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clear pulsar
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Liveliness also double dips on WS vines

weary canyon
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oh wtf

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doesnt do that for us

tiny oar
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back to pres shuffle gl

clear pulsar
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Because it's not a 100% uptime buff then Circle affecting duration doesnt buff the damage of each proc

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But Liveliness doesnt affect duration, only time between ticks, and that affects Vine even tho Haste doesnt. It also affects Rake and Rip buffing the uptime

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So it has 33% higher uptime and 33% higher dmg per proc

weary canyon
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oo

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gotcha

clear pulsar
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Circle affects Vine too but it's a bad thing, not good

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Because it makes uptime lower for stuff like Root Network and Vigorous Creepers

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But it buffs uptime thru bleed tick rates so it evens out

weary canyon
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yeag

clear pulsar
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At least bursting growth does get net gains from circle

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This explains so much lmao @tepid spoke

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Liveliness double dips Thrash rn

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That's why it's omega damage

tepid spoke
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ok that explains it

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i was like how the fuck is thrash so good with liveliness and so bad with ms

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xd

clear pulsar
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Almost 80% buff

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Insane

tepid spoke
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lul

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mandatory talent

tiny oar
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100 solo shuffle rounds already is nuts

random patrol
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soloed tier 8 delved at 585 item level first try this shit is easy as chicken no deaths either

long pebble
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any good boomie guide?

tiny oar
long pebble
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things change in a couple days at this point. need some resource thats up to date

tiny oar
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doesnt exist really

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watch rudars streams

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thats ur guide

long pebble
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yy

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ty!

eager yoke
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I miss moonkin form 😦

vestal citrus
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update content constantly?

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instead of playing the game themselves or

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just go murlok

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if you need a build

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that's just ladder api stuff

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but ppl wont update written/video guides constantly

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not worth it in the wow content creation space

polar nymph
long pebble
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Nah. But some people are more active than others

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You have people who pump out content the moment theres some bluepost

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i dont expect nothing. just asked

vestal citrus
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yer moonkin not really like that tbh

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maybe supatease

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sorry got triggered a bit

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but yeah murlok or any ladder congregator with builds and shit is the best place for current info/data

polar nymph
clear pulsar
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My favorite type of content

polar nymph
random patrol
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@vestal citrus murloc pretty good I mean I made a meme aoe build for solo push last week from just looking at the top players at the time and then adjusting it for my playstyle

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mind you rudar prob still best to watch, supatease if people like weird rapping

tiny oar
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lost rating to an rdru

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unreal man

clear pulsar
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Get farmed

tiny oar
viscid remnant
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Absurd

tiny oar
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live die queue again

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back to rdruid queues

polar nymph
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Guardian queues

tiny oar
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god no

tiny oar
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mies gifs are so uncomfortable

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i can literally hear his voice saying everything in them

polar nymph
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You can see the video line thingy in that

shy snow
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I can hear the mies speaking italian to me

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the voices

random patrol
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karma

tiny oar
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HAHAHA

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i just want 1800 mog man

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i dont think it happens this week tho

random patrol
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could be worse could be brewmaster tank

tiny oar
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1800 shuffle is like top 200 for even pres rn

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kinda nuts

random patrol
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1600 puts me at 75th in the us as a chicken atm @tiny oar

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shuffle for chickens is a meme

indigo owl
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I hit 1629 as guardian tonight was pretty happy just to snag that token šŸ˜‚

tiny oar
random patrol
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first week is wierd

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I think shuffle is deflated and blitz is inflated this season as well

indigo owl
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Inflated for sure I think

tiny oar
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oh bg blitz gotcha

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i thought you meant shuffle and was about to be like ... wait a sec..

indigo owl
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Haha I don’t think I have it in me to do that to any fellow shufflers

tiny oar
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I DO

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queueing a tank shuffle right now

indigo owl
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šŸ˜‚

random patrol
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just q guardian aug disc

tiny oar
random patrol
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@tiny oar Ill start an eu account then

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weeeeeeeeee

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"Fluffmuffins" the dragon

polar nymph
tiny oar
random patrol
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I guess Ill turn starfall's icon red now

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since it helped me get solo done

velvet quest
tiny oar
polar nymph
tiny oar
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i suck at pres tho

polar nymph
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Yay!

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ty

tiny oar
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lobbies were getting rough

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maybe the most cursed image ive ever posted here

livid wasp
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shuffle before work surely this is a good idea

tiny oar
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i hope u get my tank lobby

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sry that was mean

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best of luck zechers

viscid remnant
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Porco

weary canyon
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meow

livid wasp
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feels like its healer difference 90% of shuffles

weary canyon
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maybe get into healing

viscid remnant
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Get into mike hawking

tiny oar
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bear time

weary canyon
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get into hawk tuah šŸ˜†

viscid remnant
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Absurd defiance

livid wasp
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freaking 3-3 games

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this game is so depressing

tiny oar
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could be worse zechey

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coulda been a tank game

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im actually winning some of these rounds

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this is SO FUCKED UP

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@random patrol heres ur guardian shuffle

green igloo
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do you guys even play shuffle as dps?

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could you tell me how do you play? my q as healer are 30 second and as dps 3 hours

livid wasp
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wow someone did lower dmg than me, a survival hunter

scarlet fjord
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Maybe I'll try some PvP this season, gotta get those sweet Honor skins

livid wasp
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why are they buffing warlocks

tiny oar
tiny oar
livid wasp
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my queue is 5-10 min

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I feel like im using my defensives wrong or healers arent healing me sometiems when I almost die when nobody is bursting and healer is free healing

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maybe its worth to just pop all the shit early in shuffle

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@unkempt wind how come you avoid saber jaws and pick apex in ST?

livid wasp
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a lot of people not picking saber jaws guess its bad now

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idk even

clear pulsar
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Apex bites arent buffed by saber jaws

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So you dont need it to go apex

unkempt wind
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well saber jaws is nerfed by half in pvp now so its only a 20% damage increase on bite for the cost of 2 talent points

livid wasp
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didnt know that should read more

unkempt wind
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if u get 1 apex proc its like the same as buffing bite by 100% kinda

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even with bleeding only 1 target i feel like apex proc chance pretty decent

livid wasp
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gotta try it I guess

unkempt wind
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also theres just so many benefits you get any time u press bite, so any free bite is good

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u get more predatory swiftness procs, u get more value from bursting growth

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more sabertooth uptime

viscid remnant
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you should try the tiger talent

unkempt wind
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What talent

haughty nova
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why some people have multiple toons of the same class?

