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late wraith
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Wow a good take? On world of Warcraft? In dgpvp? What the

livid wasp
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ty, the build you suggested works

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people always said pvp is shittier than ever since cataclysm

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its the same shit now as ever

tropic schooner
livid wasp
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I bet they did

clear pulsar
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Theyre missing out on plunder

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The real pvp of wow

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Where my post reset plunderers at

tropic schooner
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I'm not a pirate

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I'm TFT gamer

clear pulsar
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Dang

haughty compass
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Plunder is chill, not my favorite but a nice little vibey mini game to jump into

safe heart
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No fun allowed
Idk why I have to keep telling you all this

stray sigil
clear pulsar
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I'm plundering

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Believe it or not I have wow friends outside of dreamgrove

tropic schooner
lilac sluice
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Hey guys maybe someone can help me. I play heal druid only 2k mmr on 2s but i get most time so much dmg and not sure what i can do -.- i loose so much games cause of this and not sure how to improve

tropic schooner
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prolly best to post vods

gaunt flare
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My WoW friends are all on SoD or not on WoW at all right now 😦

livid wasp
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I have no wow friends only arena colleagues

livid wasp
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does it just say this instead of "pets you" nowadays

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to avoid bm

grand mesa
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but now it was golden era of wow class design and gaming

safe heart
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Bring back mop talents

late wraith
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same with /hug if you have someone targetted it says "beavs hugs zechey" but if i didn't have you targetted it would say "beavs need a hug"

livid wasp
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I know but if they changed it in arena or bgs that it always does it like nobodys targetted

velvet quest
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I use /pity and /pulse I don’t use any others except special occasions for people who deserve something more personal šŸ˜Ž

livid wasp
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what about the good old t

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t-bag

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sigh

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whats the point of arena cant get 2.4k

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why do I spend time on this

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to feel good about myself by beating other players

grand mesa
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Random BGs gg

livid wasp
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I did that for years, not enough anymore

safe heart
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There is no point

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If u can't get glad imo

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None of the rewards have any clout besides the mount so why sufferr

livid wasp
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my sub runs out in 1 month too, will see if I cba with the new season

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or take a break till ww

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I hope to god feral wont be a clonebot in ww

safe heart
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Ur gunna unsub zechy so it won't matter

haughty compass
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Need one of yall to play dh with us

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Dh / dk / Pres

grand mesa
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Idk I just like pressing the buttons and it feels good šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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@safe heart @livid wasp would u guys enjoy playing even if there’s no rating at all

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Actually curious

safe heart
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Nope

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If theree was no status / clout associated , I wouldn't play

grand mesa
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I find that so interesting cause I’m just not wired that way but I guess I’m pretty sure I’m def in the minority

safe heart
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I mean

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Basically pvp is fun if I'm winning and infuriating if I losing and there's almost no middle ground

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And it's not evenly split

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It's like if 0 is baseline , I win and I'm +10
But if I lose I'm -70

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And that +10 will go up to maybe 20 or 30 if I win bigly
Like 15-2 sesh

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It's fun to beat players but the thing is is that if the game mode has no respect then it feels pointless

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Like I would never pvp in diablo 2 cuz they literally just do it for fun

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Yea but imagine glad has the same clout as like rbgs

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No one cares about rbgs

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Even if ur r1 rbger

grand mesa
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I like getting better don’t get me wrong. Or fighting better people. And in that sense the rating serves a purpose for better matchmaking. But idk if I ever care about the number itself

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That new skill capped video was p good about discussing it

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it’s what we all knew but it broke down how DF became all about throughput

safe heart
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That's why it feels pointless to play if u can't get glad

grand mesa
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Cc duration nerfs made micro cc stronger. Class design followed what m+ requires so everything has become about cleave big throughput and just micro CC for enough disruption to score kills no matter how unclean the setup is

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I think if they did (which they won’t) kill addons and WAs for arenas then CDs have to be lowered considerably

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don’t think people realize how much they rely on audio cues from mes wa at this point

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Ie. The perfect trading you’re talking about

safe heart
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Healer cc wa pavlovs me into bear

grand mesa
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I just don’t know how u can disable what players want taken out without just gutting addons entirely

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Not being able to read auras or combat log

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I just think that’s such an uninformed reductive take

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Oh just turn it all off easy

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Even cosmetic addons probably gonna too or stuff that doesn’t even do what they’re bitching about lol

random patrol
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I've been playing like 4 other games that do pvp, wow is the only one that requires addons to see stuff that should be built in so until then addons can stay

grand mesa
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Yeah the guys who’s formative years was tab targetting to kick a healer in 2004 was worthy of slow motion zoom in with the music drop

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in their frag video

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And shadow fury was instant back then lmao

broken junco
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I am going to eat some francium

stray sigil
polar nymph
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I wish 90% of PvP players could express the issues with a problem in PvP without immediately jumping to either the most extreme opposite situation as an answer or wanting to go scorched earth on the game mode.

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Blizzard have restricted the strength of addons like WeakAuras before without completely nuking them from existence.

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Delete all addons is an insane solution to the question of the current strength of addons in PvP though.

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And I keep seeing it being echoed.

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I don't trust Blizzard to build a good default UI for Arena.

grand mesa
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I mean let’s be real. For I’d argue most players. The biggest benefit for mes WA and bigdebuffs on nameplates is that it trivializes that specific skill to parse icons on unit frames buffs/debuffs to recognize a player has pressed a CD or not and now has the respective buff. And that’s also a failing of blizz UI. I don’t think WAs for how a lot of people use it is particularly game breaking

polar nymph
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It was a response to a lot of threatening buffs and debuffs not being visually distinct from others or even visible enough to people amidst everything else going on.

grand mesa
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Also probably an indictment in how much bloat we’ve incurred from just procs and talents and passives itself. You press blade dance once and 2 rows of debuffs show up on unitframes lmao

polar nymph
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Yes

grand mesa
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And plater

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if you look at TBC gameplay in classic there were like 4-6 auras tops. Insanely readable

polar nymph
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The readability of some cooldowns like Combustion vs others like Icy Veins is also incredibly inconsistent.

