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sly marsh
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bajheera is usually pretty good at sharing his UI details, maybe check his youtube or discord

clear pulsar
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I think he uses threatplates

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But any good nameplate addon can do that

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Threatplates is nice, Plater is the most customizable but it's a bit daunting to setup

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I used Kuinameplates for a long time until I didnt like the things it couldnt do anymore

viscid remnant
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Hes using the goathead talent

sudden pilot
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that ui is so terrible

onyx wadi
weary canyon
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@onyx wadi omg hi

viscid remnant
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Nowaecuh

polar nymph
weary canyon
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yea

polar nymph
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pog

livid wasp
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rshaman is such a stupid healer derp you gotta stand in this earthen wall derp

late wraith
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truuuue

livid wasp
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why play with a rsham when you can play with anything else and not have to think about that

late wraith
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nice dust cloud IDIOT

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i'm not standing in that shit

safe heart
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Rsham is aids to play

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In pve, it's peace
You spam chain heal

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In pvp
No one's hp will go up

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Everyone's dying

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Your buddy is 1 centimeter outside of spirit link so he dies

late wraith
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i'm not standing in your puddle

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sorry you put that there but i'm not standing in it

random patrol
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Ill hug the rsham, make him stand inside my giant boomy body and take us both out when the cleave comp drops on us

late wraith
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he's going to stand

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where?

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inside?

empty thicket
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as rdruid how should my healing spells order be showing in details?

clear pulsar
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Lifebloom #2

random patrol
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@late wraith wow has zero collision between pcs so yes inside the body of another player

empty thicket
clear pulsar
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Show meter and show talents

empty thicket
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k, lemme play an skirmish at least

onyx wadi
empty thicket
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I'm using the same build as Dex and Chas, sometimes i take off master shapeshifter to reforestation

clear pulsar
# empty thicket

Sounds about right, LB is always #2 for me cuz I play budding leaves over thriving veg, but it's not a huge margin, this looks fine

empty thicket
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feels so bad, ngl

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wish hots would do more

clear pulsar
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Thats not gonna happen anytime soon yeah

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But your healing will feel better as Wildstalker

empty thicket
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not feeling wildstalker till 4pc or 11.0.5

clear pulsar
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KOTG needs offensive pressure to win, use up the instant Starfires and dump Starsurges with it to gain an edge

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Healing wise there's no comparison

empty thicket
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i've tried it in 2s and feels like i heal a lot less, even in swiftmend healing burst windows

clear pulsar
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Pvpers will take 2 months to catch onto wildstalker being infinitely more healing as they always do

empty thicket
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i tried the implant+prosperity tech, but felt terrible

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was i missing something?

clear bloom
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double swiftmend with wildstalker feels good.

clear pulsar
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I dont think you need prosperity for it, VI is a great little effect, but thats just it

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It's an insane healing buff

empty thicket
clear pulsar
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You swiftmend someone and they're instantly taking >30% extra healing for 8 seconds

empty thicket
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i've tried a couple games and reflected on them and came to conclusion that at least i would wait for 4pc

clear bloom
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if you swiftmend, tree proc, regrowth that's a massive heal tbh.

empty thicket
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yea, but outside that it sucks

clear pulsar
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Play early spring and WG on cd

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Swap germ points to budding leaves if mana is a problem

empty thicket
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and Harmony of the Grove + Power of Nature pumps hard

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even hots were doing more because treants

clear pulsar
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They're doing so much you were complaining about how they do 0 healing 10 mins ago

empty thicket
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i mean, more than wildstalker

tiny oar
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wildstalker is the way

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metaphors saw it

empty thicket
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yo, lakerz

tiny oar
empty thicket
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yea, i kinda went the same way as him back in beta

clear pulsar
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As a modifier to your spells Wildstalker is 3x as good as KOTG it's not comparable AAAAAHHHHH

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KOTG's only claim to fame is instant starfires

empty thicket
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care to show me your details logs?

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or something

tiny oar
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I will stream some wildstalker shuffle 2night maybe

empty thicket
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oh

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hmu when you do it

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pls

clear pulsar
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I dont have any on my details rn but I can q up a game here soon

empty thicket
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kk

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appreciate it very much

clear pulsar
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Was playing balders gate with utmost naughtiness

tiny oar
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that's wild XD

clear pulsar
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I'm an invis archer

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And my gold only goes up cuz I pickpocket literally all the gold I spend back from vendors

tiny oar
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f2f making huge dividends

livid wasp
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how do you enjoy this game

safe heart
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I have felt very unmotivated to log in lately

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I was kinda hype first week

livid wasp
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I feel like a loser every 3s session

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idk how people ignore their badness and somehow just enjoy the game

clear pulsar
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Had a bit of a cat and mouse game with the paladin spamming rep on me it was a fun one

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God this game is so fucking fun when enemy healer isnt evoker

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@tiny oar

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RIGHT?

tiny oar
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pres is the bullies i would fight in the schoolyard yelling slurs at me

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we will persevere against all odds face

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never give in to despair

clear pulsar
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And so you did

tiny oar
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oppression has nothing to do with it

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guess im not streaming 2night sry meun :\

empty thicket
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rip

polar nymph
polar nymph
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OpPRESSING

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Press

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Get it?

safe heart
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READ

tiny oar
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no i really dont

polar nymph
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ahh nvm then 😦

polar nymph
safe heart
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if u have more questions , ping el patron

tiny oar
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i played with him the other day

random patrol
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how about that server reset everyone

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rip anyone in a solo game or blitz

safe heart
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it didnt affect me cuz i wasnt gunna log in anyway

tiny oar
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wheres my lvl 80 boost man

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i feel like enji

safe heart
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Realer than EV

random patrol
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wow blitz is inflated as f

fair seal
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As a resto druid I am feeling like it is really hard to keep people up in solo shuffle. Any tips or feedback anyone could give would be greatly appreciated

clear pulsar
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Game is hard against evoker and disc

clear pulsar
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Wildstalker in my eyes adds a good bit more healing, but it "requires" casting WG to get more procs out of it, Early Spring may help, and dropping Germ for Budding Leaves may help with mana if thats an issue.

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While KOTG gives you offensive pressure thru passive Moonfires and the instant casts

random patrol
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1.7 mill starsurge as chicken.............on a tank..............with salt water active..................

