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late wraith
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I’m too busy thinking about Christmas

stray sigil
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noway

late wraith
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Can’t ruin my time little clowns

clear pulsar
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I will have 2585 after doing the things
I spend on sylv mog, rogue monk and DH armor sets, that's 2200

stray sigil
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she wont let me post r word in her discord

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but she makes fun of davids sniffa

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NOWAY

clear pulsar
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I cant buy a single weapon set

late wraith
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omg sylv mog I forgot

stray sigil
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why the fuck would u buy sylv mog

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are u stopid

late wraith
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Undies on the outside like I’m 2000s Britney Spears

clear pulsar
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It looks so sick

stray sigil
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sylvanas is dogshit

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wrong

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dont even try beavs

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she is dogshit

stray sigil
viscid remnant
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I am barely subbed and i had 20k

late wraith
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Her costume’s cute though no matter what you think

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She’s a 2k fashionista

clear pulsar
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I spend mine

late wraith
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20k tendies huh!?!?!?

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Have you just never bought anything?

stray sigil
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hes jew

late wraith
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I’m tendy poor wish they’d let me pay to win those

stray sigil
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@viscid remnant real

late wraith
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I’d swipe every month

clear pulsar
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I have diver mog frozen but ig that will be deleted forever now

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Freeze sylv mog for the future

late wraith
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Ngl diver mog is ugly

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I didn’t get it cause where am I gonna wear that

stray sigil
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ur a dumb fuckjing chicken

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u dont see mog anyways

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PIG

clear pulsar
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And the ragnaros flail bro

late wraith
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When I have to wild charge to healer cause I’m getting the piss kicked out of me they see it for a second

clear pulsar
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I'm gonna lose it with this trading post

late wraith
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I am pissed about next patch being horrible looking steam punk nerd shit

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Ugliest aesthetic that exists

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Gonna not raid at all if it looks like that

stray sigil
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u deserve all u get for giving ppl kenker late df

late wraith
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Me? Me personally? I didn’t do shit

stray sigil
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ur spec

late wraith
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Okay go lay down

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You’ve had too much sugar

stray sigil
viscid remnant
stray sigil
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its in his genetics

clear pulsar
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Whats happening today fuji

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Are you ok?

stray sigil
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i am doing dragon soul

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so no i am not

late wraith
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He’s manic

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He’s having an episode

stray sigil
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im having a full season

late wraith
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Lol

viscid remnant
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feji went shizo

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since the end of sl

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he has not been the same person

stray sigil
viscid remnant
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but its understandable

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i would say i went shizo too for a while

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since october 2023 idont feel the same

safe heart
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Being shitzo is based af cuh

tiny oar
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Being shitzo is based af cuh

stray sigil
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cuh

late wraith
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Cuh

clear pulsar
viscid remnant
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Floobert

strange hawk
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Is thorns worth it for feral going into a melee lobby?

safe heart
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I'd only consider if the enemy team doesn't have purge

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But generally I don't play it

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I play claws wound tireless 99%

strange hawk
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Ok thanks

stray sigil
grand mesa
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Fuji stinks

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Arthas stinks

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Face silly for caring about tpost this much we knew there would be a big month and u should have saved

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And beavs it’s too soon for Christmas

viscid remnant
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where my flame

clear pulsar
stray sigil
true ledge
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can a priest defend a base in AB blitz vs a rogue who uses cloak + cap?
4 second cap
discpriest

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shadowfiend on cd

clear pulsar
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You're gonna wanna ask that

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In the priest discord

late wraith
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No way ask it here

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No probably not I dunno

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I think no. Vibes say no

tropic schooner
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gotta get that wand ready

safe heart
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As long as you death the kidney, you're golden

tropic schooner
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while I havent played blitz deathing kidney sounds interesting

safe heart
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Enjx
Head: empty
Vibes: immaculate
Kidney: deathed it
Dome: dented

viscid remnant
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you gone senile enji

stray sigil
late wraith
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death kidney, death clone, gaminggggg

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death diamond ice

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move out of the way of trap then walk into it later this is all huge priest gaming i hope you're taking notes here

stray sigil
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lets be honest here grandma ur not deathing anything

late wraith
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lol i am good at deathing casts you don't know shit

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you legit just make stuff up in your head i don't think you've ever seen me play my priest and you've seen me play boomy recently once? through puzzle?

tropic schooner
safe heart
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Fuji quick making stuff up on your head
And start making up stuff in the mffnnn LAB pluh

late wraith
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ong

late wraith
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liddle binch

safe heart
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Luh calm fit

rigid silo
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as a feral what am i supposed to do in bg rated

stray sigil
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budget rogue probably

safe heart
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Respec guardian

polar nymph
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Respect Guardian

rigid silo
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welp this server didnt help

safe heart
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Next question

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Also tbf, fuji's response is the actual answer to your question whether you like it or not

viscid remnant
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Wave a magic wand and make your class a rogue

rigid silo
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is guardian that good

clear pulsar
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No I dont think so

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But feral doesnt have a real user base of people interested in helping here atm

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Tough luck

safe heart
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Better luck next xpac

polar nymph
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safe heart
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Realistically playing feral in rbgs is just sitting a base
Stay 30yards from the flag and just spam moonfire on them while u run away and call it in chat

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If ur not sitting , go try to ninja cap stuff
Bait trinket then kite out the DR and then clone them for the cap

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In the orb map you can grab the orb and sit in bear form pretty much and be a budget tank
Just hide in a corner (no lie) and ppl will take an absurdly long time to start attacking you

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In wsg you're the flag running if there's no tanks
Focus on running to your team
The more ppl near you the more help you'll receive
Try to sit on cap unless you're being actively killed

rigid silo
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thanksmrow

safe heart
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One big key is that you will usually have more impact on the game by playing objective and not fighting ppl on roads and shit for no reason

