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clear fox
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Gone are the days where I load into shuffle with 5% Versa

clear pulsar
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Tranq easy to stop but it does chunk up hp bars tbh

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Really fast cast

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I dont know if you can spend a point on anything valuable

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Other than Tranq

clear fox
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Oh for sure running tranq as a point

clear pulsar
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Oh u just mean no immune

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Yeah yeah

clear fox
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Just without the immune

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Need Versa

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real though

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floruish for pvp?

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I dunno why I never realized

clear pulsar
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garf no shot

clear fox
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but the photo being 10%

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makes me sad

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well

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already have enough extra buttons to bind anyhow

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big tree blooms

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kick123

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surge 123

clear pulsar
clear fox
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already have wrath 123

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which ones

clear pulsar
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Uh Efflo and Wild Growth maybe

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Idr

clear fox
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probs

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gotta rebind those then too

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efflo - 6

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wild growth - SHIFT+V

clear pulsar
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Lmao

clear fox
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I dont pve

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so they like

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not real spells

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like I can hit 6 sure

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but not spam it

clear pulsar
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Oh no it's Incarn itself and Efflo

clear fox
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oh ALSO CURSED

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incarn

clear pulsar
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Blossom Burst, the direct heal, goes on Incarn keybind, that sucks hahahaha

clear fox
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shift+`

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so likeee

clear pulsar
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It's like Void Eruption

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I'm not gonna be pvping on resto druid garf

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I hate this talent

clear fox
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cant wait to mash S+`

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then just dont run it

clear pulsar
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Maybe 2x2 nocarn

clear fox
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idk

clear pulsar
clear fox
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I low key

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think the surge flourish

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might go hard af

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but I have been

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endlessly overhype

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on anything that does damage

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every time master shapeshifter gets a buff I was like

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oh yes its time

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then dream of cenarius

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and every time

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its still been trash

clear pulsar
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Dream of cenarius needs to be deleted

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Abomination

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This is the build lowkey

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Maybe swap something to lycaras meditation but idk what

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Forestwalk is so nice and hype

clear fox
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I am not maim believer

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and no frenzied

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seems WILD to me

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can maybe do maim if wildstalker

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since can generate combo points from dispel

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even with fluid form generating combo points in melee seems risky?

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vs just sending starsurge/starfire at 45

clear pulsar
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I will never

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Untalent maim

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Bless you tho live your bestt life

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You get your achieves

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I get the fun

clear fox
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It is true

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that diving in as a cat

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and hitting a maim on some poor healer

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is VERY satisfying

clear pulsar
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Triple stunning as healer is the most hype thing of all time

grand mesa
clear pulsar
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Meld rake maim bash win

clear fox
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just run

clear pulsar
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Alternatively

grand mesa
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Oh u fixed ur own shit 6 messages later

clear pulsar
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Meld rake maim get hojd lose

clear fox
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at least

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you cant get rep

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since youre a cat lmao

clear pulsar
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Pre cat a stun, proc Call, generate 4 combo points during stun

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Profit??

clear fox
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CALL?

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heart?

clear pulsar
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What else you picking

grand mesa
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They see a resto in the middle of the mix in cat form. Realize it is 2025 and not 2024. Trinket tranq doesn’t exist. Hit cat. Rdruid dies

clear pulsar
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1% healing thriving veg

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Lmao no shot

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Trash talents

clear fox
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ye why not

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tf am I gonna do with call

clear pulsar
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Maim

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Spam insane starfires

clear fox
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how I gonna live

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without

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frenzied

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run 30% versa

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nope

chrome panther
clear pulsar
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Ok how about this

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Man but then 0 damage on the starfires

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Just using starsurge for the healing amp

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Kinda lame

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Maybe boomie lycaras meditation is dead

clear fox
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I bascially

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made the same thing

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why

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other lycaras thing tho

clear pulsar
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You picked the wrong FR icon

clear pulsar
clear fox
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ye no I picked the one I wanted

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barkskin +20% healing

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feels good

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also I didnt get moonkin form

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I am just very concerend

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about deceasing randomly

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but if thats not really an issue

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def dont need all these filler defensive talents

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and its maim time

clear pulsar
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Ok I saved this as my 2x2 loadout and I will q 2x2

clear fox
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oh for 2s

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100% all that

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maim maim maim

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just shuff and 3s seems sus at times

clear pulsar
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Ben we have a serious seriousness gap here

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You are way more serious than me now that I'm resigned to my own mediocrity

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I will 100% play this garbage in shuffle if I queue it

grand mesa
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If u could build CP on cyclone

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Still

clear fox
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Man

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I hardly

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got legend this season

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I got it like last week I think

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I like didnt even play for months

grand mesa
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u didn’t play bro

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U were skiing

clear fox
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FACTS

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and I will continue to ski

clear pulsar
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Yeah you did get it

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And resto is trash

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That's pretty good

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I gave up

clear fox
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Sadge

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Just cast

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more cyclones

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and less maim

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its equally

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as satifying to me

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I cast far too many clones

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becuase it works in shuffle

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but not so much in 3s

grand mesa
clear fox
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fromcanada dosnet have kick bound

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and the man is/was r1 shuffle mage

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so likeeee

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if he dosnet kick

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we land clones

grand mesa
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Spelllock and counter spell shouldn’t be 5s lockouts or whatever insanity it is

white widget
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So most of you are nelf or atleast alliance? Sorry im new here

grand mesa
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Don’t @ me

clear fox
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I agree

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it feels

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like

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its just

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over if you get kicked with those

grand mesa
clear fox
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kick -> fresh dr fear

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its OVER

clear pulsar
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This is the 4th time you say this in 2 hours

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Shadowmeld is great. Tons of people dont play night elf.

