pvp

[stray sigil]

i ned 40 renown fast

how fast can i do it

@clear pulsar

[clear pulsar]

If youre good prob like 9-10h

In trios

Wins are usually around 4-5k there

[late wraith]

Ye in trios you could get it easily in a weekend now

[clear pulsar]

But definitely not gonna take longer than like 3 or 4 nights yeah

Even if you dont win much you can get like 2k per game pretty chill

[stray sigil]

i cant spam q that shit

its so boring

[late wraith]

Do it with a group

[polar nymph]

Then don't

[clear pulsar]

Spoken like a true nonwinner

Alternatively

Then don't

[stray sigil]

how long is it still up for

[clear pulsar]

I'm gonna unalive my pc after it goes away fr

[stray sigil]

whens it gone

[late wraith]

Same 😔

[clear pulsar]

On new season start

[stray sigil]

so like 2 weeks

[late wraith]

The new panda thing looks good though

It’s not plunder but it’ll take the edge off my sorrow

[livid wasp]

im like really unsure about feral playstyle too like I can watch tony sometimes he doesnt clone at all

well he does clone a bit but hardly

[safe heart]

I thought the panda thing was just a big xp boost

[livid wasp]

could be intredasting

[edgy shale]

how is it a different mode

[late wraith]

Like you’ll select a different thing at the top of character select screen?

Seems kinda straight forward what that means but I dunno?

[edgy shale]

i think u will select a diff thing on the top ye, but calling it a diff mode the way plunderstorm is just seems silly

when its literally just wow with some slight changes

vs. plunderstorm being a whole ass diff thing in wow's engine

[late wraith]

It’s like sod

But in retail

And I’d definitely call sod a different mode

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it sounds a lot like SOD

With the collecting dif spells around?!

[late wraith]

Yeah like the modifiers to your spec make it retail sod which I’m down for I think it’ll be fun. Wonder if there’ll be pvp

[tiny oar]

hi gamers hope you're having a great day full of love and affection and sunshine u deserve it glgl

[edgy shale]

i don't see sod as a different mode its a differnet version of the same game with the same mechanics, but thats just splitting hairs ig it is a different mode if u wanna call it that

[grand mesa]

I get what u mean pod

But ultimately semantics

[safe heart]

So dumb

I wanted free xp not a different game mode

[gaunt flare]

im gonna skip it i think

not my cup of tea

but pulling plunder is dumb

not sure what im going to do next patch

[edgy shale]

it kinda is free xp cuz it should make leveling alts faster, and after the event the characters gets turned into a retail character

[gaunt flare]

i dont play alts and i dont really care about mogs/mounts unless its nightmare themed

so rip me

[edgy shale]

the raids themselves should be fun

but we'll see

[gaunt flare]

idk ptr looks like faceroll

[grand mesa]

It’s also 6 weeks

So they’re not gonna make it actually proggy

Let people enjoy clapping cheeks and collecting rewards in a dead period for retail

Nothing wrong with it

[tiny oar]

true

[velvet quest]

Clapping cheeks and collecting rewards 😎 I wish I could do that irl

[grand mesa]

Yeah it’s ok if you can’t then there’s always classic

[tiny oar]

LOLLLL

[late wraith]

I’m overwhelmed with wow choice

If we get plunder s2 I’m gonna scream

Rated plunder and it’s over between me and arenas

[tiny oar]

rated plunder holy fuck

3s would be DEAD A FUCKING GRAVEYARD

[late wraith]

I dunno! I don’t think that’s real anymore

We have pros in the same lobby as people backpedaling lol

[velvet quest]

Same mmr as imfiredup

[late wraith]

We had 3 back to back people who just backpedaled away from us in the same lobby as him lol. But I see a ton of the same people as well now like I recognize a lot of names of other people just because we play a lot

[random patrol]

stopped thinking started just pve damming

seems to work

[tiny oar]

thats the big brain strat

[gaunt flare]

ok 2 nights of 2s pushing 2400

we had a hunter in the match 87% of the games

and its the same 3 comps

over and over

night after night

im done with this game

playing plunder till its gone and then taking a break from WoW

somehow pushing masters in league his less aids than playing arena. what fucking timeline is this

no 3s comp

SS is aids

[late wraith]

Did you get elite in ss? You were so close

[gaunt flare]

went 4-2 or 3-3 7 times in a row

and lost mmr

[late wraith]

ahh I’m sorry

[gaunt flare]

still 30 poitns away

but like negative MMR

[late wraith]

Ugh

Maybe this week with more people coming back for end of season?

[gaunt flare]

i think im just done lol

[late wraith]

Fair and same

I reached a mental limit with 3s last week and was like cool I’m done

[gaunt flare]

not even having fun

just doing it over some ego

that i cant end under 2400

well fuck it

[late wraith]

Yeah this is sort of where I ended like everytime I logged onto my boomy I was annoyed. Like without even getting in there I was pre annoyed. And it meant I played worse so just overall needed to stop

[random patrol]

2028 in 2s now

not thinking working

[clear pulsar]

Hunter, warrior, dh?

Or rogue

[gaunt flare]

warrior fistweaver
bm disc
DH rsham

thats it. nonstop last 2 nights

and we're uh dk rdruid

so its miserable

[grand mesa]

This is the mental illness you get

When you achieve something you feel like you have to get it every time

Or else idk you suck or whatever

Just letting it go and playing for fun is nice 🤷‍♂️

[grand mesa]

That’s insanely way more miserable than shuffle

LOL

And as unholy / rdru

[gaunt flare]

naw my dk partner does int a round randomly

[grand mesa]

@stray sigil

[gaunt flare]

just went 2-4 cuz someone "d/c"

and i lost 54 rating

[grand mesa]

how high did you get?

