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lime light
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its just chaos like that

stray sigil
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i dont think bolt is the only thing that works like that

velvet quest
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Doesn’t chaos bolt still hit through turtle if they turtle after cast?

velvet quest
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I’ve had it happen to me in pve too

stray sigil
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but i think thats true

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for a lot of shit

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not just bolt

velvet quest
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Walled a fireball thing after cast finished and it did 50-0 in a not super high key

stray sigil
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its just cuz bolt is very slow projectile

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so its easier to see

livid wasp
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so a player turning invisible makes it not hit him

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but doesnt apply to anything else

stray sigil
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theres an iframe

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to meld

grand mesa
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Because the damage isn’t calculated in the air. You’re just making yourself immune with meld when the damage hits

livid wasp
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hes still there at that exact spot when he shadowmelds, it should hit him

stray sigil
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its not just invisibility

grand mesa
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It’s an iframe

velvet quest
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Late cloak and bubble immune dmg still right?

stray sigil
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yeah

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its not super consistent i dont think

livid wasp
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calculate the dmg when it hits the player not after cast

stray sigil
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they would just speed up the projectile speed

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wouldnt really change anything

grand mesa
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I think the better argument is why meld has an iframe lol

stray sigil
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i think if it didnt

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meld would be kinda turbo useless

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but ye

grand mesa
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still good for drinks and like breaking idk Ray of frost and shit like that

stray sigil
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also why its stupid strong so idk

grand mesa
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But yeah I do enjoy melding cc

lime light
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cuz it was too easy to break

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thats why

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meld works this way

grand mesa
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I think it’s super skill ceiling to meld cool shit

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melding blinds and pet stuns

livid wasp
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its so broken you can avoid a chaos bolt with it

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and its easy

grand mesa
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you don’t avoid a chaos bolt with it

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You immune it

livid wasp
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even better

lime light
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yep thats what i said earlier

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u are immune for a very short time

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when u press meld

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but it wasntr like that, when EP was young

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brave

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humble

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handsome

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jacked

velvet quest
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How does melding blind work? There’s a delay in the button being pressed and u being affected by blind and u can meld in a tiny window? Or is it just making urself untargettable for a second to stop a cc setup?

stray sigil
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yeh 40 years ago in classic

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meld was uselss

lime light
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wanst that far away

grand mesa
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where nothing hits you

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Can meld blind I’ve melded hoj, stormbolts are easy, psychic scream etc

lime light
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i dont think so u can meld a blind

velvet quest
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Yeah but if you premeld blind the cast still goes off? Wouldn’t they drop target?

lime light
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i have never seen that

stray sigil
grand mesa
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you do it when they hit it

lime light
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someone melds a blind

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ah ye

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this one ye for sure

stray sigil
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i think rog bl;ind impossible or like

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if u do

lime light
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i thought u were talking about rogue blind

grand mesa
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I’m pretty sure I’ve definitely melded rogue blind

lime light
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ye u cant do that

stray sigil
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its the luckiest shit

grand mesa
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it was such a 50-50 guess

stray sigil
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cuz u would have to do it

velvet quest
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I melded a coil once that was cool but I think it was accidental I have old person reflexes

stray sigil
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on the exact global

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doesnt seem doable

grand mesa
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like he kidneyed and I had a feeling he would blind

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So I just melded

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But it’s such a fucking guess

clear pulsar
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Melding CC is gaslighting

grand mesa
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I mean hoj is the same way no?

velvet quest
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I just don’t understand how the blind still targets you and goes on cd without hitting you if it doesn’t have travel time idk

clear pulsar
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It rly doesnt exist

grand mesa
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You meld hoj the same way

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it goes on CD on omnibar

stray sigil
grand mesa
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And you don’t get stunned

lime light
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no, cuz some of the abilites are like instant - like blind

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and some has longer animaition

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has to land

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like hoj

stray sigil
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like hoj goes from top and to u

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really fast

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but it has a lil wind up

grand mesa
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I guess I had like exteme luck the one time I did it in SL

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Should have clipped it lmao

lime light
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idk i dont think so u can meld a rogues blind or idk

stray sigil
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but like

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its luck more than anything

grand mesa
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liek frame perfect shit

stray sigil
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would have to be on the exact same gcd

lime light
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i rememeber incarn stealthing the storm bolts

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but u still get stunned in a stealth

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so it ends up u being stunned in stealth

stray sigil
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theres no iframe

lime light
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🐒

stray sigil
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on prowl

lime light
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ye ofc

grand mesa
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Stormbolts are probably the easiest of the instant CC imo cause the travel time is so long

lime light
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thats what iam saying

stray sigil
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i think there used to be

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in like wod or mop

lime light
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troll gaming forever

grand mesa
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you just wait for it to light up on omnibar

stray sigil
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maybe

lime light
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imagine if ep was a nelf

grand mesa
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then press

river solstice
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Merry Christmas @vestal citrus got you some

lime light
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ye its easy

velvet quest
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Yeah so rogue targets you, hits blind, you meld like 0.01s before blind cast goes off and it doesn’t untarget you in time? And maybe the 0.01s window is bigger than that idk but that’s how the timeline would have to work in my head

grand mesa
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But it was my wonkiest meld

