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did they nerf aug, nobody talks about them in pvp anymore
got u, buddy is a bm hunter and Im just trying to accomodate
get him to play like a chimaera with a slow and you play ms
off pet worm or carrion
lock feels good too you can just pump and let them cc
from what i father jungle is like average
cuz hunter does nothing for u
and feral is paper
but the majority of r1s are saying bm jungle is better than fmp
if u play fmp or fl/x
atleast while ur paper if they go u
they get pumpd by the other dps
much harder than a hutner
It’s still good, but not overpowered anymore so people flocked to dh / dk
wouldnt mm jungle have the same effect
yeah but what happens when u get turbo trained
with a hunter on ur team
games are on a like 2min timer
mm better with sub
like jungle is not bad
but def looks like its worse than feral caster
atm
maybe this tuesday (?)
when they do some tuning

maybe they touch feral being paper
idk how they would address it
@edgy shale if u buffed or tweakd wall for feral
would it break pve
yeah you can get one tapped more in higher keys that you can in arena XD
i kinda want wall on like 2min cd 10s duration
or someshit
its incredibly awful how bad instincts is
real
i think boomy should have survival instincts 😇
i like that button for guardian i think i should have it on boomy
u get sr if ur rg and regen nerfed to same lvls as feral
2 stacks just like on bear
lol get real
we did it reddit

get real you clown baby
no i want to be like guardian 😇
i think it's pretty straight forward i want the game to be easier for me and harder for everyone else what is hard here
what is hard to understand about my wants
my needs trump ur wants
play bm then
or arms
really any plate melee
or dh
all plate are either ranged or have infinite gap closers it feels like
but feral can shift roots and slow

kek
Sorry was out doing mountain things, but this is 100% worth running in PvP until you get the conquest crafted piece. So good that it puts crafting a neck basically to the bottom of your priority list. That neck is giga cracked tbh
k tyvm 😄
Like face said that thing might be worth running at 482/483 over the conquest neck
Depends on total stats
But getting that much mastery is huge
i am real
i wasn't talking to you
Oh 


Edging is based

You heard me
@beavs is puzzlebox big or small ele
he wrist curls 100 lb dumbbells to train for ele
I think beavs blocked me on discord not sure why lol
@late wraith test
Nevermind working
I really enjoy feral ele
Lots of fun
Dallas got r1 with ele last season I just need to find my ele to do the same
🥲
i would never block you on discord tan
puzzle is a certified bunny hopping 500apm ele blaster
my favorite shit is when he's on ele and i'm on boomy and we're being menaces
and how many versa could i drop? i mean, just got this from m+ and can get upgraded to 476 lol but if i do that i have 26% (4855vers rat)
Can you feed me your loot please
haha today is my lucky day
I expect to end this season somewhere around 18-22% versa (in PvP)
Bold of you to gear around the assumption that dh gets nerfed enough
🤣
I can drop some Versa and compensate with tranquility
🤣
so i'm safe if i drop versa to use that ring i guess
It’s true
Only think to note is you might want to install true stat values. I was targeting about 25% PvP mastery, or wherever the 30% dr cutoff starts
And with both those items you might be getting awful close/over and can start moving gems/enchants towards haste
Ideally I think rdru runs ~25% mastery / >30% haste / 20%+ Versa
But not sure quite how many stats we get, and might run more haste less Versa depending on how much I feel I need to live
should i use my free boost to make a 2nd dh? i used my embellishes for pve on my current dh and i think i need to min max harder if i want to hit 1400
i used my boost on second druid so yes
Next week might be evening gamer
i yoinked a good name from a small server too i think im gonna make it a dh
Needs to get a jump counter
Forget apm
server of kings and champions?
wait unironically the character is on a server connected to chogall
Oh?
gilneas?
the one that begins with l that i forget?
laughing skull or auchindoun those are the other 2
auchin
i can join beavs guild once my current guild kicks me cause they dont like a meme, this is hype
Yeah I said it’s on auchindoun
So cringe
someone lost to an rdru and is mad about it
bald like rdrus
did u see patch notes beavs

we rejoice
Come the fuck on
oh i didn't!
(prob still)