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Pick your race for your reasons and live with it

clear fox
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Meld is best overall racial

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but for shuffle

white widget
clear fox
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do whatever you feel is best

grand mesa
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NE is the best

clear fox
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Meld just lets you reset combat to drink / resetalth and rake stun

grand mesa
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That’s it. But it’s not so much of a big deal that

clear fox
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but really its not going to prevent you from reaching your goals

grand mesa
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If you like the looks of other shit

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It’s gonna hold u back

clear fox
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IF YOU WANT TO PUNCH SOMEONE

late wraith
clear fox
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BE KULTIRAN

clear fox
late wraith
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Lock and mage kicks are the most brutal kicks in the game

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Yeah I know who it is

clear pulsar
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Here, put a number to it, night elf is worth 40 rating

late wraith
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it’s a 5 second lockout like what.

clear pulsar
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@white widget

white widget
clear pulsar
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There's nothing inherently good about alliance either

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It's just... 1 racial

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2nd most popular is orc

clear fox
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just cast more

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clonessss

late wraith
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This is actually fucking with me like wdym they don’t have it on their bars what

white widget
clear pulsar
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Idk but I'm gonna eat you

clear fox
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no he kicks

grand mesa
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please don’t threaten him with a good time

clear fox
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just like

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dosnet as well as other people at the mmr

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maybe?

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sleepi and from canada def kick

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I can confirm

white widget
clear fox
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sleepi on shaman kicked so much was annoying

late wraith
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So wdym it’s not on their bars they just don’t see the icon but they have it bound?

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That’s less egregious I guess but dunno how they see the cd

clear fox
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way less deep that that I think

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was just saying

white widget
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Speaking of sleep im gonna sleep on my decision. Might even roll a warr

clear fox
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they miss a lot of kicks I think? @grand mesa

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you were there

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I dont know the context of the twitch chat

late wraith
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Oh he’s like joking about it

clear fox
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ye ye

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I think

late wraith
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Jesus Christ

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I’m going back to sleep

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Night dg see you in a week

grand mesa
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Warr won’t stay like this

chrome panther
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It will

tepid spoke
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bru

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reforestation is dead

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8 swiftmend casts wtf

clear fox
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wat

clear pulsar
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With ancient of lore

clear fox
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WATDAF

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its like

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verdant infusion

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at that point why bother

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8!?

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I really should read more notes

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and quest text

clear pulsar
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That wasnt in notes

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It's just been that way all PTR

wanton ridge
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uh is it even written on a tooltip somewhere?

clear fox
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with reforestation deceased

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okay maybe

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we can go heart proc

wintry jackal
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New tree form looks funny af

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It’s so slow

empty thicket
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yo, any nature's swiftness macros for not wasting it while spamming?

tropic schooner
empty thicket
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by double casting it without using the first stack

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i was used to
/cast Nature's Swiftness
/cast Regrowth

tropic schooner
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ah yea I see just tried it dont think there are any macro solutions

empty thicket
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gross

tropic schooner
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seems weird that they didnt put in a cooldown

empty thicket
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castsequence doesnt feels so smooth

clear pulsar
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There's something @grand mesa

grand mesa
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There is a cast sequence macro

clear pulsar
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I've always been a feral main and never wavered @stray sigil @grand mesa

grand mesa
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That works well

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I use one

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well. Did use one

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I am a priest and never wavered

clear pulsar
grand mesa
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#showtooltip
/stopcasting
/castsequence reset=2 Nature's Swiftness, Regrowth, Regrowth

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This is what I use

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Works fine

chilly valve
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Just make sure you have a separate ns macro for the new tree form

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At least till ns tree gets nerfed

chrome panther
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if they remove ns tree its truly joever

clear pulsar
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Big dungeon doer

grand mesa
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This is his one window where he’ll know a dungeon before anyone else here does

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let him have it

late wraith
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He’s gonna know these heroic dungeons like the back of his hand

wanton ridge
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can't even do floodgate on heroic ;x their season transition is quite weird

late wraith
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He’s going to know these normal dungeons like the back of his hand

stray sigil
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im getting shittalked for doing new content

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they dont wanna see me succeed

verbal flame
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Nope

wintry jackal
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Fuji

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My OG feral friend

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Help me cook some heat up in the talents