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You can see it on your screen instantly when Combustion appears.

grand mesa
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Yeah. Wings and combustion and iceblock very obvious

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vs like idk. Shadow blades

polar nymph
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Spirit of Redemption too.

grand mesa
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Idek if it has an animation I’ve never noticed anything that stood out

polar nymph
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But stuff like Pain Suppression and Rapture aren't very noticeable.

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Arcane Power was literally just purple sweat on the Mage.

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I think Berserk just makes the Druid a little more red?

clear pulsar
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That is why plunderstorm is superior

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Any plunderers in chat?

grand mesa
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Yeah I think if there’s a takeaway from plunder there’s something to be said about having less abilities that are more readable and individually more impactful. Just more accessible for folks and retains fun

clear pulsar
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Yeah thats just not a change thats gonna happen in wow anytime soon

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We're moving towards more ability bloat, not less

grand mesa
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Yeah I don’t expect as mu ch

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Especially with hero talents

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I didn’t play wod because I was mad they took away deep freeze

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So not sure how it felt when they did big prune

polar nymph
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It felt like trash

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Legion class design before your artifact weapon and legendaries got going felt so bad to play for me.

grand mesa
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I swear u could do that now currently

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Cause u can get real time hps and dps from details

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then u just logic

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If y press x

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I swear u could have made a wa for clean trades against SL RMP

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For all 3 players

polar nymph
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I'd also think there just wasn't as big of a demand for WA's in PvP because you didn't have Shuffle where no one communicates outside of picking a kill target and flaming the guy going 0 wins.

grand mesa
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I think the only legitimately OP thing I have is the party targetting bars. So I see who is lookng at my teammates on my raid frames in real time. So I see the mint tea, pink, and brown line all looking at @stray sigil ā€˜s dk ass raid frame and don’t have to guess who they’re looking at.

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Not like I need a wa to know they’re gonna look at the dk but that’s a whole diff thing

clear pulsar
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Thats as old as I've played wow at least

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BG addons have had that forever

grand mesa
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Yeah no clue why it wasn’t popularized in arena maybe it’s more of a Druid thing where I don’t want to hot wrong guy for swiftmend and other healers slightly more reactive. No clue

polar nymph
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Probably, I don't really need to track any particular buffs on teammates as HPriest.

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Mostly just OmniCD tracking the defensive abilities of my party that Symbol of Hope reduces when it comes to specific things for that healer.

random patrol
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this person btw I have that ui saved(I don't use it but tempting)

tardy hare
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Nice and condensed

clear pulsar
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@vestal citrus

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Easy W

random patrol
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@broken junco I think the color coding makes it actually more horrifying

grand mesa
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It’s beautiful

broken junco
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And so many of them

livid wasp
dreamy sierra
# clear pulsar We're moving towards more ability bloat, not less

I wonder how this will affect their eventual console port of WoW in the future. I know MANY think it's never going to happen but seeing how successful XIV has been with that market and people saying it'd never get ported to Xbox, it's got to have been brought up and thought about.

livid wasp
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does wow even get any new players, I am kinda doubtful about it getting any on consoles

safe heart
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wtf is XIV

dreamy sierra
clear pulsar
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I know many people that started in shadowlands or dragonflight

dreamy sierra
livid wasp
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hooly the burn in from wow on oled

dreamy sierra
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But I also realize wow wasn’t built from the ground floor with controllers in mind so a lot of would have to change

dreamy sierra
wanton ridge
dreamy sierra
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I just hope one day WoW has that ability, but like we’ve talked about I can’t even begin to fucking imagine controllers in PvP/m+

tropic schooner
livid wasp
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that quest list looks ridiculous

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wish there was a way to remove it completely

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havent found it

wanton ridge
livid wasp
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since when does kidney shot have more than melee range

late wraith
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Yo we’re back to arena zechey

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Plunder zechey is dead and gone

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trill or someone showed some clip or how you can use macros to kidney your focus and immediately step back to your target I dunno @velvet quest showed me I also thought it seemed unfair and crazy

livid wasp
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he was rooted and like kidneyed me at range

late wraith
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rooted? That I dunno about

gloomy nova
safe heart
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ah ok good to know

livid wasp
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maybe I need to give up jungle

safe heart
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i would yea

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like i would play jungle if it was available

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but i wouldnt play jungle if i also had a mage or devo available

tiny oar
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I'm going EU

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byebye NA

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we will queue next season zechers 🫔

livid wasp
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ok

clear fox
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maybe I boost a druid on eu

safe heart
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The ping is not worth it

clear fox
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I used to play sc2 on the kr sever from us east coast

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ill be fineeee

clear pulsar
safe heart
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if everytime i logged into wow i had 140ms, i would not play

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i get on the phone with my isp for that kinda latency

stray sigil
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any remix gamers ?

clear pulsar
late wraith
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face they're going to take plunder from us

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and then what 😦

stray sigil
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im farming for the leggo rn

clear pulsar
stray sigil
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wrong u remix with us

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and we get the cm mop sets

clear pulsar
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Can I jamp after then?

stray sigil
random patrol
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@tropic schooner good, mounts are the true endgame

clear fox
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Wonder how quick you could level

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wonder if I could farm up another 10-15 fresh druids in a trivial amount of time

safe heart
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what is this event

dreamy sierra
safe heart
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ill google

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gg go next

clear fox
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some pandaria leveling experience

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which overall good

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current fresh account leveling

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...weird

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I juust want a bunch of fresh mmr druids

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to terrorize the ladder

dreamy sierra
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Raid scroll buffs is insane

safe heart
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idk if this is worth not just paying booster for afk level tbh

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got my hopes up

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sounds like will still have to play the game

clear fox
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I guess just send cash money

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200k/char

safe heart
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200k??

