pvp

[clear pulsar]

Maybe just NS upgrade lol

Regen heartwood is kinda lit

+4s

[clear fox]

could go WS for sure

is just like +2%

overall

[clear pulsar]

• whatever blooms it procs

I think it's worth it

It's time

[clear fox]

good luck sir

STREAM OFFLINE

[clear pulsar]

Idk man getting 1 good Efflo on a big go is huge

Verdancy always does like at least 5% of my healing

[clear fox]

I should probs throw down more of em

overall

[stray sigil]

NICE STREAM

[grand mesa]

WHERE STREAM

[clear pulsar]

No stream

I got cooked

[clear pulsar]

1-5 at 1950 mmr

Spring blossoms maybe too big of a cook

[stray sigil]

i read something else there for a sec

[clear pulsar]

Think about this.
Thriving Veg is the same Rejuv % of MAX Regenesis benefit (+reg duration is not meaningless either).
Most of the time Regenesis is giving you less than 1/3 benefit.

[clear fox]

That good way to think about how piss it is

Also as much as it’s annoying

Lore does feel required 😢

[cunning prairie]

face can u pepebutt me

i wanna snag it :>

[clear pulsar]

[cunning prairie]

the other one hehehe

[clear pulsar]

[cunning prairie]

ty

[tiny oar]

we have a good time here

[stray sigil]

U STILE IT

FIVE US CREDIT

STEALER PIG

[grand mesa]

Not only does he yoink our shit

He hands out the stolen goods

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

[tiny oar]

@clear pulsar is a man of the people.
he steals from the well off socialites and redistributes the wealth to the poor and impoverished emoji-less of society.
he is the modern day robin hood do not slander his good name.

[harsh ore]

I coulda told you that myself 🤣

Shroom in pvp is rage bait

[tiny oar]

i can think of use cases but pretty rare yea

[random patrol]

weeeeeeeeeeee Im walking on sunshine ohhh ohhhhhhhh

and Im ganking lowbies

ooooohhhh ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[high tundra]

how realistic is getting 2500 conquest in a day

[high tundra]

the pvp bis list has the shoulders in the head slot ?

[high tundra]

do you have to catalyse to get the pvp version of tierset?

[languid dock]

haven't looked at druid but every single time i've ever googled some sort of "guide" or whatever for wow it's absolute shit. I just go to murlok and copy

[high tundra]

when do we use wild growth

[clear fox]

what spec is this for?

oh based off the wild growth question must be resto

As for the list its close except

• All prized warmonger items will be crafted for better stat splits (and +3 ilevel)
• Glaidator's Signet -> 2nd Algari Competitor's Signet
• 2h Staff -> 1h Haste / OH Mastery&Haste -> when spare conquest craft algari lamp with ascendance

[tropic schooner]

also says resto in the link

[clear fox]

My char is about as bis as you can get this week, I could have pulled out slightly more if I was aware I would be getting gilded crests but thats neither here nor there https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/us/chogall/taaienberg

[clear fox]

IM BLIND LMAO

[tropic schooner]

its very hidden

||in the first line||

[clear fox]

literally the first sentence

I read pvp bis list stopped reading that line

and just looked at items

[tropic schooner]

technicallly

[clear fox]

and I saw conquest ring and saw red

[tropic schooner]

it doesnt even say that

[clear fox]

the pvp bis list has the shoulders in the head slot ?

?????

?????

[tropic schooner]

(but from context obviously makes sense)

[clear fox]

yes, can also catalyze prized warmonger gear

And wild growth isnt really cast in the standard build. I didnt even have it bound till last season when I was playing wildstalker as a shuffle tech build

[high tundra]

does the instant wg pvp talent make it worth it

or no

[high tundra]

which slots should i prio switching to tier piece also

[clear fox]

all except chest

[high tundra]

doesnt matter what order i get them in?

[clear fox]

best two are gloves and legs

[high tundra]

aight

[clear fox]

legs being the better of the two

[high tundra]

legs first then

[clear fox]

wait

Im mixing up seaons

Helm > Legs > Gloves > Shoulders, no chest

gloves I would reccomend catalyzing the war mode item to save the conquest

but thats just early season optimization of resources

[high tundra]

i have no war mode money left i was an idiot and got the 1hand weapon

with the wrong stats too

bc it was a big upgrade for me in pve xd

[clear fox]

HASTE

GOOD STAT

[high tundra]

i thought we stack mastery?

[clear fox]

why not both

[high tundra]

when i can afford to should I make this a pvp piece?

or should i find a new offhand

[clear fox]

naw

when you get 2500 conquest

you just get 2 pieces

[high tundra]

oh i forgot u get free weapon

[clear fox]

you replace it with crafted in like

7 weeks

when you have everyhting conq ilevel

as like the finishing touch

[high tundra]

i see

not long to go

[clear fox]

I went these

so I can just spend 450 on the offhand when I have everything else maxed out

[high tundra]

wise

[clear fox]

just looking at hte minor screenshot

[high tundra]

one more epic bg then my conquest gain rate goes to 0

[clear fox]

id craft a 2nd algari ring

since the stat split is 50/50 can get more mastery

[high tundra]

i see

[clear fox]

but also given your versa at 31% Id send it mastery/haste

[high tundra]

aight

[clear fox]

but up to you, lowering versa does make you more kill able

so have to find a number youre happy with risk vs reward wise

[high tundra]

this is my first season of rdruid and my third season of pvp in general so ill prob stick with more vers

[clear fox]

would say probably ~25% would be good then

always easy to lower with rings and so on if you want to as well

In any case good luck

And don’t worry about early season gearing it all works out in a month or two with his everywhere

[high tundra]

i feel like im doing awful at this

[high tundra]

2set acquired

so with the free weapon do i take 2h staff or mh-oh

[high tundra]

what do i do if my dps is losing me

[clear fox]

