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halcyon hawk
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Consistency

livid wasp
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yeah well as a healer easy to think about the next 500 lobbies

halcyon hawk
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True but all of shuffle is about consistency

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Cause there’s too many uncontrolllable factors

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Like whether or not your team presses iceblock

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You gotta be consistent so you can capitalize off enemy mistakes when they happen too

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And win when you get lucky enough to

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Even pikaboo can’t win with a teammate that doesn’t use CDs

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But when things go right he’s consistent

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And can capitalize

livid wasp
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yeah

halcyon hawk
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In 3s it’s different ofc cause you can affect your team with good comms

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But shuffle is like poker

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Very Luck based with consistency in how you play being huge

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Utilising good hands and making the best of bad ones

livid wasp
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not as luck based as blitz

safe heart
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Shuffle is literally a slot machine
Idc what anyone says

random patrol
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so is blitz but with flag carry maps needing even more slots

clear pulsar
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Fine bro I didnt wanna play this shit spec anyways

tiny oar
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that is so fucked

torn rivet
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hey guys can i get some weakauras for feral? Never played it before

stray sigil
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@david

clear pulsar
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I will end you

tiny oar
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kill em face

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obliterate em

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fucking exodia their asses

clear pulsar
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The forbidden one

stray sigil
icy bobcat
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feral doesnt have a stealth bar like rogues?

clear pulsar
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No

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There arent any stealth specific spells

icy bobcat
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sadge

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like

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i wanna put on bind 3 in stealth shred

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but out of stealth fercious bite

clear pulsar
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Why do you want 2 Shred binds?

icy bobcat
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shred no gud?

clear pulsar
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You only need it in 1 spot tho

icy bobcat
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no like

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shred does more dmg and crit chance in stealth

clear pulsar
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There is no stealth bar because there's nothing usable only in stealth like rogue has with cheap shot, sap

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Right, and you still use Shred outside of stealth

icy bobcat
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i see

clear pulsar
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It's not competing with Bite for button presses

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So having both on the same bind and shred only available in stealth

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I dont know where that comes from

icy bobcat
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whats is the main combo point builder ?

safe heart
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brutal slash

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but youre playing bt

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so you need to use all of them

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pressing rake out of stealth is better than pressing shred unless you specifically dont want to stun the person

icy bobcat
safe heart
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blood talons

icy bobcat
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ah ok

icy bobcat
stray sigil
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shred having amp dmg in steal;th

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is just a nice bonus

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for ur incarn window

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u dont play around shred stealth at all

icy bobcat
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thought of shred as the ambush for feral

stray sigil
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no

clear pulsar
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Incarn changed from being 'does stealth damage'

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A while ago I think

clear pulsar
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Shred and Rake are your core builders outside of stealth and they do something extra in stealth

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That's it

icy bobcat
clear pulsar
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Right, doesnt mean anything for keybinding the spells

safe heart
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you havent asked this question in snupy's chat yet and it shows

icy bobcat
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oh well

stray sigil
clear pulsar
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Sudden ambush

stray sigil
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yeah ud still press rake over shred in that

clear pulsar
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And yeah if you just deliberately don't wanna stun in pve you just shred

stray sigil
clear pulsar
stray sigil
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what channel we in sir

clear pulsar
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Or maim

clear pulsar
stray sigil
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let him shit his pants

clear pulsar
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I will shit your pants

stray sigil
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u rake opener = rake more dmg

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= i stun

safe heart
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when i play vs ww i usually open with shred so theyre off drs for serenity

stray sigil
icy bobcat
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oh nice snupy hass a full guide

safe heart
clear pulsar
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2 lobbies in a row with a warrior vs triple kiting caster and an hpala with freedom

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Unwinnable lobby

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Completely unwinnable

stray sigil
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dispell him

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DISPELL ME NOW

tiny oar
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annihilate the competition

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devour that hpal whole

clear pulsar
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I'm helping

random patrol
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weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

tiny oar
random patrol
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#Lakebear soon

viscid remnant
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Wooo

tiny oar
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lakebear will rise I will be top bear EU

clear pulsar
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But this

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Pls dont set your mind to this

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Inshallah

viscid remnant
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imean you could set your mind to maybe playing it in blitz ? who knows

tiny oar
tiny oar
tiny oar
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average pvper moment

viscid remnant
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NA gaming

clear pulsar
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Average weapon crafter

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Still wearing multiple honor items

random patrol
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lawl

icy bobcat
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guys does feral use both thrash and swipe?

tardy hare
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Brutal slash replaces swipe

livid wasp
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I wish I could queue 3s skirms to practice

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but its all these pleb 2s skirms

livid wasp
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its really tough playing the multidot thing with cyclone against teams with a mage and a rdruid

icy bobcat
icy bobcat
wary stirrup
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He was

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But he got excommunicated

atomic field
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Do we want proc-trinket or on-use trinket for feral for arena?

safe heart
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Was using enhance weapon for like 200 rounds

icy bobcat
wary stirrup
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Thaderyls hairline happened

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Allegedly

icy bobcat
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XD

polar nymph
quaint rapids
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Idk if that site is good or not

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Afaik you could even use the defensive one, though I don't think feral needs it that much this season

safe heart
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I use the insignia

clear pulsar
safe heart
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Supatease = bald

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No further questions

robust vigil
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Hey guys, I want to set it so my dispellable CCs on friendlys show up huge to get my attention So I can dispel HoJ and poly, cause if the icons are small I probably am going to miss it

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Im currently using normal WoW raid frames, better blizz frames, and big enemy debuffs

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What would be the best way to set that up?

clear pulsar
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Do you mean BigDebuffs for that last one?

