yeah true link your seramate
#pvp
late wraith
robust vigil
Censored again
clear pulsar
Everybody is gonna be censored soon if you dont stop this tomfoolery
What in the name of braindamage is happening bro
robust vigil
grand mesa
Real
gloomy nova
I mean @viscid remnant ur just constantly making statements as if they are facts. And this time theres a perfect example of it. You have no clue:
david — Idag 00:58
ive seen atleast a couple r1/awc players prefering rdru over monk atm (lontar, pojke)
So Lontar made a tier list rating mw higher than druid. MP is a hardcore druid and litterally loses his hair playing his druid.
safe heart
Puzzle I need another 70 boost
sudden perch
How hpriest can possibly be worse than a pres
viscid remnant
pojke plays every healer except evoker on stream
viscid remnant
and he played monk the least
viscid remnant
i havent seen lontar on monk in a long time
i havent seen any monks in high rated 3s streams
gloomy nova
You havent seen your heart but u know u have one
clear pulsar
How hpriest can possibly be worse than a pres
I said "also"
viscid remnant
the only argument you could make about monk being better is blitz
sudden perch
Bruh, why ya arguing that mw is not trash, it’s dog water
robust vigil
gloomy nova
Im not the only one making the statement, its not about what you and me think.
whatever
robust vigil
This is a couple weeks old
sudden perch
I rather be pissed in my mouth by a pres than play MW
viscid remnant
this guy got 06 by a mw and hes yapping
gloomy nova
its like discussing with a 6 yo
safe heart
Hw tf is rsham that low
sudden perch
I rather be pissed in my mouth by a pres than play MW
Ill take this back and downgrade it to being pissed in my mouth by HPriest if MW and RDruids get buffed tho
safe heart
Rsham is clucking GOATED
late wraith
This is a couple weeks old
you can check the up to date one with drustvar
in case you want to see that stuff
robust vigil
you can check the up to date one with drustvar
Bless you
late wraith
and he's eu so you can look at the eu one
sudden perch
Hw tf is rsham that low
One word: mana
sudden perch
damn im sure every rsham aint know about that ability 😉
gloomy nova
This is NA 1800+
viscid remnant
livid wasp
why is feral so shit
sudden perch
There has to be a way to buff MW while just not making blitz a absolute fucking joke to play against MWs
gloomy nova
who tf cares about blitz lol
viscid remnant
i think blizzard is too lazy to code different auras for blitz/arena
sudden perch
who tf cares about blitz lol
Wait wut
robust vigil
who tf cares about blitz lol
Most people
safe heart
why is feral so shit
Didn't you see the guy earlier who said his buddy picked up feral and then won 19 games straight 5 minutes later
livid wasp
you believe everything people say?
safe heart
Holy shit is that real
sudden perch
Its so funny to see people complain about ferals after what we see affs and spriests doing omegalul
In AWC
safe heart
Feral is the highest represented melee rn ?
livid wasp
try facing a demo lock and frost mage in a skirm
viscid remnant
feral yea
livid wasp
good luck killing shit
robust vigil
Dude feral is fucking giga jacked rn
viscid remnant
feral is fotm
clear bloom
you believe everything people say?
safe heart
I fucking hate this shit
viscid remnant
sudden perch
Can we all fucking agree on this druid server that rdruids need to be buffed?
safe heart
No
gloomy nova
Its so funny to see people complain about ferals after what we see affs and spri...
Well, its also kinda wrong to draw too much conclusions from AWC. Some of those players are so fucking good that what they can do doesnt apply to 99% of players.
safe heart
Nerf rdruid and nerf feral
sudden perch
Nerf rdruid and nerf feral
Please where are the mods
safe heart
The mods are in my pocket
livid wasp
and I got shit defensives
safe heart
Im.honestly suprised feral is that high up
Even when feral is good ppl normally don't play it
gloomy nova
Im.honestly suprised feral is that high up
???
sudden perch
Feral is strong, but not OP
clear pulsar
Feral needs a nerfin'
robust vigil
As an assassination rogue, ferals bust their load on me if we are equal skill and gear. But I can kill dogshit ferals
gloomy nova
Feral is strong, but not OP
Another 150IQ comment LOL
clear bloom
Regrowth after every bite, survival instincts, barkskin, 2 frenzied regen. Idk still better than a ret by miles.
clear bloom
Hard class to play.
safe heart
Apparently not lol
clear bloom
Not really for fotm.
sudden perch
Another 150IQ comment LOL
Bruh, share some of your high IQ feral opinions with me too
gloomy nova
dude if feral was broken I would be winning every skirmish no problem
Someone pin this
livid wasp
im not wrong
clear bloom
Ok
robust vigil
dude if feral was broken I would be winning every skirmish no problem
No one thinks their own class is busted. In my rogue discord everyone complains about the state of rogues even though all three rogue specs were in the AWC and not a single other class had 3 specs represented.
robust vigil
But feral also had huge AWC representation
sudden perch
You compare a feral with the dumbass shit going on with devestation, aff, rogues, hunters
robust vigil
Its funny hearing people who main OP classes complain
clear pulsar
I hope the irony isnt lost on you
sudden perch
Ferals are just A+ tier compared those S
viscid remnant
Talking about balance is pointless
livid wasp
im not doing bad as feral
viscid remnant
Because theres nothing u can do and everyone has bias
livid wasp
im playing it to the best you can in skirms
sudden perch
@gloomy nova link your feral
gloomy nova
<@224585312641220608> link your feral
wtf
safe heart
Rdruid is food for feral
gloomy nova
are u ok?
