pvp

[gloomy nova]

All hunter specs are good mate

[glacial echo]

Hi all, pls tell me what pvp gear for balance is most optimal for crafting

[vast rivet]

yea despite the sense of character planner this page has nothing to do with ilevel stats and gear, I got tricked before too 🙂

actually wowhead doesn't have pvp gear 489 in its database

only 483 ilevel tournament gear

[tiny oar]

++++

[grand mesa]

At 4am?!?!

Ping me to play at 4am?!?!

[tiny oar]

im down bad

i got vault capped tho we all good :D

[grand mesa]

I would queue rn but im in hotel room. I’m happy to heal your dh tho anytime

You know I’m a dh rdru enjoyer

[tiny oar]

hell yea good luck with whatever ur doing rn

[tropic grove]

@vestal citrus are pvpers afk or what

i'm literally playing with 0 embelishments

[tiny oar]

embellishments dont matter

[tropic grove]

precog kinda big

[tiny oar]

precog is nice

i would argue its less important on boomie than like any other caster

[tropic grove]

maybe y

but it also means im 2 489 items behind

[tiny oar]

cuz u already have owlkin adept for fast clones

[tropic grove]

they should give that to feral

[tiny oar]

u dont lose games to this tho

[tropic grove]

too

[tiny oar]

yea bake it into the cyclone pvp talent for em

seems fair

[tropic grove]

trade it for well-honed instinct, give that to boomy and we're good

[grand mesa]

Think alot of pvpers cba rn tbh. Especially with shuffle. Heard shuffle participation down this season

[tiny oar]

@grand mesa this may be the trollest shit ive ever craft but its my alt so fuck it

[grand mesa]

they linked healer MMR with dps MMR for queue matching so queue times longer

And people don’t want to get ran down by DH

[tropic grove]

fair enough

[grand mesa]

I’m sure you’re playing really good too lol

[tropic grove]

no kekw

only boomkin pvp experience i have is doing shuffle in df

to get the elite sets

[grand mesa]

Hopefully shuffle participation continues trending lower

And blizzard axes it and leaves it as expansion only experiment

👍

And goes back to drawing board

[tiny oar]

yep

[grand mesa]

Def troll lol

[tropic grove]

you guys don't like shuffle ?

legit best thing i've seen in years

[grand mesa]

BSL continues scaling monstrously. Think dbl BSL is 1300 mastery

[grand mesa]

No

[tiny oar]

rly wow

[grand mesa]

And you can ask people here I was a shuffle evangelist early on

[tiny oar]

i wouldnt do 2 bsl precog is too nuts

[tropic grove]

why do you hate it

[tiny oar]

but i have bsl / precog on main

[tropic grove]

it has its issues like everything

but overall i think its fun

[grand mesa]

I don’t hate it

I think they were close to greatness did 90% of the work

But then didn’t follow through

And now it’s scuffed and ur saccing 2s and 3s participation for something flawed

[tropic grove]

wdym didnt follow through

[grand mesa]

I don’t think it’s acceptable in any universe for a premiere game mode that may end up being the main game mode have 30m queues

30m+

This is supposed to be the accessible mode for Joe the plumber who gets home from work and wants to pvp for an hour or two before bed

they didn’t make it worth it for healers to want to play

[exotic wolf]

[tropic grove]

yea thats really fair

[grand mesa]

Imagine league or dota or cs having 30+ min queues

Just simply cannot fathom it

[tropic grove]

im guessing this is a very unpopular take but

i think they should add glad mounts to shuffle too

[grand mesa]

Idk how blizz doesn’t really aggressively do shit to make it 5-10m which is long but acceptable

[exotic wolf]

would kill all 3 games

[tropic grove]

think more people would play it if you had actual good rewards

[grand mesa]

I think that applies to all pvp tbh

Think they need to stuff all rating. Rackets with rewards from combatant up to r1 like a Christmas stocking

[exotic wolf]

make glad mounts available in shuffle -> activate FOMO -> make people feel more miserable -> they quit the game

instead of fixing shuffle

sound good

[grand mesa]

Also the more I play real 3s the less I view shuffle charitably. Its barely arena

[exotic wolf]

^ this

[grand mesa]

That’s what makes me mad

They could have done stuff

There has definitely been a lot of smart suggestions offered by community

But we all know why queues are long

that’s what I mean by “didn’t follow through”

