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Tranq easy to stop but it does chunk up hp bars tbh
Really fast cast
I dont know if you can spend a point on anything valuable
Other than Tranq
Oh for sure running tranq as a point
Just without the immune
Need Versa
real though
floruish for pvp?
I dunno why I never realized
no shot
but the photo being 10%
makes me sad
well
already have enough extra buttons to bind anyhow
big tree blooms
kick123
surge 123
They replace your existing spells
Lmao
Oh no it's Incarn itself and Efflo
Blossom Burst, the direct heal, goes on Incarn keybind, that sucks hahahaha
It's like Void Eruption
I'm not gonna be pvping on resto druid 
I hate this talent
Maybe 2x2 nocarn
idk
The spec blows, the only chance it's any better is if one of these pvp talents is secretly insane
I low key
think the surge flourish
might go hard af
but I have been
endlessly overhype
on anything that does damage
every time master shapeshifter gets a buff I was like
oh yes its time
then dream of cenarius
and every time
its still been trash
Dream of cenarius needs to be deleted
Abomination
This is the build lowkey
Maybe swap something to lycaras meditation but idk what
Forestwalk is so nice and hype
I am not maim believer
and no frenzied
seems WILD to me
can maybe do maim if wildstalker
since can generate combo points from dispel
even with fluid form generating combo points in melee seems risky?
vs just sending starsurge/starfire at 45
I will never
Untalent maim
Bless you tho live your bestt life
You get your achieves
I get the fun

It is true
that diving in as a cat
and hitting a maim on some poor healer
is VERY satisfying
Triple stunning as healer is the most hype thing of all time
Efflo and the actual incarn button itself
Meld rake maim bash win
just run
Alternatively
Oh u fixed ur own shit 6 messages later
What else you picking
They see a resto in the middle of the mix in cat form. Realize it is 2025 and not 2024. Trinket tranq doesn’t exist. Hit cat. Rdruid dies
Real, killed one in a stormbolt solo when he got horny for clones 
Ok how about this
Man but then 0 damage on the starfires
Just using starsurge for the healing amp
Kinda lame
Maybe boomie lycaras meditation is dead
You picked the wrong FR icon
Cuz mastery lycara from boomie form + free from using up instant Starfire from KOTG and fluid form
ye no I picked the one I wanted
barkskin +20% healing
feels good
also I didnt get moonkin form
I am just very concerend
about deceasing randomly
but if thats not really an issue
def dont need all these filler defensive talents
and its maim time
Ok I saved this as my 2x2 loadout and I will q 2x2
Ben we have a serious seriousness gap here
You are way more serious than me now that I'm resigned to my own mediocrity
I will 100% play this garbage in shuffle if I queue it
Man
I hardly
got legend this season
I got it like last week I think
I like didnt even play for months
Sadge
Just cast
more cyclones
and less maim
its equally
as satifying to me
I cast far too many clones
becuase it works in shuffle
but not so much in 3s

you linked the twitch chat
fromcanada dosnet have kick bound
and the man is/was r1 shuffle mage
so likeeee
if he dosnet kick
we land clones
Spelllock and counter spell shouldn’t be 5s lockouts or whatever insanity it is
So most of you are nelf or atleast alliance? Sorry im new here
Don’t @ me
Think it’s nelf for sure if u care. But ultimately probably doesn’t matter much
Brother are you AI based chat bot?

This is the 4th time you say this in 2 hours
Shadowmeld is great. Tons of people dont play night elf.
Pick your race for your reasons and live with it
Nah man i just want all the pros and cons before i commit
do whatever you feel is best
NE is the best
Meld just lets you reset combat to drink / resetalth and rake stun
That’s it. But it’s not so much of a big deal that
but really its not going to prevent you from reaching your goals
IF YOU WANT TO PUNCH SOMEONE
Sorry but what
BE KULTIRAN
its a mage
Here, put a number to it, night elf is worth 40 rating
it’s a 5 second lockout like what.
@white widget
Lol i was just admiring him rn
There's nothing inherently good about alliance either
It's just... 1 racial
2nd most popular is orc
just cast more
clonessss
This is actually fucking with me like wdym they don’t have it on their bars what
Have they stopped eating people?
no he kicks
please don’t threaten him with a good time
just like
dosnet as well as other people at the mmr
maybe?
sleepi and from canada def kick
I can confirm

sleepi on shaman kicked so much was annoying
So wdym it’s not on their bars they just don’t see the icon but they have it bound?
That’s less egregious I guess but dunno how they see the cd
Speaking of sleep im gonna sleep on my decision. Might even roll a warr
they miss a lot of kicks I think? @grand mesa
you were there
I dont know the context of the twitch chat
Oh he’s like joking about it