safe heart
I kill them for free rn
gloomy nova
I have to play feral to know feral is S tier?
sudden perch
Oh then you are playing AGAINST feral i see
clear pulsar
Feral is def S tier, only feral players don't think so. Or if all you do is shuffle ig.
sudden perch
Feral is strong, just way stronger specs out there also
livid wasp
try winning skirm against 2 aids casters or 2 melees bursting you down
safe heart
I think feral is awesome rn but I hate when everyone plays it
clear pulsar
The only spec stronger is aff
robust vigil
Feral is strong, just way stronger specs out there also
Name 4
gloomy nova
Feral is S tier. The problem is feral has a much higher skillcap/ceiling compared to many other classes.
So
sudden perch
Rogue, disc, dev, aff
gloomy nova
Just because u get shitted on
sudden perch
I can keep going
gloomy nova
it doesnt change reality
livid wasp
wrong
robust vigil
Rogue, disc, dev, aff
MM and disc and possibly sub rogues deff not dev or aff
Id say rogue and ferals seem very similar ATM
sudden perch
I was gonna asy MM as 5th
safe heart
Can I atleaat have a consolation glad this season
sudden perch
But rogues are in every single high level arena you can find, and it’s disengeous to say it’s only high skilled people who can handle it, it just means the kit is great and S tier
robust vigil
So I think I saw about as many rogue teams in AWC as feral teams.
They both are dominating the Pro meta
safe heart
I will buff rdruid as long as we can nerf feral
gloomy nova
AWC is VEEEEEEEEERY different from ladder
sudden perch
I will concede and prob say it’s S tier, but really not as broken as you say it is
robust vigil
As far as us regular folk. Sub is hard to play on shuffle IMO cause you're dependent on people not breaking your CC
clear pulsar
As far as us regular folk. Sub is hard to play on shuffle IMO cause you're depen...
If you're at a rating where people dont know not to break CC, then you can solo win as sub off of just knowing how to burst and use smoke bomb + duel
gloomy nova
One example of how AWC differs from ladder. Theres like maybe 2 warlocks that can play AWC and be successful. ANyone else would get completley shitted on. However thats not the case in ladder
robust vigil
I don't play sub enough you're probably right
gloomy nova
so
sudden perch
AWC is VEEEEEEEEERY different from ladder
Bro, do you even care about stats? YOu dont care about AWS nor do you care about drustvar stats when it comes to MW either, you gonna nbelieve in rogue stats either?
AWC*
gloomy nova
Statistics might be hard for you
robust vigil
If you're at a rating where people dont know not to break CC, then you can solo ...
Do you think feral or sub is easier for the average Joe to pick up and succeed on in shuffle ?
gloomy nova
I get it
livid wasp
2 ret palas bursting my warrior down in a couple of seconds, how am I supposed to beat that as feral
gloomy nova
Like any statistics, you cant just look at the raw data
sudden perch
Rogues are currently #2, @4 on the ladder,
sudden perch
Do you think feral or sub is easier for the average Joe to pick up and succeed o...
Feral for sure
I just say it how it is
robust vigil
Rogue and feral both in good spots
clear pulsar
Do you think feral or sub is easier for the average Joe to pick up and succeed o...
IMO Sub when both are rly strong like right now. Having immunities goes rly hard there. For more proper organized play then idk it depends on what you're good at.
sudden perch
Yet we keep deviating from the real point that rdruids need buffs
sudden perch
Sub is not easier to play than feral, much higher skill cap, but feral is not easy either, pretty high up there with sub, but a good sub is infinitely more useful than a feral
safe heart
Sub has way better defensive tho
That's huge for a player who's just picking up a spec
When I was learning sp, it was insane how far I could get because disperse is op
sudden perch
Sub has way better defensive tho
Ding ding ding, thank you. My whole point is there are much more busted classes if utilized correctly than a feral
robust vigil
I don't play sub or feral. But I know Sub is generally considered tp be better with coordinated play and assassination is generally considered better fornthe average person to do well with in uncoordinated
gloomy nova
At least on checkpvp you can see either 1800+ or 2200+. Any moron dps can get 1800 in shuff (healer is abit different depending on class). And 2200 is VERY high rn. So basically you cant just look at that and draw conculsions. And regarding AWC it does say something about meta and current status of some specs. But you cant draw TOO many conclusions from AWC. Because like I said, warlocks is a prime example. Theres maybe 2 players who can play lock in AWC without getting completley shitted on, and thats not the case in ladder. And statistics usually have to be broken down. You have to take other things in consideration, what I said is one thing. Also participation is another, ie some specs arent played as much at all as others etc.
robust vigil
But both are rogue specs so rogue mains are blessed to have options
clear pulsar
At least on checkpvp you can see either 1800+ or 2200+. Any moron dps can get 1800 in shuff (healer is abit different depending on class). And 2200 is VERY high rn. So basically you cant just look at that and draw conculsions. And regarding AWC it does say something about meta and current status of some specs. But you cant draw TOO many conclusions from AWC. Because like I said, warlocks is a prime example. Theres maybe 2 players who can play lock in AWC without getting completley shitted on, and thats not the case in ladder. And statistics usually have to be broken down. You have to take other things in consideration, what I said is one thing. Also participation is another, ie some specs arent played as much at all as others etc.