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Okay cool
Next question

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I'm farming orange name points

tiny oar
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enji for orange name

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lake for mod

safe heart
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Idk what it takes to get orange name

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I've answered like 100 million questions in chat

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I've always had many kekw's

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It's only right

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Lake deserves mod

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We need a stern leader with an ironfist and Lake is perfect for the job

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She will crush the opposition (warlocks)

livid wasp
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you gotta suck several dicks

rigid silo
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Now it all makes sense.

safe heart
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Since now it makes sense

rigid silo
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fixed it made the e lowercase

safe heart
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Thanks I was panicking

rigid silo
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no thank you

safe heart
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Technically it still needs an s but I will let it slide because it's been a long 11 minutes

velvet quest
# rigid silo as a feral what am i supposed to do in bg rated

You have lots of options it depends on your team comp and what you’re comfortable doing. Normally I just take primal wrath and aoe pad team fights and do the most damage cause it helps my ego and when we lost it’s not my fault (sort by damage)

safe heart
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Just for the record

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I am actually undefeated in bgb

prime bear
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Then I send a screenshot of me being top 3 dmg after a loss to my friends and say smh man these ppl suck

late wraith
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You have to crop the screenshot so you can’t see garbage like flags captured or points taken or whatever like whooooo caaaaaares

late wraith
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LOOOOOOL

tiny oar
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fuji cranking

late wraith
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isn’t that hunter in number 2 the trueshot guy

tiny oar
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think s o yea

late wraith
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Astorian?

grand mesa
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Who?

late wraith
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the guy who writes all the mm guides for pve

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Real smartest guy in the room in his own mind type

grand mesa
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Oh the guy who paywalls the most up to date raidbot sims or whatever?

late wraith
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Yeah that’s the one lol

grand mesa
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😂

grand mesa
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@clear pulsar

late wraith
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Yeah that brain sick people think is hot

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He sounds like a British butler

tiny oar
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the vampire guy

grand mesa
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Idk I unintentionally had an extremely misogynistic run

late wraith
grand mesa
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I accidentally ended up killing or pissing off all the women characters

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It was all dudes

late wraith
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That do sound like you tbh

grand mesa
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it wasn’t on purpose

late wraith
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That do sound like you tbh

tiny oar
surreal heron
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not on purpose makes it worse

grand mesa
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I just never found the first one after we jumped off the ship. There was a quest to kill a red orc so I killed a red orc. I pissed off shadowheart and she left me

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later on I realized those were all like playable characters I missed out on lmao

late wraith
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I am shocked you played this game tbh

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This is very not what I would expect from you there’s no place to swipe and be a whale user?

grand mesa
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I am grieving

late wraith
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I know buddy I know

clear pulsar
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I'm shocked you actually realized it later on

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If anything

grand mesa
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I want to open more packs man

late wraith
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What if

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We did

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Rated arena 3v3

grand mesa
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well when I saw twitter posts about like kargath or whatever her name was

late wraith
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In like 5 minutes

clear pulsar
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But the game makes it the clearest it can possibly be made clear that Karlach is a companion you should recruit

grand mesa
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I was like ah fuck

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I killed her

clear pulsar
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Like if you ever glanced at the screen while you skipped every dialogue until that point

grand mesa
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how

clear pulsar
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You know she's a companion

grand mesa
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there were two people that said there’s a menace that we need you to kill they’re a red orc and we will give you a sweet fucking sword as a reward

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And I wanted the sword

clear pulsar
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She's on character creation screen

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You get mind connected like every other companion to that point

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And the person that wants to kill her is the biggest dimwit in the game

grand mesa
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It also doesn’t help that the person I played with was also dark urge

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So we had to reload every night cause he’d accidentally murder Gale

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Like jfc I had no characters left

late wraith
grand mesa
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I think I have raid

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With the dad gamers

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We will eventually get aotc

late wraith
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I thought you were in mythic already

grand mesa
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With a diff guild

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I’m raiding in two guilds

clear pulsar
grand mesa
clear pulsar
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You're mentally ill

late wraith
grand mesa
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I’m also looking for a 2 night

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for my duwuid

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Raiding is fun BM hunters can’t hurt me there

clear pulsar
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Ok fair

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I take it back

late wraith
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It’s crazy to think that bm hunters aren’t capable of terrorism in pve

edgy shale
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they are

grand mesa
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Beavs in fairness I think your BM hunter just enjoys watching the world burn (he’s oce)

late wraith
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Yuja is mm

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Zeny is bm hunter

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he will bring mechanics from whatever max range position he’s in to put on me, the tank.

grand mesa
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Oh Hrm

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The dads ain’t raiding tn

late wraith
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We gaming? Hello?

grand mesa
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what’s OP this week

late wraith
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Disc priest

grand mesa
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that’s really bad

late wraith
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Disc priest, ww, boomy

grand mesa
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I don’t like playing other disc priests as disc priest

late wraith
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All awc contenders

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Bm is still op and probably warrior and still hpal and feral but it’s fine?

grand mesa
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I need booze

late wraith
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Get it girl

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Get drunk then get on we’re gaming

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@velvet quest

tiny oar
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hell yea

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lets go

grand mesa
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Lakez tag in

late wraith
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Gammmiiiiingggg

grand mesa
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Do they card u at the liquor store still @late wraith

tiny oar
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they card me

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i look like im 20 still its fucked

grand mesa
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I haven’t been carded in a while and it’s quite sad

late wraith
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well actually? kind of yeah? i order liquor through door dash

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and it's policy like they can't just drop it off

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they need to look at id so i guess yeah they do

grand mesa
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door dash does liquor?

