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livid wasp
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yes

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take any feral fotm reroller theyre hardstuck 1.4k

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im down to play later

lime light
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more like 2.4k

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hardstuck

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every feral is insta 2.2k

livid wasp
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just the ones who were already r1

tiny oar
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:)

lime light
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hmm no

viscid remnant
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Absurd defiance

lime light
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big davido?

viscid remnant
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r1s at 1.9

lime light
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play or busy

viscid remnant
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Still qing

lime light
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do ppl have 4 set for pvp?

viscid remnant
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only if they have 1 item from pve

clear pulsar
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Next week is 3rd catalyst

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Right?

viscid remnant
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i think yes

low hazel
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what slow is reducing my speed by what seems 90% that doesnt break on shapeshift?

lime light
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dk's pets could be

low hazel
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Was fcing yday and just couldnt get anywhere

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is it dispellable or smn

lime light
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should be ye

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could also be the dragons lazor

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with a honor talent

low hazel
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pretty sure there was a dk on me so pet sounds about right?

lime light
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yep

low hazel
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so many new things to learn on retail lol

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I'd assume its a disease?

lime light
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its just a normal slow, but bugged

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think they were trying to fix it

low hazel
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uuf

lime light
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and fucked up again

low hazel
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rly tough being hit by it in the middle of the map and just having 5 of them catch up to me

lime light
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there was also one more slow

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that it even ignores the freedom

clear pulsar
lime light
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that was the pets one and the were somethign else

low hazel
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ye coulda been a dh as there was one but is it 90%?

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I was almost walking backwards

lime light
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also D n D

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slows for 90%

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but it decays

low hazel
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something I can do or do I just need support lol

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I guess that would depend on what the slow was

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but im still learning the icons

mild sigil
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been theorycrafting how blizz could fix feral in pvp

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for me these changes would fix alooot of problems ferals face atm

strange hawk
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Buff Resto

mild sigil
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hows resto doing atm?

clear pulsar
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That is pure delusion

mild sigil
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havent seen many tbh

mild sigil
clear pulsar
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Spec is top tier and you think it needs 17 buffs and 2 nerfs to compensate

mild sigil
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i mean they can nerf damage i want the toolkit

clear pulsar
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Buffing what is already the strongest things about it too

mild sigil
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read the other things

clear pulsar
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Banger suggestions such as

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  • Talent changes
mild sigil
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so slow from infected wounds is not a good idea in this day and age? or buffing SI too?

strange hawk
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No instant slow ability should be close to or more than something you need a GCD or half GCD to apply

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Nerf rogue slow

mild sigil
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or actually make regrowth heal more than 2% and more like 15% hp heal

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on 6m bar

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i just wish feral felt like a hybrid not a glasscanon with cosmetic buttons that dont do anything

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regrowth is such a waste to press atm

strange hawk
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So we want feral s++++ tier and not just s+++ tier?

lime light
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that must be a troll @mild sigil

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pls say yes

mild sigil
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there you go

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fixed it

lime light
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making lvl 110 spec to lvl 150 spec

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feels kinda weird

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but sure

mild sigil
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wdym i put nerfs there

lime light
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u dont clone in this meta, since dmg is too broken

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bite is just cosmetic

mild sigil
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yeah i know

lime light
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everything is doing holocaust dmg

mild sigil
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but people complain about it alot so i rather lose few secs on clone baseline

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and get the changes i ask for toolkit wise

lime light
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just baseline nerf all of feral dmg by 20%

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move on

mild sigil
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40% slow , roots not breaking instantly , biger duration on SI and regrowth actually healing

mild sigil
lime light
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frost mage is fine

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sub is okish too

mild sigil
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LMFAO

lime light
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fury maybe bladestorm nerf

mild sigil
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ok mage main

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alter time 2x block heal

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ok

clear pulsar
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I dont think frost is super overtuned but it has 0 counterplay and it feels bad

mild sigil
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youre a troll

clear pulsar
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It's like aff but aff is overtuned before the inc nerfs

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Disc is both overtuned and 0 counterplay

mild sigil
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i can atleast kill affly , frost heals when he presses alter again

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and 2x block with coldsnap

lime light
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u must be new to this game

mild sigil
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mf heals more than hybrid class

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lmao i play since 2009

lime light
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so u should dive deeper into the game

mild sigil
lime light
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cuz u dont know anything

mild sigil
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sure buddy

tropic schooner
robust vigil
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Frost seems like one of those underrated underrepresented sleeper specs. I always see unholy dks. But the few frost dks I've fought have been pretty tough. There's probably a reason everyone's on unholy though

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I don't play DK so I don't really know

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Kinda like survival hunters

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I never fucking fight a survival hunter

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But when I do...they are little bastards

lime light
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its about frost mage

viscid remnant
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The recent nerf lowered how big shields got

robust vigil
lime light
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idk IMO

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they need to move like 30%-35% of healers healing

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from instants

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to casted heals

robust vigil
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As a rogue main, I agree

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Except rDruid

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Make rDruid instant HoTs only

lime light
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anyone watching awc

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not sure why jaime is not on ele XD

tropic schooner
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aoe2 final

lime light
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lol

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thats a vibe

shy snow
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big final

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go hera

tropic schooner
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🐍

tropic schooner
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I know not much about either of those games (in terms of strats - havent played either in prolly 20 years tettleslul ) but I occasionally tune in

lime light
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i like aoe2

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but i was cheating mostly

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to build a big empire

tropic schooner
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oh as a kid

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I perma cheated too in those games

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in both

lime light
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yeah haha

tropic schooner
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e=mc2 was aoe1 I think

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and photonman

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or no

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those were 2?