Warr won’t stay like this

With ancient of lore
WATDAF
its like
verdant infusion
at that point why bother
8!?
I really should read more notes
and quest text
uh is it even written on a tooltip somewhere?
yo, any nature's swiftness macros for not wasting it while spamming?
how are you wasting it?
by double casting it without using the first stack
i was used to
/cast Nature's Swiftness
/cast Regrowth
ah yea I see just tried it dont think there are any macro solutions
gross
seems weird that they didnt put in a cooldown
castsequence doesnt feels so smooth
There's something @grand mesa
There is a cast sequence macro
I've always been a feral main and never wavered @stray sigil @grand mesa
LOL
#showtooltip
/stopcasting
/castsequence reset=2 Nature's Swiftness, Regrowth, Regrowth
This is what I use
Works fine

Just make sure you have a separate ns macro for the new tree form
At least till ns tree gets nerfed
if they remove ns tree its truly joever
Big dungeon doer
This is his one window where he’ll know a dungeon before anyone else here does
let him have it
He’s gonna know these heroic dungeons like the back of his hand
can't even do floodgate on heroic ;x their season transition is quite weird
He’s going to know these normal dungeons like the back of his hand

im getting shittalked for doing new content

they dont wanna see me succeed
Nope
Fuji
My OG feral friend
Help me cook some heat up in the talents
I’ll do the work you just review
anyone else not gaining any progress here
i assume this is a season start thing yeah?
i'm like 94.84% sure we could get these before season1 started at launch
it was a mistake
they undid a bunch of it
they also let us get bloody tokens and reset those
the s1 was actually infuriating because some people i know got it day 1 off a bug that gave them huge gains off every world quest or something i dunno. @velvet quest did it i think
yeah I got that one too I think lol
HUH
HUH
someone in the zone told me to "keep clicking it" when i asked if anyone else had that bug. Was wondering wtf they were on. Turns out they thought i was doing the mini-putt thing
i was the victim of bugs i never exploited
THE VICTIM
I like watching goblin bike gangs just ride in the zone
hopefully we can make bike gangs in our instanced housing zones

Pls I need someone smart to theorycraft w

I am not a smart man
I did but I bug axtin too much lol
i'm thinking something like this and maybe drop decurse for lycara's meditation when it's not needed
I like vortex
it's good into bm and other cleave comps
double rake is nice for double stun
do you take another node of tireless energy or merciless claws?
I have both
yeah I have same ones but no double rake
id drop faster whi personally
30s off for a point
seems not super worth imo
yeah was wondering about that
id grab the lycara thing or maybe innervate in 3s over that
lycara with ursine seems nice
the like keep stats after 5s
prob better than 30s off whi ye
innervate could be big for 3s now that u can get it pretty easily
but mayb im fried who nose
yea against non burst
idk like upkeepin that b uff
would eat a lot of globals
but maybe
and like if u root
u get no value out of the node either
did you flame again?!

my opinion about prot warr abusers

Theyre 100% getting hammered next week. Their damage is absurd in pve rn.
It’s a nothing season still because tuning has not happened and the season hasn’t started
Stop whining at air
wtf did they do to rdruid? I have to cast ToL or waste NS charges, weaving moonkin for mastery buff and casting starsurge to make hots tick faster, and no tranq immunity?
I have very strong opinions 1 day into the new patch

@stray sigil what comps does ww work with in 3s
The spec was garbage last week
Now it's different garbage
Bless up gl on your queues
haha ❤️
Lake with the wisdom
Have you tried simply becoming the rdruid?
Boomy 
hard to tell
if ww does absurd dmg prob works with every caster in game
all depends
cuz you have like very low utility
pretty sure they die every 2nd go
I think it got left behind on some design changes across the board
Main one that feels horrible is pressing Incarn on opener
The other is I hate being tied to Photosynthesis
The variance of coming out of 10s of CC and LB bloomed 4 times on somebody vs 0 is so stupid
When one round it bloomed 43 times and the next round is longer but it only bloomed 26

