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You spend the whole damn game on your mount
Or trying to get out of combat so you can get on your mount
yea thats usually how rbg works
at least in base bgs
either that or like 20 min pointless teamfights
for a base literally no one capped

Tbh if it was me, I’d just implement solo queue RBG. I think it would appeal to the masses and we need the masses. We need some of the SoD/classic crowd and new players to come to the game. PvP community too small
I dont think full bg time rbg would be good
Not in my exp but I’ve only@played RBGs up to about 2.1k
I like the faster paced aspect
I’m not sold on it. It’s barely been played much and already there’s a meta forming where people just bail on points if there’s going to be much of a fight to win it, with the quick mounts it’s literally just more efficient to run to another point
sure its very possible that there can be some improvements where mounts a bit slower capping a bit slower
I like a big team fight. And with 8v8 they don’t last forever. 8v8 RBG would be prefect
I can agree with that. I’m not saying they need to throw the baby out with the bath water. Just saying the current version hasn’t been a hit. It should have killed off random BGs but the reverse has happened
imo by far the main reason its not that succesful
is thats under the brawl umbrella
and you dont see your rating
Ok but then why does anyone do random BGs still? Literally faster to get gear in blitz. Ilvl balancing. No premades. In theory it should completely replace them
It’s never gonna be as popular as a ranked mode because no rewards. That’s a given
but I also think normal bgs
But why do random BGs still exceed it in popularity?
are not that popular
Only logical conclusion is the masses prefer the classic formula
disagree
assuming you are right Id think that bgs are played a lot by casual pvp players/people wanting achievements and they might be very turned off by the rating assigned to the brawl
Maybe. But why? The rating is hidden. If anything, it’s just a matchmaking system that stops them getting stomped by multi glads
Again, in theory it just just be an objectively superior casual experience. With matchmaking, ilvl balancing etc
Yeah but it doesn’t mean anything
Maybe
The stigma of this is not the default experience of the game
Basically
Thats what being called 'brawl' does
You do it for the quest once and you treat it as a gimmick
I’m genuinely curious about what would happen with BGs if they completely hid rating and did rewards for based on achievements like cod camo grinds etc. So have a hidden matchmaking in random BGs, some fun rewards that you earn over time. I have a feeling it would be CRAZY popular
I agree thats the biggest reason its that unpopular
its the labeling
depends on the rewards
but obviously if you can get cosmetics
ppl would go wild
So do you think if they temporarily swapped the positioning of it and randoms, making it the default BG and randoms the “brawl”, the queue times would swap?
the rating part is absolutely irrelevant for that
not sure what the queue time as a healer is for brawls?
why would queue times go down if more ppl play?
Yeah that’s what I was thinking. Cosmetics for like 100 killing blows in random BGs. A Mount for 200 wins. Rating doesn’t matter and is hidden just for matchmaking
Because it struggles to find enough people at similar ratings to put 16 people in a match
so even as healer you have long queue times?
isnt that actually lower then most bg queue times?
U dont agree but then agree with most if it 
Regular RBGs only have big teamfights where you let the bait people keep the enemy occupied while the real gamers do all the work
The random bgs are mostly occupied by casuals
Not big players
Idk about that
When is there not a good fight at LM? Or lava? Or WW?
Or market
You always get a good scrap in the classic rules BGs. Random or rated
And tbh that’s the group they should be trying to appeal to with solo BG. We need more casuals in PvP. Because maybe some of those casuals get hooked and start jumping into arena
And then they get berated by some dickhead Ret Paladin from Azralon and never queue again