I went mh oh so I can craft ascendance easier down the road, but either choice is fine. Pick what you like for mog

sadly if dps is losing you kinda have to chase in the least bad way possible

either angling around the side of whatever it is

or if they are super dumb you just have to go in

[high tundra]

i hate the ravencrest arena man

[clear fox]

that one isnt even that that bad

usually you stand by the door if you have a warlock

or around the side wall thingy around the big pillar

[high tundra]

i see

[clear fox]

I do hate HAVING to go in the room on the other teams side

[high tundra]

idk i lose so many rounds in this one

the rest feel fine but i just suck at ravencrest

[clear fox]

I really try to avoid that but sometimes you just gotta

positioning overall is the hardest thing to be good at

regularly I look at my positioning and Im like why am I even here, Ive been moderately successful at pvp but still can massively improve that aspect of my game

[high tundra]

i see

yeah idk

its hard to focus on everything happening

[clear fox]

hard to give concrete advice unless you have a vod or something

[high tundra]

its over for me

[clear fox]

all good

sometimes it be that way

What do you feel went wrong, couldnt make enough hps, ate infnite cc, had to chase dps endlessly leading to the prior two?

[high tundra]

ate infinite cc

found out the feral druid id been trying to focus healing on was attacking people while they were cycloned

preservation evoker idk how to deal with that either

i got sleepwalked like 10 times a round

[clear fox]

pres is def a harder healer matchup

they have the fire breath purge

however you do have some absurd tools to make their lives miserable

vs pres running the mass roots is huge

if they are rooted they cant cast their most important heal

so it can really disrupt thier momentum and if they get behind they cant sleep walk, and then you can hit em with the uno reverse cyclone

which also is disgusting vs prev

They have a talent that heals a % of the recent damage taken... except it dosent work while they are cloned

and same if they are in emerald communion if they are cloned... it dosent heal

[high tundra]

ahh

[clear fox]

but for sure if they get ahead and youre just trying to play catch up it feels impossible

[high tundra]

so as long as im ahead i can counter it pretty much?

[clear fox]

goes both ways yes

they win more if ahead or lose more if behind

also playing 5 min heart of the wild to get the fast cyclone casts can be good

lets you sneak one in on em and get 1-2 of those when they need to ehal and its a huge swing in momentum

[high tundra]

wtf am i supposed to do if a druid is just following me around and spamming cyclone

it feels like some kind of assault

[clear fox]

bash him and clone him back?

but realistically you cant always do that so its more of if they are intent on it

positioning yourself in a way to make it nearly not worth their while

like around a pillar forcing htem to use a stun to set it up

and or just a distance away so they have to run all the way to you

then back to their intdended target

[high tundra]

sorry didnt reply i was still mid arena

thank u for the advice

i got the guy on my team so it was no longer an issue

but i still dont rlly know what to do if im getting chain cced

i cant los them bc then i cant heal

and it feels like rolling hots is never enough to keep people alive

should i be spamming rejuv alot?

for the thriving vegetation heal

[tropic schooner]

can post a vod but usually the answer is not get chain cced

[high tundra]

ill start recording some games

is bg healing similar to arena healing?

[tropic schooner]

in the relevant part id say no not really

like sure the spells you cast will be somewhat similar

but big part being positioning its very different

[high tundra]

i see

should i be switching into cat form ever?

my weakaura doesnt work in pvp its over

[clear fox]

not really

[high tundra]

i see

[clear fox]

outside of stealth in the opener

[high tundra]

i use it to escape roots is that a bad habit

[clear fox]

which I havent even been doing lately

just slamming infinite hots

well I have vs like rogues

the niche use is its the fastest wild charge travel speed

if you want to slam a bash on the healer or something, its way faster than bear charge

[high tundra]

i see

am i better off escaping roots with bear/travel form then?

[clear fox]

I almost always swap travel from to get out of roots

just the jump to get back to where Im going feels so nice

but I have definitely died in moments where ive gone travel instead of bear out of habit

[high tundra]

what should i be buying with conquest first

trinkets?

[clear fox]

I think you buy those last

[high tundra]

oh

what do i get first then

[clear fox]

oops

[high tundra]

kogmaw meta tft

[clear fox]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/us/chogall/taaienberg

Thats my char should be able to buy everything I did conquest wise

[high tundra]

i have head and legs i can afford 1 more thing

shoulders then

another question, how do i get precognition, and whats a meta gem slot

[clear fox]

Thats the coginitive bloodstone

just goes in any gem socket

[high tundra]

oh okay

[clear fox]

Id probs craft chest or 3x rings

chest is main stat

rings lets you put in sockets

[high tundra]

i crafted neck and a ring

but i could buy the stuff to craft chest

[clear fox]

Id probs do that then

or buy shoulders

really isnt a bad choice

[high tundra]

i can afford to do both

with max conquest cap

huge

[clear fox]

nice nice

[high tundra]

whats the diff between this and the algari competitor

nvm thats just pve

the guy is geared as hell

this is crazy ??

im gonna be completely out of gold

[clear fox]

youre eu yes?

[clear fox]

pve crafted, if you had 60 gilded crests you could make it at 675 ilevel

[high tundra]

indeedie

i bought precog gem instead

[clear fox]

well darn since I have enchants on na

[high tundra]

just played a round where dampen got up to 80% wtf

[high tundra]

do we always have a button to press?

i have full hots on a guy and it just feels like theyre busrting throigh and all i can do is spam rgs

is it jjst like that sometimes or am i missing something

[clear fox]

Cyclone the dps

If they are in their big burst window cyclone just burns the cooldown time and lets your hots tick

Will sometimes make the dps mad if they heating into it but better that than them dying

But regrowth is kind it, tranq does insane hps too even if single target

[high tundra]

i see

ive been saving tranq alot

i thought we were cc and damage immune during tranquility

[chrome panther]

not anymore.

[high tundra]

i see

[chrome panther]

was a pvp talent they removed.

