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ty, the build you suggested works
people always said pvp is shittier than ever since cataclysm
its the same shit now as ever
People also shit on tbc PvP, wotlk PvP and cata PvP in its time
I bet they did
Theyre missing out on plunder
The real pvp of wow
Where my post reset plunderers at
Dang
Plunder is chill, not my favorite but a nice little vibey mini game to jump into
No fun allowed
Idk why I have to keep telling you all this

I dont believe it
Hey guys maybe someone can help me. I play heal druid only 2k mmr on 2s but i get most time so much dmg and not sure what i can do -.- i loose so much games cause of this and not sure how to improve
prolly best to post vods
My WoW friends are all on SoD or not on WoW at all right now š¦
I have no wow friends only arena colleagues
People ragged on MOP pvp in MOP lol
but now it was golden era of wow class design and gaming
Bring back mop talents
no if you /pat or whatever and you don't have someone targetted it says this
same with /hug if you have someone targetted it says "beavs hugs zechey" but if i didn't have you targetted it would say "beavs need a hug"
I know but if they changed it in arena or bgs that it always does it like nobodys targetted
I use /pity and /pulse I donāt use any others except special occasions for people who deserve something more personal š
what about the good old t
t-bag
sigh
whats the point of arena cant get 2.4k
why do I spend time on this
to feel good about myself by beating other players
Random BGs gg
I did that for years, not enough anymore
I unsubbed today
There is no point
If u can't get glad imo
None of the rewards have any clout besides the mount so why sufferr
my sub runs out in 1 month too, will see if I cba with the new season
or take a break till ww
I hope to god feral wont be a clonebot in ww
Ur gunna unsub zechy so it won't matter
Idk I just like pressing the buttons and it feels good š¤·āāļø
@safe heart @livid wasp would u guys enjoy playing even if thereās no rating at all
Actually curious
I find that so interesting cause Iām just not wired that way but I guess Iām pretty sure Iām def in the minority
I mean
Basically pvp is fun if I'm winning and infuriating if I losing and there's almost no middle ground
And it's not evenly split
It's like if 0 is baseline , I win and I'm +10
But if I lose I'm -70
And that +10 will go up to maybe 20 or 30 if I win bigly
Like 15-2 sesh
It's fun to beat players but the thing is is that if the game mode has no respect then it feels pointless
Like I would never pvp in diablo 2 cuz they literally just do it for fun
Yea but imagine glad has the same clout as like rbgs
No one cares about rbgs
Even if ur r1 rbger
I like getting better donāt get me wrong. Or fighting better people. And in that sense the rating serves a purpose for better matchmaking. But idk if I ever care about the number itself
That new skill capped video was p good about discussing it
itās what we all knew but it broke down how DF became all about throughput
That's why it feels pointless to play if u can't get glad
Cc duration nerfs made micro cc stronger. Class design followed what m+ requires so everything has become about cleave big throughput and just micro CC for enough disruption to score kills no matter how unclean the setup is
I think if they did (which they wonāt) kill addons and WAs for arenas then CDs have to be lowered considerably
donāt think people realize how much they rely on audio cues from mes wa at this point
Ie. The perfect trading youāre talking about
Healer cc wa pavlovs me into bear
I just donāt know how u can disable what players want taken out without just gutting addons entirely
Not being able to read auras or combat log
I just think thatās such an uninformed reductive take
Oh just turn it all off easy
Even cosmetic addons probably gonna too or stuff that doesnāt even do what theyāre bitching about lol
I've been playing like 4 other games that do pvp, wow is the only one that requires addons to see stuff that should be built in so until then addons can stay
Yeah the guys whoās formative years was tab targetting to kick a healer in 2004 was worthy of slow motion zoom in with the music drop
in their frag video
And shadow fury was instant back then lmao
I wish 90% of PvP players could express the issues with a problem in PvP without immediately jumping to either the most extreme opposite situation as an answer or wanting to go scorched earth on the game mode.
Blizzard have restricted the strength of addons like WeakAuras before without completely nuking them from existence.
Delete all addons is an insane solution to the question of the current strength of addons in PvP though.
And I keep seeing it being echoed.
I don't trust Blizzard to build a good default UI for Arena.
I mean letās be real. For Iād argue most players. The biggest benefit for mes WA and bigdebuffs on nameplates is that it trivializes that specific skill to parse icons on unit frames buffs/debuffs to recognize a player has pressed a CD or not and now has the respective buff. And thatās also a failing of blizz UI. I donāt think WAs for how a lot of people use it is particularly game breaking
It was a response to a lot of threatening buffs and debuffs not being visually distinct from others or even visible enough to people amidst everything else going on.
Also probably an indictment in how much bloat weāve incurred from just procs and talents and passives itself. You press blade dance once and 2 rows of debuffs show up on unitframes lmao
Yes
And plater
if you look at TBC gameplay in classic there were like 4-6 auras tops. Insanely readable
The readability of some cooldowns like Combustion vs others like Icy Veins is also incredibly inconsistent.
You can see it on your screen instantly when Combustion appears.
Spirit of Redemption too.
Idek if it has an animation Iāve never noticed anything that stood out
But stuff like Pain Suppression and Rapture aren't very noticeable.
Arcane Power was literally just purple sweat on the Mage.
I think Berserk just makes the Druid a little more red?
Yeah I think if thereās a takeaway from plunder thereās something to be said about having less abilities that are more readable and individually more impactful. Just more accessible for folks and retains fun