This just makes the 4p a no go now
I think this is a bit pathetic, healing feels horrible
They should just buff the weak specs
Rshams arent gonna be any happier
get fucked ai player
Hpala is unbuffed
None of these healers are gonna feel any better aboutt healing anyone
did they ever talk about the balance 4pc not working in incarn that you all discovered?
good healers a little piglets
is that just working as intended?
It works in pve so I sent a bug report and asked ppl to pass it forward too so we'll see
With log of a duel and all
Very proper due diligence
This doesn’t bother me at all
Yeah I dont think the nerf means much of anything to me but they really should just buff the weak healers
puzzle is ele main
healing people thru 250k nourishes thru pillars just by healing myself is fried

Idk if they nerfed the big damage outliers and didn’t nerf rdru
We’d be in drink meta
puzzle is ele main don't @ me
@
The nerfs to havoc and assa are meaningless
I’m ok with them nerfing big dps outliers, then take top off rdru some then see how the rest looks. If other healers still look like shit buff them too
i was curious about that dk nerf
hierarchy idc if it changes
what is rotten touch
As long as the band between best and worst is tighter
tis why u have 200k clawing shadows
on ur death logs
They nerfed my tier a bit too as ele
Did I read it wrong
no he is not ok
infact
the rdru nerfs
made him go bonkers
and he lost his mind
Stormweaver now causes Chain Heal and Healing Surge to gain 150% of the benefits of Maelstrom Weapon based on the stacks consumed (was 100%).
I’m so tired
Enhance stays the only relevant melee offhealing hybrid
still doghit
dont be baited
lmfao
Just got home
enh doesnt even have room to play that even if they wanted to
and they def dont want to
using 2 globals to heal instead of 1
omega kek
idk man these nerfs seem ok
to be on the iamgettingfuckedintheass 2000
bro it’s ok I know you’ll keep the couch warm for me
they dont even play blindside do they lol
since you’ve been living there for a year
real
apparently
feral being paper
is all according to plan

It’s your identitity
You’re no longer the hybrid that heals
You’re the only spec in the game that doesn’t

Better than rdru meta
I think rdru wil be fine tbh
And idk how u can say they don’t do a decent nerf to dh and assa when u also look at pve nerfs
Which also apply to pvp
Taking some of the top off kingsbane good idk
@stray sigil why do u ping me everytime something I play gets nerfed u hateful little shit LOL
he's so hateful right?
Rdruid is king don’t you forget it
Tbh I tease him about feral
Nonstop
So I probably deserve it
But I really don’t care much anyway. Old puzzle malding about blue posts because he wanted to push rating is gone 🤣
this is the chill puzzle era


It’s an improvement tho beavs
i do want to get a crumb sweaty later in the season
He acknowledges me as an ele player
so i can push a bit higher and reach my little goals
Usually when I mention I want to play a dps he lols
Thanks @late wraith I knew I could count on you
❤️
saying I can’t play dps I’m a filthy rdru main forever
Pizzabox disagrees
I guess enh is just lash build
And playing storm weaver lol
Could be worse @clear pulsar
Could be a MW
saul already kinda perma lash now
Honestly wild
This is what happened to us in s2 before treants
Not sure this is angle blizz should take tbh
Kinda mid healer, 3rd or 4th, nerfed the hardest for no good reason
pig
its like they dont know feral has shit survi
they know zechey they just like seeing u get mad
get fucked pig
maybe they forgot to add its not applied in pvp
disc damage and healing aura nerfed 3% also
is ww dmg that oppressive in pvp? either way 1 line of ww changes is enough to satisfy their quota for the month
isnt it already s tier
na
S TiEr according to what
if youre confused about a spec getting buffed or nerfed u should look at wcl data. if ur still confused after seeing that you probably have the misunderstanding that the game is balanced primarily around pvp rather than pve
I don’t think anyone confused that pve balanced over pvp
I think pvpers get confused why a lot of pve specific tunings make it through to pvp when they probably shouldn’t
it should be does not apply to pvp unless stated otherwise not the other way around lol
15% mastery nerf will def be felt but I’m pretty sure rdru will still be bis heals lol
You see them Dps nerfs? You know what this means? 10% Versa, we gonna be zooming with mattiu haste
15% mastery nerf seems huge to me
I’ll just stack 15% MORE
But ye gonna hurt a bit but probs still going to be fine enough
i think rdruid will still be best but its just not gonna be able to keep up anymore with the damage
i think almost every healer is just unplayable after these nerfs lmao
Right
That's exactly my thoughts too
Shit's unhealable as is
Nobody's having fun healing this meta
yeah i think every healer is just gonna feel garbage now, even if druid is still technically the best one. These changes are so out of touch it is unbelievable
buffing unholy dk is just...
Idk I feel like unholy got nerfed more than assa by a good bit
That’s a lil spookier than I thought
Glhf to all healers
It depends on mastery % and how many stacks, but the very low end of like 18% mastery and only 5 stacks, it's already 7.1% less healing
If you have 25% mastery and 7 stacks it's 9.5% healing nerf
You can get up to 10 stacks max but thats all cds
I’m a lil tired right now but when you said 7 stacks initially I was like
Eh that’s like never
blooms are 3
But really it’s like always
Yeah nah 7 stacks is basically regular healing thru burst
Lb x3, rejuv germ reg is already 6
Then there's swarm, wild growth (at least from OG), cenarion ward, cult, tranq, maybe spring blossoms even
Realistically you dont have literally all of those at once ever but 10 is probably something you hit
Aight so
What if we haste game
And go for photosynthesis
Possibly more cooked
But how does haste interact with invigorate
Just oom really fast
There's nothing special to it
Invigorate just does the full lifebloom length in 4s
Oh ye
Haste affects it the same way it affects a full lb
Really unfortunate

