pvp

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

Imagine the awareness to recognize Fuji pressed xuen and melded

[stray sigil]

its a trick question

ww is garbage

so he doesnt have one

[grand mesa]

Her omniCD game is insane now

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

All that arena

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

I’m impressed frankly

[late wraith]

I saw the stupid little cat and was like let’s fuckin GOOOOOOOOO

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

Imagine if I didn’t have the huge tell of going IM SORRY IM SORRY IM SORRY and snort laughing

I could say I am the king of inting Fuji in keys

[stray sigil]

avengers need to assemble

i need mmore keys

[late wraith]

@velvet quest is on now

we wre gonna plunder but we could do some keys first if you can assemble puzzle and face/taxes

[livid wasp]

you have so much stuff youre eager to do im jealous

[late wraith]

zechey just make an na account

[livid wasp]

ive just sat here the whole evening I didnt queue a single blitz or shuffle or 3s

waste of time

[late wraith]

like we just goof off 90% of the time and lock in for our 3s we do 4 times a week.

i don't even queue shuffle i'm not looking to have a bad time

[livid wasp]

you seem to enjoy it all

[late wraith]

yeah because it's a game

i feel like you're playing with shitters tbh

[livid wasp]

nothing wrong with them

[velvet quest]

if u play with randos ur enjoyment is completely tied to trying to make a number go up but if u play with friends u can find ways to have fun regardless of outcome

[late wraith]

like we do our little push in 3s, it's hard it's fuckin brutal some nights but then we do plunderstorm or stupid dps 2s or whatever other shenanigans the rest of the time

[livid wasp]

its a tough game for a loner

[late wraith]

so make an na account

and we will queue plunder trios with you

and let you take all the good abilities

[stray sigil]

i cant assemble anyone

[late wraith]

wanna do plunder then?

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

with me and mayo lol

[stray sigil]

PLUNDER WOOT WOOT

I LOVE PLUNDER

[late wraith]

heheheheheheheheheheheheheh

[late wraith]

don't be a troll

it's fun

[livid wasp]

I wouldnt voice with you though

[stray sigil]

i cant leave my tw q

i been in there for 55mins

i cant

[late wraith]

holy shit

[stray sigil]

i just cant

[late wraith]

leave that

[stray sigil]

its going to pop

i know it

[late wraith]

no it isn't

[stray sigil]

and then

i get the weapon or the trinket

from princess

[late wraith]

do 1 plunder we might even die in the opener

[stray sigil]

howm uch pluinder do i need

for the momg

[late wraith]

like 3 games

[stray sigil]

say ong rn

dont cap

fr

[late wraith]

i had bought everything in the store second day it was out

two mounts, a bunch of pets, the mog, all the weapons

[stray sigil]

bro

i just went in to mamke a character

and deadass

its just

ig plunder was meant to be

blissard mamde u

in plunder

its nuts

[late wraith]

i hate this man with all my heart

[stray sigil]

i didnt even customized it

thats how it came

thats crazy

[late wraith]

come into chat i'm gonna strream so puzzle can watch later

[stray sigil]

where the fuck is the mog

WHEWRE IS IT

oh

i see it

[clear pulsar]

New crit just dropped

[chrome panther]

[stray sigil]

NOWAY

[random patrol]

needs more dam

break 2 mill

[tardy hare]

Thats a female

[glad obsidian]

Big crit!

[queen holly]

how do you contribute dps as rdruid in shuffle?

i feel like there's often that last 500k-1m that i need to add to secure a kill

is it just catform shred

[clear pulsar]

Instant starfires

[vocal pendant]

Im new, what would you guys say the bread and butter abilities for keeper of the grove im focusing on pvp content with my dad atm if thats helpful context

He doesnt know much about healers so I need outside help lol

[clear pulsar]

The hero talent choice has low impact on how you use your spells

[vocal pendant]

Further proves idk what Im talking about 😂

[clear pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV57H2ytGyY
This should cover how to play well enough

[vocal pendant]

Oh nice I havent seen this vid yet Ill check it

Thanks

[clear pulsar]

Your healing meter is gonna look very diverse compared to a disc priest or a holy pala

[grand mesa]

Flop also wrote the Bible on rdru healing years ago

A lot of it still applicable. 3 hours of goodness

He’s created a mini series recently

4 parts

https://youtu.be/Oj22n6JSZ2o?si=0UPnZSsbczrjtwyl

[clear pulsar]

Altho those arent 14 diff spells ofc. More like 7 or 8.

[clear pulsar]

Flop content is the most hype. Big recommend watching the whole channel. His old guides still have super relevant parts about gameplay that don't change with time like builds change.

@vocal pendant

[vocal pendant]

So for the most part ignore discussion of the abilities?

Cuz I know those always change

[clear pulsar]

Lontar guide should be good for how to play and press your buttons

[grand mesa]

Yeah flop video for greater understanding on rdru and lontar for how it plays currently

[clear pulsar]

Flop channel doesnt have a recent druid guide but yeah the only part that requires being recent is talent build

[grand mesa]

Like for SL specifically cen ward was much bigger than it is now. But the act of extending your CW with swiftmend probably always will be relevant to some degree

[clear pulsar]

His last 4 videos are the most hype thing in all of life for healing in pvp

[vocal pendant]

I will check both channels out for sure thank you @clear pulsar @grand mesa !

[unborn knot]

do you boomys our there take remove corruption whenever you see a lock, even in blitz?

