pvp

[tiny oar]

my hands are fucked for the day

[crystal forge]

come onn

[tiny oar]

over the weekend we dh boomie rsham

[velvet quest]

u wont need hands trevvy will kill in opener

[crystal forge]

true

[tiny oar]

no like i genuinely have arthritis or something its really bad

[crystal forge]

if it was mayo i would have said id come hold them for u

but

no

ur not mayo

[velvet quest]

dang that was so smooth

dont u think so lake?

[tiny oar]

yea real smooth

[crystal forge]

like her brain

[tiny oar]

he should make the gay men rizz guide

[velvet quest]

its not gay

[crystal forge]

why gay men are always thirsty

u dont need a guide

do u know how many gay men hit on me

[velvet quest]

u cant put a label like that on our relationship

[crystal forge]

all cuz i have the name boykisser

oh w ait

with DH

i can tank keys

as meta tank

holy smokes

[tiny oar]

[velvet quest]

what buttons do i press as vdh i wanna be able to finish my weekly 18s faster

[crystal forge]

demon spikes iirc

thats literally it

[tiny oar]

spirit bomb

[velvet quest]

theres like 2 or 3 dmg buttons i couldnt figure out which gets used where

and i didnt want to read

[tiny oar]

immo aura or fracture to 5 spirit frags spirit bomb dump fury with soul cleave

WIN

keep sigil of flame on cd perma 2

[crystal forge]

@velvet quest is haste good or bad for dh

in pvp

[velvet quest]

haste is ok its just not vers or mastery

so u dont rly seek it

wait lake do u spirit bomb like every 6s to maintain frailty?

[crystal forge]

yes i believe so

DH tank is actually very simple from what i was watching

[velvet quest]

man i hate maintenance buttons

[crystal forge]

and it does absurd dmg

[velvet quest]

like rjw for brm

[crystal forge]

meh rjw is super important and easy to use

so its not bad

[velvet quest]

or is it less maintenance and u just press everytime u cap to 5

[crystal forge]

imo shittiest tank to play is ppal

so much babysitting

and u need to spin hammers before a pack or ur dead

where as i just do anything else on any other tank

[velvet quest]

i like when prot paladin is in my grp i feel way safer

and have to kick like 2x less

[crystal forge]

yeah but as the tank its misery

bear is boring

brm is fun but gets 1 shot too easily

[velvet quest]

yeah but i dont tank so thats fine

[crystal forge]

pwar is just cringe

[velvet quest]

i do 1 brm key a season and i fight for my life in a 18 so its kinda fun

and then afterwards i remember i didnt press like 3 of my abilities but then i forget again by the next time i tank next season

[crystal forge]

now the real question aside from the 2 sparks i need for embells doi use the rest for pve?

[velvet quest]

what is vdh stats

i bet some sparks u can use for both pvp+pve

my dh could have such good gear but id have to farm like 300 more crests

[tropic grove]

Double myth track timestrike glaive is illegal

[crystal forge]

does TS do shit as DH?

[velvet quest]

nah i worked hard, i do 1-4 keys a week

[crystal forge]

its so ass fer cat

[velvet quest]

i mean its free dmg right

like almost 1%

[random patrol]

needs more dots

[harsh ore]

Hmmm I see I believe I take that extra fade talent

[polar nymph]

Which one?

[polar nymph]

Only good if you take damage

[harsh ore]

Yeah fair

[prime osprey]

@crystal forge you cannot talk to Beavs this way young man

[crystal forge]

what way

[prime osprey]

Lake showed me the clip

You know what you did

[crystal forge]

👨‍🦯

[prime osprey]

[crystal forge]

its not my fault

she started it

[prime osprey]

I don't think she did

And you know that

[tiny oar]

[crystal forge]

im sorry 😦

[late wraith]

Ty eve

[tiny oar]

Ty eve

[tropic schooner]

Stop being so mean

[polar nymph]

Thought I'd embrace the popular naming convention everyone seems to use here.

[tiny oar]

its a good one nice work loststray

[polar nymph]

Thank you thank you

[livid wasp]

do you like VB longneck

[main igloo]

Just game back to the game again and… solo shuffle is worse now? For healing at least…

Somehow felt more miserable

[tropic schooner]

how would it be worse?

[main igloo]

Could be my lack of experience for like a month but i genuinely feel it almost doesnt matter what I do

Conventional healing just isnt kicking it im popping 110k healing every round and enemy healer was doing smth along the 60-70s. i lost every round

[safe heart]

Yeah thats how healing goes

[main igloo]

I dunno… either I suck at doing a rotationthats literally drilled into my skull or solo shuffle healing is the worst possible thing you can do in wow

[tropic schooner]

that sounds like confirmation bias

or you are doing something significantly wrong

because if that happens consistently.. they are playing with the same dps as you do

[main igloo]

That was 1 lovby

I played 3 today and it went 3-3 0-6 3-3
Both 3-3s were with the shame ele shaman who went 0-6 and 2-4

[tropic schooner]

one lobby doesnt matter

[main igloo]

Thats what im saying tho… dpsers are straight up inconsistent sometimes…. Feral druid did 2 cyclones vs 12 in the first game

[tropic schooner]

yes?

people are people

[safe heart]

I mean that specifically can be a comp thing

[tropic schooner]

that too yea

[safe heart]

If I'm against a ele sham or rsham I'll never get a clone off

[grand mesa]

I mean if enemy healer has DRs and big CDs it’s gonna look lower compared to rdru that’s all hps

[main igloo]

Yeah true

Shammy is hard to pull clones off on

[main igloo]

It wasnt just hps but total as well…

Im outside now so cant really screenshot but yeah…
Druid has more h output anyway so its not just that

[grand mesa]

Right but say 2 sups and barrier. Or sacs and bops. That may do just as much as a fat NS if not more and doesn’t show as healing