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lol

lime light
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u guys dont have cars in america ? @river solstice

river solstice
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Puzzle diff fr fr

river solstice
grand mesa
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I even got knocked down animation from sweep but still immuned the stun

river solstice
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I’m actually in my car rn

lime light
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ye

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blind is another thing

stray sigil
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u need same gcd

lime light
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like

stray sigil
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literally same

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u press same time

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theres not a lot ofcc like blind though

grand mesa
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Idk melding cc is cool shit I wish they added more stuff like that

stray sigil
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cuz blind is targetted and instant

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with no travel time

velvet quest
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Leg sweep it makes more sense because it doesn’t require targeting I can’t wrap my head around targeted insta cc meld working

lime light
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all u need to know about meld is that

stray sigil
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its op

lime light
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after u press it

stray sigil
lime light
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u are immune

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like a bubble

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to anything

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for a very short time

stray sigil
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wdym maybe

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mfer

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i am right

velvet quest
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Fuji always right he’s the best player and smartest person here (pvp and pve)

stray sigil
grand mesa
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I never got the sense that hoj had a travel time

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Bolt obv like it floats in the air

stray sigil
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i mean u see it

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in ur video

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the super small travel tiem of hoj

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the animation

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theres no animation for blind

grand mesa
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That animation of going down?

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On me?

stray sigil
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ye

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u see it

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lol

grand mesa
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Now I do lmao

stray sigil
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thats the difference with blind

grand mesa
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Oh ssds was in this one wtf

lime light
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there is a big windown

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in the one

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u can meld the hoj

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u have plenty of time

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like in the gif

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u melded same gcd

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but u could do it later

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and would still work

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cuz of that "animation" travel time

grand mesa
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yeah I think the iframe window is really generous

lime light
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yeah

grand mesa
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it feels really generous Atleast

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it could probably be shorter and still OP

livid wasp
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why does full moon hit for 500k

velvet quest
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Cause you let them cast it tettleslul

clear pulsar
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Real

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Just line it

grand mesa
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Isn’t it a proc now

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Off moonfire

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The old torghast power

livid wasp
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wish feral did that sort of dmg too

grand mesa
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Orbit breaker or whatever

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you do it’s called ferocious bite

livid wasp
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ferocious nibble

clear pulsar
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The proc is nerfed value

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Not 100% full moon hit

haughty compass
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ferocious nibble tettleslul

clear pulsar
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Ferocious nibble for 250k no crit

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Shits ridiculous

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Zechey clearly hasnt healed against feral

grand mesa
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The complaint has never been from sane ferals that the damage isn’t there right

clear pulsar
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Shit's oppressive

grand mesa
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Just survivability/gameplay of spam clone

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@stray sigil

livid wasp
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healing is always oppressive

velvet quest
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Bad ferals just do low dmg cause they’re constantly scared for their life and not playing agro enough to do dmg (I would know)

stray sigil
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@clear pulsar

stray sigil
lime light
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19 cm penis?

stray sigil
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thats too big for @edgy shale

clear pulsar
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Wtf is cm

edgy shale
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wcm

stray sigil
clear pulsar
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I'm at the family function

stray sigil
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but im ur broder

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nice inv

stray quail
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Hey anyone have good tips how to survive as feral vs 4mele lobby in solo shuffle ? around 1.8k-2k cr. seems like i am really hard stuck vs mele groups,like the moment when i go out of bear i to try clone i kinda die during the fake/hard cast clones... ? is my fault or is it just healers dont know how to deal ferals at that cr ?

livid wasp
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I think its a problem every feral faces

velvet quest
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when fuji queues against 3 melee, all three of them go to their class discords after and ask how to not get owned by a feral

clear pulsar
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Real

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Actually real

livid wasp
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I want to be that feral

velvet quest
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@stray sigil zechey wants to be u

stray sigil
livid wasp
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its hard by only doing rbgs

stone sonnet
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why cant I que random bgs with 2 friends?

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all on same realm same faction

tropic schooner
stone sonnet
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like I press que button

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nothing happens

tropic schooner
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prolly someone queued

stone sonnet
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nah we checked that already

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we all got on alts just for bgs

livid wasp
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queues down?

grand mesa
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Is someone on deserter or something

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No clue

stone sonnet
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like I said I checked for basically everything

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I asked because I was hoping someone would say bgs are down or something

clear pulsar
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Tried just reforming the group?

stone sonnet
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yes

polar nymph
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It's easy to heal against Feral

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Just tell your teammates to hit the cat

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How do you lose Face?

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HOW DO YOU LOSE?

random patrol
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just spray the feral with water

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ferals hate water

velvet quest
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@stray sigil its keys time

stray sigil
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i just did 2h of raid bro

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its joever

grand mesa
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He got so much loot

pallid granite
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Halp Frens. i can't seem to do dmg as a feral? idk everyone out damages me...

velvet quest
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hard to help if u dont give any more info than that. do u have a details screenshot at the very least?

pallid granite
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yea, I usual heal resto but I wanna scratch, Ya know?

tiny oar
stray sigil
stray sigil
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ultimate chad version of myself

grand mesa
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(its a nightmare)

stray sigil
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for now

grand mesa
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yeah im sure you'll pop off and do well eventually

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until then

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i am enjoying my window of time to shit on you

stray sigil
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@velvet quest

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u see this

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ppl praying on my demise

grand mesa
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Wdym. Didn’t I just reaffirm my faith that I think you will succeed