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who knows

lime light
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think it was the same in aoe2?

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e=mc2

tropic schooner
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I remember

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the cheat for food was pepperonipizza

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but I was young

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and couldnt write that

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so I just traded for food

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and cheated other resources

shy snow
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2

tropic schooner
shy snow
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photoman was in 2

lime light
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haha is there more money

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than in awc?

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XD

shy snow
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bro ahah was about to say

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but its sponsered by redbull so yea

lime light
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45k usd for a person, no?

shy snow
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ye

lime light
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dude, but blizzard

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is not a 10 man company either

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XD

tropic schooner
shy snow
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and better production too

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ye

lime light
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haha yeah

shy snow
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people playing music, like

lime light
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where is it haha

tropic schooner
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spain

lime light
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ah ye

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can they cheat tho?

tropic schooner
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probably

lime light
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ok its so hyped for some reason lmao

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i wanna watch that instead of awc

tropic schooner
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the funny thing is the advertisement in the "red bull wololo" tourney is less cringe compared to league

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where the casters talk about some red bull baron powerplay

shy snow
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watch awc playing the 2000th game of RMP vs some other bot class like BM

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or watch this, mmm

shy snow
tropic schooner
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yea

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its so stupid

shy snow
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thats the most cringe line

tropic schooner
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agreed

lime light
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i dont evnek now

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what to expect

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if the games are pyk pyk

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5 min and done

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or it lasts for hours

clear pulsar
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Pyk pyk

lime light
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rush b pyk pyk?

tropic schooner
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from my observing hard rushes are very rare

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id say most games are ballpark 15-20 mins

clear pulsar
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Rapture is better than resto druid pressing every single button at once

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Wtf are these shields

shy snow
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dont think you can really rush in aoe, idk

lime light
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ddue the map is so small

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wtf be

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wtf he is invading already

shy snow
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you cant really wall in early

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its not like sc

lime light
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wtf bluye won

livid wasp
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katzenspalten?

lime light
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nah, iam not gonna play wow for sometime

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d4 time

livid wasp
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why

lime light
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iam gonna play d4

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new dlc

livid wasp
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but we had fun

lime light
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wow is just boring for me, it was just temp game

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ngl i like crushing ppl without using a single brain cell

shy snow
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bro this guy is commenting on the game while another guy plays classic guitar in the background ahah

tropic schooner
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dont be serious

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dota tourneys or sc2 homestory cup

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my jam

lime light
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are the resources infinite?

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like the gold

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the wood

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the stone

tropic schooner
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no

shy snow
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no at some point the map runs out of resources

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only farms but technically without wood you cant rebuild them

livid wasp
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the real sc2

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aoe 2 tournament has more viewers than wow arena tourney

shy snow
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I forgot how troll conversion was ahah

tropic schooner
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weve been talking about that for a while

lime light
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haha

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viper won, no?

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he has the castle

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in the middle of the map

livid wasp
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thats a very serious tourney name

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wololoo

shy snow
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but not won yet

lime light
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ok

shy snow
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he has siege stuff going

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and stronger navy

lime light
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wtf why the castle is burning

shy snow
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trebuchet

lime light
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he is playing

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POLES

tropic schooner
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like both of them have 140 each and 60 pop army

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have to say tho that those game issues they have is a bit annoying

lime light
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yeah

shy snow
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jesus wtf is going on

lime light
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he has dks

shy snow
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legit killing castles with infantry

livid wasp
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damn

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the tourney in an actual castle

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so much soul

tropic schooner
livid wasp
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man

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im not puzzle I dont read the whole chat

hasty raven
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looks like feral pvp dream is over atleast feral was on rogue level for 2 weeks !

velvet quest
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yeah looks like feral is completely unviable in pvp now, all feral mains can only pve

hasty raven
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haha didnt say unviable but they got dominated in AWC by rogues this week 🙂

velvet quest
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the ferals got dominated or the teams that played feral got dominated?

safe heart
velvet quest
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looks like rogue pvp dream is over atleast rogue was on feral level for 2 weeks !

safe heart
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Here's the progress boys

livid wasp
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slugma balls

tropic schooner
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wait wtf happened in the aoe thingy

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I took a break watching and played a solo q league game

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and they are still at 2-0

livid wasp
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technical difficulties

tropic schooner
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im sure it was EP ddosing them

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cause poles lost

robust vigil
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Does anyone know how do I turn in the "No Mercy For Merciless" quest? It won't let me turn it in in my wintersgrasp BG. Do I have to travel to the zone?

And if I do have to go to the zone. What's the best way to do that, do I have to select the wotlk chromie first or can I just use the dalarn portal

velvet quest
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have u tried clicking the quest to complete it?

robust vigil
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Like just clicking the quest itself?