[radiant gulch]

it is what it is

[chrome panther]

[clear pulsar]

That's insane haha I havent seen one in a bit

My lobbies are all warriors, BM, assa

[radiant gulch]

it was probably the first lobby I had without a fury warrior

so theres that

[clear pulsar]

I would mostly cuz the tradeoff seems pretty low impact

What are you rly giving up for it, 10% hp in bear and improved stampeding?

Idk what your build looks like rn

[unborn knot]

yeah either one of those 🙂

ty

[late wraith]

I always take it into aff and I press that shit on cd. Agony does a decent amount of damage. I have a macro for both the people on my team and a wa that clucks like a chicken at me when someone gets cursed
Against destro you want to decurse havoc
Demo are dumb liddle bitches don’t bother with them just be annoyed about all the stuns

[grand mesa]

@clear pulsar @late wraith I was messing around setting up my bear and good lord in incarn u cant spend rage fast enough. I setup a mouse bind for it

perma 8-10 stacks of fur

[clear pulsar]

Ye cant play that spec for long

[grand mesa]

Ya no shot im hitting 5 for ironfur that often

[late wraith]

It hurts lol

I just don’t bother trying to keep rage uncapped it hurts my hand too much I can’t keep up

[stray sigil]

tw qs are bugged im sure of it

another 45min q

[late wraith]

Oh so I actually think they are though

When the plunder queue hits 2 minutes I reset it and insta get in

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

I let it sit for 6 mins yesterday

Reset and in immediately

[stray sigil]

im getting gaslighted into dropping q

and sitting another 45min

[late wraith]

Sorry bb I think they are actually bugged like I think sometimes you’re in a queue for nothing just in an eternal loop

It happens when we all insta ready up from the last round so maybe it’s just a plunder thing

[stray sigil]

do i drop q

[grand mesa]

Bro just wait I’ll come back soon and just do it with u

But I also think

It might be fucked because of all the bugs day 1 of reset

[late wraith]

Yeah

I think their queue system is fucked

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

Also if you’re queueing as dps with no healer or tank it takes forever

[grand mesa]

you should have done it with me that night

[late wraith]

Just tank one of them

[grand mesa]

But you said cba and logged

[late wraith]

Brewmaster it

[stray sigil]

idk how to play that garbage

[late wraith]

they just drink beer and spin I dunno

[grand mesa]

Idk press buttons and blame healer if he can’t heal u in perma red stagger

[late wraith]

Ye

[livid wasp]

I bet I am the only strategist on this channel

[late wraith]

It’s timewalking what are ya gonna do die?

[grand mesa]

Ur already a tank main u just don’t know it yet

[wanton ridge]

I feel like my hands aged 15 years since DF came out and IF spam became a thing

[late wraith]

TOI is hell

[wanton ridge]

I even made a 2nd set of macro for thrash->IF and mangle->IF specifically for incarn

[grand mesa]

I know it’s considered bad form and troll to macro IF to shit

But I’m doing it

[late wraith]

There is one way to do damage but it’s going to cost you YOUR HANDS

[grand mesa]

U can’t stop me

[wanton ridge]

I'm doing it in incarn and I'm not ashamed, I'm at 150-165 CPM during hero with incarn in a big pull, f that lol

[grand mesa]

yeah no shot I’m pressing 5

I have it on mouse button for now

But that’s breaking my brain

So might be macro angle

Oh @wanton ridge are bears happy rn

[wanton ridge]

They made a post about prot warriors and their "" high "" APM, hopefully they address IF spam because it's dogshit design

[late wraith]

Why do people not like the macro why is that troll?

[clear pulsar]

Bears are never happy

They arent whiny like boomies

[wanton ridge]

You can troll your key if you fuck it up

[clear pulsar]

But guardian channel is never happy with their spec

[late wraith]

How?

[wanton ridge]

The prime example is what happens if you need to hit FR but you're out of rage because you macro'd thrash to IF

and die

[late wraith]

I legit cannot imagine being out of rage

[clear pulsar]

And 80% of chatters there dont even play guardian

[late wraith]

Like it’s an insane thought

[grand mesa]

But also because proper play has always been pooling rage for multiple stacks of IF for big damage

And shit

[wanton ridge]

On bosses you're quite starved

[grand mesa]

But I’ve been playing bear since BFA and it’s never been this spammy

[late wraith]

Yeah I just ain’t spamming if enough my hands can’t take it

[clear pulsar]

👵

[chrome panther]

squish does it xd

[grand mesa]

even in incarn u weren’t getting to 10 stacks perma

[wanton ridge]

The current gameplay in M+ is zzz and bad. I just want Raze/UF to be a thing again that encourages proper play

[late wraith]

Yeah I don’t like elune. The raid catweaving was super fun

[clear pulsar]

You should play evoker beavs

[stray sigil]

i got a tank qq

[wanton ridge]

dotc in raids is super fun 10/10

[stray sigil]

i need keys

asssemble old people

[late wraith]

There is every spec in the game between bear and evoker

[grand mesa]

Why cause evoker is 13 cpm?

[clear pulsar]

Yeah cuz low apm easy on hands

[grand mesa]

even face is joining in on the beavs old hate

[clear pulsar]

Wtf

[late wraith]

Like this isn’t me being old this is a known thing

[clear pulsar]

It was a genuine suggestion

[wanton ridge]

you can play aug and time 15-16s doing no damage

[late wraith]

Yeah I’m not playing a fuckin evoker be real

[grand mesa]

Yeah but then you’d be intentionally doing 15-16s

[clear pulsar]

I need to find a pet that matches Shadowflame colors now

[wanton ridge]

(and then lose all self respect because 1) playing evoker and 2) playing aug)

[clear pulsar]

Do we know anyone that tames every pet in the game?