Make healers want to queue. Giga incentivize it so healers grit their teeth and play or Tweak it so healers aren’t miserable in there.

but just watched them give really piecemeal rewards as they do some really drawn out stepwise approach of adding alittle bit over time and queues get longer and longer for dps lmao

I thought they would aggressively adjust things last December and that 30-40m queues would be number one priority considering they wasted a lot of time and resources to put shuffle in in the first place. We’re approaching a year now 🤣

[tropic grove]

yea thats big true but on the other hand

people who get glad are people who basically already had glad

feels like there needs to be some incentive to help more people push for those higher ratings

should also find a way to make rbgs great again

[grand mesa]

I think shuffle rbg makes more sense and will do well

more healer friendly

[tropic grove]

only reason i became a raider is becuse i was tired of having to spam through mates to juggle + or - 200 rating a day because pvp guilds dont work the same way as pve guilds

but if i had mates to get glad / hero with i'd probably never set foot in a raid again

[muted haven]

If I see one more Mid ass DPS die 30 seconds into a BG and call out my heals when I’m at a completely different node, I might choose violence.

It only happens twice in a row but idk, it stuck 😅

[tiny oar]

[polar nymph]

@tiny oar Hell yeah

He spellwarded earlier

So he couldn't do anything

[tiny oar]

weeeeird hahahaha

[exotic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-a-sharp-pain-right-here-pointing-to-chest-heart-attack-in-pain-hurt-gif-15608479

i feel that deep in here

[tiny oar]

i saw that and was like wtff

[polar nymph]

Ret brain

[tropic grove]

despairge

[polar nymph]

We're gaming

[vast rivet]

The point here is to build my end season BIS list right now, so I want specific rating on mastery/haste/vers, and so specific gear with haster/vers or not.

[viscid remnant]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/583193484962299916/1169254364146311189/IMG_3132_2.gif?ex=6554bbfc&is=654246fc&hm=b7a3c293ea3869e539d591e7a1832e3a23923cedbbcafeb7c1eb6633ed560e37&

[grand mesa]

R u resto?

[vast rivet]

ahahah funny.

[vast rivet]

ye

[grand mesa]

@clear fox is our resident spreadsheeter

He maps out everything maybe he’s got some stuff for you

[vast rivet]

thanks dude I will take contact

[grand mesa]

BTW HAPPY VAULT DAY MAY ALL OF YOU FIND THE TIER PIECES YOU GUYS DESERVE AND ENJOY 4PC….except lakedh

[tiny oar]

WHAT THE FUCK

[polar nymph]

@tiny oar And I are the strongest in 2v2 now

[tiny oar]

convoke putting in work

[clear fox]

I haven’t done it yet this season, partly because I’m not sure where I want my stats to end up in full conquest. Though I’m 90% sure on bis, and given the HEAVY usage of crafted items we can flex the distribution of secondaries to what we all feel is ideal.
My expected bis is
Helm - Eng craft (mastery)
Tier - shoulder/chest/legs/hands
Weapon - 1h/oh both mastery
Craft everything else

[polar nymph]

It was all Arcane Missiles for me

[tiny oar]

pew pew lazerbeamz

[exotic wolf]

first iteration of convoke was wild

so much fun

so much despair

https://tenor.com/view/hahahaha-gif-27342590

[polar nymph]

(no emoji for Ring of Fire, gg)

[grand mesa]

Next week will be nice

Dbl BSL and envy helm

[haughty compass]

Box when

[grand mesa]

I’m either gonna be in a great mood all week or horrible mood

[tiny oar]

double BSL

what the FRICK

[polar nymph]

Feral 4 set today for me

[tiny oar]

hope i get 4 set

pure vault rng tho

[polar nymph]

We have another charge of the 3d printer today

[tiny oar]

that will be 3 pc for me

[polar nymph]

Priest is in the same state

[grand mesa]

3/4 4pc guaranteed. One of them is with LFR tier tho. Need to hit tier out of vault more than ev

[gleaming gate]

Sorry I got distracted and didn’t respond. Thank you!