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Cuz it does what you're saying already

grand mesa
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I made a WA for this

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@late wraith

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😂

clear pulsar
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Puzzle we need to find a massive weakauraer

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For the starfire stacks

grand mesa
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@halcyon hawk

clear pulsar
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None of these weakauras on wago are actually even accurate

halcyon hawk
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huhhh

grand mesa
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For the regrowth count?

clear pulsar
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But none of them also look like what I want them to

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I'm just too dumb to make one

grand mesa
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I would want to know when my currently casted regrowth will trigger it

clear pulsar
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Yes

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That

grand mesa
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So I can do the spell queue thing u showed me

clear pulsar
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Would be sick

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Taking into account lifeblooms

grand mesa
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Yeah

halcyon hawk
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Im lazy

clear pulsar
halcyon hawk
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I can make it

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I can make anything

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Filter this by The War Within

clear pulsar
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So you're puzzle's secret supplier

halcyon hawk
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uhuh

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that'd be me

grand mesa
halcyon hawk
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when did puzzle get such an adorable dog as his pfp

grand mesa
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2004

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It’s probably dead now

halcyon hawk
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I'm playing FIFA so I will be unable to reply soon, DM me or something with the thing u need and I shall do it when I have time and if I'm able

clear pulsar
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Kk I'll spam you more than puzzle ever could, make no mistake

halcyon hawk
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lool

viscid remnant
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what is this

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addon guy weakaura

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showme

grand mesa
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Gismo ur gonna learn some tech im sure not a lot of folks are aware of making the wa

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for face

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some starfire tech

robust vigil
halcyon hawk
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I'll look DM's after FIFa

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cant throw for my buddies

velvet quest
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Since you guys are here does anyone know where to find the spell IDs for spell locks? Like I want to add a debuff to plater that shows when my kick lands

clear pulsar
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Maybe in bigdebuffs code

robust vigil
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Anyone know which week the conquest cap goes away

velvet quest
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Probably around the same time you’d be able to get full conquest gear if you didn’t waste any. Maybe like 5 weeks? But wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a bit sooner either

velvet quest
# clear pulsar Maybe in bigdebuffs code

Yeah might have to do this or look for a weakaura that does the same and try to find them all. It’s kinda a lot of effort and I don’t usually land any kicks so maybe I don’t need it

clear pulsar
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-- Interrupts

[1766] = { type = INTERRUPT, duration = 3 }, -- Kick (Rogue)
[2139] = { type = INTERRUPT, duration = 5 }, -- Counterspell (Mage)
[6552] = { type = INTERRUPT, duration = 3 }, -- Pummel (Warrior)
[19647] = { type = INTERRUPT, duration = 5 }, -- Spell Lock (Warlock)
    [132409] = { type = INTERRUPT, duration = 5, parent = 19647 }, -- Spell Lock (Warlock)
[47528] = { type = INTERRUPT, duration = 3 }, -- Mind Freeze (Death Knight)
[57994] = { type = INTERRUPT, duration = 2 }, -- Wind Shear (Shaman)
[91807] = { type = INTERRUPT, duration = 2 }, -- Shambling Rush (Death Knight)
[96231] = { type = INTERRUPT, duration = 3 }, -- Rebuke (Paladin)
[93985] = { type = INTERRUPT, duration = 3 }, -- Skull Bash (Feral/Guardian)
[116705] = { type = INTERRUPT, duration = 3 }, -- Spear Hand Strike (Monk)
[147362] = { type = INTERRUPT, duration = 3 }, -- Counter Shot (Hunter)
[183752] = { type = INTERRUPT, duration = 3 }, -- Disrupt (Demon Hunter)
[187707] = { type = INTERRUPT, duration = 3 }, -- Muzzle (Hunter)
[212619] = { type = INTERRUPT, duration = 5 }, -- Call Felhunter (Warlock)
[31935] = { type = INTERRUPT, duration = 3 }, -- Avenger's Shield (Paladin)
[217824] = { type = INTERRUPT, duration = 4 }, -- Shield of Virtue (Protection PvP Talent)
[351338] = { type = INTERRUPT, duration = 4 }, -- Quell (Evoker)
velvet quest
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Ty tho that helps a lot

clear pulsar
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What if I told you this is all fake

velvet quest
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I’d call you a rat

clear pulsar
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These are just the kick spell ids

wanton ridge
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idk why people add evoker spells in their weakauras when the class is going to be deleted in 11.1

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(maybe if I keep saying that it will happen for real)

velvet quest
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All my homies hate evokers they can go

clear pulsar
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I'm just bing chilling

viscid remnant
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Dh lookin ass

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Absurd defiance

clear pulsar
grand mesa
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If I recall there wasn’t like super easy spell Id for specific spell locks when I made my bigdebuffs Wa thing I had to use combat log. Dont remember exactly tho

tardy hare
icy bobcat
tardy hare
icy bobcat
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ah i see

livid wasp
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I fucking hate frost mages

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so overpowered

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too many defensives

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idk why its the go to target so often even

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every minute they alter time for 10 seconds making them unkillable

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two ice blocks

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constant blinks and kiting

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and now they got that aoe freeze thing too on 30 second cd