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pve I get it for the vault rng but now that there's no vault in pvp isn't that pointless

unkempt wind
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To leapfrog so you can never go down in rating

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If you have 2 warriors 1 is 1800 the other is 1750, you play the 1750 warrior in a shuff for example and end up being 1830 on that one, now you play the 1800 warrior so even if you lose you’ll still have the 1830 warrior. And you just always play the character that’s lower rated so you have 0 risk of losing your peak rating

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Also some people like to play their main with their ā€œserious teamā€ while playing an alt of the same class less seriously with other people etc

weary canyon
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ribbit

haughty nova
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ah yeah, having a second to play with other people makes sense. being precious about the rating just sounds lame, specially if it's not end of season.

livid wasp
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adaptive swarm not that good then?

unkempt wind
unkempt wind
livid wasp
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or would you go for it if you could

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or are you

unkempt wind
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I think it’s worth playing in every build

livid wasp
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idk these talent things on mobile are shit

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oh okay nvm you can go to it straight from frantic momentum

unkempt wind
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the only time swarm isn’t that good is for massive aoe maybe like in blitz but feral frenzy + adaptive swarm together just too good I think

livid wasp
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so 0 points in CI

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gotta drop saber jaws and try that when im home

unkempt wind
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Ya I haven’t been playing any points in CI, I think it lost value ever since they made it so you cant have tigers fury up permanently anymore

livid wasp
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I saw snupy taking 1 CI and no apex but dunno if thats any good

unkempt wind
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the only time I play CI is when I play feral/sp 2s and I want a really bursty opener I play double CI/badge

livid wasp
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I c

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but guess apex is a good all rounder

unkempt wind
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Or any double dps comp in general where you play very hit and run

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yea apex just feels best over a longer period of time

livid wasp
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do you multidot to make it proc more?

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usually

unkempt wind
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kinda just depends on the matchup

livid wasp
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ofc with 2 casters wouldnt be as easy

unkempt wind
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Like if ur playing jungle and fighting a warlock/melee team for example

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Usually feels best to just tunnel the lock all game

livid wasp
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true

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1 more question

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why speed blasphemite and not precog?

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precog would feel so good so often

unkempt wind
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I am playing precog now

livid wasp
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I think we will be switching between the two at some point

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oh okay

unkempt wind
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I was playing the speed for fun cause I thought it’d be fun in blitz and stuff

livid wasp
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not that fun trying to clone

unkempt wind
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But there were times I really got fucked by not being precog so I had to switch

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I think speed is actually maybe bis for blitz

livid wasp
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yeah esp for fc

unkempt wind
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but I play a lot more arena than bgs

livid wasp
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anyway thanks ill break 1.8k with apex soon hopefully

unkempt wind
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Even in arena the speed gem felt nice in 2s like if u face mm hunter it feels like it def helps with uptime

livid wasp
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yeah definitely

unkempt wind
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Or for kiting warriors/windwalkers with tireless pursuit it feels insane

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but 1 precog can just win a game

livid wasp
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true

fading coral
tiny oar
crystal roost
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anyone got resto druids tips for solo shuffle? i just fall over :/ and get flamed to oblivion

clear fox
silent aspen
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Anyone got some 3's tips?

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Maintain rake on all targets? (main target?) prioritise bites?

crystal roost
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i am very pleb to pvp havent played it in ages but i feel like i struggle more than i did early df

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either i fall over, or i cant keep up the bursted ally

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im just sad cuz people really pile on me cuz we lose :/

green igloo
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rdruid was busted in df

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and undertuned now

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he is quite decent in 2v, but bad in 3v

crystal roost
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think ill just gather honor and send to a new healer ><

livid wasp
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you should play 2s first to get familiar with it

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people will hate you in shuffle for the 3-3s

mental portal
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and you will never climb with the 3-3's

silent aspen
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What's a good Feral streamer?

viscid remnant
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axtin

upper sable
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snupy actually streams

livid wasp
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snupy is the only one I would call a streamer

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rest just stream games for the luls

polar nymph
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I look forward to the seasonal "is convoke good now?" videos from Snupy

stray sigil
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bro his "ranged feral" video

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had me want to commit sepuku

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im not gonna lie

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dude specd into moonfire and called it ranged feral

toxic briar
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Does anyone play Guardian Druid in PvP or not really?

polar nymph
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Don't forget every Moonfire modifier too

polar nymph
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Oh and @tiny oar šŸ˜›

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Whenever Voodooray says to

stray sigil
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guy was like purposefully

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not pressing rake

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for so long ion that video

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and just reapplying moonfire

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MOONFIRE DMG WAT???

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nice guy but jesus

polar nymph
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I do like that Moonfire damage isn't complete trash this xpac but yeah

stray sigil
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yeah but like ud still prio rake over moonfire any time lmfao

polar nymph
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Oh definitely

stray sigil
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not particuarly close either

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i was getting tilted watching the vid

polar nymph
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Mostly nice because of how easy it is to keep up

stray sigil
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with the 3yrd thing gone its nice to have a ranged gen

polar nymph
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And to keep healers in combat if they try and drink

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Are you currently subbed Fuji?

viscid remnant
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feji lad

polar nymph
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Davider lad

viscid remnant
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I watched a few videos of british people talking and now i cant stop saying lad

stray sigil
polar nymph
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To my ass

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No, the game

stray sigil
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ye

polar nymph
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Nice

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Good to see Axtin's teacher back in action

viscid remnant
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glaze is crazy

unkempt wind
viscid remnant
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thats australian lad

haughty compass
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lol oh right

polar nymph
viscid remnant
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u know what i mean