[gaunt flare]

literally done with arenas

2393

[grand mesa]

in 2s

Shuffle I know you were right there

[gaunt flare]

oh 2367 in 2s

tanked to 2270

and SS tanked to 2304

[grand mesa]

That’s really solid considering it’s unholy DK / rdru

arms FW and BM/x is fucking miserable with dk

[random patrol]

current goal is 2100 in 2s in the next q session or so then it's back to pushing in 3s

playing boomy afflic atm in 3s

[tiny oar]

before u know it the disease spreads to ur brain and you start zecheyposting

[random patrol]

@tiny oar aug guardian disc it is then

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[tiny oar]

nope

[random patrol]

trade your humanity for bear

[tiny oar]

its a lake chills and pushes keys and only does pvp for transmog kinda season

[clear pulsar]

Come plunder

[tiny oar]

it is 100p not for me but im glad you're enjoying it so much sweetie :)

[clear pulsar]

You're so toxic

[tiny oar]

WTF NO IM NOT

[random patrol]

meanwhile as an actual sadist

[grand mesa]

Based

[clear pulsar]

This is my lobby

[velvet quest]

Lake is leveling eu so she can play 2s with zechey

[tiny oar]

ill make him into a positive minded, kind, and empathetic member of society :)

[clear pulsar]

I got griefed but I killed jah

[clear pulsar]

Why cant you just be accepting of the way people are wired lake

You're so mean to zechey for no reason

[velvet quest]

True lake is like “I can fix him” but zechey is already perfect in his own unique way

[tiny oar]

cant gaslight me goofballs

stop trying

[polar nymph]

Everything is miserable against those

[broken junco]

Why is lake being so toxic

[unkempt wind]

@clear pulsar

[clear pulsar]

I ajmp

[broken junco]

NUMBER1 VICTORY ROYAL

[livid wasp]

rime arrow

what a shit build

[broken junco]

YEAH FORTNITE WE about to GET DOWN

1O KILLS ON THE BOARD RIGHY NOW

JUST WIPED OUT TOMATO TOWN

[livid wasp]

I still have to farm renown

such a pain

[broken junco]

Nah panda land event

Gonna blow blunderstorm away

[crystal forge]

@unkempt wind bald

[livid wasp]

maybe its time to lvl a third feral or something else

do I wanna lvl 3 ferals with yearly expansions tho idk

[unkempt wind]

just so easy

[clear pulsar]

I'm in solos now

[broken junco]

Wait

You can level feral during panda event that's what I'm going to do

And after the event the character will be moved to retail

[clear pulsar]

Kog you actually play wow?

[broken junco]

No

[livid wasp]

I know

I wouldnt level normally, only an insane person would do that

[broken junco]

Man that dudes hard to look at

[clear pulsar]

He makes me hard when I look at

[unkempt wind]

@clear pulsar 3

[livid wasp]

R1 players shouldnt be allowed to plunder

[unkempt wind]

i would insta leave

every oce lobby

[livid wasp]

so they get a chance to win, works as expected

[clear pulsar]

Are you inviting me to trio or what

Mf pings me wit hevery win meanwhile I'm SOLO

[unkempt wind]

3 as in 3 wins in a row u goober

[clear pulsar]

[grand mesa]

Lmao

Poor face

[polar nymph]

[bronze coyote]

should i always run reactive resin vs priest as resto?

[safe heart]

Nah priests don't do melee attacks often enough to make it worth

[tiny oar]

loll

[stray sigil]

[velvet quest]

Yeah axtin listen to zechey, he knows what he’s doing unlike you

[livid wasp]

rime arrow

only thing its good for is stopping drinks

[velvet quest]

Or stop barrels. And it’s poke that’s guaranteed to land unless they bulwark/blink but then that means your other ability (which does more dmg) is guaranteed to land if you can aim

[gloomy nova]

never run that shit talent

[gaunt flare]

rip had 2 kills KS'd. would have been a nice start to the day 😦

[livid wasp]

nice expected just to get daily plunder

[clear pulsar]

It wasnt the 18 kills but it was hard work

[livid wasp]

how do you even find that many people to attack

[clear pulsar]

Chase them down

I had chain early so it was nice

[late wraith]

zechey just run at them. it establishes dominance

even if you only have a single spell and it's bad

[livid wasp]

too scary

[late wraith]

i've run at people with just quaking leap

if they backstep from me at all i lose all reason and just w at them. i become an arms warrior

[gaunt flare]

there we go

even after 2 people suicided to storm

[late wraith]

face we got jumped by 8s

looool

[clear pulsar]

Yeah that guy phat killed me a couple lobbies ago too

When we saw them they were lvl 9

We were 7

[late wraith]

yeah tehy were crazy high compared to us

but we got jumped like 3 times prior

[tropic schooner]

damn you just hit @clear pulsar with who is this poor guy

[late wraith]

i was asking who phat was

[safe heart]

Why are they removing plunder when they could remove shuffle

[pliant forge]

1688 in solo shuffle on a 3 game loss streak

feral bros is it over

[safe heart]

Bro it's been over the entire szn

It's been over since wild attunement hit the shelves

[tiny oar]

+++++++

[random patrol]

add 6v6 arena

for chaos

2 heals a tank and 3 dps

#worseideaever

[maiden viper]

you know that feeling

when you're in SS

and you you're like "yeah the enemy healer... is way better than I am"

and then you check them out

and they have R1 titles in every season since WoD

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-pepe-coin-matt-furie-pepe-the-frog-feels-good-man-gif-13665567947807757518

[late wraith]

glyph play trios with face so we can q into each other

[random patrol]

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

goal for the inbetween season is just to screw around on alts maybe push 2100 in 3s

otherwise just play random stuff

prob aug, frost, disc

[late wraith]

@unkempt wind omg

gorthmog killed both of us 😦

[unkempt wind]

😭😭😭

[livid wasp]

why arent shaman totems all 1 hp

[safe heart]

zechy believe it or not , if that was true the spec would literally be unplayable

healing stream totem and healing tide totem are very important

they already die fairly easy anyway
you can send 1 bite into healing stream and it definitely hurts

[clear pulsar]

Cute

[maiden viper]

do I need to reapply rejuvs when I pop ToL for them to benefit from the 50% increased healing?

[clear pulsar]

No

[maiden viper]

which point do I remove to get curse dispel?

rejuv duration?

[safe heart]

just any of em

[late wraith]

Innervate 😎

[safe heart]

as long as you remove 1 point you will have enough to get curse dispel

[maiden viper]

[clear pulsar]

Well honed or innervate prob

Improved rejuv not the worst to drop either ig

It depends on game mode

I'd drop innervate in shuffle or 2s

Easily

[maiden viper]

ty

[livid wasp]

I want to be able to kil the grab totem with one bear form mangle

why does mangle deal no dmg its stupid

5.5 sec cd

12k dmg

????????