[clear pulsar]

Numbering parentheses inside parentheses is nasty work brother

[wanton ridge]

i do this for a living, trust me

[grand mesa]

@hollow condor Maybe. He was yoinking and taming the amirdrassil rares day 1 and making people mald

[late wraith]

I have a nail appointment I’ll be around in the afternoon

[grand mesa]

At gymnastics class with family. And then we’re out to eat to watch the eagles game so idk when I’m back

[clear pulsar]

Is it a brazilian lady doing your nails?

If not they'll look ugly, trust me

US manicure is nasty work

[late wraith]

I dunno but she does a really nice job

[grand mesa]

I saw a streamer with ur setup beavs

[late wraith]

The key bind thing?

[clear pulsar]

Bills will lose to the power of friendship bracelets

Deadass

[late wraith]

Custom keyboard too. Just like me fr

[grand mesa]

I think megasett is great so I’m no longer a stinky hater

[clear pulsar]

HAHAHAHA

[grand mesa]

Do u move with joystick or mouse

[late wraith]

Not having to hit shift with your little pinky finger is a game changer re: sore hands

[clear pulsar]

You dont respect your friend's setup but when a streamer does it now it all changed

[late wraith]

Mouse and wasd

I have the middle keys set to wasd

[clear pulsar]

What is your thumb doing on that keypad?

[late wraith]

There’s a shift modifier

[grand mesa]

Idk if I could do this

[late wraith]

Right above where it says movement

[grand mesa]

The joystick. I’d probably do wasd

[clear pulsar]

On the birb icon?

[late wraith]

There’s a small button

[grand mesa]

Like u

[late wraith]

That’s shift

[clear pulsar]

I see there are 2 buttons near the joystick

[late wraith]

The one above is small that’s shift

The one at the very bottom is space

[grand mesa]

Have you always played like that or was it a recent switch

Even if I wanted to idk if I could

[late wraith]

Since shadowlands season 1

[grand mesa]

20 years of muscle memory

[late wraith]

I just had to my hands are way way too small and hitting something like alt+5 was deranged and impossible

And my pinky hurt bad all the time

[grand mesa]

I’m also Tiny man hands

So maybe I’ll consider

[late wraith]

Shift 5 almost impossible

Like it’s a nightmare

[grand mesa]

it’s starting to get achey ngl

[late wraith]

So I had super limited keybinds

I also use this thing for my job

It’s my hotkeys for photoshop

[stray sigil]

got a non bis wep from cache

[late wraith]

People with big hands don’t like the Tartarus thing they say it’s too small lol

This was made for our frail little elegant hands

[grand mesa]

[late wraith]

Yeah 😔

[clear pulsar]

Trump hands fr

[stray sigil]

@grand mesa she said it agane

[late wraith]

I don’t even think my hands are that small but shamblers all showed how easy it was for them to hit shift + up to like 7 and I was like wtf. It’s a large hands world we’re just living in it 😔

[grand mesa]

Shift 7 is insane

[late wraith]

I know like I’m sorry that’s demented

[clear pulsar]

HAHAHA

[grand mesa]

Shift 5 is like soothe for me (I never soothe)

[clear pulsar]

I wouldnt say it's easy for me

But I could bind something there like mount maybe

[late wraith]

I simply cannot do it

[clear pulsar]

I use shift Y a lot

[grand mesa]

shift G is focus cyclone

[clear pulsar]

And I used all mods + 6 at some point for Hibernate

[grand mesa]

That’s about as far as I go

Where it’s relatively comfy

[clear pulsar]

Shift Y is my ping

You know when I was spamming the circle clone

[grand mesa]

But like y n b h. My hands so small I have to over extend and guess

If I’m hitting the right key

[late wraith]

I just mis hit a lot

[grand mesa]

[late wraith]

Imagine the melds

[grand mesa]

Fuji doesn’t need to imagine

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

Would be so much worse

Go for a clone hit trinket or something

[grand mesa]

fuji fighting his life in the timewalking

[late wraith]

Anyways I don’t take shit from anyone about my binds they work for me. Plus @velvet quest has all his damage on his mouse

And that’s insane

[grand mesa]

So does Fuji

[stray sigil]

wrong i did it already

[grand mesa]

He’s one of those new age

[late wraith]

I’m sorry they’re wrong

[grand mesa]

Has entire rotation on his mouse

Gamer

[late wraith]

The kids are wrong

[grand mesa]

I cannot possibly do that

[late wraith]

Yeah mayo does that too. All his damage is mouse buttons like hello how

[grand mesa]

the thumb strain would kill me

[stray sigil]

i wont take abuse from a granny that cant even use a normal keyboard

[late wraith]

Same

[stray sigil]

beavs got the swifty setup

literally

[late wraith]

I’m being discriminated against by a fuckin zoomer

[clear pulsar]

@late wraith @grand mesa show hands over keyboard for size comparison

[late wraith]

You all have the worst reading comprehension of any generation and I’m taking shit

[stray sigil]

dont show ur hands face

[late wraith]

When I’m home I will

[stray sigil]

ull prove ur 5'2

[grand mesa]

same

[stray sigil]

keep the mystery alive

[grand mesa]

This looks dope

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

Also I got one of those compact mini keyboards

[hollow condor]

but not every pet in the game. I just did it for the funnzies

[random patrol]

I use a model m

[grand mesa]

Ok model M is insanely good

Ngl

We have a few of those in the OR and they’re great

Actually insanely good

I know what Fuji would say about this keyboard but he’s objectively wrong

[unborn knot]