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and thrive in pveland

stray sigil
velvet quest
grand mesa
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Idk man I still did keys with him where are you

velvet quest
grand mesa
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Ah yes the classic late Monday night “hey btw if ur not done i can help with keys oh u got your 8 shucks ok well don’t forget I asked to see if u need help okaybye”

stray sigil
velvet quest
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this isnt pvp puzzle theres no script im just a big fan of fuji and want him to succeed and i didnt get to do keys until tonight

stray sigil
velvet quest
stray sigil
velvet quest
polar nymph
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Of course it does, I'm the main character of this channel

velvet quest
tiny oar
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Ah yes the classic late Monday night “hey btw if ur not done i can help with keys oh u got your 8 shucks ok well don’t forget I asked to see if u need help okaybye”

stray sigil
random patrol
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@tiny oar just do 40 yolos monday night

crystal forge
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I’m single again house husband services are back @quick summit focus up we got kung foo panda 4 out soon

velvet quest
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Lake just mad she didn’t get the ping

rigid linden
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is feral just bite spec now

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i dont know bc i havent played 1 game this sssn as feral

tiny oar
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why do I come here

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u all just gatekeep gaslight like its ur full time job

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its gross grow up

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I know more about it for myself than 90% of the population will ever feel

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nah I'm 1000% real rn

crystal forge
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it looks so good too

crystal forge
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1 roster resignation opens a spot for another what do u want

tiny oar
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what's the trevy lore gimmie a tldr

crystal forge
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its true i do deserve better but its all good i just hope she realizes her mistakes and wants to fix them

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her dad is cool tho we protect him

tiny oar
crystal forge
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im good tbh

tropic schooner
velvet quest
sturdy patio
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Hi just a quick Resto question, in the pinned notes it says 4 piece is not worth it. Does that mean I should rush it or I shouldn't use it at all and would rather get better stats on conquest/crafted gear?

stray sigil
bright root
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Is there a dumbass guide for getting started with rdruid in SS or rbgs?

clear pulsar
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Not worth it means... it isnt worth using it

sturdy patio
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Okay, just making sure 🙂

clear pulsar
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I think I understood the question

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Now

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But that threw me for a fucken loop

random patrol
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conquest stil capped

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guess it's yolos for vault then log off for 6 days again

tropic schooner
crystal forge
tropic schooner
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I read that one earlier and I was just as confused

clear pulsar
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I think was the question

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Like you wouldnt prio it in vault or something

tropic schooner
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hm

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maybe but that sounds a bit weird of an interpretation

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but the original thing was also very confusing

clear pulsar
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Thats the best I could do

safe heart
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Reading has never been important

quick summit
random patrol
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just rem you can't get kicked on clone if you don't run it

frosty prawn
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does iridal work in arena (edit : works, is nerfed and doesn't hit too hard, sub 100k)

radiant kite
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I can't seem to find info on it anywhere but what is making Fury of Elune go faster than an F1 car in BG's?

clear pulsar
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Hm

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Can you assure me what you're seeing is fury of elune

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And not something that looks like it?

clear pulsar
random patrol
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100 percent orbital

radiant kite
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ok yes that is it, looks so funny hahahaha

spice vine
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is silken more important than precog for resto druid as first embillishment?

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somehow at murlock website more ppl have silken than precog

tropic grove
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@vestal citrus explain shuffle, i go 6-0 and do +60, then i go 3-3 and go +41 ????

safe heart
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Why are ppl still confused about how shuffle mmr works

tropic schooner
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ppl dont understand matchmaking in any game

safe heart
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I do good and gain Lotta points , then I do worse and gain less points ???????

tiny oar
tropic grove
tropic schooner
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because your rating was lower then your mmr

stray sigil
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@clear pulsar

clear pulsar
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Literally everything I send this man

stray sigil
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ahhahaha

tame cedar
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Hi! Can you point me towards a high rated boomie on twitch that I cna check out?

midnight vector
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anyone for pvp?

clear pulsar
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Also corkiri ^ occasionally

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Real

teal stream
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Anyone have a macro line to dismiss my treants

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tried most things i could find online. they behave like totems but the totem click line not working

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cheers

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yikes

velvet quest
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yikes

midnight vector
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what other classes do you guys play?

safe heart
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Mw

midnight vector
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i dont know what to main, dh or feral

velvet quest
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i dont know what you should main either

midnight vector
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why is it fucked

safe heart
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Because you have 0 defensive and die fie free

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Practically unhealable

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And you can only win in 2nd incarn

midnight vector
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you have

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3 defensives

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why 0 ?

livid wasp
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youre masochistic if you roll feral now

midnight vector
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instincs,skin and bear form

safe heart
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Bear form is not a defensive

livid wasp
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imagine having to cast cyclone in the face of melees while being paper

midnight vector
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dh has 3 defensives too

safe heart
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Instincts is 3 minutes for 6 seconds

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Dh has good defensives

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Skin is your only good cd

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Bear form literally doesn't do anything

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And yeah what zechy said outside of incarn you have to cast cyclone in ppls faces to do dmg

midnight vector
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you have instnat cast

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from talents

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on procs

livid wasp
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I wish I did

velvet quest
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why ask a question and then argue with everyone as if u knew the answer from the beginning tettleslul

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play feral then its op and has great defensives such as bear form

safe heart
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Instant cast regrowth so u can cast a 30k heal