[livid wasp]

they need to make healing super easy so people do it more

[main igloo]

Fat NS would just go down as overheal but aye ^^

[tropic schooner]

assuming it overhealed

which wont always be the case

[main igloo]

I think soloshuffle is just bad pvp tbh

[tropic schooner]

I think its great

[main igloo]

For the healer perspective

[tropic schooner]

but it ofc isnt for everyone

[grand mesa]

I think it fills a need

I wish they iterated on it more to get queue times down

[main igloo]

Blitz feels better on paper

[tropic schooner]

id rather play arena

then bgs

[main igloo]

BGs are a lot better imo just harder and more foddery

[grand mesa]

Im opposite lol. Just grabbing a second buddy and doing blitz has been fun

[main igloo]

I think blizz should cut like 20 abilities off of each class

[livid wasp]

blitz is great

[main igloo]

Honestly the game info needed atm for high pvp is just ludicrous

[tropic schooner]

tbh that has always been the case

but yea its an issue

[main igloo]

Like i have almost 0 clue what warlock does

[livid wasp]

I mean same thing for games like lol or dota

no idea whats happening in them and you gotta learn 100 heroes

[tropic schooner]

honestly no

wow is a lot harder to get into

[livid wasp]

dno about that

[main igloo]

Yeah thats just not the case

[grand mesa]

You generally know what the 4-5 abilities are in dota by just playing against them. You don’t necessarily need to play it yourself to understand

[main igloo]

Im playing wow for like 4-5 months now and its just ridiculous

The level of info you actually need

[tropic schooner]

you also dont really need to know every ability in league or dota

the general gist is more important (same as wow tbh)

[main igloo]

All the while beinf fucking mozart during arena

[livid wasp]

you gotta know buy orders for different heroes too and shit

[grand mesa]

but if you one trick and you’re not curious you can generally spend your entire wow career not having any idea what a class does outside really big CDs

[main igloo]

I can literally google that ingame because I have the time

[grand mesa]

I’ve been playing a lot of different classes lately and it’s been really good tbh. Learning demo rn

[main igloo]

The problem is that you need a well informed brain for healing

[tropic schooner]

yea that is really not an issue

[main igloo]

And a near empty brain for dps

[tropic schooner]

again im not talking about being the best, im saying picking it up

and for both league and dota you have suggested items which are totally fine

[main igloo]

I can learn league in 2 weeks with a max level account

The same level of detail you cannot get in wow in less than 2 months

[tropic schooner]

absolutely not

[main igloo]

The basics at least

Ive played a lot of mobas, some league too back in like season 3-5

[tropic schooner]

depends on your starting point

yea

so you know the game

[main igloo]

Yeah true

[tropic schooner]

you arent learning the game

[main igloo]

I mean….

[tropic schooner]

you are learning current abilties which the vast majority are identical

[main igloo]

I think i forget that its like 200 characters now

[tropic schooner]

they release like 4-5 a year

[main igloo]

But anyway that game has a worse community than wow so Id never bother

And wow’s not great 😅

[livid wasp]

dont you get chat banned if you say "gg" when winning or something kek

[grand mesa]

Zechey would get banned so quick in league

[livid wasp]

1984

you will not say gg ez

[tropic schooner]

yea thats not saying gg

[grand mesa]

Lmao yeah

[tropic schooner]

if you spam gg to tilt people I could see you getting banned, sounds unlikely but at least possible

[livid wasp]

I mean I understand if youre being racist or stuff you deserve to get banned but if youre just trolling a bit saying gg ez cmon

[tropic schooner]

?

[safe heart]

gg

ez

[tropic schooner]

both are banworthy

[safe heart]

no

re

[livid wasp]

youre just a salty fuck if you get offended by it

[tropic schooner]

nah you are just insecure if you feel the need to write it

[livid wasp]

thats one of the points we play competitive games, to beat others and feel good about beating them

[tropic schooner]

yea feel good about beating not good about flaming them

[safe heart]

if they lost they deserve to be bathed in the flames of failure

real

real

real

real

rela

[livid wasp]

wouldnt call it flaming

[safe heart]

real

real

[tropic schooner]

whats the reason to write it? its to make them feel bad

that is flaming

you arent happy about winning there you are happy about them losing and you want to rub it in

[livid wasp]

just dont be so thin skinned

[grand mesa]

My one buddy when I was young kinda like scolded us when we were spamming obnoxious shit after we won. He said “guys act like you’ve won a game before” lmao

kinda stuck with me

[tropic schooner]

exactly dont be so thin skinned and take your punishment for being a dick

[main igloo]

Look up: sportsmanlike behavior

[tropic schooner]

like obviously saying something like gg ez isnt as bad as racist insults - but both arent okay

just cause something is worse doesnt mean the less bad thing is acceptable

[main igloo]

Right?

Apologism at its finest

[livid wasp]

I wonder if blizz tracks if you /laugh at someone

or rofl

[tiny oar]

guys act like you’ve won a game before

[tropic schooner]

pretty sure if you spam those emotes and get reported for that

you also can get banned/chat restricted

[livid wasp]

why spam

once is enough

if you spam you just look sad

[tiny oar]

why emote

why flame

[grand mesa]

Easy solution for me is to be so thoroughly average that I don’t get flamed for being bad and I don’t shit on someone so hard I get rage whispers

[livid wasp]

if you do /flex isnt it like saying "gg ez"

[tiny oar]

how bout grow the fuck up

[tropic schooner]

sure somewhat

[livid wasp]

I dont emote to people unless theyve said some shit to me before in shuffle lounge

and I beat them

its funny

should be permaban too when someone does /pet on feral

[grand mesa]

U like that right?