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simmer down

polar nymph
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This is going straight to the prime minister

viscid remnant
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u come from a land down under

polar nymph
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Indeed

stray sigil
haughty compass
viscid remnant
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dud i saw him yestyerday

stray sigil
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fucking marv streams like once a month

tiny oar
stray sigil
late wraith
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Axtin saying everyone but himself lol

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We need to advertise for him

safe heart
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I don't blame him for not wanting to stream, ppl just spam the same 3 questions for the entire stream

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Hows feral feel this patch

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Are we playing druid of the cloggs or wildflower

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What macros do you use

polar nymph
viscid remnant
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Maybe he should do like a tldr command

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A lot of streamers do this

safe heart
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Viewers probably aren't capable of that

late wraith
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people don't even know how to check the pins

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but the streamer can like hit a button i think

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or it responds to certain prompts or whatever

viscid remnant
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prettysure u can make nightbot post stuff based on what is written in chat

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like theres a streamer if u type d4 in chat nightbot says bad

late wraith
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ye

velvet quest
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Streamers will type an answer in their stream title and viewers will ask the same question the title answered over and over and over there’s no hope

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Or they’ll put a Spotify overlay to show what song is playing and people ask what song is this or try !song !playlist

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Same chatters probably think weakauras are bad cause there’s too much information on the screen

late wraith
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i just think axtin deserves followers that's all everyone calm down

neat talon
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is there something like an addon /wa compendium here for pvp? looking atm something to see if someone is capturing a base in blitz

livid wasp
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axtin already pulls like 100 viewers when hes streaming

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1/3 of snupys viewers with no effort

safe heart
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I'm not a big twitch watcher but if axtin and snupy are both on, snupy doesn't have a shot

unkempt wind
velvet quest
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That’s cause you’re a morning EU streamer

safe heart
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I feel like the clickbaity youtuber vibe is not it

unkempt wind
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im barely a streamer, ima wow player that streams sometimes

safe heart
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I never murlok snupy, just axtin and fuji

velvet quest
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Never seen fuji on murlok

safe heart
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Murlok = wow version of fb stalking

velvet quest
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Whenever I watch an axtin stream it’s when I was about to go to bed but his stream is so chill and he’s making cool plays so I end up watching for 3 hours

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I feel like snupy caters to a different type of viewer

safe heart
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He does
He's fishing for the 1800 moggers

unkempt wind
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Well streaming is his career so he has to try to make his stream more mass appealing

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And same with his YouTube

safe heart
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That must be why he keeps trying to make convoke work

haughty compass
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Snupy is a chill young lad

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(Now I’m saying lad @viscid remnant )

viscid remnant
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its an addicting word

stray sigil
clear pulsar
safe heart
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WOW ARMORY

stray sigil
random patrol
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"fills out the vault for 3k gold a week despite having millions"

neat talon
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if you only could choose between troll and zandalari troll as a healer which would you prefer?

random patrol
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zandalari

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cause gonk

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speed ftw

neat talon
reef siren
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are there any talents for guardian for bg:s?

clear pulsar
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The ones that swap you to a dps spec

red scarab
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Got the tier helmet for resto druid in vault...Is the secondary stat trade off worth it for having 4 piece this week?

clear pulsar
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Yes

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But can you have 4 piece this week tho

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Catalyst is every 2 weeks

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If it's honor to conquest ilvl you wear the item regardless

clear pulsar
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Guardian is just trash

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It's not about being a tank

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It's awful

fervent folio
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Guardian is the best

red scarab
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oh I didnt know catalyst was every 2, dang

upper sable
fervent folio
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I am not on pc

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But I copied from rank 1 blitz guardian Druid

fervent folio
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But they really need to fix the ranking system of blitz or do smth

fervent folio
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Idk if it, but it took me so long to reach it, being placed against lower mmr people and if you lose minimum -15, and if you win 5+.

vestal citrus
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Do more to win

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Win more

fervent folio
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Idk how it will be after 1800 though seriously I’m scared

vestal citrus
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Lots of people are 2400+

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if you win more often your mmr climbs and you lose less when losing

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and gain more when wenning

fervent folio
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It’s my first time reaching 1800 and plus it’s on tank

fervent folio
vestal citrus
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no

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i dnt at all

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not a single good player in this game will agree with that statement

fervent folio
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So you say a good player can solo win?

fervent folio
vestal citrus
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Everyone contributes a lot

fervent folio
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Would it be possible to get that score as a tank?

vestal citrus
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Yes

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Tanks are pivotal

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You are the most important player on flag maps

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most tank players are shit

fervent folio
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Right will keep grinding then

vestal citrus
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good players will take over games

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be unkillable, do lots of damage, peel/cc a lot etc

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all things that matter a lot

fervent folio
vestal citrus
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I dont play tank

fervent folio
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I try to cap and join team fights, cyclone healers, root and stuff

vestal citrus
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wouldn't know what to say

bronze coyote
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so whats the dragon spittle water this expansion?

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or whatever water is best

safe heart
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Idk why I assumed he got 1800 as bear in shuffle

stray sigil
untold spade
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So I accepted the conq weapon quest with Resto spec. So it will drop an intellect weapon when I complete it. But I want it to be an Agility weapon. Am I able to still change it or am I fucked?

clear pulsar
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It changes to whatever you are when you relog

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On the quest log

untold spade
clear fox
clear pulsar
stray sigil
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so u have to log off to the right spec log back in ?

clear pulsar
stray sigil
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@tepid spoke

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he said it

clear pulsar
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I relogged mid delve just for you

stray sigil
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now try it on a dk

clear pulsar
stray sigil
tropic schooner
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especially as a bear

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just defend bases

livid wasp
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what does equip: +2 sparkle mean?

late wraith
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Griftah’s something something

livid wasp
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oh

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so its nothing

rancid laurel
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does ursul vortex work with @target?