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anyway hope everyone is having a good day/evening or Idk maybe even not a horrid day

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cept for the presvokers

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they know what they did

fair seal
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Ok gotcha, I have been having mana issues for sure, I will try to slow damage a bit with cyclone and roots and such

quaint rapids
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I think I'm just going to wait for shuffle to inflate before trying to get 1800

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Don't have the time to play 3 game modes+ skill issue

tiny oar
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curse of enjoying different minigames

tiny oar
tiny oar
clear pulsar
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No I'm playing tranq

tiny oar
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oh word thought u dropped it in df

clear pulsar
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GG upgrade is prettttty worthless rn

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And verdancy just didnt keep up with every other spell copping 40% buffs

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I was a huge verdancer

tiny oar
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I rly dont like dropping focused growth or high winds or tranq bub idk

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maybe I just hard card WGs every now and then lmao

clear pulsar
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I'm in melee range all the time anyways

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I drop high winds

tiny oar
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legendary

clear pulsar
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[With realm restarts] Deephaul Ravine is now available in Battleground Blitz and Rated Battleground modes.

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DOG

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WATER

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BATTLEGROUND

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I hate that place

tiny oar
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ill be real i got no clue what that battleground is

clear bloom
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the new one

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with the gem in the middle and the mine carts you can travel to the other side in up top

tiny oar
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bleh

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hate payload maps fr

random patrol
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bring back rated seething shore

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and strand of the ancients

tiny oar
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ur so silly voodoo

random patrol
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I was being serious though

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and old deepwind gorge

tiny oar
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im losing steam dude

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dont think im gonna make it

random patrol
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@tiny oar swap to bear and do dungeons

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profit

tiny oar
faint robin
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What is a rough guesstimate on how long it would take to got from honor level 0-10

vestal citrus
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bc you can do it over a couple weeks just doing 1st win of the day in bg / epic bg / brawl

faint robin
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But weeks for sure? Days if you’re grinding wins?

vestal citrus
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yer

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pretty much

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couple days if you're grinding

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longer hours and shit

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but certainly atainable, its just time

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not necessarily being good

faint robin
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Trying to decide which grind I would prefer, this one or the balance of power quest 😂

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Booth kinda seem like ass

clear pulsar
random patrol
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@tiny oar they were mean to me and made me carry the ancient artifact in ashran and I did a billion

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wo is me

viscid remnant
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Goathead

random patrol
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@tiny oar now for bear leveling

tiny oar
random patrol
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@tiny oar Im leveling a second druid

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it's a bear for epic bg honor leveling

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farming*

tiny oar
random patrol
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@tiny oar I will not blemish my main with such a dirty spec ty

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but alt Idc

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plus I get to do a bear pun

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mostly that

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all the bear puns

tiny oar
viscid remnant
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aint no way cuh

random patrol
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@tiny oar growl in pvp yw

tiny oar
random patrol
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@tiny oar growl has a pvp talent

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that increases damage your opponent takes

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makes it viable in pvp

tiny oar
random patrol
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ever eaten bear meat though

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I have

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it's okay

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not really worth the effort

tiny oar
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😵‍💫

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cant say i have

random patrol
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emu is good though

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@tiny oar you see we Horde eat the well fallen enemy

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as well as taurens

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especially taurens

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great steak

tiny oar
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time to play bear in dungeons for 3 more lvls

viscid remnant
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u taking forever wth

random patrol
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yes victory

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I corrupted Lake she's a guardian main now

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you need the mage tower fel bear though

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or owlbear

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owlbear especially if you do ec

tiny oar
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i like this one more tho

random patrol
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@tiny oar werebear best bear

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fucker skipped leg day

tiny oar
tiny oar
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ITS SO FUCKED UP

lost sun
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Petition to make Blinding Light not dispell dots unless talented for it

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Those rets jumping into the frey dispelling the whole enemy team in bgs just to die a couple of seconds after is infuriating and way too common

tiny oar
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ill sign it fuck it

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@viscid remnant bro ur name cannot be Shekelsniffr LOL

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thats so good

viscid remnant
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aint no way cuh

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when i saw how evokers looka dn that they have a huge snout i thought that they could sniff the shekels

tiny oar
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lolllll

livid wasp
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david plays with lake but doesnt even reply to my whispers

viscid remnant
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When did u whisper me

livid wasp
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september 17th 12:14 am

viscid remnant
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Too late for me to reply

livid wasp
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you were on

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how the fuck is this one feral 2k in blitz

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3 x less dmg than me in a damage bg

shy snow
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stronger mental

livid wasp
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do you just get 2k automatically if you spam enough

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I feel like ive played plenty but ive not done my placements even

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placements are 20 games

viscid remnant
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Aint no way cuh

tiny oar
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Aint no way cuh

viscid remnant
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Put that fish on the scale cuh

polar nymph
tiny oar
polar nymph
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Tinytank

viscid remnant
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tiny but evil

robust vigil
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What's up my fellow droods

robust vigil
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I've been wanting to level up a healer and test the waters healing in solo shuffle, arenas and BGs, haven't healed competitive pvp since WOTLK (2012)

I have a level 50 druid Ive been wanting to level up. Always loved the druid class for so many reasons. And I'm kind of just looking for an excuse to get back on a druid.

Any advice for a young lad

green igloo
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comparing wotlk Rdruid in high rating with Rdruid now is like comparing god with a russian

hallow acorn
# robust vigil I've been wanting to level up a healer and test the waters healing in solo shuff...