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so fucking broken

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more broken than anything else in the game

gloomy nova
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Easiest way to get spell ID is to search for the spell on wowhead. When u click it and get to that "page", the spell ID will be in the link

quaint rapids
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Or use an addon that shows ids in tooltips

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Like tiptac

quaint rapids
livid wasp
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its so god damn cancer dealing with them in almost every game

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almost makes me just not wanna play at all

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fucking annoying

quaint rapids
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It's so fucking toxic

Pld starts shit
Starts loosing
Immunes (can still do full dps btw)
Starts losing again
Bop
Starts loosing again
Lay on hands

livid wasp
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some holy pala mage holy shit

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fucking endless defensive cds

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I fucking cba

quaint rapids
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On the bright side, our bleeds still dumpster hunters through turtle

livid wasp
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our bleeds dont do shit

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arenas havent felt this shit in a long time

quaint rapids
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DF S3/4 was way worse imo

livid wasp
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not really

quaint rapids
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and the tmog was shit

livid wasp
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I had a lot more fun

quaint rapids
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For glad

livid wasp
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now every game is just a struggle

viscid remnant
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U need to simmer down

livid wasp
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so horrible

viscid remnant
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Idk

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I wouldnt get too worked up abt cr arm

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Atm

velvet quest
viscid remnant
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Rootd

gloomy nova
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Not sure why u want that but i think u can find anything like that on wowhead

vestal citrus
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otherwise advanced combat logging maybe? but doubt it

velvet quest
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is there even an associated debuff when you get kicked? ive looked in pve logs and dont see anything when i kick something. mostly just want an easy way to add some spell id to plater but if it requires a whole new weakaura anchored to nameplates i prob wouldnt bother

vestal citrus
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Nah

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I don't think so?

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silence and shit yes ofc because it's tied to a debuff but the lockout itself no

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I imagine it's a protected aura/function because it'd be scriptable if it was viewable

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maybe if you were using a lua unlocker and shit but that will get you bannerino'd

livid wasp
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its so fucking unfair

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and I have to play this fucking shit season

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cause then everyone will talk how I didnt even get elite

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when feral was op

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even though for me it feels like the worst ever

gloomy nova
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Tbh, and i say this with no intent to be a douche, but if ur doing really bad as feral this ssn maybe play smth else

livid wasp
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feral is just fucking straight ass garbage

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so squishy

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and hardly any damage

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im not doing anything wrong either

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im dotting everything I can

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so fucking frustrating

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never been this frustrated in this game

grand mesa
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Atleast afaik there’s no simple spellid for when ur interrupted. My wa I think the trigger was like look in combat log a successful interrupt, the name of interrupt, and to just show the icon for a set duration and I looked up how long each kick lasts for separately

gloomy nova
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Because feral is S+++

livid wasp
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its fucking garbage

velvet quest
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have to go to a delve cause too hard to land interrupt in pvp

grand mesa
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What’s the use case for all this?

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Cause obv big debuffs does this all for you on a nameplate

velvet quest
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i dont use bigdebuffs

grand mesa
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Oh that’s right u use the special auras or whatever for plater and 70 grow from the right side of nameplates

livid wasp
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I wish they removed pvp

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so nobody would have to bother with this

grand mesa
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@halcyon hawk can u make zechey a weakaura where it hides/blanks out the pvp tab completely

gloomy nova
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@livid wasp

  1. MMR is capped so what u normally are at, isnt what ur at right now.
  2. Maybe you are at "your mmr" (as in reached your skill ceiling)?
velvet quest
livid wasp
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why cant they make pvp easier

halcyon hawk
# livid wasp why cant they make pvp easier

There’s numerous reasons. Not enough people play pvp for it to be a money incentive to fix. And the people who do have been stuck with it for 10+ years and they’re too addicted to quit no matter how much negligence PvP receives

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And wow devs know it

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It’d be a huge undertaking to fix wow PvP and companies never do things that aren’t profitable that are that much work

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Which means the only people who PvP are people who have done so for 10 years + and you now have to compete against them, good luck.

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😎

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Which is hard.

zenith swan
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That answer is incredibly accurate, I just really don't like it lol

livid wasp
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this just is fucking shit

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even shuffles go shit

velvet quest
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It’s not shit, if you feel stuck it just means you found the rating where you naturally belong

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So either get better and climb or stay there

livid wasp
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im so tired of this shit

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feral has never felt this fucking shit

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its so fucking useless

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I just wanna kill myself

velvet quest
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So useless that every awc rogue has been trying to learn it yeah

livid wasp
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so why do I have such a hard time doing anything compared to any earlier season

velvet quest
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You’re probably not doing enough damage

livid wasp
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it should feel really good if feral is so op

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but it feels like trash

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every game is a fucking struggle

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cause nothing dies

zenith swan
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It's really different, but good different imo. There's a weird flow you find after beating your head in every game

livid wasp
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I ahte this shit so much

zenith swan
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Are you using maim to set up clones or are you using it on the kill target?

livid wasp
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on the kill target

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youre not supposed to set up clones anymore

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like that

halcyon hawk
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I find climbing to the top of my spec easier when less people play it

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It’s normal

stray sigil
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its not always true

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or alwasy wrong

zenith swan
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See i had a feeling, i was curious. It felt like a waste when I was using it for setup

velvet quest
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What youre doing is clearly right zechey, that’s why it’s working so well

halcyon hawk
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@livid wasp play to have fun. If you have fun you’ll play more, you’ll be less frustrated and you’ll learn more. Then you’ll be better and have even more fun

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Having fun is winning.

