pvp

[tropic schooner]

Depends what you wanna play it's solo q so not like it matters you compete with your spec anyway

[verbal quarry]

you do?

do you get glad title in solo Q?

[livid wasp]

no you get the legend title

which is cooler

[forest kite]

lol

[minor tartan]

what class should i pve as guys

[livid wasp]

boomy

[tulip falcon]

did they change r1 titles for all brackets so that they are only 1 per account for each spec/bracket? only finding conflicting info

so someone cant take all the titles on their alts

which i remember people used to do

[forest kite]

bm hunter lul

[minor tartan]

lmao

[minor tartan]

low cr high xp

[stray sigil]

alts arent counted in spots anymore

so if u have 15 alts but theres 8 spots

itll only count 1

[tulip falcon]

Ok cool

I swear it used to count alts so glad they changed that

[late wraith]

Genuinely shocking if it’s not vdh

[minor tartan]

thinking of doing mage

i used to main dh in legion and bfa

[stray sigil]

i mained dh in wod it was pretty sick

[minor tartan]

DH in legion was sick

rbg flag carries

infinite eyebeams in m+

[stray sigil]

if u liked it in legion u shoulda seen it in wod

was completely diff beast

[wintry jackal]

[stray sigil]

[wintry jackal]

Druid is the only right answer any of the time

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

Not sure what to play? Make a new Druid!

[stray sigil]

just dont make it aboomy

or a rdru

or a guardian

[late wraith]

Guardian will carry you through keys show some respect

boomy could also hard carry your ass in keys little worm

[wintry jackal]

I should level a 4th Druid

I love all the specs

[stray sigil]

guardian will also meld on my xuens

[late wraith]

I did that again yesterday lol

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

Killed my warrior

[stray sigil]

so i should expect

to die

tank diff

[late wraith]

Recovered fast enough and no harm done 🥰

Still an easy 2 chest

[stray sigil]

tell that to my fuckign cat

ask him about recovery

[late wraith]

Omg Fuji so i have a pi macro that just gives pi to a random friendly. Pets are supposed to be immune but it gives it to xuen

[stray sigil]

did u do that in our 2s

[late wraith]

It tries to give it to totems and hunter pets but doesn’t go on cd so it doesn’t work

[stray sigil]

yesterday

dont lie to me

[late wraith]

But when it goes on xuen it goes on cd

No I don’t use the macro in 2s

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

I just gave you pi when I wanted it lol

[stray sigil]

[wintry jackal]

beavs carried me in 3s on fri

[stray sigil]

i carried beavs to 1800

let it be known

[late wraith]

I felt so bad that I had the bad censure talent on folten

That was from 2s with mayo rogue lol

I was inting your damage so bad

[wintry jackal]

lol seriously no worries

[late wraith]

Fuji would have torn me apart over that lol

[wintry jackal]

i was just happy to run some matches it was fun

[late wraith]

It was we can do some more whenever. I gotta learn more about priest tho tbh I don’t play it enough

We can make mayo heal boomy feral

God comp

[wintry jackal]

would he resto? the clones would be endless

[late wraith]

we have done that with lake

[wintry jackal]

is hpal viable w boomie

or rsham

i'll level a healer too

[late wraith]

Both yeah

Best are rsham and pres for our comp

[random patrol]

leveling 7th and 8th druid soon

[wintry jackal]

Ill level my sham and practice for alt qs for u guys

[late wraith]

Sicccck

[stray sigil]

i didnt even tore u apart yday

when i saw 0 renew in ur healing breakdown

PIG GRANDMA

[wintry jackal]

[stray sigil]

yup beavs was trolling me

and i still didnt flame

i am a changed man

what can i say

[velvet quest]

Beavs taught me everything I know about hpriest should I be pressing renew

[stray sigil]

ofc not

10% more healing on target is

not good

[velvet quest]

I was asking her not you

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

You don’t cast renew it procs off Pom

i'm also lookig at it right now it's in every single breakdown what are you on about

it's not on the second hook point game

[late wraith]

i barely had to heal that game

[stray sigil]

ye but i think now u play big renew

big renew doesnt proc off pom

u have to cast it and then pom refreshes it

[stray sigil]

dont try to fuck with my narrative

[late wraith]

oh empowered renew yeah maybe i haven't changed my talents since last season

[stray sigil]

PIG

they changed a lot about the holy tree btw

[late wraith]

last week right? i haven't played holy all season give me a break lol

[stray sigil]

nop no break

u already go to bed at 6pm

thats enough of a break

[stray sigil]

this week i think

[late wraith]

you are right though they do all play it oh well i'll just play it next time

[stray sigil]

or iddfk

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

yeah wheneer they got the buff

[stray sigil]

i am always right

always right

never forget

[late wraith]

this sucks i can't believe they're going to make us press renew. what a shithole button

i need a new alt now this one's busted

[stray sigil]

PIG

U PRESS IT ONCE

[late wraith]

don't wanna

[stray sigil]

AND EVERYTHING RESETS IT

[late wraith]

yuck yucky yuck

[stray sigil]

ur too used to pressing 2 buttons on boomy

[late wraith]

who even plays holy i can look at just zenlyn still?

[stray sigil]

[stray sigil]

everyone plays holy rn

prob meh or zen safest ye

[late wraith]

okay who plays holy who would have put the effort in

[stray sigil]

https://check-pvp.fr/eu/Tarren Mill/Obeng

r3 on ladder

good enough effort for you

[late wraith]

yes ty

effort into like... figuring out talents not just running random shit is what i meant you know what i meant you dumb clown

[late wraith]

oh he's playing lightwell too

they're going for huge renew healing this is kinda neat

i've changed my mind i don't hate this build it's all just pom- renew this is blessed. @velvet quest we gotta 2s today

[stray sigil]

U JUST SAID RENEW BAD

NOW HUGE RENEW NEAT

[velvet quest]

did we revert the 6 minute oom auto lose condition?