[high tundra]

ahhh

i got jumpscared bc j thought i was chilling and a priest just walked up and feared me shjdvhp

[tight willow]

is there a list of good help/harm macros for resto pvp?

I'm going crazy cooking my own, feels like I need flowcharts

[tropic schooner]

id say most people dont use them personally I really dislike them but if you want to make them its basically on you to figure out what you want to do

[tight willow]

alright

[tight willow]

why do you dislike them?

[tropic schooner]

I use auto selfcast for heals for example

so I dont need to swap target to heal myself

also I would prolly get confused

[tight willow]

I have hostile/friendly -> myself on the few I've experimented with

so for instance in a macro that would in order of priority do Lifebloom friendly --> Starsurge enemey --> Lifebloom myself

but yeh its confusing

but I'm running out of keys especially when running fluid form

[tropic schooner]

yes you can do stuff like that for sure

[unkempt parrot]

i'm going to ask a very noob question, pvp gear doesn't cross into pve right? pointless to wear in raids/m+?

[clear pulsar]

It's a regular piece of loot same as anything of same ilvl that drops from pve

Your 2ndaries will be super skewed towards vers but flip some jewelry slots over to haste heavy and you're golden

[livid wasp]

today ill shuffle and not tilt no matter what happens

[tropic schooner]

We trust

[tardy hare]

We doubt

[tiny oar]

today ill shuffle and not tilt no matter what happens

[tropic schooner]

are you tilted yet?

[livid wasp]

no

[tropic schooner]

build dif

[livid wasp]

I went 5-1

ego went up and the next time I play it will be a 1-5 or 0-6 and it all comes crashing down

[high tundra]

what to do if being focused as a healer

im running away spamming clones and roots

but paladins are persistent as hell

also bm hunter

do i just try outheal it

[tropic schooner]

big pumper

[high tundra]

is 2s just unbelievably harder ?

[grand mesa]

Rdru is still Rdru in 2s I think

[high tundra]

not sure what this means this is my second day on the spec in pvp 😢

i hate hunter!!! i hate hunter !!

[tropic schooner]

dunno how you define hard

I find it easier to actually keep the overview which is imo most frustrating in pvp

[high tundra]

i see

idk

everything feels more sudden in 2s

[grand mesa]

2s is way slower and probably easier to process

also rdru has been king for 2s for a long time and I don’t see that changing ever in general

[high tundra]

what makes us king

is it just bc my friends gear is too low

[tropic schooner]

that sounds very very weird

if anything it should feel the opposite

[grand mesa]

I think the flexibility to do whatever you want lol. Not many healers have that many CC tools, the mobility to make other team dps miserable, and ability to just fuck off and 45 yard heal if the moment calls for it

[tropic schooner]

tbh looking at ladder it seems like disc is god class in 2s

and not even close

[grand mesa]

Every melee hates playing into rdru lol. They go rdru they can’t catch easily. If they don’t go rdru they get cloned

[high tundra]

i see

i think im playing too close then

my 2s partner is insisting on wearing non pvp 4set though

[tropic schooner]

as basically any healer you are supposed to max range

in most situations

[high tundra]

i see

is it fair to say gear may be part of the issue

i dont think it should feel this bad to heal in arena

[grand mesa]

You start with 30% damp in 2s

if you’re healer dps

which is most situations anyway

But it’s kinda necessary

[high tundra]

ahh

I see

[bleak zinc]

hey new here i dont see any bloody token quests around but i havent capped what is the issue

[high tundra]

they might justnot be up rn

[tropic schooner]

tilt check

[livid wasp]

I only played that one game, why play more to possibly ruin the mood

[bleak zinc]

so there could be days where no quest for bloody tokens are available

[random patrol]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/class-tuning-incoming-march-25/2080741

some pvp tuning

less reliance on harmony of the grove that being said no elune still not as good as keeper

[livid wasp]

Tireless Pursuit (PvP Talent) now increases movement speed by 25% (was 40%). yeah make frost mages more unbearable

thank you so much

[random patrol]

druid pvp tuning

chickens eating well

rip cats though

[tiny oar]

no fucking WAY THEY NERFED TIRELESS

that is CRAZY

[livid wasp]

did people consider it op or what

its been in the game for ages

[late wraith]

boooomy time

[harsh ore]

Blizzard hates zechey

Death to blizzard (in game)

[livid wasp]

WW is absoltuely broken and they get some small nerf

All healing done is now reduced by 10% in Rated Battlegrounds and Battleground Blitz.

2v2 Arena matches now start with an additional 10% healing reduction.

hmm have fun healers

[random patrol]

blizzard wants me to play damp chicken with those changes

alright Ill be the evil person

twos meme be meme now more so

harmony nerf is a thing but keeper still just way better until they give ec some kind of real defensive node

well dreamburst to good to

[livid wasp]

didnt you say you stay away start of season

[random patrol]

yep

Im not playing 2 more weeks

serious games

at least

come week 10 damp chicken though

[clear pulsar]

Slicing winds and CJL nerfs are great idk what you mean

[random patrol]

lit log on join a crate group cap on conquest and tokens got 2k of each atm

[stray sigil]

but ww gets ccd my boy

feral immunes half cc in game

[grand mesa]

Zechey I’ll have you know that Fuji sounds exactly like you in my DMs

Crying about frost mage

So

[stray sigil]

id love to see zechey on ww vs frost mage

if he thinks he has it bad on feral

[velvet quest]

Been saying that forever, I taught fuji everything he knows now he’s repeating my talking points

[stray sigil]

[livid wasp]

WW damage is stupid and one made my spriest turn his game off for the night

[stray sigil]

tank spec couldnt tank it

pour one out for the sps

https://tenor.com/view/sad-upset-violin-sponge-bob-mr-crab-gif-3530280

[harsh ore]

FOF 1 shotting players is cringe

They didn’t get nerfed enough

[stray sigil]

show me a fist 1 shotting you i need to see thta

[fallow monolith]

EC could be ok you get 20% more dam on moonfire which just got 30% buffed, 3% flat more dam, 6% dam on fury of elune target and 10% more in incarn. One less global to setup a go. You can take moonfire slow or lower wild charge cd which counts as defensive. You have 20 or so seconds longer incarn recharge and no instant roots/regrowth and no regrowth dam reduction. You get some free magic reduction. Idk it could be a lazier way to play which might be nice. Might even swap treants for stellar flare which i have been wanting to run.