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I did click it to highlight it on my map and that didn't complete it. Also the quest giver disappeared after the BG started

velvet quest
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u dont turn it in to anyone u just click it in ur log and complete it i think

robust vigil
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Gotchu I see what you're talking about.

viscid remnant
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@livid wasp how did feral win

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op?

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btw thats the comp i queued today

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hpalferalaffli

livid wasp
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I wanted to queue

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im watching aoe2 tournament not awc

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even though I am clueless

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what gamemode are they even playing is it regicide

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the other side just suddenly won, was there just a surrender or something

tropic schooner
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its rts 99% of games are won via forfeit

livid wasp
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guess they can see if theres a chance of comeback or not

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only played aoe2 super casually as a kid kek

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sounds super stressful to play any rts competitively

tropic schooner
tropic schooner
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I tried a tiny bit a few years ago

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but I really couldnt get back into the unit controls

clear bloom
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Northgard my favorite rts. Low unit count so it's a lot about Microing a small army of like 12-15 dudes on average. The economy is very push and pull. all units eat food so you can't just have a massive standing army all the time. There's siege tactics like starving people out. Much easier on micro side but harder on macro side.

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actually most popular it's ever been rn since covid.

viscid remnant
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Lot of words

tiny oar
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real

fallen trellis
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Are we talking about the wololo cup

livid wasp
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we did

edgy shale
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cdew hacking moving in clone

tiny oar
edgy shale
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he was moving in clone

tiny oar
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spatial paradox moment or?

edgy shale
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no i think it was just a visual bug but it looked funny

tiny oar
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XD

fiery trellis
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are there any resto buffs coming on tuesday?

clear pulsar
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40% cen ward

fiery trellis
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ty

tiny oar
tropic schooner
tiny oar
clear pulsar
random patrol
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@tiny oar "looks at disc priest and decides to play it all wrong including stacking worst secondary and wrong hero talents"

viscid remnant
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El segundo

random patrol
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yw

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@tiny oar crit and voidweaver

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yw

tiny oar
past fossil
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do boomies want the haste vers gear?

hidden sphinx
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Pin seems to be mostly about arenas. In BG blitz anyone running wild stalker? I get grove is probably chiller and sit back but I like the idea of being able to get in there on a dude when needed. Pin makes it sound like wild has lower healing on multiple so maybe not worth it in BG?

fallen trellis
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anyone has a macro to unshift to cast cyhclone?

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cyclone

safe heart
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You can just cast cyclone

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It'll unshift you

random patrol
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I was wondering how my wrath hit for 2.5 mill, it was a saltwater wrath on a tank, moving on...............

random patrol
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@tiny oar rip those 2 mm hunters I 1v2 earlier, just bullying bgers farming honor for alt

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that should be enough honor for alt then

wary stirrup
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Dead chat

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Time to spread paladin propaganda while the mods are sleeping

pulsar merlin
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What should I craft and embolishment? Looking at Snupys main feral. He have helm and bracer? What embolishment tho being Feral?

tropic schooner
lime light
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ok who won

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yesterday

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the aoe2

tropic schooner
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hera

lime light
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i fallen asleep in one of the "pauses"

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ah oki

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what was the score?

tropic schooner
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5-1 iirc

lime light
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ah nice

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thats gonna be EP today

strange hawk
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What’s the least deflated bracket right now, is it BGB?

tardy hare
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Easily blitz

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By far as well

lime light
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u mean, easier to get high?

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then ye, thats the blitz

tardy hare
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Answer is also Blitz then

tropic schooner
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lol just checked rating numbers

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people >3k in blitz

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any other bracket like 2.4k max

lime light
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for shuffle its capped

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at like 2255 or something

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in 3s, there is few ppl with glad mount

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2s should be purged

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and rated bg i dont know even, it wa salways dead

tropic schooner
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but yea always needs some time

tiny oar
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very epic game mode that i will not be doing

tropic schooner
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but still

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2.4 is top 100

robust vigil
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@clear pulsar last night I watched a good portion of that 3hr Flops guide you sent me the other day.

He seems super knowledgeable at the class and it's really thorough.

I don't know how much still applies and what has been changed. But he talks about haste always being best on resto druid because it reduces GCD for spreading hots and swapping in and out of forms.

Most of the druids in Murlock I see are using mastery. So I'm not really sure how tp gear my druid lol. My gut is to go with Murlock but I wanted to verify

shy snow
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blitz players are just better

tardy hare
tiny oar
tropic schooner
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anyone got a recommendation of what to set up for pvp?