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I’ll do the work you just review

wanton ridge
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anyone else not gaining any progress here

late wraith
wanton ridge
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i'm like 94.84% sure we could get these before season1 started at launch

late wraith
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it was a mistake

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they undid a bunch of it

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they also let us get bloody tokens and reset those

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the s1 was actually infuriating because some people i know got it day 1 off a bug that gave them huge gains off every world quest or something i dunno. @velvet quest did it i think

wanton ridge
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yeah I got that one too I think lol

late wraith
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yeah i hate that

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i hate that for me

late wraith
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HUH

wanton ridge
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someone in the zone told me to "keep clicking it" when i asked if anyone else had that bug. Was wondering wtf they were on. Turns out they thought i was doing the mini-putt thing

velvet quest
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i was the victim of bugs i never exploited

late wraith
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THE VICTIM

wanton ridge
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I like watching goblin bike gangs just ride in the zone

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hopefully we can make bike gangs in our instanced housing zones

wintry jackal
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Pls I need someone smart to theorycraft w

late wraith
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so you asked

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fuji

wintry jackal
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I also asked zechey

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But he was out of the house

late wraith
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ask axtin

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be brave

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i'd do it but i'm busy

stray sigil
livid wasp
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I am not a smart man

wintry jackal
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I did but I bug axtin too much lol

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i'm thinking something like this and maybe drop decurse for lycara's meditation when it's not needed

livid wasp
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I like vortex

wintry jackal
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swap based on comp

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yea

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zechey do you run double rake and pw?

livid wasp
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just pw

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and idk if I should even

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hate the low duration rips

wintry jackal
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it's good into bm and other cleave comps

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double rake is nice for double stun

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do you take another node of tireless energy or merciless claws?

livid wasp
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I have both

wintry jackal
livid wasp
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yeah I have same ones but no double rake

wintry jackal
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give it a try sometime it's nice against 2 melee

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meld stun both

stray sigil
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30s off for a point

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seems not super worth imo

wintry jackal
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yeah was wondering about that

stray sigil
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id grab the lycara thing or maybe innervate in 3s over that

wintry jackal
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lycara with ursine seems nice

stray sigil
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the like keep stats after 5s

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prob better than 30s off whi ye

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innervate could be big for 3s now that u can get it pretty easily

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but mayb im fried who nose

wintry jackal
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nah i agree

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this is mid right

stray sigil
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thats way too deep

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thats 2 more points

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would u remove whi entirely then

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ig ?

wintry jackal
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yea against non burst

stray sigil
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idk like upkeepin that b uff

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would eat a lot of globals

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but maybe

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and like if u root

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u get no value out of the node either

wintry jackal
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yeah thats my prob

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root is usally just better

livid wasp
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so dh immune to cc when charging hunt now

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and hitting them doesnt disable eye

livid wasp
tropic schooner
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did you flame again?!

grand mesa
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This lacks context

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What did you say first

tropic schooner
livid wasp
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my opinion about prot warr abusers

wintry jackal
clear pulsar
livid wasp
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like df season 1 rets

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maybe its a prot warr every lobby kinda season

late wraith
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It’s a nothing season still because tuning has not happened and the season hasn’t started

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Stop whining at air

maiden viper
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wtf did they do to rdruid? I have to cast ToL or waste NS charges, weaving moonkin for mastery buff and casting starsurge to make hots tick faster, and no tranq immunity?

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I have very strong opinions 1 day into the new patch

chrome panther
wintry jackal
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@stray sigil what comps does ww work with in 3s

clear pulsar
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Now it's different garbage

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Bless up gl on your queues

maiden viper
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haha ❤️

tiny oar
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being a garbage spec is a mentality

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rise above, rdudus

wintry jackal
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Lake with the wisdom

late wraith
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Have you tried simply becoming the rdruid?

stray sigil
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if ww does absurd dmg prob works with every caster in game

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all depends

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cuz you have like very low utility

grand mesa
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lol

chrome panther
clear pulsar
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Main one that feels horrible is pressing Incarn on opener

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The other is I hate being tied to Photosynthesis

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The variance of coming out of 10s of CC and LB bloomed 4 times on somebody vs 0 is so stupid

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When one round it bloomed 43 times and the next round is longer but it only bloomed 26

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12% to 5% of your healing

random patrol
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ngl kind of want some sharkfin soup right now

stray sigil
wintry jackal
ionic dew
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When do we use primal wrath in SS?

livid wasp
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when there are many nearby targets

harsh ore
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is symbiotic relationship dispellable?

high tundra
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this rdruid bug is unbelievable

harsh ore
high tundra
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immunity to damage lore of ancient lmao

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ancient of lore*

harsh ore
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Ah

clear pulsar
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ALL damage?

high tundra
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yeah its bugged

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theory js that they put 200% in their programming

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instead of 20

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so its just paladin bubble

clear pulsar
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No certainly not

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The aura is -20% and there isnt anything server-side on it

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Apply Aura: Immunity - Mechanic (0)