late wraith
At least on checkpvp you can see either 1800+ or 2200+. Any moron dps can get 1800 in shuff (healer is abit different depending on class). And 2200 is VERY high rn. So basically you cant just look at that and draw conculsions. And regarding AWC it does say something about meta and current status of some specs. But you cant draw TOO many conclusions from AWC. Because like I said, warlocks is a prime example. Theres maybe 2 players who can play lock in AWC without getting completley shitted on, and thats not the case in ladder. And statistics usually have to be broken down. You have to take other things in consideration, what I said is one thing. Also participation is another, ie some specs arent played as much at all as others etc.
sudden perch
Im not even good, and i wont say im r1 anything, I’m just telling it how it is from my perspective and i appreciate anyone being objective with statistics and data. But idgaf who you are, evokers need to be deleted from the game
gloomy nova
Im not even good, and i wont say im r1 anything, I’m just telling it how it is f...
100% agree with your last statement
Ill sign the petition
clear pulsar
Im not even good, and i wont say im r1 anything, I’m just telling it how it is f...
Fwiw dev is for sure not better than feral at any bracket
robust vigil
People's perspective of what class is strong is heavily dependent on the class they main and what counters them
sudden perch
Fwiw dev is for sure not better than feral at any bracket
I will only agree from an objective point about that, not from a subjective point
robust vigil
So data is the best route for objectivity
sudden perch
Playing against a dev feels so fucking boring
Rather just let them piss in my mouth
clear pulsar
You reserve yourself the right to be delulu
gloomy nova
So data is the best route for objectivity
Yeah but if you dont know what quality/quantity means from a statistics PoV those stats will in most cases be misleading (generally speaking)
clear pulsar
I get it
I mean if homeboy wants to say mw is the devil who am I to stop you from hating dev
late wraith
Rather just let them piss in my mouth
u keep talking about getting your mouth pissed in
u good?
sudden perch
Nah I love MW wym
sudden perch
u keep talking about getting your mouth pissed in
Only from evokers, i aint mention anything else
clear pulsar
u keep talking about getting your mouth pissed in
gloomy nova
I think the most tilting part about dev is that its a 2 button class capable of doing insane consistent dmg aswell as burst, while having insane aura mastery uptime
sudden perch
I think the most tilting part about dev is that its a 2 button class capable of ...
No, it’s the fact that they’re able to cast while essentially moving the whole game with very little downtime
sudden perch
I was mostly disagreeing with the dmg, it’s whatever/fine
safe heart
No you said you wanted them to piss in your mouth
gloomy nova
Thats ok
late wraith
it's okay if you want that
gloomy nova
People like different things
clear pulsar
I dont think it's ok if you want that, ftr
safe heart
clear pulsar
I think it's disgusting
safe heart
📷
late wraith
just keep it in your heart you know?
clear pulsar
I need to make it clear it's fucking gross
late wraith
it's between you and god
gloomy nova
I need to make it clear it's fucking gross
Have u tried it?
safe heart
We are about to go on a wild ride in this chat bois
late wraith
tell him your mouth piss rating face
livid wasp
you drank their spit all of dragonflight surely their piss cant be that bad
safe heart
@tiny oar they are kink shaming make them stop
clear pulsar
I was multiglad at getting my mouth pissed in back in TBC
sudden perch
Bro dragon piss is not great, it’s just sometimes forced, i never said it’s a preference
They do whatever the fuck they want
late wraith
we're not JUDGING enji don't tell on us
gloomy nova
Anyways, is feral good rn?
sudden perch
Yes
gloomy nova
😄
viscid remnant
brainrot chat
gloomy nova
Its the internet
safe heart
Feral is not good rn
sudden perch
I always thought spriest was sleeper OP, everytime i go to priest wow forums, i see otherwise, same with rogues, just always so funny when i see them so represented
livid wasp
well if it was really op you shouldnt lose
sudden perch
Esp with how small their pop sizes are relatively
gloomy nova
well if it was really op you shouldnt lose
true
sudden perch
well if it was really op you shouldnt lose
False, i always lose playing fotm
gloomy nova
I always thought spriest was sleeper OP, everytime i go to priest wow forums, i ...
I mean rogues are just used to being gods in every aspect of the game (at least one of the specs).
Forever
safe heart
And moving while you cast void torrent scares me
sudden perch
I’m debating between whose worse, aff or spriest
clear pulsar
And moving while you cast void torrent scares me
Yeah I think people are too in love with that tho, Archon feels stronger when I get them in shuffle
gloomy nova
I’m debating between whose worse, aff or spriest
Is that even a question u need to think about?
sudden perch
Bro pondering these things is what brings joy in between queues
safe heart
Yeah I think people are too in love with that tho, Archon feels stronger when I ...
Face u wanna play feral sp
gloomy nova
Im a healer I dont have queuetimes. There are so many bots waiting to be healcarried
safe heart
Freest challenger ever
sudden perch
Im a healer I dont have queuetimes. There are so many bots waiting to be healcar...