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might actually go play the game instead of just sending AH

lime light
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alcohol drinks or joint

tiny oar
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LOL

tropic schooner
lime light
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something that u can hit, when u get trash team (very often)

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i dont drink, so cant rly recommend

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but in poland its mostly vodka

tropic schooner
lime light
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vodka with vodka

tropic schooner
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20k league games

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im resilient

lime light
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haha

tiny oar
lime light
tropic schooner
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oh no

tiny oar
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thats what im using now too

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idk what happened to gladius

lime light
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and weak auras

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andu good

tiny oar
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exploded or sumthing

tropic schooner
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I meant more

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spec

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no clue what I would want to play

lime light
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ah

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sp is rly tanky

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boomkin sucks outside of blitz

fallen trellis
tropic schooner
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which some addons can access directly

fallen trellis
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Ah

tropic schooner
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but without addons you need to input a command

fallen trellis
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Ah it must have been the skillcapped addon

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Thanks i will look for it

tropic schooner
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there at least used to be a macro for regrowth for feral

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to prevent unshifting if you dont have the procc

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but that macro doesnt work anymore

fallen trellis
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Yeah thats what it is

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Yeah thats what it is because even when i spam regrowth i wont unshift

robust vigil
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Ty for clarity

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On Murlock it seems like people spent their initial heraldries on belt/ring/neck for resto and are chosing vers/mastery

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Is that the way

tiny oar
robust vigil
tiny oar
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i crafted haste mast everything and just whatever off-pieces have vers

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we are pretty tanky naturally so can get away with a bit less vers

robust vigil
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Haste/mastery gotcha

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Ring/neck/belt?

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Or necklace and 2x rings

tiny oar
robust vigil
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Yeah gotcha I figured eventually everyone will end up with 2x rings

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And 4-5 crafted pieces

viscid remnant
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I BECAME ALEGENDARY MEMBER

lime light
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what does it mean

viscid remnant
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haste = lose mana = lose game

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big TRUE

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did u guys wathc america awc yesterday

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absterge 50% mana 1minute into the game

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all chat was flaming him

lime light
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i was watching aoe 2

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was he rdru?

viscid remnant
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on every healer he queued

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but mostly disc

haughty nova
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Sterge was def not the one to blame for their loss

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Not any one person really. It's a team problem

safe heart
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sterge carried every time

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need to boot him and get a real healer

lime light
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they need EP

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on fjury woyer

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pyk pyk pyk

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damgur

livid wasp
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we need ep back from d4 to play katzenspalten

lime light
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every single fury warrior is better than me

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in lfg

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i just do damage

robust vigil
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Is there an addon you guys use for healing bgs just to make the numerous frames more accessible

lime light
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use the start UI

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its the best

robust vigil
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Start UI is an addon?

lime light
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no, but its super flex now

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i meant....WoW UI

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thats the thing that is in the game

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already

robust vigil
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Oh gotcha

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Yeah yeah

lime light
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i show u rly quick

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u can move that shit whenever u want to

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make it bigger / smaller

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then go here

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check the things here, like i have

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get addon

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"bigdebuffs"

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and u are rdy to go

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big debuffs will show the most important things on the raid frames

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like things u can dispel

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or CC in general

robust vigil
cedar rivet
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My buddy is a ret paladin will not play anything else. I am playing feral we have bee struggling in 3's. Is feral/ret/priest worth it and if so any tips. Please send help

safe heart
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i mean its not really a comp but you can probably do fine with that

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what is the reason you guys are struggling

robust vigil
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In my observation Its typically better for most people to play the class they like/ Comfortable on than FOTM class. Unless you're like a r1

cedar rivet
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If we don't get a kill in the first or 2nd go it just seems impossible. All they have to do is train me(feral) and nerfs our dmg

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ah ok

robust vigil
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As far as CR/MMR goes you won't be promised better results by swapping

cedar rivet
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Yeah we are not swapping

safe heart
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sounds like ur ret is probably not using his cds well to help you live

viscid remnant
safe heart
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either that or you guys are blowing too much in the opener or something
really impossible to say without seeing but
if you guys are dying after 2nd go, then youre trading to many defensives

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make sure hes hoj'ing healer, your maiming kill target on cd

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maybe clone healer off the hoj if possible but dont get too horny for that

cedar rivet
safe heart
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ret has bop and sac to help you, if he uses those, try not to use skin/wall

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etc

safe heart
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even more reason to just stick with it and play better then

quaint rapids
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this isn't feral related but i don't have anyone else who really does pvp enough to appreciate this clip i saw

tropic schooner
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that shaman player being a bit confused

quaint rapids
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i just ove environmental kills

lime light
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@cedar rivet i personally thing this comp is rly good

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keep slaying

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spam damage

steep briar
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does anyone know why my help/harm macros dont work on pvp units, only pve?

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#showtooltip
/cast [mod:alt,@player] [@mouseover,help,nodead] Cenarion Ward; [@mouseover,harm,nodead] [harm] Starsurge; Cenarion Ward

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that one does not cast starsurge onto a player

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but will on a training dummy

clear pulsar
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No idea

robust vigil
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Is rdruid/MM strong rn for 2s

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My buddy plays mm. We did some 2s last night and I was on my rogue. We went 10-6 and beat some good comps but I assume we are going to hit a wall and I'll need to swap

clear pulsar
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Yeah it's good

robust vigil
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Ty. I knew resto/bm was solid so I figured it wouldn't be bad but thought I'd ask

burnt merlin
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smb with the same issue?

rancid laurel
burnt merlin
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still grey

rancid laurel
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can q tho

burnt merlin
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lol

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indeed

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wtf is this bug

rancid laurel
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idk i figured they finally just closed the doors on the 5% of their customer base that plays rated pvp

burnt merlin
sonic plank
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anyone know if spring blossoms hot procs wildstalker bloom?