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And instant cast root so you can root someone for 1 global

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The only ppl who think bear form is good are people who have legit never pressed the button before

clear pulsar
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Feral is def a glass cannon. It isnt bad, just doesnt feel good to be paper. The main dif is other melees have tons of passive mitigation thru talents that give extra armor, extra DRs, absorbs, leech, etc. Feral has thick hide, maybe, sometimes.

random patrol
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they don't even have a little bit of armor like the chickens in their prime form

clear pulsar
# teal stream tried most things i could find online. they behave like totems but the totem cli...
/run if not UnitAffectingCombat("player")then for i=1,4 do n="t"..i CreateFrame("Button",n,UIParent,"SecureUnitButtonTemplate")_G[n]:SetAttribute("type", "destroytotem")_G[n]:SetAttribute("totem-slot",i)end end
/click t1
/click t2
/click t3
/click t4```
This just works, but is long
You can also use this weakaura to let you just write `/click MyTotemFrame1` etc and fit it into stealth drink macro, just change the load condition to be resto druid <https://wago.io/3fH2MR2PA>
river solstice
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face did u see my new mog 🙂

clear pulsar
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I didnt

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Do show @river solstice

stray sigil
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bald gnome mog ?

clear pulsar
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I'll show u my pala

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In a bit

river solstice
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Glyph

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Show urs then

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Oh

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Ty

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Yessir

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Wish I could use diff shoulders. I like them but just want em a bit smaller

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Damn goth mommy

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Is that a shirt or tabard

clear pulsar
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I rly like it

river solstice
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Ah fuck I can’t get it then

clear pulsar
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@river solstice

river solstice
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damn i shouldve went for that enchant

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it looks so good

safe heart
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@vestal citrus @river solstice damn both of those are S tier ngl

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What's the pants and shirt glyph

stray sigil
clear pulsar
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I hate u

stray sigil
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love how everyone glanced over @clear pulsar mog

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enji like nice mog cyon and glyph

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nobody says anything to that pos mog of face

tiny oar
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VerySadCat pls dont hit me I'm very weak and fragile

edgy shale
stray sigil
clear pulsar
stray sigil
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he felt bad for u

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rael ?

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@river solstice

clear pulsar
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Bitch

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I was talking to cyon

velvet quest
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i think face's mog looks cute

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in 1st grade i had a school play and my costume looked similar to that

stray sigil
grand mesa
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Poor face

river solstice
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I won’t engage in face slander

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Unless he’s in my key

stray sigil
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@clear pulsar

clear pulsar
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Yall are the devil

polar nymph
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why did you steal Nobbel's Fancy Boots?

polar nymph
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English pls

crystal forge
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focus up team

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we coming back to retail

tiny oar
crystal forge
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yeah

random patrol
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@tiny oar did a yolo the melee on the enemy team were triggering precog on my moonfires

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.......................

tiny oar
polar nymph
random patrol
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sounds bout right

main igloo
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I keep noticing people drop budding leaves x2 for reforeststion and the adaptive swarm split talent

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Is that really worth it….

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Feels bad

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Basically you drop 90% extra healing and 15% on blooms

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For a slightly higher uptime on a 20% extra on all heals and 1 tree.

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But gameplay changes in that you might have to actually hold swiftmend instead of just cast

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Might seem ok running vs high burst if you really need regrowth spam but other than that its pretty mid

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Might have to give it a try to see but I find higher value in having the longest uptime on CW+AS

gloomy nova
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@main igloo Lonthar was playing that yesterday so prob alot of people "follow". Cdew was also messing about with the talents.

I tried that spec in SS and it felt pretty good. The extra burst healing felt good.

But as always, every single player doesnt play the exact same spec. And generally top players tend to set the trend sometimes and while in some cases it works rly well for them it might not for you.

main igloo
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How does it feel though when youre holding onto 2 stackss of reforestation instead of just using your hots to its full potential?
(Cw, SoF’d Rejuv)
I havent tried it yet but it seems very clunky on paper

teal stream
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WS, imp RG or DS?

rotund basin
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as Resto should i play germination or tree of life when healign a caster cleave

clear fox
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But in reality depends on how you’re losing

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Germ is more throughput but costs more mana

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If you’re losing on mana consistently try out tree, but if the mages are dying way before mana is an issue go germ

clear fox
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Like beyond freak good so he can do things… different

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And that build is a 100% shuffle setup to optimize tree uptime in shorter rounds. Overall can just play the “old” talents and it’s much easier to pilot

next thunder
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do someone has a weak aura that tells you when ennemy heler is drinking ?
I saw Cdew having something like that, with a sound

velvet quest
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It’s probably just the mes weakaura package

teal stream
gloomy nova
grand mesa
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Can also prime your swiftmends in starting room

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Unless they fixed that

storm eagle
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Hey guys had a couple of really stupid questions for you lol have always liked my pvp but always done it on a ret pally, lately though have been really enjoying balance but have been a little unsure if i really need the moonkin form or not? as it looks like people are playing balance out of the form? also what are the main stats to b stacking is it versitility & haste or versitility and mastery? i see people saying both lol

some guidance would be very much appreciated cheers

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thank you very much lol told you they were stupid haha

tiny oar
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thank you very much glyph

polar nymph
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Elite mog obtained.