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This may be the issue

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What the hell mechanic is (0)

late wraith
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Lol apply mechanic (false)

velvet quest
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I wanna be immune to them

grand mesa
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Just press ancient of lore

stray sigil
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just bug abuse

late wraith
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Huge challenge for mayo stop whining to prevent mechanics assignments

velvet quest
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I’m the star dps of the raid it’s not good if I do mechanics. If anything I’m being a team player by volunteering myself to not do mechanics so our whole raid does more damage

stray sigil
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always remember mayo

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ur hp is healer mechanic

velvet quest
# stray sigil real

I got a whisper from an aff lock yesterday after we lost going “if you can’t win with that broken spec now how are u gonna win when the season starts” or something like that and idk why he’d ever be calling my specs broken

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Only broken part was my slicing winds hit like 3 times instead of 8

clear pulsar
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It's cuz supatease made a video saying WW is OP

stray sigil
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ww is fine and bolonced

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slicing winds dmg but rotationally

velvet quest
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Ok but can you define rotational

stray sigil
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EVISCERATE

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sub unplayable

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buff sub

velvet quest
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I have decided as of now pugchimp is a sub rogue main

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In pve

late wraith
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What no he isn’t

stray sigil
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LMFOA

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@velvet quest

velvet quest
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She doesn’t wanna see me succeed VerySadCat

late wraith
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Also you didn’t mention that the lock was multiglad whispering people at 2.1 like I would simply delete my whole account

velvet quest
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Aff lock on sewers against people 500 exp lower doing not top dmg letting his teammate carry in a preseason game: “gotta whisper these people”

late wraith
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When nothing you did helped secure a win what else is there left to do but whisper people in the off season

velvet quest
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Hiding down below or behind a box unless I have port available to use: “gotta whisper these people gotta know how hard I shit on them”

late wraith
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I like when he told you aff is the hardest spec in the game. I would have sent him a therapy bill with your day rate if I was you

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Like yeah buddy you’re special and important and it’s hard out there

velvet quest
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Yeah I trolled him good

stray sigil
velvet quest
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He tried egoing that I couldn’t ever play aff it’s hardest spec in game and I was like buddy I’ve had success on ww dh and fury there’s no way I couldn’t pick up aff

stray sigil
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real ?

late wraith
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Saved that for use later ty

clear pulsar
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Real?

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Similar to fury dh

clear pulsar
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My pvp loadout doesnt even take incarn rn

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Dont talk to me about that goofy ass tree shit

stray sigil
harsh ore
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Soooo

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Anyone else ran out of binds

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I’m poor

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I can’t afford extra buttons

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Please reduce our class tree?

unborn knot
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do we know 100% honor wont reset next wed?

random patrol
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it never does between seasons

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only between expacs

unborn knot
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woooooop

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ait ima get farming then

wanton ridge
livid wasp
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why is prot warrior so broken

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why is this patch so shit

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cant they do anything right

stray sigil
livid wasp
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tanks shouldnt deal any damage just generate threat

wanton ridge
wanton ridge
tiny oar
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what r u playing instead

tiny oar
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saionaraa

wanton ridge
clear pulsar
tiny oar
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idk if what I'm seeing can be classified as wisdom

tiny oar
clear pulsar
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This is the most big brain spec of all time (it heals for piss and damages for less than piss)

livid wasp
clear pulsar
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Quiet feral

livid wasp
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feral got as big nerf

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as warriors

late wraith
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these nerfs are pretty big honestly

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30% demolish nerf?

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oh just final hit

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i dunno wtf that means this game has too much shit to know

livid wasp
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ive seen the prot warriors in skirms

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15% nerf meh nothing

late wraith
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you and the skirms again

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they're not making it past 1800 in solo

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you will see them for a couple days then never again

livid wasp
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I already saw one go 6-0

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and it was before buffs

late wraith
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in A SKIRM ZECHEY

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IN A PRE SEASON SKIRM

livid wasp
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it was a shuffle

late wraith
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you saw a prot warrior in a 2500 shuffle lobby during the season?

livid wasp
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yes and he went 6-0

late wraith
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sorry you saw 2 tanks

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because another one had to be there

tiny oar
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I hope pwar gets buffed so I can see zechey whine abt it all season

livid wasp
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nope

late wraith
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nope to what

livid wasp
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he was as a dps

late wraith
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so then

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not a prot warrior

livid wasp
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he was

velvet quest
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Doesn’t have to be two tanks I don’t think just prot paladins cause they count as pseudo healer

late wraith
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oh right cause they can sort of heal

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got it

livid wasp
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also saw one blood dk

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it just felt like a shittier uh/frost dk

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that you dont target

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can see all these noobs rolling tank cause they have hard time surviving in pvp

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and now they get to be broken

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as prot warriors

wanton ridge
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maybe they can just have a special queue for tanks and have 3v3 of just tanks. Call it the "we have no self-respect and we queue pvp as tank" lobby

tiny oar
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agree

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put them in the time out corner queues

livid wasp
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the fuck

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is this BM damage

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im lossing and a couple of his pets are on me and im dead

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cant even outheal

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how does a pets melee deal 300k dps

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while his dot deals the same

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a pets dot deals twice my dots dps

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I dont get it

grand mesa
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It’s preseason

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we don’t have to the gear,The HP values, or the tuning rn

clear pulsar
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Pvpers are obsessed with this gear scaling thing huh

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These numbers dont mean anything cuz we dont have s2 gear yet!!!!