It honestly stuck with me

like over 15 years ago lmao

[tiny oar]

yea its good shit thats the mental this channel needs lmao

[safe heart]

sometimes i do shuffle rounds where i say "dont try too hard this round, we lose hundo p"

like last week i was going 0-6 in this shuffle and on the 6th round some guy said i sucked or whatever

so naturally i throw that round intentionally

but while we were losing i was telling that guy to carry me since hes so good at this game and i need the help

and we somehow actually won while i was legit afk for the first like 30-45 seconds

[late wraith]

I don’t flame them I dm puzzle and am like a guy in solo made me mad ☹️

[safe heart]

beavs get with the program please

when someone makes you mad in shuffle

you hold a gun to their cr's dome and dare them to type in chat again

[late wraith]

That is pretty powerful

Funny shit happens in there too though like a healer called a ww names and the guy didnt leave he just threw every game with that healer instead of quitting it was good

[safe heart]

see

[late wraith]

that is the type of petty I am extremely into

[safe heart]

thats what ur suppose to do

forcing that healer into a 3-3 at best is way better than making him settle for 2-0

[grand mesa]

Idk why u flame the healer tbh they have all the power

[late wraith]

The healer flamed him

[grand mesa]

They can leave or throw your games and hop back into another game in 1-2 min or less

oh

[late wraith]

Healers have the worst attitude in there so far

They’re the ones constantly hollering

[grand mesa]

I’ve never typed once I think

[late wraith]

Like grow up your next queue is instant go again

[safe heart]

its cuz healers dont have time to simmer down after a traj loss

[velvet quest]

Healers will have 1000 rounds played at 1600 and act like you’re the reason they’re not 2100

[safe heart]

if i lose on healer, im in another queue in 2 minutes still tilted from the last lobby

[grand mesa]

Yeah my prevoker is exactly where it belongs

In 1500-1600

And it’ll never leave

And I’ve accepted that

[late wraith]

Vibes

[grand mesa]

[late wraith]

That’s vibe town

[velvet quest]

i think i haven't queued a single shuffle lobby this season

that's vibe town

[late wraith]

Truly

I am mad the second I get in there it’s an incredible phenomenon

[velvet quest]

and ull do it again after a bad lobby

weirdo

[late wraith]

Yes

It’s like gambling that one was just a bad roll

it’s anger management gacha game

[velvet quest]

how do u win

[late wraith]

Have trevvy dm me and ask if I want to queue with him and lake instead of solo shuffle at 10 pm

[velvet quest]

@crystal forge shes asking u to dm her more often

done

[grand mesa]

I think you’d need a twitlongest to cover everything Trevvy said in that sesh

My god

[late wraith]

I have to make so many clips today

[velvet quest]

i think its u and lake's fault for not disciplining him early enough

he didnt know any better

[late wraith]

We got this puppy without fully realizing how much work it was going to be

[grand mesa]

Beavs used her entire granny voice

To express discontent

[late wraith]

he got SCOLDED

[grand mesa]

But Trevvy doesn’t hear that frequency I guess

[late wraith]

I called him Trevor

[grand mesa]

Used the full name

You need the middle name too

[polar nymph]

How hard is it to press 1212121313 for 80% of a match?

[late wraith]

Trevor William girlkisserxd you stop that right now

[grand mesa]

When you get slapped with the full government name

You know u in trubs

[velvet quest]

hes so cute tho u cant stay mad at him

[polar nymph]

Puzzlebox, come down here right now!

[late wraith]

He just keeps acting up he stops for a second and starts immediately back into it

doesn’t even skip a beat

[grand mesa]

lmao

[late wraith]

I think having both me and lake in the queue with him makes him worse somehow. Like two women multiplies his brattiness

[polar nymph]

Your DPS took more damage per second than the enemy DPS did so you had to heal more, this also means the enemy healer had more space to play offensively while you were not able to.

In shuffle, doing almost double the HPS of the other healer doesn't mean you were the better healer, it just means the enemy DPS were better than your own.

So tell your team to pop a defensive and do some damage.

[tropic schooner]

that logic doesnt work in shuffle because your dps are the same as the enemy dps

[polar nymph]

It is absolutely the fault of the DPS if you double the HPS of the opposing healer and still lose, they did not play in a way that let you do anything else for long.

DPS can play well some rounds then play badly other rounds.

[late wraith]

Sometimes I forget all my buttons one round as a little treat

[safe heart]

ill ask obvious question

as the healer how do you make ur dps do more dmg so you dont have to spam heal the whole time

[livid wasp]

motivational speech

[tropic schooner]

could be but doesnt have to

also depends if we talk consistent or one game

if its one game could be dps if its consistent it cant

[polar nymph]

Could be DPS positioning, could be your own positioning, could be other things too

@tropic schooner

[tropic schooner]

in singular games yes

[safe heart]

idk if i was consistantly experiencing dps on my team doing like half the dmg of the other team lobby to lobby, i still dont even really know how that could be on the healer

[tropic schooner]

cd usage too

[tropic schooner]

bad cd usage bad topping people so they have to run

no cc used

playing class with fewer damage reductions

etc

bunch of reasons

[polar nymph]

Also can be lack of peels or kiting

[tropic schooner]

yea peels would be cc used

by the healers

[polar nymph]

But it can still be that you do use cc as a healer and still have to heal way more than the enemy healer

[late wraith]

For me as the one caster in a room of melees when the healer gets ccd constantly I have to run more

[polar nymph]

Especially if your own teammates do nothing to help prevent you getting put in cc

[tropic schooner]

in individual games yes

[late wraith]

So avoiding cc and peels are my vote

[tropic schooner]

not over a bunch of games consistently

[polar nymph]

I often joke to a friend of mine that I can heal anything except stupid 😛

[tropic schooner]

yes thats a very common saying

[polar nymph]

It's not a 100% serious statement but there is a message inbetween the lines there

[livid wasp]

a lot of healers dread healing ferals

or maybe just me

[polar nymph]

If I have a Warrior that opens the match by charging in head first and leaping off his mount behind the pillar over and over again it's going to be a lot harder for me to dedicate time to doing anything but trying to save him constantly.