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Are you proud of me @tiny oar?

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3/3 1800s done

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I'm gaming so hard

tiny oar
polar nymph
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🙂

tropic grove
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@tepid spoke i want to die

tepid spoke
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Get it kitten

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Almost there

tiny oar
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u got this mikie get that bread

tropic grove
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thanks gang

grand mesa
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U got it bud

clear fox
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Ez

rigid linden
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kings

#

whos a feral i can watch

#

so i know wtf to do

clear pulsar
#

Fuji

safe heart
#

He made axtin

stray sigil
#

thats real

#

i made him

vale bane
#

should i prio weapon of 4 set as rdruid?

edgy shale
#

weppon

vale bane
edgy shale
#

doesn't rlly matter

clear pulsar
#

There is no club

forest kite
clear pulsar
#

Literally read the entire message pls?

forest kite
#

i don't use weakauras

#

make the macro smaller

#

too damn big

velvet quest
#

yeah face

clear pulsar
#

Miki the micri smillir

velvet quest
#

make the macro smaller

stray sigil
#

yeah make the macro smaller for entitled guy

forest kite
#

im not the one sitting around tailoring macros to suck at the game lol

#

make it smaller

stray sigil
#

wat

polar nymph
#

mk t smlr

stray sigil
#

ik u r1s are highschool dropouts and shit

#

but can u say that again

forest kite
#

oh stop

polar nymph
#

m t sr

forest kite
#

its not my job to fix it

polar nymph
#

What's happening here guys?

forest kite
#

if you can't condense it into another macro just say so

polar nymph
#

I just arrived

stray sigil
#

just some douchebag @polar nymph tettleslul

polar nymph
#

But that's all of us

polar nymph
#

Ohhhhhh

#

Nvm he dumb

velvet quest
#

i know who fuji is, hes famous. never heard of diuoe though

polar nymph
#

Who's fuji?

stray sigil
polar nymph
#

If only fuji knew DF Feral was about bleeds until Saber Jaws

light dock
#

fuck saber jaws

polar nymph
polar nymph
#

I like mixed damage profile.

light dock
#

so it just ends up being a massively lopsided buff to bite that tips our damage towards one button

polar nymph
#

Yeah

#

They can just rebalance talents to make one not cannibalise the other.

light dock
#

imo that whole row of 2 point nodes at the end - specifically CI and SJ - are just too strong

polar nymph
#

CI's position makes it fine imo.

light dock
#

i would like CI more if raging fury didnt exist

polar nymph
#

Yeah

light dock
#

but TF having ~80% uptime is cringe

polar nymph
#

But that's RF

light dock
#

true

polar nymph
#

I want them to buff Swarm

light dock
#

i want them to buff and then consolidate swarm

#

make it like 30-35% and make unbridled a part of adaptive

polar nymph
#

Yep

light dock
#

few things here and there, but overall i think the feral tree is great

#

the class tree, however... critcake

polar nymph
#

The class tree gives me depression

#

And they LIKE it

light dock
#

i love spending 6 talent points into useless boomy stuff so i can get a cc that should be baseline

polar nymph
#

They LIKE that crap

light dock
#

who's they?

#

you mean... them?

polar nymph
#

Blozzird

#

Even the Boomies hate the tree

light dock
#

when it was first released, i thought the druid class tree was fine - because i expected every class to have the same degree of opportunity cost as druid

#

but they said nah fuck it, give every other spec literally everything they used to have to choose between omegalul

polar nymph
#

I think it was the biggest victim of the initial lead dev for the talent tree project leaving in alpha.

#

It was also the first tree in a 'workable' state alongside Priest.

#

Other trees originally were way worse.

light dock
#

it also hasnt really been iterated on since very early development, except for when they reduced the point requirements in the %dmg nodes

#

but not lycara FeelsWeird

polar nymph
#

And that came in 10.0.5

#

Hot take time

#

But you could probably justify the 3 points on Lycara if it was a capstone.

#

Would still suck

light dock
#

i think it's an indicator of how shit the tree is to even mention that lycara could be a capstone at all keks

#

the only class with worse capstones than druid is monk, cause they just get 3 statues LOL

clear pulsar
#

This is all just philosophical tho

polar nymph
#

Monk statues 😛

clear pulsar
#

If you had more things you'd just get nerfed to accomodate it

#

Like yeah the tree is weird

light dock
#

not necessarily lol

#

other specs got their trees reworked and have been consistently top tier because of it

polar nymph
#

I think Druid being the most locked in on off spec things is a weird philosophy.

clear pulsar
#

Yeah then they get nerfed to accomodate the new power scaling of the new trees

#

Where is ret rn?

light dock
#

look at warrior or rogue

polar nymph
#

Ret got nerfed for being the most overpowered spec since launch Havoc DH

clear pulsar
#

Which druid spec are you impyling isnt staying afloat rn?

light dock
#

when i say "staying afloat" i mean consistently top-tier

polar nymph
#

I think there's just too many active buttons in the top section that don't add much to the 4 specs at all without having a lot of modifiers.

#

Is there really any reason to have buttons like Starfire or Rip there?

light dock
#

there's just too much overlap of all 4 specs where it doesnt make sense... stuff like sunfire, starfire, moon form, thrash etc. dont belong where they are

#

they're just pad nodes

#

they took the affinities that used to be 4 consolidated talents, tore them apart and said "that's half your tree"

polar nymph
#

A class with 4 specs is already going to have a harder time selecting useful things than the 2 and 3 spec classes are with the same point budget.