12% to 5% of your healing



When do we use primal wrath in SS?
when there are many nearby targets
is symbiotic relationship dispellable?
this rdruid bug is unbelievable
Which?
Ah
yeah its bugged
theory js that they put 200% in their programming
instead of 20
so its just paladin bubble
No certainly not
The aura is -20% and there isnt anything server-side on it
Apply Aura: Immunity - Mechanic (0)
This may be the issue
What the hell mechanic is (0)
Lol apply mechanic (false)
This is the aura I want in raid but beavs keeps making me do mechanics
I wanna be immune to them
Just press ancient of lore
The more you whine the more you get mechanics
Huge challenge for mayo stop whining to prevent mechanics assignments
I’m the star dps of the raid it’s not good if I do mechanics. If anything I’m being a team player by volunteering myself to not do mechanics so our whole raid does more damage
real
always remember mayo
ur hp is healer mechanic
I got a whisper from an aff lock yesterday after we lost going “if you can’t win with that broken spec now how are u gonna win when the season starts” or something like that and idk why he’d ever be calling my specs broken
Only broken part was my slicing winds hit like 3 times instead of 8
It's cuz supatease made a video saying WW is OP
ww is fine and bolonced
@clear pulsar @velvet quest https://x.com/bigmoranx/status/1894884487353508250?s=46&t=68bCkRlgrZvQ7iKaa5Kn5g
slicing winds dmg but rotationally

Ok but can you define rotational
What no he isn’t
She doesn’t wanna see me succeed 
Also you didn’t mention that the lock was multiglad whispering people at 2.1 like I would simply delete my whole account
Aff lock on sewers against people 500 exp lower doing not top dmg letting his teammate carry in a preseason game: “gotta whisper these people”
When nothing you did helped secure a win what else is there left to do but whisper people in the off season
Hiding down below or behind a box unless I have port available to use: “gotta whisper these people gotta know how hard I shit on them”
I like when he told you aff is the hardest spec in the game. I would have sent him a therapy bill with your day rate if I was you
Like yeah buddy you’re special and important and it’s hard out there
Yeah I trolled him good
every caster is the hardest spec in the game
He tried egoing that I couldn’t ever play aff it’s hardest spec in game and I was like buddy I’ve had success on ww dh and fury there’s no way I couldn’t pick up aff
real ?
Saved that for use later ty
Next time add fdk to the list
Real?
Similar to fury dh
My pvp loadout doesnt even take incarn rn
Dont talk to me about that goofy ass tree shit

Soooo
Anyone else ran out of binds
I’m poor
I can’t afford extra buttons
Please reduce our class tree?
do we know 100% honor wont reset next wed?
for the tour of duty thing in undermine, it was not a season thing. Turns out, I was honor capped, and the achievement requires you to earn honor :-)
HAHAHAHAH OH SHIT
why is prot warrior so broken
why is this patch so shit
cant they do anything right

tanks shouldnt deal any damage just generate threat
:')
they tried that last season for pve and every tank quit
dude what
what r u playing instead

good fuck em
saionaraa

Dont question the wisdom
uhhhh
idk if what I'm seeing can be classified as wisdom
holy fuck no more sunfire aoe node???&
This is the most big brain spec of all time (it heals for piss and damages for less than piss)
they always do these little ass nerfs
Quiet feral
these nerfs are pretty big honestly
30% demolish nerf?
oh just final hit
i dunno wtf that means this game has too much shit to know
you and the skirms again
they're not making it past 1800 in solo
you will see them for a couple days then never again
it was a shuffle
you saw a prot warrior in a 2500 shuffle lobby during the season?
yes and he went 6-0
I hope pwar gets buffed so I can see zechey whine abt it all season
nope
nope to what
he was as a dps
he was
Doesn’t have to be two tanks I don’t think just prot paladins cause they count as pseudo healer
also saw one blood dk
it just felt like a shittier uh/frost dk
that you dont target
can see all these noobs rolling tank cause they have hard time surviving in pvp
and now they get to be broken
as prot warriors
maybe they can just have a special queue for tanks and have 3v3 of just tanks. Call it the "we have no self-respect and we queue pvp as tank" lobby
the fuck
is this BM damage
im lossing and a couple of his pets are on me and im dead
cant even outheal
how does a pets melee deal 300k dps
while his dot deals the same
a pets dot deals twice my dots dps
I dont get it
What don’t u get
It’s preseason
we don’t have to the gear,The HP values, or the tuning rn
Pvpers are obsessed with this gear scaling thing huh