clear pulsar
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It doesn't

sonic plank
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rip

tropic schooner
livid wasp
quaint rapids
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you see

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shaman class tree falls under the philosophy of "i should get everything i want"

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where druid is "you need to make choices"

livid wasp
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what could cause the max lvl required bug to happen

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there wasnt any patch or shit

gloomy nova
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Type /run PVPQueueFrameCategoryButton2:SetEnabled(true)

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It will still be grey but u can click it and queue

livid wasp
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yeah I read about it but its weird

gloomy nova
#

the whole universe is weird

livid wasp
#

true

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maybe a cosmic bit flip caused this bug

past fossil
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is pvp disabled atm? ranked says that the feature becomes available at max level

cedar rivet
#

there is a bug

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no ranked

gloomy nova
#

Read the last 6 messages in this channel

safe heart
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Why can't I queue rated pvp?

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It says I have to be 80

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But I definitely am

gloomy nova
#

ur penis is too small 😦

safe heart
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Why doesn't the tool tip say that then

gloomy nova
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u need max lvl e-peen

safe heart
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Like 629 ilvl

gloomy nova
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u need 640

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new requirement

safe heart
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Idk how to get ilvls

tropic schooner
clear pulsar
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Can somebody tell me

gloomy nova
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Yes

clear pulsar
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How to show change the reagents value to use max rank mats in Auctionator?

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@tropic schooner assist me

tropic schooner
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id use craftsim

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not sure why you awnt to

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like what is your goal with checking?

clear pulsar
#

'-' to check the total cost of reagents at max rank instead of cheapest rank?!

tropic schooner
#

id say legit easiest way

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to just do it yourself

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but craftsim can do it

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might have to set prices for things tho if there are bait posts up

clear pulsar
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I have no idea what you mean with any of that. I'm not a crafter I just wanted to know the price at max rank at a glance. I can look it up manually sure

tropic schooner
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with that im saying craftsim is an addon

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which can do that (usually)

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for example this

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with the plusses I can add other shit to it what ever I intend to use

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issue with some reagents is sth like

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thats the bait posts I was talking about

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so would have to check if thats a thing (probably not all that common for r3 mats, but it does happen)

wintry jackal
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Do you guys take thrash in arena builds for feral?

livid wasp
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I dont

wintry jackal
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Why?

livid wasp
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cause moonfire rake brutal slash/shred enough to proc bt

wintry jackal
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But it’s extra bleed damage

safe heart
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I take it

safe heart
wintry jackal
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Fair

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Why do you take it then?

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Easier BT?

safe heart
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Yeah plus it helps me not overwrite my snap shotted rakes

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Or mfs

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I can use use thrash

livid wasp
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you dont even play feral

wintry jackal
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lol

safe heart
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I've only played feral so far this xpac

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Got 100 something rounds of shuffle and like 80 games of 3s ? I think

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Idc if it's worse , it feel better for me

livid wasp
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snupy doesnt seem to play it but other ferals do

safe heart
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I don't copy snupys builds

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I either ask fuji or copy axtin

livid wasp
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idk if its better to have it or not I just stopped picking it since I started using moonfire again

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on dummy thrash is like 3% of dmg

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but gues its a fair point to use it to not re-use snapshotted rakes idk

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and easier overall

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to get bt procs

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but if I wanted to get it I would have to lose typhoon or ursine vigor

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both nice to have

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typhoon way too nice in rbgs sometimes

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and its an extra kick

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and can stop flag cap with it while dueled

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I think

untold spade
#

Are there any good Blitz guides out there tailored to Resto Druid? I want to learn how I should play in Blitz, what talents are good for bgs etc

quaint rapids
#

the constant posts on wowpvp about feral being broken is hilarious

safe heart
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Idc about typhoon rly
Vigor is nice

livid wasp
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ferals good

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but my cba level of playing is the same as always

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sigh

stray sigil
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tj doesnt play thrash

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and iirc axtin does

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its purely preference

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doesnt matter either way does 0 dmg

safe heart
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Feels better to me being able to have a throw away filler for bt

edgy shale
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tj lost

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cuzh e didn't play thrahs

hasty raven
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thrash=100% win confirmed

clear pulsar
safe heart
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I've never lost while playing thrash

untold spade
wintry jackal
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Thrash feels better to me too

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How much damage is shred doing?

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Also authority of radiant power over mastery enchant now?

amber rose
#

Hey folks, has resto healing changed significantly this expansion?

One of my friends is not healing as much as she used to in rbgs and she is wondering what could be going wrong.

clear pulsar
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So they arent very good rn

tiny oar
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good to know ty face

wintry jackal
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Ty face

random patrol
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@tiny oar he's only human

tiny oar
viscid remnant
tiny oar
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luh calm fit

random patrol
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Lake will be streaming guardian shuffle and guardian 2s this week

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"runs hibernate into ferals" not really good but funny

tiny oar
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its real mind games shit pisses them off and gets in their head

polar nymph
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They're damned if they shift and damned if they don't

random patrol
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pretty much

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I just need a fucking frost mage

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then I can troll with aoe build

polar nymph
livid wasp
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is there even a point ever attacking spriest