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I had the most fun when I sucked at rdruid cause whenever I learned new things it was such a huge leap

livid wasp
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this game isnt fun

halcyon hawk
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Now I’m perma stuck at top 50 with no improvements in sight for years to come and every game I feel like I’m getting trolled or am sucking

halcyon hawk
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The whole point should be to enjoy the game and get better and enjoy getting better

livid wasp
halcyon hawk
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Wow is like the game I play to relax and zone out

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I’ll watch tomorrow

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Tonight I must sleep

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And opening a link with sound would interrupt this very important scratching no voice asmr that’s helping me fall asleep

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Ok I looked but since I don’t play feral all I can say is you should have someone like snupy or such vod review your stuff

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If you rly wanna improve

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Or skillcapped or anything rly

stray sigil
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dont pay for vod reviews pls

livid wasp
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that feral was like fucking 0 cr

stray sigil
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waste of ur money

livid wasp
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and I struggled

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fucking pathetic

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he did more dmg

late wraith
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zechy who did your banner art for you

stray sigil
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hes cleaving

late wraith
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it's nice

stray sigil
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bm pets

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and ur not

livid wasp
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no

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his st is higher on my hunt

stray sigil
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he did 100m

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51m was on hunter

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and wat l;ike 20m is u

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lol

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he 100p padded on pets

livid wasp
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hanjamuffin did my banner art for me

late wraith
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you won that

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cause i'm watching you

livid wasp
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theyre so shit but every game is a struggle

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almsot died

late wraith
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you did yeah

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you ran away though

livid wasp
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barely

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it used to be far easier

late wraith
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alright but it's not easier anymore

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and you're adapting to it being not easier

livid wasp
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but everyone says feral is super op and its super easy now while its not

late wraith
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i mean people say shit all the time

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that doesn't make it relevant to you personally

livid wasp
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its what everyone says

late wraith
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glyph will tell you "just find an r1 healer" like okay. i'll get right on it.

velvet quest
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if its hard how is the 0 cr feral doing more dmg than u

livid wasp
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I dont know

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you tell me

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4 min queue

late wraith
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what's the mmr?

livid wasp
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shit

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like 1.8k

late wraith
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it's pretty deflated rn no?

livid wasp
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not that deflated

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1.8k is pretty shit

late wraith
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eyyy

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u shit on a pally that's gotta feel a crumb good

velvet quest
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can u actually track all ur stuff and figure out who ur bleeds are on with this ui? just wondering

livid wasp
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im used to it

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those games I streamed didnt reflect my sessions today at all

velvet quest
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idk what addon it is but if theres an easy way to remove like half those debuffs i prob would

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u can say ur used to visual clutter but its just objectively bad to have to look through useless info to find the useful info

late wraith
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i'm good luck

livid wasp
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look at some of these ferals I lost to today

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so fucking sad

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I just wanna bang my head against a wall

late wraith
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eh move on it's fine

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you fixate too much on losses

livid wasp
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this guy has 319 games in shuffle and 1615 cr

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holy shit

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so depressing

late wraith
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yeah but what does that mean in the end. like it's irrelevant

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he didn't 1v1 you

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people beat r1s all the time.

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doesn't make them better than the r1s.

livid wasp
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like my partners were low xp but I dont think his partners were that high xp either

late wraith
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it's just not relevant

livid wasp
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like I wouldnt mind it as much if feral was just really trash bottom tier spec

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but now when its supposed to be really broken

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and I struggle more than ever

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holy shit

livid wasp
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worst feeling ive had in a long time

late wraith
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zechey if feral was trash and a 1600 feral beat you i promise you'd be tilted

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i promise you'd be in here raging

livid wasp
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it never happened before

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I fucking sweeped the floor with them before

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now its like theyre suddenly so good

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and im useless

late wraith
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because you put way too much stock into shit like cr and junk like it doesn't matter. game is pretty hard rn.

livid wasp
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feels horrible

haughty nova
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is there a point in having a dedicated bind for cancelform other than to dodge fear beast or hibernate?

random patrol
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I've pretty much stripped down my ui as much as possible cause I suck arse at tracking stuff

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I just use shift 1 for "cancelform" but it's really my rejuv button with cancel form baked into it

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pretty much never use it now though

empty gyro
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anybody playing convoke in BGs/blitz? seems like a nice trinket bait (into a clone cap), or a nice finisher after opening with our bleeds.

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(as a feral)

haughty nova
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yeah for some reason I have a very comfortable bind for it, seen somewhere folks recommending as such. but I can't think why I should ever press it other than to avoid those 2 ccs

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since when i cast the heal it auto cancels anyway. probably also good to have in case I'm root beam'd and I'm in cat/bear, but can't think why it should take a premium bind

safe heart
livid wasp
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it just kinda sucks how many clones we gotta cast and we get no reward for it anymore

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gotta tank a million kicks while being nuked

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grounding totems etc

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idk I hate the game atm as feral

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I feel like a total noob after playing for so many years gosh its shit

tiny oar
torn rivet
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does anyone have someting similar?

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dont need the 3rd debuff tho

clear pulsar
late wraith
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Who are you, do you even play this game anymore?