that's what we did in bfa when they nerfed mastery by 9%
but rdruid was meh outside of 2s
I know I'm late to the party on this discussion and we're waiting on Tuesday to see how everything pans out, but I've been gearing up my rdruid to play 2s with my wife (BM hunter) and was wondering I should just swap back to priest or if you guys think rdruid is still gonna be good in that situation?
rdru never gonna be bad in 2s
thats what I figured, just needed someone to say it so I felt better about it LOL
How can you feature yourself in your own video though?
@polar nymph who rudar?
Video format is easier to digest for a lot of people
I like "book on tape"
Hi guys, are there any pvp-tank guides (RBG) for guardian?
Seeing those healer nerfs and I have to ask: is 1h solo shuffle queues now a target for blizzard? Like is someone KPI’d on how many healers they can get to reroll dps?
I wonder how low I can run my vers and get away with it this season as a boomy prob still good to get at least 28 vers and craft some mastery haste pieces later on
You could argue it also makes it easier to play other healers when whatever is first place gets nerfed.
That's just me playing devil's advocate though
I'd prefer they bring up the other healers to RDruid's level
Only if the other healers are really viable
and tbh. they aren't
Because they aren't Resto Druid
nothing besides Rdruid and disc were really viable in this meta
It's too fast
if you look at rsham. Simply doesn't have the throughput
They needed to bring all healers up not chop down the top ones
Shaman is the only healer that isn't viable because of itself, the rest weren't 'viable' because they weren't at RDruid's strength
It already is
Mw feels fine to me
Rsham absolutely doesnt
HPriest also felt fine to me
And I don't even have 4 set yet
They also gave it a bunch of buffs for next week
I feel good into everything on mw
Rsham feels like wading thru mud the entire game
They should have nerfed rdruid set bonus, left mastery alone and buffed rsham (hps), evoker (hps), hpal (mana) holy (mana)
Mana isn't an issue for HPriest
Give all healers a chance to have fun. Not make everyone equally miserable
I've played it for 8 years, mana hasn't been an issue once for the spec.
People who say it's bad this season either go in with really bad positioning and get caught out because they still think you play it like you did in Shadowlands or they overcommit Serenity and Sanctify instead of relying on PW:Life which got omegachad buffed this patch.
I can answer that
Only pres is worse and pres is unplayable
Whenever Disc is good Holy's representation disappears
Win rate
Just the nature of any class with more than 1 spec for a role.
not representation
Yes, rep going down affects win rate because the good players change spec.
And only the ones that one trick the low rep spec remain.
OK so if I filter by only high rated players it gains one spot and leapfrogs rsham
It's still at the bottom
Or rather, bottom end
There are as many matches here in the data pool for holy as there are hpal, rsham etc
More than many of the underperforming dps
Didn't people drop those two as well?
It's enough to be statisically significant
Fair enough
But for myself I'm fully confident in saying that Holy isn't bad right now from having played it this season without 4 set yet and because it was way worse earlier in the xpac due to being undertuned.
Anyway, point remains. Buff all healers. Don't fuck them over so queues skyrocket
They nerfed resto again
so epic
Guys my people in Solo Shuffle die on me... What am I doing wrong? I think I've followed the main rotation to a T. Doing everything my sensei Lontar says
Damage is HIGH atm
so you can do everything right and people die
hard to advise without seeing gameplay or logs/details
Boomy 4pc still bugged?
real
Zechey playing sod: whats the purpose of life
Zechey playing anything: whats the purpose of life
REAL
youre just plain wrong about that one
Zechey playing anything: whats the purpose of life
Can't stop, won't stop.