[random patrol]

ec only good if your getting trained imo and even then double melee I just run starfall rot

its less bad but stil gen worse

[fallow monolith]

Hmm yeah maybe you are right

Ill give it a run and see how it goes anyway

[random patrol]

dr from regrowth to good to

love that shit

and yes ill test the stuff after reset of course

[finite bay]

So with the changes we are essentially getting a 7% nerf to Starsurge? Treants giving 4% dmg increase per down from 8%, so 12% total, down from 24%. That coupled with the 5% buff to Starsurge is a -7% nerf. Am I doing that math right?

Pretty big nerf to Dreamsurge damage as well :/

Gonna need some testing, but that 160% increase to starfire via Lunar calling might be the play?

[random patrol]

lc nerfed in pvp still so no

[primal glacier]

Lunar calling was 80% effective in PvP, so does that mean it is now 128% dmg increase (80% of 160%) or is it still just 80%?

[finite bay]

I thought they undid that

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it should be 128%

[finite bay]

I wonder if it will be enough to back the melee train off?

I also wonder how the frenzied regen will feel?

[random patrol]

protective grove 2 good

[clear fox]

@clear pulsar you can tell me to stop asking questions if it’s ever too much…. But till then, how does the 4 set work? In terms of more blooms -> more feee hots or is it some ppm base off haste? Really just curious to know if it makes invigorate incrementally or appealing. Feels craft wise it feels like an interesting button combined with the starsurge mini flourish

Def have moments where I come out of lore and rapidly feel like I have to tranq, where I would have the globals to reset hots post invig burning them out

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it's just pure % chance so invig is pretty good for HPS there

The 'problem' with 4p generating hots is just that if you have all 4 hots up, it doesnt do any refreshing of them

So sometimes your insurance pops and a rejuv had 2s left

Now you just have to rejuv again

[stray sigil]

what melee train

brother this meta is all caster/melee

double melee not a thing

[late wraith]

where are you seeing a 7% nerf to starsurge

this is only when they're up.

it's overall buffed

so we're just getting less burst when the trees are up.

your math only makes sense if you have 100% uptime on treants

[finite prawn]

damn you dirty druids, why

deliberately sat afk as a healer naked

[random patrol]

@late wraith anything in the rudar discord about the changes yet

what people think I mean

[late wraith]

haven't checked tbh i don't look on there much rn

[random patrol]

I still think kotg better

ec def not useless now though

but double melee rare outside of shuffle

[velvet quest]

what are u trying to accomplish with this lol

[finite prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/i-want-fucking-justice-billy-mcbride-billy-bob-thornton-goliath-i-demand-justice-gif-22836722

[stray sigil]

1200 mmr is wild

[finite prawn]

was first round on this char

sat in Q 32 mins

[stray sigil]

1200 ull see some wild shit for sure

[finite prawn]

got a healer afk spamming while naked

now 35 mins into queue again...

[stray sigil]

i dont expect those ppl to have fully developed brain

[velvet quest]

ggs i was the healer

[finite prawn]

shoulda gone for miracle whip

[stray sigil]

u do belong in there

[velvet quest]

[finite prawn]

it is a kick to the dong to spend an hour not playing

[tiny oar]

[random patrol]

the tldr is the druid changes for boomy is prob overall slighly less burst for better normal damn and ec is slightly better but gen still a meme(could play an umbral build with it and mastery stack with engineer items and enchant plus on use dam trinket for memes though

[open spoke]

Rdruid frezied regen buff thats it

[random patrol]

best r druid thing is lighting them on fire

like the world tree

[open spoke]

Our time will come, in season 3 or 4. Hopefully

[acoustic fiber]

what tier piecse we lookin at for s2?

for resto

[open spoke]

Crafted chest. Rest are tier

[acoustic fiber]

thx 🙂

[open spoke]

Chest gives high crit which is useless

[late wraith]

that was me i'm a win trader

in the 1200 bracket. i'm the guy they're always yapping about

[finite prawn]

no it wasn't

[late wraith]

yes it was

[tiny oar]

it was definitely beavs i watched her stream it was so funny

[finite prawn]

It's some latin-american win-trader/boost kid

[clear pulsar]

That's beavs yep

[velvet quest]

i was on the other team, i paid beavs to boost me to 1300 mmr. gonna go to the website now and leave a 5 star review now

[late wraith]

yeah i mean

that's me

business as a 1300 blitz win trader has honestly never been better

[tiny oar]

[languid dock]

I think I remember blizzard saying war within only has 3 seasons but could be wrong

[chrome panther]

Yes there's no fated season

[languid dock]

didnt even know 1k mmr existed in blitz. ive done like 2k blitz games this expansion and anything below 2k is a joke i just triple everyones dmg/healing. i would love to play in a 1k mmr game with some of these people

[high tundra]

can you get the 1800 rating catalyst charge from bg blitz ?

or 1600 whatever the number is

[wintry jackal]

@late wraith dude the severance finale

[open spoke]

oh short expac

so this expac lasts about 1.5 years only then

[open spoke]

yes u can, 1600

[languid dock]

yea, usually takes me about 2-3 hours to get 0-1800 on new characters

like 1-2 for 1600

[high tundra]

in bg blitz right

[languid dock]

yes

[open spoke]

Yea in bg blitz

[high tundra]

ok good been playing for 2 days straight and stuck at 1250 in shuffle 💔

healing is not for me

[chrome panther]

its pretty rough as rdru rn especially as a beginner

dont feel bad.

i just randomly kill them in two globals on fury constantly if i catch them out of bear.