Something like 5m deaths in SoD ashenvale already. How do we get them fuckers into retail to grow the game?
Well yeah that’s a thing for sure
Make new battlegrounds
Next xpac is the first new BG since Legion
You have the fight there while the spec ops team gets all the other nodes for you
Winning teamfight is nice, but most of the time the big teamfight results into nothing much
Big teamfights exist to keep the 6 droolers on your team occupied
I feel like you’re missing the point a bit.
The longer the droolers are occupied the more chance I have at winning the RBG for them
So longer teamfights are good for me
There’s clearly a strong appetite for more straightforward team fights. Fucking classic with a few extra spells has more people engaging in PvP than retail and it has one BG and a wpvp zone
Yes but those are harder to win cause you rely more on droolers
Example of a drooler in an RBG party so that 9 simps can talk to a "woman"
real
Appealing to rank 1 arena players isn’t going to make solo BG a hit that brings people into PvP
It could be the gateway drug for arena
Correct
That’s kinda the roll BGs has played in the past but they’ve given them so little attention that they’ve staled
me when i commit 35 different hatecrimes on the rbadg voice chat and an egirl talks
Idk RBGs have always been like this at higher ranks
Which is also why they can take 2-3 players when boosting to HotA
The problem with RBGs is just participation is too low
Just drop them to do negligible damage in a teamfight keeping the enemy team occupied
As low as 2.1k, you can queue into the same team of boosters 2-3 times a night
And I think participation is shit because of the reliance on LFG to make groups outside of discord communities (many of which died off over the years)
Yes
Lfg is horrible for rated bgs
Gotta make a dedicated group to do anything easily really
Yeah. It’s only fun for me when I’ve got a good discord group going
Can be really fun though
Aye RBGs with the homies is a lot of fun
More fun to heal RBG than arena if you’ve got a group
You can throw an arena match with one tiny error as a healer. If you make an error in an RBG someone might die but it’s recoverable if you make some good plays after
For me, that's why I like Arena healing.
Fair
Horses for courses
Stresses me out
I can’t heal more then 2 shuffle lobbies in a row without needing a break to play a dps or a diff game
,,.
,.,
whats up mommy granny
Oh my god it’s so funny
It’s more funny than scary for sure
And then legs run at you in the dark
But I’m a little piss baby so I’ll still get caught off guard and scream
pubg is weird I get the urge to play after a bit and after I play I just feel so god damn shit like im so bad at the game and people shoot so much better
not even wow arenas do this shit so bad
so much fun wasting time looting and then dying to stupid stuff and then repeating it over again
That game was so fun for like 3 weeks then I just fell off it entirely
it was really fun when it came out and it was new, I felt like I could get a lot of kills
Same with siege I liked that one when it came out then just quit for whatever reason
now like holy shit everyones like lvl 500 and doing godsprays
after I came back after 4 years
It’s a pretty different game now no? Tencent owns it
It was just an arma mod in the beginning
think you mean dayz?
Wasn’t pubg also a mod?
think it was always a standalone
arma had some BR mod though it was the first BR game
I think dayz was the arma mod
its not rly scary
its like jump scares on those monsters
its just rly stupid looking in general
so its funny as fuck playing with friends
the more you know
Dayz was also an arma mod
yea
Arma pretty good
They're made by the same pguy
and WC3
sigh I have spent my years playing a virtual cat in wow thats my excuse for sucking at pubg
Truuuuue
It's very unfortuante that you think you need an excuse
For not being good at something
I'm sorry homie
Embrace being bad at games who cares
They’re fun
do goofy little things and laugh about it
if I play solos then I can do some ok games but im playing with friends
and im so laughably bad
honest zechey the goat
fucking real dud
i wasted my whole life schizoposting on discord
could be wrose
youre pro healer