[grand mesa]

OP melee, rogue or hunter is always safe bet

[polar nymph]

Feral buff incoming in 15 mins for NA

[clear pulsar]

Another hour

We'll see ig it could be fast

[river solstice]

Dw king it will be quick

[cold bay]

@exotic pelican this one

Very nice people here to answer questions

[clear pulsar]

He's talking about us guys

[cold bay]

Not him^

[clear pulsar]

WHAT THE HECK

[cold bay]

[tiny oar]

i am so nice :)

[cold bay]

[exotic pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-walking-animal-cute-gif-17853297

i saw the 10.2 glad mount and i want it but i am a pve only player D:

be honest is it even worth trying? im mostly bear but i have some pve experience as resto

[main igloo]

is the glyph treant form immune to poly? 😮

[main igloo]

You can easily climb as Resto/DH at the moment I think in 2s

[clear pulsar]

Cant get glad mount in 2s tho

[clear pulsar]

Not knowing how long the season is, hard to say. If you've never done arena you probably won't hit glad your first season, but it's not unheard of, maybe you take to it really easily

But realistically, no shot

[main igloo]

For real? Aaaaawww

[tardy hare]

Negative. Only 3v3. Not shuffle either

[whole wyvern]

HUGe

[velvet quest]

[clear fox]

when shuffle mount

only stupid flag

https://tenor.com/view/i-want-you-to-get-the-word-out-there-that-we-back-up-the-wire-we-back-up-gif-27052207

may your vaults be blessed

[grand mesa]

hit the pvp chest on second shaman

officially 4pc on all 4 toons lfg

[exotic pelican]

The last time I seriously did arena was TBC, so I don't think that counts as experience anymore lol

[exotic pelican]

And I suppose 2v2 rating is separate, so if I get 2400 in 2s it doesn't apply to my 3s?

[grand mesa]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/91325438105767936/1173045401138507869/calf_LvB_200.gif?ex=656286a9&is=655011a9&hm=ea699045247637ebef6e1eb832f1217aa7a0047a57122a4f0cbd52a6fa9cddc6&

[safe heart]

Obviously

Play ret warrior and pve heal them

There's a 60% chance you'll get glad

Just treat it like a raid where there's holocaust damage every 2 minutes and you'll get there

[exotic pelican]

Haha was worth asking

[exotic pelican]

Ret warrior and resto?

[safe heart]

Yes

They do all the work

So you just heal them from the back lines

You unironically may do well coming straight from pve because you'll never try to rake clone anything

Lul

[exotic pelican]

Hey if there's even a small chance then I'm willing to try. And yeah, i never got into catweaving 😂

[safe heart]

Most of the time rdruids throw by not just standing 40 yards away healing and trying to clone stuff

Don't cat weave

Just heal

Don't clone

Just heal

[exotic pelican]

Don't worry I don't want to lol

I can be that annoying guy humping Los and throwing hots, I am pretty good at that. That's what TBC arena was, except I did want to clone

[safe heart]

Yeah so just Don't try to clone anything and you'll get fsrther than you think
Just pick an op comp

Ret war or dh dk

[main igloo]

Literally how i lost so many arenas where the enemy disco does stuff and I dont so I just lose

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/jordan-barrett-mogged-watermaxxing-looksmaxx-looksmaxxing-gif-572186722814409383

[safe heart]

Welll the enemy disc is probably pumping 3x your damage at the same time tbf

[exotic pelican]

Awesome, tysm for the advice. If it's an op comp it shouldn't be hard to find a team. Finding a good team is another story 😂

People love meta comps

In keys anyway

[safe heart]

I mean the appeal of those 2 comps is that no one has to be that good

Rdruid has unlimited heals and mana
Dhdk and ret war have unmanageable damage

[grand mesa]

I think there’s a lot of good comps in general rn and when you’re playing a really good healer it tends to work with a lot lol

[safe heart]

Rdruid with casters is awesome but if the casters aren't good then it's really bad

[exotic pelican]

Well, I'm just thinking back to when people were demanding "God comp" for 2s and then getting mad when they couldn't do the same pulls they see streamers do in extremely coordinated groups and rage quitting

Bad players can find a way to wreck even the best comp lol

[main igloo]

Ofc they are... talking about SS btw

[safe heart]

The pro strat

Is

Do nothing but heal until like 2 minutes in

2 minutes in 1 clone will close the game in shuffle

[haughty compass]

Healing melee cleave seems like a Druid cheat code

[exotic pelican]

But you can't get glad in shuffle, right?