Yeah thats just not a change thats gonna happen in wow anytime soon
We're moving towards more ability bloat, not less
Yeah I donāt expect as mu ch
Especially with hero talents
I didnāt play wod because I was mad they took away deep freeze
So not sure how it felt when they did big prune
It felt like trash
Legion class design before your artifact weapon and legendaries got going felt so bad to play for me.
I swear u could do that now currently
Cause u can get real time hps and dps from details
then u just logic
If y press x
I swear u could have made a wa for clean trades against SL RMP
For all 3 players
I'd also think there just wasn't as big of a demand for WA's in PvP because you didn't have Shuffle where no one communicates outside of picking a kill target and flaming the guy going 0 wins.
I think the only legitimately OP thing I have is the party targetting bars. So I see who is lookng at my teammates on my raid frames in real time. So I see the mint tea, pink, and brown line all looking at @stray sigil ās dk ass raid frame and donāt have to guess who theyāre looking at.
Not like I need a wa to know theyāre gonna look at the dk but thatās a whole diff thing
Yeah no clue why it wasnāt popularized in arena maybe itās more of a Druid thing where I donāt want to hot wrong guy for swiftmend and other healers slightly more reactive. No clue
Probably, I don't really need to track any particular buffs on teammates as HPriest.
Mostly just OmniCD tracking the defensive abilities of my party that Symbol of Hope reduces when it comes to specific things for that healer.
this person btw I have that ui saved(I don't use it but tempting)
Nice and condensed
That's horror
@broken junco I think the color coding makes it actually more horrifying
Itās beautiful
Why does he have mounts on his action bars
And so many of them
I wonder how this will affect their eventual console port of WoW in the future. I know MANY think it's never going to happen but seeing how successful XIV has been with that market and people saying it'd never get ported to Xbox, it's got to have been brought up and thought about.
does wow even get any new players, I am kinda doubtful about it getting any on consoles
wtf is XIV
Itās so hard to say, as a PC player I would absolutely love a console port so I can play it on my couch with a controller though
I know many people that started in shadowlands or dragonflight
Final fantasy
hooly the burn in from wow on oled
But I also realize wow wasnāt built from the ground floor with controllers in mind so a lot of would have to change
Newer models of OLED burn in isnāt as big of a thing now
ability bloat is a thing in XIV too, but they have a nice controller setup that gives you almost an infinite number of buttons. Pretty sure wow "supports" controllers now, just not as well, and you prob still need addons
Yeah for sure! And that addon is amazing too, I think itās called consoleport, works great with enhancement shaman
I just hope one day WoW has that ability, but like weāve talked about I canāt even begin to fucking imagine controllers in PvP/m+
half of these are mounts 
that quest list looks ridiculous
wish there was a way to remove it completely
havent found it
drainer got r1 in shuffle playing with a controller, so it can work kek
since when does kidney shot have more than melee range
Yo weāre back to arena zechey
Plunder zechey is dead and gone
trill or someone showed some clip or how you can use macros to kidney your focus and immediately step back to your target I dunno @velvet quest showed me I also thought it seemed unfair and crazy
he was rooted and like kidneyed me at range
rooted? That I dunno about
Feral is fine if u play 3s with a mage
ah ok good to know
maybe I need to give up jungle
i would yea
like i would play jungle if it was available
but i wouldnt play jungle if i also had a mage or devo available
ok
The ping is not worth it
Boo hoo
if everytime i logged into wow i had 140ms, i would not play
i get on the phone with my isp for that kinda latency
Plunder?
I jamp
Can I jamp after then?
@tropic schooner good, mounts are the true endgame
Wonder how quick you could level
wonder if I could farm up another 10-15 fresh druids in a trivial amount of time
what is this event
All over wowhead and icyveins
some pandaria leveling experience
which overall good
current fresh account leveling
...weird
I juust want a bunch of fresh mmr druids
to terrorize the ladder
Raid scroll buffs is insane
idk if this is worth not just paying booster for afk level tbh
got my hopes up
sounds like will still have to play the game
200k??
i never paid that much for a PL
id rather send cash than play any day of the week
Reads like MoP Classic Lite
The mysery
they really should make rdruid not able to multihot or decrease their range so they cant just sit at a pillar in china
Mhmm for sure
yo zechy
did u ever try that thing
where you like train the dps but then do goes on the rdruid
good luck hes in china I would los healer insta
thats why I died too
and healer complained
@late wraith plunder??
It's not fun at this point it's a GRIND that IM BEING FORCED TO DO BY BLIZZARD
what is your goal
zechey i am about to harm you with some knowledge, i hope you're in a safe place to recieve this
there is literally no goal we just log on and play it
we play plunder on purpose with no objective
I grinded it so I could get my win
I got it now I feel im donme with it even though I still need 10 lvls
20 win streak
damn
i have 400k plunder i guess i'll try to hit 500k so i'm halfway to the achievement for next time it comes around
when they take it from me i'm going to wail
looks like you can use bg blitz next season(for the 3 people actually playing season 4) to get vaults
Where do u see this
AHHHHH I NEED IT
now if they put this in plunder Iād have been level 40 before I left for China 
plunder??
Yes
and they said pvp got no content
We love looking as stupid as possible and they just gave us a new uniform
NAAAAUR I SAID
she probably plunders alone
Do I need to dust off Druid for that mop challenge mode set š
I hope it's something you can do very easily or even buy every class mog from any character
If there are cm recolors
Cuz I wanted to give a dif class a go
But if I need to go full druid for cm mog I'll do it