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God these current early 20s kids got it so good lmao

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I’ve made some questionable decisions when I was younger when I ran out

prime bear
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Lmaoo

polar nymph
tiny oar
random patrol
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she's rerolling to guardian druid though

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yes

tiny oar
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no THANKS

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no bear for me

prime bear
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Ok so I have improved a lot but I find myself struggling really hard in caster/ranged lobbies

Specially vs the super unfair BM + any caster, any general tips? I’m getting trained hard and it’s hard to connect, should I not be using primal wrath in these scenarios? Ty all

safe heart
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uh

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brother

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if ur playing pw into bm + caster

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youre trolling yourself beyond all renown

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trade pw for moonfire

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use mf to build combos

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then you can leap in with a maim and be fairly safe

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(assuming you arent graping them with incarn already)

prime bear
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Ty 🙏🏻

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I was getting 4 and 5 wins until I ran into bm + caster lobbies or bm + sub

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Geez

safe heart
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king of the jungle isnt worth pressing pw for no reason imo

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and if ur playing pw WITHOUT king , then thats the worst possible thing you could be doing in that situation

random patrol
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pally blew his bubble in opening then proceeded to die after

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weeeeeeee

prime bear
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I always have king selected I believe

velvet quest
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i actually feel like if ur playing apex+pw into bm and the pets are on u thats really good right?

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but u also said ur struggling to connect, what caster is bm playing with? frost mage would def feel hard and other stuff like demo will peel with annoying cc but spriest aff ele etc u should generally have rly good uptime

livid wasp
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I dropped pw and I feel like I have an easier time keeping up rip on multiple

strange hawk
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How good is the feral rotation guide on icey veins? With it or just use Snupy’s YT guide?

safe heart
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Feral doesn't have a rotation

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You just keep up your bleeds , keep up bloodtalons

polar nymph
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True, I also don't use any damage abilities when I play Feral

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😛

solemn laurel
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why are horde so bad at pvp? i dnt get it

polar nymph
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jks

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Alliance has the best racials for pvp is why

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So the good players naturally shifted over to Alliance side.

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Gnome, Night Elf, Dark Iron and regular Dwarf specifically.

solemn laurel
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shame its not more balanced then

polar nymph
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Maybe that'll change with the rebalancing (probably not)

safe heart
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Dracthyr priests

solemn laurel
polar nymph
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I think you'll still see more Night Elf and Gnome Priests.

polar nymph
solemn laurel
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just seems like a major flaw to have 1 faction better at pvp than another

polar nymph
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A lot of people played Orc from Legion until the end of Shadowlands before they nerfed the passive duration reduction on stuns down to 10%

polar nymph
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And in Legion, also Blood Elf when it was still an AoE silence to have teams of triple Blood Elf.

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It's just the nature of things in a multiplayer game where ppl will flock to whatever is the strongest in droves even if the gained advantage is really small.

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You still have a lot of ppl using Orc on BM Hunter because it makes your pets do more damage.

solemn laurel
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i do rbg mostly atm - till i get more confidence- but flag maps, horde hardly even go for any flags

polar nymph
thorn dust
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There isn't really alliance or horde anymore though is there it's random what side you get

polar nymph
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That is true too

thorn dust
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Like the games that you're blaming horde players for dropping the ball could be mostly alliance players anyway it's just not really a factor I don't think

strange hawk
strange hawk
safe heart
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As much as possible but basically all the time

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You probably won't have it the entire duration of incarn but outside of that, pretty much

tropic schooner
strange hawk
solemn laurel
clear pulsar
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RBGs arent faction based

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Are you assessing player by player or what

tropic schooner
clear pulsar
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What enten is saying is

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Faction has 0 bearing on your game mode

solemn laurel
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random battle grounds yeah]

clear pulsar
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Oh random

tropic schooner
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(rbg does not refer to random battle grounds)

clear pulsar
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Ok

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The community tends to use RBG for Rated

tropic schooner
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but for that aswell I assume YOU are horde

solemn laurel
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yeah horde

clear pulsar
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Either way

tropic schooner
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so you get annoyed because you see your team not going for flags

solemn laurel
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i dnt get annoyed

tropic schooner
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and you arent looking at enemy team not going for flags cause you are winning so you arent tilted

clear pulsar
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I dont think faction matters in random bgs

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It's just easy to blame your faction when you're losing

tropic schooner
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I just dont believe you have actual data to back that claim up, both factions constantly whine that their factions players are worse

clear pulsar
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Yeah what enten said, it's easy to notice your team's shortcomings and not pay attention to the enemy also doing the same thing

solemn laurel
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im not titled or mind losing- im just making an obervation out of all the gamers ive played so far - alliance seem to play waay better as a team on average in moist maps

livid wasp
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I would say it definitely matters at least at the start of df

tropic schooner
livid wasp
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alliance is the faction where most pvpers roll cause of better racials

solemn laurel
livid wasp
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so the better pvpers will be on alliance

tropic schooner
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highly doubt that thats relevant for your random bg experience

thorn dust
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Ngl most people in random bgs just aren't trying that hard or don't care outside of getting kills since that's probably more fun than chasing an objective

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It's unrated most people probably just don't care about the win that much

tiny oar
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true

strange hawk
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With the warband changes for achievement progression being account wide, a lot probably have the 100 wins and want other achieves?

robust vigil
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I don't think it's fair to say there is a negligible difference between ally and horde.

Especially when you go on Murlock and see 48 of the top 50 rogues are night elf.

Back in the day Horde was known as the PvP faction....and currently it is Alliance. When I returned I had multiple people tell me to go alliance. Because " all of the serious pvp players played ally." So there is definitely a culture surrounding alliance being considered the pvp faction. And my queue times are longer on ally as well which also suggests more ally are queueing

I have four 80s two ally and two horde. I lose bgs on both. But I feel like I have more close losses on ally and more blowout losses on horde. But it's not super noticeable.