These numbers dont mean anything cuz we dont have s2 gear yet!!!!
I find that rly funny
But here’s the thing. Pvpers really do not test PTR. They only test expac beta. Blizzard has nothing to work with unlike m+ and raid testing during PTR. Preseason and the first few weeks of season will be first time they’re seeing pvp in the wild so just wait for tuning
they’re already reacting to the shit they’re seeing rn. The biggest offenders
slicing winds was doing criminal damage. Nerfed. Warriors. Nerfed. CJL. Nerfed. Overpowered barrier. Nerfed. lol
nobody else has seen BM pets yet
when I checked there wasn't any s2 pvp gear to test on ptr? unless i didnt check fully
lots of people were asking in the test channel how do any meaningful testing lol
Yeah it wasn’t there this time afaik
if we dont have the gear or hp values etc how do they know to nerf certain classes
🤡
I dont think the gear difference makes that big a diff idk its not like its a pre-patch to some expansion
bm pets will be ridiculous with the bm buff too
they know from people playing the game
which is what we're doing
we're in preseason and they just immediately responded to all the biggest offenders with nerfs
yes but puzzle was like we dont have the gear and hp values and stuff
puzzle is just trying to stop you from whining over nothing
Idk the numbers that well. But I’m assuming that doing 639 damage with 639 health isn’t that different than 678 damage against 678 health. Maybe more vers and shit helps. I know we have vastly more inflated Stam on gear than primary stat compared to previous expacs but not sure how that trends. I think the new trinket bonus change next week helps a lot . That’s more of a @clear pulsar thing to comment.
all you need to do is stop thinking it matters
P much 😂
I just got fucked by this hunter's Bear and I look at patch notes and I see a 10% BM buff what am I supposed to do
It went up like 3 days before patch
I know pvpers say that s2 gear blah blah but idk if that’s true
bb sometimes you are going to die to other classes
that is always going to happen
but there is no current trend of BM being huge outliers
while im behind pillar using frenzied regen spam healing myself lossing the hunter
the way there was last season
there is evidence of fire mage, ww and arms being huge outliers and they fixed that.
I think everything Twitch clippable that was wtf is this this week
Actually got smacked
lol
Maybe BM is next after its buffs next week who knows
if next week they find that bm is suddenly standing out in a way that's hard to ignore, hopefully they'll get hit. like how do you expect balance to work
do you think they just watch your games and are like damn zechey's being owned by bm
better do something about this
Zechey your gripe is with your own heals doing piss
they notice when a lot of people are being owned by one thing in particular not when one guy hates BM
300k dot tick is not abnormal
my heals arent pis with hotw
too bad I didnt record it, it was ridiculous
But yeah BM being good is rly unfun
Wcyd
Accept your circumstances and do your best
When ppl think your spec is bis it's a lot of pressure to win tbh
yeah its easier to shit talk people when you arent playing a strong class too
if feral is shit they wont go "says the feral"
you are so unlucky with stuff
i think the general consensus was bm is not what it was last tier
but who knows honestly. people say so much dumb ass shit at the start of a season
people just yap non stop about this spec being busted and that spec being nothing and then like a week later it's different so just go along for the ride.
we call agree tho that BM always sucks to play against when its good ||(and dh and dk and evoker)||
They already smacked BM again
(fuck dh. fuck dk. fuck every class/spec who has wronged me personally)
atleast in pve
this is my tier list.
DH can never be forgiven for their gushing wounds BS in bfa
ran keys with BM hunters on ptr, their tier set was their first damage by a mile, it was a bit dumb lol
fuck boomy

oh nvm they buffed it
read too fast
sadge
they buffed what
Druid
Restoration
Fixed an issue that caused Ancient of Lore (PvP Talent) to prevent all magical effects.
Fixed an issue that caused Cyclone to bypass Ancient of Lore's crowd control immunity.
The biggest counter to ancient of lore was druids @high tundra
Hahahaha

whats the second one
wtf did they do to remorseless winter, mouthbreathing dk just runs around doing 2mil dps
get their stun removed
replaced by clearly overtuned damage ability
damage gets nerfed
now they have no damage no stun

still take infinite damage

yes
Truuuuue
Guys how bad are the changes on the Feral ?
wdym
Feral PVP nerfed , how bad is it if u have an idea
5% dmg nerf during incarn and 10% bite nerf