@late wraith any chance i could steal this off you? xD

'that clucks like a chicken at me when someone gets cursed '

[late wraith]

Yep

When I’m home

[unborn knot]

❤️

i love the tww wa package on here, the one that has the gcd in it too, in pinned resources

i wish there was an up to date one like that for my monk

[late wraith]

puzzle is the king of addons and WAs

[unborn knot]

id feel a bit cheeky asking him to show me how to make one for windwalker in the druid forum haha 😄

[late wraith]

Oh yeah no I’m saying for stuff in here and Druid things he’s made some solid ones

[unborn knot]

https://wago.io/OiBalance this is the one i was talking about

i reaaaaaly like it

[late wraith]

Oh yeah! I use that modified. I took all the cds off and use the astral power/eclipse bar

I feel like this does exist on the monk disc though? They have an equivalent for sure

[unborn knot]

the best i can find is a slightly out of date one by luxthos

i didnt know you could edit them though!

so i could take this balance one and change it for windwalker!?

[late wraith]

You could yeah, expand the base aura (there’s an arrow or + or something near the name in the list) then each cd usually has its own nested aura. Change the id to ww ones. Delete stuff you don’t need

Duplicate the aura first or you’ll break it for boomy. In load tab change it to ww

[unborn knot]

soon as ive finished this arena session ima do this thankyou man thats amazing

[late wraith]

Welcome

[velvet quest]

It’s hard to make your own weakaura, it’s easy to yoink an existing weakaura and modify bits to fit your needs. There should be plenty of monk weakaura packages out there but if there’s something you really like about this boomkin one it’s probably fine to just start with it. The chi/energy bar would be the hard part to change I think

[late wraith]

yeah making custom bars is hard. i'd pull that out of the ww one probably and just cobble them together. that's generally how i do mine. i find one close enough and kinda rip out pieces i don't want

[grand mesa]

Thyme .!. Remove dip shit!!!

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

hey fuji

i think he means you

[velvet quest]

No other windwalkers are dips hits only fuji. It’s gotta be talking about him

[stray sigil]

[clear pulsar]

So fuji has a spaceship weakaura kit

But he was yapping about mine

[late wraith]

do you all remember when pvpers said that using any wa at all was wrong and only for pve?

[grand mesa]

remember?

Fuji still goes on about it

[velvet quest]

I’ve definitely added/modified weakauras cause of pvp way more often than in pve. Like for pve you just have your dbm/bigwigs and that’s all you need for awhile, then you can add targeted spells weakaura and raid/dungeon packs if you wanna get fancy

Pvp it’s like oh I got oneshot by this, time to add another to my list

[stray sigil]

i dont even have weakauras

i have 1 for dispel poison

[clear pulsar]

It went from 'dont have' to 'have 1' in literally 0.72s

Give it 5 mins fuji is gonna come out with 1355 weakauras

[grand mesa]

I think the only time I had to go out of my way to add shit was anything dk related

Cause mes is a rat

[late wraith]

like i remember awake telling me i shouldn't use a weak aura for my astral and i was like dude it is telling me... the exact same information that is under my name plate but it's cleaner and i can put it where i want it? and i can put my eclipse on there too? like why? not?

[grand mesa]

I still haven’t had a serpent sting silence cleansed btw

Dips

Shit

Hit

[late wraith]

DIP S HIT

i can't believe that gets automodded

[surreal heron]

the keyword is "dipshit" dipshit

[late wraith]

it's the most benign and perfect swear

THYME WHAT THE

[surreal heron]

lmaoooooooo

[late wraith]

GIVE ME THAT

[grand mesa]

I asked for that tbh

[late wraith]

you asked for it to be modded?

that's insane

[grand mesa]

No thyme dropping from the top rope out of nowhere and flaming me 😂

[late wraith]

an egregious power flex

[velvet quest]

I’ve been told multiple times that u can’t dispel that but I’m not positive

[grand mesa]

I know for a fact that if u dispel prior versions like the slow the silence still triggers

Idk about dispelling the silence specifically

[clear pulsar]

It's a poison dispel like any other

But yeah if you dispel 1 it becomes the next

[stray sigil]

yes pigs u can dispell the slience

[late wraith]

if we're all pigs what does that make you

[stray sigil]

pig herder

[late wraith]

a pig herder

so a farmer?

[stray sigil]

yes

[late wraith]

we're in capable hands

[grand mesa]

I wouldn’t know

[stray sigil]

u didnt evcen know u could dispell it

what does it matter to you

[unborn knot]

@puzzle ahahaah sorry im in arena so i hadnt seen this

@grand mesa

so what you're saying is you've already got one premade? 😉

[grand mesa]

Ya for the silence from hunters specifically

[unborn knot]

hang on let me finish these couple a rena games before my pal goes to bed and ill shoot you a message if thats alright

i got one for explosive shot and chimearal

[grand mesa]

Explosive shot is no longer dispellable

AFAIK

[clear pulsar]

I can now yoink stickers

[grand mesa]

Since TWW came out

[clear pulsar]

Call me master yoinker

I hope mods get you

With that one and the trash bin one

[grand mesa]

Ok fine I’m sorry

Invisible hand of god

[unborn knot]

oh crap

i wondered why it wasnt seeming to work kek

[clear pulsar]

Explosive shot is also terrorism

I'm finally the one terrorizing others' keys

This pulls shit out of combat

And not even particularly near you

[grand mesa]

Doesn’t beat Draco

Pulling shit from narnia

[clear pulsar]

No it kinda does

[stray sigil]

still didnt inv mem

gg

instead had to go tank all mmy cr in shuffle

all on u

[grand mesa]

