]

you must have missed half of the discussion

[late wraith]

like mine also look demented but it's because i've mapped everything to a keybind pad thing

she just said these are on her mouse 1-10?

[tropic schooner]

its more of whats not bound

compared to what is bound

[tiny oar]

I cant reach v pwrsonally

[raw notch]

... no way

[tropic schooner]

yea something like the 7/shift 7 button is on mouse, that makes perfect sense

[late wraith]

yeah so i use a tartarus because it hurts me hands

and my binds are deranged

[tiny oar]

I got tiny fingers c:

[late wraith]

but it's irrelevant because it's just remapping it all to my keypad so it can be whatever i want

[clear pulsar]

But 2 and 3 are still not being used

[late wraith]

i have like alt shift f10 for one of them

[tropic schooner]

but binding your 1 and 2 button to mouse gets weirder, having something like shift e bound while e not is not helping

[raw notch]

2 and 3 are awkward, but 2 is bound

[clear pulsar]

If 1 thru 0 are on the keybind, only like 3 or 4 of those numbers are being used

[tropic schooner]

having shift w/a/d bound when moving with wasd does get bad

[raw notch]

(on my druid)

[tropic schooner]

so get those on your pala too!

and remap the mousebuttons you use to some other key

[raw notch]

its only used for the stuff that isnt super important cuz its awkward to press

[tropic schooner]

so do that

[clear pulsar]

Bubble is super important

You should bind that to something that isnt too awkward to press

[tropic schooner]

^

[raw notch]

i got bubble on a rly comfy bind, my brain mapping just isnt there yet

bop has zero love tho

[clear pulsar]

@late wraith the only reason this is all being talked about is she's dying cuz she's clicking every defensive and it's too slow

[late wraith]

oh lol

[raw notch]

queue pop so time to go press bind

[clear pulsar]

We just want to help

[raw notch]

killself

[late wraith]

i misread i thought she had everything remapped to her mouse

and now i see her other pally defensive isn't bound

[tropic schooner]

if it really is that easy for you fair enough but having your major defensive on a modifier button while still having the ability to swap that fairly easily seems like a mistake

[clear pulsar]

Technically clicking is...

[tiny oar]

GO FIGHT WIN KILL THE ENEMY

[late wraith]

technically

[tropic schooner]

how I understood it was the buttons which show up as 1-0 on the UI are mapped to the mouse

so something like FoL is on mouse or Blade of Wrath (or what ever its called)

but Word of glory or judgement would not be mouse

[tiny oar]

my barkskin is shift d bro its chill

[raw notch]

only bubble and bop :c

[tropic schooner]

(out of interest where is the sac hotkey on english keyboards?)

[tropic schooner]

do you move with wasd too? but for barkskin its imo less bad

then for bubble

my barkskin is also in a bit bad spot

[tiny oar]

no

qe

[tropic schooner]

yea thats a major

difference

[tiny oar]

I also have shift qwer bound

it is all to things w a cooldown or cast time

[tropic schooner]

so like

your kick

[tiny oar]

oh that

[tropic schooner]

but yea while for me that would be awkward

thats acceptable

[tiny oar]

needs some word

[clear pulsar]

Shield of Vengeance, Stoneform, to a lesser degree Healthstone.

[late wraith]

you should all see what shit is mapped to on my laptop cause it's a mac and i had to get super creative with some addon

[tropic schooner]

think it gets even worse that the main defensive is on a shift hotkey too so as a melee you panic and maybe press shift too early

but strafe right

you could judge

and die in that gcd cause you cant bubble

[tiny oar]

this seems like cope idk

[tropic schooner]

tbh I dont have that bound but to me it does not feel that unlikely to happen

[tiny oar]

like sure some things are common sense to be v easy to press like basic rotation shit but no way I am not using a modifier for an ability eith a 3 minute cd

[late wraith]

my barkskin is shift s it works fine

[clear pulsar]

Ok but are you risking using medallion instead of moving left cuz you let go of shift 0.2s too late?

[late wraith]

no

i'm risking using typhoon

which gets them off me, ez.

[tropic schooner]

yea but we arent talking about those hotkeys

I think shift s for barkskin is not unreasonable if its something comfotable to press

[clear pulsar]

I have no idea how yall play like that

Shift + movement keys bound

[tiny oar]

what is this risk shit ur talking about like

[tropic schooner]

shift w for it when moving with wasd I would find a lot worse

[clear pulsar]

Insane behavior

[tiny oar]

how often do u fat finger shit bro its crazy

[clear pulsar]

I dont because I dont bind anything t o shift + W

Blessed

[tropic schooner]

^

[late wraith]

oh well s isn't movement though yeah? i don't like having shift other movement keys bound either. shift w is unbound

[tropic schooner]

maybe I overestimate that

[tiny oar]

my shift w is entangling roots

[tropic schooner]

yes but thats not the context we are talking about?