[late wraith]

Ye honestly sometimes I watch the other healer pushing in to cc while I’m sitting the millionth stun and am like damn. I wish this warrior on my team would do literally anything to help this game.

[polar nymph]

Because so many of my potential globals don't go through, because they physically can't

And I'm spending a lot more time using my feathers

The opposite team knows this and exploits it

[main igloo]

Just trying to find the right strat as a rdruid to get 2.1k+ in SS

[grand mesa]

I think if dps feel safe they do more damage

Like legitimately

[main igloo]

Sounds true

[polar nymph]

Best strat is to play a lot and record games to watch back or get others to watch them and give you advice on where to improve.

[main igloo]

I got warcraft logs

[polar nymph]

And to ask questions to those who are higher rated/xp on the spec than you are

[safe heart]

i guess its part of shuffle meta to trade ur cds for your teammates emotional stability

[main igloo]

Ill install that addon that shows your ability presses etc

[main igloo]

Its a feature for sure

[grand mesa]

Like if ur an rdru and playing 45 yards passive afk and everytime your melee wants to push in or go behind pillar alittle bit they get massacred. Melee will feel like he’s on a leash. Ofc the melee gonna do lower damage

[polar nymph]

Hence why earlier I mentioned getting them to pop a defensive and do damage since it's on paper the safest time to attack (not everytime though)

[tropic schooner]

yea but them being low could also be on the healer

[polar nymph]

Sure

It can be on them too though

[tropic schooner]

in individual games

yes

[polar nymph]

Good cooldown management as a healer makes your DPS feel safe

[grand mesa]

Like I’ve seen so many screenshots over the course of this expac of a dps doing more damage against them and half the damage with them and at a certain point you’re probably not doing something to enable them to pump. Whether positioning or you’re forcing them to trade CDs bad or something

[polar nymph]

There are no additional prizes for winning a match having not used half your kit

[main igloo]

DPS will never not feel safe

Unless theyre with the “losing” healer

[polar nymph]

Healers also can go on the offensive during their own team's goes.

[tropic schooner]

the thing is that if its a consistent occurance for a healer play it cannot be on the dps

[grand mesa]

You unironically probably feel safest with an rdru right now. Until they run out of mana

so much healing

[polar nymph]

I agree

[late wraith]

Yes. This is it like if the healer is standing in the open eating the most cc I’m like cool I’m absolutely dying here.

[safe heart]

paladins mages and hunters i cocoon them earlier than id like just so they wont fucking press turtle bubble block

[main igloo]

Let them bubble first

[polar nymph]

Every healer is capable of contributing offensively through damage and/or cc, you don't have to just sit back and heal which is a trap many healers have fallen in to at times (not capitalizing on windows of opportunity)

[main igloo]

Id say

[grand mesa]

Yeah In shuffle I’d do whatever I could to save rets bubble

[main igloo]

Cooldown on shield is bigger than cocoon

Better cd spread

[grand mesa]

if they bubble in the opener it’s so shit

[safe heart]

no

i want them to save bubble and turtle

[main igloo]

I dont play mist monk or ret so dunno for sure

[safe heart]

i desperatley need them to have a way to save themselves later

cuz if i can play around cocoon, that gap where i cant make it work, they can live

[main igloo]

I once NS’d a hunter at 60% just to be sure theyd handle the dmg and they still turtled

[safe heart]

oh i have hunters press turtle inside of cocoon all the time

[polar nymph]

It's a high chance for a loss if an immunity class commits their's in the first 30-40 secs

[main igloo]

Do you prefer mist to resto enji?

[safe heart]

i dont play resto so ye

[main igloo]

Or do you fist… 🫣

[safe heart]

no im playing regular mw

[main igloo]

I tried it for a bit and it didnt feel as good… wanna try more now when I can gear it more

[safe heart]

i think fw is freelo tbh

[main igloo]

Didnt have proper stats (haste?)

[safe heart]

yeah haste

haste for fist, mastery for cast

[main igloo]

I think i saw lontar preach mastery but it sounded wrong

[polar nymph]

Nothing worse than a FW that plays that build with casters

[safe heart]

mw mastery is insanely good

[main igloo]

Oooh ok so mastery is cast

[safe heart]

but only for castweaver

[main igloo]

Thought you needed the haste

[safe heart]

for fw its literally worthless

nah on castweaver i have like 115 something mastery and like 10% haste maybe

[main igloo]

I think i saw most stat spreads being haste at the start of season

[safe heart]

for FW you need haste desperately because you only heal as fast as you punch

well the problem is is that fw and castweaver are 2 different classes

[main igloo]

I swear, doing damage to heal is the stupidest mechanic in wow pvp

[safe heart]

so when you check like murlok for their gear, you need tocheck their talents also

[main igloo]

It literally makes the game harder to balance for healers

[velvet quest]

hasnt that been an existing mechanic forever? like disc priests?

[safe heart]

i like it in pve
fw mythicals is fun

[main igloo]

Disc damage is too damn high

Imo

At least thats my opinion for like 2s

[velvet quest]

ok but the fact that they exist means fw shouldnt be harder to balance

[polar nymph]

Reminder that it shows whatever they logged out in on those sites, not what's in their bags for gear or there other talent setups on those sites.

[safe heart]

i think if i went fw and founda decent ret war i think id unironically go straight up to 2.1 in 3s

[main igloo]

3s i dont mind it outside of penitence

[polar nymph]

So they might have logged out in caster weaver build but be wearing different gear.