What u at now

Maybe u didn’t belong where u were

[stray sigil]

idk im like 2340 or seommthing

not a huge deal

had a triple wizard lobby

and healers had 6 dispells in 5mins

that was fun

[grand mesa]

They need my WA

[stray sigil]

or just eyes idk

how do u not press dispells

lol

[clear pulsar]

We were fighting this pack on the left a bit closer to the fountain and it pulled the pack on the right

[stray sigil]

like 7 dispells is what

35s

so theres legit

4.5mins

of them not pressing it

x

d

[grand mesa]

Rotational dispel

[clear pulsar]

I cant believe fuji got oppressed by the healers

[stray sigil]

i mmean im mplaying vs 2 mages

and a lock

yes pig

play double disepll

and help emm out

lol

[stray sigil]

healers are absolute terrorists in shuffle

cant even deny

[grand mesa]

All other dps overcome

[stray sigil]

casters dotn have to deal with novas

[clear pulsar]

Just sounds a bit 16hundo behavior

I lost cuz of healers, everybody else won

The healers conspired against me

[stray sigil]

uh

i didnt go 0-6

lol

i went 3-3

[clear pulsar]

Should have gone 0-6

Healers saved you

[stray sigil]

[clear pulsar]

This game is a spanking @grand mesa

[grand mesa]

Yes

[clear pulsar]

Do we like the Eagles?

[grand mesa]

Yes

Saquon Barkley is impossible to dislike

Also me dodging queues with Fuji

[stray sigil]

all i wanna do is q and get better

but im gatekept

[clear pulsar]

By the HEALERS

Damn healers

[stray sigil]

obviously i played bad dumbass

but i abrely got to play

is the problem

[livid wasp]

prot warr meta now or something

[stray sigil]

its banks meta

[grand mesa]

Only against boomer hunters

[livid wasp]

im facing this one guy in skirms and his dmg is stupid

[stray sigil]

like these games hard for me to improve if i cant play the game

[grand mesa]

face kfchi

[stray sigil]

but also

to be fair

idk why

we get 2.2 healers

in 2.4-5 mmmr

is a bit scuffed

but wcyd

[grand mesa]

you know why

It’s the only way to keep queues reasonable

[stray sigil]

it was

[clear pulsar]

Shoulda played freedom pet

[stray sigil]

45mmin

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

?

how is that reasonable

[grand mesa]

ya now imagine if it only looked for 2.4

For you

[stray sigil]

thats mmy problem mwith these qs

45min

to get ppl that dont know how to play the gamem

so its like

so meh

[livid wasp]

idk prot warr

dmg so insane

[grand mesa]

Would u be ok with 1 - 1.5 hour queue time

[livid wasp]

he ques with a ret pala too

[grand mesa]

For a proper game

[livid wasp]

they fuck up my partners

[stray sigil]

imm close to that alrready

so yes

[livid wasp]

why would they make a damn tank broken in pvp

depressing

[late wraith]

wdym tank broken in pvp

[livid wasp]

prot warrior

[clear pulsar]

It's the same as every other broken spec in the game

Zechey lost to 1 (one) team playing it

Now the spec is broken

It's the only way Zechey can lose a game

[late wraith]

got it got it

wait we didn't address something from earlier

[grand mesa]

In SKIRMISH

SKIRMISH

[late wraith]

you said you're the only one in here who is a strategist

wanna explain that?

[grand mesa]

marvel rivals

[late wraith]

huh?

[grand mesa]

duelist strategist sometbing else idk

[livid wasp]

I faced him multiple times

[grand mesa]

name of the roles

[livid wasp]

strategist, 25 wins past 2.4k in blitz

[grand mesa]

Oh that’s even worse

[late wraith]

oh like in the blitz lobby you were in?

or in... here?

[livid wasp]

no I talked about strategist

I faced prot war in skirms

but it doesnt matterr

[grand mesa]

ok now this makes so much more sense

[livid wasp]

if theyre op there no reason to not be outside

[grand mesa]

Idk why u randomly brought up you were playing a healer role in marvel rivals

[late wraith]

i'd be kinda shocked if he played an fps

tbh

[grand mesa]

Fuji isn’t talking

[livid wasp]

I have played cs

[grand mesa]

He’s currently fighting for his life with …. 2.2 healers

[late wraith]

should get glyph in here to say some shit about how if you can't carry the whole lobby you're bad

[clear pulsar]

I missed a 35 min queue cuz I got up to get water

[late wraith]

guy is always so insightful

[clear pulsar]

BLESSED

BLESSED WITH INSTA REQUEUE

[grand mesa]

That insta requeue is sus imo

[clear pulsar]

It doesnt matter for me

I'm dps

If other ppl are low mmr I will fiarrrrme them

[grand mesa]

[clear pulsar]

Also there is never big mmr disparity

Between dps anyways

Too many of us

[grand mesa]

I realized pve is peaceful

I think I’ll stay there

[livid wasp]

but

cant win in pve

[unborn knot]

is there a way to change the camera settings? fo example i just got cloned in game, and everyone was behind me to the right, and i was trying to place ursols vortex behind me in the fray, but cause of the camera 'correcting' it self it fucked me over and i couldnt

[livid wasp]

you can

camera following style only when moving

[tropic schooner]

oh god you have auto adjust camera?!

[tropic schooner]

???

[unborn knot]

i didntr think i did

ive only just noticed this

[grand mesa]

Camera settings “never adjust camera”

[livid wasp]

never?