Yea itās an interesting idea and Iām curious for sure
Mop only expac I didnāt play, and that Druid set gave me so much fomo. Best in the game imo
Not sure I'm gonna be leveling multiple characters tho
Touch grass
No
Just ppl chatting
You need help
It's cool that you can get the achieves/xmogs/mounts just by doing some of the stuff, no need to go hardcore etc
"complete 1 of the following: " and one of those is the storyline lol
tuning?

Monk mains that didn't play MoP just drooling over this event
Wrong you had to roll on a barrel
MOP LEVELLING SO BIS LETS GOOO
You also had to stand at a gate and wait for the longest rp ever for it to open after doing an annoying mini game so like? No mechanics? Did you even play it? Jeez
you also had to launch yourself onto a big bug while the rest of your team did nothing
Not like glyph who only does huge brain mechanics
Fuck LFG just implement true solo queue into same pool of players. Skip the LFG step lmao
guys
its current patch in MOP
not MOP talents
so balancing gonna be whack
every class available even evokers
yea legendary sign me up
Truuuuue
Mechanics are for dps and healers Iām a tank baby
Hit me with all the shit itās everyone elseās problem
Oh a thing didnāt get interrupted? Stop staring at meters drooling and do your jobs. Not my problem.
Being a tank really is the best vibe in the game
Yeah but they deserve punishment
For choosing that
Like they chose it and thatās on them
iām a bear I just do my dopey little dps and top the healing meter by simply existing
No shot Iām not try harding on a bear get real
Iām gonna do enough so people donāt go āhmm this tankās damage is really lowā or āthis tank barely kicked anythingā but not enough so people expect anything
im pre-lobbing u from my m+ team
beavs lets get keystone master title and quit pve s4
So this is old news you shouldnāt be worked up over old shit
Your pal pumps put out the new guardian guide and it said cat weaving in the title and I was like girl no one has to be trying that hard on a bear be real
We pick bear for the lowered expectations
Incredible how similar we think because I thought the exact same thing.
Thought man do they not realize bear tanks enjoy the vibe of being bear and not cat weaving. Itās fun for healing because there are down times with resto but fuck that for bear.
Exactly. Not gonna be shifting to and from cat so I can what? Try to pick up the slack for shitty dps? No, Iām good. My job is to sit here and survive.
The only time I shift is when I do it accidentally cause I tried to send my little free heal and it expired already so now Iām an elf
And Iām screaming and the healer is screaming and itās like everyone calm down
ššš now imagine come TWW when one of the lowest skill level tanks is purposely shifting into cat mid key
Man. Actually love the idea. This is gonna be amusing to watch.