Who you play
Dont say pres
safe heart
Im a healer I dont have queuetimes. There are so many bots waiting to be healcar...
I think healing is easier than dps ngl
clear pulsar
Freest challenger ever
I'm busy doing a bit of torturing prisoners
gloomy nova
Do you know what server this is?
gloomy nova
I think healing is easier than dps ngl
Please explain
safe heart
Face have you tried making a blaster druid
clear pulsar
Druid dont blast they just tickle
sudden perch
I'm busy doing a bit of torturing prisoners
Ah you’re a chad
safe heart
Is bg3 dnd rules
sudden perch
Its kinda sad tho, rdruids feel kinda clunky this xpac
clear pulsar
I'm gonna put 4 lvls into druid here soon tho
clear pulsar
Can you pick a domain ?
As cleric yes
There are 10 I think?! No fire domain
This guy is gonna be ranger / cleric of trickery / circle of spores druid
safe heart
You can't pick one as a Druid?
Usually you drop animal companion
Maybe that's pathfinder only
clear pulsar
Yeah looks like it's a pathfinder thing
sudden perch
KOTG is just objectively worse than wildstalker for rdruids right?
robust vigil
I think healing is easier than dps ngl
I'm going to have you teach me
clear pulsar
Druid has a subclass where you pick land types and those give you unique spells tho
But it's not air fire water, it's like desert, swamp, mountains
safe heart
Please explain
Healers play not to lose, dps have to play to win
As a dps you have to manage doing your go's setting it up, playing off the other dps, peeling everyone and ultimately trying to lock in the win con
Healers can assist but end of the day in most cases (I know rdruid is not good rn) as a healer as long as you don't eat excessive cc and just blast healing while your dps work , you'll win
PLUS
You have benefit of lfg being in your favor
sudden perch
On the other hand enji
Your mistakes are much less severe as a DPS than as a healer
I respect all healers
gloomy nova
Im not gonna get into a discussion about whats easier to play, healer or dps
robust vigil
Bro this shaman reached out to me and my friends wanting to do arena with us. So I sent him a Lontar build. So shows up and I ask him about chaining his hexes with my blinds. And he's like "I don't think I have hex" come to find out this MF doesn't have Hex, frost shock or earthbind LOL
sudden perch
You have benefit of lfg being in your favor
This is the true objective point
safe heart
I think about it like
robust vigil
Good Support/healers carry tbh. Alot of responsibility
clear pulsar
Healers play not to lose, dps have to play to win
As a dps you have to manage do...
I dont think this is fair. I think this just means the bar for entry for healing is higher because as dps you can be absolutely dogwater at performing your basic function and the game doesnt automatically end
Healing isnt easier, healers are just better at the game
gloomy nova
Thank you
clear pulsar
🤝
sudden perch
Personally, if you ask me, dps is way easier, your mistakes are more forgiving. When your mistakes are do or die, it’s too difficult (not that thats a bad thign)
But i play dps and heal (and tank pve) im a all rounder scrub
safe heart
Idk I'm better at dps but I found healing to be pretty chill in comparison
gloomy nova
Generally speaking, healing is alot harder than dps. Though its a flexible scale, because it also depends what spec u are playing to some extent
safe heart
I think another big thing tho
sudden perch
Healing is easier if you play disc/pres. you’re a masochist if you play MW/rdruid and think it’s easy.
And considering what server we’re in you’re a masochist
gloomy nova
are u serious
safe heart
A 2k healer will never take a 1600 dps but a 2k dps will take a 1600 healer and make it work
gloomy nova
Oh now ur talking about something else
safe heart
It's adjacent
clear pulsar
I think he's just taking the piss now
gloomy nova
That has to do with availability
safe heart
I was playing rsham and having ppl carry me even tho I aucked
sudden perch
I think he's just taking the piss now
Who
safe heart
Me
sudden perch
You got an aqcuired taste to it to?
safe heart
I found as long as I didn't make egregious errors , I could play well above my cr with the dps carrying
gloomy nova
Some people found the earth is flat
safe heart
Thats a lil unrelated
sudden perch
It’s a false POV. Playing with good players will always make your life easier, if your dps or healer, no matter what
safe heart
Earth flat = healers easy mode
safe heart
It’s a false POV. Playing with good players will always make your life easier, i...
Playing with a comparably better healer isn't gunna get you as far imo
gloomy nova
Your own experiences, your niche experience and take on a matter doesnt objectively and generally make it true
safe heart
Your own experiences, your niche experience and take on a matter doesnt objectiv...