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its so tanky and they have dispersion every time

haughty nova
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Nope let it free cast it will be fine

wintry jackal
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POV you’re feral in a solo to a frost dk pres evoker and frost mage

livid wasp
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I mean can always just cc the pri

livid wasp
tropic schooner
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but theres also rdruid

shy snow
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and rogues and shamans

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disc

tropic schooner
#

shadows

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hunters

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moonkins

shy snow
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female pandas

livid wasp
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none of those are immune to all cc and unkickable half the game

tropic schooner
#

oh

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feral

viscid remnant
#

wdym

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feral is so awful

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unplayable

tropic schooner
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immune to like half the CC in game and cant be kicked to reduce dmg

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always broken

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smh

livid wasp
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I dont think poly/hex is half the cc in the game I think theres more than 4

wintry jackal
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Bro people complaining about feral pains me

tropic schooner
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its likely close

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2 sprints 0 cd defensive

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opop

viscid remnant
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Feral ffffff----------

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Literally unplayable

tropic schooner
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basically more mobile DH which cant be sheeped and has spamable CC

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godclass since tbc

shy snow
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at least before feral was hard to play

tropic schooner
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nah just press button free

safe heart
shy snow
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I think it had a lot of nuances before, now looks really dumbed down to me, but this is what I got from a friend playing feral as a main, I couldn't tell myself

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tbh every class has been dumbed down since legion I think?

viscid remnant
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true

safe heart
strange hawk
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What are we thinking, maintenance goes over by 1-5 hours?

golden zinc
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8

strange hawk
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Well it’s up so we are both wrong

viscid remnant
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ahh the perks of not being america

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n

static steeple
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why the hell is reforestation FOUR swiftmends in 11.0.5?

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guess they expect everyone who takes this to also take renewing surge

clear bloom
viscid remnant
#

youre betatesting

clear bloom
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No we are just first class citizens.

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Of Azeroth.

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Unless we are beta testing a 5% damage increase 90% of the time 💀

viscid remnant
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iremember in DF when they added the tokens that upgrade bloody gear they didnt make them soulbound so people sold it for gold and the people that bought them never got refunded but got items taken

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allegedly

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maybe i remember wrong

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also theres a bug that warlock was 1shotting that only survived being on america i think

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maybe im wrong on that1

rapid wagon
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hi guys do we go 4pc for pvp resto?

clear bloom
viscid remnant
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also americans regularly get their maintence extended to hours that people actually play and not 5-6am

clear bloom
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Maintenance is done at 9 am for me.

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Usually

viscid remnant
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what hour was it done last week

clear bloom
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I dunno I don't pay attention to blizzard uptimes.

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Diablo 4 was like 5 hours late yesterday.

clear bloom
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You don't even know what bugs. Had to suffix everything with "maybe I am wrong."

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Enjoy sloppy seconds patchm

viscid remnant
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i wouldnt know bugs on a server i dont play cuh

clear bloom
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Dang that's crazy.

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We betatesting and you don't even pay attention to the known bugs 😭

viscid remnant
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dont care about stuff that doesnt effect me

clear bloom
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Affect

clear bloom
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American public education op.

viscid remnant
#

אתה יכול לקרוא את זה ?

surreal heron
#

לא יכול

lime light
#

polacs

surreal heron
tiny oar
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:3

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hi thyme

tropic schooner
lime light
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haha idk

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it sounds weird

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with C

cinder prism
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Is anyone running 4 piece for tier as boomy and finding it worth it?

velvet quest
#

Define worth? It doesn’t cost you anything it’s free

cinder prism
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instead of getting gear with vers/haste

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is the 4 piece worth that

velvet quest
#

Kinda

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4 piece is prob <1% dps gain and some games might be much less

cinder prism
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hmm

velvet quest
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Swapping pieces out for “bad stat” pieces is also probably <1%

clear pulsar
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Idk I think it's a nobrainer unless the bonus does literally nothing

velvet quest
#

So I wouldn’t worry too much about it either way

clear pulsar
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The 2ndary stat issue is 1 piece with 1/3 of its budget on crit

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That's soooo minimal

cinder prism
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Makes sense, ty to you both

velvet quest
#

Yeah pvpers have you thinking that crit is worth like 10x less than vers and haste but that’s not true

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You can set up a pvp sim to get a rough idea of how good each stat is for you if you really cared but I wouldn’t when it comes to gaining or losing 0.1% throughput in pvp

cinder prism
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I was thinking I might have been missing something since a lot of the top boomkin players arent running the 4p, had me questioning it

clear pulsar
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Fwiw

cinder prism
#

Also true

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valid point

late wraith
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Some still are not going to run it but what face and mayo both said is true

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It’s not a super impactful set bonus but we lose basically nothing to run it so 🤷🏻‍♀️

rancid laurel
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I've been getting my shit pushed in in the 1600s, both of my other chars were 1700 day 1. So obviously I'm trash at feral but can't figure out what I'm doing wrong so I figure it's a general stragety approach I'm doing incorrectly.

Typically I bleed everyone up, and clone healer, maim off dps then go for kill every 30 seconds with TF and AS and frenzy then incarn goes every 4th. I run circle of life and death which makes me feel like I have to work to keep bleeds up(is this a poor choice?)