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i never paid that much for a PL

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id rather send cash than play any day of the week

dreamy sierra
clear pulsar
safe heart
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i alt tab game in the middle of arenas

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fck it

livid wasp
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they really should make rdruid not able to multihot or decrease their range so they cant just sit at a pillar in china

clear fox
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Mhmm for sure

safe heart
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yo zechy

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did u ever try that thing

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where you like train the dps but then do goes on the rdruid

livid wasp
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good luck hes in china I would los healer insta

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thats why I died too

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and healer complained

clear pulsar
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@late wraith plunder??

late wraith
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naaaaur i'm working

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stop

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don't have fun

clear pulsar
livid wasp
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what is your goal

late wraith
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zechey i am about to harm you with some knowledge, i hope you're in a safe place to recieve this

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there is literally no goal we just log on and play it

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we play plunder on purpose with no objective

safe heart
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what the actual fuck?

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??

livid wasp
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I grinded it so I could get my win

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I got it now I feel im donme with it even though I still need 10 lvls

clear pulsar
livid wasp
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damn

late wraith
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i have 400k plunder i guess i'll try to hit 500k so i'm halfway to the achievement for next time it comes around

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when they take it from me i'm going to wail

stray sigil
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i still need to hit 40

random patrol
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looks like you can use bg blitz next season(for the 3 people actually playing season 4) to get vaults

grand mesa
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Where do u see this

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AHHHHH I NEED IT

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now if they put this in plunder I’d have been level 40 before I left for China pain

tropic schooner
tropic schooner
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a solid mog

grand mesa
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Yes

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and they said pvp got no content

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We love looking as stupid as possible and they just gave us a new uniform

random patrol
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cause wowhead isn't the only dataminer

late wraith
tropic schooner
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now?

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Im busy you are too late

clear pulsar
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Never plunder

tropic schooner
haughty compass
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Do I need to dust off Druid for that mop challenge mode set šŸ‘€

clear pulsar
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If there are cm recolors

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Cuz I wanted to give a dif class a go

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But if I need to go full druid for cm mog I'll do it

haughty compass
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Yea it’s an interesting idea and I’m curious for sure

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Mop only expac I didn’t play, and that Druid set gave me so much fomo. Best in the game imo

clear pulsar
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Not sure I'm gonna be leveling multiple characters tho

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Touch grass

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No

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Just ppl chatting

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You need help

wanton ridge
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It's cool that you can get the achieves/xmogs/mounts just by doing some of the stuff, no need to go hardcore etc

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"complete 1 of the following: " and one of those is the storyline lol

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tuning?

dreamy sierra
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Monk mains that didn't play MoP just drooling over this event

late wraith
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Wrong you had to roll on a barrel

tiny oar
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MOP LEVELLING SO BIS LETS GOOO

late wraith
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You also had to stand at a gate and wait for the longest rp ever for it to open after doing an annoying mini game so like? No mechanics? Did you even play it? Jeez

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you also had to launch yourself onto a big bug while the rest of your team did nothing

late wraith
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Not like glyph who only does huge brain mechanics

grand mesa
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Fuck LFG just implement true solo queue into same pool of players. Skip the LFG step lmao

gaunt flare
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guys

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its current patch in MOP

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not MOP talents

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so balancing gonna be whack

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every class available even evokers

tiny oar
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yea legendary sign me up

late wraith
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Truuuuue

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Mechanics are for dps and healers I’m a tank baby

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Hit me with all the shit it’s everyone else’s problem

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Oh a thing didn’t get interrupted? Stop staring at meters drooling and do your jobs. Not my problem.

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Being a tank really is the best vibe in the game

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Yeah but they deserve punishment

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For choosing that

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Like they chose it and that’s on them

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i’m a bear I just do my dopey little dps and top the healing meter by simply existing

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No shot I’m not try harding on a bear get real

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I’m gonna do enough so people don’t go ā€œhmm this tank’s damage is really lowā€ or ā€œthis tank barely kicked anythingā€ but not enough so people expect anything

velvet quest
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im pre-lobbing u from my m+ team

late wraith
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Lol no way

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It’s cause you’re dying I never do damage

velvet quest
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beavs lets get keystone master title and quit pve s4

late wraith
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So this is old news you shouldn’t be worked up over old shit

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Your pal pumps put out the new guardian guide and it said cat weaving in the title and I was like girl no one has to be trying that hard on a bear be real

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We pick bear for the lowered expectations

dreamy sierra
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Thought man do they not realize bear tanks enjoy the vibe of being bear and not cat weaving. It’s fun for healing because there are down times with resto but fuck that for bear.

late wraith
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Raid down time is me time

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I space out and look at what everyone else is doing

dreamy sierra
late wraith
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The only time I shift is when I do it accidentally cause I tried to send my little free heal and it expired already so now I’m an elf

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And I’m screaming and the healer is screaming and it’s like everyone calm down

dreamy sierra
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Man. Actually love the idea. This is gonna be amusing to watch.

late wraith
velvet quest
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Where does it tank on your iq list for tanks that care about their tank ilvl parse but somehow die 10 times a night cause they haven’t figured out a taunt swap after 200 pulls?

late wraith
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Try and make me do good dps I won’t

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no one can stop me from being a rat

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Me getting a blue parse: huehuehue

grand mesa
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lol I’ve seen some of pumps logs in SL he was in cat like 90% of a fight too lol

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There’s def a middle ground

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Obv just parsing but

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yeah and I think where you’re progging that’s necessary to squeeze water out of a rock to meet damage

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I think healer and tank damage matter more in keys

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Tbf

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for any garden variety CE guild I think just not being dumb and fighting nerfed bosses kinda passes a lot of timers

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RWL is different imo. Think most guilds have more than a few stud dps and a few folks who are lost. Not sure about RWL

tiny oar
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catweaving as a bear was the funniest part of tanking my emerald nightmare prog

edgy shale
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puzzle never press Sunfire real

grand mesa
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Idk I was always zdps until we missed a check and I got mad that we missed on nerfed boss. Then I did whatever dumbass damage an rdruid could do lmao.