David you're cringe
No amount of nerfs would warrent playing sod
I agree
Classic had some novelty
But that shit is ooooold now
A few extra abilities and upscaling a dungeon into a raid isn’t content
I wonder whether they’re testing wow player’s appetite for a soft reset though for after the next trilogy of expacs
no amount of spin or interesting twists is gonna make me level in classic again lol
++++++++++++++++++++++
incredibly based
I made the Gilmore ghouls with my friends then logged off cause people were lining up for quest tags
It’s sorta new with like 6 servers no one would have missed that if they fixed it
How come no boomies running 4pc? Looks like an alright bonus to me. Enough having some sub-optimal secondaries for
Like, the mastery gloves are still alright for dps. Mastery isn't trash
It’s also not currently working in incarn?
And until that gets sorted it’s not worth it
4p for boomy is good
https://www.wikihow.com/Attract-a-Goth-Girl @velvet quest
ty ill try out some of these tips
This is overthinking it show her your cool moth collection and a bird skull you have and that’s it, it’s over, she’s yours.
REMEMBER BOYS PRETTY GIRLS ARE EVERYWHERE ACOUSTIC MUSTARDS ARE THE PRIZE
Thats crazy
God knows there's nothing in this life I want more than a big td (twilight dev) goth gf it was even my guild name for a while
But I would want the most distance of all time from someone that showed up with a bird skull
Then you just want the aesthetic bb sorry
Ah it’s bugged? It not working in incarn would be a big loss tbf
guys trevvy sent the link to me, ur not supposed to use those tricks or else ur my competition
Absolutely yes
I'm down with a little psycho
Not full psycho
Little psycho usually turns into full psycho 
Nah face can fix her it’ll be fine
Nobody turns full psycho with me

We're all psycho after dealing with you
You arent a big td goth gf
Your point?
You dont get the full experience

I need an adult
Wallahi
I'm finished
True
thinking owning a bird skull is psycho lol
wish I had the balls to queue shuffle
why are they using voice, cringe
not the real shuffle experience
I think they use voice in these r1 range shuffles in EU at least
I've seen people playing shuffle and being in voice, then swapping channels every round
wouldnt be surprised
Tho it coulda been war game shuffles and I didnt realize ig
Since I'm not a Boomkin player I want to ask why Rudar considers Starfall a noob trap, asking because one of my friends was wondering why.
(meme not intended)
@late wraith starfall
oh he explained it in his guide it just doesn't do enough damage, it's all very healable out of necessity because if it wasn't boomy would be way too strong in rbgs or something but late last season i used it and i will still sometimes use it against pet classes. i dunno with all of that i take his advice and others because they have more experience but at the end of the day you gotta try stuff for yourself.
they can also line the damage
it doesn't hit behind pillars so they second they line you you're doing nothing with it.
wrong
tell me what part is wrong
all of it
starfall
i just wanted to see if saying wrong would give u a hotflash snd it did grandma

what in the fucking HELL pod
ahahahahahaa
pod myking
im ded
real
Kalvish owned that round
Thanks
The zoomer gameplay. Crazy
Idk sub in regular shuffles are owning too
You know who isn't?
It was just really good stuff by them
Face when he presses Starfire as Resto
Idk I had big time negative win rate as sub so obv it’s bad spec
We can tell 😛
Ur gonna lose ur share of werthers, more for us ig 😎
Crusader doing pretty good