Where does it tank on your iq list for tanks that care about their tank ilvl parse but somehow die 10 times a night cause they havenāt figured out a taunt swap after 200 pulls?
Try and make me do good dps I wonāt
no one can stop me from being a rat
Me getting a blue parse: 
lol Iāve seen some of pumps logs in SL he was in cat like 90% of a fight too lol
Thereās def a middle ground
Obv just parsing but
yeah and I think where youāre progging thatās necessary to squeeze water out of a rock to meet damage
I think healer and tank damage matter more in keys
Tbf
for any garden variety CE guild I think just not being dumb and fighting nerfed bosses kinda passes a lot of timers
RWL is different imo. Think most guilds have more than a few stud dps and a few folks who are lost. Not sure about RWL
catweaving as a bear was the funniest part of tanking my emerald nightmare prog
puzzle never press Sunfire real
Idk I was always zdps until we missed a check and I got mad that we missed on nerfed boss. Then I did whatever dumbass damage an rdruid could do lmao.
sunfire is expensive as fuck fuck no
Moonfire tho
moonfire is lit

Hey glyph you might not like it but this is what peak performance looks like
@vestal citrus
You like my Dps parses?
I havenāt really looked into the mechanics of cat weaving but I dunno. I think a good portion of bear players like it because they can vibe out and just bear. They take the hits and just zone out to music, itās not like playing BrM where you have 30 buttons to hit like playing DDR
idk I think players should be rewarded with more dmg for more complex or engaging gameplay but that's just me
Not wrong! I enjoy it for healing very much so Iāll see for bear
u wanna chill in bear all fight and do 10k dps that's fine but weaving should be some value higher than that for sure
Alpha/beta canāt come soon enough
I just think itās awkward to ask a tank to go into cat, in keys specifically. I didnāt like boomy voking for damage in keys either in SL
raid kinda different cause there are times u swap and ur off tanking anywya
I didnāt read the article I assumed he meant raids you cat weave
i agree, i feel like as a dh in pvp my ability to properly utilize soulscar uptime makes it one of the highest skill cap specs so when im really blasting i dont understand when people act like its a braindead rotation
How the fuck would you cat weave with things hitting you
Donāt answer it earnestly because I legit will never do it lol
Isnāt there like a bear aura that follows you when you shift or something again I didnāt read it because I was like fuck that
I dunno I just assumed he was talking about raid stuff
Absolute stereotypical wow andies rn. Dying on hills about an article none of us read
yea I would love a tree of guardian that makes cat form same tankiness and good aggro but probably wouldnt happen cuz you'd just be a feral druid at that point lol

We all talking about it and didnāt even read the article hahahahaha
All I know is I did boomyvoke a fair bit and every time I called it out a good 20% of the time afterwards was āoopsā
ig some dungeon bosses have little intermissions where they dont do anything to tanks but idr if any of them last long enough that youd wanna be a cat and blast
after that I just bear voke and accept the 7 ironfur stacks I didnāt need
Whereās @wanton ridge, he reads shit unlike us clearly
No I like it better this way
I donāt want anyone to read us I want us to discuss it at length
Without reading it
Hahahaha
This is the level of chaotic Iāve missed
It was ass too
Boomyvoke was
I mean if you were for some reason stuck playing night fae... I guesssssssss
But it was ass
lollllllll classic
Sometimes I get pissy with how someone responds to me on here and then this stuff comes up and I realize how moronic we all are at times
I just accepted being a venthyr bear in s2. Which honestly didnāt feel bad either
And then obv s2.5 was cov switching I was finally able to pvp and yall have been stuck with me ever since
Saaaaame
WADTF