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sunfire is expensive as fuck fuck no

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Moonfire tho

tiny oar
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moonfire is lit

edgy shale
late wraith
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Hey glyph you might not like it but this is what peak performance looks like

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@vestal citrus

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You like my Dps parses?

dreamy sierra
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I haven’t really looked into the mechanics of cat weaving but I dunno. I think a good portion of bear players like it because they can vibe out and just bear. They take the hits and just zone out to music, it’s not like playing BrM where you have 30 buttons to hit like playing DDR

tiny oar
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idk I think players should be rewarded with more dmg for more complex or engaging gameplay but that's just me

dreamy sierra
tiny oar
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u wanna chill in bear all fight and do 10k dps that's fine but weaving should be some value higher than that for sure

dreamy sierra
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Alpha/beta can’t come soon enough

grand mesa
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raid kinda different cause there are times u swap and ur off tanking anywya

late wraith
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I didn’t read the article I assumed he meant raids you cat weave

velvet quest
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i agree, i feel like as a dh in pvp my ability to properly utilize soulscar uptime makes it one of the highest skill cap specs so when im really blasting i dont understand when people act like its a braindead rotation

late wraith
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How the fuck would you cat weave with things hitting you

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Don’t answer it earnestly because I legit will never do it lol

dreamy sierra
grand mesa
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Idk I didn’t read the article either someone just mentioned cat in keys

late wraith
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I dunno I just assumed he was talking about raid stuff

grand mesa
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Absolute stereotypical wow andies rn. Dying on hills about an article none of us read

tiny oar
grand mesa
dreamy sierra
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We all talking about it and didn’t even read the article hahahahaha

late wraith
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HAHAHAH

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i mean I didn’t die on a hill I wouldn’t have died on regardless

grand mesa
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All I know is I did boomyvoke a fair bit and every time I called it out a good 20% of the time afterwards was ā€œoopsā€

velvet quest
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ig some dungeon bosses have little intermissions where they dont do anything to tanks but idr if any of them last long enough that youd wanna be a cat and blast

grand mesa
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after that I just bear voke and accept the 7 ironfur stacks I didn’t need

dreamy sierra
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Where’s @wanton ridge, he reads shit unlike us clearly

late wraith
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No I like it better this way

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I don’t want anyone to read us I want us to discuss it at length

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Without reading it

dreamy sierra
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Hahahaha

late wraith
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This is the level of chaotic I’ve missed

clear pulsar
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Boomyvoke was

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I mean if you were for some reason stuck playing night fae... I guesssssssss

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But it was ass

grand mesa
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yeah I mean S1 it was the obv pick

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Boomkin in raid

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And stuff

dreamy sierra
grand mesa
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I just accepted being a venthyr bear in s2. Which honestly didn’t feel bad either

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And then obv s2.5 was cov switching I was finally able to pvp and yall have been stuck with me ever since

clear pulsar
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I need SL s1 to come back

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So puzzle can fuck back off to pve

late wraith
tiny oar
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WADTF

clear pulsar
late wraith
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Wait not because of puzzle

tiny oar
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NO SHADLOWLANDS PLEASE

grand mesa
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I got the itch to m raid ngl

late wraith
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I just liked nathria

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And shadowlands was a good expansion people are wild

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Imagine thinking shadowlands was bad but legion was good lol. Lmao.

grand mesa
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I view SL pvp more charitably

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def

tiny oar
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SOME PPL HERE WOULD PLAY SHADOWLANDS CLASSIC AND IT SHOWS

clear pulsar
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It's a fair good race for worst expansion I've played

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Between SL and BFA

grand mesa
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systems were bad but the pace and gameplay felt better than DF which has far superior systems

velvet quest
tiny oar
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I am loving dragonflight (I didnt play the first two seasons)

wanton ridge
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so close

clear pulsar
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Dang

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I was plundering alone this whole itme

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Oxez hates me

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Good b

grand mesa
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Surprised ur not 40 Oxez

clear pulsar
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I'm in my john mayer era it's joever for taylor swift

grand mesa
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You were posting a string of chicken dinners on day 1

wanton ridge
late wraith
grand mesa
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U we’re an entire kfc restaurant

tiny oar
late wraith
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if they announced that the mop thing was a shadowlands thing i would piss

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(Excitedly)

grand mesa
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he’s only played 2 that’s the joke

tiny oar
late wraith
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TRAITOR?

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WOW?

velvet quest
clear pulsar
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Excited peeing is def a vibe

grand mesa
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but also WW was nuts in m+

late wraith
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everyone shut up about wow

tiny oar
late wraith
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liking john mayer is illegal

tiny oar
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yo john mayer is a vibe dont hate on face @late wraith

velvet quest
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idk who john mayer is

clear pulsar
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Arrest me

late wraith
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what one is it

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is it why georgia?

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that one kinda slaps

clear pulsar
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Slow dancing in a burning room

late wraith
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he is unfortch good at singing and guitar

velvet quest
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oh i know who this guy is nvm. he does residentsleeper music

random patrol
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@tiny oar Oribos best capital city

dreamy sierra
tiny oar
grand mesa
#

Nightcore kinda goated

velvet quest
#

wtf its 300 bpm techno not nitecore

dreamy sierra
random patrol
#

nightcore can be good but often is just chipmunks there are some good ones though

velvet quest
#

i listen to jpc full focus playlist cause i wanna be a giga gamer like jpctheman_

grand mesa
#

Nightcore + nostalgic music like 2000s punk rock = tears

tiny oar
grand mesa
#

oribos was an airport terminal

late wraith
#

i love shadowlands

#

but the maw and oribos have got to go

random patrol
#

circle > all other cities

late wraith
#

they have to be chucked

tiny oar
clear pulsar
late wraith
#

it was a bad circle though you couldn't mount in some of it

#

like why

#

why georgia why

random patrol
grand mesa
dreamy sierra
#

I actually loved that addon that tracked how many circles you did in Oribos.

grand mesa
#

And such dogshit

late wraith
#

puzzle

grand mesa
#

I stopped getting loss in like 9.2

late wraith
#

i rage quit boomy for the season

#

it's over

grand mesa
#

Always went the wrong way

clear pulsar
#

Puzzle hates new jersey confirmed

late wraith
#

i had to go lay down

velvet quest
#

cya tomorrow in the arena

late wraith
#

no for the season

#

we're done

#

no

dreamy sierra
random patrol
#

in fact I would put Oribos as the best thing from sl right next to torghast

grand mesa
#

it’s ok new season in like 10 days

late wraith
#

i can't do it to myself it's awful

#

every lobby is a warrior?