This goes for you too bruv
gloomy nova
of course
viscid remnant
that you couldnt reasonably take into account
gloomy nova
No
Im not
Im adding to my own experience
Why do you think there are so few healers in the game?
safe heart
Cuz playing not to lose is annoying
sudden perch
Whatever @gloomy nova says i agree because he agreed with me about deleting evokers
safe heart
Not doing dps is boring
gloomy nova
Thats only one factor
gloomy nova
You dont think one factor is how easy it is to play?
sudden perch
I can respect enji’s opinion tho, you can wont be able to climb with shit dps as a healer, but i still think having good players on both is important
safe heart
I mean back in DF I did an entire healer arc because I found it easier lol
safe heart
I'm better at dps because most of my xp is playing dps but I did fine as mw and rsham
safe heart
I went from 0xp to 2100xp on rsham in like a month
gloomy nova
That its harder to play a warrior or BM or DH for instance
safe heart
I barely got there on my feral which is my best xp
safe heart
No I mean I'll give you that
sudden perch
Enji just has a stone heart, but i get too much palpitations from playing healer, yet i still play it
safe heart
The existence of zug melee is part of the reason I think healer is easier
gloomy nova
wtf
sudden perch
The existence of zug melee is part of the reason I think healer is easier
Ok you are drinking the piss
sudden perch
I tried to play devils advocate but that was too far lmao
safe heart
Okay so lookk
gloomy nova
Nah cba
safe heart
Fury warrior not harder to play than rsham but fury warrior existing makes playing rsham easier
sudden perch
Prob only class i WOULDNT want to heal against is prob aff locks
gloomy nova
DPS: Attack, pop defensives when needed. My healer keeps me alive.
Healer: Heal, avoid CC, avoid silence, follow your dps, range, use CDS
safe heart
@vestal citrus plz tell me you understand me here
If glyph doesn't agree with me I'll stop
viscid remnant
The floor for healer is higher but the ceiling for dps is higher
sudden perch
Aff locks will probe your anus more than any zug can and i agree, but a UHDK? You not scared of that?
safe heart
The floor for healer is higher but the ceiling for dps is higher
I like this
If ur terrible at healer , yes the game is over faster but if you're terrible at dps, it's just a slow burn till you lose
sudden perch
The floor for healer is higher but the ceiling for dps is higher
I like this
gloomy nova
I feel like someone owns me time
vestal citrus
<@140656141196722176> plz tell me you understand me here
whats thge argument
safe heart
But if you're a great healer, it's still a slow burn till you lose
safe heart
whats thge argument
Healing is easier than dps
vestal citrus
depends on the level of play
me playing with two r1 dps is easy
especially if melee players
bc i stand 45 yards and fling heals
safe heart
Let's split the difference
Say 2100 players
vestal citrus
I'd say healing harder at that level maybe, depends on how much pressure healer gets
again, if double melee
healer is not under pressure for shit usually
death ball in mid gg
sudden perch
A bad healer is so easy to tell and its like a blood in the water trigger for good dps, the flloor is very high
You WILL get probed
vestal citrus
i can win with a bad healer
gloomy nova
healer is not under pressure for shit usually
double melee into frostmage aff
safe heart
That's basically my point
vestal citrus
double melee into frostmage aff
u just go next bro
if u dont win in opener or 2nd go just afk
safe heart
Can win with bad healer
Can't win with bad dps
sudden perch
i can win with a bad healer
That’s not what i’m saying, i’m saying enemy dps will ram you in the butt when they can smell you be bad
vestal citrus
as dps i can peel healer
and create counter pressure
and play in a way to cover for a lot of healer failures
gloomy nova
Can win with bad healer
Can't win with bad dps
False. Ive carried many complete shitters in SS wdym
safe heart
Shuffle is whatever
vestal citrus
idk its much of a muchness either way
safe heart
What even constitutes a healer carry
sudden perch
It’s funny we’re talking about all of this as objectives when it’s really subjective
Everybody is right from their own perspective
gloomy nova
What even constitutes a healer carry
Managing to get a win when playing with a mage that doesnt have iceblock on his bars
or alter time
sudden perch
Can we get back to talking about ferals
late wraith
your thing that all the r1s are saying
safe heart
Maybe that mage had so much pressure or was kiting so well he didn't need to
Hard to say
sudden perch
Actually, not that i think about it more, i play Sham + druid as duo mains, i have much more trouble with RDPS than i do zugs
Im very confused and conflicted
safe heart
Thats why he died the 5 other games without using a single defensive
I mean I didn't watch the vod so youll have to cut me some slack in reviewing your games
gloomy nova
@sudden perch are u for real
sudden perch
So it depends on class/spec
Rsham is supposedly good against rdps so im prob just bad
gloomy nova
If there is one thing druids are capable of, its kiting
safe heart
This makes me wanna play rsham again
sudden perch
I do much better against rdps as a druid tho, i guess im built different
safe heart
Instead of stressing on feral
robust vigil
They have orange kitten travel form and you can't spell kitten without kite
gloomy nova
wtf am i reading
how can you even claim to be built better because u kite better as druid compared to sham
sudden perch
I got a wolf as a rsham too, but i have root, cap, burrow, static
So easy to kite melee
robust vigil
This makes me wanna play rsham again
I mained ele shammus back in WOTLK and did some resto in 2s for lulz. Shaman just seems so bloat rn
gloomy nova
Any dps that has more than 50 IQ counters most of that
clear pulsar
I got a wolf as a rsham too, but i have root, cap, burrow, static
Vortex, bash, typhoon, wild charge?
sudden perch
I feel like vortex is slightly overrated
gloomy nova
Here we go again
clear pulsar
I feel like vortex is slightly overrated
This is something you gotta work out with a therapist
safe heart
I still play mass root tho
clear pulsar
Like the mouth pissing thing
sudden perch
I gotta get better at rdruid tho thats fosure, im just a way better rsham than i am rdruid
clear pulsar
They might be connected
gloomy nova
Are we actually having a discussion trying to convince someone druid kites better than sham?