#

If the tree was built with a better answer to that it wouldn't feel as bad compared to other classes.

#

Or if buttons like Rejuvenation weren't so pitifully bad on their own.

#

It just turns them in to point sinks

light dock
#

obviously much easier to design a tree for 3 rogue specs that all share core gameplay

polar nymph
light dock
#

not in the same manner as most other classes

#

hunter specs all have the same core class mechanics
rogues all have the same core class mechanics
warriors all have the same core class mechanics, etc...

polar nymph
#

I would have thought the Resto line would be the easiest to make desirable to all 4 specs but apparently not.

light dock
#

or bear, ye

#

and tbf bear is mostly appealing

#

it's just... shit

polar nymph
#

Bear has less stuff.

#

Which is why it's more appealing

#

It's 2 buttons that are spaced farther

light dock
#

astral influence is also just way too overpowered

polar nymph
#

Yep

light dock
#

which is very problematic imo

polar nymph
#

But you can't nerf it

#

You'd see a demonstration at Blizzard HQ from Druids

light dock
#

i would be one of them

#

i play from oce and the extra yardage is the reason i play feral

light dock
#

oce gang 🫡 🇦🇺 🦘 🍺

polar nymph
#

Breakfast

light dock
#

@fallen dove australia mentioned. represent

polar nymph
#

@vestal citrus @quick summit

#

Aus mentioned

#

Interesting

light dock
edgy shale
polar nymph
#

Oh yeah

#

@modest plaza Aus mentioned, represent.

#

You got the word banned...

light dock
#

it's like banning the word hello

polar nymph
#

Time to spend 6 hours working on a singular section of the main road by spending 5 of those 6 hours standing around watching someone else do the work.

#

And doing it in peak hour traffic.

light dock
#

strayaaaa 🫡

light dock
#

i got swooped on my balcony the other day Okayge

#

felt so proud of myself

polar nymph
#

Did you throw your boomerang at it in retaliation?

light dock
#

nah just swore at it and came inside

#

was on the phone, so i had to seem normal

fast kernel
#

RBG talent question for Blitzes and feral. How important is cyclone? I see the value in capping bases and the feral frenzy addition amazing but I’m struggling with the rotation. It’s clunky for me. Is it worth working on the rotation and the practice?

velvet quest
#

it is worth working on the rotation and practicing if u want to do more dmg yeah

#

idk your question kinda answers itself

#

in bgs id say just go for cyclones every opportunity u can, and from there u can learn to track DRs and recognize when its a bad time to cyclone. will never learn how to use an ability properly if u just never use it

fast kernel
#

Yeah, I think it does and I’m probably just being lazy haha!

fast kernel
#

It’s just awkward to use and newer to me. I just need to practice it more.

quick summit
#

I am gonna be putting in my citizenship app this week finally (I'm just really lazy)

dark vigil
#

Hi dreamgrove!!! I really need some advice anyone here that’s really good about computers Gpus specs processors etc available to help me real quick please?

tiny oar
velvet quest
#

Mommy

light dock
tiny oar
#

samurai shit

#

ready to study the fucking BLADE, pal

light dock
tiny oar
light dock
#

tbf im running male nelf right now so who am i to judge

#

hellll yea

livid wasp
#

a lot of hunters around

tropic grove
#

I KEEP GOING 3-3

#

mental booming

woven seal
#

Thoughts on cat vs moonkin build for resto in 2s? Also liveliness vs master shapeshifter

tropic grove
#

@tiny oar @tepid spoke finally

tiny oar
#

proud of you sweetie knew u could do it

light dock
#

what are the names in here

livid wasp
tropic grove
livid wasp
#

the fuck?

light dock
#

the fuck?

livid wasp
#

I should try to go for 2.1k too but I dont want to be angry so I cant queue

light dock
#

i spent all 6 rounds just begging one of the 3 other ranged/semi-ranged specs in the lobby to snipe dh eyes so i could have an opener

#

they never did sadge

livid wasp
#

yeah its so annoying

#

dh uses it, I go behind pillar, other dps goes with me behind pillar

#

and he just follows me

light dock
#

or - my personal favourite - you wait out eyes, then get hit by immo aura and lose prowl anyway

livid wasp
#

yeah

#

I wish I could be like snupy and not care and just queue

tiny oar
light dock
river solstice
tropic grove
#

now need to wait a few weeks for mmr adjustements Prayge

maiden viper
#

what's the point of having trophy catchup when bloody tokens are an absolute pain to farmmmmmmmzzzzzzz

dark vigil
dark vigil
vale bane
#

is it a sin to play anything other than nelf?

clear pulsar
#

No kultiran is bis

#

Just knock a fool tf out

stray sigil
#

face plays kultiran to cope that he is a gnome irl

vale bane
#

I was kinda thinking going zandalari

#

the dino forms are kinda sick

stray sigil
haughty compass
livid wasp
#

tauren

tropic schooner
#

not surprised

tiny oar
#

eve agrees too

#

I got a psyduck in pokemon violet and named it after u @tropic schooner

tropic schooner
#

😠

velvet quest
#

lake didnt name anything after me

#

cause she hates me

tiny oar
tiny oar
grand mesa
tropic schooner
#

"WOOPS"

kind drift
#

does someone know if you play 4set on boomie in pvp? i've heard some people say no but it looks pretty decent

opal kelp
#

how much haste has everyone been running before getting some mastery?

random patrol
#

4 set is bleh for boomy, better maximizing your secondaries

#

(you can run it though if you must)

clear pulsar
#

It's bugged with incarn in pvp so it may not be worth

#

If it worked in incarn it'd be a no brainer

#

Basically looking at 800 crit vs 4p bonus

haughty compass
#

1-5 in a streamer lobby on main, the shame

empty thicket
#

Is photosynthsis really that good for SS? I see people picking that over germination or budding leaves and i'm not sure why.