Where I notice it the most is getting air drops in open world. I've only ever gotten like 3 on my horde in the last two months and my first day of being 80 on my ally I got like 3-4 airdrops almost all of them non contested. And when I try to get airdrops on my horde I'm always trying to 2v10

rapid frigate
tropic schooner
thorn dust
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I don't think it's that big of an issue to have recorded data tbh

tropic schooner
robust vigil
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My data may not be accurate. Because for one most of them are different classes which will have different impact and I'll have different comfortability. And also the characters I have have existed from TBC and horde used to be the strongest faction.

thorn dust
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Alliance might be the perceived master class of factions atm like horde used to be and it for sure has the better racials since the changes but that more dictates arena games and 1v1

robust vigil
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Too many factors for me to simply post win/loss ratios to get meaningful data out of my percentages

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But I can post them if you want

thorn dust
tropic schooner
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but those stats werent recored

robust vigil
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So the data on my characters is from wrath?

tropic schooner
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only since wotlk were alliance was considered a lot better

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yes

robust vigil
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Gotcha

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Okay. Well I'll post in a moment for you guys

clear pulsar
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Yeah I think for as long as I've played/followed pvp, every tournament have been big majority Alliance races being played even when ladder was mostly Horde due to faction locked queues

solemn laurel
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i think im noticing it more as a boomkin - i cnt rly 1v1 many ppl which makes it tough to de-cap (i do try)

robust vigil
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For normal bgs queue times are significantly better on horde unless you're a healer on ally

solemn laurel
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and i find that wen i stay with the teama nd fight with my aoe - after the fight we dnt have any of the other objectives lol

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yeah we have the 'your faction needs more soldiers' buff

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which is why i think they should balance it out

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seems daft that you have a favourable faction

clear pulsar
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Max level characters are statistically 50/50 between factions

robust vigil
clear pulsar
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For bg blitz it's a bit more uneven but nothing outlandish

solemn laurel
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i dunno tht seems like a big percent gap to me lol

clear pulsar
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Well

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PTR for next patch has 10+ racials getting buffed

thorn dust
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They're not insanely huge tbf

robust vigil
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14% definitely isn't negligible

thorn dust
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Unless you're doing purely rbgs or blitz nelf or di dwarf are probably still the go to in most scenarios

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Maybe velf now for priest/mage

robust vigil
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Im not a statistics major but I'd estimate that if it was 1-3% you could attribute it to random error

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But 5% and above seems substantial

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Any big stats guys in here

solemn laurel
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if that was a pay gap for the same job - you would call it unfair :p

thorn dust
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But it's wow factions

shrewd marten
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14% is huge

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To visualize 10,000 people that’s a small sport stadium worth of people

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And it’s a 40,000 person gap

robust vigil
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I will say when it comes to making and gearing a new character, I'd rather go horde, and get less airdrops and win less bgs and have quicker queue times if I'm a DPS. Because hopefully even if I'm losing more games I'm getting into them fast enough to make up the difference

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So while the difference seems noticeable to me - especially when it comes to the airdrops (they are super lopsided) there's a trade off

solemn laurel
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yeah that makes sense

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and i thought my queue times were long!

robust vigil
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There are quests in Ashran and WG that give you 250 conquest each for completing. So I do them on all my characters while capping conq. Yesterday I waited in queue for over an hour on my ally DPS for ashran
Never got it. Cancelled it and queued random epic bgs and waited another 35 min

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I logged off before I got a queue

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But I get multiple air drops on him a day - most not even contested by horde and when they are contested it's like a 10v2

grand mesa
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Void elf might be nice

tropic schooner
grand mesa
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Changing the proc to 5% damage and healing or soemtbing and the spatial rift moves faster and can persist for longer or something

viscid remnant
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ihave shuffled on rdru

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fairly miserable experience

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but i got the set so all is well

tiny oar
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EPIC

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gg david

viscid remnant
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ihave all healer class set except shaman

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the monk set the season is amazing

tiny oar
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I forgor what it look like

viscid remnant
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sort of a samurai looking thing with bulls on the shoulders

random patrol
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#nerfshadowmeld

livid kelp
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anyone got a good mouseover macro for cyclone

stray sigil
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nuh uh

viscid remnant
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wym no

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it looks good

stray sigil
viscid remnant
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you play dk

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your opinion is not valid

late wraith
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True

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Monk set does look good

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Fuji has extremely bad taste it’s kind of wild

stray sigil
stray sigil
grand mesa
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Feel like it’s a good meta for u you’ve always been a MW/hpal enjoyer

viscid remnant
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mostly mw

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hpal feels awful compared to waht it was

grand mesa
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Disc still feels rly good

robust vigil
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And they were Chad before buffs

viscid remnant
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It got buff to some abilities and nerf to some

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You cant read

robust vigil
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I haven't heard anyone saying disc fell off

viscid remnant
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Because those people cant read

robust vigil
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Im sorry

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If you're talking to me

viscid remnant
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They nerfed the strongest premonition and buffed fol and radiance

robust vigil
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I'm too smooth brain to comprehend those combination of letters

grand mesa
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yeah

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think it's p neutral

viscid remnant
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Id say same

robust vigil
viscid remnant
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I feel as if mw disc hpal are all fairly in line

grand mesa
#

yeah

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solace is weird because the DR goes away after the shield is eaten anyway

late wraith
#

Are you done healing Fuji

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Is it time to heal me now

grand mesa
#

it's family time

late wraith
#

the fuck

#

is later time to heal me

grand mesa
#

ya i think so unless there's keys which i don'ttttt expect there to be

late wraith
#

just say no

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Void lady will be there all week