we did good you just quit
Everybody's mediocre at the vast majority of things they do



Why do I see this guy "hayne tv" everytime i open checkpvp
is he paying to be there or whatr
yes
well u cant tod at 50% actually
yeah show the rest of it you weren't 50%
thats very disrespectful to tell him he wasn't 50
i'm sorry maybe you were 50 years old when this happened
when tod came for you you might have been 50 it's problematic for me to assume you weren't.
correct
does death log not show overkill if it is actually overkill
it was mid match so i didn't look past that
i was fucked anyway, dh/monk training me
TOD can only be used on players below 15% hp
Which is why it didnt kill you from 50
unless...
does 4p balance just straight up not work when in incarn in pvp or am i takin crazy pills? 🤔
Details has death logs
You're right. Incarn eclipses dont get 4p buff
Go figure, I sent a bug report couple weeks back.
i swear it's a feature not a bug
gotta love this indie game 😄
there it is
only hit me for lik 100k
would have killed me through a defensive, but at that point i don't think i even had one left
but i don't want to be killed
true
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AHHAHAHHAHA
THAT Was my CAT
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nice
That’s actually awesome lol
i looooove that
wrong

FUCK YEAAA
Same

bored guess I'll work on merging more sse plugins again
@random patrol
them minions getting tougher
@late wraith

I'm the problem @late wraith
I need to work on my prompts
Chat gpt isn’t an image generator?
Unless it is now I dunno I stopped paying attention to this shit
Dall-e is under chat gpt umbrella if you pay for it
I paid for it


Glyph is a menace
You’re the one that tagged me in ai stuff at 12:30 am
I’m in bed watching sappy videos on instagram doing a little cry before sleep I don’t need this
Real
If you’re anguished over using chatgpt don’t pay for it
Then don’t be upset about it
You’re a mess
You're not my real mom
God I lost my best sappy video I forgot to favorite it
Ive been doing this for like a month now
Is it over

No it is not over. I love to watch little heartwarming sappy videos and do a small cry it’s fine and normal
🗣️🗣️🗣️every day the voices get a lil louder 
Women cry over random videos, men cry over meaningful things.
Am I doing a sexism correctly?
I guess?
React harder! 
Naw. Done watching my videos night all. Davey have a good rest of your day
THANKS
Hello
That's a nice looking church
Skill problem
ask the lock
He's horde and I cba... based on the tooltip that is dispel dmg
He did a magical trick
it was Stoneform >.<
How is it not a dispel
Oh
Yeah there you go
Theres UA dispel and lava burst dispel on the death log
Its for sure a dispel. Just not yours
it was stoneform my bud cast it for sure
IM QUEUEING PRES
I got my fourth dungeon done for Feral
@tiny oar
And it gave me Lord Waycrest's Signet with Avoidance on it
What ways do people still have this season to dispel ua and not get chunked? Just full immunes like bubble/cloak, fade dispel, diffuse?
Reverse backlashes now p sure
what changed with fade? is it cause they used to use md instead of regular dispel and now md cast time is too long?
No they deliberately made it not work
I hate aff buffs man
They always just give mild buffs over and over again then u blink and ur just being oppressed after the 6th buff 🤣
i already feel oppressed by lock anytime i cant just w key them the entire game
for some reason we saw like 3 different lock warr teams at low mmr in a 15 minute session and we got farmed so hard
shower thoughts
i found @clear pulsar
Get me 13,855k followers and and posting more about this video
156842
@viscid remnant @grand mesa
Because they never buff the right things. The devs do not understand Aff
evening davey
Does anyone miss ArenaJunkies, it's pretty hard to find reliable current information now from strong players
I wasnt around for arena junkies time
But if current strong players are any indication
BOMBACLAAAAT DAVID
They just know how to play the game well, their word cant be trusted on shit like how spells actually work
Just on the basis of being high rated

Kinda have to find one or a few people you know are reasonable and knowledgeable to follow.
Like trill for whatever he mains at the time is prob reliable
Current content creators are strong players but they put out click bait content first rather than just talking about the game
Since their rent depends on it
What, Christmas dragon?
tehrre is a christmas dragon look
The armor?
and i want it so bad but you have to do this daily greench quest in arathi
it's armor for this one

it's a rare drop from the present you get as a quest reward for killing the greench. ironforge for alliance, orgrimmar for horde. i got the pepe sleigh toy but not this and it's a pain in the ass to do this on all your alts every day
i dont want it but im gonna farm for it every day now so i can ping u when i get it
this doesn't hurt me
and it's so annoying to do this quest that go right ahead i'm happy you're unhappy.
wow thats kinda toxic

yep the real beavs finally reveals herself
cause he tried to curse me
i'm sorry i was toxic i didn't mean it
i'm just mad i don't already have this
real
true colors finally out
i got this little guy that's kinda nice
he has a little sleigh i can't be too mad about this
i will always support fellow pvpers against the tyranny of women
What did girl gamers ever do to you
Did they want to do 2s with a higher rated player instead of you
That's just an allegory of life
Unfortunate
Have you considered being taller and more handsome
Or have rich parents

y a w n
Any short kings
5'3
If you're not 6'1 you're 5'7
Sup
I'm conducting a survey if there's an inverse correlation to bicep size and height to arena rating
I have good biceps
i dont believe you
microp pod in the house