#

You want to keep that to yourself in order to get more Omen of Clarity procs so you utilize your set better or something like that?

clear pulsar
#

4p isnt good

#

You dont care to play around it in pvp anymore

#

Photo is just great idk bro it does a lot of great things

#

Who you pick to lifebloom is basically who's taking damage

#

Altho generally speaking you dont wanna change targets with it for any random damage

stray sigil
#

would u lb me face

safe heart
#

fuji im almost 1900 in 2s now

empty thicket
empty thicket
#

If you pick germination, you would get one more mastery modifier or if you pick budding leaves lifebloom will heal a bit more.

#

I'm kinda slow to grasp these kinds of thing, what i'm missing?

tepid spoke
#

Photo on yourself makes all hots tick 20% faster

#

And the 4% chance to bloom is a lot

#

Since its for every hot

#

So your bloom is almost perma blooming

#

Also you can take 2 bl and germ too.

midnight vector
#

what spec do you guys recommend for pvp battlegrounds? feral/balance/resto?

tiny oar
#

ty g

midnight vector
#

from all 3 healing spec - druid-sham-monk, which one do you recommend for bg-s?

dark vigil
tiny oar
midnight vector
#

@tiny oar where can i see the best pvp builds for bg-s? murlok io or some other site is better?

empty thicket
empty thicket
midnight vector
#

@empty thicket why mw

empty thicket
#

guess thats what i was missing

midnight vector
#

over sham and druid

empty thicket
#

decent healing output, mana, mobility easily to play with and it has revival

#

stuns are aoe, ring is useful as fuck, can do a lot of good things you place port smartly

#

earlier this season i was part of a group, healing as rdru and despite me being top heals every bg they kinda kicked me out

dark vigil
#

Woah congratz with what partner fistweaver?

safe heart
#

Rsham and pres evoker

clear pulsar
#

Damn mf cheating

#

Playing 3v2

safe heart
#

REAL

#

Feral needs 2 healers just to live

atomic radish
#

How do you play grove guardians? Are they something you want to keep on cool down or save for an emergency? Pop all at once or keep one rolling as much as possible

livid wasp
#

any wow new years resolutions?

velvet quest
#

Yeah, mine is to stop letting lake’s toxicity ruin my day

livid wasp
#

ill play arena every day, I am going to be really good

velvet quest
velvet quest
#

Prime example, three question marks is very aggressive

empty thicket
#

I used to watch you a lot some years ago

atomic radish
empty thicket
# atomic radish 2v2 3v3

not sure if I'm doing the most optimal usage, but i use it before a enemy setup, like a hunter's trap along with cward if needed. I also always keep one tree up, unless i intend to drink

#

sometimes i also use it before pushing for a bash, so i have something to leap for

clear fox
#

You almost always want to keep one on cooldown, just so you’re not wasting charges over time. I tend to just dumb them in groups during cooldowns or goes

stray sigil
midnight vector
#

i feel like blizzard is failing to develop and maintain their game still, after so many years of experience

tiny oar
empty thicket
#

twitch is weird sometimes, idk

tiny oar
subtle geode
# livid wasp any wow new years resolutions?

I'm going to finally decide what I want to do in the game and focus on it. I am trying to do all of it.. Mythic plus, mythic raiding, and PvP.. and I just don't have the free time to become great at all of them. The problem is, I like all 3.. On different toons, for different reasons.

random patrol
#

non cause new years res are dumb

#

prob drink more though

velvet quest
#

@crystal forge imposter? VerySadCat

crystal forge
#

imposter

#

im building a factory rn

velvet quest
#

ur roster couldnt fit into a regular building?

faint grove
#

As an r Druid in shuffle - I know I keep lifebloom up in main target. But what do I do with the second? Should I generally keep it on myself or put on the 2nd dps just in case they swap/cleave?

#

Awesome tyvm

livid wasp
safe heart
#

m+ is fun but for whatever reason its just unsatisfying

#

like i get ksm and have no drive to go farther

livid wasp
#

do you just push your own keys to go ksm

safe heart
#

in pvp its like getting the 2100 enchant is like bare minimum

safe heart
#

i went from 0 - 1850 io in like 2 nights

#

at like 450 ilvl

livid wasp
#

I bet its fun trying to get in decent ones as feral

clear fox
#

But also 2100 a pretty aggressive “bare minimum” for PvP

random patrol
#

the only fun mpluses are 0 healer mplus

livid wasp
#

I cant get accepted into +2 kek

safe heart
safe heart
#

NEVER

clear fox
#

You’ve done it once

#

Why not again

safe heart
#

im gunna try hundo p

#

i think i can do it personally but wont be easy for me

clear fox
#

Golden cat rises again ?

clear pulsar
#

List your own key

#

Doctors hate him

safe heart
#

It'd be the plot twist if the century if I got it on feral

livid wasp
#

I know thats why I brought it up

edgy shale
#

i do think they should add more breakpoints in m+ for more rewards, or at least add more to the ones that already exist

#

like u get something for 2k, cool

livid wasp
#

lfm

edgy shale
#

u get barely shit for 2.5k, some shoulder effect? but its bad

#

and 3k is nothing??