It’s not in the best state as of now, but still has one of the most fun toolkits (as in wotlk) with high carry potential, issue in solo shuffle is that every teammate isn’t exactly reliable with cd useage and such, which makes it sometimes difficult to be the proactive healer that resto druids require, as they struggle with catching back up, however it’s definitely viable but not top tier,

Mastery is your best stat by far and seems like the general consensus is that it’s worth dropping some ilvl for it (I.e blue crafted gear)

I would recommend looking at Lontars YouTube guide, he gives a pretty good overview on rotation and cd management (granted that it’s of course very situational) and then watch minpojke who streams resto Druid games every day at a high lvl

robust vigil
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I've seen Lontars channel he seems top tier. I wish he did content for other classes besides healers too lol. His guides seem the most thorough

robust vigil
hollow fable
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rdruid is fs playable, just not as simple as disc at a higher level

harsh ore
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The only problem I’ve had in pvp is mana

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Disc has more mana than me by end of game

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But otherwise healing is very easy

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And cyclone range is fucking op

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Like broken as hell

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I can cc people from so far now without being punished

velvet quest
green igloo
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no

viral granite
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How much are todays feral pvp changes gonna impact things

livid wasp
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isnt it like a 14% bite dmg nerf and 10% buff to rip and rake

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moar dots

gloomy nova
robust vigil
eager yoke
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Hey guys what is the usable drink in pvp ?

tropic schooner
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arent any only mana drinks useable?

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in arena outside shuffle

eager yoke
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nah there is always one I think ?

tropic schooner
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hasnt been the case last expansions

eager yoke
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ow rly ? ok

gloomy nova
gloomy nova
eager yoke
gloomy nova
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Cant remember the name now but think it has the icon of like a glass of milk or smth

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Useable in arena, not SS tho

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Last ssn there was a slighly better one u could buy from AH. Not sure if there is one this expac tho. So just get it from the inkeeper

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@eager yoke Quicksilver Sipper

eager yoke
tropic schooner
sour wren
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Is there an addon or wa to remind you to equip pvp gear when in battleground?

safe heart
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Hey ferals , do we still press rake even if we're playing talents

soft zealot
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Anyone have a good 2s pvp build from the bleed buffs that happened today?

robust vigil
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Yo as far as gearing is concerned

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Am I able to use catalyst on bloody tokens gear

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Or do I have to use it on conquest gear

safe heart
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Idk how to tell u this but it's the same build

robust vigil
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Yeah but bloody gear has lower item level than conquest. So if you upgrade the bloody tokens gear you have a higher average item level

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And bloody gear is just in general worse and more replaceable

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So might as well upgrade the worse gear

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And keep the better gear

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If its all same diff

sly marsh
cerulean token
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Wait did we get crazy good buffs today?

safe heart
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Who's we

cerulean token
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Also, hoping for some help with this: I have some conquest/bloody token gear with vers and mastery. I want to use the catalyst to get my set bonus, but it takes away one of those stats. What's the play there? Are there certain pieces we want from the catalyst? Just copy Snupy?

cerulean token
safe heart
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Snupy just farms viewers

cerulean token
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Wait really? I have been out of the loop for a while

hushed wasp
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wth is Twinklefairy the feral druid

cerulean token
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I was playing at max lvl for a week not knowing about the catalyst what a scrub lmao. So hyped to have the set bonus now, does it feel strong for feral?

sour wren
cerulean token
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Ok final question, how do I convert a vault piece into a pvp piece?

stray sigil
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uh

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u cant convert pve into pvp

cerulean token
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yeah I realize that now

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IDK what to do with the vault... all I do is PvP. I am reading I cant even use the socket from thecurrency on pvp items

worn vector
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If all you do is pvp, how do you even have a vault? mrow

stray sigil
worn vector
stray sigil
static steeple
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energy redistribution beacon can't be the move for rdruid

cerulean token
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BUt yeah I dont care about dungeons or raids, anyone have advice on what to use vault stuff for?

static steeple
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this feels so bad

safe heart
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Nothing you get in the vault will help you in pvp

cerulean token
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^ty ty, thats all I'm lookin for

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cest la vie

static steeple
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not true

cerulean token
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crests?

static steeple
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gear?

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lol

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i got my 4set early cause of m+

velvet quest
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Woo you’re 1% stronger for 2 weeks

static steeple
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yeah tier is 1% wooo

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i'm not tryna force him into doing vault, it's just something if u do all content

cerulean token
# static steeple gear?

Are you joking? I've mentioned that I want pvp stuff every step of the way, pve gear is not good in pvp

static steeple
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pve gear is not good in pvp?

cerulean token
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PVP gear gets a substantial ilvl increase when in pvp

static steeple
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oh wow

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tell me more, i never played WoW before

cerulean token
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oh yeah, its a big bonus

static steeple
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did you know that pve gear can be high ilvl?

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lmao

cerulean token
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sorry I thought you knew, but yeah its huge. You can buy all green honor gear and you will be base 626 ilvl in PvP

static steeple
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yes i do know, im trolling you

cerulean token
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k man, you do you enjoy PvPing in 610 gear lmao

static steeple
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if you do high end pve gear, the ilvl is good

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my gear isn't 610

cerulean token
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What is it?

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whats your ilvl screenshot it

random patrol
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I do the vault for 3k gold

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that's it

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no lit I do it for 3k gold(I have millions but the more gold the better)

static steeple
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hero gear is fine for pvp

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u can replace it later but save conquest early

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4set is good

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why are you mad? lol

cerulean token
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You dont have any pvp pieces on?

static steeple
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u dont HAVE to do it

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but to say it's worthless is not true

cerulean token
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Bro holy moly, ok man

static steeple
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like mythic+ gear from your vault maxes is mythic track

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meaning it can be upgraded to 639

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that's equal to pvp ilvl

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and some pieces give better stats

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it was the same thing in DF, i replaced my pvp staff for better mastery

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this is only if u do high end ofc

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i'm not saying you have to do it

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but the sentence "pve gear is bad in pvp" simply isn't true if you get the best pve gear

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ur saying 610 ilvl, which is not what M+ 10s give you

cerulean token
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Good pint I should replace my honor gloves that give me 626 for the 610 gloves in my vault that also dont have vers. You're making some great points and not cherry picking weird examples that are super unrealistic for someone that has stated multiple times that he doesnt do dungeons or raids. I will then grind shit so I can get those gloves back to 626, because that is a good use of my time. Really, thank you for the advice, a truly enlightening experience.