#

Spawning orbs or whatever nonsense she’s up to rn

viscid remnant
#

I think there was another change to solace

#

Maybe they reversed it

grand mesa
#

they nerfed piety too

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the +heal% part of it

robust vigil
#

Any one playing h pally right now doesn't have thumbs

#

They just want a carry

viscid remnant
#

riest

Discipline
    We would like to make some adjustments to Discipline’s hero talents to make Voidweaver slightly more rewarding since it requires a lot of cast time spells to dish out healing. Oracle’s single target healing is also being slightly reduced.
    Voidheart increases Atonement healing by 30% (was 20%) in PvP combat.
    Premonition of Solace reduces damage taken by 10% in PvP combat (was 15%).
    Premonition of Solace absorption decreased by 15% in PvP combat.
Holy
#

Discipline

Developers’ notes: We’re increasing Discipline’s direct healing throughput to help in situations where no enemy target is present to trigger Atonement. We would also like to nudge Discipline’s performance up in raid, particularly for Oracle.
Power Word: Radiance healing increased by 20%.
Flash Heal healing increased by 15%.
Premonition of Piety increases healing done by 20% (was 15%).
Preemptive Care increases Atonement duration by 4 seconds (was 3 seconds).
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nerfed solace in 2 things and buffed piety slightly

late wraith
#

Voidboy rising

viscid remnant
#

its probably neutral overall but flash buff is whatever

#

and same for radiance

robust vigil
#

Looks like net +

#

Buffs seem bigger than nerfs I can read fine but my addition is subject to scrutiny

#

So maybe I'm not 2+2ing

viscid remnant
#

Flash of light and radiance arent huge % of your healing

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Increasing small number doesnt increase alot

robust vigil
#

Ahh okay

#

20% to flash heal looks pretty OP

#

I thought flash heal was the classic class spammable cast like regrowth for rDruid or healing wave for shaman

#

But priests heal mostly through doing damage right?

#

So it's set up differently

#

You cant just spam healing throughput and expect to win

#

If you're only healing on disc priest and not doing damage you're on your way to losing or something like that

viscid remnant
grand mesa
#

flash heal got a bit better overall i think

#

since uh

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DF

viscid remnant
#

Havent played much this patch

#

Notsure

grand mesa
#

its that talent that stacks

#

they changed how it works

viscid remnant
#

No?

grand mesa
#

was a DF->TWW change

viscid remnant
#

This existed in df wym

grand mesa
#

it took longer tro get max stacks

viscid remnant
#

Maybe the numbers were different

grand mesa
#

it was like 1% up to x

#

yeah

viscid remnant
#

1 to 50

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Iirc

grand mesa
#

i should probably track max stacks of it tbh

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p[robably missing out on big flash heals

#

or i just don't cast it at all apparently jfc

lime light
#

it heals up to 1.8kk non crit

grand mesa
#

yea

viscid remnant
#

With max

#

Idk maybe iam flaming it for no reason

grand mesa
#

i don't think it's that big of a part of healing by any means

viscid remnant
#

Its like the top 2heal is attonement and pws and everything else is far behind so its not very relevant

maiden viper
#

y'all like taking typhoon for rdruid SS?

#

it feels powerful for one point but don't see many people running it

livid wasp
#

I dont see any ferals using it, ive tried not taking it but then ive found myself in situations where I miss having it

maiden viper
#

also see a lot of top druid running thriving vegetation with regenesis

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I've been missing out

clear pulsar
#

Really need to check out that value

maiden viper
#

I'm gonna try it for a few lobbies

#

full memes lets go

#

also trying this

grand mesa
#

I’d be shocked if regenesis was anything special

maiden viper
#

me too, but sending it a go

robust vigil
#

Chicanery

clear pulsar
#

So it's good value?!

#

Idfk

#

I dont believe in it

maiden viper
#

so after a few lobbies... eeehh

#

that point in waking dream is doing work though, keeping it

grand mesa
#

I just think the 2 points could be spent elsewhere that’s probably better but idfk im a pi princess now uwu~

maiden viper
#

this was from the longest game where I oomed

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... wait

#

this isn't even

#

wtf

clear pulsar
maiden viper
#

I changed my talents but they swapped back?

#

zzzzz

sinful canyon
#

bro does no one play wow pvp

#

im queuing solo shuffle on a saturday evening and im in a 20 min queue

#

at like 1600cr

thorny narwhal
#

your not playing a healer

sinful canyon
#

that i am not

#

is that just the main bottleneck

thorny narwhal
#

shuffle is horrible to heal so dps get huge queu times

#

it slowly gets better as you go higher because more healers like queuin

clear pulsar
#

Yeah healer queues are instant

maiden viper
#

thriving vegetation seems to be doing 4-6% of my healing, hitting on average for 150-200k , difficult to gauge how much work regenesis is doing tho

sick fiber
#

What are the 2 embells rdruid should use for arena?

#

Do we stack the heath distro?

maiden viper
#

I'm running 2x beacon but I have no idea if it's the best. I suspect they're all very minor increases

sick fiber
#

Ok thank for the imput

#

I think I am going to do the same

prime bear
stray sigil
#

@clear pulsar i heard u were tlaking shit

clear pulsar
#

^fuji fdk

stray sigil
clear pulsar
stray sigil
#

i did shit on a rdru

#

@clear pulsar

grand mesa
#

the only time he blows out the mic cause he's screaming so loud

#

is when he kills an rdruid

#

everything else it's like "nice"

#

the hatred is p visceral

stray sigil
clear pulsar
#

Lidl rat

tiny oar
#

I love killing other rdrus

#

me and axtin slaughtered some the other day it was lit

velvet quest
#

Dang just casually flexing the fact that you do arenas with awc cup winner axtin

polar nymph
#

Nothing like besting someone else on your spec.

tiny oar
velvet quest
#

As long as u weren’t doing skirms as a premade I think he’d be ok with it

tiny oar
livid wasp
#

you know people think you suck when they dont add btag after session

late wraith
#

did you both ride in on 90$ brutosaurs?