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like by the time your feral is max level it’ll be nerfed and you’ll be 40

stray sigil
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AKSHTUALLY

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i sent shuffles on fdk today

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it was legendary until it wasnt

torn rivet
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oh another thing, I am wondering if anyone uses arena/1/2/3 kick? Do you wild charge + kick or just kick? I feeel like i might not have range a lot of the time

late wraith
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playing fdk loooool

stray sigil
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u couldnt fathom playing a hard spec ik

late wraith
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U couldn’t fathom playing feral, the thing you invented, even when it’s meta

stray sigil
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feral boring

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its true

late wraith
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w a s h e d

clear pulsar
stray sigil
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u pve all game

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boring

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fdk atleast u have some setups

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more fun

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it is terrible though

clear pulsar
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Some people use arena1/2/3, some people use only focus and target kicks,

stray sigil
late wraith
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It is yeah

clear pulsar
late wraith
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Stop making your own life hard

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Difficulty impossible

torn rivet
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got ya

stray sigil
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how is it cope

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if u just pve on fdk u lose 100p

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unless u play

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the bigdam comp

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but im talking shuffle pig

clear pulsar
#

Every spec has setups. Yours is just trash so you highlight them more cuz you do nothing if you dont outplay people

stray sigil
#

so i am better

#

thank you

#

gnome brother

clear pulsar
#

No you just play a bad spec to feel like a snowflake

#

Youre worse

stray sigil
#

face couldnt fathom having fun

clear pulsar
#

I play a bad spec cuz I'm a ride or die, LOYAL

stray sigil
clear pulsar
#

We are not the same

stray sigil
#

then went fotm resto

clear pulsar
#

Reroller scum

stray sigil
#

do not speak to me

#

swine pig

#

u are fotm reroller

#

i am the opposite

#

i am anti fotm

clear pulsar
#

I have mained the same character for 7 years

#

You are reroller

stray sigil
#

HOW LONG WERE U FERAL

#

HOW LONG

#

500 DPS FERAL

#

@DAVID \

clear pulsar
#

Tbh not that long

#

I've been resto for longer atp

tiny oar
stray sigil
#

says lake

#

that has 200 characters

#

and barely plays rdru

#

OK BRO

tiny oar
#

I STILL PLAY RDRU GET OFF MY ASS

stray sigil
#

@clear pulsar i hope i q into u one day

#

i will devour ur ass in shuffle

clear pulsar
#

Pause

stray sigil
#

Pause

clear pulsar
#

Bro it cant be that hard

#

I queued with this arms warrior 3 shuffles in a row

#

He was whining in all of them cuz of not being able to hit casters

stray sigil
#

i qd into caster lobbies only today

#

u think i had fun

clear pulsar
#

But he was just tilted and not even trying to play. Felt horrible tho cuz 2 lobbies were vs hpala

clear pulsar
#

And I could only play not to lose to the warrior

#

Cuz it was unwinnable without freedom vs frost mage, evoker, mm

torn rivet
#

another question, is it possible to macro Brutal Slash -> Shred (once slash stacks run out) on 1 button?

tiny oar
#

unluckyyy

clear pulsar
torn rivet
#

why not?

clear pulsar
#

So this is why nobody answered when you were asking for macros

torn rivet
#

da fuk is that supposed to mean

clear pulsar
#

Macros are just a targeting tool. They dont rly do shit for you, and theres nothing special about it

#

Theres no "feral macros" like doing 2 or 3 spells at once or some secret tech that makes decisions for you

torn rivet
#

thats not a secret tech, thats useless bloat

tropic schooner
clear pulsar
#

So when people ask "yo give me macros" nobody has an answer to that because thats just not a thing

clear pulsar
torn rivet
#

what are the cases when u dont want to brutal slash?

clear pulsar
#

Banking charges is good for quicker CP building when you're doing more burst
Brutal slash being aoe will break CC so you dont wanna hit aoe all the time.

#

Generally youre banking brutal slash for your tigers fury, and you want to avoid using clearcast procs on brutal slash

stray sigil
#

as a fdk

#

wanna talk about fun

torn rivet
#

I see, didnt think about that

clear pulsar
#

That sucks

#

Nothing makes me more sad in wow than playing vs evoker

#

I played some feral spr today

#

And feral's not even too bad for chasing them

#

But it's just so perma upsetting

tropic schooner
stray sigil
#

but

#

dev is the single most unfun spec

#

to play against

#

literally complete bullshit spec

#

idc

#

1 button

#

cant be slowed

#

fuck that spec

clear pulsar
#

And if you dont touch them they double your damage pressing 2 spells

stray sigil
#

90% slow

#

nice spec man

clear pulsar
#

Its insane

stray sigil
#

literally an easier bm hunter

clear pulsar
#

I cant believe you keep saying I'm not a feral

stray sigil
#

absolute pig spec

clear pulsar
#

I literally picked agi weapon from achieve

clear pulsar
#

I inted my shuffles being honor weapon for 2 weeks cuz of it

#

For resto

#

Insane feral player

#

Nothing but feral

stray sigil
#

now show mmr

clear pulsar
#

Go ahead and hate

#

idiot

tiny oar
#

REAL

#

UR SO BASED FACE

#

LOVE U BESTIE

clear pulsar
#

Lake I was out there in the trenches today

#

In Amirdrassil, I solod 3 bosses so I could farm the fish form

stray sigil
tiny oar
stray sigil
#

i played at 2.1 vs dno on pres

#

its lock city and sps only

#

in shuffle

#

i hate it here

#

fought 1 melee that was a feral i globaled in opener and the sp left

clear pulsar
#

Spr is honestly oppressive

clear pulsar
stray sigil
#

lock and sp just mega aids for fdk

#

takes too long to kill

#

no ms

#

easy to fuck ur go

#

like everygame was likea 80% damp

#

fuck caster lobbies in shuffle

robust vigil
late wraith
#

grats!