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"pve gear is bad in pvp" damn you got me. I cant believe I said such a thing. I'm glad you wrote a paragraph explaining this one example that is subjectively better

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Go into 3s with full pve gear since pve gear isnt bad in pvp. good stuff dude.

static steeple
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you literally just wrote a paragraph

cerulean token
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Amazing observation whoa

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you literally just responded to me. your discord name is literally NJzFinest. literally.

static steeple
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using literally 3 times in one post lmao

cerulean token
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you literally just lmao literally

static steeple
cerulean token
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literally?!

static steeple
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you're doing well, keep it up!

viscid remnant
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Nowaedud

cerulean token
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dudeawon

cerulean token
static steeple
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literally

cerulean token
safe heart
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So if you do max reward from pve you can be like 2% more optimized than if u just used pvp gear
This is huge for me

static steeple
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not a great display of math, but let's not pretend people don't min max in WoW.
there's a reason why the top is pretty much only using crafted pieces for non-tier instead of the vendored conquest pieces

static steeple
clear bloom
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You get a lot of valorstones from pvp tbh. No need to grind to level them up. Just pvp some more.

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Even just random bgs.

static steeple
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yes

clear bloom
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And tbh until this point. If you only pvp you probably have a lot.

static steeple
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yeah i don't do any vault on my alts. just my M+ main

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this discord has high end pvers so idk why ppl are freaking out when im just stating facts lol

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in DF, pvpers literally got a pve staff nerfed

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if it was a 2% buff, it wouldn't of gotten hard nerfed lmao

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(Iridal, the Earth's Master)

clear bloom
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Nah it makes sense. If you can get it, and upgrade the gear. It's better. In druids case it may not be that crazy at the end of the day but it's still true.

static steeple
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facts, and i dont wanna force anyone into anything they dont wanna do. i prefer the vault-less pvp grind

clear bloom
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Yeah I'm not gonna pve at all for pvp gear. Too lazy.

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Demon Hunters that get 4 piece early eating good.

static steeple
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disc 4set :L

clear bloom
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Haven't even looked at it tbh.

static steeple
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still solid with pvp nerf

clear bloom
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Damn what

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Are we playing the wrong class SadgeBusiness

cerulean token
clear bloom
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I need to try Feral. It has always looked fun.

livid wasp
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wow isnt fun

clear bloom
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Balance just so chill and Rdruid just so fun. Never got around to it.

clear pulsar
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Gear maximization talks always bring out the most tism in ppl

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God bless pvp channel

cerulean token
# clear bloom I need to try Feral. It has always looked fun.

I love the one man survivalist aspect of it, especially in world PvP. My heart pumps when I escape a gank. Before Cata I would sit outside stormwind and kill PvP flagged people with rocket gloves then nitro boots away. Heart would be pounding out of my chest trying to hide while they looked for me. Met my best WoW friends doing that tbh

livid wasp
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everyones just doing pve

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on my bnet

viral granite
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wassup with the weps questi know they changed it but im not seeing it atm

clear pulsar
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It's an achievement now I think

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Not a quest

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And it just rewards you a token

viral granite
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whats it called

viscid remnant
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it does the thing

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with this and that

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and the thing that does this is there

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you know what i mean dude

clear pulsar
cerulean token
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hell yeah I fuckin love tokens

viral granite
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got it ty

viscid remnant
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What does this 2x mean

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Can i get 1 agi 1 int

viral granite
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2 tokesn

viscid remnant
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Staff

clear pulsar
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No, 2hander uses 2 tokens

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Or you can use 1 on main hand 1 on offhand

viscid remnant
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Ah ok

viral granite
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except str 2hers

clear pulsar
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Yeah except for warrior

viscid remnant
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What do u think abt getting mainland and crafting offhand with embelish

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Conquestmaxxing?

clear pulsar
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Thats... wasting 525 conquest

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How are you maxxing it

viscid remnant
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How

clear pulsar
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You're gonna hve the offhand token rotting in your bag the whole season

viscid remnant
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Embelish on weapon is op no?

clear pulsar
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An entire 1% secondary stat

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When you can just use a dif embellishment

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That may be 0.8%

viscid remnant
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Notsure what they do

clear pulsar
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I'm buying feral weppy and crafting pve weppy for resto

viscid remnant
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Ijust heard its op

clear pulsar
# viscid remnant Notsure what they do

Just 2ndary stat proc. It's bis in pve but the margin is very small because embellishment is all garbage. Average ~800 secondaries if you never leave combat.

static steeple
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are all the rdruids here using energy redistribution beacon?

viscid remnant
#

Also isnt that energy beacon thingy an embelishment

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Isnt that just vitality conduit from bfa

clear pulsar
#

Isnt it isnt it isnt it

viscid remnant
#

Dud

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Idk

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I need to read

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The things

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But icba

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2days ago i found out precoc isnt an embelish

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So igot no idea

clear pulsar
#

Seems ok

static steeple
#

gotcha

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idk, feels bad when it's not even doing half as much healing as other healers cause of how druids work

#

maybe it will be better when we get our DF 4set back as a talent

#

should make clearcast regrowth count as 3 direct heals at once

clear pulsar
#

Idk I find that it does a lot for some other healers in very short rounds/at the beginning low dampening

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And eventually if they arent more actively healing themselves it stops doing anything while for me I can catch back up to full hp easier from passive self healing

#

I promise you interaction with a 1% embellishment is not the buff you think it is, or you want

static steeple
#

yeah i'm not sure what else i would even go

#

choice was easy when we had mastery buff

viscid remnant
#

Idont believe a 500 dps feral @stray sigil

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Sorry cuh

clear pulsar
#

The mastery embellishment had unusual scaling for 2ndary stats and embellishments in general are even weaker now, on top of not scaling with ilvl anymore.

static steeple
#

ah i didn't notice that

stray sigil
#

real

viscid remnant
#

Idk dud

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Need to check the statistics

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We have to check this moment

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Embelishments in df did nothing other than precoc

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Now they do stuff

#

He must be trolling

still bridge
#

are there updated feral PvP pins and stuff or just typical wowhead/icy?

stray sigil
#

tbf

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best one is prob the elemental lens just for dmg

viscid remnant
#

Dude what did rhey do last xpac

stray sigil
#

vers one is like

viscid remnant
#

HEALING DARTS CUH

stray sigil
#

2% vers or something above 80

#

the mines got nerfed

viscid remnant
#

This chat is full of trollers

stray sigil
#

the shield is ass

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so its like either u do lens or weap

viscid remnant
#

Ugot a goathead cuh

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Also kog said ur short

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Both face and feji

spiral kernel
#

anyone get the pvp weapon with 2200? is this quest completable?

tardy hare
#

Bro has trouble understanding 2200/2500

cerulean token
paper totem
#

What yall doing for feral? Bleed or Bite builds.

stray sigil
harsh ore
#

i got disconnected in a solo shuffle and lost 172 rating because area52 is going to shit

#

fucking amazing

tropic schooner
harsh ore
#

good bye

tropic schooner
umbral glade
#

is the 4 set worth for boomkin?