[grand mesa]

[main igloo]

But resto druid feels like the most fun druid spec

[safe heart]

@grand mesa i think the same way but with a caster comp on my castweaver, but i play with randoms most of the time

[main igloo]

Used to be feral for me but i dont really love the state. At least from early January

[grand mesa]

My destro and ele are ready whenever you want to play at a functional human time

[safe heart]

if i had a FLPala or FMPala to play with id drop everything and play that

[safe heart]

[polar nymph]

I don't think any of us PvP Ferals have been happy with any state of the spec this xpac

[main igloo]

What rank y’all are at 3s?

[grand mesa]

dude feral mage is so gas I swear

[polar nymph]

gas?

[main igloo]

He meant to say ass

[safe heart]

yeah it felt great the short time i played it

[polar nymph]

oh

[main igloo]

Its b tier rogue mage

[grand mesa]

I did not mean ass

[safe heart]

its good, esp with hpal

[grand mesa]

Yea

[safe heart]

like yeah its a feral comp

so its like b tier at best

but still

its solid

[main igloo]

You meant 3s

Well

[safe heart]

yeah 3s

[grand mesa]

I just can’t imagine playing jungle with all kicks on you as feral

[main igloo]

Jungle is the top one

[safe heart]

double dps 2s is dead

no jungle deff worse than fmp rn

[main igloo]

Though poly clone synergy is boss i guess

[safe heart]

feral is 100% reliant on landing clones right now

the mage allows you to cast clones

[main igloo]

Cassidy brought jungle in awc

Didnt go well :>

[safe heart]

see

[grand mesa]

no it’s more so like you give other team a choice of what they want to shut down

The mage or the feral

[main igloo]

Having to land clones is such a bullshit mechanic

[grand mesa]

wait enji if I ground clone you still get wild attunement yes?

[main igloo]

When half the playerbase has tools to prevent it from connecting

[safe heart]

yes

if i completely the cast i get the buff

[grand mesa]

the cast just has to complete?

[main igloo]

Priest fade it doesnt work

[safe heart]

yeah i can cast clones into triple DR

[grand mesa]

yeah when I played with Fuji he was just cloning totems and pets whatever he could

[safe heart]

im open to being wrong about grounding but im 90% sure it still gives me the buff

[main igloo]

It does

[grand mesa]

I think ur right

[safe heart]

but i clone hunter pets, treants, imps, anything

[main igloo]

Priest fade sadly doesnt

I havetarget nonplayer macrod for that

[stray sigil]

cuz the cast technically

doesnt complete

since u miss

[main igloo]

HotW cyclone casts feel *chef’s kiss *

[polar nymph]

You can also clone in to clone if it's halfway over

[stray sigil]

think its mega cringe all our bottom nodes are so bad

that we take a 5min one

to clone

lmfao

[safe heart]

imagine a 5min defensive taht cant out heal a warlock dot

[grand mesa]

All 3 capstones are underwhelming

[main igloo]

Feral needs the shapeshifter talent resto has

[polar nymph]

Regrowths during HotW felt good briefly, then they did another stamina buff and that was over.

[tepid spoke]

WHEN Q

WHEN Q

WHEN Q

[stray sigil]

wrong server matt

[grand mesa]

Matty gets hall of shame and now he’s on his pvp arc

[clear pulsar]

Qs are over

[tepid spoke]

[clear pulsar]

I have a spriest where the destro @stray sigil

[polar nymph]

And then when you go and do PvE 2/3 of them feel incredibly strong.

[stray sigil]

[polar nymph]

It's not fair

[stray sigil]

im on fdk main arc now

[tepid spoke]

whos pullin gout the deva

[clear pulsar]

You ever try playing a good spec?

[tepid spoke]

[polar nymph]

Arcane/FDK arc when?

[stray sigil]

[clear pulsar]

Mf plays feral and fdk

Crazy

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

He tells me he’s a sigma chad fdk

Then is in my DMs crying nonstop

The dissonance

[grand mesa]

it’s just the gif of Pepe hanging himself with a single tear running down his cheek over and over and over again

[stray sigil]

[tepid spoke]

@grand mesa when is femboy

making an apreeance

[stray sigil]

gboy u mean

[grand mesa]

gboy?

[tepid spoke]

gayboy

[grand mesa]

Gboytommy is retired

[clear pulsar]

What lol

It lasted 2 whole days?

[stray sigil]

not even

lmfao

it lasted 5 games

and he hopped off

[grand mesa]

I am not a melee

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

I get too lost in the paint bro

[clear pulsar]

You get lost as ele too

Whys it bother u on melee

[stray sigil]

[safe heart]

I am picking my rsham back up some fuji

Rsham devo fdk

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

Face u troll so hard

[stray sigil]

still nobody plays dev

[grand mesa]

I don’t want to hear it

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

Lmao

[clear pulsar]

Facegotdrake might need a name change after this week

[safe heart]

@haughty compass

[stray sigil]

[clear pulsar]

Might as well, I'm never qing again

[stray sigil]

[clear pulsar]

I watched that vod twice over

[stray sigil]

did u watch vods of our 2s

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-the-frog-sad-sad-face-meme-tears-gif-16441527

[clear pulsar]

If you thought I was throwing I woulda loved to hear it but I sat there for 20 mins trying to explain what I was thinking and what I wanted and just got donowalled

Shit's pathetic

[haughty compass]

Sup g

[clear pulsar]

Then I have to hear I'm kiting behind walls and lining you lol

[safe heart]

fuji said he would carry us to glad as rsham fdk devo

[grand mesa]

I don’t think it’s worth litigating you were doing omega kitty shit in 3s I figured u just wanted to have fun and play aggro so I didn’t say anything

[safe heart]

i will be the salmon

[haughty compass]

[clear pulsar]

Someone has to CC

[tepid spoke]

do they

[stray sigil]

whos this to

me or puzzle

[tepid spoke]

[late wraith]

yeah who is that for lol

[tepid spoke]

thats for fuji

its obvious

[stray sigil]

no way

[late wraith]

it's not

[stray sigil]

[clear pulsar]

You are perfect never threw a game in your life bb

[grand mesa]

It’s not

[stray sigil]

ty

[late wraith]

it's not obvious is the thing

[stray sigil]

glad we agree

[late wraith]

because it could also be for me/puzzle

[tepid spoke]

[haughty compass]

I’m season of discovery warlock tank enjoyer.