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I find that rly funny

grand mesa
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trinket bonus next week will help

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the buff

livid wasp
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dunno

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theyre buffing BM too

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maybe jungle is the play

grand mesa
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But here’s the thing. Pvpers really do not test PTR. They only test expac beta. Blizzard has nothing to work with unlike m+ and raid testing during PTR. Preseason and the first few weeks of season will be first time they’re seeing pvp in the wild so just wait for tuning

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they’re already reacting to the shit they’re seeing rn. The biggest offenders

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slicing winds was doing criminal damage. Nerfed. Warriors. Nerfed. CJL. Nerfed. Overpowered barrier. Nerfed. lol

livid wasp
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nobody else has seen BM pets yet

wanton ridge
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lots of people were asking in the test channel how do any meaningful testing lol

grand mesa
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Yeah it wasn’t there this time afaik

livid wasp
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if we dont have the gear or hp values etc how do they know to nerf certain classes

wanton ridge
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🤡

livid wasp
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I dont think the gear difference makes that big a diff idk its not like its a pre-patch to some expansion

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bm pets will be ridiculous with the bm buff too

late wraith
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they know from people playing the game

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which is what we're doing

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we're in preseason and they just immediately responded to all the biggest offenders with nerfs

livid wasp
#

yes but puzzle was like we dont have the gear and hp values and stuff

late wraith
#

puzzle is just trying to stop you from whining over nothing

grand mesa
#

Idk the numbers that well. But I’m assuming that doing 639 damage with 639 health isn’t that different than 678 damage against 678 health. Maybe more vers and shit helps. I know we have vastly more inflated Stam on gear than primary stat compared to previous expacs but not sure how that trends. I think the new trinket bonus change next week helps a lot . That’s more of a @clear pulsar thing to comment.

late wraith
#

all you need to do is stop thinking it matters

livid wasp
#

I just got fucked by this hunter's Bear and I look at patch notes and I see a 10% BM buff what am I supposed to do

clear pulsar
grand mesa
#

I know pvpers say that s2 gear blah blah but idk if that’s true

late wraith
#

bb sometimes you are going to die to other classes

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that is always going to happen

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but there is no current trend of BM being huge outliers

livid wasp
#

while im behind pillar using frenzied regen spam healing myself lossing the hunter

late wraith
#

the way there was last season

random patrol
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either food poisoning or noro

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weeeeeeeeeeeeee

late wraith
#

there is evidence of fire mage, ww and arms being huge outliers and they fixed that.

grand mesa
#

I think everything Twitch clippable that was wtf is this this week

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Actually got smacked

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lol

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Maybe BM is next after its buffs next week who knows

late wraith
#

if next week they find that bm is suddenly standing out in a way that's hard to ignore, hopefully they'll get hit. like how do you expect balance to work

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do you think they just watch your games and are like damn zechey's being owned by bm

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better do something about this

livid wasp
#

no

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but I would expect them to notice it

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by other means

late wraith
#

to notice WHAT

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they notice trends

clear pulsar
#

Zechey your gripe is with your own heals doing piss

late wraith
#

they notice when a lot of people are being owned by one thing in particular not when one guy hates BM

clear pulsar
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300k dot tick is not abnormal

livid wasp
#

my heals arent pis with hotw

clear pulsar
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Especially cuz that bear is a 30% uptime thing

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It's a 30s icd on their hero talent

livid wasp
#

too bad I didnt record it, it was ridiculous

clear pulsar
#

But yeah BM being good is rly unfun

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Wcyd

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Accept your circumstances and do your best

livid wasp
#

maybe feral will be dog after the nerfs

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at least not fotm anymore

clear pulsar
#

When ppl think your spec is bis it's a lot of pressure to win tbh

livid wasp
#

yeah its easier to shit talk people when you arent playing a strong class too

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if feral is shit they wont go "says the feral"

livid wasp
late wraith
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i think the general consensus was bm is not what it was last tier

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but who knows honestly. people say so much dumb ass shit at the start of a season

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people just yap non stop about this spec being busted and that spec being nothing and then like a week later it's different so just go along for the ride.

wanton ridge
#

we call agree tho that BM always sucks to play against when its good ||(and dh and dk and evoker)||

grand mesa
#

They already smacked BM again

late wraith
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(fuck dh. fuck dk. fuck every class/spec who has wronged me personally)

grand mesa
#

atleast in pve

late wraith
#

this is my tier list.

grand mesa
#

It changed in 10 min

wanton ridge
#

DH can never be forgiven for their gushing wounds BS in bfa

wanton ridge
random patrol
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@livid wasp was born with a luck rating of F