#

over targetted stats

random patrol
#

no

cerulean token
severe marlin
tiny oar
harsh ore
safe heart
#

I'm gunna let you finish but I feel like surv hunter is the manliest hunter spec

sly marsh
#

fact check true

tiny oar
#

I'm gunna let you finish but I feel like no hunter spec is the manliest hunter spec because class and specialization choices are not inherently gendered

clear bloom
clear bloom
#

Rexxar is a survival hunter p_chad

tiny oar
#

whatever helps yall sleep at night

short charm
clear pulsar
tiny oar
#

hell yea

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never give up fellow rdruids

clear pulsar
#

Enhancement

random patrol
#

I like aug, prot p, disc

stray sigil
clear pulsar
#

Yeah no

zinc wadi
#

bis reward

minor galleon
#

Anyone able to tell me which conquest weapon(s) for resto druid?

vestal citrus
random patrol
#

when you get the 2500 conquest but didnt get the achievment

vestal citrus
#

from the achievement

random patrol
#

gg blizz gg

vestal citrus
minor galleon
#

you get the tokens though and can pick now

#

with the achievement

#

staff or 1h/off?

vestal citrus
#

if staff is versa/mast i'd probs just rip that

#

you can check murlok to see what others went with

minor galleon
#

Thx!

random patrol
#

relogged still no achievment for conquest weapon

vestal citrus
#

checked ur uhh

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mailbox?

random patrol
#

yep

#

no tokens

#

5th relog after restarting bnet time

vestal citrus
#

i wonder btw

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if u can multibox exploit that achieve

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like u log on another char on ur acct

#

it procs at the same time

#

u get tokens on both chars if ur logged in

random patrol
#

prob

vestal citrus
#

at the same time

#

i did that with CMs back in the day

random patrol
#

nope 0 tokens

#

rip

#

it's almost like they don't test this stuff

#

oh wait they don't

#

well hopefully it just registers some time tonight

half thicket
#

Any good guides for balance or resto for bgb? Are the ones on icy-veins good?

random patrol
#

@tiny oar nooooo my ocd is going to hate that all week lol

#

@vestal citrus got the achievment on the 11th relog

vestal citrus
#

fy

random patrol
#

I wonder if I go with authority of depths or the mastery enchant hmm

#

thankfully I have the kind of gold to blow on the enchants to test both

tawny apex
#

dude what is going on with warlocks, why are they so OP rn??

vestal citrus
#

Warlock got blessed with insane hero talents imo, lots of damage

tawny apex
#

i know but its extremely absurd

vestal citrus
#

Yup 😦

random patrol
#

authority of the depths 0.3 -2 percent of dam hmmmmmm

vestal citrus
#

Best you can do is try to dispel on yourself and interrupt them when they go for burst

random patrol
#

well its always been that mid

vestal citrus
#

Soul Rot -> Malefic spam is their big window of dam

tawny apex
#

i have ptsd from dispelling with locks

vestal citrus
#

Are you playing healer?

tawny apex
#

yes

vestal citrus
#

Depending on what content you're doing, making really good use of Lifebloom on yourself + partner in 2s for example, and just dispelling UA -> Bearform can be a good deal of "free" healing

#

If you're fairly still you can even efflo yourself for extra healing, but yeah can be scary to dispel UA, especially if your partner isn't stopping the damage coming in

tawny apex
#

i just wanted to make sure im not the only one experiecing this insanity

vestal citrus
#

haha nop

#

they crank

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Even when they're not turreting and getting heaps of casts off

viscid remnant
#

Pluh

twilit falcon
#

Anyone know any 2s resto druid streamer? Watching MinPojke has helped me so much in shuffle but I feel clueless in 2s about when you can go offensive in cat and so on.

vestal citrus
#

POJKE

#

you can check uhh

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Mmarkers if he's playing rdru

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chas? idk if he stream

#

lontar

#

metaphors maybe

twilit falcon
#

pojke just spamming shuffles and the others seem to avoid druid mostly

vestal citrus
#

yer

#

unfortuantely streamers just gonna stream what they want + whats probably meta-ish

twilit falcon
#

yeah druid still seem to be really strong i 2s

#

But I just end up not beeing offensive enough and running out of mana way ahead of any other healer

clear pulsar
#

Select master shapeshifter

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If you're cat inclined then it works out great just stunning on cd

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If you're weird you can play kotg and use up every free Starfire + Starsurge on cd and you'll never go oom

twilit falcon
#

I tried out the same build every top resto druid in 2s run with kotg but maim+rip and starfire/starsurge

gloomy nova
twilit falcon
#

I just dont know when to actually use maim/rip without beeing super exposed for cc's

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yeah I know rdruid are kinda shajt in 3s/ss but they are still by far the top class in 2s so there is no excuse for me beeing shite there

gloomy nova
#

No they are not by far the top class in 2s rn

#

And u dont need to play maim to be sucessful in 2s

twilit falcon
#

Yeah I know, going for a more defensive build and caster focus and more cc's went a lot better. beacuse its easier But it sounds way more fun to sit more in cat.

#

I just want to find a streamer who plays the "meta" offensive build and try and learn how it works

gloomy nova
#

I mean fun is subjective. Try playing a cat spec and see if u like it. The perfect times to get CP is when u are hotted, on DR and/or when they dont have burst

twilit falcon
#

Aye

random patrol
#

mastery enchant seems decent at least when stacking mastery as kotg chicken

#

up to 2 mill surges

clear pulsar
# twilit falcon Aye

Call of the wild = 5 free combo points each proc
Swipe generates cps into Cycloned targets
Wouldnt bother Ripping too much, stunning is more impactful cuz Rip does fuck all damage and you wont have combo points for much more than a finisher every 25-30s

clear pulsar
#

Just pay attention to their trinket. If you're going in for a stun and you're vulnerable, dont sit there swiping for 6 seconds.