I'm like 80 games played at sub 1600 and losing my mind. Send help.

static steeple
mighty raft
#

The latest patch notes said that restoration druid mana regen in PVP was now reduced by 40% (was 50%). Upon testing though there appears to be a SERIOUS bug. Out of PVP combat, my mana regen is 100k. In PVP combat my mana reg is 35k. That means mana reg is reduced by 65% in PVP, NOT 40% as the patch notes stated it should be.

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Has anyone noticed this issue?

static steeple
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Uh oh

livid wasp
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I would try to help but I went 3-3 in a 1.4k mmr shuffle today

lime light
#

very cool

lime light
#

lost the sanity tho

tropic schooner
lime light
#

haha

clear pulsar
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Need to check with other specs if that matches with their spec-specific mana regen nerfs

split kite
#

I was trying to copy Tonycatmeow and Axtin on the Murloc site. Does anyone know if the Algari crafted items will be permanent throughout the season, or will they be upgraded with Forged Gladiator Conquest-bought epic gear? I'm unsure if the Algari crafted pieces are permanent.

tropic schooner
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dont all items keep the same name?

mighty raft
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Even if they were halved to begin with, that would bring rdruid from 100k to 50k and then 40% reduced from there would be 30k, not 35k

safe heart
#

I got ketchup on my shirt

split kite
#

hey me to i was eating french fries were brothers

tiny oar
#

nice

clear pulsar
#

They're equivalents of the trophies of conquest from DF

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You buy a reagent with conquest to craft it instead of buying the item directly

viscid remnant
#

EL CATRAZ

split kite
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kk ty face2face i will now spend gold on those pieces was just making sure

velvet quest
#

Don’t use his full name just call him 2face. Cause he’s a rat. Never gonna forget how he betrayed me in plunderstorm

clear pulsar
#

Plunderstorm my beloved

livid wasp
#

oh yeah that existed

lime light
#

i made him

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EP made everyone in here

stark hamlet
#

is 2 piece worth it?

wary stirrup
#

poland

cerulean token
#

Is it worth losing mastery on gloves to gain haste and make it a set piece? for feral

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hmmm

safe heart
#

I use 2 set rn

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(Playing druid)

stark hamlet
#

you loose alot of versa tho

safe heart
#

It eez
What it eez

#

I mean basically the tier bonus is whatever at best
The 4set is kinda neat I guess

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I'm playing 2 set cuz idc
But I'd say 2 set not worth
4 set probably somewhat dece

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So go 0 or 4 imo

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Bt + tier bonus on your finishers sounds nice

bronze cobalt
#

Any big changes with balance druids on the rework next patch?

random patrol
#

Idk prob some cute short incarn build

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Im going to miss my 32 second incarn aoe though

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otherwise not really

gloomy nova
#

@clear pulsar i love u

clear pulsar
#

I'm glad we finally found some common ground

viscid remnant
#

did you guys figure out this mana thing

safe heart
#

Yeah just use mana tide totem

gloomy nova
#

So just reached 2k in 3s. Feels like u should get a mount for that as rdruid

viscid remnant
#

whats ur char name ?

safe heart
#

To this day we still don't know

viscid remnant
#

unforch

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wanted to see his gear

strange hawk
#

Really noticed the tranq buff today

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Mana was nice at least

lilac mist
#

Could any gamers write out a brief flow chart for the Feral vs Warrior 1v1?

gloomy nova
safe heart
#

He said to check ur gear

livid wasp
#

I get to 2.6k in blitz and 2 losses in a row

#

can never climb

#

2.6k mmr*

tropic schooner
#

yea 2.6k is starting mmr

livid wasp
#

so fucking stupid

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such shit teams

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cant win

#

why is the game so unfair

tropic schooner
#

they hate you

#

to much complaining

livid wasp
#

why did they have to add this fucking gamemode

#

why cant they just remove it

tropic schooner
#

I feel like ive told you before it came out

#

that youd tilt more at this

livid wasp
#

fucking 3 losses in a row

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dropping mmr

#

can I get a decent group please

tropic schooner
#

3 is nothign

#

youll get 10+ losing streaks

livid wasp
#

they need to change it

tropic schooner
#

lol

#
patchnotes: characters named Zechey cant lose
livid wasp
#

nah

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like if you lose then you get more dmg next bg or something

tropic schooner
#

rofl

livid wasp
#

or faster points

tropic schooner
#

who needs skill based mmr anyway

livid wasp
#

I cant wait to lose 4 in a row

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pop already

#

pop

#

do it

#

queues should at least be faster

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for losers

tropic schooner
#

if anything only the opposite would make sense

livid wasp
#

no

tropic schooner
#

why would it make sense to send tilted players faster back nito the game?