[high tundra]

yeah

its weird

i know im supposrd to bear if im being attacked

but wtf is my response when a rogue shadowstep stuns me out of nowhere

[open spoke]

shuffle is not a fun place for rdruids

[chrome panther]

tbh ur better off running and understanding what mobility they have left vs urs

even in bear they fold

[high tundra]

the bg blitz guide is lacking in certain areas lol

[harsh ore]

Which site is this again

Who’s the author of the article? You can ping them here if there’s an issue and they’ll explain / fix

I get my pvp info from murlok.io

[high tundra]

icyveins

[late wraith]

I knooooooooooooow

[vocal geyser]

hello my fellow balance druids
should I go 2/4 or 4/4 tier set ? for bg blitz purpose ? thxx

[late wraith]

4

[vocal geyser]

ty

[clear fox]

Just run the regular arena talents but then pick up verdancy and run like early spring the PvP talent for instant wild growths

[high tundra]

aight

is early spring bad in arenas

i feel like instant wgs could be pretty useful

[clear fox]

However I am NOT a BGB aficionado, I spend all my time in shuffle mostly

It is (if) you are playing wildstalker

Otherwise it’s not that useful usually

[high tundra]

ah i see

[clear fox]

Since wild growth can proc the blooming infusion or whatever it’s nice for wildstalker

[high tundra]

struggling with when to cast wg in arenas instead of just pressing any other hewl

heal

[clear fox]

It’s just very mana intensive overall

I have played wildstalker and the instant wild growth talent in shuffle with solid success, but in regular 3s you’d just be asking to run out of mana in like 4 ish minutes

Ancient of lore if timed properly seems to cover a lot of the huge damage windows

[high tundra]

also i have many stacks of cinder honey for pvp but its not usable in bgb or solo shuffle ffs is regular mana drink from the inn good?

[clear fox]

I don’t even know what the best water is tbh

Can’t drink in shuffle

[high tundra]

i meant is it useable

oh at all

[clear fox]

Probably for BGB

And arena

[high tundra]

aight

[clear fox]

I just used the delicious dragon spittle

[minor tartan]

should i get more than green item set before i solo que

dont wanna screw my mmr

[livid wasp]

you should probably

you are not in a hurry anyway

[random patrol]

"plays alts in lowest level of greens for shits and giggles"

mind you not until like week 14

[minor tartan]

YE I qued one game on my mage in greens

and did no dam

the mages i saw play did 1.2mil with 2melee on them

[random patrol]

dat moment when your going to repair your 10 year old coat cause your to cheap to buy a new one

[random patrol]

doing math values new ec druid does around 600-700 k more damage with lunar calling note Im taking current toon on ptr and using a calculator so will have to do tests come tuesday for real numbers

kotg still seems to pull ahead plus it has the better defensives

tldr still need to wait until tuesday for real testing

and yes I did the calculation of the treant nerf to when doing this

[livid wasp]

disgusting fotm moonkins inc I guess

[velvet quest]

thats me im rerolling

they nerfed ww and its unplayable now so im gonna play boomkin

hopefully my healer rerolls from disc to hpriest so we can play boomkin/boomkin/hpriest the goated comp

[random patrol]

boomy moving to B + from b imo maybe higher

holy priest about to be gods

[languid dock]

cant be the 1800 players rerolling every season to what they think is op and still blaming teammates

[lime light]

and dreamgrovers act like they forgot about Elpatron

[tropic schooner]

[tiny oar]

never 🙏

[minor tartan]

my mage in green items does no damage guise

halp

[tropic schooner]

Play game get items

[minor tartan]

haha but hes my fifth alt

[livid wasp]

why does snupy just do double dps 2s

empty content

[tiny oar]

prolly cuz he enjoys the game unlike u

[livid wasp]

does he tho

its his job

[lime light]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1277524486232735785.gif?size=160&quality=lossless

[late wraith]

Who?

[tropic schooner]

Zechey

keeps rerolling feral

[livid wasp]

feral since 2010 never rerolled

[harsh ore]

What in the world is this

[harsh ore]

Ok you’re the only one that would have a good opinion on this

[tropic schooner]

thats el patron

[harsh ore]

Claws of shivrala was one of the best talents ever for feral

Right Zechey?

[harsh ore]

I did forget we’re in pvp channel of Druid discord

Degeneration originated here historians say

[tropic schooner]

true

[lime light]

@harsh ore i dont know if thats the bear or monkey

i think its monkey

cuz the tail is weird

bears dont have those

[stray sigil]

ep

[livid wasp]

I only played claws of shirvallah as a worgen druid cause it was cool

tauren was ugly so I just played the shitty bloodtalons

[random patrol]

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[harsh ore]

hmmm

maybe you do deserve to be punished

[livid wasp]

I didnt play arenas just bgs anyway

so didnt matter that much

[tropic schooner]

absolutely deserving

poor cows

[wintry jackal]

2s is just as memey as shuffle and it can be fun

Just a bit slower

No point to push shuffle or 2s but play if you enjoy it

[livid wasp]

I wish I enjoyed this game

[wintry jackal]

Bro genuinely if you don’t have fun anymore why play?