Wait not because of puzzle
NO SHADLOWLANDS PLEASE
I got the itch to m raid ngl
I just liked nathria
And shadowlands was a good expansion people are wild
Imagine thinking shadowlands was bad but legion was good lol. Lmao.
SOME PPL HERE WOULD PLAY SHADOWLANDS CLASSIC AND IT SHOWS
systems were bad but the pace and gameplay felt better than DF which has far superior systems
honestly, not even a bit, shadowlands is for sure one of the top 2 best expansions ive ever played
im plundering
I am loving dragonflight (I didnt play the first two seasons)
Surprised ur not 40 Oxez
I'm in my john mayer era it's joever for taylor swift
You were posting a string of chicken dinners on day 1
lmao
I'D PLAY IT TODAY
U weāre an entire kfc restaurant
u would play shadowlands mayo.... >:(
if they announced that the mop thing was a shadowlands thing i would piss
(Excitedly)
heās only played 2 thatās the joke
LOL
EXCUSE?
TRAITOR?
WOW?
ur a joke u ruined my fun
Excited peeing is def a vibe
but also WW was nuts in m+
everyone shut up about wow
hahahahaha
liking john mayer is illegal
yo john mayer is a vibe dont hate on face @late wraith
idk who john mayer is
Slow dancing in a burning room
he is unfortch good at singing and guitar
oh i know who this guy is nvm. he does residentsleeper music
@tiny oar Oribos best capital city
āMy Stupid Mouthā pretty good
mayo prolly only listens to 300+ BPM nightcore
Nightcore kinda goated
wtf its 300 bpm techno not nitecore
Also good
nightcore can be good but often is just chipmunks there are some good ones though
i listen to jpc full focus playlist cause i wanna be a giga gamer like jpctheman_
Nightcore + nostalgic music like 2000s punk rock = tears
dogshit capital if I have to click on a portal to get to another level of it
oribos was an airport terminal
okay hold on now
i love shadowlands
but the maw and oribos have got to go
circle > all other cities
they have to be chucked
it was LITERALLY NEWARK BRO HAHAHHA

it was a bad circle though you couldn't mount in some of it
like why
why georgia why

it was
I actually loved that addon that tracked how many circles you did in Oribos.
And such dogshit
puzzle
I stopped getting loss in like 9.2
Always went the wrong way
Puzzle hates new jersey confirmed
i had to go lay down
for the night*
cya tomorrow in the arena
Also grats btw
in fact I would put Oribos as the best thing from sl right next to torghast
itās ok new season in like 10 days
@crystal forge
@vestal citrus u think boomkins are actually gonna get their wish and have the tier set that was actually played in s1 and not nerfed in s2
and my give a fuck sort of collapsed in on itself like a beautiful dying star
so i just started getting mad
I see tettles lobbying on twitter
dont get mad beavs it's okay it's just a silly little video game and we'll all be in the dirt in 80 years nothing matters so u can be anything u want to be it's all fine
@late wraith be a lovely firemage and do 40-50% of your damage from ignite instead
coming from boralus, oribos was very bad
š
i guess if you were horde it was an upgrade over the pyramid maybe
yeah it's pagliacci rising for suuuuure
Boomies voted fors 1 set yeah
also my rogue
Fuck boralus I get lost
yeah nothing you do matters at all ur just ognna be in the dirt soon enough isn't that a lovely thought
me and mayo are going to be double rogue 2s and it's going to be miserable
I voted for season 1 set just to spite boomies
double rogue 2s players are a blight on society
double hekili
i want to be a menace but a really bad one

in the top 10 guild?
yeah i know
i know about that
the thing is i'm in an aotc guild for dads?
and so if i just stand there and smile
and take a beating
it's all good
okay but i wanted you to see it
oh yeah i mean
sure
hey taht means there's a shot for me
you're saying i could be a top 20 tank
id still rather have that than a tank who tries to be a chad dpser and is using dps trinkets but DIES
but do the bare minimum that's what you just said
its like goddam do ur job TANK its to TANK
If weāre choosing both ends of the extremes
hey here's my submission to your guild please forward it
I want the person who stays in tank and watches Netflix on second monitor inbetween swaps
then the guy on adderall trying to parse 100 and flops in cat
i'm am also my raid lead for the dad guild
in my guild one of the tanks on our smolderon kill had a literal 0 parse for healing and 99 for damage
so that is my excuse
not to brag but i was in a US top 1200 guild but i got kicked for being too based
catweaving bears in pvp sometimes better then actual cats
sry voodoo wrong channel we're talking pve here
I talk about whatever I want
For a hot second I had to check if this was #offtopic
soon we will all be plunder pirates
no i made a tier list of how bad i think the people in my raid were and they took it bad for some reason
playing plunderstorm while hottub streaming
everytime you type it out it seems worse somehow
yeah tier lists are good content i thought theyd enjoy it
LOL
THATS SO FUCKING LIT
someone who quit my guild this tier did that after we killed tindral. I was S- minus like a badass
i said minus twice

extra minus for pod it makes sense
My brain just broke thinking what S- minus would be on a tier list
Pod get me into your guild 11.0