[late wraith]

A moonfire kills that shit

[tiny oar]

yea did u try pressing moonfire

[livid wasp]

im talking about the totem that keeps all the players in one place

forgot its name

[safe heart]

static

[livid wasp]

that

[safe heart]

you can kill that with like 1 or 2 shreds

[livid wasp]

but if im forced to be in bear

[safe heart]

yo zechy

ngl to you bro

just dont be in bear

unless ur healer is cc'd and you cant get away, just dont bother

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

These mfers aren’t even pressing moonfire smdh

[lime light]

i have to post it, who knows what is that bench is a true king in here....

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1118830356808876032/1229489129381695548/PXL_20240403_091058400.jpg?ex=662fddfb&is=661d68fb&hm=034acb59675075775b3dac8a3d750065997219124ab183d28a1548967bdad888&

[maiden viper]

imagine not pressing moonfire

[late wraith]

Couldn’t be me

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar carry me next week in plunder

2x rep

[tulip dew]

Speaking of not pressing moonfire... when are you meant to? Is it sort of a filler for when you're out of range or do you want the dot up as much as possible?

[clear fox]

truth

[clear fox]

sick my being lazy paying off

[livid wasp]

reckful and soda bench at 60+ years old

me knowing that means im just a loser

[broken junco]

@paper horizon

[blazing rivet]

Oil him up

[broken junco]

@paper horizon

[maiden viper]

what's the correct way of handling fistweavers? fuck me I hate that this spec is a thing

[clear pulsar]

No clue

[safe heart]

There's no way to handle them

Just try to cc them and hope you win

[broken junco]

@paper horizon

[gloomy nova]

I love facing them. Shit on them so hard with our toolkit

[trim wagon]

anyone else struggling at low rating as boomy? in the last 3 hours, my rating has not changed, and i'm wondering if going back to my rdru beginnings would be better. i'm confiden't i'd play better than most enemy healers, but dps not popping defensives is obnoxious

[trim wagon]

certainly not the best, and it depends on the comp, but normally i can live through 2 incarns, and pump pretty good + cc settup

i feel like the current map pool isn't great for me

true

but its alolt harder to kite on small maps vs double melee

if only these healers would stand near safety

sometimes its easy to pillar hug and avoid dmg, and then other times the positioning feels alot more difficult

[halcyon hawk]

I made a thing

https://wago.io/Fe7TG-uIX

For people like me too lazy to look at Omnibar for upcoming stuff

[livid wasp]

its probably really helpful but I feel like its cheating when addons help too much

[tropic grove]

@tepid spoke cr check

[tepid spoke]

DICK

[stray sigil]

[tropic grove]

what's the name of your druid again

nvm found you

[clear fox]

WRONG

[stray sigil]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/upcoming-class-tuning-for-dragonflight-season-4-healer-nerfs-338791

[livid wasp]

Ancient Teachings healing transfer amount reduced to 375% in PvP combat (was 412%).

will that make a difference

[safe heart]

Nah

[random patrol]

just rem when all else fails just pve rotation

[lilac lotus]

For boomy in PvP I'm using warrior of elune, when its coming up and I want to use and focus someone, do I want to enter the lunar eclipse and use the 3 Starfires in ST or should I enter the solar eclipse and use them along with wrath?

[livid wasp]

how do I try my 230 rating 2.4k late season shuffle push without losing my mind if I dont manage to do it

[tardy hare]

just go

fuk it

[tropic schooner]

you already have lost your mind absolutely no chance that you lose it again

[safe heart]

Yeah I mean season is over on Tuesday so you may as well sling shit at the wall at this point

Otherwise ur just gunna start from 0

[livid wasp]

wednesday

[safe heart]

Extra day

Zechy would u vod review my games if I send them to you

[livid wasp]

I probably have less clues than you

[safe heart]

I couldn't get 2.1 in shuff

[livid wasp]

I shouldnt be 2.1k with my pvp knowledge but ive played feral half of my life so its natural

[safe heart]

I love feral but I think it'd be so cool to be nice with it on sp

[gloomy nova]

If u are feral why not just give up shuffle and faceroll 3s with a mage

[polar nymph]

Zechey only plays Jungle

That's it

[safe heart]

Imagine being able to find a teammate

Loststray is a holy priest main so all my hopes are lost

[gloomy nova]

Who even plays that garbage comp lol

[polar nymph]

Zechey

[polar nymph]

I'm both HPriest and Arcane main

[gloomy nova]

Ye lfg life is hard but its possible

[safe heart]

I will agree that lfg is hard but I won't agree that it's possible

[safe heart]

PLAY WITH ME

WHAT THE CLUCKKKKKKMKKKMMMMMKK

[polar nymph]

You never ask

[gloomy nova]

What do u mean its not possible? Ofc it is

[safe heart]

Wel I'm gunna ask next time

I'm not cluckin around anymore

[polar nymph]

[safe heart]

Friendship with lfg ended
Loststray is my new best friend

Actually loststray is pog champ cuz if he plays arcane we can play Magiccats OR goshcomp

[polar nymph]

[safe heart]

@polar nymph pres healer ?????????

[polar nymph]

What about pres?

[safe heart]

Mayhe I know 1

[polar nymph]

You find the person and we'll send

[safe heart]

Wow this lfg shit is easy
@gloomy nova was right

[gloomy nova]

I litterally said lfg life is hard but possible

U high or smth?

[polar nymph]

We all are

High on life

[safe heart]

Life is hard but I'm harder
Built diff

[polar nymph]

That's what he said

[livid wasp]

I tried playing with a deva, it just felt worse/more difficult than jungle, would imagine the experience to be same with a mage

[gloomy nova]

Nah feral mage is a really good comp. Endless CC and setups

[safe heart]

Save the mages and dragons for me

[safe heart]

I think you gotta lean into the wild attunement playstyle more as those comps
You force them to make choices about who they let blast

It should be holocaust cc nightmare for the enemy healer

2 spammable ccs that don't dr

[polar nymph]

This one @livid wasp, with Mage they have to choose whether they put their stops in to you or the Mage and whoever doesn't get targeted with stops gets to blast the enemy team for free.