I'm 400cr irl
403 is pretty bad for a credit score, wierd flex
And very good at rsalmon
enji has dad strength now
from having to carry around a litlte sack of potatos all the time
that is mental strenght
anytime i pick up my neice i'm like good lord
how do you just haul this around all day
and they wiggle
do u have those
granny why u sound like that when u get mowed down by an auto turret?
uknow what im saying ?
WHAT THE
how did you know

and he was streamign
u were
god i got owned by the turret
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH - cuts off

that game is so fucking funny
right before that me and puzzle were mouthing off about how we were the a team
i swear
and then i immediately get got
one of my friends had the funniest death i'll link it one second


thats very toxic of u
death is not a laughing matter
Some one screenshot out of context for later
wat even killed him
electricity lol

the lightning
Big
yeah every couple days you get a rainy day
and you can't run outside with metal stuff
dgpvp lethal company game?

Strong correlation
Idk who Alec is
Pikaboo didnt win blizzcon
Has pikaboo won anything
no
Daisyduke, alec, legion blizzcon
wrong
I just think NA is like the weakest region for competitive games
blizzcon 2015 for one
This is honestly the least interesting topic in pvp history
i can't believe how boring it is
also imagine saying anything about pikaboo's skill
lord.
Outlier

Who has pikaboo beat though
Me
Are you a pikaboo stan
jealous and also maybe i will too
Weird
5 year tier 3 sub
No thats me
who isn't a pikaboo fan he's a sweetie and he's a real good player
3 year tier 5 sub
READING HAS NEVER BEEN IMPORTANT
cuz im eaitng good
feb 31st is not a thing
pods a doritos taco kind of guy
no i'm a doritos tacos kinda guy those are good
they are frfr
Born on feb 27th my guy. That month usually doesn't go past 28
oh my god
what theeeee since when
crazy if true
Is smurfing 2s every single day a victim less crime
i kinda just like 3 soft shell tacos, just 3 it's like a little snack.
anyone can photoshop a picture
I got print screen technology
yeah
Ctrl + C and CTRL + V
I was just talking about the month february and facts. You brought tacos into this.
Sweetie, really good AND relatable
She is a sweetie, really good at bad clones, and she smashes white claws like u wouldnt believe
real
Ty beavs I'm tired of being gaslought
damn
i am against gaslamping sorry
I'm just taco bell drunk posting
real

That gif just induced seizures for 3-5 people.
chromatic is back
Nope. I'm being quiet and civil.
face is just running his mouth based on nothing, glyph is trying to get a rise out of me, everything else seems fine.
white claw?
seriously face?
jesus
I will not comment further
Survival of the fitness was invented for a reason
If I speak big trouble
how?
when have i ever even mentioned white claw
i think i tried one white claw once
and it tasted like shit
white claw is pretty weak tbh
i...
I'd love to be able to block out the world with a 5% alcoholic beverage but that doesn't do it for me.
sounds like another day in pvp
mike's hard lemonade
i haven't had one of those in like over a decade but anytime someone mentions them i feel the strongest sense memory.
Well, tell beavs to put an I in his name and represent the great cornholio like an adult.
Huh
beavis
I'm a child of the 90s.
Oooo
it's a long lost era
he should know hes just a bit slow
I was like

what is an ibeavs
that’s what I was wondering
damn. I lament future generations.
google cornholio
Lament is a word to mean regret.
For those who decided "Ibeavs" made more sense than "Beavis"
you regret the future generations?
You guys are kinda f'd
How do u figure
I figure that the letter u should be replaced with the word "you".
im still trying to figure out wat it means to regret a generation
could u just be nice and explain it
How can old people regret if the dementia doesn’t let them remember anything
regurts is not a word. You are dumb for saying it.
It's a harassing world
Someone added me to a beavis and butthead chat on twitter a couple years ago based on my name
You can eat my whole ass
@late wraith
I'm ok with that. You spelled the words correctly.
You always accuse me of dementia then don’t accept when I forget
How's that vote for the donald going?
what is the donald
I love the marque showing "comcast country".



lmao
Not even mad. Proud you studied english.