safe heart
I think mw kites better than rdruid
sudden perch
Like the mouth pissing thing
Why you always bringing the past up?
safe heart
Alright I'll check back in later
robust vigil
And resto becoming a hard cast spec actually makes it closer to rsham
viscid remnant
Alright I'll check back in later
robust vigil
Used to be your just travel form and Instant cast HoTs for days
sudden perch
I played rdruid in WOTLK and for me the exp was just 1000000% easier kiting
robust vigil
I played rdruid in WOTLK and for me the exp was just 1000000% easier kiting
Fax
People also had less CC and less utility and less mobility
gloomy nova
I think Ive done my share of social work for today. Im not happy with the result overall but hey, thats life. Over and out
robust vigil
There's a utility and mobility creep in the game
safe heart
It's crazy how much better tauren is for druid than night elf
I never realized
safe heart
Because t2 druid set looks alot better on them and also pig sticker
safe heart
Yo face I am panakin Skywalker rn , tell me plz
clear pulsar
From mop heirloom, it was freeeee on mop remix
clear pulsar
FROM MOP HEIRLOOM, IT WAS FREEEEE ON MOP REMIX
safe heart
HIW DO I GO BACK
robust vigil
What's best race for priest anyone know
sudden perch
People also had less CC and less utility and less mobility
Powershifting def helped
short charm
Undead or panda
short charm
That’s true
robust vigil
Void Elf seems really strong
viscid remnant
Absurd defiance
robust vigil
gnome is BiS for any class that can be a gnome but I don't think gnomea can be priests can they
viscid remnant
Thats wrong
sudden perch
Are we trolling? I cant tell
robust vigil
Cause small. And cute and take out knee caps
robust vigil
Are we trolling? I cant tell
Idk have you seen a gnome fury warrior or gnome warlock
viscid remnant
I have no knees irl
safe heart
What's best race for priest anyone know
Night borne
robust vigil
Fucking S tier
sudden perch
Idk have you seen a gnome fury warrior or gnome warlock
They definitely OP cause i can barely see/keep track
robust vigil
That's part of the strat
safe heart
Night borne has aoe slow and also aoe mailbox
robust vigil
Also a tiny little guy shooting giant chaos bolts or running around with two giant 2 handers
He's just a little guy and it's his first day
AND HEA DOING SO GOOD
sudden perch
I want powershifting back for druids so bad 😦
robust vigil
What's power shifting (I'm a dummy)
sudden perch
What we had back in wotlk, no global shifting
sudden perch
Supposedly OP
robust vigil
Supposedly lies
sudden perch
Fax
robust vigil
Void elf is the best race for every caster
Ty for this answer
late wraith
I want powershifting back for druids so bad 😦
this does exist with fluid form?
clear bloom
gnome is BiS for any class that can be a gnome but I don't think gnomea can be p...
Night elf mage.
robust vigil
I'll give you mage as long as I can keep Gnome Fury warrior, Gnome Warlock, gnome DK and gnome rogue
safe heart
Fluid form sucks
robust vigil
I think you're missing my point lmao
You're unironically addressing an ironic claim
I'm saying gnome is S tier cause of aesthetics and cause of the juxposition of a fury warrior wielding two huge weapons on a tiny frame
He's smol, and cute, and will take out yo knee caps
clear bloom
My bad. Didn't know we were talking about rp.
robust vigil
case and point: Roofus, A distinguished gentleman
robust vigil
My bad. Didn't know we were talking about rp.
Im not a role player im a PvPer, gnomes are just fucking cool
robust vigil
youre being weirdly serious about a silly conversation. Im not enjoying this. im going to go play the game
i would thumbs down your comments if I could
but Ill leave that up to the mods
clear bloom
Huh
What just happened
In the pvp community when you pick a race bc you like it it's just called rp. I don't understand how you can get a negative connotation from that when I said I did it myself.
Soft boy af.
edgy shale
youre being weirdly serious about a silly conversation. Im not enjoying this. im going to go play the game
stray sigil
clear bloom
But I'm making fun of rp 
stray sigil
late wraith
lake you've missed so much yap
tiny oar
lake you've missed so much yap
just caught up kinda nuts lol
velvet quest
i cant believe u read all that and still decided that its a good morning
tiny oar
i cant believe u read all that and still decided that its a good morning
LOL, every day is a good day when i wake up mayo 
wintry jackal
yo why are people switching from bloodtalons to lions strength all of a sudden at top levels?
safe heart
that sounds fake
wintry jackal
check murlok io
safe heart
probably testing it out or seomthing
no one runs lion strength, even in pve they dont
edgy shale
even in pve
stray sigil
what's going on with the other 8?
lazy
but even then it procs by itself with not much thinking
sudden perch
Lion strength kinda seems troll ngl
tiny oar
yea it sure is
tiny oar
<@237412116024393728> when guardian shuffle again
this weekend mayb
wary stirrup
absurd defiance
tardy hare
Bro gnomes are poggers
tiny oar
gnome warriors are so cute I love them
neon brook
lazy
I have a "versus zoo spam bite" talent page I haven't got to test yet (mostly play blitz) with lion's strength, probs testing the same thing or maybe it's actually good :d, if you rip like 20 things with pw you don't really have time to prep bloodtalons to bitebitebitebite
used to be BT but the free bite procced so much in the 1 blitz I tested it that I changed it to LS, haven't actually run it again yet tho (only temple of kotmogu stuff)
livid wasp
why do I get partners in skirm 3s where they do 1/6 of my damage
so fucking useless
so tired of these games where I lose cause I get some clown on my team
and we lose cause mage still has 2 iceblocks for some reason
such a broken defensive
and now I get a priest who dies in 1 opener
fucking IDIOTS
such an unfair game
now I get an afking clown healer in my game
its rigged against me I swear
viscid remnant
D4bad
vocal geyser
As balance bg blitz starfall spammer do you play elune or grove sub-spec ?