On paper it's a lot simpler than Jungle is.

[livid wasp]

I tried spamming clone it didnt feel so good

maybe I need a glad deva for it idk

[lime light]

the biggest issue with u Zechey is that, u focus on one thing every ssn and u are obssesed with it, like u just said "iam spamming cyclone whole game", just play the fucking game

[livid wasp]

biggest issue is im bad, I would be R1 if I wasnt

[gloomy nova]

That usually makes it hard to progress

[clear fox]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/class-and-talent-tree-reworks-in-the-war-within-alpha-druids-monks-paladins-338751

[polar nymph]

Is it finally happening!?

[livid wasp]

Coiled to Spring - If you generate a combo point in excess of what you can store, your next Ferocious Bite or Primal Wrath deals 10% increased direct damage.

did they just forget to say rip

[polar nymph]

That would effectively be a penalty if you ever didn't rip at over max points.

[livid wasp]

Shred and Rake can be used in any form and shift you into Cat Form.

hmm

makes switching around a bit more fluid I guess

[polar nymph]

And with this the last remaining 3 point node in the game is gone

Hallelujah

[clear fox]

gotta say hate the resto tree changes

class tree is nice tho

[static steeple]

we have to pick up instincts of the claw just to have bash lol

im assuming we still only have 31 points to use in this druid tree and levels 70-80 are points for hero talents

looks like we can pick up a all of the cool new balance related things while keeping tanky stuff and picking up bash (for resto pvp)

simply wasting 2 points into instincts of the claw

oh, we don't have swarm anymore..

[livid wasp]

resto doesnt deserve any cc

[static steeple]

i wonder how mastershaper shifter is gonna work, im guessing u get the same damage buff with no moonkin form

so that + the added damage from starlight conduit, maybe resto can actually press wrath outside of tree form and pickup up starsurge more often

[static steeple]

https://www.wowhead.com/beta/talent-calc/druid/restoration/keeper-of-the-grove/DAQEQRFAGBVEVURKlAUBBOVURRVRERhVURBUDURREFVVECQQDgxshhWNahkC5

i think dropping verdant infusion is worth double swiftmend cause more reforestation procs

idk why i have hibernate selected. that can be soothe vs warriors and decurse vs shaman/lock

wtf this is so cool

mastershapeshifter is probably good with starlight conduit. that's free mana for a decent nuke every 6 seconds

[clear pulsar]

Shit talent tree

Rerolling monk

[chrome panther]

^

[static steeple]

idk how it cant be seen as more fun than the current one

[chrome panther]

monk keeps cracked s3 set in talents

druid gets this mess

[static steeple]

we're currently forced into so many worthless talents

we don't even need to take sunfire, soothe, 2 points in astral, 3 points in lycara's, and moonkin. that's 5 extra points given back to us

honor talents are troll though..

hero*

[clear pulsar]

I think fluid shapeshifting existing but being restrictive is very weird. It basically reworks how you bind 3 or 4 spells but its a late pick talent that you may not always have even after that high level.

The class tree has 0 choice now its all gonna be locked in cuz you can pick up everything remotely useful

Resto lost swarm

[static steeple]

how is the current druid taletn tree good

[clear pulsar]

What?

[static steeple]

there's 1 3v3 spec

how is this better. for 3s this is pretty much the only build (you sometimes take decurse)

there's 3 talents u pick on spells u never press

soothe is only vs warriors but you're forced to always take it

now soothe you can switch out + dont need to put points into sunfire, wildgrowth, nor moonkin form

tl/dr, i see less choice in the current class tree for resto 3s

and i think they removed swarm cause of the hero talents overbuffing healing

[clear pulsar]

I dont play any of that

Idk

[primal vector]

@winter pollen please

my man

just talk in here

[clear pulsar]

Either way tho, the spec is just different now then but its a lot more locked in

[static steeple]

what do you play? im sure whatever you currently play is at least doable in the new tree if not better

[clear pulsar]

You take less fluff if you will, and end up with more spells overall. The design is still bad if the intention is for a talent tree to provide build diversity

[static steeple]

gotcha

[clear pulsar]

My point isnt that I cant make up whatever build I run

Just that the new design still fails. The way the class plays is prob improved.

[static steeple]

yeah, i feel that's how the current tree is but i get what you mean

[clear pulsar]

But I play everything I want already

[static steeple]

tbh they'll prolly make a million changes like they did in DF so

we'll see

the pve druids love to complain and force hella changes at the beginning of every expac

[clear pulsar]

Wait no I forgot to swap sunfire aoe for maim

Just started from a pve build

[static steeple]

do you play with wizards?

[clear pulsar]

Whatever is in the lobby in shuffle

If there arent any casters then I dont take kick ofc

[static steeple]

i see, definitely a fun build but i feel like it's too scary to play into double melee

which is why most druids just go for the bear/moonkin range talents

[clear pulsar]

I'm not that interested in playing like a bitch boy I'd rather have more fun and cap out 100 rating lower

Idk tho the spec tree is

Losing swarm entirely

[static steeple]

no swarm gonna suck vs purge

[clear pulsar]

And no fix for flourish

If anything flourish got worse

Makes me very dad

Sad

[static steeple]

eh flourish been dead in pvp

[clear pulsar]

Didnt have to be

[static steeple]

yeah

[clear pulsar]

[static steeple]

didnt the druid lead quit at the end of SL or something?

[clear pulsar]

I was a big flourish enjoyer pre nerf

[clear pulsar]

The old druid lead was just as bad

They were the one that made current class tree

[static steeple]

oh

WHAT

one last fuck you to us LOL

[clear pulsar]

The dev change was like a month before DF release I think

[static steeple]

i see

thanks for confirming, DF makes way more sense now lmao

[clear pulsar]

So like end of day the new class tree is def better

Ofc

But its still bad design

Its only better cuz you make up a more interactive kit

Losing swarm tho thats assssssss

[livid wasp]

theres something fucked up about deva players

[stray sigil]

have u seen the images lol

it doesnt fuck

wdym

[clear fox]

What ?