For you
None for pod and fuji?
None for pod or Fuji they are rats

tony playing boomie
mommy?
signs of apocalypse
tonyboomy new era
he did so many comics he finally went insane and just rerolled

hey david, have you been planning to sub lately?
I played first cs match in years
wish it gave dopamine like wow arena
i'm glad the whiny night elf mains complained on twitter the blue and white is way better
what is that
so you gotta do the next part
i think you finish raid then you get a quest to talk to tyrande
and you throw a party for the tree
and then you get this
the red one is kinda ugly i dunno why they went with that as the base but watev
the shapes are all cute i just don't love the colors
Ideal would be the silver from left with the red from right
i won't complain about crop top options
i just think the blue looks sharper
i had to keep my little guy in the shot
perfect little boy
what raid
it was sjust a questl ine
the new one
they added this recolor but you have to clear the raid let me find specifics for you one second
you gotta kill fyrakk
gg
ah that explains the druid raid leader i had the other day
they were way too wholesome to be pugging raid just for gear
Hi, I got a weird question. I was checking gear from different people but I'm fairly unsure about what to spend conquest on first.
Should it be the staff or potential tier set pieces for Balance?
Staff
got it, thank you
wait what?
no don't do that
you want to buy some pieces you can convert to tier first
there are a good main hand and offhand from the trophy vendor
no face is 100% wrong here 2 pc is way too good to skip on for balance

4pc yeah skip it for now but 2pc is necessary
and yeah hellbloom weapon and offhand are perfectly fine
christ this poor person
no one in dg should be having orange names we're all disasters that should be quarantined from the rest of the server
I'm not a disaster I'm gorgeous and perfect
true
I'm not a disaster I'm gorgeous and perfect
wrong
??
true u are, mayo
ty
There's no way 2p is worth more than the weapon upgrade
For practically the same cost
It doesnt do anything you just warrior of elune
you can get hellbloom weapon and offhand
Why are you so ragey at me lol
because you're saying nonsense words
and told someone to take staff over 2 pc like did we learn nothing from fuji spending all his conquest on a weapon

wtf im getting hit for what

you're a cautionary tale
U never go full Fuji
legendary
You end up 473 and screechy
fuji ur famous theyre writing tales about u

is necro feral getting invented again
no not for another 2 weeks


not without my permission
That’s surprising
druids can obv.use shields otherwise how would they tank
This is so wild to me
This idea that using conquest on weapon isnt simply the most efficient use of it
By far
Actually by far
there is a perfectly good weapon from the trophy vendor that literally everyone is using unless they got weapon from vault.
if ur spending 1800 conquest for +3 ilvl mainhand its terrible but if u dont wanna bother farming for trophies then its pretty good
3 ilvl mainhand is much more int than 3 ilvl pants and shoulder tho
Which you can also buy with trophies?!
Like what even is this argument
Hellbloom gear exists for every slot not just weapons
3 ilvl pants and shoulder + power of 2 set
well, good thing is I didnt buy the weapon since im still missing conquest. Bad thing is I'm not really doing the trophy of strife weekly quest (i literally just finished leveling my boomie since i recently came back to the game)
You can catalyze hellbloom pants too
got it, thanks 😄
why would you waste charges on pieces you will replace
but why would you. why would you not use your catalyst charges on your final items and just buy the perfectly good weapon from the vendor
like WHY
I'M LOSING MY MIND
face has broken my
mind
if this is true then face is right tbh
NO HE IS NOT
i just havent tried using those for catalyst
Maybe you should just not lose your mind over this?!
This is some level of going off
i just started gearing with honor gear so im saving up conquest and stuff
It was good efficient to spread around the resources a bit for first couple of weeks if you wanted immediate upgrades
You could get a main hand + offhand week 1 for instance but had to wait for week 2 for 2h
ahhh
There’s catchup for it
But uhhh it’s kinda nuts
3500 honor per trophy
Puzzle
I farmed up hella honor sent to hunter
Went to buy item
Bought same item I already had
Equipped it

your hunter is cursed
For the trophies catchup
Well I did 1 pvp WQ 1 normal and didnt get a single spark so yeah, will take some time 😄
I’m thinking of what I want to play next
first i need honor gear :<
You talking about dif sparks then us then?
I’ve been buying honor conversion boxes everytime I hit 15000
Or you're doing them in the wrong zone
this one?
The sparks for trophy of life quest are guaranteed
In war mode
From world quest in that zone
Ye u gotta go to zaralek with WM on
5 from regular, 25 from pvp wq
OH I NEED TO GO UNDERGROUND
yes
i didnt know there is a location there
sorry im just dumb
havent played since season1
i forgot that in pvp quest zones noone will let low hp guy finish it
you can join a raid for those if you're struggling
or a group
people put groups together to do the quest and farm the sparks and things
so im a genius ?
@stray sigil what did u spend your trophies on
It depends really on intentions. I think catalyzing hellbloom gives PVE mog colors which is super bis in terms of efficiency