#

You need to pay more attention to what is going on offensively so try to get a feel for when they're gonna use trinket too

#

If you're rushing into enemy healer when they have to trinket your next stun, consider tranqing immediately after

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Only pres and rsham dont have instant cc to dump on you off a trinket

remote spade
#

Hello new feral pvp player here . Just wondering if covoke is viable in general? Struggling to do decent dps without it and noticed it's never really picked in higher rating . Am I supposed to pick the other talent in most cases?

surreal stump
#

Convoke is only good for 1v1 and 2s I think

remote spade
#

Is feral supposed to be a burst class? I'm still learning but it seems outside of convoke I'm really struggling to to pressure

surreal stump
#

Our burst is pretty good within incarn this patch

twilit falcon
#

didnt they turn it down slightly with this patch and buff bleeds instead?

#

as a healer ferals is one of the classes that burst hardest in the opener, obviously doesnt kill a healer 1v1 but forces loads of cds really fast.

neat talon
#

i am confused wasnt there a q to get a pvp weapon if you reach certain amount of conq. points?

neat talon
tardy hare
#

just get 2500 in a season

remote spade
vestal citrus
zenith swan
#

How do I duel DH, monk, and evoker as boomy

gloomy nova
tardy hare
safe heart
neat talon
safe heart
#

Drop the quest and re accept it if it sounds wrong

neat talon
#

there is no q anymore

safe heart
#

Ah ok then idk

#

GLHF

neat talon
#

its an achievement now

calm lion
#

It is retroactively calculated based on your conquest earned this season. As such everything you did this season should count. At least that‘s how I interpreted the Blue Post.

wanton ridge
#

It is, I had saved 6 conquest medals as 300 more conquest was needed, I logged in and used them, and the achieve popped

civic bobcat
#

Newer resto here, what is an effective way to use my conq/bloody tokens/heraldry?

Weapon obv comes from quest/achieve and I would like to get my 2-set bonus.

I’m already full honor gear and have yesterdays cap but haven’t spend any yet since I have severe fomo if I “waste” limited resources on the wrong slots

hallow acorn
#

I.e. one ring, boots

civic bobcat
#

Ah ok! Thanks mate

timber birch
#

that the 2500 conquest was converted to

neat talon
#

its a Feats of Strength if i translated that correctly so i guess u cant find it beforehand,atleast i couldnt

timber birch
#

ah ok i get it now

clear pulsar
timber birch
#

did they reduce the rating needed to unlock the elite transmog?

#

is it 1700 now?

clear pulsar
#

No I dont think so

#

Still 1800

tardy hare
#

its 1800

timber birch
#

ah ok

#

thanks

neat talon
#

rating in blitz is wierd i got to 1600 with my first char and suddenly couldnt lose rating until i reached 1700 on my second char i reached 1500 and suddenly couldnt gain rating until i hit 1400

livid wasp
#

meme bracket

civic bobcat
clear pulsar
#

No

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But it can still be up to 639 if it's myth track from m+ or raid

#

Which is the same as conquest

hollow basin
#

Resto druid hero talent question

On murlok there seems to be an even split between power of nature and durability of nature.

Is there a benefit to using one over the other and does the cenarion ward from treants contribute to our mastery stacks?

clear pulsar
#

It doesnt contribute mastery stack

#

It might proc photosynthesis blooms. I know their WGs can proc photo, so it wouldnt surprise me if the CW did. I will not be testing that tho.

viscid remnant
#

@tiny oar can u stop

tiny oar
viscid remnant
#

its been going off for like 5 min

tiny oar
#

yea idk chief

viscid remnant
#

cooked ass program

late wraith
#

Oh lake if you log onto battlenet from two different computers it’ll do this. It does it to me all the time if my laptop is open somewhere

#

probably also does it if you log onto bnet on your phone

velvet quest
#

Does it spam you like this when I log onto my 23 different tailors to do my little dailies?

clear pulsar
#

I always knew you were a big taylor fan

harsh ore
viscid remnant
#

aint no way cuh

strange hawk
#

Rdruids going 2h pvp weapon or 1h/oh?

viral granite
#

there any feral macros that let me combine like rip/swarm as a single caste

tropic schooner
#

@late wraith got the gcap mailbox from today

viscid remnant
#

hack

tardy hare
#

🐳

late wraith
tropic schooner
#

might actually get a potion char again

#

even with 200 stacks inventory slots are somewhat limited

static steeple
#

you can also craft the pvp staff for more mastery

viscid remnant
#

Big moneyman

tropic schooner
late wraith
#

i fell off my schemes. i need to get back on teh scheme grind because i had to spend like 100k on a weapon and i am pissed

tropic schooner
#

for me biggest money makers atm are prolly enchanting (especially chest) cooking (feasts) and now the pots

#

things like marbled stones always decent

#

but at this point you kinda need 1-3 profession tools for most things at least

late wraith
#

chest enchants!

#

i was making decent gold off last season enchants but that's dipped a tiny bit and also it's limited by concentration

tropic schooner
#

the r2 ones - r3 is massive upgrade for concentration use tho

#

like +15k

#

on EU

random patrol
#

"is ah flipping"

livid wasp
#

so youre the reason everything is overpriced as shit

tropic schooner
#

no

#

the margins are somewhat tight

#

like 5-10% are very very good margins

#

the reasons some things (during certain times) are overpriced

#

is idiots buying things right before raid time

#

/right after resets

tropic schooner
#

but fairly safe

late wraith
#

good to know i don't have any alch alts unfortch

tropic schooner
#

ah

#

btw if you didnt know

#

those pots still work

#

in tww

#

thats why they sell

late wraith
#

it's the same with old enchants

tropic schooner
#

would not say quite the same

#

old enchants dont say they dont work

#

while the phial says it doesnt

#

but it works

late wraith
#

plainsrunner's breeze gives the same speed boost as one of the newer ones

#

oh shiiiiii

tropic schooner
#

🍝

#

(it also stacks with the ambidex one)

late wraith
#

btw all of you in here, buy plainsrunner's breeze foot enchant don't buy the new shit lol. it's cheaper and its' the same. like i think it's exactly the same though maybe they've changed this

tropic schooner
late wraith
#

i think the highest highest one does something else

#

like the 30k one

#

but the middle tier one is just a 200 or 250 speed increase

#

or it was close enough that it's like damn do i pay 6000 or do i pay 12000 for the same shit

tropic schooner
#

but yea hope prices relax in the next 2-3 hours

#

so I can stock up on especially fish

tropic schooner
#

also this flask decent

#

(does sell tried)