[haughty compass]

Double lego ret warr

[safe heart]

You can only get glad in 3s

No exceptions

You need 50 wins above 2400 rating in 3s

[exotic pelican]

If I dip back down below 2400 bc of a loss, it doesn't forget the wins I had right? It'll just pick back up count when I'm above 2400 again?

Sorry, I know these are dumb questions

[clear pulsar]

I havent been able to open, my bnet wont launch

[clear pulsar]

The same crit vers weapon I took last week and a crit vers bracer bruh

Sockies angle

[polar nymph]

I got 4 set

[tropic grove]

what about spark

[clear pulsar]

Is it available yet?

I didnt look in vendor just took the tokens

[viscid remnant]

kneel angle

[safe heart]

Yes

[viscid remnant]

what is sickle

crit mainhand ?

[clear pulsar]

Yeah

[viscid remnant]

traj

[clear pulsar]

Not the worst, it saved me good conquest I'm ok with it week 1

But repeat week 2

[safe heart]

Once you get a win it's locked in even if you go to 0 cr

[clear pulsar]

Fucking end me

[grand mesa]

Traj

[clear pulsar]

Tier pants on pve druid

Alhamdulillah

Pve druid better geared for pvp than pvp druid

It's joever

[viscid remnant]

just jamp like me

real ?

[clear pulsar]

No jump

[tiny oar]

I'm sorry sweetie :(

my alt rdruid got 4 pc

guess it's my main in pvp now

[viscid remnant]

[polar nymph]

GG

Buffs made absolutely zero difference

[spice oyster]

Anyone got a decent single target pvp build for feral with and without the tierset ?

[polar nymph]

BcGAORarfDaLt4uMx8TYOtl8GAAAAAAACSjIKkkkUSLokkEJJAAAAAAKAkIkgkEJJJhkIlAAAAAAAASAAA

[spice oyster]

Thank you

[polar nymph]

Np

[spice oyster]

Is that for with or without the current tier set ?

[polar nymph]

Doesn't really change.

[spice oyster]

I’m trying to go higher in PvP w my dk friend so I’m tryna improve

[spice oyster]

Perfect

[polar nymph]

It's built around Saber Jaws.

[spice oyster]

Thanks again, appreciate it

[polar nymph]

You can opt in to HotW too if you want quick Clones for 45 secs.

[tropic grove]

why do you all have several druids

tf you need them for

[clear pulsar]

Cuz conquest gear is LFR ilvl in pve

[clear fox]

For things

[tropic grove]

man i love gbing -60 in shuffle after a 30min queue 💀

[whole wyvern]

BUFF REGROWTH

that is all

ty

[polar nymph]

Still heals for 49k

[haughty compass]

Ok so maybe I make a 4th evoker to truly ascend

[clear fox]

Really I just play like 2 after a few weeks

half of those are mount farming

but do break out a 3rd or 4th later in season

or test out random gear idea

[haughty compass]

I made the third to play with homies and now it’s my best geared PvP character and best win rate

[whole wyvern]

BUFF REGROWTH

[polar nymph]

It's over Tantify

They're not going to fix us until a new expansion

[whole wyvern]

[late wraith]

Happy vault day dg! Hope you all get 4 pc or weapons or whatever your hearts desire

[stray sigil]

[terse glen]

comes out to regrow healing about 6% of your HP - can dump about 11 on a full mana bar for a whopping 66% healed with no crits

[stray sigil]

huge buff

feral is saved

[vivid garden]

how far behind will i be missing vault twice?

[whole wyvern]

BUFF REGROWTH

[polar nymph]

Naughty boy

[vivid garden]

i got banned bruh

i wanted to gear my boomy

[whole wyvern]

I rready to fly to blizzard and stand outside with buff regowth signs let me know when you are ready @polar nymph

[vivid garden]

to see i got suspended

[polar nymph]

I'm already there

[livid wasp]

20% buff to regrowth guess its something

[stray sigil]

[strange talon]

it's a 40% buff, idk if it helps tho

[livid wasp]

its probably still bad but it will take 19 heals to go to full hp instead of 20

[polar nymph]

I don't know why this happened but after going to Korthia my healing abilities have suddenly started healing for absurd amounts inside of Arena (140k base heals on Regrowth as an example).