[tropic schooner]

never

[livid wasp]

I like to look where im walking

[unborn knot]

thank fuck found it, thoughti was going crazy

[tropic schooner]

so turn it if you need to know

[clear pulsar]

I have auto follow camera

"Oh god" is crazy

[grand mesa]

Oh god is justified

[late wraith]

hang on you all have your camera auto following?

or i guess zechey and face do?

huh?

[livid wasp]

I bet you have sticky targetting on too

[late wraith]

wtf are you talking about

[grand mesa]

That’s also gross

having sticky targetting on

[late wraith]

wtf is sticky targeting

[grand mesa]

Left click random texture on ground to deselect your target

[late wraith]

ew

[grand mesa]

Is when you dont have sticky targetting

[late wraith]

oh mine doesn't do that

i have to click someone else to deselect my target

[grand mesa]

I have it off I deselect by clicking ground all the time

[late wraith]

ew

[clear pulsar]

Yall are batshit

[grand mesa]

if I want to wild growth or radiance around myself

Click ground press button

[late wraith]

yeah i don't want to randomly click off my target sorry

[tropic schooner]

I dont have sticky targeting on either

I also dont randomly click of my target

[late wraith]

i do sometimes and i don't like it so i have it on it doesn't impact me negatively in any way

[grand mesa]

Yeah I actually get more annoyed I can’t deselect my target easily than the opposite. Like I’m rarely like untargetted and confused

[tropic schooner]

tbh I also dont really use it to remove my target

dont think id notice if id turn on sticky targeting

[grand mesa]

Ya its a small thing but I def notice when I have it on

[tropic schooner]

using or not using sticky targeting

not nearly as crazy as adjusting camera

[grand mesa]

ya

[tropic schooner]

thats just complete madness

[grand mesa]

I click off ground + WG so often

[clear pulsar]

Esc?

[late wraith]

i don't know what you mean you need to click the ground to cast something under you

you don't?

that's not impacted by sticky target?

or are you saying you have self cast turned on

when you don't have someone selected

[grand mesa]

Clicking ground is easier idk

[clear pulsar]

I need some 2x2

More than ev before

Log in

[grand mesa]

WG cleaves around the enemy target if it’s targetted. It doesn’t just heal you because u have enemy targetted like other friendly casts. AFAIK anyway. So if I want to WG around me specifically. I select myself mouseover myself or just click ground press c. I gusss I have self cast turned on idk. This is the behavior I’ve been used to for a while now

[tropic schooner]

id be absolutely shocked

if thats true

[grand mesa]

What WG?

[tropic schooner]

yes

the cleave condition

[grand mesa]

it’s true afaik. We do that for last boss mists

[clear pulsar]

That's what it does

[grand mesa]

radiance doesn’t work that way

[clear pulsar]

It goes around your target

[grand mesa]

Which i found really fucking annoying

[tropic schooner]

wtf is that stupid spell

pretty sure that is literally the only spell

that works like that

[clear pulsar]

I'm psure it's always been that way

[grand mesa]

Yeah I can’t say always personally but for as long as I’ve played rdruid it’s been that way

[grand mesa]

Yeah when I first started disc up this season I was annoyed I couldn’t target boss and cleave the radiance around him
30 yards

[tropic schooner]

yea ofc it self casts

[grand mesa]

Would just make me radiance around myself and hunter mage didn’t get atonement

[tropic schooner]

like every other ability

😠

[grand mesa]

another bit of druid privilege I took for granted

[tropic schooner]

to me that is worse

like if I wanna selfcast I want to selfcast

otherwise id select the target I want it on

[grand mesa]

I mean I still have the option of healing around myself

But for shit like tredova which is a massive model

It’s so useful

[tropic schooner]

okay yes TIL just tested it

[clear pulsar]

Circle of Healing in Wrath and Cata also works like that

[tropic schooner]

I can cast Wild growth and not hit anyone

wait im gonna check that too

that sounds like cap to me

(but the initial one also did )

CoH is actually a bit different (in cata)

but not completly

Wild growth you can cast without it hitting anyone, the cata CoH you cant

[clear pulsar]

But you can just macro it to default to self-casting if your target is an enemy if you want

It's strictly better to have the option to do somethign else

While keeping the option to do what you want it to

[tropic schooner]

fair

but not bad I learned sth new

[clear pulsar]

Is it worth killing surging totems? @stray sigil @grand mesa

[grand mesa]

It’s got health

better to move away from it

And hope the enh is like me and doesn’t totemic projection the surging totem back under him

[tropic schooner]

I think I also never casted WG from the target cause I have macros which selfcast if I dont have ally targeted or mouseovered

[stray sigil]

its like 1m hp

mfer dont spend 5mins hitting that

[grand mesa]

fighting enh under his surging vs. away from it

Is a big difference

[clear pulsar]

It's 4m hp

[grand mesa]

It’s got 24s duration 24s CD and totemic projection is 10s CD. This changes a bit next patch but yeah just fight away from it

aside from the earth line thing that incaps idk why I can’t think of the name, the range is short with enh abilities interacting with totem

sundering

[clear pulsar]

Idk what any of it means

[grand mesa]

when you fight enh under his surging bad things happen. Fight enh away from his totem and less bad things happen

[clear pulsar]

Bro my plater thing for totems is completely borked idk

Do you have one updated with tww totems?

[grand mesa]

there was an update

are u using

the plater mod

for that?