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can confirm

stray sigil
stray sigil
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oh nvm they buffed it

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read too fast

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sadge

late wraith
#

they buffed what

clear pulsar
#

Druid

Restoration
    Fixed an issue that caused Ancient of Lore (PvP Talent) to prevent all magical effects.
    Fixed an issue that caused Cyclone to bypass Ancient of Lore's crowd control immunity.
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The biggest counter to ancient of lore was druids @high tundra

harsh ore
#

Hahahaha

grand mesa
#

NOOOOO MAN

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that was a nice thing from PTR

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AHHHHH

clear pulsar
grand mesa
#

being able to void bolt during void torrent

clear pulsar
#

Bug abuse

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You are not a real human

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Deadass

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Tsc tsc

stray sigil
#

coincidence ?

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i think not

grand mesa
#

whats the second one

stray sigil
#

priest rdru

wanton ridge
#

wtf did they do to remorseless winter, mouthbreathing dk just runs around doing 2mil dps

grand mesa
#

druid is dead to me (ask me again by .5 patch)

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i feel bad for fdk

wanton ridge
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i dont :)

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dks/dh to the bin

grand mesa
#

get their stun removed

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replaced by clearly overtuned damage ability

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damage gets nerfed

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now they have no damage no stun

#

still take infinite damage

stray sigil
wanton ridge
#

yeah thats fine, fuck dks lol

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theres classic for those

tiny oar
#

dks loser class wcyd

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buff druids

wanton ridge
#

yes

late wraith
odd timber
#

Guys how bad are the changes on the Feral ?

wintry jackal
#

wdym

odd timber
wintry jackal
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it wasn't nerfed

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at least that i saw

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yeah i'm not seeing any nerfs

wanton ridge
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5% dmg nerf during incarn and 10% bite nerf

wintry jackal
#

when

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can you link i'm not seeing any

wanton ridge
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in the class tuning post they did earlier

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its the top post on wowhead lol

wintry jackal
#

oh

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it hasn't gone live yet

stray sigil
wintry jackal
#

i think it balances out

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we just got massive buffs on the pve side

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i wouldn't doom at all

wanton ridge
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i dont think it is a cause to doom etiher

wintry jackal
#

i would doom about arms warriors

soft egret
grand mesa
soft egret
tiny oar
soft egret
#

you can tell because ebozo plays it

tiny oar
stray sigil
tiny oar
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fuji sussing cuz he knows we right

soft egret
harsh ore
clear pulsar
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Maim being the 1 thing u question here

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Really showcases the bitchassness of resto druid players smh

tiny oar
#

dont be no baby ass bear affer

random patrol
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the bathroom loves me tonight so that's a thing

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moving on

harsh ore
#

i legit just

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have no more binds

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

unborn knot
#

yo i got my answer for honor yday, but follow up question

#

im guessing that bloody tokens definitely DO reset right?

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should i spend all mine now?

tardy hare
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Ye they reset

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Atleast they did historically

livid wasp
#

ok so pillar of frost and remorseless winter = run the fuck like the wind

velvet quest
#

Dang new tech to counter fdk

tiny oar
livid wasp
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if they didnt have a million grips

velvet quest
livid wasp
#

just play monk or lock or void elf and teleport behind pillar

tiny oar
#

travel form wild charge the grip huge plays

livid wasp
#

and what about the next grip

#

how many do they have anyway

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at least 3

velvet quest
#

Next grip on you means hopefully your teammates are peeling for you since they’re not both getting gripped

livid wasp
#

talking about a 1v1

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in arena probably best to play next to a pillar and insta los him

tiny oar
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1v1

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get FUCKING SERIOUS ZECHEY CMON

velvet quest
#

Lake you don’t often 1v1 fdks?

tiny oar
tropic schooner
livid wasp
#

but in 3s doesnt it kinda fuck you up with mass grip and that thing

#

how does a priest even get out

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it forces so many defensives

keen aurora
#

Team’s gotta peel

north grove
#

yo mr fuji @stray sigil and @grand mesa pick me a class to play pvp this season
I got limited amount of time and i need to raid as feral so im considering playing another class

i need something easy and stronk
1 heal, 1 dps - i tried playing hpal after holy pala rework and it felt super weird like i dont know what im doing

grand mesa
#

what do u like to play

north grove
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my goal is to get better on pvp
i like to Q fast so picking 1 healer is important too

as heal, i played:

  • resto dudu 2.2 (max xp prob carried after 2k coz i suck, you know)
  • disc priest 1.8 (but it changed a lot and now i feel that im dumb)
  • hpala 1.8 (changed alot and im dumb)

as dps, i played:

feral 2k
unholy 1.8

---> i also like RBGs, but i feel that i need to improve on 3s tho

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sorry i said unholy 2k, its not, it was 1.8

north grove
grand mesa
#

so u like melee?