Apparently it's not just happening to me - https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/ferals-gotta-see-this/1724318

[stray sigil]

no itr doesnt

[livid wasp]

yeah regrowth healing for 800k or something, people will get banned for abusing it

[polar nymph]

Relogging fixed mine.

@fair mirage Saw you asking on the forums about it so I'll explain, suddenly a bunch of people started healing for random insanely large amounts on their Feral Druids in the last hour.

Seems going to the Shadowlands is what is causing it.

[fair mirage]

Ooh, fun

[velvet quest]

What if the bug has existed since dragonflight and this was the first time a Druid has ever gone back to shadowlands to do their korthia dailies

[livid wasp]

kinda weird, wonder what could be causing it

[velvet quest]

1hr maintenance diff

[livid wasp]

doesnt covenant shit still work in SL zones?

[velvet quest]

Yeah

[fair mirage]

Yeah.

[livid wasp]

it messes it up somehow probably

[polar nymph]

Which zone is ZG?

Zul Gurub?

[velvet quest]

Well covenant abilities weren’t added back into shadowlands this morning so I don’t think that’s the reason

[livid wasp]

yea but maybe the buff they made conflicted with the covenant abilities somehow idk their code is such spaghetti I bet

[polar nymph]

Some dungeons seem to be causing it too.

[livid wasp]

inb4 they cant find the cause and they disable regrowth

[polar nymph]

For me it's essentially doubling every heal.

For Snupy it was a million

[strange talon]

it'S 40%

[haughty compass]

getting socket on main already

i hate the vault

[stray sigil]

yeah but it could be 80%

it wont help

lol

[strange talon]

regrowth hat a 57% pvp multi, now it has an 80% multi

[stray sigil]

our healing is dog yes

[strange talon]

oh jeah, 40% of shit is still shit

[stray sigil]

that wont stop us from being paper

[strange talon]

not saying it helps a lot

[stray sigil]

it doesnt rly change anything

now if they unnerfed regen

i think that does something

but rg

na

[strange talon]

i'm new, i usually play ret...feral feels like a good target to train

[stray sigil]

how often do u sit there and spam cast rg

and if ur turbo train and u have to sit bear

u dont get ps procs

[velvet quest]

never id rather just die first and go next than run behind a pillar and cast20 times

[stray sigil]

so u dont get rg anyways

so like thgat buff was just mega weird from my pov

[strange talon]

i think it's better to use the instant for the root and kite? the tiny healing doesnt do shit mostly

[stray sigil]

i mean it is better to use it on root because its so insanely weak also

but like healing is the 2nd thing they should address anyways

should address ferals dogshit defensives 1st

3min wall 6s duration

is absolutely from like 10 years ago kind of vibe

its disgusting really

put it in perspective

shaman has a choice node for wall

thats 40% 1.5min cd or 60% 2min cd

and its like 10s + duration

lmfao

[winter pollen]

Think blizz is going to be banning for this though?

it's definitely an exploit, but also like, I still farm shit in korthia, how am I supposed to avoid it?

[velvet quest]

depends on what u do with the bug ig

[livid wasp]

I think if you push glad with it then yeah

[winter pollen]

i just wanna fill my vaults man

I normally do resto though

[stray sigil]

safe bet just wait until hotfix

should be hotfixed today anywyas

[polar nymph]

You know what

I wonder if we weren't experiencing the proper healing buff to Regrowth and this bug was them applying it incorrectly afterward.

[lime light]

But u have also skin u little begger @stray sigil

[stray sigil]

nice joke bro

skin lmfoa

[tropic grove]

you wont get banned for doing old content

[polar nymph]

Because it really did feel like it hadn't changed at all when I logged on first.

[stray sigil]

fucking ep trolling me

[tropic grove]

you'll get banned for going into any rated mode

[stray sigil]

skin is a big joke

[lime light]

JUST SKIN MAN

[stray sigil]

bring back wotlk skin

with crit reduc

real

[lime light]

U could purge wotlj skin

Are u sure

U want it ?

[tropic grove]

man i love clenching my cheeks for 20mins in a melee shuffle lobby only to go 4-2 and get 20cr 💀

[clear pulsar]

Thats regular

I mean

?

[lime light]

Just win one more

?