#

like...why

#

just add some recolor of the ksm mount or something, give me literally any reason to hit 3k or care

#

then there's obv getting title, but there sure is a lot of space between 2k and title

clear fox
#

Same over on PvP side, gap between glad and title massive

#

Even more so in shuffle 2.4K and title like 600+ rating

#

Give everyone more breakpoints

livid wasp
#

imagine putting effort for 0.000001% of playerbase

edgy shale
#

ye too much space between glad and r1

haughty compass
edgy shale
#

when there's an absurd difference in skill through some levels

grand mesa
#

I don’t think there’s an m+ equivalent to glad

clear fox
grand mesa
#

it’s like rival -> r1 title with nothing inbetween

clear fox
grand mesa
#

you legit timed 20s the first day u wanted to try and NYM just queueing with you

#

That’s way over KSM

#

Which is the mount reward

clear fox
#

Hero the sparkly tier enchant achieve right

#

Did that under a week from zero keys

grand mesa
#

yeah

clear fox
#

Though yes heavily based on the nym jump start

grand mesa
#

KSH pales in comparison to elite/CE

clear fox
#

Having a 3k achieve seems like a needed add

grand mesa
#

Maybe it’s cause the keys are giga inflated this season but

clear fox
#

Even if it gives just about nothing

#

Wait this happened right

grand mesa
#

unchained

clear fox
#

I just didn’t play sls2

grand mesa
#

Everyone talks about unchained being the fucked MMR season

#

But almost every season since everyone complains about deflation

#

And fucked MMR

#

Notice m+ participation rn

#

Keys are easy and participation is pretty high for mid/late expac

#

Think I read it’s higher than s1

edgy shale
#

its around thr same as s1

grand mesa
#

And I think arena depends on overall participation way more lol. Since playerbase so small it doesn’t take much for entire ladder to be dead lol. Just give away the farm some idk

edgy shale
#

week 2 s1 was so funny

#

just the worst fucking week ever

#

affix wise

clear fox
#

I see all these fond memories or unchained. Feel like should be the standard for seasons

#

Feels like everyone had fun ?

#

But again I didn’t play

grand mesa
#

It’s funny

clear fox
#

And puzz said it also partly sucked till it didn’t ?

#

Since was endless

grand mesa
#

I don’t think it was even like everyone was having a blast

#

It was a LONG raid tier

#

and they did mid season MMR adjustments with inflation

#

And by the second half everyone realized it was free

clear fox
#

Was that the holy priest era ?

grand mesa
#

hpal maybe? I don’t remember

#

s3 was super rise of RMP

#

Holy got a lot out of the tier also

#

no wait it was eddy

#

Rdru

livid wasp
#

will see if I can get 2k

#

m+

safe heart
#

You can easily

livid wasp
#

will see

clear fox
#

I believe

livid wasp
#

new years resolution, go 2k m+

velvet quest
#

New Years resolution done in 2 days

livid wasp
#

nah gonna take like 2 months probably

#

I dont really know any mechanics of the new dungeons

#

and nobody wants feral

velvet quest
#

Doesn’t rly matter tbh

#

Just run your own key

#

That’s all u have to do

livid wasp
#

I will try

#

I did +2 atal dazar and im rank 46k feral world

#

surprised how many there are

safe heart
#

Imagine if you did a +5

velvet quest
#

Pretty sure if a resto main does one +4 as feral they’d be one of those 46k “ferals” above you

#

So not rly an indication of how many feral mains are doing m+

livid wasp
#

probably

#

my realm has only 1 feral above 3k

safe heart
#

That's so lame lmao

livid wasp
#

I would just be happy if I was among the best ferals

#

of my realm

#

if I was playing super serious that is

livid wasp
#

but 2k is good enough

stray sigil
#

i qwill be

#

r1 fdk

#

world

haughty compass
empty thicket
#

Do groves give incarn cd reduction if that shit is up?

clear pulsar
#

Yes

empty thicket
#

I see, ty

grand mesa
#

Happy new years DGPVP

stray sigil
clear pulsar
#

Heck all of you you only bully me 2024 its fucking joever buddeh

stray sigil
safe heart
#

pog bringing in the new year with some puzzle keys

#

FISTICALWEAVING

clear pulsar
stray sigil
#

i will rest my balls on ur forehead

random patrol
#

just imagine you go to bed looking foward to 2024 and you wake up and it's Jan 1st 2020

dark torrent
#

quick one for the rdruids, when you guys are getting targeted completely opened on, how do you survive and recover? my rdruid is having trouble recovering from any major opener on any target. mostly running rdruid/uhdk/x

grand mesa
#

spending NS badly idk

dark torrent
#

just anyone in general, we've survived a few openers with him blowing everything on the one person, but if they switch to anyone we just fall over

late wraith
#

Happy new years DG 💖