tiny oar
random patrol
#

@tiny oar yeah druids are tanky 1 minute cooldown 351k shield

polar nymph
#

Feral is 🙂

random patrol
#

@tiny oar 351k just think about it

#

saves you from that last 350999 dam

#

I would love survival instincts

clear pulsar
#

If you really think about it it's a 500k absorb

#

MUCH better than you think

random patrol
#

Im memeing

tiny oar
#

or u just avoid it in the first place cuz ur a druid and can just clone shit / run away from anything u want

random patrol
#

thats how I play now

#

I just run away

polar nymph
#

Just take HotW 🙂

#

heh

clear pulsar
#

Tf why is your shield much bigger than mine

random patrol
#

irony Ive had that talented and vigil feels better

#

@clear pulsar bg prob

polar nymph
#

Nature's Vigil ain't bad.

clear pulsar
#

Idk I was in pvp scaling

polar nymph
#

But it's more of a teamwide thing

clear pulsar
#

Oh it's a boomie thing ig

random patrol
#

does it scale off of total health

#

Im also a tauren

clear pulsar
#

In resto it was like 50k lower

random patrol
#

ah yeah

clear pulsar
#

Nature's Vigil is trash

polar nymph
#

Probably bear form bonus vers affects the absorb too

clear pulsar
#

AG is legit 5x as good

polar nymph
#

A lil bit

clear pulsar
#

NV makes me rly sad

#

Have never seen it do more than ~2M raw healing per cast

#

AG does 10M

random patrol
#

some top chickens arent even running well honed anymore

stray sigil
random patrol
#

mostly corkiri though

#

Ill keep my regen proc crutch

clear pulsar
#

Even if you hit perma into clothie with 0 defensives full uptime during incarn I dont think you can get NV to do more than like 3, 3.5M healing

#

So pathetic

polar nymph
#

Symbiotic Blooms' 20% bonus to healing apparently affects FR healing

clear pulsar
#

Yeah

#

It does

polar nymph
#

Feral is legitimately way more tanky this xpac than Boomy

clear pulsar
#

Keeping regrowth up very important

#

Ooookay calm down lol

random patrol
#

ferals need their claws trimmed

polar nymph
#

That plus Swarm affecting FR

random patrol
#

come here kitties you can trust me

polar nymph
#

Meow

random patrol
#

(don't declaw real cats though)

#

just wierd people turning into cats

clear pulsar
#

8% DR from regrowth being up is infinitely better than 20% self healing at 30% uptime

#

They even get their own instant regrowths now

polar nymph
#

How many casts is it to get it?

#

5?

stray sigil
#

what about king of jungle

#

with all other mods

random patrol
#

I rem when we had people thinking that ec was the play with chickens

#

....................... lawl

clear pulsar
#

All of that already existed in DF

#

I'm just comparing the hero talents that are new

#

Did you think feral was way tankier than boomie with king of the jungle in DF?

clear pulsar
# polar nymph 5?

5 Starsurges. Pretty doable cuz stacks overflow so you can have proc up and 'bank' 4 stacks

#

For instance

stray sigil
#

dont u have more healing in u now thru hero talents

#

bot rly the same as df

random patrol
#

I average 12-13 surges while bursting not hard

polar nymph
#

Feral's damage being tied to casting Clones all game and Biting to create pressure made them more vulnerable too than right now

#

Also able to take movement speed talents much easier this xpac so you can escape easier.

#

It all adds up along with Wildstalker healing increases.

#

Both from yourself and from your healer

#

I also have a way easier time keeping Ferals healthy when healing them too on Holy Priest this xpac.

#

They just take way more healing.

clear pulsar
#

They take 4% more healing than they did in DF

random patrol
#

"runs hibernate into cats not cause it's great but cause it's funny

polar nymph
#

Bark and SI also 10% more effective from Oakskin talent.

#

Just a bunch of extra additional things that add up.

#

I get your trepidation because on paper they all sound tiny but I've definitely noticed that everything together it's much easier for Feral to not just get put on the back foot all game long.

haughty meadow
#

do boomys run starfall in rbgs? what about wild mushroom?

polar nymph
#

No Wild Attunement also opened up space for a different PvP talent.

clear pulsar
clear pulsar
polar nymph
#

That's not what I'm trying to say

random patrol
#

@tiny oar this brought me joy

#

sleeping the cat

tiny oar
random patrol
#

you play cat I put you to bed

#

sleep little kitty

random patrol
#

good kitty

rustic heath
#

Played some 2s with a disc (the dps hero talents) man it was fun! But im really surprised that fear and clone is the same DR… im a retail pleb i guess, we played that comp wotlk and im used to clone being on its own dr

tiny oar
#

clone on it's own dr would be the most disgusting thing in existence

rustic heath
#

Yeah i figured, really fun anyway

clear pulsar
#

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

#

Have you guys ever considered not getting crit for 3M damage?

viscid remnant
#

demolished

clear pulsar
#

It was incomplete

#

Actually 50% in one spell

#

This was kind of a whatever round at least, dps mismatch was all in favor of enemy team

#

Lobby was doomed to 2-4 from losing the 1st round

lofty pike
#

hey all, what items should I use Harmonized Silk on? should I get the renown shoulders+gloves? or conquest for upgrade?