It’s okay to take a break

Do other hobbies

Games are meant to be fun

[livid wasp]

there are no other hobbies

[late wraith]

Crocheting

[tiny oar]

have u tried meditating in nature or going for a nice walk or learning a new art

[livid wasp]

I run already but its just a few hours a week

[chrome panther]

take up dirt biking

[livid wasp]

looks like a good way to break a leg

[chrome panther]

5 years no serious injuries but

id rather break a leg then break my mental caring about shuffle

[tiny oar]

yep yep

[stray sigil]

go to the gym every day

[livid wasp]

I would probably if I didnt have a job

[vestal citrus]

go once per week

PR every week

[stray sigil]

2 sets a week

mike mentzer style

[livid wasp]

I just do it at home

still havent found a comfortable routine

[wintry jackal]

Gym is great even with work

Also if you like to improve at wow it’s a great outlet to pivot too

[keen tiger]

Where do i find resto druid talent builds for pvp

everything is outdated that i can find

[livid wasp]

then again gym is like idk something you do then you are done and bored again

not really a hobby unless you tryhard with some bodybuilding and cba with that

[wintry jackal]

Murlok.io

[wintry jackal]

Yeah this is fair. TBH health and gym is more of a life style and it can take up more time if you’re focusing on nutrition, rest, and low intensity cardio outside the gym

Cooking goes hand in hand with gym also a fun hobby imo

[stray sigil]

na there is no better feeling

than fucking urself at the gym

[wintry jackal]

Oh no I agree

[stray sigil]

also i dont go overboard with nutrition shit

if u hae a toxic relationship with food

its kinda not fun

[wintry jackal]

Tracking macros doesn’t have to be toxic

[stray sigil]

ye im saying

if u want to eat oreos

eat oreos

just make sure u hit protein and u dont go above ur calories

dont go overboard obvoiusly

but yknow

[wintry jackal]

Depends on your goals

I think hitting carbs / fats can be important but you can fit in Oreos no problem if you’re moving enough and like you said hitting protein whatever

[livid wasp]

I honestly like running a lot more, you get to be outside and legs just move and kinda feels good

[stray sigil]

ye i mean i do gym 4x week

[wintry jackal]

Yeah move however you like, maybe just train with a goal in mind

[stray sigil]

and do cardio 4x a week

having like 2 oreos a day

not gonna kill me

[wintry jackal]

Oh 100%

[stray sigil]

and makes me not want to off myself

eating only good shit all the time

[wintry jackal]

I agree

[stray sigil]

i was getting close to 6:40/mile

but i stopped running

[livid wasp]

I dunno any stats I just run 3 times a week atm

[stray sigil]

thats good

[livid wasp]

one normal, one hard paced and one long

[stray sigil]

are u yolked my boy

[livid wasp]

should add one more but I cycle to work sometimes too so idk cba

[stray sigil]

i wanna add 1 more day

so id do 5x wek

but 1 day of pure cardio

[livid wasp]

nah im not

[stray sigil]

just likea 45mins

or something

cardio abs and then home

[livid wasp]

should be good

[keen aurora]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=w9SE5_ec_38&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE

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[late wraith]

what if i go for a single little walk

and then i come home and go phew that was so much

and i play wow

[stray sigil]

and go to bed at 6pm

i wonder whos life that could be

[twilit siren]

is there a spec that applies heal absorb need to test a frame

[stray sigil]

uhdk

[random patrol]

@stray sigil bed at 6 up at 2

[stray sigil]

real

[winter pollen]

wild stalker or keeper of the grove for blitz? feeling like the extra mastery might be king now that its buffed

[vestal citrus]

u want one bro

push pull legs arms is a banger

depends how many days u go tho

[minor tartan]

ANYONE HAVE link to mave disc

mage

[livid wasp]

I also would like to share a few words with them

[minor tartan]

played some mlx on my frost mage yesterday and it was free as hell haha

[fallow root]

How’s Boomy rn

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar https://x.com/dudespostingws/status/1904236348963533141?s=46&t=68bCkRlgrZvQ7iKaa5Kn5g

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Bro is a legend

X · Mar 24, 2025, 6:18 PM

[clear pulsar]

Living the dream

What a legend

[stray sigil]

ur lioving the dream

[livid wasp]

fake wrestling why arent they beating each other with chairs

[livid wasp]

boomy is so freaking broken

insane dmg in blitz

and it gets buffed

makes no sense

[stray sigil]

its real

nobody knows why blissard loves boomy outlul so much

but they do

[livid wasp]

cant even win a blitz

lifes so boring

[stray sigil]

why are u qing blitz though

is the bigger question

[livid wasp]

cause I wanna win

[velvet quest]

You want to win so you play the game mode where u have the least agency

Actually you could be queueing epic bgs

[stray sigil]

i love epic beejers

[velvet quest]

Zone in tab out 1v1 someone tab out again repeat until it’s over queue again

I love afk in bgs

[late wraith]

die mad

💅

[stray sigil]

beavs will still say boomy is not meta

[late wraith]

if it's meta i'll say it's meta

[chrome panther]

meta in bgb poggers

[stray sigil]

was meta last ssn but u said it wasnt

[late wraith]

show me the receipts

[stray sigil]

we hada whole argument where u said theres only 3 boomies in top 10 cant be meta

PIG GRANN FUCK

[late wraith]

no show me how they were meta

last season

i want to see the proof of boomy being meta in s1 tww

[stray sigil]

[random patrol]

I can do 3 billion and be 0-15 in blitz starfall ftw

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[late wraith]

you're going to give zechey an aneurism

[random patrol]

lit did 2.1 billion in green gear time to play some resto druid in shuffle to

[stray sigil]

theres aboomy

in shuffle

hes a backpeddler

and hes 2.4

[late wraith]

this season?