late wraith
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it’s the only way to take off an embellishment if you want to put an embellishment on another item. The sparkle is just for flavor

sly marsh
tropic schooner
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its + sparkle

tropic schooner
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you can do mouseovers

strong locust
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So far those boomy buffs haven't made me feel a bit of difference in Shuffle

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I still do negative single target 😦

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and die in half a second

livid wasp
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didnt know boomies exist in shuffle

strong locust
livid wasp
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@safe heart im undefeated with 11 wins in 3s now, feral deva broken

safe heart
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LETS GO

livid wasp
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faced some complete aids 2k mmr aff lock spriest rdruid and I just jumped around focusing on lock no idea what to do against that comp and won

random patrol
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I used starfall for solo shuffle push

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did double the dam of everyone else

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using kotg and whatever the other incarn talent is called

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(the one opposite of orbital strike)

lofty pike
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anyone else feeling like absolute crap with resto druid this patch?

fading coral
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just wish we didn't have such mana issues

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other then that it's fine imo

lofty pike
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the mana is rough

clear pulsar
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I simply play shuffle

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Mana nonissue

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Fuck 3v3

desert delta
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hows feral in pvp atm

safe heart
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Yoo good question

haughty compass
safe heart
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Every lobby I'm in with an rdruid we basically oom him

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Usually round ends at the same time for better or worse but we get his whole mana bar for free

regal cipher
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for free piece we go for chest at 1600?

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feral?

clear pulsar
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I havent lost a round to oom this season

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Done over 120M healing a few rounds

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Not oom

worthy belfry
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just lost 180 rating because of the realm crashes

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nice

clear pulsar
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Thats tough

tiny oar
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unlucky im sorry droodic

gloomy nova
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If a healer goes oom in shuff it usually means dps are dogshit being carried by healer

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(Any healer)

random patrol
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bring back mana burn

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slash s

tiny oar
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bro

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do not remind me of mana burn dh ever again

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i thought i seared it from my memory forevermore

random patrol
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dont forget drain mana for warlock

random patrol
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time to finish leveling the dk

umbral glade
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as boomkin, should i stop at 20% haste / vers and go mastery / crit or keep stacking haste / vers?

strong locust
umbral glade
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what did I just read

clear pulsar
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You never go for crit outside of tier

umbral glade
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and doesnt vers just act as mastery but better?

clear pulsar
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I dont think there's some hard cutoff at 20% haste

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But mastery is a great dmg stat

umbral glade
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I mean, I havent reached any sort of penalty on haste or vers yet

clear pulsar
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Haste and vers have non-damage benfits and you prob want them

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Just stick to haste vers on the pieces that arent tier and youll be ok

umbral glade
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kk ty

vestal citrus
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bro

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this is demonic

tiny oar
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do these ppl just log in and queue shuffle for 16h a day

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s2g bro

random patrol
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@tiny oar why not

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q all the shuffle

brazen thunder
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Shuffle is hell bro

tiny oar
safe heart
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I'll queue like 5 a day at most if I'm wfh
Usually 0-1 before I do something else

brazen thunder
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Grats

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Im 109-94 1741 last 3 shuffles 3-3 such a waste of time sometimes

random patrol
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@tiny oar keep going you ursine terror

viscid remnant
tiny oar
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I will pursue my joy against all odds no matter what the haters say

viscid remnant
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Dude i hate when

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Its early season

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And ppl talk about rank spot

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Like it matters

viscid remnant
tiny oar
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let ppl yap blah blah blah

lofty pike
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I'm hearing about 4-5 min dps queues... am I just doing it wrong?

viscid remnant
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Unlucky lad

viscid remnant
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Average wow player intelligence

finite bay
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Man, what is going on with Boomy in SS? Just feels so bad. Just feels like I do no damage

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Looks like peopel are playing a grove keeper/ starfall build? anyone have any videos they can recommend?

lofty pike
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do I reque or is that just going to make it worse

viscid remnant
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Just wait brah

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Its hitting for sure

clear pulsar
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W're so back

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565k starfire, 470k starsurge

tiny oar
random patrol
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"I died to starsurge" "from a boomy?" no a tree

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lol

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#nerflake

viscid remnant
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Lets go lad

tardy hare
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Man queueing at 6:40

viscid remnant
#

Big boomer

clear pulsar
#

Yeah keeper is a damage choice in pvp

#

It's all flipped

tiny oar
#

on g

clear pulsar
#

You will be the gross dragon abusing your estranged druid family

tiny oar
#

IM ALLOWED TO FARM TRANSMOG OKIE FUCK

viscid remnant
#

Simmer down lad

clear pulsar
#

And I'm allowed to be sad and disappointed

#

This is a banger

#

True? @viscid remnant

viscid remnant
#

No idea what that is

#

Iam listeninf

#

If its bad i root u out

#

Okay okay

#

For a face song its pretty good so far

#

Okay oookay

tiny oar
tiny oar
viscid remnant
#

Las

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Its not

#

The same feeling

rose sequoia
#

does Honor reset between every season ?or never

random patrol
#

between expacs yes

#

between seasons no

viscid remnant
#

Bigtrye

#

True

rose sequoia
#

ah

#

ok ty

clear pulsar
rose sequoia
#

can rogues dispel your buffs? like heals
i know they have shiv but i think tat's enrage dispel

viscid remnant
#

Mf the average song you link is like a taylor swift song and she sounds like shes going to cry

#

@clear pulsar

velvet quest
#

@unkempt wind it was a pleasure chasing after an evoker with u through the water

unkempt wind
#

that class is so fuckin cooked

#

i couldnt do anything lol

velvet quest
#

i had a game against udk dev pres the other day it ruined my entire night

late wraith
#

i think we got phased

#

from where you were

velvet quest
unkempt wind
#

wtf is this

velvet quest
#

wait stop dont make fun of my ui

viscid remnant
#

CRACK

late wraith
#

GET HIS ASS

unkempt wind
#

lol its like stacked up or something

velvet quest
#

one of them is ur cast and the other is my debuff that im applying

unkempt wind
#

hurts my brain

velvet quest
#

but i havent gone through and blacklisted all the new debuffs for this expansion yet