viscid remnant
#

Wtf is harmonized silk

viscid remnant
lofty pike
#

the item to make your tier piece

clear pulsar
#

Use the achievement token on legs or chest, use catalyst for the other 3 (not helm)

#

On a conquest item

clear pulsar
#

Wcyd

#

Just go for big dam starfires

viscid remnant
#

only hpala can heal in that damp

#

but disc can do big damgur in damp so its good

#

rdru got a whole lotta nothing

clear pulsar
#

Wrong

#

I got bang bang starfire

viscid remnant
#

show me thedamgur

#

i wanna see

clear pulsar
#

I'm about to leave home, later I show

viscid remnant
livid wasp
#

maybe I gotta clone more idk im confused some people say just do pve but when I watch other ferals they clone plenty

random patrol
#

looking at new boomy talent tree Im guessing either waning twilight or denizen won't be ran anymore do to how it was redone

#

who knows though

clear pulsar
viscid remnant
#

Click on that

#

How many casts is that

clear pulsar
#

7 Starfires

#

5 Starsurges

viscid remnant
#

very interesting

livid wasp
#

ghjghj

clear pulsar
#

Good morn zechey

livid wasp
#

hello how to play feral

lofty pike
#

bleeds

#

then win

halcyon hawk
#

If you play with a comp where clones are helpful you gotta use them to win

#

But let’s say you play with a demo lock and you clone enemies on his tyrant burst, you’ve just guaranteed a loss

#

Or you spam clones when playing with another bleed class like affli or assa rogue. you’re ruining the damage

#

Cloning people is especially good when you can clone a defensive cd and remove pressure or when you’re setting up for a kill.

#

It depends on what comp you’re playing

#

And what you’re facing

livid wasp
#

I just try to clone on big def cd if healer isnt cc

#

or to peel

#

I played jungle with hpriest and some feral spriest destroyed us

#

some best xp duelist feral too

#

that triggers me that feels so shit on my ego

#

how do I ignore the ego

#

I think learning to ignore it and learning from every game is the way to r1

#

but how do I do it its impossible

lofty pike
#

For feral what's your ideal big damage rotation? Tiger, Rake, Brutal, Shred, Berserk, Rip, Claws (5pt skill), Rip, Dot that increases bleed damage can't remember name?

livid wasp
#

theres really no damage rotation with feral

#

I just keep bleeds up with bt

#

and use proc on rake

#

and try to bite with bt too ofc

halcyon hawk
#

What does it matter

#

Even a blind chicken can find seed in the grass. or whatever.

#

Only times I look people up are when they shittalk me

#

Then I'm always pleasantly surprised that they're awful

torn rivet
#

is everyone buying 4 set?

livid wasp
#

its cause I seek copium that at least the feral was r1

zinc wadi
#

BG Blitz is the most cooked shit ever. What do you mean enemy has 2 dks 2 frostmages, 2 augs and a MW to flag carry and we dont.

#

just lost rating at 900 cr, I didn't think that was physically possible

#

lmfao

fervent river
#

im new to feral and i dont understand what to do when i face lineups that juts train me in solo shuffle

#

it feels like i end up in a vicious circle of not being able to keep anything up and still dying in bearform so i do 0 dmg running all the time

livid wasp
#

youd still beat me probably

safe heart
#

if you guys figure it out ping me

polar nymph
#

You don't want to spend much time in Bear Form.

fervent river
#

alright thanks 👍

stray sigil
#

is u ppl are over indexing on clone like its df with ff on clone

#

or u dont ever clone and just pve

clear pulsar
#

Yeah it's less cloning as a setup to then do damage

#

More of a cloning to get pressure on a dif target and make healer squirm

#

That's how it feels that good ferals make me mad at least

#

Fuji wouldnt know anything about that ofc

velvet quest
#

Would druwude make you mad?

clear pulsar
velvet quest
#

Pistachio is level 73 but he’s still rising

late wraith
#

face what about littlebean

stray sigil
late wraith
safe heart
clear pulsar
#

Cloning low

#

Very easy to waste a big gcd into it too

grand mesa
#

Ns

stray sigil
#

and whenever we have drs up

#

it is known

clear pulsar
#

It's ok I get the kills now

#

I'm kill securer

stray sigil
#

ks

grand mesa
grand mesa
#

Naw he’s doing dbl starfire tech

#

😂

clear pulsar
#

For all the damage that it does

#

I still havent got a KB with it

grand mesa
#

I was wondering

#

Cause u love to send death details when u do that and I haven’t seen any yet

#

Like ur silly on use wep from DF

clear pulsar
#

I think it's cuz of the damage happening to both teams at once

#

Since cd timing is generally similar

#

So when my team is going

#

Their team is also going

#

I'm healing

#

Or CCd

#

But I for sure force cds

grand mesa
stray sigil
#

deadass \

viscid remnant
#

Hpala only ethical

#

Jump around spam instants

stray sigil
#

wrong if u look at meh twitter

#

disc is perfectly balanced having cocoons every gcd

#

but hpal is op for healing 6m every 30s

stray bison
#

so is the consensus that rdruid next patch will be even worse than now…?

stray bison
#

After mw mobility nerfs though would rdruid be a pretty good fc for blitz?

clear pulsar
#

Rdru is gonna be #1 healer next week

#

Easily

viscid remnant
#

No cap cuh

polar nymph
viscid remnant
#

You guys really dont think hpala is broken tier????