[stray sigil]

[clear fox]

Boosters in shambles

3s might as well be deleted then

[stray sigil]

u can def wintrade and shit in shuffle

they gonna be ok

[clear fox]

Wat that’s gotta be pain

[stray sigil]

i posted it

in the other discord

i think

its gonna have a lot more activity now

cuz theres a mount on top

[stray sigil]

=ye its that thing

2 xpacs of decent mounts

need 1 of pure dog

like wod

[clear fox]

I mean to me mount from shuffle is a W

That’s true for sure

I do think current glad mounts were / are too difficult overall

Given the low participation and inflation we’ve seen

[stray sigil]

it says custom glad mount

i think bg blitz

might get one too

and its just

diff colors

they said they wanted the pvp of wow to be bgs in that thing

so i assume

ye

[clear fox]

Quite gross

[stray sigil]

arenas a dying game mode

so its kinda w.e

lol

[clear pulsar]

We reroll gw2?

[stray sigil]

[livid wasp]

blitz is good

[stray sigil]

blitz is good just need refinement

and can duo with a friend

[clear pulsar]

Blitz is bad

[stray sigil]

no duos for u pig

[clear pulsar]

Bro if shuffle which is inherently a fairer experience had inhuman levels of quitters

[stray sigil]

when fdk is on top

[clear pulsar]

Imagine blitz

[stray sigil]

u will beg me

for blitz qs

[clear pulsar]

Where you dont reroll teammates every round

Every single game will be 6v8

5v8

Within 3 mins

[stray sigil]

meh u get out of the chimp mmr

and its fine

will be like rbgs with no comms

[livid wasp]

clone is great in blitz for ninjacaps

[stray sigil]

wrong q into camel

and lose in 20s

afk out

camel or ray

just afk out

np

[static steeple]

fuck

3s is actually dead

[stray sigil]

apparently it was fake

not sure

[clear fox]

I am sad

Wait

You looking at df 4

Vs war within 1

[stray sigil]

oh

wtf

[static steeple]

thank goodness

[stray sigil]

ppl saying cant find source anymore

for the shuffle glad

[clear fox]

Give free Glad mounts

So I never have to lfg

[livid wasp]

legend isnt that free anyway

fuck you elitist r1s

[stray sigil]

[livid wasp]

so much fun facing fw shit

impossible to clone

[edgy shale]

less of a clone tax now

zechey be happy

[heavy cairn]

This pic almost rocked the wow pvp community lol

[livid wasp]

spriest is so stupidly broken

immortal

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2122463314?filter=archives&sort=time

look at the game from 55 min

whats the point in even trying to kill the spriest

he just lives

[livid wasp]

idk if we need to do more switches instead of sitting on him all game

[royal spindle]

hit up a homie and said "yo i forgot to get elite set this season" and he goes "lets get it then" quick 20 minute adventure

[safe heart]

Clone his disperse

You guys were farming their cds

2nd disperse if you clone that, he's fucked

Instant cast root into a clone while his healer is chasing

[livid wasp]

I couldnt

[safe heart]

Why not

[livid wasp]

did you see how I get nature locked

and priest runs away to los

[safe heart]

It's just for 2s

[livid wasp]

yes

and during that priest runs to los

no time to clone his disperse

[tiny oar]

do ferals play precog

[livid wasp]

and prevoker had kick he wouldve kicked

yes but only noobs get faked

[safe heart]

Should've tried imo
Chase and clone
Or at the very least go for cc on healer

Ground was out of the way

[livid wasp]

cyclone was already dr

[safe heart]

Shit it was a pres healer too, even root is goood cc on them alot of times

Root pres, maybe can stall for clone dr

And rly it doesn't matter if you get kicked there, your dev can blast since you tanked the kick

[haughty compass]

[safe heart]

Honestly tho using the sp as a free cyclone is good too

They can't stop it on their own

[clear pulsar]

Rooting the evoker a total of 0 times is a crime yeah

[livid wasp]

doesnt he just insta dispel it

[safe heart]

Sure but it stops him

[livid wasp]

why is prevoker prone to it unlike other healers

[safe heart]

They have short range

[haughty compass]

Only escape we have is dispel

[clear pulsar]

Cuz their swiftmend is a dash

They HAVE to dispel

Other healers can just vibe rooted way more often

[livid wasp]

guess I root them then

[safe heart]

Zechy at ur level this is the tiny micro plays that are gunna help you win

[haughty compass]

Getting rooted as Pres is giga annoying

[safe heart]

It feels nitpicky because it is

[livid wasp]

see, I didnt think of that, you did

why are you not 2.2k

[safe heart]

Cuz I physically can't read

[clear pulsar]

Idk enji got the same glad exp as you

[livid wasp]

he complains about not getting 2.1k in shuffle

[clear pulsar]

NA harder than EU

EU 2.1 = NA 1.6

[safe heart]

I can't get it
It's not my fault

[livid wasp]

kappa

just get it

[safe heart]

Shuffle is very hard for me
I can't explain it
But this is about ZECHEY

[haughty compass]

Feral dev healer

Pve

[livid wasp]

I cant even spam games cause devokers quit after like 10 games cause it doesnt work

[safe heart]

Tell ur devoker is he bad

[livid wasp]

its a lot harder than jungle

[safe heart]

I couldn't see dmg but was your devo blastering

[livid wasp]

feral healer devoker is only good if played by R1s, only they can make it look like pve

idk

cant tell what is blasting

[safe heart]

I've only ever played it once and at like 1800 but it felt good to me

[livid wasp]

I cant tell if we do more dmg than jungle

[haughty compass]

Evoker should be doing like 100k dps most of the time

[safe heart]

You prob just feel awkward with the devo cuz he doesn't set up with you

So it feels like ur doing nothing

[livid wasp]

damage done overall was 47k that last game for evoker

[safe heart]

That's rly bad

That's feral dmg

[livid wasp]

he had s2 glad mount cant be that bad

in some games it was higher

[safe heart]

Did he get it as evoker

[livid wasp]

idk

[safe heart]

Cuz that matters

[livid wasp]

russian name didnt check him

[safe heart]

I'm glad giga Chad xp feral but I am hardstuck 1600 on sp

U feel me

[livid wasp]

shouldnt be that hard to deal a lot of dmg was deva

[safe heart]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

he should be doing HOlocausttttt

[haughty compass]

Dev is pretty low cieling yea

[safe heart]

Idk how they do it , but most devos I see just fucking blast and it's unhealable

[clear pulsar]

Yeah I hate dedv

They're unhealable damgur and purge 12 hots every 20s

[haughty compass]

It’s pretty toxic tbh

[safe heart]

Pykan I left the discord cuz I didn't get even 1 msg

Sry I can't be Him ™️

[haughty compass]

Was a nice try

If you have a healer illl Q with u.