[stray sigil]

u dont oom

[late wraith]

yeah i think so i dunno lets try it

[late wraith]

in my defense

renew has been bad

[grand mesa]

It’s true

Renew has been a meme forever

[late wraith]

it got good this week

[grand mesa]

everytime they buff it the question in WCP was do we press renew? Nope

still don’t press it

[tropic schooner]

that really shouldnt be possible

[late wraith]

next thing he's going to tell me they're all running prayer of healing for real and i'm going to stop playing priest forever lol

[late wraith]

i know but the thing is

[grand mesa]

you’re safe there

[late wraith]

it does it

[tropic schooner]

outside maybe range issues?

whats the macro you use?

(why even have a macro in the first place if thats your goal)

[late wraith]

#showtooltip
/targetfriend
/yell "PI goes to %T"
/cast Power Infusion
/targetlasttarge
because it's funny

[tropic schooner]

was it in pvp or some pve? do you have logs?

[grand mesa]

POH still not a real button

[tropic schooner]

by default its already random if you selfcast

was a change last patch

[late wraith]

prayer of healing gotta be a bottom 10 button

[tropic schooner]

(semi random)

it prios dps and prios dps in cooldowns

[late wraith]

yeah i know but we like it to go on the tank for shits

[grand mesa]

For some reason I think that’s just shadow

when I PI myself it behaves that way

[tropic schooner]

do you have logs

[late wraith]

if you mean me no

[grand mesa]

When I do it as healer I just see PI on me

[tropic schooner]

like legit it SHOULD work that way, there absolutely could be bugs and if there are some I can send them to ppl

[late wraith]

but mayo is in the group with me, it says xuen got pi and the thing goes on cd lol

but when it says totem got pi or hunter pet got pi it does not go on cd

[tropic schooner]

im calling a lot more likely to have buggy frames

[grand mesa]

I’ll keep an eye out to keep a log next time

[late wraith]

i can just spam it indefinitely

which is also funny cause it keeps trying to put it on the totem

[tropic schooner]

well yea

you cant pi them

[late wraith]

right

but xuen it does it

xuen is the only pet it does this for

[grand mesa]

idk if it’s a separate spellid or something not being tracked

[tropic schooner]

im like 99.9% sure

thats not happening

[grand mesa]

on my frames

[tropic schooner]

the pet thing was changed like start of DF iirc

when you literally cant PI pets

at all

[late wraith]

yep i get that

and what i'm saying is

it puts pi on cd

when it targets xuen

but no other pet or totem

it might not be applying to xuen

[tropic schooner]

I could believe it selfcasts and in pvp your partner isnt in range

[late wraith]

but it's putting the spell on cd and claiming it's on xuen

it's not pvp

[tropic schooner]

so you only get one I acn see that happening

[late wraith]

it's pve

[tropic schooner]

ah

[grand mesa]

Same my experience was in keys

I manual target Fuji for his PI in pvp

[tropic schooner]

like there absolutely are some PI bugs

there is a tripple pi bug somehow

I also know som weakauras track PI wrong

[late wraith]

yeah i do manual targeting for pvp pi too we don't fuck around with pi in pvp

but we do fuck around in pve

and award it to hero of the pull

[grand mesa]

[late wraith]

puzzle

[grand mesa]

When I shadow I just PI myself and ifs 50-50 which dps gets it

I tell them good luck

[late wraith]

we started doing hero of the pull where whoever does something cool or notable is deemed hero of the pull. this can be good things or mischief things. it's great. 10/10

[grand mesa]

Lmao

[late wraith]

someone not in the key watches it and judges hero of the pull

[tropic schooner]

still feel like its likely not actually giving PI away, but also prolly no one else uses a cursed macro like that so its not completly impossible that its weird a f

[stray sigil]

my xuens gonna get pu

pi

[late wraith]

yeah well they're not gaming if there's not a real chance that their pi goes on xuen or the tank

[tropic schooner]

I remember accidentally PIing xuen in castle nathria

that tiger pumped

[wanton ridge]

I got PI as bear yesterday in a priory and reached close to 10m dps on some pulls with it we're not a joke!

[barren loom]

Does anyone know if crescent burn is applied to the moonfires treants cast?

[harsh ore]

Good question. Theoretically it should but maybe @clear pulsar knows for sure

Treant moonfires are theoretically supposed to be exact replicas of normal moonfires afaik

[minor tartan]

bfa was 13 years ago now

let that sink in

[harsh ore]

Are you thinking of WOD or are you trolling / memeing?

Bfa was 2018

[minor tartan]

lol

[harsh ore]

[tropic schooner]

hes worse then you are

at playing the idiot

[wintry jackal]

[harsh ore]

Oh-

That’s a very low bar too

[wintry jackal]

Enten I’ve been Qing spriest feral it’s been such a good time

I’m tired of jungle

[tropic schooner]

nono id say you are fairly good at playing the idiot

he tries the same

is just terrible at it

[harsh ore]

LOL

[tropic schooner]

im playing shadowplay in cataclysm

as the warlock

[tiny oar]

[digital fable]

Mm

[neon rock]

Hi, can someone explain how does Cdew instant cast Ancient Lore? https://www.youtube.com/live/dvO90aQh4L8?feature=shared&t=2020

Ah nvm nature swiftness right?

[open spoke]

yes

[digital fable]

Ngl druid feels a lot worse this season than last

1800 last season took 18 games, already past that and struggling to keep people alive in 1500 bracket 💀

[chrome panther]

besides losing tranq immune it absolutely heals far better

[neon crater]

anyone actually use tank spec in BG's for FC or holding points? or is it unnecessary? i see discipline priests basically run around unkillable

[stiff smelt]

Is druid of the claw bad for feral? I prefer playing bite builds and understand that wild stalker is the meta atm. Does that make claw bad or just slightly undertuned?