velvet quest
#

wrong, not every lobby is a warrior

#

some lobbies

#

2 warriors

late wraith
#

yes

#

some was 2

grand mesa
#

@vestal citrus u think boomkins are actually gonna get their wish and have the tier set that was actually played in s1 and not nerfed in s2

late wraith
#

and my give a fuck sort of collapsed in on itself like a beautiful dying star

#

so i just started getting mad

grand mesa
#

I see tettles lobbying on twitter

tiny oar
#

dont get mad beavs it's okay it's just a silly little video game and we'll all be in the dirt in 80 years nothing matters so u can be anything u want to be it's all fine

grand mesa
#

@late wraith be a lovely firemage and do 40-50% of your damage from ignite instead

wanton ridge
grand mesa
#

šŸ‘

wanton ridge
#

i guess if you were horde it was an upgrade over the pyramid maybe

late wraith
clear pulsar
late wraith
#

also my rogue

grand mesa
#

Fuck boralus I get lost

edgy shale
#

yeah nothing you do matters at all ur just ognna be in the dirt soon enough isn't that a lovely thought

late wraith
#

me and mayo are going to be double rogue 2s and it's going to be miserable

random patrol
#

I voted for season 1 set just to spite boomies

tiny oar
#

double rogue 2s players are a blight on society

grand mesa
#

dbl hunter

#

Dbl sniper shot aimed shot rapid fire

edgy shale
#

double hekili

late wraith
tiny oar
late wraith
#

in the top 10 guild?

#

yeah i know

#

i know about that

#

the thing is i'm in an aotc guild for dads?

#

and so if i just stand there and smile

#

and take a beating

#

it's all good

#

okay but i wanted you to see it

#

oh yeah i mean

#

sure

#

hey taht means there's a shot for me

#

you're saying i could be a top 20 tank

edgy shale
#

id still rather have that than a tank who tries to be a chad dpser and is using dps trinkets but DIES

late wraith
#

but do the bare minimum that's what you just said

edgy shale
#

its like goddam do ur job TANK its to TANK

grand mesa
#

If we’re choosing both ends of the extremes

late wraith
#

hey here's my submission to your guild please forward it

grand mesa
#

I want the person who stays in tank and watches Netflix on second monitor inbetween swaps

#

then the guy on adderall trying to parse 100 and flops in cat

late wraith
#

i'm am also my raid lead for the dad guild

edgy shale
#

in my guild one of the tanks on our smolderon kill had a literal 0 parse for healing and 99 for damage

late wraith
#

so that is my excuse

edgy shale
#

im just like..wat

#

ig he lived so its chad, but sometimes he didn't

velvet quest
#

not to brag but i was in a US top 1200 guild but i got kicked for being too based

random patrol
#

catweaving bears in pvp sometimes better then actual cats

velvet quest
#

sry voodoo wrong channel we're talking pve here

random patrol
#

I talk about whatever I want

dreamy sierra
random patrol
#

soon we will all be plunder pirates

velvet quest
#

no i made a tier list of how bad i think the people in my raid were and they took it bad for some reason

random patrol
#

playing plunderstorm while hottub streaming

edgy shale
#

thats never gone wrong

#

people love tier lists

late wraith
velvet quest
#

yeah tier lists are good content i thought theyd enjoy it

edgy shale
#

someone who quit my guild this tier did that after we killed tindral. I was S- minus like a badass

#

i said minus twice

late wraith
#

extra minus for pod it makes sense

dreamy sierra
#

My brain just broke thinking what S- minus would be on a tier list

grand mesa
#

Pod get me into your guild 11.0

edgy shale
wanton ridge
#

Renown 40 it is done, ended with 5 wins I think, one or two of those were with beavs and face carrying me lol

edgy shale
#

u need to join room forty dudes

grand mesa
#

I dont want to overtime raid at 8am on a Saturday

wanton ridge
#

Puzzle my guild is on fyrakk, we have issues getting 20, not looking good. Flashback to last tier, r.i.p.

grand mesa
#

Atleast ur not GM this time

#

Trying to hold it all together

wanton ridge
#

Yeah

grand mesa
#

how many guilds have killed at this point

#

Surely over 1k now ya?

edgy shale
#

dont u want 2 nights anyway, but u could app

#

934

#

gonna be lowest CEs i've seen a long time i think

grand mesa
#

most recent low one was azshara?

wanton ridge
#

Yeah its been a rough tier for the average mythic guild

grand mesa
#

or was it jailer

#

I feel like jailer had alottt at the end

wanton ridge
#

they gutted him

#

fyrakk still had shit that kills the low WR guilds

grand mesa
#

We killed azshara the week of 8.3 and we were like 900

velvet quest
edgy shale
#

jailer had 1400

grand mesa
#

So azshara the lowest kill count most recently

grand mesa
crystal forge
edgy shale
#

tu wed thurs 6-9 PST

grand mesa
#

@velvet quest confession I drunkenly did the same thing in an officer meeting KEKW

#

Tier listed everyone

edgy shale
#

doing that in an officer meeting just sounds like the standard

grand mesa
#

like a tier list maker? Idk

#

throwing them on a tier list is kinda demeaning no? Maybe not

#

Obv I was S tier

velvet quest
#

not really, i put more effort into that tier list than most of them put into a season's worth of raid. if anything it shows i care about them

edgy shale
#

oh i didnt know u meant literal tier list maker thats kinda extra

#

i meant just tiering and shitting on ppl

#

and ye i remember to look at it, azshara had only like 900 kills

#

then n'zoth had 2600..jesus

grand mesa
#

Long tier

#

Bring it back

fallen sapphire
#

Druids of SoD. There are many non Druids corrupting the moonglade for their void mischief. We must clear them from the land to rebalance nature.

edgy shale
#

true

grand mesa
#

I remember why I don’t play sod

cold bay
broken junco
#

Go outside and touch some real nature

random patrol
paper horizon
grand mesa
#

Bring your own beer?

livid wasp
#

sod players are saner than pure vanilla players tho

safe heart
#

id love a fresh classic server

#

shit i keep flinching on making a shadow priest on the original one

cerulean talon
#

cant find the boomie pvp guide

#

is it pinneed?

gloomy nova
#

buff reactive resin

#

or i rage

clear fox
#

just dont play it lel

nova pulsar
#

If some high XP boomy interested in a glad carry for gold between now and end of ssn. Carry is a 2.3 ww (my wife), I would heal it (#1 SS prevoker)

stray sigil
velvet quest
#

yeah thats sus i think u want a high exp frost dk instead

late wraith
#

Hey we know one of those!