[stray sigil]

yes

[late wraith]

this is season 2 of tww

[stray sigil]

ive ran into him

[late wraith]

not season 1

[stray sigil]

doesnt matter

he was prob 2.4 last ssn

backpeddling

and the season before

[late wraith]

yeah so i asked for proof that boomy was meta in s1

[stray sigil]

if he can get it

means its meta

its real

drufang if ur in here

unbind S

u complete freak

[random patrol]

boomy prob going to be fine in arena it's def maybe a prob in blitz

[stray sigil]

0 shot its fine in 3s

[random patrol]

but like starfall best pad ever

[stray sigil]

they didnt nerf outlaw

and mega buffed boomy

its gg

also sub also playable

turbo gg for the ladder agane

boring ass comp

[random patrol]

the meme abillity of the bad hero class yeah

[late wraith]

🥱

[random patrol]

if its actually op it will be nerfed again

[late wraith]

i'm busy fuji i gotta work

[stray sigil]

doesnt matter what hero u play

u do the same thing

kidney incar

reset dr

kidney incarn

bomb

cuz no trinket cuz holocaust 1st go

[random patrol]

good think blitz and shuffle don't matter

[stray sigil]

POGGERS

[random patrol]

but yeah

prob op

[stray sigil]

thats in 3s though

[random patrol]

3s is great when you have peeps

[stray sigil]

all u need is a good dog

(rogue)

to cc on ur incarn

g

g

[random patrol]

I have a ret pal

[stray sigil]

hmm

HOJ INCARN

[random patrol]

ret boomy disc

[stray sigil]

NO COUNTERPLAYT

[chrome panther]

https://tenor.com/view/boomkin-dance-keule-druide-gif-26294211

[random patrol]

eh

no ms

lit trash

disc priest drs my clones

[stray sigil]

7pm just say ur in bed liar pig

ret needs ms

unplayable

[random patrol]

ret lit trash yeah

[stray sigil]

lvladen was right

[random patrol]

anyone qing this early in the season is either super good and already high rated or is addicted and prob should quit until week 20 plus

[stray sigil]

[random patrol]

I haven't even qd rated yet I just do semi afk crate farming then log off for the week

[stray sigil]

almost got 2.4 week one then did a @clear pulsar nosedive to 2.2

now im 2359

[random patrol]

always fun then you end a round at XX99

best feeling ever

whelp time to go to bed I need to be up at 2 for breakfast

[livid wasp]

3 losses in a row

so stupid

why cant I win

why did they add this gamemoe

its so tilting

how do you even queue this game and face losses all night

and then go to sleep happily

how does someone even do that

[velvet quest]

i simply win instead of losing

[livid wasp]

I wonder what its like

being able to live a life doing activities where you dont lose

[late wraith]

every day i wake up and log on and win games

[wintry jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-ross-i-dont-take-losses-no-losses-no-losing-win-gif-9427453

https://tenor.com/view/im-the-best-racer-fox-sports-gif-5943746

[random patrol]

drugs

lots and lots of drugs

well and I have fun even loosing

[livid wasp]

no drugs or alcohol ofc

youre just cheating if you use them

[clear fox]

At least it’s not 2399

[stray sigil]

[tiny oar]

im living it rn its pretty serene

[random patrol]

we should bring back dinosaurs using croc and bird dna to make up the holes in their genetic code and make a theme park what could go wrong? @tiny oar

[tiny oar]

yea I ship it, screw it, it'll be fine I'm sure

[livid wasp]

boomkins are going to be the most broken thing ever

im scared I will be banned for griefing if I queue bgb as feral

[tropic schooner]

lol

[marsh heron]

So is the - 16% burst will affect alots of our kill potentiel in arena?

On boomie

[empty thicket]

some big brain druid can explain to me how tick ratio modifiers work with each other?

such as Forest Guardian + Liveliness + Flourish + Invigorate?

[late wraith]

I need you all to start showing your math. -16%???

[tropic schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/big-shaq-mans-not-hot-math-gif-10285836

[marsh heron]

Dmg from grove tree was 8% each tree you had 4 now its 4% each before was 8%×4 = 32% MORE DMG in burst now its 4x4%$ 16% so 32%/2 = 16% less

[tropic schooner]

while I dont even know what else is done that is already wrong

even if I assume all your numbers are correct

[late wraith]

Your trees are not up 100% of the time. They aren’t even up for the full duration of incarn. Now factor in that our baseline abilities are getting a buff

[tropic schooner]

tbf they talked about burst

(not that the math is correct to begin with)

[late wraith]

Our burst is incarn

[tropic schooner]

true but I think talking about treant

• incarn as main burst is fair

I wanna focus on the 16% less dmg being wrong in itself tho

[late wraith]

Yeah but people are being deranged about that.

[tropic schooner]

yes

[marsh heron]

I mean my kill potential was when tree was up

[late wraith]

If you say so

[marsh heron]

(Im 2350 in 2 rn)

Was wondering what u Guy think about it

[late wraith]

(That doesn’t mean your math makes sense)

[marsh heron]

4 % increase dmg for each trent instead of 8%

[tropic schooner]

yes thats not 16

% nerf

[marsh heron]

Its each

So 8 x 4 = 32

[tropic schooner]

yes

[marsh heron]

Now do 4x 4

[tropic schooner]

and that is not 16% nerf

yep

I think its around 12

[marsh heron]

32 / 2

[tropic schooner]

but didnt math it out

too lazy

[marsh heron]

16

You have 16% less increase burst

[tropic schooner]

no

[marsh heron]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-the-head-oh-no-the-naked-gun-leslie-nielsen-facepalm-gif-14881869

[tropic schooner]

you are quite confidently wrong

replace the numbers with 100 and 200% buffs

and then say your burst is reduced by 100%

[marsh heron]

If i had 32% dmg increase and now i have 16% increase i lose à 16% multiplier to my burst

[tropic schooner]

a 16% adidtive multiplier

sure

seems very weird to talk that way tho

[marsh heron]

Duh

[tropic schooner]

most people assume that youd do 16% less dmg when you say you lose 16% in burst

[marsh heron]

If you want they reduce our tree bust by 50%

[tropic schooner]

but i guess if you dont mean that you could be correct

[marsh heron]

Our dps will deff be way higer after this patch but we lose burst one shot

[late wraith]

They are doing that much to overall buffed abilities. You’re looking at those numbers in isolation without considering that we get an overall buff

[marsh heron]

Still lose alots of ko potential

[late wraith]

In 2s dampening I highly doubt you’re going to feel a negative impact when you’re putting much more overall pressure out all game yeah?