Renown 40 it is done, ended with 5 wins I think, one or two of those were with beavs and face carrying me lol
u need to join room forty dudes
I dont want to overtime raid at 8am on a Saturday
Puzzle my guild is on fyrakk, we have issues getting 20, not looking good. Flashback to last tier, r.i.p.
Yeah
dont u want 2 nights anyway, but u could app
934
gonna be lowest CEs i've seen a long time i think
most recent low one was azshara?
Yeah its been a rough tier for the average mythic guild
We killed azshara the week of 8.3 and we were like 900
did u see it? i forgot if i showed u
jailer had 1400
So azshara the lowest kill count most recently
What are u. 3 night and what time?
true
tu wed thurs 6-9 PST

@velvet quest confession I drunkenly did the same thing in an officer meeting 
Tier listed everyone
doing that in an officer meeting just sounds like the standard
like a tier list maker? Idk
throwing them on a tier list is kinda demeaning no? Maybe not
Obv I was S tier
not really, i put more effort into that tier list than most of them put into a season's worth of raid. if anything it shows i care about them
oh i didnt know u meant literal tier list maker thats kinda extra
i meant just tiering and shitting on ppl

and ye i remember to look at it, azshara had only like 900 kills
then n'zoth had 2600..jesus
Druids of SoD. There are many non Druids corrupting the moonglade for their void mischief. We must clear them from the land to rebalance nature.
true
I remember why I donāt play sod

Nah
Go outside and touch some real nature

sod has some bangers like BYOB
Bring your own beer?
sod players are saner than pure vanilla players tho
id love a fresh classic server
shit i keep flinching on making a shadow priest on the original one
just dont play it lel
If some high XP boomy interested in a glad carry for gold between now and end of ssn. Carry is a 2.3 ww (my wife), I would heal it (#1 SS prevoker)

yeah thats sus i think u want a high exp frost dk instead
Hey we know one of those!
@stray sigil
For real though I would ask in rudarās discord. Notes would probably do it @nova pulsar

@beavs thanks try that route !
Lmk if you need link to it
I do
Sent
some people put a lot of importance into wins in plunderstorm
we will never understand them
ill give up 500 plunder so someone can get their first win anyday
plus most people who dont have it by now just want the achieve
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@clear pulsar
@clear pulsar plunder stats!
the most popular loadout is the worst loadout i have ever seen lord above.
fire whirl and rime? girl what? are you good?
tarantula most deadly enemy?
how
ive not died to npcs yet closest has been in mines when ive pulled the whole place
It makes sense, those are the easiest buttons to use. I bet stats for most popular loadout for winners is way different but every lobby if you think about it probably half of them are like zechey and have no chance at winning and theyāre grabbing stuff that they like using like fire whirl and rime
And also like I mentioned a few weeks ago I bet thereās people who learned day 1 that fire whirl is rly strong and never read wowhead so they just never knew it got nerfed 5 times
true
Those spells make a lot of sense they're the most basic to use
We had a convo rly early on where I was like it would be funny if blizzard keeps track of stuff like ability loadouts and sees how their numbers change over time even when they completely gut or giga buff something to see how fast meta shifts and what % of player base is completely oblivious to things like that
fir whirl is so easy to shut down though!
rime for sure
Yeah I think the stats are prob being carried by first week or 2
When it was just better
the real plunderlord
lol is it trill?
Zechey can u play last epoch with me
Or diablo 2 resurrected
I will give you one (1) enigma
sounds boring
What the fuck
Last epoch is very fun
As a dad gamer I am becoming fond of the arpg genre
its zechey
Ent you wanna play last epoch with me and zechy
no
What the CLUCKKKKKKKK
Iād play last epoch with you and zechey and ent

Yeah scroll up
I heard lake is also gonna be playing with us

I only play world of warcraft and runescape and neopets sorry
Suck man thereās always next season
eh happens
new ui actually fucked me up to
like I do bad with change
1973 around 40 points below our peak
lopsided cooldown bar
should note did hit 2011 in 3s last week so not bad for the first serious season of pushing 3s also were still doing 2s
Are u boomie
Good evening friends
GOOD EVENING PUZZLE
Evening lakes! Itās almost 9pm here. We dropped kid off at her grandmas hotel room and were out drinking š
hell yea sounds chill hope you have fun buddy š
feral deva feels like garbage idk why people say its better than jungle
Because if you're having a bad time then the devo is blasting and if they're going him your clone for free
well he isnt killing shit
Then he's prob bad
Devo does holocaust dmg
You probably just need to stun everything and micro healer all day
Clone off sleep
god its such a garbage comp
I wanna play it
Trying to avoid sleep and cyclone as a healer sounds like a nightmare
And you'll get caught in one eventually
Cyclone off sleep. Then you could leap bash too and just micro him forever while devo blasts