But I’m sod addict atm

[safe heart]

I'll ping u if it works out

[haughty compass]

I need to try and crack elite in shuff I guess. Haven’t put in the time at all 😦

[safe heart]

Can u get mine while ur at it

I'm like 1900

[haughty compass]

I can see if my buddy can play holy priest too

[clear pulsar]

Yeah I havent hit 2.4 either this season

[stray sigil]

[clear pulsar]

I don't think I'll care to try hard this week, sounds miserable

[safe heart]

What's the trick to getting 2.4 in shuffle

[haughty compass]

Playing and not tilting

[clear pulsar]

Playing early in the season cuz right now nobody that high is playing

[stray sigil]

press q

[clear pulsar]

So you cant yoink mmr from them

[haughty compass]

Yea I’m coasting on my high ass mmr atm

[safe heart]

I tilt after 2 rounds

[haughty compass]

But I’ve lost the last 2 lobbies I’ve played

[clear pulsar]

Everytime I get close to 2.2 mmr I spam games into sub 2.1 mmr healers and slowly dwindle back down

[haughty compass]

lol

[stray sigil]

u are the legendary f2tank though

[clear pulsar]

Nobody higher mmr is queueing unless theyre close to rank 1

[stray sigil]

u are built diff

[safe heart]

Should I like queue and do incarn and then hide all game

That sounds kinda legit

[haughty compass]

I went 1-5 in an outlaw / sub / surv lobby as dev and I wanted to uninstall

[clear pulsar]

Maybe this week I try to get 1.8 on alts I havent played

But then DPS queue times

No shot

[clear pulsar]

Imagine the healer that lost that 1 round to you

Their mental went kaboom for sure

Pykan you wanna plunder?

[stray sigil]

plunder

[haughty compass]

[haughty compass]

At work my boy

[tepid spoke]

Glad mount in shuffle

Lfg

[livid wasp]

so much datamined shit

[clear pulsar]

Bruh

[haughty compass]

My vibe was they want solo Q rbg to pop off

[livid wasp]

its good, more people deserve glad mounts

its only a bunch of R1s gatekeeping it

they should put it down to 2.1k in 3s

where can I see them

[safe heart]

Looks kinda cool tbh

[livid wasp]

meh

if they want more people to play do you think they are going to make it more difficult for people to get it rofl

im probably still not gonna get it

its not about mental

[haughty compass]

Nothing makes me happier than dunking on a giant ego glad mounter in shuffle

[livid wasp]

ive not hit 2.3k in 3s DF yet

[haughty compass]

#windlickersupreme

[livid wasp]

despite 2k or something games

there should be a mount at 2.1k and for glad

all I have to show for getting this shit rating is weapon transmog

its so sad how much time I spend on this game and im never getting glad again

[haughty compass]

Ngl it def makes me lock in and I always play better

[safe heart]

If they're queueing into me while riding a glad mount I know they're playing an alt they don't know how to play

[livid wasp]

youre just smarter

[safe heart]

What's the play

How to approach game

[haughty compass]

What are your play times

[safe heart]

I can play for like 2ish hours from 9pm to 11pm cst

I basically when wife goes to bed I gotta be in charge of keeping baby asleep

[livid wasp]

you just have a better pvp brain

you just think its a matter of approaching

its like when people are like "why dont people just study to become doctors or lawyers and get paid and shit"

a lot of people are too dumb for that

I cant find an IT job and im not a pro programmer cause im dumb

im bound to do some shit manual labor job if I wanna work

how could someone like that be a glad

there isnt at least here, and if there is a job opening theres 500 applicants for that spot

[grand mesa]

it’s def tough job market rn

[livid wasp]

I cant wait for companies to start taking advantage of AI too

[tropic schooner]

what makes you think that doesnt happen?

[stray sigil]

fake

[livid wasp]

what do you mean, I think it will happen

[stray sigil]

the screenshot was fake

[livid wasp]

now? idk

I guess thats cool, let the same group of R1s get the glad mount

while the rest quit the game

too much work for them

[stray sigil]

u already know if shuffle has a mount with 3s

its just gonne be some recolors

[livid wasp]

idk if it would be even physically possible for me to push 2.4k right now

I can only find 2.1k people

game is such a huge mess not that easy to do

maybe in ww its time to become a pure shuffle andy

to avoid this 3s embarrassment fiesta

wasnt feral fotm in season 1

[grand mesa]

Queue times makes it a non starter imo

[livid wasp]

its whatever I spend most of my time on pc doing nothing anyway

[tiny oar]

I already dont shuffle as a healer no way I'm maining shuffle as a dps with 30m queues

[safe heart]

Do we have to re earn the battle mender title

[livid wasp]

maybe I will heal on pala or pri next season

goal to get that title

[stray sigil]

feral was fotm in s2

and kinda now

s1 not rly was more like gameplay had low barrier to entry and ppl qq'd nonstop about high pad dps

but feral was dogshit in s1

[safe heart]

Is feral is fotm then why am I 1900 in shuffle

[livid wasp]

feral fotm now? lolololo

I guess it kinda is, for R1 people who can somehow play it perfectly synced with team

[stray sigil]

fmp is some r word proof comp yes

[haughty compass]

fuji we played feral dev in s1

for liek 4 games

innovaters

[grand mesa]

I’m watching kamalen doing unspeakable damage

In that comp

Also I can’t figure out how he’s zooming out so far and it’s driving me crazy

[haughty compass]

link

[grand mesa]