#

and I ahve legit 0 invested in flask

maiden viper
#

ah first 6 shuffles of the expansion, all vs disc

livid wasp
#

uh dk is broken

left epoch
#

hey yall, as feral is Wildstalker or DotC better for flag carry in blitz?

kindred vigil
tropic schooner
#

like +100g each craft

kindred vigil
#

jeeeeze lol

tropic schooner
#

just obviously cant need r2 vials

kindred vigil
#

it's hovering around -7 to +3% profit NA lately

tropic schooner
#

with full multicraft and 0/1 r2 herb?

kindred vigil
#

full multicraft all T1 mats

tropic schooner
#

weird

kindred vigil
#

it was a 30-40% profit the other week made a good chunk of change then

#

my profitable recipes rn

tropic schooner
#

just looked up the cost of stuff

#

im quite sure its still around 100g profit

kindred vigil
tropic schooner
#

yes

kindred vigil
#

hmmm maybe my addon is being wonky?

#

rn it says i lose 65 gold per craft

tropic schooner
#

what are you using

kindred vigil
#

craftsim

tropic schooner
#

and do you have bis tools?

#

and the multicraft buff up

kindred vigil
#

i add in the multicraft in the simulation mode that said! you're correct i have T3 robes and T4 tool which i should fix ^^

tropic schooner
# kindred vigil rn it says i lose 65 gold per craft

but yea looking at the gold costs - arathors/luredrop seem ~5g more expensive on NA, mycobloom pretty much the same writhing sample about 30g more gilded vial also the same, so total the cost of 5+ potions is 70g more, however each pot sells for ~15g more - so even assuming 0 multicraft its at 75g for 5 pots more - so this worst case estimation is +5g for each potion in NA compared to EU

#

reality is a lot more tilted towards NA cause obviously shitton of multicraft proccs

kindred vigil
#

hmmm i'll throw it in my spreadsheet see if my addon/tsm is being wonky <3 would love for them to be profitable again lol been doing mostly hp potions but despite decent margins the profit per potion is quite low need to sell a lot lol

viscid remnant
#

This tha pvp channel not money channel

tropic schooner
kindred vigil
#

AH is pvp

tropic schooner
kindred vigil
#

see the guy who kept undercutting himself for an hour dropping potion prices by 30g ;-;

kindred vigil
tropic schooner
#

isnt that still months away

#

absolutely useless to think about

#

its still gonna be hots

kindred vigil
safe heart
#

Does anyone know an actually fun mobile game

late wraith
#

you can get ptr access! i think you just need to go on the battlenet website and request access

#

it might take a couple days but if you're really concerned and wanted to see for yourself, ptr is open to anyone with a sub

late wraith
polar nymph
#

Beavs no!

sly marsh
polar nymph
#

Enji would complain it takes too long to win.

tiny oar
#

he definitely would

late wraith
#

Wait you both play this?

weak moon
#

the top end damage of the conq polearm doesn't make it better than the staff with better stats?

#

for feral

clear bloom
tiny oar
#

one time I did a shuffle and lost and cried ad the insurmountavle weights of the world caved in on me then I wlaked my dogs and remmeberrd it is just a silly little video game and di I am just a silly little rdruid kitty and I annh am so cute and cool and awesome and nothing about the shuffle mattered snever so then I wassh happy again omggggg c:

kindred vigil
polar nymph
#

Open faced club sandwich

static steeple
tiny oar
polar nymph
clear pulsar
#

No, most of it is just adding a few new talents you could pick, the only forced change is a weaker Nature's Swiftness but there's a freed up talent point on that top section so you can upgrade it more

#

Everything else is the exact same + the chance of picking new talents

polar nymph
pallid granite
#

Quick question: How can resto druids counter evokers? They remove all my HoTs and in solo I never have time to get them all rolling again before my teammate dies. Any help would be dope!

clear pulsar
#

But you can annoy them a lot with roots, it prevents some of their healing, it's instant in tree form, remember that

#

And since their only cc is sleep walk, if you can keep track of when you're on DR from it and play aggressively on that timer you could land some cc of your own

pallid granite
#

Thank you Druid senpai. I will try!!!

karmic flame
#

So this may be a broad question but how is resto doing in pvp? Like solo shuffle and battleground blitz? I keep people saying (It's bad) on streams and stuff but nobody actually gives me reasons why it doesnt work

clear pulsar
#

The reason is evoker is everywhere and it hard counters us with mass purge

#

Spec is mostly fine

karmic flame
#

ahh ok

#

that makes sense then

#

I really like the spec so I will prob still give it a try to climb in BGB at least

still bridge
#

is it double focusing lens for embellishments?

gloomy nova
#

We arent bad just because of evokers. Evokers didnt pop up in the game this ssn

gloomy nova
random patrol
#

@still bridge for chicken? prob but vers is decent to, you could run the nerubian stuff to emb are pretty minor this expac

still bridge
#

feral?

clear pulsar
#

Do you understand the distinction?

random patrol
#

@still bridge that is the top choice on murloc io

#

I see a mxiture on the top players though

gloomy nova
clear pulsar
gloomy nova
#

Eat a dick man if u cant point out what im saying is wrong but just dislike me then block me or just stfu please

clear pulsar
#

Cry about it

gloomy nova
#

Im not crying at all ur just being pathetic

#

Aswell as giving wrong information

#

If someone asks about the state of resto why wouldnt i be honest about it?

clear pulsar
#

Wrong information: we are not the worst spec in the game and we probably shouldnt expect buffs, wee just have a bad matchup into a very popular healer

#

If you think there's any notable gap between rdru, rsham, hpala, you are absolutely coping out of your mind

#

And we're clearly better than mw and hpriest

#

We're perfectly fine

gloomy nova
#

Nah ur just delusional

#

100%

#

You have no idea what ur talking about yet ur the one talking here the most. U can already see how the stats are changing regarding representation across 2s, 3s and SS putting us way back.