I'm just waiting to hear how elon musk is a genius inventor.
is this what schizo looks like
yeah if u go to the gym the worst outcome is sad and clinically depressed and fit/strong and thats better than sad and clinically depressed
Sure. going to the gym could help. But trying to convince a clincally depressed person to do that is ignorant.
The fact you so casually make light of the topic
you've never been there
its kinda ignorant and toxic to call me ignorant \
Well, go tell your best friend that your sadness is not normal.
are you gatekeeping mental health cause nobody else can have it as bad as u?

I'm not gatekeeping shit. I'm just pointing out that people with actual life long depression deal with it harder than your simplistic candy cane advice.
are u gaslamping me into thinking its not gatekeeping now
My anus violently rejects taco bell.
Than the
Man I’ve been delinquent in reading dreamgrove
T bell slaps
haha I suck. thanks for making fun of me. I hope it makes you feel better.
I love a Doritos locos taco
No one is making fun of you
We’re trying to defuse what is a very confusing situation
Here’s the thing: you’re gonna be sick almost immediately after eating it
Is it worth it? Probably no! Do I keep going back? Yes absolutely
eat tbell right before raid and get thru the whole raid night challenge
It's not confusing. I'm sad. I'm alone. I have no friends. I'm 38 with no job. You can continue to lol at my situation.
Difficulty fucking impossible
When we do blizzcon meetup do I avoid taco bell then
I mean llama. We could tell. No one comes in here completely antagonistic and guns blazing being a dbag without problems at home
🤷♂️
that’s a you problem. Fix ur shit
Sure let me just press ctrl+alt+del/
Literally no one is laughing at this and I’m gonna be full honest it’s weird to bring it up in an accusatory way to make people feel bad. I’m sorry things are hard for you. Coming in like this at people isn’t it
No no no we are getting Taco Bell
Is the tbell better in your country face

u know cause uh
We actually tried the factor thing
This week
My wife mentioned it then I said cdew is sponsored so now we have to try it
It’s actually not bad
It’s legit for sure
Yeah might keep ordering it I like it
someone told me about a new mcdoanlds thing
that's like ... mcdonalds coffee shop or something
It’s nice for a while then we got tired of it
But def solid
problem is we’re delivery fiends we order like 1-2 times a day
hahahha same puzzle
so we’re already tired of all the restaurants
mommy gotta change the diapers its true
i order so much doordash
from this one place that they started giving me little notes and sending me extras
what does that even mean
I think we were singlehandedly supporting a local Chinese place


like what does this MEAN
i know you're just trying to bait me into something
and i shouldn't just give in like this but what does that even mean

real
and based
can u translate it a gain
but in a boomer way
so beavs understands ?
@velvet quest
sure
This reall ydoesnt surprise me at all
like this makes SO much sense
my words not glyph's i just understand what hes saying, unlike beavs

Same bro
ngl that might actually be the funniest thing mayo has done.
Just cba cooking
I cook some steak every once in a while but thats about it

I moved to a small town, nothing worth door dashing here. Saves ne a lot of money
It’s a complisult
its a compliment, the more languages i know the smarter i am
Can’t beat that logic
(he knows 1 language)
i know about dozens of languages i just dont understand them 😎
pod is def very smart

Man ferals need some love
I feel like In 2s they do best with fistweaver s not disc priest…
Regrowth buff tomorrow ?
I will be able to separate from fury warriors and heal up with my regrowth spell

Tragic.
I knew it!
Congrats on being S tier tomorrow
20% buff def gonna put you over the TOP !
imo feral has been S tier for awhile
at gathering and mount farms and world questing
i swear pvpers just dont know wowhead exists
Reading comprehension is a third grade skill (I can't read)
Oh yay regrowth for ferals is no longer reduced by 20% hopefully this means as a hybrid we can heal more than non hybrid classes now
Rogues need to be removed
Agreed mage rogue is insane… like literally a cheat code with the amount of cc dmg and tankiness
They gotta make ferals the class that counters rogues imo
Will the regrowth buffs tomorrow bring us back to shadowlands form as ferals
Didn’t they buff regrowth like 40% a few weeks ago? If that wasn’t night and day difference to you then this won’t be either
rg heals for nothing in pve and now its the same
so it still heals for nothing
its like 8% of ur max hp non crit
Man that was stupid buff…. Why did they ever reduce our healing in the first place
cuz feral had dumb healing in sl
well maybe RG wasn't insane or anything, but good tankiness
then druids got annihilated in DF with the class trees and feral losing the base passive it had for RG