His stream or the zoom

the video doesn’t work

There’s one thing I need to test when I’m home

and have access to my ultrawide

[haughty compass]

his stream

[grand mesa]

I’m wondering if he’s ultrawide then viewporting back to normal resolution

Idc what anyone says that’s not normal

yeah

cause viewport black bars does adjust FOV

He told me I’m tripping that’s just normal

I’m thinking in what universe have u seen the entire dalaran platform like that lmao

[haughty compass]

link steam so i can watch dragon

[grand mesa]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2114807609

[haughty compass]

plz

ty

[grand mesa]

@haughty compass

[haughty compass]

tytyty

[grand mesa]

also Pykan may pick ur brain later on deva

Might be my dps alt for the season

[haughty compass]

sick

[grand mesa]

If u say

Just spam disintegrate

Imma lose it

[haughty compass]

happy to help puzzle

[grand mesa]

I want to know what’s the ideal order. I’ve been doing like. Deep breath. When I land dragon rage into shattering star 1 tick essence surge -> TTS firebreath

then Disin and azure strike to proc new disin

inside dragon rage

Idk if that’s right lmao

[haughty compass]

Yea p-much

dont always hae to DB to set up

[grand mesa]

And it’s just p much 30s 1 min 2 min intervals? Like u can shattering star and essence burst once inbetween the 1 min deep breaths and the 2 min dragonrage/tts fire breath. And just disin inbetween?

What I find jarring is being used to hover and then when I don’t have it up I feel like I need adult supervision

when my disin all of a sudden I can’t move and channel lmao

@stray sigil

I have been known to egregiously bunny hop yes

asking an rdru/ele player to take their hands off spacebar is a hard ask

[safe heart]

just play with feral and free cast

[grand mesa]

True

[haughty compass]

if u play causaility it reduces cd of es

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

My only real experience with deva

Was 2s with Fuji’s hpal and I forgot all about unburdened flight

Was getting my devussy smashed by melee

[haughty compass]

the dmg is pretty easy, the learning curve is getting used to hover charges

if you're kiting etc

a good rule of thumb to get used to is sleep walk before every eternity surge

and if they kick, you have your dps spells to send

between rescue / 2 walls / 3 hovers

can live pretty dece

[clear pulsar]

Bro you're shitting me

[tiny oar]

RIP

[forest kite]

does feral have vanish now?

[lethal lichen]

Shadowmeld i think, almost every feral is night elv

[waxen marsh]

Really new to pvp, playing resto and just wondering how to handle arms warriors, they seem to always be on you and trying to disengage or lock them down is tricky due to all the ways they seem to have to break out of Cc.

Gonna assume skill issue so what skills do I need to address

[late wraith]

Why is this so pixelly

[clear pulsar]

Idk it has many pixels

[clear pulsar]

Incarnation also gives one prowl cast, along with being night elf

[clear pulsar]

Wild charge in no form to teammates or treants

Mass root / vortex

Dont waste your sprints while bladestorm is rolling since itll just re-slow you

[paper horizon]

we've done it, the RBG demons have been defeated
https://vxtwitter.com/N_Tys26/status/1780714858855706652

[grand mesa]

In addition to face’s stuff, cut corners around pillars tight and good so when you do press a button to create space you do it such that you can immediately turn the corner and can’t get reconnected on with charge or stormbolt.

Generally speaking dragging dps back deep into your territory/behind pillars usually get them to fuck off. Especially if you bash/clone leave them back there and they wasted a ton of time. They’ll feel it’s not worth it and they’re not getting anything done and they back off. And obviously if your dps see it they can turn and get a ton of buttons out of the overextenders/score a kill

I stand by BG blitz doing serious damage to arena

[velvet quest]

I doubt there’s gonna be a huge % of 3s mains who exclusively start doing blitz instead. And I think rated blitz will create a larger population of rated pvpers from pve or unrated bg spammers and maybe some of those people try shuffles or 3s

[grand mesa]

I think it’ll capture a fair amount of casual arena players

perfect for me

I need to setup click casting again

and mouseovers

[livid wasp]

I hope feral will be good for rbg

(it wont)

[grand mesa]

If queues are fast and comps varied cause it’s solo queue probably won’t feel as bad 🤷‍♂️

[livid wasp]

I wonder if ill be able to queue as guardian and switch to feral if need be

[tardy hare]

Just go guardian gggg

[livid wasp]

naaah

[grand mesa]

Gonna need a steering wheel

To do RBG properly

[haughty compass]

All depends on the rewards. If they are on par with arena rewards then yea it’s gonna be huge

[grand mesa]

Pykan why the heck r u up so early 😵‍💫

yeah it is you can hit all the normal ranks without it

Atleast datamined

[haughty compass]

I have 5am class 3x/week

[grand mesa]

goddamn ok

We’re having dinner rn (I’m in China)

[haughty compass]

Hope the future is cool

[grand mesa]

It was cool I kept telling Fuji that I’m from the future he doesn’t get his Lego

And I was right

Gg

[paper horizon]

it'll get a 1 hour queue and shuffle is the only one standing by the end of it

[grand mesa]

I’m not convinced

It’s got a better ratio than shuffle for dps:healers and since healers can phone a friend and bring a buddy, and the mode having 2 healers to share stress, I suspect you’ll see more healers queueing

[paper horizon]

more people = more chance somebody says something dumb and healer stops healing

[grand mesa]

than shuffle

Maybe but I doubt it. I think 3s probably safe if they keep the glad mount only there but I think shuffle probably fucked

Solo queue casual competitive mode where it’s more forgiving to be an idiot and die

[paper horizon]

majority of players can't get glad to begin with, so why bother with the mode

[grand mesa]

I can’t see how it doesn’t do somewhat well

much less thrive

[grand mesa]

Easy answer. They’re not

[paper horizon]

not sure how accurate this info was

[grand mesa]

I think Leeka has to retract Thag chart some of it wasn’t right

And he was gonna repost

Oh the alts % was sus

The others weren’t

[paper horizon]

if even remotely true this is bad news

it shows less and less players get it

and the glads or mglad/r1s just get it more on alts

[grand mesa]

Cdews opinion is that blizz doesn’t want to do artificial inflation anymore. And they’d rather it come from sheer activity