#

there i fixed it using my photoshop skills

unkempt wind
#

insane

#

it actually gave me ptsd of this

viscid remnant
#

My ice

late wraith
#

looool

velvet quest
#

went from pog cat to sad cat in 5 minutes flat

viscid remnant
#

Ugot cooked lad

tiny oar
#

lmaooooo

velvet quest
#

the plater option to disable spell icon just doesnt do anything so im stuck with it looking like that unless i try deleting mods or something

unkempt wind
#

its not that bad

velvet quest
#

nope its bad my night is ruined

tiny oar
velvet quest
#

thanks lake i decided cast bars are a crutch and all they bring is negative energy, i cant miss kicks if i dont see them casting so i will just delete my cast bar and fix the problem

viscid remnant
#

Ive decided breathing is a crutch so im going to stop that

random patrol
#

could of been that one guy that was almost 2100 and then lost 200 points when the servers crashed then had a bad lobby after that

tiny oar
#

well wait hold on guys..

velvet quest
#

u cant change ur mind

viscid remnant
#

Yoshi city we burn it down

tiny oar
unkempt wind
#

who wants to q 2s with my windwalker

#

i need conq

tiny oar
#

would if i was lvl 80 on NA sry sweetie

clear pulsar
#

Yeah me neither

velvet quest
#

hey face wanna q 2s with my windwalker instead?

clear pulsar
viscid remnant
#

R1 guy asking for qs here

viscid remnant
rustic heath
#

How would a perfect opener look like if using lions strength instead of BT? Im kinda pleb and think my focus is worth more elsewere than loosing BT uptime

unkempt wind
#

kinda depends what kind of opener you are going for

#

are you going for a triple rake stun kill someone in the first 7 seconds of the game opener or playing for the long game opener

velvet quest
viscid remnant
#

American

tiny oar
rustic heath
unkempt wind
#

are you playing incarn

rustic heath
#

Think Iam gonna do that yeah, havent really started arena yet, just tried a few diffrent builds in BGs so far

unkempt wind
#

prowl → (incarn + tiger's fury) → rake → feral frenzy → adaptive swarm → bite → (prowl + rake) → bite → (shadowmeld + rake) → bite

#

practice that

#

youll stun someone for 7 seconds and get feral frenzy/swarm/3 bites in that

#

unless they're orc

#

also make sure you are playing this talent

rustic heath
#

@unkempt wind thank you!

unkempt wind
rustic heath
#

Also, there is no point speccing into moonfire in cat form if using Lions build instead of BT right? Since moonfire is more of a BT starter anyway?

clear pulsar
#

Moonfire is more of an insane button to have when you arent in melee but still can build cps

viscid remnant
#

Real lad

rustic heath
#

Aah so i should still spec it and use it for that occasion?

velvet quest
#

i think AS is dynamic and itll be on the target by the time your big ff ticks actually happen maybe?

calm lion
#

If you donā€˜t lose a buffed FF tick then it should be fine to apply it afterwards. It is dynamic.

livid wasp
random patrol
#

"specs into touch the cosmos in single target build cause might as wel double down on all the surges"

visual ocean
#

guys, do you know if its possible to buy the set Draconic Gladiator's Leather for mark of honor or those are not added yet?

plain garden
#

Hi, anyone know if elemental focusing lens embelish works on details ? Never seen it on my damage

plain garden
#

181 main stats & 2% speed only @velvet quest

clear pulsar
#

So you AS after to make sure you get all 5

clear pulsar
lofty pike
#

Feral is feeling good in ss

livid wasp
#

does it

velvet quest
plain garden
velvet quest
#

yeah any of them will allow u to proc lens. i think the school of magic it does is based on what gems ur wearing but it prob doesnt matter a whole lot

unkempt wind
#

are you asking that because of prowl and shadowmeld being in there? those are there because that's the only way for rake to become a stun. so before you open on someone you should be in prowl for the first rake stun, and since you have incarn up, you can press prowl again while in combat for the 2nd rake stun, and the 3rd rake stun comes from pressing shadowmeld then rake immediately after

lofty pike
#

I have to learn how to bounce around better on Feral, especially when a DK is all my ass just training me

velvet quest
#

I don’t follow my own advice but honestly maybe find a friend who can log onto a dk and only spam chains of ice on you for 10 minutes as you practice running in circles around him, I feel like if you ever have to think about how you want to shift you’re already falling a global behind

lofty pike
#

When shifting to get away do you swap back and forth between bear and cat or just cancel form back into cat?

unkempt wind
unkempt wind
chilly flume
#

hey guys I’m recently returning to pvp scene as feral, havent played much pvp since BfA launch. We’re queing with a frost mage friend. are there any youtubers or gudies I can check for 2 dps comps like ours? We’re having a hard time into dps + healer comps especially disc priests. Any tips/strategies to go for healer comps would be appeciated ty in advance ā¤ļøā€šŸ”„

rustic heath
#

I seem to get a gcd when swapping out from cat if i dont go into bear, am i doing something wrong? Im used to power shifting cat to cat for root break šŸ˜‚

lofty pike
lofty pike
#

what's everyone using for their cat/bear/travel bindings? I had Ctrl+1/2/3 before but that felt sluggish

vestal citrus
#

shift r, r, alt =

lofty pike
#

thanks, is this the normal macro people use?
#showtooltip
/cast Cat Form
/cancelform

tardy hare
tardy hare
vestal citrus
#

it'll pull u out of it

#

but u can make a macro that lets u spam it

tardy hare
#

Some use /cast !cat form

lofty pike
#

I spam it, sometimes I end up in human form like an idiot

tardy hare
#

So it only puts you into cat but not out

tardy hare
vestal citrus
#

yea

#

spam macro to go in

#

and then use cancelform or another form bind to get out

#

is bis

rustic heath
#

Can also add [noform] x modifier to attacks, like i have it on a prowl/ rake button so if i spam it i go into cat, prowl, and rake at same button

#

So it only casts x form if your not already in it

#

Same for my meld, it goes meld > prowl > rake

#

And i used to have the same for bear form and bash, but on retail u dont need to swap for bash, so still trying to figure where to put bear

lofty pike
#

I ended up going with this:
/cancelaura
/cast [stance:2] !Travel Form; Cat Form

seems to be good for getting out of roots and crap

safe heart
#

I use q e f

livid wasp
#

mouse side button cat, ctrl plus mouse side button bear, shift plus mouse side button travel

lofty pike
#

nice, I just swapped to using a side mouse button for swapping between cat/travel and capslock for bear

fading coral
#

Resto druids, did anyone try a nourish/cd reduction build to see how it felt like ?