#

it's the ultimate flex

tiny oar
#

I do not have one sadly

#

but I'll get by on my poor girls expedition yak..

livid wasp
#

but its ok im low iq not everyone can be glad material

tiny oar
strange hawk
#

It’s also just a video game so who cares about your virtual number.

#

And I say this entirely as a non-glad

random patrol
#

iq over rated

livid wasp
#

I have like 6 loss streak in skirms

#

people are so shit

strange hawk
#

Common denominator syndrome

safe heart
#

your virtual number matters when you are in virtual space

strange hawk
#

Only if you let it matter

safe heart
#

like imagine saying something in this chat about anything but you are not a 6x glad

tiny oar
#

like imagine saying something in this chat about anything but you are not a 6x glad

#

what a crazy thing to type

strange hawk
#

Imagine typing.

tiny oar
#

holy fuck bro enji lost it

maiden viper
#

I'm so triggered that BM hunters are a thing

fiery rampart
#

yo, "new" player here. so...KOTG spec for 2v2 arena, if I understand correctly it's more of a utility/hybrid spec than Elune?

safe heart
#

its kinda crazy how every single person in lfg is like 2.9 5xglad xp

#

even at 0cr

fiery rampart
#

even i am 2.9 5x 😉

shrewd marten
#

Which healer is easiest

#

Help me!

viscid remnant
#

Me

viscid remnant
#

@clear pulsar i cooked up an rdru tree fr cuh

#

I sat down and read talents carefully

random patrol
#

kind of feel like emblem is really good for chicken atm prob just me though(health trinket)

viscid remnant
#

Its a decent defensive

random patrol
#

I mean its free hp into a heal

#

boomy needs all the defensives it can get

viscid remnant
#

If u are low hp when the trinket effect is about to be over then its dangerous

velvet quest
#

It doesn’t exactly make you take less dmg though throughout a game, feels like it’s only worth when ur against sub rogue and stuff where there’s frequent threat of 100-0 and u can also press it late and get benefit

solemn laurel
#

probably an easy question, why/is is keaper of the grove better in pvp? i do random battlegrounds and im testing keaper after playin with elune for a week

clear pulsar
#

Burst damage

livid wasp
#

it was so easy to climb 2.4k back in the day its kinda embarrassing to say im x3 glad

#

I just dont say my xp at all cause its so fucked up in arena

solemn laurel
#

wat do you all use for lookin up pvp rotation guides etc for bvalance mainly

#

ive looked at a few sites and vids but curious wat others have fiound too

tropic schooner
#

dont question zechey

strange hawk
#

Must question everything

viscid remnant
#

except a fella who shall not be named

strange hawk
#

Always question Voldemort

tropic schooner
viscid remnant
#

well its not voldemort

fiery rampart
viscid remnant
#

its an allegedly talented ret paladin player

clear pulsar
sand laurel
#

Is there someone who believes that Druid hero spec fantasies/ideas are pretty good/cool relative to other hero specs?

fiery rampart
#

I thini they are average

clear pulsar
#

I think it's about in line with most other classes I tried in beta

#

Only priest I thought was like distinctly cooler/better realized

#

Hunter, warrior, rogue, paladin, all about in line with Druid for me

robust vigil
safe heart
#

Xp does matter
Especially xp between shuffle and 3s

#

Like

#

You can tell someone who's xp is exclusively shuffle and someone who's actually pushed 3s before

#

But I never put glad xp in my apps tho

#

Even tho I've been glad before
Most ppl just go look me up on checkpvp anyway so they can just decide for themselves

livid wasp
gloomy nova
#

(As if there arent ppl who bought r1)

livid wasp
#

no I dont have r1

#

pretty sure people who bought r1 are in the minority and dont even queue

gloomy nova
#

lol

livid wasp
#

theres a world of difference between df any season glad and sl1 glad

gloomy nova
#

yes and no

safe heart
#

i only have sls2 glad

gloomy nova
#

When someone got a certain title is often irrelevant, rather achieving something consistently is whats usually a tell

safe heart
#

That's why my check pvp is cursed

#

S2 glad, s3 elite, s4 duelist, df s1 duelist, s2 duelist, s3 duelist, s4 legend
Kek

solemn laurel
#

does any1 run convoke the spirirts on balance?

late wraith
#

I think some people have been messing with it but it’s so much more annoying to use

#

You have to make sure you’ve either faked kicks and got precog or you need to ensure kicks and stuns are clear or you’re just kinda too far? And if you’re too far some of the spells are heal spells still I think? @clear pulsar ?? Is it still true that if you’re in range it’ll be cat and boomy but if you’re max range it’s boomy resto?

#

Like convoke is gonna have to be leagues ahead of incarn for me to ever consider that bullshit and as of right now it’s not so I’m incarn

clear pulsar
#

Something like that. There's a certain ratio of the Convoke spells that dont follow your form and they can be rake/thrash if you're in melee range of things

late wraith
#

Yeah so to maximize damage you need to be doing it in range. So you’re in stun range too. Not worth

#

People take it in dps 2s and use it as a huge heal

#

You also need dots on everyone in range or else some of the spells are going to be application of dots. It’s just so annoying. I usually just maintain dots on target and off target

livid wasp
#

and 1.6k arena

safe heart
#

Lmao

#

Actually tru

#

I'll say this tho

#

If you're In tune enough to understand the context for xp when you check someone, then you know what's up
And if you don't know what that means, then you are probably safe to assume the person you're inviting is good enough to play with you

livid wasp
#

like im 2.9 mmr in blitz and it feels like random bgs sometimes

gloomy nova
#

it is

maiden viper
#

man watching flops stream is truly depressing

#

teammates get murdered with unhealable damage

clear pulsar
#

Anytime now

#

We'll wake up one reset

maiden viper
#

just rotate CDs and then you die

clear pulsar
#

And be #1 spec

#

Trust the process

maiden viper
#

if I have one more lobby where a paladin charges across the map unpunished to hoj -> rep

#

I swear

grand mesa
#

So I expect Druids will get their 12.0 mechanic early and summon ancients of war

#

sometime in s2

late wraith
clear pulsar
#

Of DF

late wraith
#

Like they’ll run over and just hang out with me hello? Security?