[stray sigil]

[tepid spoke]

whats donowall

[grand mesa]

Based pykan

[crystal forge]

????????????

[tepid spoke]

explain like im taco

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

like nobody answering

[grand mesa]

he got ignored

Lmao

[stray sigil]

when ur talking

[late wraith]

yeah that's for me 100% lol.

[tepid spoke]

oh

[stray sigil]

tbf

[grand mesa]

That was between beavs and face if you recall I had almost 0 opinions that night

[clear pulsar]

I'm on my dps arc too now

[grand mesa]

Just playing

[clear pulsar]

Never healing again

[stray sigil]

puzzle sometimes

has air going into his brain

and he lags

and doesnt respond

its true

[clear pulsar]

I mean he legit ignores my voice

[haughty compass]

Fuji still frost dk gamer?

[tepid spoke]

it kinda is true

[stray sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-the-frog-sad-sad-face-meme-tears-gif-16441527

[clear pulsar]

He just told me he doesnt pay attention to a word I say

[polar nymph]

This just leads to you queuing MM

[clear pulsar]

It's not very fun

[stray sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-the-frog-sad-sad-face-meme-tears-gif-16441527

[grand mesa]

Fuji is an fdk desperately looking for a devoker

[tepid spoke]

[grand mesa]

@haughty compass

[haughty compass]

What cr

[stray sigil]

mfer pig i also need a real healer

thats not rdru

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-the-frog-sad-sad-face-meme-tears-gif-16441527

[tepid spoke]

[stray sigil]

[clear pulsar]

I was told I couldnt get peels cuz I was lining them and they couldnt CC anyone https://www.twitch.tv/beavsbeavs/clip/AlluringFriendlyMangetoutMau5-H_nJh_KyvbMuf-w4?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time @stray sigil

[stray sigil]

beavs gonna get mad agane

[late wraith]

are you

[stray sigil]

its over for u

[late wraith]

for real?

[stray sigil]

granny coming at ur head

[late wraith]

bringing this up?

aain?

[tepid spoke]

beavs got MAD?

[late wraith]

and like in dg?

[stray sigil]

[tepid spoke]

[late wraith]

like what are you trying to do here

[tepid spoke]

[late wraith]

what are you trying to accomplish

[stray sigil]

\

[clear pulsar]

Just venting to fuji

[polar nymph]

Face acts so smug all the time like he can never be wrong then does stuff like this.

[late wraith]

so dm him bud

dm him if you want to

[tepid spoke]

[clear pulsar]

Puzzle told me I troll

I didnt think I was trolling

[late wraith]

but dragging this out all over the place when it was very much done and over and no one was saying shit about it except you is fucking a choice.

you were.

end it.

[clear pulsar]

I dont talk in DMs

[late wraith]

like i'm not having this conversation ever again.

[clear pulsar]

Thats ok

[tepid spoke]

[clear pulsar]

I was talkign to fuji

[tepid spoke]

[stray sigil]

[tepid spoke]

[stray sigil]

nice weather uh

[crystal forge]

yo dh is sick ngl

[late wraith]

wow face you're so right and good at the game you're never wrong about anything. is that what you wanted to achieve? cause there it is, have it.

[stray sigil]

[velvet quest]

my turn say that about me now

[polar nymph]

You are the inferior condiment.

[clear pulsar]

I'm just extremely over it

[velvet quest]

[polar nymph]

I kid, you're alright

[tepid spoke]

wow fuji you're so right and good at the game you're never wrong about anything. is that what you wanted to achieve? cause there it is, have it.

[stray sigil]

ty

[tepid spoke]

[stray sigil]

its true i have never done wrong

only u and taxes

[late wraith]

what was tehre to get over?

[stray sigil]

get on my lvl

[late wraith]

we dropped it day of

[stray sigil]

pihhes

[late wraith]

this has all been in your head

[light dock]

dreamgrove, more like dramagrove amirite

[tepid spoke]

wow taxes you're so right and good at the game you're never wrong about anything. is that what you wanted to achieve? cause there it is, have it.

[polar nymph]

Hi Gala

[tepid spoke]

@hollow condor

[late wraith]

jesus christ

[stray sigil]

wronbg

wrong

wrong

wrong

wrong

[light dock]

why are we awake this early

[tepid spoke]

[polar nymph]

We both live extremely unhealthy lifestyles

[light dock]

so true bestie

why sleep when i can lurk and read drama

[polar nymph]

I like the cat in your photo

[clear pulsar]

End it.

[stray sigil]

end me

[light dock]

[stray sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-the-frog-sad-sad-face-meme-tears-gif-16441527

[velvet quest]

you know why this happened? lake didnt come here and tell us all to have wonderful days

its actually her fault

[polar nymph]

Looks like it has attitude

[light dock]

all the best cats do fr

[polar nymph]

Yep

[light dock]

these my real fellas

[polar nymph]

Meowers!