[wintry jackal]

dotc is a meme

For PvP

It’s really only visible this season in m+ I think

I haven’t raided yet this season but if I remember correctly most fights are wildstalker too cus of tier

[stiff smelt]

Damn ok that’s good to know at least

I just got back into WoW and was sad seeing no more big bites haha

Ty

[wintry jackal]

Oh don’t worry

We still pump big bites in PvP

With apex predator procs

[maiden viper]

are druids doing something different? thinking of gearing mine for season 2

other healers aren't noticeably higher in CR than other healers at glance

but a lot of ppl saying rdruid is weak

[wintry jackal]

I think it can hold its own with 4 set but idrk

[chrome panther]

theres 600 disc/holy priests above 2200 cr in shuffle, theres 76 rdruids.

[maiden viper]

yeah I suspect I was looking at the wrong stats

[chrome panther]

part of it is just perception

rdruid was turboshit s1 and disc was (and still is) op as shit

[maiden viper]

right

and if rdruids aren't obviously op, that perception is going to linger

[grand mesa]

Pvpers are getting 4 set this reset

A lot of what makes rdruid arguably best healer is the 4pc bonus

So I think you’ll see a lot more rdru soon

[maiden viper]

so it's 30% chance to proc insurance on bloom, and when insurance is consumed it adds a missing hot

realistically, it's going to add wild growth

so 4pc is essentially like, chance on bloom to leave a wild growth after bloom

[grand mesa]

15%

There is a pvp coefficient on the proc chance

Yeah it’s going to add a 15s WG. Which goes brrrrr with wild stalker

[maiden viper]

wildstalker you say

is that going to be the play with 4 set?

I'd love a break from the emphasis on treants

[grand mesa]

Seems that way yes

symbiotic blooms has 3 independent proc chances that build Bad luck protection. Every regrowth tick, efflo tick, and WG tick that doesn’t proc a bloom will have increased chance next tick. So normal rdru gameplay last expac or so you’d only realistically have regrowth on people. 1 out of the 3 sources. Efflo is conditional on staying on it and WG/early spring too mana intensive.

So I think 15s WGs proccing for free from the tier set just juice your symbloom uptime and stacks on the team. Looking at like Nogard and flop seems like wild stalker is the play.

Not to mention the tier itself is just big for rdru

[maiden viper]

I'm here for it

that new tree form having a cast time seems very clunky though. like I get that you can NS it but still

do you need to bind the new abilities or do they replace something else

[chrome panther]

uhh regular blooming will replace tol while active

mass blooming idk

[maiden viper]

ew I don't have that on a very spammable button

and I don't really have available binds

rip

oh dang yeah most druids are indeed wildstalker

hallelujah

[clear fox]

I play keeper now idk

Both go

[maiden viper]

I have to bind skull bash too, christ almighty

@chrome panther where we at on symb relationship for shuffle

[chrome panther]

im not the one to ask

i play fury warrior

[maiden viper]

zug zug

AND I have to bind starsurgeeeeeeeee

logging disc

[clear pulsar]

Nobody's arguing this

[grand mesa]

Asks some Druids they’d say they’re behind holy priest

[stray sigil]

mog check

wheres my lidle gnome at

[clear pulsar]

It's still march

[stray sigil]

are u ready though

[minor tartan]

lmfaoo !

this guy wiped my key 3 times and dropped group

[grand mesa]

lmao

[wintry jackal]

Dreamgrove website is so kawaii

[vast rivet]

yo guys how is minpokje reju so high when mine is low af ???

[clear pulsar]

That uptime % column is only on yourself, so it's fake

[vast rivet]

I didnt look to that column I meant that my uptime on my rejuvenation is good overall and it's still meh when his is number 1 healing source, so Im asking what Im missing here ^^

this is my details after round of 3 min in low rating so Im kinda chill to say that this rotation was kinda good for me, like I was not too pressured haha

Im automatically extending my CW with SM when I can into a SotF Reju

Maybe that's not the way to go nowadays Idk

[livid wasp]

what is the WW thing that makes them immune to cyclone

[tulip falcon]

conduit?

they have a pvp talent which gives them cc immunity during it

[livid wasp]

whats the pvp talent?

annoying how wowhead doesnt show it under modifiers

I figuees it was celestial conduit but thought maybe its something else since theres nothing about it there

[tulip falcon]

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Absolute_Serenity

[minor tartan]

some idiot wiped my key 3 times and left

[wintry jackal]

Gotta q up that cyclone for the moment they come out it

Their burst is real strong

[clear pulsar]

@stray sigil

[grand mesa]

Let’s see it shawty

Show mog

[clear pulsar]

It's hideous I'm not wearing that shit

I bought it for the culture

[late wraith]

Respectable

[lime light]

https://tenor.com/view/gacchi-poe-poe2-computer-pc-gif-16453754138777739800

[stray sigil]

IT WAS MADE FOR YOU

[random patrol]

[wintry jackal]

[maiden viper]

I'm probably doing something wrong, but rdruid feels horrible to play

[wanton ridge]

just played against prot pal + aug in 2s

what the fuck is wrong with people

[vestal citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/360572438691708941/1281296727789408256/RestoRat.gif

[random patrol]

good old naked mole rats

one of only a few eusocial mammals

[vestal citrus]

eusocial

whats that mean

they like snus and racism?