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ofc like everything can change we're preseason and tuning is gonna be volatile. but MW + WW and enh + rsham

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seems nice

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thinkpriest probably one of the best healers but spr kinda rough i think

north grove
#

do you think ele shammy is bad? rsham + ele?

clear pulsar
#

No real reason to have a 2nd character for pvp if you dont want to play a dif class

north grove
#

yea but ive been struggling with resto druid, like, cant get past 2.1k

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evokers been fire breathing away all my hots, on dampening im struggling

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disc priests doing more dmg and dispelling my hots

clear pulsar
#

Real

north grove
#

hpalas been bubblin hoj me on shuffles

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and thats all my struggling with past 2k

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and against other healers, i feel im only superior against MW and maybe holy priest, but i never see them

clear pulsar
#

I dont know post patch

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Holy priest was def as bad as rdru

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But you know, anywhere you go you're subject to tuning

fringe mulch
#

You’re unironically like 3.2k healer in blitz

#

Come to the blitz side

north grove
#

i dont know what blitz stands for?

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also i dont know if you are mocking me or not

fringe mulch
#

No im being serious lol

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Blitz is battleground blitz

clear pulsar
#

Also rdru was hardcore the worst healer in blitz

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Like inhuman amounts shit

fringe mulch
#

It’s a q’able RBG esque game mode

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8v8

clear pulsar
#

Oom in 40s every fight

grand mesa
#

Maybe they’ll cook a new build as they always do

fringe mulch
#

Ele did get fucked

grand mesa
#

But pwave change is bad

clear pulsar
grand mesa
#

Not that I feel sorry for them

north grove
clear pulsar
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In 2 weeks it'll be "we"

fringe mulch
#

Yeah first season was last season

grand mesa
#

nah I quite like my priest and enh

fringe mulch
#

There is a bit of inflation last season but it’s rated

#

A good arena player like you will literally dominate

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Q times aren’t bad

grand mesa
#

Wrong BGB spooks me I have no clue where to go

clear pulsar
#

Fuck blitz lmaooooo

grand mesa
#

I just wanna fight

north grove
#

im not really a good arena player

fringe mulch
#

BGB is kinda all about knowing where to go but you just gotta watch a couple of YouTube videos to figure it out

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Even at R1 they go wrong places all the time

fringe mulch
north grove
#

i played RBGs as guardian for a while

clear pulsar
#

@north grove imo you gotta stick to the specs you enjoy and feel good playing, and if they're weak you resign to playing just for fun

fringe mulch
#

Try blitz, can queue as tank there too

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MW healer was FC because it could port with flag but not anymore so it might be pres evoker mainly

#

Maybe r Druid can do it? Idk

clear pulsar
#

Like idk I couldnt hit 2.4 last season so I was just playing super cat stunny type and having fun in the game

north grove
#

i understand, but I think im struggling too much playing rdru, its not fun when you lose you know

im not pro player, but i want to chase higher ratings, id like to go for glad sometime

ive been playing shuffle as resto dru because i enjoyed feral but i suck on it and in the past there were no shuffles, so it was harder to get Qs

#

my guildies are PVErs

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so healer makes sense

#

fast Qs

fringe mulch
#

I mean then if you want glad easiest to do is find the meta healer

clear pulsar
#

If you're chasing fotm just level everything

#

That's what I'm saying, whatever you decide right now and go 'I'm gonna play idk shaman' is just as likely as staying druid for it to be the best spec in the role

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You either stick to something you like or you don't pick 1 thing and just level everything and try to chase fotm meta

grand mesa
#

Just simply be like me and never waver

clear pulsar
#

Puzzle has literally always been a druid priest druid priest enhance shaman

grand mesa
#

disc holy enh

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Gg

#

Druid isn’t even in the gallagio camp

clear pulsar
grand mesa
#

2 priest 2 shaman :

north grove
#

this is my pvp history

clear pulsar
#

You suck

north grove
#

D:

clear pulsar
#

LOL I mean puzzle not you br brother

fringe mulch
clear pulsar
fringe mulch
#

If you genuinely want glad, you need to build out a bnet friends list, socialize with pvpers and make sure you have a viable spec for most comps

clear pulsar
#

You just played rdru during the season where it was the worst healer in the game

fringe mulch
#

Exactly

clear pulsar
#

We're due for a bounce back anytime now

fringe mulch
#

Also how many comps did it even have?