Can't just hug pillar all game
Your team is gunna die
just stand at the pillar and when you see feral come for clone, either use kick or put grounding down or run to los
easy
THIS COMP IS SO BAD
WHY DO PEOPLE SAY ITS GOOD
Idk
zechey post dmg meter
"plays boomy, ret, disc"
nothing we can do against ww dh
cloning against them doesnt help
they really should buff cyclone its so hard to get off for no reward
no reward, so true
you lose so much dmg doing nothing spending half of the game trying to cast cyclone
against million kicks and micro ccs
for a 6 second shit cc
if cyclone is a shit cc can u list some good cc?
you think cyclone is shit?
ok and what makes those 3 cc better than cyclone?
fear super short cast other ccs instant
is fear even a shorter cast time than cyclone? u can also play full haste if u really wanted but i dont think thatll change ur opinion of cyclone
also no shot ur saying psychic scream which is dispellable and breaks on dmg and requires near melee range and has a cd is better than cyclone lol
zechey i feel like u should play shadow priest since it has good cc and u dont have to fake cast so much
rarely because people dont get fakecasted
or they kick insta
its such a shit thing, precog
having to rely on people being bad and getting fakecasted
a lot of players kick the same way throughout a game, so if someone is insta kicking next time u can try to do an early fake
and if someone doesnt get fake casted just finish ur first cast
also u could just not play precog, for someone like you i think its getting very little value
I think a lot of people are late kickers now so Iāve found success juking at like 90% cast. Better than constantly juking early casts and the guy is like yeah Iām not kicking until itās almost done keep CCing yourself
one of the funniest things is seeing a feral try to fake cast 4 times in a row and i never kick and now theyre 30% health and run away in bear
No it's 1.7s base
Same as clone
I think this is grounds for a ban
All lock specs stack haste so thatās probably why it seems faster
Yeah he prob should
But it's so comfy being a whiny little bitch that thinks everything else is OP when you only play your one spec
I don't think he wants to stop being bitch boy
yeah spriest would be perfect for him cause it would be such a vibe when ret warr is running him down but he can easily self peel by fearing them both off him anytime they connect
I want him to play spr vs jungle

Forget ret warr

yea no
I think shadow is probably the worst possible option for zechey
no spoilers guys
i wanna watch him get a clean double fear off with one of the best cc in the game, then the warrior berserker rages and the ret gets dispelled and theyre both back on him a second later. and then he uses his root thing but the ret freedoms the warrior and now hes dispersing and tabbing over to discord to type about how broken freedom is
also the fear of not being able to cast
for like 20seconds
cause one kick insta dead
Warriors talent for the aoe serker rage too
idk why rogues can do so much dmg in stuns
their stuns should break with enough dmg
makes no sense they can 100-0 in one duel
yeah stuns should break with enough damage i agree. just like fears and incaps and cyclones
I am a precog machine. (I get juked all the time)
I think the issue there is duel
Let this man cook

@livid wasp nerf maim. Itās just like kidney

Iāve learned how to bait precog just in time for them to maybe take it away I dunno who can tell
I can get it off but not every time
when you get precog cause u used warstomp
its so unfair how easy the game is for some people
I guess the same people are the ones who wonder why some people dont just become doctors
Or he just plays the casters that have like 3 schools lol
An instanter
Instanter is also a wonderful role to play in the world of Warcraft
heaelrs always hate me for leaving when I end up in 2v2 situation
I cant play 2s what can I do about it
Why wouldnāt you play out a 2v2 cause u cross kill

????

Feral just has a really hard time vs mages nothing you can do about it
Face we plonder later?
true ur feral prob not ideal vs mage
or vs anything rly
we plongerboys?