[random patrol]

their like ants

they have workers for instance

[tiny oar]

[stray sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/360572438691708941/1281296727789408256/RestoRat.gif

[tiny oar]

oh cool a new ping wonder who its--
oh nvm its just fucking fuji

[random patrol]

conquest capped now afk until next week again

[vestal citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/opium-birds-birds-luh-calm-fit-2027-gif-18113046462503136682

[wintry jackal]

Why he look kinda chill tho

[tiny oar]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-rumble-seaking-facade-gif-21281452

[random patrol]

@tiny oar the return of the turducken arc

[random patrol]

only playing one alt for now not worth to do all 8 until conquest unlocks

[tiny oar]

8???_

what the hellllllll

[random patrol]

yep I'm a balance druid main what did you think I was but not insane

[vivid hemlock]

Did they nerfed airdrops farm? On my server they all spawn at same moment.

[random patrol]

that happens sometimes especially with diff shards

was doing airdrops earlier last night and it was fine

shit also get wierd if people in your raid enter instances so yeah wm crate groups are odd sometimes

tldr depends on shard

[vast rivet]

yo does anyone have answer about this ??

[open spoke]

Probably because of 4 set with wildstalker hero talent and swiftmend into sotf rejuv

[clear pulsar]

Your Rejuvs both did the same % of your total healing, only Germ was different, so sounds reasonably like an uptime diff there. The difference is your Lifebloom is grouped together and his isn't, so being split it looks lower on the meter.

[open spoke]

Oh yea youre right. Lifebloom and lifebloom (bloom)

[fallow monolith]

how is boomy feeling after the patch for you guys? 4-set doesn'

t have any visual or buff icon

just had an arcane,arms,ww,disc,rdruid lobby and went 5-1

playing treant build

[late wraith]

you can see in auras in details how often you have insurance

pre 4pc was piss, post 4 pc feels great

[high tundra]

do mistweavers get to use their incapacitate from range ?

[stray sigil]

yes its ranged

[minor tartan]

do u guys know my big cousin wil feral?

[random patrol]

I think I just put tier on wpvp piece for alt save conquest for other parts

weeeeeeeee

[wintry jackal]

Meeting was supposed to start 10 minutes ago came home early from gym to sit and stare at a teams screen

[late wraith]

Play wow. Just look meaningfully at one spot of your screen every now and again and nod

Like yeah totally

And then dart your eyes like you just got an important slack message you’re reading right away.

[livid wasp]

I sometimes feel like im the only one online without an office job

[tulip falcon]

i literally only started playing again because i got a remote job where i havent had any work given to me in 2 months

i would not spend limited free time on this

[hushed hollow]

guys, how is resto in pvp?

[clear pulsar]

I think you'll get better answers to your questions from someone playing rn like @clear fox

[wintry jackal]

Beavs with the tech

[hushed hollow]

thanks 🙂

[clear pulsar]

When you say lack of tree form

You mean just the stance small treant right?

We still have and always play Incarn tree form in pvp

And now there's a pvp talent that makes it an Ancient tree

But in general resto druid isnt as tanky against being trained like a disc priest maybe, but you get away and CC people and you should be hard to kill

[maiden viper]

ok rdruids, I'm clearly doing something wrong this season. I usually hit 2400 in shuffle on healers but struggling a lot with rdruid this season

is there some subtle playstyle change or general strategy that I'm carrying with me that no longer is optimal or something like that

[clear pulsar]

I couldnt tell you bestie I refuse to pvp until resto is s++++ tier again

Spec was in the gutter last season and I'm not sure if puzzle is pulling me leg when he says it's on the rise or not

[grand mesa]

Wouldn’t be surprised if it was probably the best healer in the game rn

@stray sigil

Rdru or holy

That may be 3s tho maybe it’s diff in shuff

@clear fox

[stray sigil]

ur in luck then pig fuck

[grand mesa]

They need to take the tier set out back

And shoot it

[hushed hollow]

yeah but back in time it wasn just buff for short period of time but just normal form and dudu was quite tanky 🙂

[livid wasp]

I spend all my free time playing this

I sit around a lot at work too tho should get a netflix sub or something

too big of a hassle to pirate stuff for phone

[maiden viper]

it might be that damage can be very spiky right now (seemingly every class can clap someone from 50%, some better than others) and rdruid struggles with that, dunno. but I do know that outside of tree, I feel very weak.

and I absolutely detest having to cast starsurge as part of the rotation

[tropic schooner]

during wotlk you didnt even use it

[maiden viper]

now granted, I have forgotten to use symbiotic relationship every single round of shuffle I've played. don't think that's going to mean the difference tho

[hushed hollow]

tree form ? everyone was using it lmao

[minor tartan]

my little cousin called me today to tell me he hit duelist in blitz

[livid wasp]

cute

[neon rock]

Guys is really hard the difference between Keeper and Wildstalker? I see all resto druids playing WS but i feel like keeper is not that bad

[vestal citrus]

stern face on

[vestal citrus]

how do you live bro

in this economy

[livid wasp]

easy

[minor tartan]

i wish foodstamps worked for the year subscription

[vestal citrus]

you want some $ bro

i got a job you can do

[clear fox]

Too bad

Starsurge goated heal button

Just use the shadow word death macro

And just 360 mo scope it at something

For 3s the prevailing consensus seems to be wildstalker but for shuffle I think keeper of the grove can be better

Especially for what you have been struggling with seemingly

[maiden viper]

things started looking up when I got 4 set

or maybe I just adjusted a bit

but I'm going to try keeper and feel it out

[clear fox]

I usually open incarn / lore first global

Hold 2/3 treants along with ironbark

[maiden viper]

yeah rn I do rake stun on someone unto lore

[clear fox]

Then as lore fades I usually dump the rest of the trees and ironbark the prio target

You can but risky so like that’s just a vibes thing

If think you can get away with it certainly is good

[maiden viper]

oh yeah there are certain comps where I skip it

like hunters

[maiden viper]

this is good

the kind of stuff I'm looking for

[clear fox]

Especially with keeper it is essential to keep casting starsurge and using the free wrath to extend the hots

[clear fox]

With keeper you get the flat % healing increase

So you really extend that window where you’re doing massive hps

[maiden viper]

right

[clear fox]

To mitigate the end of avatar or pt2 of the burst

Then somehow lore felt like it was coming up just in time when cooldowns are back up

[maiden viper]

anything else? do I just roll shit like CW on cd?