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like I dont think queues should be made longer for people who lost either, but at least I could see a reason

livid wasp
#

I want a chance to win faster

tropic schooner
#

why not people who actually win?

livid wasp
#

they already got their reward by winning

#

fast queue is like a 2nd place prize

tropic schooner
#

but they can win again

#

you cant

livid wasp
#

im gonna cheat a bit im gonna put stream on I always win during it

safe heart
#

I can't imagine queuing blitz bro like I can't even take up for u here

livid wasp
#

I have to get 2.4k

#

in this shit

safe heart
#

Why

random patrol
#

are you duel qing with a healer?

livid wasp
#

no

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I dont know any prevokers or mws

#

won it with stream

#

stream helps

safe heart
#

What's the reward for 2.4

livid wasp
#

well ill get high warlord

#

and 2.4k is 2.4k

safe heart
#

Is the title perma

livid wasp
#

think so

safe heart
#

Worth

tiny oar
#

deranged behaviour

livid wasp
#

im the only one quing this shit

#

on this discord

safe heart
#

Bro I fucking hate casuals at the gym

polar nymph
livid wasp
#

2-3

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could be worse

tropic schooner
livid wasp
#

oh right guess fuji does it on his dk

clear pulsar
#

Literally undefeated

livid wasp
#

I couldnt have that

#

think my first games ever I went 0-6 or something

#

worst time of my life

#

its kinda funny tho

#

1.6k arena xp people getting 2.4k rewards via blitz

#

rip arena participation

strange hawk
safe heart
#

There was a group of newbs leaving their phones and wallets on the equipment while they walk 1mph on the treadmill

#

And talk on the phone

vestal citrus
#

fuck em off bro

#

just move em hey

#

broccoli hair fucks

strange hawk
#

Lift heavy, they will recognize greatness and smarten up

tiny oar
random patrol
#

@tiny oar new boomy will stack crit

#

yw

tiny oar
static steeple
#

ok, druid healing feels a little better when you use a weakaura to track dream surge stacks]

tiny oar
#

this sentence is so cooked I can't

random patrol
#

am I wrong in not running foe as kotg

#

no it's the children that are wrong

#

or lake

#

prob lake's fault

vestal citrus
random patrol
#

Im just running all the rng shit atm

#

go go 12 surges

#

tried sundered firm it sucks(maybe good if ec Idk)

#

still running and twaking talents every game pretty much

#

nothing serious though for now cause solo is dead and I haven't gotten around to doing 3s

#

thankfully blitz is just all the starfalls

#

the thing is foe prob does more dam then the full moon random plus goldrin combined

#

at least in my testing, it just feels so bad to press cause you already have to use 2 diff cursor spells(thankfully I got the macros)

#

tldr, voodoo runs talent anyway

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@vestal citrus yep furry

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I mean on target dummy but still

tiny oar
random patrol
#

@tiny oar you go bear

tiny oar
random patrol
#

rawwr well I mean it does between 9 and 12 percent of dam in burst and the random talents do between 4 and 6 percent and mind you they do more damage on the dummy then actual pvp combat

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still hate pressing it though

rustic heath
#

Played some feral convoke in 2s yesterday with a rogue, really fun when the stars align! Do ppl still take the moonfire talent when going convoke? And swarm? Feeling like im Short of some points 😂

harsh ore
#

so

#

solo shuffle now is just

#

1 dps going 6/0

viscid remnant
#

yea if u gitgud its not

tiny oar
#

real

#

be the 6-0 heals instead

random patrol
#

go 6-0 as a heal and get 0 rating and loose mmr

tiny oar
#

real

safe heart
#

Ff + swarm is always good tho so it's kinda up to you I guess

rustic heath
#

Yeah, hmm gotta look over my tree today and see what i can swap around, mf feels good to have for sure, yeah i use the 1m cd on convoke

safe heart
#

Probably just try to optimize for as much Bite damage as possible

tropic schooner
#

@late wraith reminder that I gotta buy way more tinderboxes/nullstones next week

viscid remnant
#

Nosestones

tropic schooner
late wraith
#

I haven’t been looking tbh I’ve been trying to figure out what to do with my shit pve gear

tropic schooner
#

thats where my null stones are going

wanton ridge
#

are you even making a profit off these? I crafted 200 last week, with full multicraft I made like 100k lol

#

barely worth the time

tropic schooner
tropic schooner
#

is insane

#

thats like 1m g/h

#

so with these prices its about 700g/craft

#

but in reality its more

#

thats marbled stone (+5% AH cut)

#

so like individual marbled stone are like rough guess 40g cheaper

#

so the profit is ~1.5k

#

for settings (marbled stones sell way slower) - at least on wendesdays

late wraith
#

I sort of wonder if those settings are going to go up because a lot of aotc raiders are hitting the peak of what you can upgrade without doing +9 keys. Having this discussion with my guild rn lol

#

And queen is a big jump from council so people need to find other ways to upgrade gear

tropic schooner
#

doubt it

wanton ridge
#

Oh I wasn't actually fully multicraft

#

did recraft my jc tool to resourcefulness to get nullstones lol. But I'm gonna make a second one

late wraith
#

Or not go up but like stay consistent

wanton ridge
#

might go down slowly eventually because you run out of things to socket, atm I feel a lot of ppl are crafting their 636 neck/rings, I've been making lots doing those lol

#

each of those is 2x sockets

tropic schooner
#

the relevant part are the nullstones dunno how much they drop but think like 2-3k ea is kinda fair

wanton ridge
#

Yeah

tropic schooner
#

actually pebbles could go down again

wanton ridge
#

marble stones are interesting, you make a profit crafting those

tropic schooner
#

they are a bit absurd in price

wanton ridge
#

im maxxed in shaping so maybe that explains?

tropic schooner