[wintry jackal]

Enten when can we spriest feral

[late wraith]

He’s in eu it was never meant to be

[tropic schooner]

playing splay in cata

if you want deflated arena play cata we are like top 500 at 1900

and facing bunch of literal multi r1 players

[minor tartan]

is boomie frost mage baller status

[stray sigil]

anything with frost mage is def not baller status

[minor tartan]

why not

[wintry jackal]

Arcane is stronger rn I think

[minor tartan]

frost demo mlx might be baller status

[stray sigil]

cuz mage is absolutely not baller

cringe class

[young drum]

Hey, I've been leveling a bunch of healers, and Druid is next on my list.

I'm curious, why is it that RDruid has such abysmal representation in Blitz. Especially seeing as they got almost no buffs today, with the other healers.

[minor tartan]

dh is cringe

[chrome panther]

goes oom while other healers have 80% mana

also flops insta if caught out of position

[young drum]

Ah

[chrome panther]

anytime i so much as touch an rdruid on my warrior it dies in 3 globals

[young drum]

Gotcha. Thank you. Maybe I'll just stick to my MW, for now.

[tropic schooner]

I know from a very trustworthy source that rdruid is insanly broken

[chrome panther]

maybe if ur mmarkers

[late wraith]

Fuji did you read that boomy burst is super nerfed

[harsh ore]

I lied

[tropic schooner]

I said trustworthy

[harsh ore]

Yes, thank you for the compliment

[stray sigil]

[stray sigil]

rdru with 4p

is def very very good

[chrome panther]

not seeing it at my piss mmr but

[forest kite]

Any high xp feral streamers?

other than Snupy?

[random patrol]

testing on training dummy with kotg and ec

kotg seems fine

and yes the pvp nerf works when your on the training dummy I checked

1.2 mill wrath nice

[chrome panther]

did the dot buff go through

some stuff, like hunter changes or mw dmg nerf, didnt

[random patrol]

seems like it did but minor as f

better then before

1.9 starfires as ec and 1.2 mill wraths as kotg

[chrome panther]

yeah we're seeing 8mil starfires in pve rn

just another 60% modifier tacked onto lunar calling it'll be fine

[random patrol]

funny part is if it's good in pvp it will be giga nerfed again

also new discord layout sucks ass

[late wraith]

the pve boomy build is miserable

not being able to go into solar eclipse is bad and nothing will change my mind on that

[chrome panther]

what you dont like this breakdown?

[late wraith]

no

[chrome panther]

[late wraith]

it is so fucking clunky to play

in aoe pulls it's obviously fun

[chrome panther]

its fine this dungeon pool

[late wraith]

then you get to the boss and are like wow i might just sit this one out

[chrome panther]

can hold woe for high movement

on some bosses

but most are just zzz afk pillar dps

[random patrol]

funny part is I tried ec in pvp a few times for meme moon builds and at least last season kotg moon builds were will better

rip flinging moons at people

[late wraith]

well yeah kotg would be better for moons as it's overall better for st and moons are extremely st. the trees would buff moons like crazy

[chrome panther]

starfire with procs up hits harder than full moon rn

atleast in pve

[late wraith]

ec is a pve aoe build until someone can show me it cranking in st which no one can yet.

[chrome panther]

idk what pvp mods are in play

[random patrol]

feels like a minus mod sep from the main thing

I can hit a 2 mill crit starfire if I get everything to like up including umbral

other wise its like 800k in incarn

now a heavy mastery build chicken with on use could be cute with ec

still think kotg is better overall

[late wraith]

if starfire ends up being super strong in pvp it'll get nerfed no question.

[random patrol]

yep

[late wraith]

right now i am saying that no shot, kotg will still be best in pvp, pve boomies will continue to run the trash build that feels like garbage.

[random patrol]

its already got some kind of minus modifier

I prefer when my spenders hit more then my builders maybe Im wierd though

[late wraith]

same lol but if it was starfire and we could hit massive instant builders and spenders we would be out of control menaces.

[random patrol]

ooh 1.8 mill wrath

go wrath

aka umbral slot machine

[finite bay]

Curious if we think the insta Moonfire procs with Lunar Calling will be enough to back melee off of us? In SS, I am just running for my life every round. Big maps I can kite hard the first round, so they learn it’s not worth chasing me, but small maps, like Sewers, is just cancer. Also, how does frenzied regen feel now?

Also, once we get 4 set, Starsurge seems like it will hit like a semi truck on roids. Anybody been lucky enough to test this out yet?

[random patrol]

kotg still the play I think ec even against double melee is kind of meh but that's me thankfully double melee only a thing in ss really

[chrome panther]

The build feels fine and kotg is still better in raid

The spec as a whole is garbage in pve, just gameplay/feel wise.

Every bit of nuance and skill expression has been ripped out of it

[late wraith]

Yeah i did some keys on it last night and guardian is more engaging lol

[wanton ridge]

EC in keys as boomie is zzz. At least with kotg you have your tree friends and you can watch them dream burst

[chrome panther]

I'd rather press fury of elune tbh

EC has such absurd ap generation it makes mobility a breeze

[late wraith]

oxez i've had to stop being a catweaver in keys 😦

i think i could probably keep doing it with my main healer but i would need to stop greeding catweaves on huge packs which i cannot do. that's impossible.

when i hear the meow i cat form like what do i let my st rip on 1/15 mobs not happen? hello?

[stray sigil]

can we stop talking about a pig spec

[late wraith]

no

this is a fuckin

druid discord

you little worm

[young drum]

Hey, totally new to Druid. If I'm playing Feral, does Thrash belong on my bars at all? I'm seeing a bunch of my abilities "Applies Thrash bleed."

Does that make the actual Thrash button obsolete?

[chrome panther]

Don't need it on bars at all with the talent that auto applies it

[young drum]

Word, thank you.

[forest kite]

Glad xp hunter here -- LF Feral for Jungle -- cr is irrelevant, just have xp. Pref a stable team to push with. (no ego, must be able to troubleshoot mistakes)

[livid wasp]

didnt even know a talent like that existed