[clear fox]

I mean outside of those changes it mostly plays like last season

Can get fancy with wildstalker and combo points for maim but not convinced it’s worth it in shuffle

Also I heavily dropped versatility for haste & mastery

But that’s an every season thing for me so idk

[clear fox]

Wildstalker provides more mana efficiency and supports playing for maim, keeper has higher overall hps capabilities/damage

I like keeper for shuffle, but I seem to be a bit on an island with that mindset

And @clear pulsar rdru is def best or 2nd best healer for sure for sure

[maiden viper]

how much haste you rolling?

[clear fox]

Somewhere just under the 10% Dr level

Like 32% or so

[maiden viper]

in pvp or outside lol

[grand mesa]

rdruid with and without 4pc is night and day

[maiden viper]

wait reforestation simply doesn't work with ancient of lore?

[clear fox]

Ye no

8 stacks

[clear fox]

In PvP

[minor tartan]

does warrior want 4pc

[late wraith]

sir this is a druid discord

[random patrol]

druid, turducken, dk discord

[tiny oar]

https://imgur.com/GiI7hCk

[random patrol]

I kind of want to eat some broccoli right now

[velvet quest]

well he didnt get a helpful response in dh discord so ofc he had to come here, where else is he gonna learn about warrior?stop being so elitist

[random patrol]

looks like furry warriors only want 2 piece

so there answered

@tiny oar druid 2 almost done just need to afk crates sat and it has 90 percent of gear

then its on to druid 3 and 4

[livid wasp]

whats that

[clear fox]

you call this

geared?

I think you can be like 677

[tropic schooner]

do you know how pvp gear works

[clear fox]

in pvp

I just know green = 655 or whatever

[tropic schooner]

okay so this is what like 665?

that sounds pretty much 90% gear

[clear fox]

I guess, just feel like why not get to 97% geared before 2nd druid

then again... I also have 3

[lime light]

https://tenor.com/view/gacchi-poe-poe2-computer-pc-gif-16453754138777739800

[tiny oar]

RISE AND GRIND

[lime light]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1277524486232735785.gif?size=160&quality=lossless

[random patrol]

@clear fox I have the conquet I just haven't spent it yet

I use a crap ton of crafted gear and didn't feel like getting it set up before I log off

[west socket]

Hi, does anyone have a nice resto druid talent build for bg's? I can only find builds for arena's

[maiden viper]

is lycara's meditation bugged?

leaving form very inconsistently retains bonuses

[forest kite]

I don't think people realize how much UI matters, this is so bad

[magic veldt]

it's clean wym?

[forest kite]

y

That should be jail time

[tulip falcon]

🙏🏻

[forest kite]

holy jesus

20% arcane shot buff

[tulip falcon]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/class-tuning-incoming-with-april-8th-weekly-reset-pvp-changes-376241?utm_source=discord-webhook

[forest kite]

NO WTF

wtf is that enormous feral druid nerf..

unwarranted

..

[flat imp]

Why 15% nerf on rip? Are they mental?

[tulip falcon]

certainly a big nerf

feral is doing pretty well but it seems a bit excessive, especially when there's no "developer's notes" to provide reasoning

[stray sigil]

lol

[wintry jackal]

Bunch of boomers

Doomers*

It is a fair nerf and the spec won’t be dead lmao

[clear pulsar]

Developner's notes: Feral has been the best pvp spec for 8 months

I gotchu brother

[tulip falcon]

lmao

probably the depth of it

[stray sigil]

tbh ferals dmg is super easy to get out rn for how strong it is

so u end up just bleeding and cloning doing random shit

[tulip falcon]

yep time to bring back real snapshotting to justify it

snapshotting bt rips with ps regrowths and sr

[tulip falcon]

think that was why mm was so oppressive as well though, like it's the easiest shit to play and was doing the damage it was doing

[wintry jackal]

^^

It will be fine

[stray sigil]

still exists

bt tf still snapshot

[tulip falcon]

Yeah but it's super easy compared to how clunky snapshotting used to be

[random patrol]

I should spend the conquet eventually

[tulip falcon]

Savage roar

And old BT

God i don't miss that rotation though in reality

[stray sigil]

sr was kinda nice in sl

big ff

[tiny oar]

u were kinda nice in sl

fell off hard

[stray sigil]

wadf

u cant say im washed u pig

thats NOT very nice

[random patrol]

there I bought all the gear @tiny oar yw druid 3 now inc

[tiny oar]

jking love u sweetie :)

[tiny oar]

why man WHY

[stray sigil]

[random patrol]

@tiny oar Im a boomy main only answer you need(that means I'm insane)

[livid wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-cat-insane-cat-help-my-cat-is-insane-help-my-cat-cat-gif-21688581

I hope they nerf feral to shit so I can be a victim and people can feel sorry for me

why frost wasnt nerfed is beyond me

[verbal quarry]

guys

if i want to start gearing forpvp what should i start with?

i am full pve stacked

should i spend conquest on trinkets and Upgrade pve tier set into pvp?

or weapon? what should i try to gear up with

[forest kite]

not trinkets

copy the gear of the r1's of your spec

from eu

[clear pulsar]

Pvpers have no idea

[forest kite]

r1's do

it's why they are r1

[clear pulsar]

Medallion has as much int as pants for almost half the conquest cost

[forest kite]

they are more intelligent than 99,99% of people

[clear pulsar]

Get trinkets with honor if you dont have conquest, upgrade anything you're wearing that doesnt have mastery, then anything that has crit, except tier pieces.