But I think inflation and activity is some weird chicken or egg thing

If u have DF S1 shuffle, u didn’t need inflation. Activity alone drove folks to 3.6

they didn’t push inflation until week 10 or whatever

but idk. I think u just make glad much easier and let activity drive inflation.

but doing nothing and magically hoping players play probably isn’t it

A buddy of mine has been tracking it and it’s roughly 0.66 inflation a day when last season it was 2.2-2.5. They ain’t doing shit lol

[paper horizon]

[paper horizon]

the rewards need to atleast look obtainable for people to take the carrot

[haughty compass]

Man I need to get that second account. lol

[grand mesa]

I’m personally ok with it being comfortably out of reach lmao. Means I don’t give a shit and just play for fun

if they inflate like crazy then I gotta find folks xyz

the fomo will hit too hard

[grand mesa]

2nd account tech is bis

[grand mesa]

But they did put Atleast rank relates rewards minus glad mount into BG blitz. And I think that’s what’s gonna drive a lot of activity. Captures a lot of the casual base which is life blood of MMR trickling up imo

[paper horizon]

you forget that more people also means harder to carry

max premade for carry is 1heal + 1dps

[halcyon hawk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/496102776225398796/1230475933090054244/LdEkeKI.png?ex=66337503&is=66210003&hm=7d47ed4287601c2cdbb8000291d57a1bee57994e3b47acc348343c125c6ca79e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[paper horizon]

imagine not winning your placement game, time to reroll

[halcyon hawk]

Made an Omnibar replacement that just shows in a set time before a CD comes off

[grand mesa]

After mop remix I’ll have like 12 rdruids

[halcyon hawk]

Resetting between shuffles

[grand mesa]

[halcyon hawk]

here it is for people that might want it

https://wago.io/i_lkBduAj

[grand mesa]

whichever one wins the placement BG blitz

That’s my main

[haughty compass]

Mop remix / sod / new wow. Why won’t they let me quit 🤣

[grand mesa]

They hate us

They should just release another korthia and set us free

[tiny oar]

trevy and f2f would still play it

[grand mesa]

[tropic grove]

Change your work hours into something that's incompatible with mmo's, it'll set you free by force

[wanton ridge]

im still of the opinion that healer mmr is fucked and its frustrating and dominoes into longer queue times for everyone else

waiting sucks lol

Lots of ppl in guild would like to play shuffle but queues make it miserable

[grand mesa]

I think low healer MMR is a feature. I’m convinced

it’s the only way to keep dps queues even remotely reasonable even tho it’s not

[wanton ridge]

I know why its that way, and I agree in theory its a good idea

[grand mesa]

But yeah I had a lot of pve buddies who were interested in shuffle early DF but got turned off by queues

[wanton ridge]

But the number of times you go 3-3 against a lower rated healer but there's a dps that netiher of us can keep alive, and you lose rating, it is tilting

[grand mesa]

but it’s why like. Inflating healer MMR will never happen. And they won’t reward 3-3s or make it better or else it’s inflationary

They’re better off incentivizing other ways

[wanton ridge]

They are addin achievements in TWW for mythic dungeons, you have to all of them with all roles, not sure if it gives mounts or anything, but its a start to nodge people into playing other roles. Maybe could try doing something like that for shuffle

[grand mesa]

They started with battle mender but they really didn’t lean into it enough

Really think a healer specific glad mount, an obnoxiously sick wep enchant glow, and idk BMAH containers and gold and shit would probably do the trick

[wanton ridge]

Yeah, as it is for all of DF I got my 1.8 set, waited til next season for conquest cap removal, do it again

More fun to do 3s instead of shuffle lol

[haughty compass]

Healer has always been an underplayed role in like every game though it’s just the way it is

It also doesn’t help that the legend reward is a pennant that isn’t even that cool. Get 2.1 and no reason to Q after that really

[wanton ridge]

Sure, but they can make it less frustrating, it's their job

[safe heart]

how

[grand mesa]

Tbf blizz saw it coming when they first designed solo shuffle and we had tank queueing as healers

[wanton ridge]

Like queuing for 2 hours and gaining 0 rating because you played with a brain dead dps in all games, fun

[safe heart]

how aer they supposed to account for a brain dead dps

[wanton ridge]

They can't

But add something to make up for it, idk, not my job lol

[haughty compass]

Wrapping my head around carrying the shit dps to a win has made shuffle healing more tolerable

[safe heart]

i mean they cant account for it but also add something to make up for it

[haughty compass]

At least for me

[grand mesa]

ill be honest I think that’s kinda cope

[wanton ridge]

The entire point is to make more people want to play shuffle, one big issue is queue times

[grand mesa]

You over perform in your healer duel against other healer to steal a round and get the 4-2 with a dps destined to go 0-6

Idk

[haughty compass]

I still contend if the rewards were worth the Q it would be played but they aren’t

[tiny oar]

fuck shuffle

[haughty compass]

True lake

[wanton ridge]

hi lake

[safe heart]

when skill capped said that shuffle was the fast food of pvp
that was based af

[grand mesa]

I’d be happy if they nixxed shuffle for a straight solo queue into the 3s pool

[tiny oar]

hey :)

[haughty compass]

Yea that seems to be the healer shuffle meta

[grand mesa]

And u just had solo duo and trio rating

[tiny oar]

hi pykan hope u been well bud

[safe heart]

playing with 5 other ppl who arent interested in working with you to win is the dumbest shit ever

[tropic grove]

Adding healer only rewards isn't the way to go

They just need to make healing fundamentally more enjoyable and less convoluted

[grand mesa]

not possible

[safe heart]

how can they possibly do that lol

[grand mesa]

In arena

Healers are designed to lose

That’s the point

[safe heart]

healers by design play not to lose
dps by design play to win

[tropic grove]

Then make healers play to win as well idk

[grand mesa]

People hate that

[wanton ridge]

I enjoy healing in shuffle, like the actual game is fine (subjective maybe?), but its the system around it that makes me want to not queue

[tropic grove]

Im not an ideas man

[grand mesa]

It’s called fw and when disc was strong

[tropic grove]

Im just a figure out the issues man