Oofa
The city has a bit of a flooding issue
what will the capybaras do
I will plunder your kneecaps

Not sure if you dont know but capybaras are semiaquatic
They omega swimmers
Weāll q into you itāll be on sight
I actually had no clue no
On sight with you too
I didnāt even know those things existed until taxes tried a lame joke that said I was capping

Look at him
They look like menaces the flower pedals are a red herring
why does this game have to be like this
Like what specifically
Time to play something else for the next half
wish I was good like snupy
endless flight
fight
I tried playing with deva tonight it just felt like shit worse than jungle
Iām surprised u had problems with deva feral
every deva feral I see on stream just seems like war crimes damage lol
just uninstall lol
nah it would be on the back of my mind forever
good thing about plunder is you can just go next
in arena you queue then you get some deva flaming you for not cloning enough
then he ditches and you have to lfg for another hour
idk why I cant just be good at feral
other ones seem to be spamming clone and goiong 2.4k with that
Arms is highest skill cap spec in the game
if they just redesigned feral to not require R1 skills to be 2.4k+
Yo fearl pumps
Remember that one time he said it was time for him to make an alt cause feral is too bad and squishy. And his first choice was dk
If weāre going purely based on matching vibe I think he should just play whatever nahj is on
Zechy is him
need to find a new ret for ret, boomy, disc
What u deadassing bro

Zechey play guardian
how do I become pro at feral
Accept your reality
what the fuck..
@tiny oar good name for the comp
if u play tank in arena I will come to ur house and kick ur monitor with my docs dont try it
if your playing tank to be a sadist it's fine in my book
@livid wasp have you tried rewatching and seeing what ferals did to beat you and then idkā¦do that instead
zechey i bet you're pretty good
Rock solid mental fortress
when boomy ret 3s
got to do the weed
going to try aff boomy dot soon
maybe it will work Idk
bright side won't need to clone as much
biggest prob I have I suck at clones
need to get them down better
Do you need a healer
I can find an rando evening for end of season if you do for a quick 2.1 glory run
@clear fox mostly dps
I have 0 consitent dps partners
went through like 4 this week
best one has been the rest ironicly
ferals dont beat me that often, they suck as much as I do at this mmr
eu druid is LOOKING STRONG
Damn u got your usual ilvl to rip ankles
THATS RIGHT BABY
guess who /afked out of the arena
he was getting chain rooted and knocked back all game

Idk sounds like player issue itās not like the eleās healer was druid
What rating
2100 mmr
lolllllll
Are fistweaver and presvoker lobbies supposed to be hard for druid?
Depends what the dps are. Generally FW not hard at all. Prevoker can be rough
gl beating decent fw melee cleave as feral
YAY! š
Germ there was a guy named gameslol in a lobby and my brain seized up I thought it was you so I yelled hi to him and then we became friends in the next lobby lol
It was real cute
feral deva is shit ill have these words on my grave
an imposter!
But a nice one!
every session I play I can play like 5 games until I start to get tilted from all the clone attempts and being kicked and stopped while being focused its so aids
oh yes I run precog, even if I fakecast theres a million different things in the game to stop me from getting a clone
They really did such weird shit with ferals
Yeah I hear ya. Precog doesnāt mean anything if they stun you
or attempting to bait
nah they cant cc me btu they can ground it, los it, ams it
Sometimes I get the precog just after the stun
its so freaking aids im getting cancer from it
Yeah they really made it so miserable lol
and im supposed to be doing that shit all game, keeping them dred from clone
Yeah I think that must have gotten harder with all the fw melee groups around now? I dunno if youāre seeing that at your rating but 1800-2100 in 3s is like arms warrior every single matchup now. I just run and cc its extremely unfun
havent even faced any fws tonight
like I dont mind feral being difficult but this clone thing is so frustrating makes me wanna break everything at some point every night
Fw arenāt as common still as rdruid but arms are everywhere and fw with arms feels so toxic and annoying
yeah I know its really hard as jungle
Just think zechey jungle will rise again and youāll skyrocket to r1
maybe I should just settle with 2.1k being my goal each season and then spend the rest of the time farming bgs
Do it
Break everything
im poor
Thatās good it means the stuff you break will be cheap to replace
haha! good point!
Mayo math
I got my stuff when I had a job
now if I broke my keyboard id have to use my 20 euro logitech shit
mouse would be trickier, cant get a wired mouse anymore
breaking screen thats a nice -200
or headphones thats a nice -100
Why am I always on these things lol
The conversation revolves around frustrations with playing as a feral druid in a competitive gaming environment, particularly in facing numerous obstacles and disruptions while attempting to execute abilities like "clone." The conversation also touches on the prevalence of certain class compositions in the meta, such as melee-heavy groups, and the overall dissatisfaction with the current state of gameplay. There's a sense of shared frustration among the participants and a longing for better balancing and gameplay experiences.