[verbal quarry]

do i spend conquest on weapon first then upgrading pve tier set with the pvp line?

[clear pulsar]

Dont you have a myth pve weapon?

[verbal quarry]

i do

[clear pulsar]

Then dont

[verbal quarry]

its raiding oriented haste mastery

no versa

[clear pulsar]

Get a ring to replace the cyrce circlet

[verbal quarry]

kk

then just upgrade tier set?

[clear pulsar]

Get tier shoulders to replace the tier chest

And upgrade ur pants and helm to pvp ilvl

[verbal quarry]

kk will do

[forest kite]

just copy the gear of r1's of your spec, it doesn't rly matter what u get first, as long as u get tier and wep etc, and you get wep for free btw

[verbal quarry]

face the real goat of rdruids

[forest kite]

so dont buy wep, u get free coin to buy conq wep after u earn like 2250 conq or something

[verbal quarry]

ok i see will do thx a ton <33333

[random patrol]

medallion is huge for main stat especially for conquest cost

[forest kite]

medallion is the last piece u wanna buy

[tropic schooner]

Some do but I'd say most dont

[verbal quarry]

any point upgrading the items with valorstone?

from honor or conquest?

[verbal quarry]

.

[tiny oar]

only changes pve ilvl of pvp pieces so if u need that ig

[verbal quarry]

i see . yeah i dont need that

[minor tartan]

is rdruid 4pc gutted

time to reroll?

[empty thicket]

good morning little friends

any starsurge macros get allied targets while also being able to target enemies?

[tropic schooner]

,

[tropic schooner]

can you elaborate what yo want the macro to do?

[empty thicket]

I want to press starsurge while healing allies just like @targettarget or when using assist functions

but i also want it to work if im targetting a enemy player normally

[tropic schooner]

like its doable but you do recognize that in general thats a terrible idea?

[empty thicket]

why?

[tropic schooner]

because you have no control over who you are gonna cast stuff on

potentially breaking CC

or do useless dmg

[empty thicket]

nah, i can check my targettarget, after all

i think Dex uses it

[tropic schooner]

but you cant easily cast it on the actual target you want

[empty thicket]

no, i can't

every 6s changing targets is so clunky

[tropic schooner]

imo a lot less clunky then this "solution"

/cast [@whateveryouwanttohaveasprimary,harm,nodead][] Starsurge

would be the macro

[empty thicket]

This wont work if i'm targetting someone in arena who already has a target, right?

in case i put targettarget as primary

[tropic schooner]

what do you mean wont work?

oh

if you target the healer

[empty thicket]

cuz will get the enemy target

yea

[tropic schooner]

and they target a friendly

that might not work thats true

so you want primary on your target if castable and backup on the targettarget?

[empty thicket]

i've seen some streamer using it, but im not sure who it was

[tropic schooner]

/cast [harm,nodead][@whateveryouwanttohaveasprimary,harm,nodead] Starsurge

doubt they were good

but that should do it

[empty thicket]

i think it was Dex, Danny or Flop

[tropic schooner]

no idea who those ppl are

[empty thicket]

sure

[tiny oar]

idk dex but surely u know the other two lol

[tropic schooner]

nah legit dont

but I also dont really watch much wow

[tiny oar]

they both NA r1

rdruids

[tropic schooner]

see

why would I know them

[empty thicket]

so you never played against them

[tropic schooner]

no

im on EU

[tiny oar]

i guess if ur just perma cata logging u wouldnt

and EU

[empty thicket]

i think flop and dex play on Eu

[tropic schooner]

have only played shuffle last season till like 2.3 or sth

[empty thicket]

also, hi lakers

[tiny oar]

oh did he swap to EU he was NA

[tiny oar]

hi meun ^^

[tropic schooner]

actually in 2k mmr cata you hit more multi r1s then at like 2.5

on retail

cata mmr is so fucked

think at 2k we are like top 50 horde

(and like 400 overall)

[empty thicket]

you play in cata as rdru?

[tropic schooner]

no

[tiny oar]

ye but im saying the r1s in cata are prolly not all the same as the retail ones

[tropic schooner]

I play affli atm

[tropic schooner]

they are

laserchicken for example

[tiny oar]

i know there were a lot of private server r1s that only played classic shit no ?

[tropic schooner]

ofc its not 1 to 1

but there are a lot

[empty thicket]

yea, most of them are playing on mop privates rn

[tiny oar]

but yea if ur mostly EU scene you wouldnt know NA ppl

idk if i could name 4 EU rdruids

[tropic schooner]

I also dont particularly care about many r1 player

I just play the game

[tiny oar]

yeee

[tiny oar]

huuuge

do i play this season man FUCK I DOnt know

[empty thicket]

thats fair, but also weird if you judge other peoples macros considering your gamestyle only

[tropic schooner]

?

im sorry but I absolutely WILL judge assist macros

they are just bad

[empty thicket]

why?

[tropic schooner]

I already explained

and you agreed that its worse

which is fine dont have to play optimally if you dont wanna

[empty thicket]

I don't know what you're talking about

but sure

[tropic schooner]

??

you cant cast starsurge on a kill target if your ally doesnt currently have them targeted easily

[empty thicket]

I mean, thats why i wanted the macro

[tropic schooner]

no that is with the macro

[empty thicket]

i want to cast it even if my ally isnt on the kill target

and if he is, i can cast on him without changing targets

[tropic schooner]

unless he swaps

before you can recognize it

[clear pulsar]

/use [@mouseover,harm][@target,harm][@targettarget,harm][]starsurge

I dont know if you can but maybe you could do like party1target and party2target as fallbacks for if targettarget doesnt work

[tropic schooner]

not sure if mouseover was wanted but otherwise this seems identical but longer to the one I posted

[clear pulsar]

You just made a bad mistake imo

You're supposed to give the answer before you berate them for the bad question, not after