#

With double bloom/rejuv

uneven bronze
#

and the embellishment is good. Always does like 200-500k dmg within a fight, basically another dmg source equal to corruption/agony

compact laurel
#

What classes/comps are good with Rdru in 3s?

safe heart
#

Splay
Ret war

#

Probably most comps tbh
Healers aren't as tied to the comp as they used to be

lofty pike
safe heart
#

Are you like 2.4k

#

Oh

#

My queues are like that even at 1600

lofty pike
#

im like 1300 šŸ˜›

safe heart
#

Wowza

#

What mmr

fading coral
compact laurel
#

Ty ā¤ļø

fading coral
#

Only issue I have with rdruid so far is mana management

lofty pike
#

Feral Druids: what embellishment are you guys rocking?

uneven bronze
#

Do the pacts from severed threads work in PvP?!

fading coral
#

Nobody ooms unless i get 2 good drinks and it doesn't make it even

worthy belfry
#

hey guys , i have two questions for feral:

if we have 5 cp and no BT, should we just spend on rip/bite or use 1 more generator to proc bt first ?

and :
if we get a clearcasting proc do we ever use it on shred if we have stacks of brutal slash, since BS does more dmg? I'm guessing only for BT but just checking

sly marsh
#

def worth proccing bloodtalons imo

livid wasp
#

like if I have 5 cp and 0 streak im just ripping

#

and updating it with bt rip soon

#

but if its just 1 more then should just proc it

quiet atlas
#

Boomy booming after buffs?

stray sigil
wary stirrup
#

@livid wasp

#

how is bgb going?

#

did you manage to climb out of 1300 yet?

polar nymph
#
  1. when you go to press Brutal Slash there is a 99% chance Clearcasting will proc as you go to press it.
sly marsh
#

^ real

tiny oar
#

^ real

sly marsh
#

v real

sly vector
#

I find resto 0 fun atm there is just perma pressure everywhere in shuffle and players are just zug zuging

#

I wana die

#

2s almost 1.8k shuffle 1.1

#

LOL

#

Every fucking round one braindead player who does nothing except look for oppertunities to LoS me

livid wasp
#

you watch for clearcasting procs?

bronze coyote
#

does anyone know how to write a macro that i can use on targets in bgs, and arena target in arenas. pic related does NOT work cus ranked bgs assign arena target 12345678

#

like as soon as arena target 2 is in range in the bg, im randomly cloning the flag carrier

tropic schooner
bronze coyote
#

it does

#

if ur near

#

arena target

#

u target that person

#

trust me

tropic schooner
#

with a /target arena2 macro?

#

and why only if near

bronze coyote
#

yes

tropic schooner
#

I dont trust you

bronze coyote
#

ok

#

if u dont

tropic schooner
#

so then that macro must work

bronze coyote
#

knwo anything dont explain

#

my man

#

read my macro again

tropic schooner
#

yes

bronze coyote
#

it has a dual purpose

#

it targets my target

#

if theres no arena target

tropic schooner
#

I know

bronze coyote
#

ok whatever u dont know i was asking someone who knew

tropic schooner
#

so arena 2 doesnt exist

bronze coyote
#

no

#

when theyre nearby

#

in the bg

#

it targets them

#

thats what im saying

#

thats the problem

#

regardless of my target

#

cus arena target exists in bgs

tropic schooner
#

yes usually its the fcs

#

/orb carries

bronze coyote
#

2 seconds ago u said it didnt exist

tropic schooner
#

nope

bronze coyote
#

'????

tropic schooner
#

I said 1-8 doesnt exist

bronze coyote
#

why dlo i bother

tropic schooner
#

correct

#

1-4 does depending on the bg

#

ubt has nothing to do with what you wrote

bronze coyote
#

okay bro like

#

i just want to make am acro

#

that i can use in arenas

#

and in bgs

#

im not trying to get into an argument whether arenatarget exists in bg cus i know it does

tropic schooner
#

what do you want the macro to do

bronze coyote
#

i wanna press the same button in arena for awrena target

#

that i press in bgs to target clone

#

cus that works in the world

tropic schooner
#

dont think thats possible

bronze coyote
#

it just doesnt in ranked bgs

#

sad

tropic schooner
#

or actually check about raid check

#

that might work

bronze coyote
tropic schooner
#

should work

bronze coyote
#

oh ill try that thank u

#

y thats smart that should work ill try

polar nymph
bronze coyote
#

wait

#

it has to be negative nvm

#

i think i should use [party] then cus i need it to do arena target only in arenas which would count as party groups?

#

then in bgs / open world it would ignore that part and just [@target]?

#

idk if arenas counts as [party]

#

group:party

#

gonna join a skirmish to try it out

safe heart
#

If you put 2 speakers next to each other
1 is 500 decibels
1 is 300 decibels
That is 800 decibels worth of sound

sly vector
#

After my third shuffle session, which ended early, I’m really looking for some genuine advice and tips. I’m playing Restoration, but honestly, I don't care much about the spec because nothing feels right so far. I’ve watched all of MMARKER’s guides and Arena Junkie videos about druids, but they haven’t seemed to help.

In Dragonflight Season 1, I hit 1.8k rating, but now I can't even break past 1.2k. Every lobby feels the same: either I don’t heal enough, I go oom too fast, or someone runs out into the open and I have to follow them, only to get CC’d while my HoTs get purged. By the time I can refresh them, that player’s already dead.