[light dock]

they don’t let me take pictures when they’re awake

xD

[tepid spoke]

end it all

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/583193484962299916/1169254364146311189/IMG_3132_2.gif?ex=65a7ca7c&is=6595557c&hm=6f002baa2b9433e0811958653c357858dfcf18903f2622963a0233d2016e492d&=&width=692&height=671

[polar nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/gotcha-cat-jump-pounce-gif-17515112

[light dock]

apex predator

[polar nymph]

[tropic schooner]

ofc it is

she wants to see us suffer

[stray sigil]

@tiny oar

[main igloo]

https://wowarenalogs.com/match?id=47b46718e3fa8897cf33d5cf0f7468bb&roundId=undefined
Got this round of SS. Sketchiest one of the bunch
Judge away

[main igloo]

yeah I noticed

https://wowarenalogs.com/match?id=5b2dd21c6c80061f8210f70f20e1cced&roundId=2

Theres no video sadly, I got mine locally I think

[tropic schooner]

why are you invis for like good 10s

while your team is already fighting

[main igloo]

They aint taking dmg are they

[tropic schooner]

you also arent doing damage/arent positioning

just standing in a spot the DH can attack you after

[main igloo]

Positioning was very mid on there yeah

[clear pulsar]

Do you not press bash at all that round?

Oh bash clone DH once

[main igloo]

DR'd clone too :/

[clear pulsar]

Man I have a hard time with this type of replay

[tropic schooner]

yea the replay is tricky

but to me looks like a lot of bad movement

[main igloo]

Hold on, i'll put my crappy UI on roast distance

[clear pulsar]

So like here you probably should have crossed to the south platform

You'd run from hunter and if the priest wanted to chase you to fear, the casters could split them

So then when they do push forward you can take the pillar like here, but 3s later you cross to the platform that I was talking about and kinda abandon the ele. You end up running to the middle of the ma on top of the priest, probably to try to heal the ele thats out of los now? But shoulda just gone back to behind this pillar.

I think it's important to just avoid the MM

They dont always run pet so if they arent, they'll have a rly hard time trapping unless you run on top of them

[polar nymph]

Priest is probably also highly unlikely to cross the map to fear you in the south while his Hunter is up in the north area because the Hunter becomes potentially vulnerable if swapped to in that moment.

And you have a golden opportunity to stun clone the Priest far from his Hunter.

That mockup makes it look like a very long distance, not sure how much in reality

[clear pulsar]

Alternatively

[main igloo]

Cant share video cause its 193 MB :<

[clear pulsar]

Go in, rake stun DH, bash hunter, maim healer, clone, make out like a dang bandit

[polar nymph]

Can upload to a throwaway YT account if you want to

[polar nymph]

This!

[clear pulsar]

Dont enable me

It's dangerous

[main igloo]

I used to do that but I found more consistency in climbinb when I just healed and threw the odd cyclone

Thats my 2s Form :>

Can do wetransfer I guess if y'all really interested

[clear pulsar]

I'm coming back stronger than ev before this week I will nev ev lose

[stray sigil]

[clear pulsar]

I'm grinding anima in shadowlands for path of ascension @stray sigil

Nothing but Ws

[livid wasp]

is destro lock really about just keeping up the dot, spamming conflagrate and chaos bolt

[stray sigil]

[stray sigil]

portals

[livid wasp]

ofc but dmg

idk if I should buy next expansion and boost me one

[stray sigil]

portals a large chunk of ur dmg

i dont even think u bolt all that much do u

like u have reset on portals

immo

shadowburns and conflag

[livid wasp]

okay no idea how it works

I didnt look up any guides

[grand mesa]

keep immos up, spam ur instants (conflag/shadowburn), instant cast incinerate proc, and send portals

and if u have space u can bolt some ye

[clear pulsar]

Ideally you also cast fear

[grand mesa]

if u proc like fire rift from tier set it's p good

and if u have multiple then it's gg

tier set really enables rift gaming tbh

[livid wasp]

I see them bolt pretty often

[grand mesa]

i don't think u can ride on just portals cause ur at the mercy of immo proccing a reset on a charge from tier. and sometimes u just don't get it even with 3+

[river solstice]

Dead

[grand mesa]

im enjoying the hell out of my lock cyon

[river solstice]

I played lock so much

[grand mesa]

aren't u a lock enthusiast

[river solstice]

I can hear the ability

As I look at that icon

[grand mesa]

i tried demo

i am lost

[river solstice]

Indeed I am

Demo is pretty simple tbh once you get it

What are you struggling with? The ramp?

[grand mesa]

u hold tyrant for gfg always?

nah it's just the juggling plates i just have to hiot dummies for a while and get used to it

[river solstice]

In pvp it may be diff but I send it if tyrant isn’t back for over 45seconds /1 min

[grand mesa]

oh i was talking keys

the 1.5m tyrant

adn 2 minute gfg

[river solstice]

I won’t hold it long

Kinda depends where we are in the dungeon too

I try to not lose a use

[grand mesa]

also like

when do i implode

[river solstice]

But also if a bigger pull is coming up where I would use tyrant with it

I hold it

[grand mesa]

the green bars on left

are imps

[river solstice]

Yeah I don’t do imp trackers

They fuck with me

I see how many I have out by looking at the implosion icon LMAO

But generally

You implode after every 2-3 hand of guldan

Sometimes you can ramp up to like 20 imps and send em all

If it’s easier you can just implode around 6 imps minimum

[river solstice]

Yeah it’s kind of tab target angle

[grand mesa]

and with tier u tab demonbolts

[river solstice]

Yes

If they don’t have the debuff you demon bolt em

Target one hit em, target the next hit em, press hog, target next hit em, depending if 3 shards or not you would hog or then hit the next then hog then you would implode

Repeat

[grand mesa]

and when tyrant extends

does it refresh base duration

• X seconds?

like flourish?

err VI

[river solstice]

I think it just extends and doesn’t refresh

That is one thing I do not know

[grand mesa]

ok so there's no gaming of like

[river solstice]

And you can send an implosion near the end of tyrant

[grand mesa]

letting GFG almost run its whole course

then

tyranting

[river solstice]

I think it just extends

I don’t think you get the base back + an extension

And the demons summoned afterward obvi don’t extend but they do get buffed

[grand mesa]

yeah i figure i learn how to do it in m+ so im comfy witht he damage buttons before i try pvp lol

although destro looks fun af in keys rn with the CDF and cataclysm ROF shit

and sending rifts

[river solstice]

I do not play cdf anymore

I think you can make some use of it but

It’s not that good imo

Destro is pretty good atm and not as bad as it was. Nor as bad as ppl claim

Tbh I want them to rework aff and buff it

Shit is in a terrible state

[grand mesa]

mad they chose

s1 tier

for pvp atleast

i like the rifts

[river solstice]

For destro?