i think it balances out
we just got massive buffs on the pve side
i wouldn't doom at all
i dont think it is a cause to doom etiher
i would doom about arms warriors
was so nice man why the fuck do they hate fun

true and real
🤝
you can tell because ebozo plays it
v true v true

fuji sussing cuz he knows we right

...m....maim?
Maim being the 1 thing u question here
Really showcases the bitchassness of resto druid players smh
yo i got my answer for honor yday, but follow up question
im guessing that bloody tokens definitely DO reset right?
should i spend all mine now?
ok so pillar of frost and remorseless winter = run the fuck like the wind
Dang new tech to counter fdk

if they didnt have a million grips
Just simply get out of melee range haha don’t sass me
just play monk or lock or void elf and teleport behind pillar
ye I'm more confused by zechey not knowing that already
travel form wild charge the grip huge plays
Next grip on you means hopefully your teammates are peeling for you since they’re not both getting gripped
talking about a 1v1
in arena probably best to play next to a pillar and insta los him
Lake you don’t often 1v1 fdks?

??? The most serious of competitions
but in 3s doesnt it kinda fuck you up with mass grip and that thing
how does a priest even get out
it forces so many defensives
Team’s gotta peel
yo mr fuji @stray sigil and @grand mesa pick me a class to play pvp this season
I got limited amount of time and i need to raid as feral so im considering playing another class
i need something easy and stronk
1 heal, 1 dps - i tried playing hpal after holy pala rework and it felt super weird like i dont know what im doing
what do u like to play
my goal is to get better on pvp
i like to Q fast so picking 1 healer is important too
as heal, i played:
- resto dudu 2.2 (max xp prob carried after 2k coz i suck, you know)
- disc priest 1.8 (but it changed a lot and now i feel that im dumb)
- hpala 1.8 (changed alot and im dumb)
as dps, i played:
feral 2k
unholy 1.8
---> i also like RBGs, but i feel that i need to improve on 3s tho
sorry i said unholy 2k, its not, it was 1.8
any ideas?
so u like melee?
ofc like everything can change we're preseason and tuning is gonna be volatile. but MW + WW and enh + rsham
seems nice
thinkpriest probably one of the best healers but spr kinda rough i think
do you think ele shammy is bad? rsham + ele?
There's almost no friction in gearing for pvp and pve anymore
No real reason to have a 2nd character for pvp if you dont want to play a dif class
yea but ive been struggling with resto druid, like, cant get past 2.1k
evokers been fire breathing away all my hots, on dampening im struggling
disc priests doing more dmg and dispelling my hots
hpalas been bubblin hoj me on shuffles
and thats all my struggling with past 2k
and against other healers, i feel im only superior against MW and maybe holy priest, but i never see them
I dont know post patch
Holy priest was def as bad as rdru
But you know, anywhere you go you're subject to tuning
If ur a 2k shuffle healer
You’re unironically like 3.2k healer in blitz
Come to the blitz side
Oom in 40s every fight
Ele got fucked
Maybe they’ll cook a new build as they always do
Ele did get fucked
But pwave change is bad
Ofc when they get dunked it's "they"
Not that I feel sorry for them
but its rated?
In 2 weeks it'll be "we"
Yeah first season was last season
nah I quite like my priest and enh
There is a bit of inflation last season but it’s rated
A good arena player like you will literally dominate
Q times aren’t bad
Wrong BGB spooks me I have no clue where to go
Fuck blitz lmaooooo
I just wanna fight
im not really a good arena player
BGB is kinda all about knowing where to go but you just gotta watch a couple of YouTube videos to figure it out
Even at R1 they go wrong places all the time
Ur 2.1k in shuffle, you’re like the .5% of best healers in the game
i played RBGs as guardian for a while
@north grove imo you gotta stick to the specs you enjoy and feel good playing, and if they're weak you resign to playing just for fun
Try blitz, can queue as tank there too
MW healer was FC because it could port with flag but not anymore so it might be pres evoker mainly
Maybe r Druid can do it? Idk
Like idk I couldnt hit 2.4 last season so I was just playing super cat stunny type and having fun in the game
i understand, but I think im struggling too much playing rdru, its not fun when you lose you know
im not pro player, but i want to chase higher ratings, id like to go for glad sometime
ive been playing shuffle as resto dru because i enjoyed feral but i suck on it and in the past there were no shuffles, so it was harder to get Qs
my guildies are PVErs
so healer makes sense
fast Qs
I mean then if you want glad easiest to do is find the meta healer
If you're chasing fotm just level everything
That's what I'm saying, whatever you decide right now and go 'I'm gonna play idk shaman' is just as likely as staying druid for it to be the best spec in the role
You either stick to something you like or you don't pick 1 thing and just level everything and try to chase fotm meta
Just simply be like me and never waver
Puzzle has literally always been a druid priest druid priest enhance shaman