#

You guys got some good drugs

polar nymph
#

I despise HPaladin meta

viscid remnant
#

Iguess na is for fun region

#

Iforgor

stray sigil
#

but meh is a condiment

#

so idc

polar nymph
#

It's true

#

NA is the for fun region

stray sigil
#

pot calling the kettle thing

#

WAH WAH hpal so broken

#

plays disc

#

ok bro

viscid remnant
#

Hpala is fairly braindead

polar nymph
#

If Disc wasn't busted I'd see only HPala

stray sigil
#

so is disc atm lol

viscid remnant
#

Idk

polar nymph
#

When Disc is strong it's the most popular spec in the game

viscid remnant
#

I see more hpal than disc in 3s and shuffle

polar nymph
#

People flock to it

#

I see both, but I definitely see Disc the most.

viscid remnant
#

Ill look at reflex tomorrow

#

Who nose

stray sigil
#

70 hpals above 2.1

#

64 disc above 2.1

#

just as euqally dumb

#

kinda similar in na

#

but ppl play less shuffle it seems

polar nymph
#

I saw another Holy Priest today, was a nice change up

#

Every triangle is a love triangle if you love triangles.

#

True or true?

surreal heron
#

ew

polar nymph
#

no u

safe heart
#

I'm gunna play rsham to force myself to have a bad day

late wraith
#

i don't think hpal is broken i just think everyone that plays one is a bad person

#

it's different

safe heart
#

Discipline priest should be a tank spec

polar nymph
#

It is one

safe heart
#

If you have any questions, no further

livid wasp
#

disc isnt even that good compared to holy pala

late wraith
livid wasp
#

why do people play shit like holy pala/ele/spriest

#

litrally unwinnable as fmp

polar nymph
#

I'm proud of Zechey for moving on from being a Jungle only gamer.

livid wasp
#

too bad fmp is trash

livid wasp
#

and im just playing what I can find on lfg

safe heart
#

I don't think fmp is trash but it's not the free wins I thought it would be lol

#

I haven't tried just gold parsing on ppl tho

#

So I'm hoping our next session will allow us to achieve 1800

livid wasp
#

I just wish they removed arena

#

so I didnt have to bother with this ever again

safe heart
#

Lately I've found a solid middle ground with if there's 3s to queue I'll play but if I'm not guaranteed to play 3s, I don't even consider playing

#

Have no interest in pushing shuffle

livid wasp
#

now I had to find some low xp hunter to play

#

cause I wanna play

safe heart
#

No interest in 2s

livid wasp
#

why is holy pala allowed to be so broken

#

they shouldnt be allowed to have both bubble and bop

stray sigil
#

they were i nthe dirt for like 2 xpacs

#

id rather play vs hpal than disc/rdru personally

grand mesa
#

Let hpals have fun they’ve been sitting out for a long time

clear pulsar
#

Ok you dont have to shit on rdru every chance you get bro

#

Fucking fuji

#

I'm people too you know

livid wasp
#

I like cant focus any game

#

arena is so aids now

safe heart
#

I mean according to everything I've heard zechy

#

The harder you try rn as feral, the more you're just trolling
Like just dmg bot

#

It's honestly kinda blessed, feral can be 1 brain cell spec for a bit

livid wasp
#

but it doesnt work

#

you gotta clone at perfect times too

#

just dotting all 3 doesnt do shit

#

you do big dps but nothing dies

safe heart
#

Face said it earlier
Get someone low, clone him then blast something else

#

I'm legit gunna try that tn

#

And if I gain cr

#

I will send face 5k gold

livid wasp
#

then I get flamed for cloning when he couldve died

safe heart
#

Tell em too bad

#

If they weren't losers they'd be playing d2r instead

velvet quest
livid wasp
#

nice fucking uh dk rsham warr just fucks me

#

they all just sit on me and we cant do shit

safe heart
#

Stun everything
Ursols

livid wasp
#

how is that supposed to help anything

#

nothing dies

#

im playing jungle now

safe heart
#

Sick that's my favorite comp

livid wasp
#

too bad its trash

#

fucking spriest holy pala bm

#

good luck beating that

#

cant do shit

safe heart
#

I wanna try feral sp

#

That comps so fuckin hard , esp with an hpal lol

stray sigil
livid wasp
#

im jealous of pvers

#

getting their dopamine from completing dungeons

#

no pressure ever

#

no feelings of shit

#

not all this complete and utter deep dark frustration they have to deal with

safe heart
#

I am also jealous of pve'rs

#

It's kinda insane that in pve you don't get punished for anything so you can only go up

#

Like imagine you could only gain cr

livid wasp
#

true

safe heart
#

I would need a static group for pve to hard swap to it tho

#

Left to my own devices , I am competitive

livid wasp
#

and you can kinda easily get better at it

#

studying your rotation and the tactics of the dungeon

#

bis routes and shit

gloomy nova
#

if ur a feral u have no right complaining about the game rn

#

just accept that u are bad

livid wasp
#

feral has never felt this shit to me

#

I used to be able to push but now im stuck

gloomy nova
#

ur stuck because ur at ur max

#

u are where u are supposed to be

livid wasp
#

no

gloomy nova
#

yes

livid wasp
#

so why would I suddenly get so shit

gloomy nova
#

what ur rating and what was ur rating in DF?

livid wasp
#

1935 is my cr on main atm and I dont remember

#

2.3k or something best in 3s

gloomy nova
#

Sounds about right