livid wasp
not a skirm
several skirms
I am ready to burst pop inca after clone on healer and this rogue pops duel and does idk 200k damage or something during it
then after he dies
how am I supposed to not tilt
every 3s game a clown fiesta with someone dying insta
but guess feral is really op
viscid remnant
imagine booming because of a skirm
livid wasp
maybe its easier when I get 2 new pieces crafted, 12% more mastery
spent all my damn money
and dont even have gems yet
or enchants
tropic schooner
imagine booming because of a skirm
It's zechey
viscid remnant
zechey u need to lock in
livid wasp
idk
wish I could play without tilt
wish there was some drug that removed tilt permanently
viscid remnant
U just need to lock in
shy snow
tropic schooner
its anyone who would be in this shit situation
no its basically only you
livid wasp
wrong
tiny oar
ill be real w u if ur raging over a skirm sort out ur existence ty
tiny oar
why is raging over it any different
its completely non serious and non competitive
livid wasp
but you still get the feeling of losing
tiny oar
okie but u choose how to react to that
livid wasp
nobody likes losing
clear pulsar
The tilting and raging is absurdly cringe but if you're gonna tilt and rage cuz you lost, I respect the consistency
livid wasp
youre lucky you dont have to deal with this
stray sigil
I have a "versus zoo spam bite" talent page I haven't got to test yet (mostly pl...
so ur aoe pad page
has the pad doing 10% less dmg and bites too
safe heart
I only tilt in shuffle its 100% confirmed
tropic schooner
why is raging over it any different
because there are 0 stakes
losing is completly irrelevant
safe heart
Everytime I play 3s I'm able to be critical and reflective
But in shuffle fuck all of that
livid wasp
its not irrelevant losing just feels like shit
tropic schooner
absolutely not
if I lose in like mario party
among us or what ever other party game
I absolutely dont give a fuck
you arent playing everything to win
livid wasp
wow is different
tropic schooner
you make it different
for most people it isnt (for non competetive things)
id say especially if they are as short term as skirmishes
I can understand people raging more when doing random hc dungeons
tardy hare
I play mario party to win
atleast all the mini games
game is rigged and give all the noobs stars at the end anyway
neon brook
so ur aoe pad page
na the idea was you PW the zoo from their BM and unholy DKs and don't have the gcds inbetween bites to proc bloodtalons, 6 bites in 8 gcds better than 3 etc, apex is up so often and I have stuff to do like cycloning, bashing etc that doesn't proc BT
not saying it's better over BT but that 1 bg it definitely would've been xd
stray sigil
@clear pulsar whats the pve thing about bt
like if its up 70% of the time its better than lions
something like that
neon brook
I haven't actually ever run lion's strength tho yeah, but that 1 experience made me consider it
bite-bite-bite-feral frenzy-bite sounds stronger than bite-bite-rake-brutal slash-moonfire-bite, not accounting for enemy/my cc between that etcetc
livid wasp
feral is worse than df
lime light
think he should quit the spec
i did sometime ago
and EP is more heathly
the spec is not fun anymore, just a normal casual spam damgur andy spec
playing something else, just for a change
stray sigil
feral is worse than df
hidden sphinx
What's this expansions dragon spit to drink in arenas?
livid wasp
feral just doesnt feel any different than df
its not broken
if it was broken I would feel it
no real burst anymore since the loss of clone ff
just feels shit
no dmg between ffs
if anything it was stronger at the end of df
now we dont have much dmg anymore
livid wasp
but people think feral is op so guess it stays shit
livid wasp
why does it feel worse than ever then
lime light
rake crits for 350-400k
livid wasp
nah
livid wasp
still need clones to do any real dmg
lime light
TBH ff feels likda wacky XD
livid wasp
im not able to push nearly as much as before
stray sigil
push what
livid wasp
they just need to give us insta clones or something
viscid remnant
nobody can push rating
u literally need to be awc champ to have glad
and shuffle is capped on 2.3 or someshit
i wouldnt care about rate rn
lime light
zechey log kitten cleave
livid wasp
I can dot all 3 nothing is still dying
stray sigil
only thing thats inflated is bgb but u need to go thru 25 placement games
livid wasp
2v2 isnt that deflated tho
livid wasp
rank 1000 is like 1800 im freaking 1600
shy snow
need to lock in to do damage
livid wasp
I am 22-11 with 1.6k
viscid remnant
ye 1 guy
livid wasp
feral just feels like shit in 2s
tardy hare
rank 1000 is like 1800 im freaking 1600
you forget that like ranks 200-1000 are all betweeen 1800-1950 ish
lime light
what u playin sir @tardy hare
stray sigil
theres no way u cant get 1800 in 2s zechey
tardy hare
dk mostly atm
stray sigil
why we complaining wbout 2s
livid wasp
something like warrior is way more broken than feral
stray sigil
something like warrior is way more broken than feral
@lime light @viscid remnant
speak to ur mans
livid wasp
or dk
stray sigil
hes losing it
lime light
hehe
livid wasp
just sit on my healer and kill him
stray sigil
and u just let him sit on di because
u have instant roots clone stuns
vortex if u want
livid wasp
of course I try to peel but they have counters to everything
viscid remnant
im kind of bored arguing about balance
every wow player has brainrot
legit u cant do anything
lime light
tbh the only thing that feral is bad
in this ixpac
is offhealing
or maybe iam wrong
and they can heal for milions with str of the wild?