#

@stray sigil

#

For real though I would ask in rudar’s discord. Notes would probably do it @nova pulsar

stray sigil
nova pulsar
#

@beavs thanks try that route !

late wraith
#

Lmk if you need link to it

nova pulsar
#

I do

late wraith
#

Sent

gaunt flare
livid wasp
#

pity win

#

why not man up and learn to dodge every lava smash and tryhard to win

tropic schooner
#

we will never understand them

gaunt flare
#

ill give up 500 plunder so someone can get their first win anyday

#

plus most people who dont have it by now just want the achieve

stray sigil
#

E os gurišŸš€šŸ
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
#montadinhasdaquebrada #hondabrasil #motorforte #caboenrolado #caboenroladors #osguri #motorzao #montadinhas #montadinhas_hrc #somotorzao #motocross #motocycle #motorzaoparana #cgtitan #cb #campomourao #cg150titan #fuƧadas #hondamotos #244naoecrime #pista #motos #fucadasbrasil #motorcycles

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@clear pulsar

late wraith
#

@clear pulsar plunder stats!

#

the most popular loadout is the worst loadout i have ever seen lord above.

#

fire whirl and rime? girl what? are you good?

livid wasp
#

tarantula most deadly enemy?

#

how

#

ive not died to npcs yet closest has been in mines when ive pulled the whole place

velvet quest
# late wraith fire whirl and rime? girl what? are you good?

It makes sense, those are the easiest buttons to use. I bet stats for most popular loadout for winners is way different but every lobby if you think about it probably half of them are like zechey and have no chance at winning and they’re grabbing stuff that they like using like fire whirl and rime

#

And also like I mentioned a few weeks ago I bet there’s people who learned day 1 that fire whirl is rly strong and never read wowhead so they just never knew it got nerfed 5 times

late wraith
#

true

clear pulsar
velvet quest
#

We had a convo rly early on where I was like it would be funny if blizzard keeps track of stuff like ability loadouts and sees how their numbers change over time even when they completely gut or giga buff something to see how fast meta shifts and what % of player base is completely oblivious to things like that

late wraith
#

rime for sure

clear pulsar
#

Yeah I think the stats are prob being carried by first week or 2

#

When it was just better

wanton ridge
late wraith
#

lol is it trill?

safe heart
#

Zechey can u play last epoch with me

#

Or diablo 2 resurrected

#

I will give you one (1) enigma

livid wasp
#

sounds boring

safe heart
#

What the fuck

#

Last epoch is very fun

#

As a dad gamer I am becoming fond of the arpg genre

tropic schooner
safe heart
#

Ent you wanna play last epoch with me and zechy

tropic schooner
#

no

safe heart
#

What the CLUCKKKKKKKK

velvet quest
#

I’d play last epoch with you and zechey and ent

safe heart
#

Ent and zechy both said they're down

#

I will DJ in the discord channel I made for us

tropic schooner
safe heart
#

Fuji you wanna join ?

#

I have room

#

Mayo ent zechy and me will be playing

stray sigil
#

for last epoch ?

safe heart
#

Yeah scroll up

velvet quest
#

I heard lake is also gonna be playing with us

stray sigil
tiny oar
broken junco
#

Isn't that a game for kids

#

That's hella sus

random patrol
#

whelp my 3s team called it for the season

#

rough one

grand mesa
#

Suck man there’s always next season

random patrol
#

eh happens

#

new ui actually fucked me up to

#

like I do bad with change

#

1973 around 40 points below our peak

random patrol
#

lopsided cooldown bar

random patrol
#

should note did hit 2011 in 3s last week so not bad for the first serious season of pushing 3s also were still doing 2s

safe heart
#

Are u boomie

grand mesa
#

Good evening friends

tiny oar
grand mesa
#

Evening lakes! It’s almost 9pm here. We dropped kid off at her grandmas hotel room and were out drinking šŸ˜‡

tiny oar
livid wasp
#

feral deva feels like garbage idk why people say its better than jungle

safe heart
#

Because if you're having a bad time then the devo is blasting and if they're going him your clone for free

livid wasp
#

well he isnt killing shit

safe heart
#

Then he's prob bad

#

Devo does holocaust dmg

#

You probably just need to stun everything and micro healer all day

#

Clone off sleep

clear fox
#

But that’s the same dr lol

#

Oh but

#

Wild attune

livid wasp
#

god its such a garbage comp

safe heart
#

I wanna play it

#

Trying to avoid sleep and cyclone as a healer sounds like a nightmare

#

And you'll get caught in one eventually

#

Cyclone off sleep. Then you could leap bash too and just micro him forever while devo blasts

livid wasp
#

just hug a pillar

#

not hard to avoid

haughty compass
safe heart
#

Can't just hug pillar all game
Your team is gunna die

livid wasp
#

just stand at the pillar and when you see feral come for clone, either use kick or put grounding down or run to los

#

easy

#

THIS COMP IS SO BAD

#

WHY DO PEOPLE SAY ITS GOOD

safe heart
#

Idk

velvet quest
#

zechey post dmg meter

livid wasp
#

in the game we lost he did 64k I did 44k

#

spriest demo

random patrol
#

"plays boomy, ret, disc"

livid wasp
#

nothing we can do against ww dh

#

cloning against them doesnt help

#

they really should buff cyclone its so hard to get off for no reward

velvet quest
#

no reward, so true

livid wasp
#

you lose so much dmg doing nothing spending half of the game trying to cast cyclone

#

against million kicks and micro ccs

#

for a 6 second shit cc

velvet quest
#

if cyclone is a shit cc can u list some good cc?