#

Arrest this guy?

maiden viper
grand mesa
#

And the POTP nerfs kinda definitively killed the talent by then

#

but 10.0 rdru was super fun

stray sigil
haughty nova
#

Go bear when pally approaches for hoj

#

Or meld rake stun

tiny oar
drifting bough
#

hey question.. when is the right time to pop heart of the wild in arena?

#

also how do you survive double melee training you when you cant clone?

livid wasp
#

balanced

velvet quest
#

Bite bite bite

livid wasp
#

and rogue can do 3 bites dmg with one

late wraith
#

bite bite bite

#

zechey have you tried

#

bite bite bite?

velvet quest
#

Your highest bites are <600k?

late wraith
velvet quest
#

Just today I had back to back bites 1.1m each in 1 second it’s crazy u think one envenom for 1.7m is too high

livid wasp
#

maybe on cloth

random patrol
#

@late wraith hm tauren vs reg

#

Im leaning more hm these days cause extra vers and the racial doesnt dr with rake or bash

late wraith
#

meld is too good

#

meld cc, meld big chaos bolts, i can meld so many things. and i just don't feel i need more stuns tbh. i'm trying to stay max range and i play with a ww/rogue.

viscid remnant
#

Bla

tiny oar
#

blaaa

stray sigil
#

male troll druid

#

or bust

tiny oar
viscid remnant
hallow acorn
#

Anyone with a resource or some pointer for resto in blitz? Currently sitting at around 2k in shuffle but struggling a bit to make an impact in blitz and I know it’s a bit rng with teammates, comps etc. but what do you guys usually end up doing?

Team fight bot?
Fc maps is different and got a good sense there so more curious about the other aspects

modern helm
#

Nice name

viscid remnant
livid wasp
drifting bough
#

how do you play into melee cleave comps? i feel like i get trained through wall and defensives and just die. any advice?

viscid remnant
#

first u need to say what spec u are playing

drifting bough
#

feral, sorry

safe heart
#

bleed em both, use ursols and run away

#

i still kinda dont prefer to play primal wrath into double but you can

livid wasp
#

wish I was so good too

tropic schooner
#

we believe in you

livid wasp
#

must be nice with partners

tiny oar
#

u dont wanna be partners with his mage trust me

livid wasp
#

why not?

tiny oar
#

certified freak of nature

safe heart
# livid wasp youre over 2k nice

i got up to 2063 but couldnt get anywhere last night sadly
i was playing hpal jungle but i was kinda trolling towards the end and they booted me

#

i was like spam cloning stuff for some reason

safe heart
#

we were hard stuck for like a month and then the priest wanted to let off the gas a bit and not play every single night and the mage wanted to find ppl who play every day

#

i meant to reply zechy, lake already knew

#

but uh, we had other problems besides that that had been boiling up for a while

wanton ridge
#

still better than mythic raiding

safe heart
#

better than mythic raiding is like the wow equivalent of saying something is better for your health than smoking

drifting bough
#

ursols better than mass entanglemtn for double melee?

safe heart
#

like yeah slashing your throat for fun is better than smoking but youre still slashing your throat

safe heart
#

it forces them to waste alot more time getting to you

#

cuz they gotta
proc the pull-back
and with the hero talent, theyre actually still rooted
and even after that, theyre slowed

drifting bough
#

oh right the talent that causes them to also be rooted

safe heart
#

yeah

drifting bough
#

ahh thanks ill try

safe heart
#

i dont play the root thing atm but the more i play the more im certain its the play

drifting bough
#

and def go for 25% increased regrowth ?

#

thats what i heard w double melee

safe heart
#

definitly not

#

regrowth is piss

drifting bough
#

dayum ok

#

so once they get pulled back maybe clone one? just thinking of extra ways of peel lol

#

cause I never get a clone off against double melee

safe heart
#

do you have your precog gem

#

and are you familiar with juking kicks

livid wasp
#

best ive got is 1982 with jungle

#

with randoms

#

who didnt add btags so guess I wasnt good

rare vector
#

Fellas what is a good 3v3 comp besides spr feral that we ve seen in awc

drifting bough
safe heart
#

is being in the awc a requirement

safe heart
#

it makes you immune to cc and kicks after you juke

#

that will be a great benefit to you

drifting bough
#

lmao whattt

#

its a gem?

safe heart
#

yes

#

i have no idea what its called

#

or how to get it

#

because my friends helped me find it

#

@late wraith @velvet quest

wanton ridge
#

Cognitive Bloodstone

drifting bough
#

that seems so broken in low elo

#

i doubt anyone knows about it

grand mesa
viscid remnant
#

most ppl know about it

#

its not new

drifting bough
#

ok well cool maybe this will help me

safe heart
#

and also all ferals use it

wanton ridge
safe heart
#

its widely standard

drifting bough
#

wowww thanks for this

grand mesa
wanton ridge
#

im in a cool guild but until they add 10-man mythic and fix their fights so people dont require 600 weakauras, I'm gone lol

grand mesa
#

smells like ovinax

wanton ridge
#

they are at 5% on ovinax atm iirc, but I'm on the bench perma per my request

#

most I did was bring my 590 warlock alt to Rashanan just to put gateways down for an hour until their main lock showed up lol

late wraith
#

Like I’ll just watch an hpal cast repent in my face and be like dang. That can’t be good.