this is my pvp history
You suck
D:
LOL I mean puzzle not you br brother
Dude you’re very good
Glad is about finding consistent teammates while playing meta specs
So you're just staying level? The way you talked I thought you were like stuck below where you got in the past
If you genuinely want glad, you need to build out a bnet friends list, socialize with pvpers and make sure you have a viable spec for most comps
You just played rdru during the season where it was the worst healer in the game
Exactly
Also how many comps did it even have?
If low comps, it’s hard to find any teammates
11.1.5 is gonna go crazy for us, trust
so
i think i have adhd
its hard for me to learn new classes
playing new specs
i just stick with i know
but i can play other stuff
i just need more time
🧑🎨
this is why i was considering
yea i never play with voice
I miss DF s1 everyday of my life
Lake doing that quite literally might be the hardest thing in the game to do
only lfg pugs
Play my build and enjoy the climb backwards
Wrong talents
That was the best version of druid I played post DF imo
10.0
Tree germ budding leaves starsurge protector of the pack
Could have it all
No trees?
man
Oh nvm
i got 2k on shuffle on the past 20 days using The murlok.io talents
But
I know its inflated
The thing is, Everyone had 15k Mastery and crafted gear
And i was using regular conquest gear
With no tierset
Bro all this cope nonsense talk is just gonna make you more miserable over time
Mastery, crafted gear, inflation
There is like 800 people even left on the game, average players are well below 2k
But like, i felt the lack of mastery was making me suffer at dampening times
I played against evoker preservation +warlock affli and frost mage
It was
Like, even without dampening
I pressed my stuff
Double lifebloom, 1gcd regrowth on everyone
All hots
Bandido you play feral right
Think about how happy you are when you see a resto Druid on the other team lol
Used to, since DF s2 i havent
If I see an enemy resto rn as feral
I think I’m going to chomp this motherfucker into the next dimension
The spec is very weak
U got glad this season as resto face?
But got good rate?

I know u are gucci player Just like puzzl
Sometimes maybe good sometimes maybe shit
I’m not good
Mastery
I'm sorry what the fuck is this
But that doesn’t stop me I just play lol
When i recorded my games
Just walk away from the fdk
U gave me awesome help
Oh life grip
Also bandido if you truly want to start moving up the blitz ladder
Gotta start blaming ur teammates more
You need to be crashing out 1 in 4 games
You’re not 2k, your teammates are in a cabal to keep you there
You’re a glad they’re holding back
When i understand my teammate hád tô peel or press buttons i know jts not my fault
It is what it is
I Just try tô see what i could have done
I’d be glad if it wasn’t for a group of healers gang stalking me to camp my rating down so I don’t try for the AWC
Cr doesn’t define us
Do you guys know any pvp discord that People play with voice? I feel that playing with higher experienced players could help
I do love tô watch cdew and lontar (got this advice on this discord)
Or maybe im 2k because the DPS are doing a great job carrying me
Hahahah
I think they need to simplify it
Having AOE rip, rip, brutal slash, shred, moon fire- all just feels like they could consolidate and make it way more fun
fucking prot warr abusers
Idk about all that
There are a lot of specs like that
Consolidating spells is turning feral into a dif spec that already exists
I think pvp devs said themselves they want to simplify classes
There are no pvp devs
And no spec is designed with pvp in mind
I dont think any wow spec particularly stands out in rotational complexity
Outlaw and feral for sure
The important and mysterious pvp devs
Outlaw is pretty sick, it has very simple buttons and purely decision making based complexity
It'd be a shame to rework it into fury warrior
Idk I just dont get the whole 'gotta remove X and Y from Z" cuz it just hurts the game, losing design diversity
There are almost 30 dps specs, if you dont vibe with feral, find a diff one
I think you can have a simple class with diversity
I think it just needs to be accessible to more players
Wow PvP is too hard
that’s what bgs are for
I promise you the dev team doesnt think about pvp until at least the .5 patch after design decisions go live