Feral healing was out of control I’m glad
keep the mittens on the kittens
No
23%
It legitimately healed for 50k before
And because every good comp in this game comes with an oppressive MS effect it's more like 30k.
this is +23%?
i mean you literally corrected me and said i was wrong and then i pull up the original buff and now im supposed to know what u mean
how about i dont know what u mean
If you want to get technical it was reduced by 50%, not 43%
Or rather, not buffed 50%
Sometimes mayo I don’t know why I collect mounts
I main Druid and spend 99% of my time in flight form
Don’t even start arena games on a mount to pre hot
It’s like why am I even
But god damn Druid is bis for anchient content
I guess could pull the mistweaver out of exile
That guy has been standing infront of Oondasta since week 3 of season 2
@clear fox you collect mounts so you can get 3 invincibles in your bag to show the guy that has been trying to get it for 10 years that he will never get it
Will the regrowth buff today to do anything? Like make a huge difference or mittens on the kittens stills… idk how axtin managed to get 2.2k+ plus in solo as feral
yeah the regrowth buff does something
Yay lol so it’s a plus then step in the right direction for ferals
Opponent healer has a MMR of 3 below me. So more or less identical. I smash them 5-1. I gain 21 MMR. How is this fair? Dps can gain 21 for a 3-3 fucking draw
this healer gets 50 rating for their 3-3 and i get 7 and we're the same mmr??

Your rating higher than mmr his rating lower than mmr
Noober
im in hell get me out
Me playing skyrim
I suppose this is the answer
It’s the MMR movements that truly matter
But I still maintain healer MMR is cooked. You gain a lot less for wins than you lose for loses
What you playing
pres
Gg
no its more
tbh, i would grind shuffle as a healer if only we could win point doing 3/3 instead of winning 0
it's so annoying to battle 15/20 minutes just for nothing lol
Wdym win point
Gamer
If you wanna win you have to win...
Yeah but you didn’t really win fully.
Although it can feel like you’ve had to play flawlessly to earn that 3-3 and you feel you should get some reward, maybe the other healer feels the exact same way
That’s ultimately the problem with shuffle. 2 of the 6 people only play against each other
As a dps, if you play very well but one of the dps is an ape, you are extremely likely to get at least a 4-2 win if they go 0-6. Healer can play their heart out in that situation and walk away with a 3-3 and an MMR drop
Just how it is
If you feel like you had to play at your best that just means you're on the right bracket lol
You'll hit a plateau at every competition, you arent entitled to just keep going up forever by banging your head against it like in pve
You dont think healer 6 0s happen?
DPS see the same shit you do. For every 4-2 cuz of a 0-6 there is a 2-4 cuz of a 6-0 guy
It just fluctuates 12 points up and down after 35 min queues if you hit your ceiling and cant pull out a win vs the opponents you're matched with
Instead of 3-3s with 1 min queues
What winds me up more is how low the gains are as a healer. I got 19 for a 5-1 win against a healer same MMR as me. When I’m on dps I would typically expect to gain 50-60 MMR for a 5-1
The system is the exact same
Not necessarily. Can just mean that one of the dps was very much at the wrong level and you’re playing like a machine to try save them
Nobody knows that for certain
But what we do know, for certainty, is that on average it takes healers approximately 2.5x more games to reach a given rating than dps
I wasn’t even talking about that. I was responding to someone else lol
Show me that screenshot. It’s not real
Buff feral
On the other hand the more wins thing is mostly true
Took me 300 games with a 57% win rate to hit 1900 on holy
But for a lot of those was full trash
25%
Huge !

The advatage of heal is that yes you need more games but you do more games too 😄
Do we know this? Or do we know that at any given rating healers have 2.5x more games?
Asking the real questions
Would agree that’s it’s likely more but seems like multiple effects at play
Silly question, but do ferals use 2 or 4 set for pvp? I know its nice to have TF and FF on the same cooldown lenght, but what do you think?
It is! I’ll show you my recent when I get online. Other healer had precisely 3 MMR less than me. Went 5-1 (lost the last round only) and gained 19 MMR
Yes because it’s across all ratings. So at all stages of their climb they have 2.5x games