livid wasp
#

kidney shot

#

fear

#

psychic scream

grand mesa
#

you think cyclone is shit?

velvet quest
#

ok and what makes those 3 cc better than cyclone?

livid wasp
#

fear super short cast other ccs instant

velvet quest
#

is fear even a shorter cast time than cyclone? u can also play full haste if u really wanted but i dont think thatll change ur opinion of cyclone

#

also no shot ur saying psychic scream which is dispellable and breaks on dmg and requires near melee range and has a cd is better than cyclone lol

#

zechey i feel like u should play shadow priest since it has good cc and u dont have to fake cast so much

livid wasp
#

rarely because people dont get fakecasted

#

or they kick insta

#

its such a shit thing, precog

#

having to rely on people being bad and getting fakecasted

velvet quest
#

a lot of players kick the same way throughout a game, so if someone is insta kicking next time u can try to do an early fake

#

and if someone doesnt get fake casted just finish ur first cast

#

also u could just not play precog, for someone like you i think its getting very little value

grand mesa
#

I think a lot of people are late kickers now so I’ve found success juking at like 90% cast. Better than constantly juking early casts and the guy is like yeah I’m not kicking until it’s almost done keep CCing yourself

velvet quest
#

one of the funniest things is seeing a feral try to fake cast 4 times in a row and i never kick and now theyre 30% health and run away in bear

livid wasp
#

its such a shit design

#

cyclone should be instant

clear pulsar
#

Same as clone

clear pulsar
grand mesa
#

All lock specs stack haste so that’s probably why it seems faster

clear pulsar
#

Tbf

#

Fear doesnt give them a free fire rift

clear pulsar
#

But it's so comfy being a whiny little bitch that thinks everything else is OP when you only play your one spec

#

I don't think he wants to stop being bitch boy

velvet quest
#

yeah spriest would be perfect for him cause it would be such a vibe when ret warr is running him down but he can easily self peel by fearing them both off him anytime they connect

clear pulsar
#

Forget ret warr

tropic schooner
#

yea no

#

I think shadow is probably the worst possible option for zechey

velvet quest
#

no spoilers guys

#

i wanna watch him get a clean double fear off with one of the best cc in the game, then the warrior berserker rages and the ret gets dispelled and theyre both back on him a second later. and then he uses his root thing but the ret freedoms the warrior and now hes dispersing and tabbing over to discord to type about how broken freedom is

tropic schooner
#

also the fear of not being able to cast

#

for like 20seconds

#

cause one kick insta dead

grand mesa
#

Warriors talent for the aoe serker rage too

tropic schooner
#

or trying to kite on shadow

livid wasp
#

idk why rogues can do so much dmg in stuns

#

their stuns should break with enough dmg

#

makes no sense they can 100-0 in one duel

velvet quest
#

yeah stuns should break with enough damage i agree. just like fears and incaps and cyclones

haughty compass
grand mesa
#

Bro when I played ele it was bad

#

I’ll help kick!

#

Precog every 12s

haughty compass
#

Me in a cyclone all game

grand mesa
haughty compass
grand mesa
#

@livid wasp nerf maim. It’s just like kidney

livid wasp
#

I really hate this cyclone playstyle

#

so shit

late wraith
#

I’ve learned how to bait precog just in time for them to maybe take it away I dunno who can tell

livid wasp
#

I can get it off but not every time

random patrol
#

when you get precog cause u used warstomp

livid wasp
#

its so unfair how easy the game is for some people

#

I guess the same people are the ones who wonder why some people dont just become doctors

grand mesa
#

Or he just plays the casters that have like 3 schools lol

clear pulsar
#

An instanter

grand mesa
#

Instanter is also a wonderful role to play in the world of Warcraft

livid wasp
#

heaelrs always hate me for leaving when I end up in 2v2 situation

#

I cant play 2s what can I do about it

grand mesa
#

Why wouldn’t you play out a 2v2 cause u cross kill

livid wasp
#

feral like the worst 2v2 class

#

this one was against rdruid frost mage too

stray sigil
grand mesa
late wraith
clear pulsar
# grand mesa ????

Feral just has a really hard time vs mages nothing you can do about it

late wraith
#

Face we plonder later?

stray sigil
#

or vs anything rly

late wraith
#

we plongerboys?

stray sigil
clear pulsar
#

I'm up for plonder ye

#

Had plans tonight but big raining

late wraith
#

Oofa

clear pulsar
#

The city has a bit of a flooding issue

stray sigil
grand mesa
#

what will the capybaras do

clear pulsar
stray sigil
late wraith
#

I still have work and I gotta eat but later we pirate

#

Fuji come plunder with us

stray sigil
clear pulsar
#

They omega swimmers

late wraith
#

We’ll q into you it’ll be on sight

grand mesa
#

I actually had no clue no

late wraith
#

On sight with you too

grand mesa
#

I didn’t even know those things existed until taxes tried a lame joke that said I was capping

stray sigil
clear pulsar
#

They're like alternate universe aligators that way

#

Basically an alligator

late wraith
#

Look at him

grand mesa
#

They look like menaces the flower pedals are a red herring

late wraith
#

In his little pond

#

Living his little life

stray sigil
#

biggest rat

#

ive ever seen

#

burn it

livid wasp
#

why does this game have to be like this

late wraith
#

Like what specifically

livid wasp
#

so hard to play

#

ive played it half my life

late wraith
#

Time to play something else for the next half

livid wasp
#

wish I was good like snupy

grand mesa
#

Zechey I support you

#

Keep fighting the good fight

livid wasp
#

endless flight

#

fight

#

I tried playing with deva tonight it just felt like shit worse than jungle

grand mesa
#

I’m surprised u had problems with deva feral

#

every deva feral I see on stream just seems like war crimes damage lol

livid wasp
#

idk how

#

I wish blizz removed arena so I didnt have to think about this anymore

grand mesa
#

just uninstall lol

livid wasp
#

nah it would be on the back of my mind forever

#

good thing about plunder is you can just go next

#

in arena you queue then you get some deva flaming you for not cloning enough

#

then he ditches and you have to lfg for another hour

#

idk why I cant just be good at feral

#

other ones seem to be spamming clone and goiong 2.4k with that

clear pulsar
#

Arms is highest skill cap spec in the game

velvet quest
#

Zechey doesn’t have the right mental to be a warrior

#

He could be a havoc maybe

clear pulsar
#

Affliction

livid wasp
#

if they just redesigned feral to not require R1 skills to be 2.4k+

safe heart
#

Yo fearl pumps

velvet quest
#

Remember that one time he said it was time for him to make an alt cause feral is too bad and squishy. And his first choice was dk