#

And its happening for a reason

#

We might scale with gear but i doubt that will be enough

random patrol
#

been trying 1 point into goldrinn for free rng damage, it's been..............kind of not great tbh will try some other stuff later though

tardy hare
#

Rdru hot garbage in 2s cause 80% is disc or prevoker

hallow acorn
#

There’s a ton of rdru high up on the 2s ladder

gloomy nova
#

Not rly. Depends how you define a ton and high. At 1800+ theres almost 600 discs and 120-150 rdruids.

#

Plus 2s is a dogshit bracket to define how good a class is. And rdruid is generally gods of 2s

clear pulsar
#

It's a losing battle nectar

hallow acorn
#

No of course if you look at the whole population and there’s the argument of “what’s is required to reach that rating”

But tough to say a spec is garbage in 2s when in top 3 in eu there’s 2 resto druids.

The dogshit bracket argument could be said for any bracket, some classes will be better in different brackets and then there’s classes that do well in all atm (disc/pres) but that’s always the case and it rotates

clear pulsar
#

Fwiw our representation in 3s going by that metric is still #3 healer

gloomy nova
#

@clear pulsar clearly u dont see how the numbers have changed

gloomy nova
#

I reckon we will fall even further behind

tiny oar
#

yap less rip more thanks

gloomy nova
#

Also looking at the very top, the 0.1% is kinda irrelevant because people like nogard, lonthar, habibi etc will always play their druids

#

Hence be high up

#

I guess AWC will make it alot clearer for people

#

I will always be a rdruid main and i dont want my class to be OP. But we can almost not even compete with disc and pres rn and its annoying no real tuning is being done. Like struggling against 2.2 exp discs for me in SS is a big tell. Even alot of the top druids do. So when @clear pulsar says "we are fine" when i for sure know we arent is somewhat tilting

tiny oar
#

we are fine

clear pulsar
#

Why do you keep pinging me stop thinking about me bro

tiny oar
#

they will get nerfs

gloomy nova
#

They might, after AWC

tiny oar
#

if you spent as much time queuing rdruid as you do yapping about it you'd be that much closer to lontar or flop or gorecki

gloomy nova
#

Ive queued enough dont worry

#

Plus theres no point in pushing rn due to mmr limitations

livid wasp
#

how does snupy have 4 set?

#

one from pve?

viscid remnant
#

you got a goathead

vestal citrus
#

2x catalyst, 1x guaranteed from achieve, 1x from any source

clear pulsar
#

Yeah he has 616 shoulder from pve vault

livid wasp
#

the feral 4-set bonus doesnt look that good anyway

#

is it even worth

#

sure its good if youre lucky with crits

#

our crit is like 11%

clear pulsar
#

You should have over 20% during tigers fury

#

Thats a pretty good chance to get you at least 1 proc per bite

dreamy violet
#

Imho it negates the Most recent Nerf to bite. Even with only 1 Stack - 7% - its Close prenerf.. plus the buff to RIP/rake

livid wasp
#

I guess..

#

oh well 2 weeks

tardy hare
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dont carea bout 4 set

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when feral is hella broken as is

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pumperrrr

tropic schooner
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Feral resto 2 worst specs in the game

viscid remnant
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feral is ssssss++++++++

tiny oar
viscid remnant
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and maxi is the disc/hpala version of zechey

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real

tropic schooner
viscid remnant
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i played with machtig and he did topdam every game with green weapon

tiny oar
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real

tardy hare
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Feral is bis, rdru is trash (with dk in 2s)

viscid remnant
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rdru ssss fr ongod

terse siren
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Hey guys what's a good talent build for feral in blitz?

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Can anyone share with me a good build? I'm new to the game and Druids in general

livid wasp
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david plays with machtig and ignores my whispers sadge

viscid remnant
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u whispered me 1 time

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and its impossible to play with u because u have braindamage

clear pulsar
viscid remnant
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This guy crashes out from 2s games

tardy hare
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feral broken blitz

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ez carry every game

livid wasp
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I dont

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we had nice mw aug feral sessions then you quit

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ferals gonna be hit pretty hard with a nerfbat some day I bet

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gonna be a lot of them in awc

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people are just lucky most ferals are garbage

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its not like dh being op where you can abuse it in day 1

viscid remnant
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idont remember this

livid wasp
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you were a fistweaver and we just mongoed people down

polar nymph
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It made a strong spec in to an oppressive spec.

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And whenever a spec not called MM or BM Hunter is oppressive Blizzard eventually crushes it in to the ground.

livid wasp
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and its shit this happened this early in the season, cant abuse it to glad

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will be nerfed for the end

polar nymph
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It's bad it happened at all

viscid remnant
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Nothing ever happens

tiny oar
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Nothing ever happens

sly marsh
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Nothing ever happens

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No more new X’s on the calendar

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I run all I can

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Marathon mannnnn

tiny oar
livid wasp
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oki

tiny oar
viscid remnant
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@tiny oar 100 vaxx turn in

tiny oar
modest dew
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hey all, im struggling in arenas as resto. i feel like i cant out heal any damage. does anyone have a preferred guide to watch

karmic flame
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Is there a difference between the staff or main hand offhand when choosing weapons? I see kind of an even split

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There are some tips as well in the pins @modest dew

viscid remnant
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clear pulsar
gloomy nova
modest dew
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i've played on and off, im 633 pvp ilvl. i justfeel like i cant top anyone off during burst windows.

gloomy nova
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2s? 3s? SS?

clear pulsar
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Do you have any vods of games you've played perchance?

gloomy nova
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2s and 3s u (should) expect ur team mate to "help" with certain burst windows to make sure they dont die and/or to not overlap.

SS is a shitstorm where most games everyone pop everything the first 10 seconds. If u are losing within a minute or two ur doing more than 1 thing wrong. Just pop everything early honestly

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Dont clone where if u get stopped ur fked. Meaning, have hots up. Play max range etc

eager yoke
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hah rdruid bottom pvp and pve

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But we strong make flower bloom

night coral
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What is this WA / addon for keeping track of Lifebloom next to raid frames?

sonic jetty