[clear pulsar]

Yeah

[grand mesa]

fortunately for u

i am so dented

[clear pulsar]

The one with big ass icon on nameplate

[grand mesa]

i routinely search wago for WAs, plater mods, and curseforge

for recently updated new shit

[clear pulsar]

My war banner was showing some weird icon

[clear pulsar]

And most totems dont show anything

[grand mesa]

https://wago.io/53bVFUZoL

but i personally don't use it no so i can't vouch

this is what i use

glow around nameplate WA + nameplate remodeler script to make grounding and opther shit huge

lol

[clear pulsar]

Oh no, mine worked I just needed ig an updated list of the new totems

[grand mesa]

wanna banner removed next season so

war banner*

[wispy flume]

guys why do i suck

ok just learned druids can shapeshift when rooted

thats one mistake corrected

[grand mesa]

i love that name

chungussy

[wispy flume]

i loved it before he beat me with an enh shaman

[random patrol]

I think you could los behind that thing in the middle

[late wraith]

ye use los

[random patrol]

get bleeds run and los

[stray sigil]

[wispy flume]

run in circles around that thing while dots happen?

[random patrol]

yep

rem we druids are cowards by nature and cowards live longer

[late wraith]

don't smirk at me

[stray sigil]

[random patrol]

also dont have damp in overworld so even stronger

[clear pulsar]

One of the strongest openers of all time

Surv Instincts from stealth

[wispy flume]

do i wait on that?

[clear pulsar]

Brother you did not press 1 whole entire combo point spender

During your incarnation

I think you'd do you good to read the wowhead pve rotation guide

[wispy flume]

i just copy feral glad rotations

1 2 3 4 5 6 on bar and then spam r to get back ppoints and maim and bite when open then keep up dots

[clear pulsar]

I can tell that you thought you were doing something right

You didnt rly press the 5 spell

Or cast it rather, you pressed the button a lot sitting in the root

But I feel like you're just approaching playing the game wrong when you put an opener sequence as your keybinds

[wispy flume]

its how i remember it

how should i do it

[clear pulsar]

I understand that, but you wanna get to a point where you press buttons cuz you know what they do

Not cuz it's in sequence on your keyboard

[wispy flume]

ok i just thought if i copied people who know what theyre doing id just do as good as them

[clear pulsar]

Feral Frenzy and Swarm, buttons you press once every 30-45s, dont need to be on the most comfortable keys to press compared to Shred and Bite for instance

And shift-1 -> 6 idk I have a hard time seeing that as comfortable to spam

[wispy flume]

idt i even have shred in my rotation

ill look at the guide

[clear pulsar]

You keep pressing 2 and 3 over and over after you come out of the root even tho they're cooldowns, and on cooldown

[wispy flume]

im kinda spazzy true

[clear pulsar]

So honestly it just looks like you didnt read your spells

[wispy flume]

thats very true

@clear pulsar should I always rip at 5 combo points?

also does the primal wrath combos correlate to the combo level of rip it applies?

[stray sigil]

rip is same dmg no matter the cp

its just duration that changes

[wispy flume]

i mean for bleed damage

liek if i use a 5 combo point primal;

[stray sigil]

also yes use 5 cp on rip so u dont have to constantly reapply

[wispy flume]

ok

[stray sigil]

like i said its the same dmg

just different duration so it says it does more dmg

[wispy flume]

oh ur right

@stray sigil do i run after applying dots so i dont get attacked or how do i know when to retreat?

[stray sigil]

in what duels or

[wispy flume]

i mostly play 2s

[stray sigil]

u can stun and bite people dont need to bleed snd run

in 2s if u play with a healer dont need to run much unless ur getting fucked or healer ccd

[wispy flume]

how do i deal with not being able to reach like hunters when they disengage or blinking mages if my wild charge is on cooldown?

i struggle with that a lot

[wanton ridge]

ideally you save your charge for their movement abilities, but you also have tools like vortex/instant entangling roots

[stray sigil]

can also just run at them ur faster ull catch up

[wintry jackal]

Why did you survival instincts?

You didn’t get rake stun because you broke your own stealth

And you didn’t maim at all

[wispy flume]

icyveins never mentioned maim in the rotation when should i use it?

[stray sigil]

maim is to feral what kidney is to rogue

that is how u generate pressure

[wispy flume]

gotcha i know rogues open with kidney but i still open with rip bc of stun right?

[stray sigil]

they open with cheapshot

rake is ferals cheapshot

but yes u open with rake because maim costs 5 cp and y ou have 0 in opener

[wispy flume]

and i only spend the points on maim if i need to kick right? Otherwise i just go for the longer rip?

[stray sigil]

keep bleeds up

maim everytime u have stun dr

bite else

[tropic schooner]

maim is not kick

maim is a stun

[stray sigil]

u kinda get what he means though

hes super new looks like

think he meant like to interrupt casts but not kicking

[wispy flume]

yeah this is what i thought kicking meant

[tropic schooner]

my bad actually did not really understand what you meant, but yea kicking in wow refers to using your interrupt to stop casts, not using a stun to stop them,but as was said dont only want to use stun for cast stops (tbh you usually dont a lot of healing isnt even castbased)

[wispy flume]

so just use it whenever its available is a good rule of thumb if theres no casters?

[tropic schooner]

not sure what casters have to do with it but no not really

as fuji said you gotta check the stun DR (its reduces unless that is ready)

[wispy flume]

do these proportions look right? or is there a min max for an ability im not keeping dots on?

[stray sigil]

thrash looks kinda high

u dont rly wanna press that too much

outside of proccing blood talons

its not rly a high prio dot

moonfire does more dmmg

[scenic girder]

sooooooooooo super quick question for my ferals out there.... In pvp of course in my opener i wanna be using rake for the stun... .but is there any point i wanna be using rake over shred? and for that matter should i like.... ever? Be using rip over primal wrath?