Yeah it does
Easy LFR + Normal
Using trophies on weapon is also 0 new mogs
Conq on weapon is all new mogs
well, mog reasoning convinced me not gonna lie
based
How I'd use everything up right now
Conquest: 2h + lesser trophy for ring craft
Sparks trophies: shoulder belt wrist cloak
Free craft trophies: helm (or chest same thing) and hold the other one for boots next week
im getting fully confused with the crafts currently due to things like, most people use crafted boots, then on 3v3 bracket i see a guy using crafted belt and hellbloom boots
then noone is using crafted ring
its confusing as hell
There's a civil war for boomies rn that go 4p vs no 4p, but I'd just catalyze the hellbloom shoulders either way
can u cata hellbloom into tier?
Crafted stuff is just to speed up your gearing and tweak secondaries, none of it matters too much, imo crafting belt is inane cuz the hellbloom belt is bis use of trophies.
But you could just craft belt and buy boots instead, it'll just cost 2 extra trophies for 0 gain


im done arguing online
no ur not

bros in vampire she doesnt breath from 'made me look so naive,' until fame fucker. thats why she struggled with the high note for a while
it was lack of breath
shows u technique is key
@clear pulsar u must know this
But I think thats intentional as part of the delivery
And the build up of the chorus
it is thats wat I m saying
its very hard
conscious xhoice to mske it digficult
thats why she strygglef live but she has it down now
yup
thats why i gained respect for her. wrote a hard song to sing and practiced until she got it
YES/NO/DELETE UR CHAR???
delete

Never goon
YES DELETE UR CHAR
Rdru players are the WORST
Real
wtff
@tiny oar Turns out my Mage's 4 set wasn't properly nerfed in pvp when we queued 2s
naturally
100% benefit
u were kinda obliterating ppl lol
Yeah
kek
It was pretty funny that we won 9/10 matches
Feral using 4 piece tier in PVP or just 2 piece?
ill prob use 4pc when i get it
def use 4 piece
Ecuador it was more mastery than 2h and it made a nice round number of 24 thru pies between main hand belt wait and back
Wow I’m drinker thank I think I am
I can’t type
*because *trophies
EQUADOOOOR
We’ll see next week though 15% mastery slap

Wadf real?
Ye
True
Holy real
The one random goth Santa elf I saw at the mall a couple days ago was hotter
He might be right tbh
farming gold weeeeeeeeeeeeeee
He might be
But also like
If you said
Dua lipa is the hottest woman on earth
I would not call you a liar
Look it's always the random ladies working some strange lower end jobs that are absolute bomb shells
Real
It's crazy how that works

You see them once and then never again
This chat getting too real
Me when I saw her
wait
when pig?
oops not pig, scoundrel or something
dua lipa is good
and live too


yo, someone have the trean leap macro ? and the cancelaura one ? 
i would say, he wants leap for trees
and then to cancel them

not sure what does it mean or if its possible

No no
Let him cook
leap to trees
Wild change
with a macro
the cancelaura thingy is more to meld and drink
but i dont think so u can make it to auto leap to a treant
u can try to replace the party2 with the name of a tree
but i dubt it will work
27'50
i'm just alting Rd i through people here would know ^^'
so get my macro and keep trying with the treant name
or arenapet1 / 2 /3
have to be tested in arena
the last ones
i dont play that game for a while, so sadly cant rly help u in this case
It's ok, thanks for trying 🙂
why no 4 set as boomies blizzad fix that please
Enjoy:
#showtooltip
/cancelform
/tar [help] treant
/use Wild Charge
/targetlasttarget
But what if you have 2 treants up
This guy knows
you don't care, it will leap you anyways, maybe on the closer one .. its w/e.
It's mostly a cool trick to do against DK grip, like death as a priest the dk blind when he gets you then fade stun/silence ... 👍
@crystal forge ele is so good rn
Gross
Right
Kinda weird it’s like zoomers or boomers. Not much in between on classic lmao