stray sigil
its not sl strong
viscid remnant
yea but who cares about offheal when u do the dmg of afflilock
livid wasp
and disc feels like shit, they dont heal at all anymore
livid wasp
rather play with something else
stray sigil
incarn is holocaust
shy snow
https://drustvar.com/pvp/representation?bracket=all®ion=all&rating=2100&option=role feral weak this patch
livid wasp
yes, I play with a disc and im 10% hp all the time cause no heals
im talking about 2s
even if hes free
viscid remnant
idk
stray sigil
did u play with david priest by chance
viscid remnant
zecheyt presses wall on 10%
stray sigil
viscid remnant
and the disc cant heal
livid wasp
dunno this one guy was 1.9k cr
viscid remnant
so u lose
lime light
i mean if u face EP's forry woyer
viscid remnant
this guy plays like an animal
lime light
even disc dies
livid wasp
well I have to wall at 10% cause up to that point I expect to get heals
better to press it than die
livid wasp
why when healer isnt in cc and theyre not bursting
lime light
q?
stray sigil
sure
lime light
isnt skin like
viscid remnant
not based on how much hp u have
lime light
30 or 40%
viscid remnant
are u stupid
livid wasp
but if my healer has cds for me then its wasted
livid wasp
so I should just wall while I have ps on me ok
viscid remnant
not when u are high
stray sigil
based on enemy presses
i want to disagree but lets keep it simple for zechey ye
livid wasp
wall is damn useless anyway
livid wasp
3min cd 5 sec duration woohoo
lime light
not on EP
livid wasp
warrior is the most broken shit to face in 2s in addition to affli
stray sigil
30% dr every minute too
clear pulsar
not based on how much hp u have
Now you say that but when I rotate disperse I'm wrong
I hate david
stray sigil
essentially arms parry lol
usable in stun
feral not squishy anymore
i dont think
livid wasp
just sits on my healer and I have tough time double dotting
stray sigil
if u play like a human
stray sigil
Now you say that but when I rotate disperse I'm wrong
u disperse 90%
livid wasp
how does feral disc beat rsham warr?
stray sigil
clear pulsar
I disperse based on enemy presses
stray sigil
stray sigil
how does feral disc beat rsham warr?
go rsham with priest and aids the woyer
seems like the easiest woyer matchup lol
viscid remnant
ROTATE is not the same as react
stray sigil
rsham is ass
livid wasp
but warr kills priest
stray sigil
u can aids the woyer
lime light
also
shy snow
its a counter to feral disc
lime light
also jungle is like
shy snow
well known fact also
lime light
lvl 90 tier comp
stray sigil
aint not way rsham comps is a counter in 2s
livid wasp
jungle feels shit
stray sigil
shy snow
ground, shear, shamans can dispell root
livid wasp
deva or affli feels better
stray sigil
every healer can dispell roots
shy snow
shhh
livid wasp
warr can just oneshot discs easily
shy snow
ye if hes afk
stray sigil
also shear omegalul when ur sitting on him maiming and ahit
same for clone idk
literally shouldnt matter
u should def shit on that
i think ur problem
is u take too long to do smg
shy snow
shaman too op this patch
stray sigil
so u fall behind
and it feels like shit
if u just go right away there is no way they recover
livid wasp
ok ill record the games next time and you tell me
lime light
idk if u q 2s for fun, there is a problem
with you
its legit the worst by far bracket to log
stray sigil
idk if u q 2s for fun, there is a problem
feral 2s in sl was a vibe
livid wasp
its the only thing I can queue I cant find anyone for 3s
clear pulsar
This is so much brain dmg man
clear pulsar
Bro
stray sigil
everything is possible
stray sigil
stray sigil
livid wasp
I could but youre prolly asleep when I come home from work
clear pulsar
I'm trying to find a guild to raid casual now
Fuji bullied me out of pvp
It's all ogre
viscid remnant
feji
lime light
also SP
clear pulsar
2.2M damage
stray sigil
stray sigil
its real but last time it was fun
clear pulsar
Execute + slayers
clear pulsar
Idk why you hate feral rn
viscid remnant
i swear every feral player has braindamage
stray sigil
viscid remnant
r u dumbn
stray sigil
sinful i was doing 60%+ hp of someone in a bite
@clear pulsar bt curio never forget
viscid remnant
idk legit every feral player has shizophrenia
stray sigil
its real
clear pulsar
Be nice
viscid remnant
allegedly
stray sigil
lime light
iam slayin noobs
livid wasp
surely I will have fun playing feral druid when I get home