#

If low comps, it’s hard to find any teammates

clear pulsar
#

11.1.5 is gonna go crazy for us, trust

north grove
#

so

#

i think i have adhd

#

its hard for me to learn new classes

#

playing new specs

#

i just stick with i know

#

but i can play other stuff

#

i just need more time

clear pulsar
#

🧑‍🎨

north grove
#

this is why i was considering

grand mesa
#

just play rdru imo

#

It got saved mid season DF S2

#

Maybe history repeats itself

tiny oar
#

I got glad playing w no voice lfg every day

#

never again

north grove
#

yea i never play with voice

clear pulsar
fringe mulch
#

Lake doing that quite literally might be the hardest thing in the game to do

north grove
#

only lfg pugs

tiny oar
#

idk about hardest

#

definitely tedious and time consuming

clear pulsar
#

Wrong talents

grand mesa
#

10.0

#

Tree germ budding leaves starsurge protector of the pack

#

Could have it all

clear pulsar
#

This is hyper saturated Lifebloom Photosynthesis build

#

Trust

north grove
#

No trees?

tiny oar
#

man

north grove
#

Oh nvm

clear pulsar
#

Oh swap to wild synthesis

#

I forgor

north grove
#

i got 2k on shuffle on the past 20 days using The murlok.io talents

#

But

#

I know its inflated

#

The thing is, Everyone had 15k Mastery and crafted gear

#

And i was using regular conquest gear

#

With no tierset

clear pulsar
#

Bro all this cope nonsense talk is just gonna make you more miserable over time

fringe mulch
#

As a pvp community we need to quit downplaying rating

#

2k is good

clear pulsar
#

Mastery, crafted gear, inflation

fringe mulch
#

There is like 800 people even left on the game, average players are well below 2k

north grove
#

But like, i felt the lack of mastery was making me suffer at dampening times

#

I played against evoker preservation +warlock affli and frost mage

#

It was

#

Like, even without dampening

#

I pressed my stuff

#

Double lifebloom, 1gcd regrowth on everyone

#

All hots

clear pulsar
#

The spec is just weak

#

Do your best and stop thinking about circumstance

fringe mulch
#

Bandido you play feral right

#

Think about how happy you are when you see a resto Druid on the other team lol

north grove
#

Used to, since DF s2 i havent

fringe mulch
#

If I see an enemy resto rn as feral

#

I think I’m going to chomp this motherfucker into the next dimension

#

The spec is very weak

clear pulsar
#

You wont chomp me when I'm playing 2026 build

north grove
#

U got glad this season as resto face?

clear pulsar
#

Ofc not

#

I only q shuffle

north grove
#

But got good rate?

clear pulsar
north grove
#

I know u are gucci player Just like puzzl

clear pulsar
#

Sometimes maybe good sometimes maybe shit

north grove
#

my fellow brazilian friend of the forest

#

Crafted gear, Master?

grand mesa
#

I’m not good

north grove
#

Mastery

clear pulsar
#

I'm sorry what the fuck is this

grand mesa
#

But that doesn’t stop me I just play lol

north grove
#

When i recorded my games

grand mesa
north grove
#

U gave me awesome help

clear pulsar
#

It wasnt on me

#

It was a feral

grand mesa
#

Oh life grip

clear pulsar
#

Fuck u

grand mesa
#

face do u know

#

If death is coded to break freezing trap even with damage threshold

fringe mulch
#

Also bandido if you truly want to start moving up the blitz ladder

#

Gotta start blaming ur teammates more

north grove
#

I played dota , i know thats not the path of wisdom

#

Hahahah

fringe mulch
#

You need to be crashing out 1 in 4 games
You’re not 2k, your teammates are in a cabal to keep you there
You’re a glad they’re holding back

north grove
#

When i understand my teammate hád tô peel or press buttons i know jts not my fault

#

It is what it is

#

I Just try tô see what i could have done

fringe mulch
#

I’d be glad if it wasn’t for a group of healers gang stalking me to camp my rating down so I don’t try for the AWC

#

Cr doesn’t define us

north grove
#

Do you guys know any pvp discord that People play with voice? I feel that playing with higher experienced players could help

#

I do love tô watch cdew and lontar (got this advice on this discord)

north grove
#

Hahahah

fringe mulch
#

I’m a 2k dps

#

I promise it’s not us carrying you

livid wasp
#

feral feels underwhelming

#

its not gonna be good with the nerfs

fringe mulch
#

I think they need to simplify it

#

Having AOE rip, rip, brutal slash, shred, moon fire- all just feels like they could consolidate and make it way more fun

livid wasp
#

fucking prot warr abusers

clear pulsar
#

Idk about all that

#

There are a lot of specs like that

#

Consolidating spells is turning feral into a dif spec that already exists

fringe mulch
#

I think pvp devs said themselves they want to simplify classes

clear pulsar
#

There are no pvp devs

#

And no spec is designed with pvp in mind

#

I dont think any wow spec particularly stands out in rotational complexity

fringe mulch
#

Outlaw and feral for sure

late wraith
#

The important and mysterious pvp devs

clear pulsar
#

Outlaw is pretty sick, it has very simple buttons and purely decision making based complexity

#

It'd be a shame to rework it into fury warrior

#

Idk I just dont get the whole 'gotta remove X and Y from Z" cuz it just hurts the game, losing design diversity

#

There are almost 30 dps specs, if you dont vibe with feral, find a diff one

fringe mulch
#

I think you can have a simple class with diversity

#

I think it just needs to be accessible to more players

#

Wow PvP is too hard

late wraith
#

that’s what bgs are for

clear pulsar
#

I promise you the dev team doesnt think about pvp until at least the .5 patch after design decisions go live