I feel like I should have the basics down by now, but I honestly don’t know what I’m doing wrong. I literally go 3-3 in almost every lobby and can’t seem to climb. The frustrating part is that I’ve played way more Druid than anything else, but I recently started playing Disc Priest, and I’m already at 1.5k with a 60% win rate. I hate to admit it, but is Restoration just that bad for shuffle? It feels like I’m constantly fighting uphill, and I’m wondering if it's even viable in this meta.

safe heart
#

Markers plays like a dps

#

He does meme dps shit
Watch lontar or something

sly vector
#

I cant do this some lobbies it works great and others I just straight up cant dps

bronze coyote
#

well disc is very fotm rn so

#

but u can climb

#

anyway i think i fixed the macro

late wraith
bronze coyote
#

it didnt break in arena, now ive to actually see if it works in bgs

#

lmao

safe heart
#

I will vod review your resto games

late wraith
#

namely face or ben

#

enji.

sly vector
#

I can start stream right now and you all can laugh at me

late wraith
#

no one would laugh at you

#

and if they do that's shit, you're trying to learn

safe heart
late wraith
#

no i'm telling you to quit it

#

i'm saying enji. stop.

safe heart
#

What the absolute cluck

late wraith
#

hahahha

safe heart
#

Telling me to quit rdruid is sus

late wraith
#

DID YOU EVER START PLAYING RDRUID?

#

ENJIMAN?

safe heart
#

Ofc not why would I ??

late wraith
velvet quest
safe heart
#

But it's just rude to tell me to quit before I even try

velvet quest
#

enji play rdruid so u can do 3s with druwude and bigdingus its new godcomp

late wraith
#

@clear pulsar is good at vod review he gives good actionable feedback

safe heart
#

I'm gunna name my rdruid Aretyping

#

So when we queue

#

It says

#

Mayo
Beavs
Aretyping

#

Bis ?

late wraith
#

bis

velvet quest
#

enji how are ur feral games going have u found people to jungle with?

safe heart
#

I had a hunter priest add me but I haven't rly logged on since

#

I'm like 55% ish wr I'm 3s rn

#

So doing okay

#

I am humbled

late wraith
#

that's a fine winrate?

#

imagine caring about winrate

#

mine is trashed most seasons cause i run my little clown characters with all sorts of trash comps and sometimes i simply play like piss

safe heart
#

Yeah I'm not upset rly
I always have high hopes for myself but end of the day anything above 50% is good

late wraith
#

also i'm so fuckin bad at math that sometimes i go "my winrate is sub 40" and angry and mayo have to tell me to try it again with a calculator looool

velvet quest
#

I had a chance to boost my 2s win rate last night. Axtin asked in here if anyone wanted to 2s with his monk and we coulda been double ww it would be so blessed but I got scared cause I didn’t want him to see my gameplay I already ruined his eyes with my ui

safe heart
#

Beavs probably has 90% wr in friendship

late wraith
#

you should have boosted it so we could tank it today

safe heart
#

Fr

#

I can't legally ask anyone for help because I always troll ppl who ask for help here

velvet quest
#

I woulda been too nervous I’d forget to crackling jade lightning the same target as him

safe heart
#

It is what it is

late wraith
#

i think we should do double feral guardian

safe heart
#

Double ww is based

velvet quest
#

You can ask for help enji you won’t get trolled

late wraith
#

2 cats and a bear like what's stronger than that?

#

think about if you saw that irl?

safe heart
#

Literally nothing

#

Maybe 3 bears?

late wraith
#

actually maybe 3 bears is stronger

#

YEAH

#

but you can't queue that so hear me out

#

you queue as feral. but you also are a bear

safe heart
#

You can't queue 3 bears ?

late wraith
#

no

#

it's like trying to queue multi healer

velvet quest
safe heart
late wraith
#

blizzard doesn't like when we have fun and be clowns

sly vector
#

Ok so if anyone could watch me play a few rounds and give some tips I can link my stream per pm, much appreciated.

safe heart
#

Let's do whatever this is describing

sly vector
#

plz I need help this cant continue I gotta do something super wrong

past fossil
#

What’s the trick to getting away from a death knight as bear, like it literally feels like he’s pulling me back more than I can more forward

#

Between Abom limb(?) two grips and crazy slows it’s ridiculous

upper sable
#

tireless pursuit helps

safe heart
#

Try not to use wc before a grip

#

Force the grip then wc

late wraith
# past fossil What’s the trick to getting away from a death knight as bear, like it literally ...

on boomy i try to wild charge the first grip before he can get the blind or stun off. as bear you can do a cancel form-wild charge macro that you have set to target a healer or some other ranged player on your team and you basically hit that as soon as they grip you in and get out of there. then stampeding roar immediately and make even more distance. i know it feels like they can get you from anywhere but there's a range on it and you can los it obviously.
also shift out of bear then back in to drop the slow. fluid form helps with this.

safe heart
#

And try to wc to corners

late wraith
#

also roots/typhoon/ursols all help give you space. i know it feels like they can always catch but if you remember to swap forms to drop the slows and avoid that initial blind/stun they usually hit you with on the first grip, you'll be ahead. plus yeah any speed talents also help

past fossil
#

Okay. Just feels awful, I’m not a pvper but I’m trying to get my elite set and I feel like as soon as I drop form to drop the slows I’m gonna melt. Against a solo dk it’s fine but these people are like flies to honey dude

late wraith
#

you won't melt don't worry because you're going right back into bear

#

you will melt if you let him keep hitting you

#

the real danger of it is he gets the stun off when you're in elf but you bark it then right into that wild charge to healer/stampedeing roar and then maybe a frenzied if you need to while you're kiting

past fossil
#

I’ve been using stag wc but human wc is better?

late wraith
#

it kinda depends i use them both but if my healer is in range and he's near a pillar, i use that one

#

cause i can los the guy immediately

past fossil
#

Okay, thank you for advice. Ctf maps are my least favorite because of that kind of stuff but I’ll try to work on that to improve

late wraith
#

it takes a while to get used to doing the form swaps and using wild charge and stuff. to start even just try to remember to swap in and out to break the slow then stampeding roar, even that should be enough to help it feel a little less overwhelming.