clear pulsar
#

Maybe unholy

#

It matches his vibe

velvet quest
#

If we’re going purely based on matching vibe I think he should just play whatever nahj is on

safe heart
#

Zechy is him

random patrol
#

need to find a new ret for ret, boomy, disc

grand mesa
stray sigil
haughty compass
#

Zechey play guardian

livid wasp
#

how do I become pro at feral

clear pulsar
#

Accept your reality

random patrol
#

guardian, aug, disc

#

do it

#

before I have to do it

tiny oar
random patrol
#

@tiny oar good name for the comp

tiny oar
#

if u play tank in arena I will come to ur house and kick ur monitor with my docs dont try it

random patrol
#

if your playing tank to be a sadist it's fine in my book

grand mesa
#

@livid wasp have you tried rewatching and seeing what ferals did to beat you and then idk…do that instead

haughty compass
#

zechey i bet you're pretty good

grand mesa
#

He is

#

That’s what’s funny about all of this

random patrol
#

another rough q session

#

oh well

#

live die q again

grand mesa
#

Rock solid mental fortress

random patrol
#

when boomy ret 3s

#

got to do the weed

#

going to try aff boomy dot soon

#

maybe it will work Idk

#

bright side won't need to clone as much

#

biggest prob I have I suck at clones

#

need to get them down better

haughty compass
#

if only my dk buddy played dh

#

we cuold do dh.moonkin.pres

clear fox
#

I can find an rando evening for end of season if you do for a quick 2.1 glory run

random patrol
#

@clear fox mostly dps

#

I have 0 consitent dps partners

#

went through like 4 this week

#

best one has been the rest ironicly

livid wasp
tiny oar
#

flopped like a dog

#

OOPS

tiny oar
#

eu druid is LOOKING STRONG

grand mesa
tiny oar
tiny oar
#

epic

grand mesa
#

Hahaha

#

Assa fucks

tiny oar
grand mesa
#

how is Trevor getting styled so hard

#

That guy is doing 4x his damage

tiny oar
grand mesa
#

Idk sounds like player issue it’s not like the ele’s healer was druid

tiny oar
#

the ele was like

#

frost shock freezing on cd lol

grand mesa
#

What rating

tiny oar
#

2100 mmr

grand mesa
#

Love to see it

#

LOL

#

I’ll always root for the ele

#

Get fucked melee

tiny oar
#

lolllllll

static steeple
#

Are fistweaver and presvoker lobbies supposed to be hard for druid?

gloomy nova
livid wasp
#

gl beating decent fw melee cleave as feral

gaunt flare
#

YAY! šŸ™‚

late wraith
#

Germ there was a guy named gameslol in a lobby and my brain seized up I thought it was you so I yelled hi to him and then we became friends in the next lobby lol

clear pulsar
#

It was real cute

livid wasp
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feral deva is shit ill have these words on my grave

late wraith
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But a nice one!

livid wasp
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every session I play I can play like 5 games until I start to get tilted from all the clone attempts and being kicked and stopped while being focused its so aids

late wraith
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Do you run precog?

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I never know if ferals run that like it’s such a caster thing

livid wasp
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oh yes I run precog, even if I fakecast theres a million different things in the game to stop me from getting a clone

late wraith
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They really did such weird shit with ferals

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Yeah I hear ya. Precog doesn’t mean anything if they stun you

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or attempting to bait

livid wasp
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nah they cant cc me btu they can ground it, los it, ams it

late wraith
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While their rip you apart

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No I mean trying to bait and then they stun you.

livid wasp
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dhs can easily avoid it

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that too

late wraith
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Sometimes I get the precog just after the stun

livid wasp
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its so freaking aids im getting cancer from it

late wraith
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Because one of the clowns interrupts into the stun

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And it’s like lol. Good game.

gaunt flare
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playing as feral = miserable
playing against feral = miserable

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thanks blizzard

late wraith
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Yeah they really made it so miserable lol

livid wasp
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and im supposed to be doing that shit all game, keeping them dred from clone

late wraith
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Yeah I think that must have gotten harder with all the fw melee groups around now? I dunno if you’re seeing that at your rating but 1800-2100 in 3s is like arms warrior every single matchup now. I just run and cc its extremely unfun

livid wasp
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havent even faced any fws tonight

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like I dont mind feral being difficult but this clone thing is so frustrating makes me wanna break everything at some point every night

late wraith
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Fw aren’t as common still as rdruid but arms are everywhere and fw with arms feels so toxic and annoying

livid wasp
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yeah I know its really hard as jungle

late wraith
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Just think zechey jungle will rise again and you’ll skyrocket to r1

livid wasp
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maybe I should just settle with 2.1k being my goal each season and then spend the rest of the time farming bgs

livid wasp
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im poor

velvet quest
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That’s good it means the stuff you break will be cheap to replace

livid wasp
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haha! good point!

clear pulsar
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Mayo math

livid wasp
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I got my stuff when I had a job

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now if I broke my keyboard id have to use my 20 euro logitech shit

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mouse would be trickier, cant get a wired mouse anymore

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breaking screen thats a nice -200

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or headphones thats a nice -100

late wraith
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Why am I always on these things lol

livid wasp
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The conversation revolves around frustrations with playing as a feral druid in a competitive gaming environment, particularly in facing numerous obstacles and disruptions while attempting to execute abilities like "clone." The conversation also touches on the prevalence of certain class compositions in the meta, such as melee-heavy groups, and the overall dissatisfaction with the current state of gameplay. There's a sense of shared frustration among the participants and a longing for better balancing and gameplay experiences.