[grand mesa]

yeah

[river solstice]

I didn’t even look tbh

[grand mesa]

proccing 2+ flame rifts and killing hunters thru turtle

behind a pillar

[river solstice]

Ider what the tier was

[grand mesa]

is funny

it's uh

chance to get 10-% crit chance and CHD going from 200 to 208%

or something

[river solstice]

[wanton ridge]

that sounds boring

[haughty compass]

Anyone play Druid in here still? lol

[grand mesa]

Yeah I saw a Kalamazi video about destro rising

I can’t believe I watch Kalamazi stuff now but here we are

[random patrol]

I only play chicken atm

though since I caught the covid last week I haven't logged on

[river solstice]

Tbh I do not watch him

Any time I am curious I simply dm the rank 1 warlock

[safe heart]

I played a feral shuffle earlier if that counts pykan

[stray sigil]

[stray sigil]

howd that go

[safe heart]

3-3 but should've been a 5-1

1 L was a cross kill where I very definitively killed them first

And then another we just barely lost , guy was at like 20k hp when my partner died

[stray sigil]

[safe heart]

Was actually bullshit cuz I swear, the guy died, the match stopped THEN our guy died

And it gave us the L

[crystal forge]

@late wraith @tiny oar we run it back this weekend dh might be geared idk

I’ll prob farm conquest on it

[tiny lion]

Does anyone else hate i when its call to battle i.e. win 4 battlegrounds, and the complete nubs go in to BG's

[clear pulsar]

No

[tropic schooner]

no

[tiny lion]

Then how do you win?

[tropic schooner]

same way as always?

even if wed assume you are correct that more noobs would play

that increases your chance to win

[stray sigil]

heres how u win bgs

u roll the dice

u go next

thats all

[tepid spoke]

WRONG

you play dhs

[stray sigil]

[crystal forge]

I play dh!!

[stray sigil]

[tepid spoke]

Thats you looking at me

[stray sigil]

[tiny oar]

hmmmm

[tiny oar]

[crystal forge]

It’s actually quite fun

And I get a purge

[tiny oar]

I have every healer at max level but I wouldnt say that I play hpal or I play priest XD

[stray sigil]

or rdru

or mw

or rsham

[tiny oar]

why do u say things that are BLATANTLY UNTRUE

[tiny oar]

I WAKE UP AND GET SLANDERED INSTANTLY EVERY DAY

https://tenor.com/view/every-day-every-day-i-wake-up-i-wake-up-marriage-story-marriage-story-wake-up-gif-19948669

[crystal forge]

cowarcd

tbf if i played priest like u did id also say i didnt play it

[tiny oar]

"WOMAN ALLY" TREVY YA RIGHT YA BOT CYA

[stray sigil]

[stray sigil]

i swear every rdru i play with is the worst disc in the world

david lake and puzzle

and matt

[crystal forge]

David is pretty good at disc

[tiny oar]

ALMOST LIKE I DONT PLAY IT THE LAST 3 EXPANSIONS LIKE I DID RDRU

[stray sigil]

we dont have the same expectations ig

[tiny oar]

someone plays 20000 games on one spec and 1000 on another wonder which one they're gonna be better at!!+

[crystal forge]

honestly as long as i dont die im gaming

[tiny lion]

Then why you on a druid discord bruh?

[tiny oar]

[clear pulsar]

I can add 1 more to that lemme know when yo uwanna q

[crystal forge]

LOL

why would i play druid? every dps spec is dogshit rn

[tiny lion]

Oh, you are 22 and can't find a date, got it

[stray sigil]

[crystal forge]

ur an idiot LOL

ur name fits

[tiny lion]

You're playing a DH and on a druid discord, who is the idiot here?

And I got that from your profile, or did you forgot you typed that

And I'm guessing your typing one handed atm LOL

[crystal forge]

didnt know if u alted classes u cant talk in ur mains discord

[grand mesa]

bro

i do not understand

what disc do

to make bars go up

it escapes me

[tiny lion]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-be-bruh-beluga-gif-25964074

[clear pulsar]

L buddy

Today was my day to be an idiot

Try again tomorrow

[crystal forge]

rofl

[tiny lion]

It's already tomorrow for me, I'm Australian

almost the end of the work day

[crystal forge]

that explains ur lack of IQ

[tiny lion]

Really how is that?

Expain this to me

[crystal forge]

u

are

dumb

[tiny lion]

you

are

projecting

[crystal forge]

someone come collect their white name

what spec do u play

[tiny oar]

I'm gonna die of cringe plz stop

[tiny lion]

guardian

[crystal forge]

holy shit ur autistic and it makes sense

[tiny lion]

and you obviously never do RBG's

[tiny oar]

[tiny lion]

I'm guessing you fight in the middle with the rest of the ADHD tards

[random patrol]

[tiny lion]

ooooh you are a twitch streamer. explains fucking EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!

[crystal forge]

ur actually 2 iq LOL

[stray sigil]

guardian player

[crystal forge]

my 6 years as a druid means nothing i dont play it for 1 tier LOL