#

but they are simply overwhelming lol so don't beat yourself up if it's still not working out for you

clear pulsar
velvet quest
#

imagine a r1 player calling me a goober i might simply perish

clear pulsar
#

I get omega performance anxiety

#

In all aspects of life

late wraith
#

i'm not a coward i would have done it

#

i would have died in the opener

#

like a hero

sly vector
#

gameplay starts at 4:50

strong locust
#

If I crafted PVP Staff I can't do anything to use that for Feral right?

clear pulsar
#

Right

tropic schooner
#

well you could use it but it would be terrible

tropic schooner
#

but holy hell you are jumping and walking a lot

#

also like to hug enemy melees

sly vector
#

Yea I used standard settingsd and that turned out like ass

gloomy nova
#

Disc is fine, no tuning was needed.

desert delta
livid wasp
#

everyone calling feral so op

#

cant wait to queue shuffle and be unable to push and be super mad at myself

gloomy nova
desert delta
#

I thought the feral was u pepekarp

gloomy nova
#

Nah im resto but im not in the picture coz im irrelevant lol

clear pulsar
#

Are you playing WS?

#

It's a bit of a tough choice for me cuz WS feels much better healing hard ST pressure

#

But with kotg dumping a starsurge into insta starfire adds a lot

gloomy nova
#

I havent even tried WS but i doubt its viable in 3s and SS

clear pulsar
#

Yeah I hate it when I heal people for 40% more

#

Must not be viable

gloomy nova
#

Like I said I havent tried it, i just couldnt imagine it offered more healing?

clear pulsar
clear pulsar
#

People in pve channel also ahve this rly funny idea that Wildstalker is just a damage hero talent

#

As if KOTG wasnt shared between resto and a DPS spec as well

gloomy nova
#

I mean if u say its that much more healing i might aswell try it, can u link ur spec

clear pulsar
#

This is what I meant with 40%

#

20% per stack

#

Occasionally have 3 stacks on someone after Swiftmend

#

Nothing rly changes with build, I just play Early Spring and WG during big burst dmg

gloomy nova
#

i mean do u play leaves or germ

clear pulsar
#

Idk I've tried both

#

I like germ but thriving does nothing

#

So I play BL more and use the extra point on Call

#

Not sure thats better but ig that helps save mana for WGs

#

WGs replace the Germ casts

gloomy nova
#

It feels too much pve but ill try it out

#

WS that is

clear pulsar
#

Ye ig but it's because of how WS works

#

It has separate proc rate for each spell so WGing kinda doubles your proc rate compared to only having Regrowths out

uneven bronze
#

Is there a way to reroll spec that is more convenient than making a new char with the same class? I regret going balance and want to go feral, but spent all my conquest already

velvet quest
#

wait for your conquest to build up. its not like ur gonna be that much behind just recraft everything and buy agi wep and ur set

uneven bronze
#

its 7 epics I have to recraft. Guess new char it is, gonna be faster

clear pulsar
gloomy nova
#

@clear pulsar In the end nothing matters. We still get shit on like never before by disc and pres

clear pulsar
#

Why do you have to recraft

#

It's 2ndary stats

#

Who cares

#

Simply play the game

#

If you gear a new toon you spend 3x the gold to recraft the items you made

haughty compass
#

Axtin turns on stream. It’s a dungeon stream

random patrol
#

you go to run dungeons sometimes

#

I mean I did a major fuck up earlier this week with my tier set and am now rocking tier set pants with crit and mastery

haughty compass
#

I am a dungeon and delve enjoyer

random patrol
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still not rerolling a new toon

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I jut swapped gems and ring enchants out

haughty compass
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I’ve taken a page out of @clear pulsar book and I’m a healer main now. I play the game whenever I want and get to enjoy all the content instantly

random patrol
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just be careful when qing two toons for shuffle

haughty compass
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Well 2nd is banned, so we’re chillin

random patrol
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my second account is only df

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so 70 twink it is

jolly wren
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What's a good opener rotation on mage in a 1v1 scenario as feral?

brazen thunder
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Finally 1800 on rdru in ss, druid feels like the most mid healer there is.

velvet quest
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Mid is average, average is pretty solid

safe heart
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Crafting shit made me log off the other day

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Seriously no reason why pvp gear isn't just free on a vendor

sly marsh
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I still haven’t figured out how gearing works for pvp outside of honor and conquest

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putting that off as long as I can

patent nebula
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You just buy crafting tokens with conquest then send the order

velvet quest
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It’s basically the same as dragonflight with less time gating

safe heart
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How do you get purple Algeria rings

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That's my main question

livid wasp
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crafting ordeer

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crafting them exactly like you did in df but you use 3 of the things you get 9 of from the one pvp quest or buy from the conquest vendor

velvet quest
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Yes

velvet quest
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It’s the same thing but now you don’t need a spark

safe heart
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How do I get the purple ribbons

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Should I wait for purple ribbons

velvet quest
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Instead of buying a lesser/normal/greater trophy of conquest you buy ribbons

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From the conquest vendor

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A ring costs 525 conquest. A ribbon is worth 175 conquest. You need 3 ribbons to make a ring

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If you have ribbons use them, if you have no ribbons spend 525 conquest to buy 3 ribbons

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And put them in the crafting order along with your mats and a missive and maybe an embellishment if you want one in that slot

safe heart
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Is Algeria gear temporary or is that like my gear goal

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Like I don't wanna do insane Ben starts to gain 1.5 ilvl a week early

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I just wanna finish gear and never look at my inventory or bags again

velvet quest
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It’s your gear goal, you really don’t need to buy anything from conquest vendor aside from trinkets unless you don’t want to spend gold or you want vers stack

late wraith
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hang on

sly marsh
late wraith
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enji did you get the 9 free ribbons already?

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did i miss that?