[tropic schooner]

doing both

[clear pulsar]

If you berate first nobody's gonna read it all and they'll just skip over the helpful bit

I scrolled right past every message

[tropic schooner]

but think its better to say why the macro is bad before giving it

[clear pulsar]

Starsurge being used on cd without fumbling is 100% more important than having it go on a meaningful target

And if people are manually retargeting to cast polymorph, fuck em

[clear fox]

I swear just use the shadow word death macro

#showtooltip
/StopCasting
/Focus
/TargetEnemy [@Target,noharm][@Target,dead]
/TargetLastEnemy [@Target,noharm][@Target,dead]
/Cast Shadow Word: Death
/ClearTarget [@Focus,noexists]
/Target [@Focus]
/ClearFocus

Just vomit out a surge at something and keep healing

[empty thicket]

rofl

[clear fox]

Im 100% serious lmao

[tropic schooner]

sure

its not the worst thing ever

its a lot better then wasting your focus

(tbh depending on how your ui is that actually can be okay too)

[grand mesa]

Based

Wonder who gave you that macro

[clear fox]

A true mystery

[tiny oar]

ive heard he is kinda a weakaura wizard too

[clear fox]

Man plays “curse forge” all the time

[real kernel]

Question it's easier learn from zero feral or assassination rogue?

Ofc talking from pvp perspective, i don't plat pve

[tropic schooner]

if you learn from literally 0 I doubt it matters much

[clear pulsar]

Insane streak and marathons on CurseForge 100%

[tropic schooner]

most things you gotta learn are not spec dependent

[real kernel]

Tbh i was thinking same

Let's play feral then 👀

[minor tartan]

BUT BIG cusi n william ferals was multi r1 in vietnam

lmao !!

[static steeple]

ofc rdruid gets nerfed eventhough ppl are spamming holy priest

[minor tartan]

IS RDRU bin now ?

im gearing rn

[static steeple]

i wouldn't say bin

we def needed a mana nerf. i never had to stealth for a drink once this season
the 4piece nerf is a tad scary cause i feel like we're only decent because of 4piece

but then again maybe it's fine, i always have lifebloom and double rejuv so i can't tell how much of those insurances are coming from lifebloom specifically.

[minor tartan]

i just wanna be op brother

whats the ring effect called

the item i need

[verbal quarry]

Im a pvp legend

[minor tartan]

WIL FERALS the goat of arenas

and crusader

[clear pulsar]

What the fuck is the move rn fuse and ceralium

Pikaboo retired?

[maiden viper]

my thinking on this is:

very often, the critical CC (that can break on dmg) is on a healer. in my experience, almost everyone who casts CC that breaks use focus/arena123 macros so it's very rare that they manually target the healer. so the ease of getting starsurge out for the healing amp is going to provide much more utility that's going to translate into wins in the long term than the risk of losing because you broke CC

which is why I also use a yolo SWD macro on priest

[late wraith]

Girl what?!

[wintry jackal]

Drake sitting half of that match in bear form and still topping charts is why rip nerf is fair lmao

[livid wasp]

why is the new rdruid tree form so broken

immune to cc

[stray sigil]

it is broken but my boy

fear not next ssn this tier is gone

and rdru is in the shadows

[stray sigil]

pika/sterge taking a break

idk their healer but its wiz/ceral/fuse

[livid wasp]

balanced class

[clear pulsar]

Right now it's still absterge

[grand mesa]

Pikaboo hitting big boy numbers since onlyfangs

Finally free from streaming retail and viewer 2s for 15 hours a day

[stray sigil]

really?

[clear pulsar]

He should come back, I'm tired of server ddos

[stray sigil]

i dont think sterge is playing

the bracket page is tweaking

[grand mesa]

Yeah it was sterge

When they played the series

[stray sigil]

didnt he say he was taking a break

tf

or is that next cup

[clear pulsar]

Axtin up next

[stray sigil]

they were fisting them

on ladder the other day

kitty vs rmp

lmfao this is going horrible for liquid

[clear pulsar]

Yall rly made rdru sound like infinite mana infinite healing

This is some dogshit

Classic priest gaslighting @grand mesa

[grand mesa]

WW punching an spr is just that overtuned

Wcyd

WW is a criminal spec

[clear pulsar]

[grand mesa]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/703989285828689953/1357912811099131964/20250405-0259-32.9924005.mp4?ex=67f2971a&is=67f1459a&hm=5653738ff2273a98d3deec6cda51f800b74aedd6531c0957e8f5536b786ac5b8&

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

Our dear boy Fuji

[stray sigil]

ww is weak actually

[clear pulsar]

It's true

Rdru is just that bad cant heal thru ww damage

[grand mesa]

WW is the real enemy

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

Actually why is feral getting shot while WW exists

now that I think about it

[stray sigil]

[livid wasp]

why does destro lock do 3 million chaos bolts

wtf is this game

and they say rip is broken

oh no it ticks like 200k

so broken

[grand mesa]

Mr. Warcraft

[livid wasp]

nerf rip

dont touch destro locks

[grand mesa]

[stray sigil]

its also about ease of doing the dmg my boy

getting a bolt out vs getting a rip out

[clear pulsar]

Brother stop the gaslighting

[clear pulsar]

I've been on my detective era as you know

And the more I look into this

[stray sigil]

[clear pulsar]

The more it seems Oracle is the enemy

On all fronts

[stray sigil]

real

so fucking real

SO REAL

ww is bolonced

[clear pulsar]

Oracle is the enemy in raid in m+ in arena in pet battling

[stray sigil]

for this face

[grand mesa]

Well preventative measures is getting shot

[stray sigil]

whenever u get back to pvp

and want some conq

i will q 2s with u

and give u the ryomen kwok

[grand mesa]

he’s making it sound like an offer

when really he’s got no one to do 2s with

He’s been LFGing

[stray sigil]