[stray sigil]

u always want rake dot up on people so yes u do press rake, pw is only for aoe

dont think u press pw very much at all

[scenic girder]

PW applies rake tho

[stray sigil]

pw applies rip

[scenic girder]

rip

thats what imeant im sorry

rip =_=

[stray sigil]

but its 12s rip max

vs 24 or something if u use rip itself

[scenic girder]

not rake should i be using rip over PW sorry =/

[stray sigil]

yes

[scenic girder]

so... maybe?

got it

[stray sigil]

if u just press pw ur gonna be using so many globals on reapplying rip over a game

and pw kinda does no dmg anyways

[scenic girder]

gotcha, ty! an how bout my rake vs shred? outside of opener is it.... anythin?

oh wow yea thats a.... thats a big number differece too in terms of the hit..... definatly still wanna be ripping

imma shutup and go back to readin these spells before asking dumb questions, thanks!!!

[stray sigil]

rake is super important to keep up yes

shred is not used all that much

tbh

[scenic girder]

just for combo points right?

[stray sigil]

yeah but you have brutal slash essentially a better shred that costs less

and ur gonna be reapplyingn rake/moonfire and what not

so ur not really gonna be pressing a shred a whole lot outside of proccing bt or when u have literally 0 brs charges

[scenic girder]

gotcha gotcha, thanks!... i was specced into the... not brutal slash

well you have been incredibly helpful i apprecate the info! ty again

havnt feraled in years it feels so weird XD

[stray sigil]

[scenic girder]

indeed

[clear pulsar]

What a run for fuji this morning

[stray sigil]

[wispy flume]

got rid of thrash

[stray sigil]

overtime your rip gonna be #1

should be atleast

[wispy flume]

so i need to apply it earlier?

[stray sigil]

no all im saying is

ur details looks like it was like a 20s encounter

as long as you have your dots as close as possible to 100% uptime

should be fine

[clear pulsar]

Yeah what is this a screenshot of?
I think if you're trying to just practice your buttons, which is good, you should just hit a dummy for 20 mins.
Focus on maintaining bleeds without being wasteful (refreshing too early), using Brutal Slash charges, and not overcapping combo points, spending at 5, etc.

Pressing a sequence of 8 buttons and screenshotting how much damage it did over 20s isnt very useful for you or for anyone trying to help you

[wispy flume]

makes sense

i usually go slash bite slash bite slash bite

is that how i should be using slash to get combos?

[stray sigil]

dont bite at 1 combo point

always 5

[wispy flume]

gotcha

[late wraith]

Moose are you new to wow or just new to feral pvp. Like did you pve before?

[wispy flume]

i started wow in novemeber

[late wraith]

oh dang

So right into pvp?

[wispy flume]

yeah i did mythic raids and some m+ dungeons but nothing hits like pvp

the thrill is there for me

[late wraith]

You did mythic raid? like the current raid season raid?

[wispy flume]

yeah i did a mythic nerub once

pretty sure

i know i did a timed m+ dungeon

[late wraith]

nice

[wispy flume]

wb

wbu

[late wraith]

Since vanilla lol.

[wispy flume]

wow

do u pvp or pve?

[late wraith]

Both but mostly pvp now

[wispy flume]

how long did it take for pvp to click for you

[late wraith]

Welcome though, I hope you have fun with it

[wispy flume]

thanks

[late wraith]

Still working on it all the time tbh there’s different stuff to learn as you climb

and different expacs and seasons change things up a little

[grand mesa]

We must protect you

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

Just tag him

@grand mesa your boy is pining

He wants to do 2s with you

[civic quail]

monk smh

[late wraith]

Truuuue bestie

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

Puzzle keeping this channel on read Fuji

I tried for you liddle clown I’m sorry

[stray sigil]

i got like 4 ppl listing but i was in shuffle

and then out they all disapeared

[grand mesa]

[late wraith]

Wow

[stray sigil]

its fine puzzle would have handled the pres frost mage the same way this guy from lfg did

[late wraith]

scathing

[stray sigil]

(died in opener)

(then he lobbed me)

(i was sheeped)

[chrome panther]

[late wraith]

Disc isn’t gonna die in opener be for real

[grand mesa]

Oh was it that one shot

Shit with snowdrift

Nah I would have trinket tranqed the first

Then died on the second

[late wraith]

Bless

[stray sigil]

no

he just died

to breath

and frost bomb veins

[late wraith]

Oh rdruid

[stray sigil]

was no snowdrifts

[late wraith]

Maybe puzzle does just die in the opener

Rdruid great target lol

[grand mesa]

[chrome panther]

[late wraith]

disc kinda rough

[grand mesa]

disc is just cheating

30% dr if someone looks at you funny

[late wraith]

Yeah. Feel lucky if they waste a pain sup on themselves in a quick swap

but highly unlikely and not worth

[grand mesa]

it’s been an adjustment being back to rdru after just not giving a fuck as disc

[stray sigil]

i keep getting

that sheffcurry rbg guy

and my god

i dont want to anymore

please make it stop

[grand mesa]

in ur shuffles ?

[stray sigil]

yes

stick to bgb lil bro please

[late wraith]

Rdruid feels like the best target for me and mayo like almost everytime we queue into one

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

The second they make a move at Jason we swap

[grand mesa]

in 3s or

2s

[late wraith]

3s

[grand mesa]

ya

I think that’s fair

I was explaining to someone playing priest in pvp/shuffle first time that rdruid gonna get antsy and horny and u bonk them when they can’t help themselves lol

[late wraith]

Yeah you can see it

[clear pulsar]

Stop it