grand mesa
safe heart
grand mesa
safe heart
#

and it just kinda didnt pan out, i was going thru the motions i felt like, so i wasnt really mad when they booted me

wanton ridge
grand mesa
#

they're all recent ex DF HOF

#

actually better than myold squad

#

it's intersting

wanton ridge
#

and this is what I hate now about 20-man raiding, its hard to fill roster, so you end up taking people just to get to 20

wanton ridge
grand mesa
#

i volunteered to do the markers

#

since all i do is halo

#

BGB is love BGB is life tho

#

im kinda hooked

wanton ridge
#

I ran a bunch first week it was fun, but haven't pvp'd in a while, im addicted to gearing alts in m+ lol

#

highest key done is a 13, on my alt lol, cba with guardian druid anymore it's so boring in keys

grand mesa
#

i tried to bear

#

a key

#

i just fall asleep

wanton ridge
#

I made a mistake and gearing up my prot paladin

grand mesa
#

ppal u say?

wanton ridge
#

i do more damage at 610 ilvl than on my 629 druid

#

we pugged 2 more paladins to do this in a 10-wake, fun times lol

late wraith
#

Guardian is boring which might be why keys is boring to me

#

But it’s too late now this is the choice I made

tiny oar
#

:((

#

bear is good moral support tho!!

#

i get happy whenever theres a bear in my key

late wraith
#

Everytime I press iron fur and do some damage I feel like this

grand mesa
#

4 studs and a resto Druid

tiny oar
#

@lament schooner LOVE U

clear pulsar
wanton ridge
lament schooner
sly vector
#

Can someone tell me how casting heavy a boomy plays in battleground blitz? Is it mostly casting some instants or some casting mostly instants or only instants or only casting?

steel parrot
#

whats yalls haste looking like?

#

for feral

#

I feel so slow

safe heart
#

just whatever haste i have residually from my tier set pretty much

#

make sure youre playing lycaras

#

and use hotw to get fast casts when you need them

#

i think my clones are like 1.5s casts

sand laurel
#

I'm new to Druid - how does it feel that HotW is a 5 min CD that lasts a fat 45 sec? Makes you extra strong for a good while and then once again later in long matches? Is hybrid off-healing still good without HoT?

late wraith
clear pulsar
#

HOTW is mainly not for offhealing

#

It's good for bear defensive and it's good for Cyclone casts

#

If you're not boomie ig

clear pulsar
stray sigil
#

@tepid spoke do i post the sticker

stray sigil
viscid remnant
#

man i shufflemaxxed today

#

farm from 1.8 to 2.1

clear pulsar
tiny oar
stray sigil
viscid remnant
#

whats up pigji

tiny oar
#

fuji

clear pulsar
#

Leaked

viscid remnant
#

igot a new phonecuh

#

iphone 16cuh

late wraith
#

How can you even be friends you’re eu

viscid remnant
#

costs like 1 year of f2f pay

clear pulsar
#

You can add anyone

stray sigil
#

its jover

clear pulsar
#

It just shows they're europe

stray sigil
#

gg

clear pulsar
#

And you cant invite

viscid remnant
#

why do u want

#

me to add u

#

what is the point

stray sigil
#

i have the eu pigs

#

on btag

#

tian

clear pulsar
#

Also el patron pvelord @lime light

stray sigil
#

zechey

#

remi

clear pulsar
#

Dragonslayer

viscid remnant
#

iam not a pig

stray sigil
#

machtig

viscid remnant
#

checkmate cuh

#

gg

stray sigil
#

u play rdru

#

have to be a pig

viscid remnant
#

allegedly

stray sigil
#

no matter what

#

i dont make the rules

#

i just abide by them

#

bro flark flamed taxes last ngiht @viscid remnant

#

so i created a shitstorm in dk cord

viscid remnant
#

why is taxes noob

stray sigil
#

he is old

#

let him be

#

but flark is just

viscid remnant
#

flark old too

#

i fiarmed trille brattom

#

real and unedited

stray sigil
#

flark pushing 40 poppin veins in bgb

#

its real

viscid remnant
late wraith
stray sigil
#

dont go in there

late wraith
#

Don’t go in where?

#

Just show me the screencaps

stray sigil
#

oh u mean the flame

viscid remnant
#

i bet the whole discord is crying how bad dk is

#

feji do you know who amne is

stray sigil
late wraith
stray sigil
#

he dooms about uhdk daily

#

but dk cord

#

is full of fake schizo ppl

viscid remnant
#

u know what that guy does btw

stray sigil
#

wait

#

this the wrong cap

#

1s

viscid remnant
#

the most shizo personive seen

stray sigil
#

i had to get in there

#

and start shit

#

nobody flames taxes but me

viscid remnant
#

taxes rolled him

#

ucant lie about this

#

he yaps too much

late wraith
#

Imagine taking bgb seriously at all

#

Just go next you huge baby it’s free

stray sigil
#

its the only content where flark is relevant nowadays

#

mans hasnt been relevant in 3s since legion

viscid remnant
#

ppl that care about bgs should be locked in a mental asylum and have the key thrown away to mordor

late wraith
#

All the weird pedos who mained rbgs are in there

viscid remnant
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REAL AND TRUE

wanton ridge
viscid remnant
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its called pedoblitz

late wraith
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who is the dh guy

stray sigil
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i went in there

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and i legit talkshit

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and all he did

tiny oar
stray sigil
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was a big

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"no u"

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the entire time

late wraith
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The notorious sex pest who was in the top rbg group or whatever

stray sigil
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no fun

late wraith
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Who was real fuckin weird to a minor girl

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He takes bgb serious I bet