(i am desperate)

[livid wasp]

getting a bolt out is super easy

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

[grand mesa]

We do 2s tonight unless I’m summoned for keys

U get the hprussy

[stray sigil]

what he say

[clear pulsar]

[grand mesa]

Or do u want the rdrussy

[stray sigil]

[livid wasp]

just get 2 chaos bolts off and win the game

[grand mesa]

Why u let him bolt

[livid wasp]

if im cced

or too far

[wintry jackal]

Trill was actually scared of axtin

[grand mesa]

#mrwarcraft

[stray sigil]

can we nerf rmp

[wintry jackal]

I stopped watching after left for dead lost

No point

[livid wasp]

arena is so boring to watch

idk how you manage

[wintry jackal]

I just did it while I was doing my cardio today and I wanted to support axtin

So watched his game

[hushed hollow]

how do you guys feel about new feral nerf in pvp?

[wintry jackal]

It will be fine

Feral will still be strong

[stray sigil]

i was hoping for chun ww

but no chance

vs rmp

[livid wasp]

how is this balanced

[stray sigil]

you can kick it

[livid wasp]

not if im kiting him

[stray sigil]

can also just typhoon it

[livid wasp]

40 yard range

[stray sigil]

idk nobody plays crackle anymore its pretty bad vs ppl who know about it

[livid wasp]

kinda weird how feral feels so shit yet it gets nerfed

[stray sigil]

could just incap roar and kite

and he has -1 talent

[livid wasp]

I just saw him in bg I rooted him and ran and he used that on me and it almost killed me

[velvet quest]

just meld it

[stray sigil]

zechey is a dumb cow

[livid wasp]

meld needs a 2 sec cast time

[clear fox]

He plays TAUREN

For sure for sure def needs 2 second cast

[livid wasp]

imagine the amount of people who would reroll from nelf

imagine all the amount of money blizzard would get

why wont they hire me

[stray sigil]

its real nelf is op

[livid wasp]

I would be such good value with these suggestions

[stray sigil]

thats real

[livid wasp]

just keep buffing and nerfing different races to make people reroll

[clear fox]

Can I be

[livid wasp]

they are not gonna quit or anything they will do it

[clear fox]

Vulpera Druid ?

[livid wasp]

they buy 90 buck mounts for chrissake

[clear fox]

I bought it with gold idk

[livid wasp]

why not abuse it and make people generate your company free money with this super simple trick

someone bought those tokens though

[clear fox]

Doctors 🤬 hate this one 1️⃣ simple trick 🪄

[livid wasp]

so you kinda bought it with money

[clear fox]

I guess ye

But if that keeps the sub at 15

[stray sigil]

ITS LIKE 20 FOR ME

[livid wasp]

11 euros a month for me

thats like 100 bucks soon with tariffs

[stray sigil]

its like 18 and taxe or something

[livid wasp]

100 dollhairs

[late wraith]

and i'd do it again

[grand mesa]

waiting for v3 with the crafting order bench and bank

[late wraith]

me and puzzle are the target market

we're their favorite little demographic.

[clear fox]

I was so annoyed when yall were posting Bruto pics

And I couldn’t get one yet

[tropic schooner]

I absolutely needed my second longboi

[late wraith]

when we did the rich guy parade

i can't believe ben missed rich guy parade it was amazing

[tropic schooner]

wait I thought you only had the poor person longboi?

[late wraith]

it doesn't count if i wasn't actively playing during bfa because it was a dogshit expansion

[tropic schooner]

black market

[clear pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hug-angry-birds-catbird-really-meme-no-fake-gif-9980836029424925531

[tropic schooner]

smh

[late wraith]

that one is ugly i have the new one which is good

[tropic schooner]

wow

[late wraith]

you're like a guy who bought a tesla in 2019 and swears it's still good even if it feels like you're using a 20 year old iphone.

[tropic schooner]

thats how my PC is

[clear fox]

2019 ?!

What are you in the future

[late wraith]

show me that cat

siri show me a picture of ben's cat

[livid wasp]

make ben's cat in style of studio ghibli

[random patrol]

[late wraith]

hi bb cat

[vestal citrus]

dude im so out of wow atm

wtf happened to pikaboo

hes not in awc anymore

[late wraith]

he's a streamer

of classic hc

[vestal citrus]

i mean shit makes sense

[late wraith]

and going on dates?

i dunno i tuned in to watch his pov on awc shit and immediately swapped to ziqo

[livid wasp]

hes making more money than all of retail andies put together

[late wraith]

yeah i mean good on him

he's good at this sort of thing

[vestal citrus]

ya ofc

i mean im surprised as much as I am not surprised

awc getting 7.6k viewers

is cooked lol

fold the tournament bro its over

[livid wasp]

sadge

too bad its the only game worth playing

[vestal citrus]

i used to feel that

then i stopped playing and couldn't care less atp

[livid wasp]

so what do you play now

[vestal citrus]

just whatever really, random games on steam, things that don't require dedicated hours to play yk?

can pick it up and put it down whenever

[grand mesa]

that sounds way too healthy

i hate it

[vestal citrus]

i just bang the gym bro

thats the replcaement addiction

[livid wasp]

I like to do 1 hour+ runs

but can do only so many per week

cooldown on legs

[wintry jackal]

Wow can be play played casually

But yeah lots of games out there zechey

[vestal citrus]

ehh i can't play it casually

wild watching frost mage just spamming ice lance perma then getting korean swapped into death

coookin

[wintry jackal]

It is hard

Tbh if I stay up Qing late it always throws me off for gym in morning

[vestal citrus]

yer

[wintry jackal]

But if I don’t play I get rusty and can’t climb

[vestal citrus]

during raid prog when we would go hard

I would have to decide between gym and wow

and wow would always prevail lol