[clear pulsar]

Even MMR is around 10-12 per round

So 4-2 is +2 rounds 20-24 rating

[tropic grove]

yea thats fine

its just a feels abd when

you go -60

[viscid remnant]

Feji = little beggar

[whole wyvern]

BUFF REGROWTH

https://tenor.com/view/rally-gif-7341139

[viscid remnant]

It alreqdy got buffed you greedy freak

[livid wasp]

EP playing against forsen in cs

[viscid remnant]

Real

[chrome helm]

Should I not sunfire as resto druid in arenas?

[whole wyvern]

look at the consistency asking in multiple discords

I commend it

[viscid remnant]

No

Toomuch mana too little dmg

[chrome helm]

Alright, so I can just remove it from my hotbar pretty much? 😄

[chrome helm]

haha yuuup

[viscid remnant]

Yes

[chrome helm]

Perfect, thanks!

[random patrol]

saw a feral with balance affinity hit a starfire for 600k earlier

that was wierd

[chrome helm]

I saw snupy (on NA) healing for 800k regrowth as feral , so some stuff must be bugged.

[whole wyvern]

sounds good I would like 900k regrowths though

BUFF REGROWTH

[chrome helm]

Yes, for resto aswell please

[whole wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nooo-nope-eat-fingerwag-gif-6587305437700023105

[random patrol]

@whole wyvern they will remove 2 zeros now

9k regrowth

[whole wyvern]

sounds about right

[quiet horizon]

Speaking of ferals. I switched from resto to feral to try some SS and got absolutely obliterated by all melee lobbies and in all caster lobbies was running around like a. Headless chicken.

Is it me or is feral a very difficult class to manage to actually stay in line with DPS of other classes in SS?

I couldn't even get a single clone off for the FF PvP talent buff without 40 interrupts and micro CCs

[whole wyvern]

feral just has a lot you have to manage and you have to know when to pre bear/use defensive things you have to know when to cc you have to know when to heal

[quiet horizon]

I feel like u have to play twice as good just to stay on par with the DPS of a warrior dh or DK

[whole wyvern]

it has the most mircro mananging out of all specs in the game

[quiet horizon]

Like I dusted off my DK the other day just to see what it felt like and I topped damage in all lobbies and won most games (low cr mind u) but I didn't even know what I was pressing half the time

[brisk tundra]

The way I usually describe Feral is "high-skill, mid-reward" lol

You gotta manage a lot of stuff and try way harder than everyone else, usually just to end up on par with them.

[whole wyvern]

yeah and talking about damage on feral you have to know the most optimal way to proc blood talons for the current situation you have to use your abilities so you are energy efficient etc etc

[quiet horizon]

Yes definitely. I really Wana learn to get good at it but feel like it's something that requires months or years of consistency to achieve compared to picking up some other classes and being half decent in a week

[quiet horizon]

This is exactly what I feel like

[brisk tundra]

Feral CAN make some crazy plays tho sometimes.

[whole wyvern]

IT IS GREAT for people with unmedicated adhd or healers that like to dps. You still have a lot going on which is good for your brain. It can be really frustrating for everyone else that doesn't usually play atleast a support/hyrid dps.

someone coming from a pure dps to try to play feral won't have fun

[quiet horizon]

Yeh I get u. I might stick to resto for now and just accept it may not be the spec for me if I want to push some rating

[brisk tundra]

Boomy is super fun if you haven't tried it

[quiet horizon]

Yeh I dabble in Boomie and have had more success. Alot simpler and good fun

I wanna be good at all 4 specs so thought I'd give feral a real go but it humbled me very quickly

[grand mesa]

well

i got smacked

it was a guardian druid too lmao

[clear fox]

GET GOOD GOD

WHY DINT YOU WALL

[whole wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-thanks-bow-tom-choirmaster-gif-16114680

[quaint rapids]

comp stomp is blocked by anniversary bg

https://tenor.com/view/cry-gif-23674110

My ez honor

[quaint rapids]

That's hilarious

My biggest issue is I get told to kite on feral, but shit like dks, ret, and warrior are just glued to me 24/7

Because either grips, basically ranged, or infinite gap closers

[tropic grove]

@tepid spoke i lost almost 200cr in shuffle

its over

[whole wyvern]

SOMEONE MKE A FORUM POST PLS I HAVE ALTS TO GEAR TY

[quaint rapids]

There's already like 4

I don't think blizzard will do anything

Big sadge

[whole wyvern]

they adjusted it last time something was blocking

the day of

[quaint rapids]

I hope so

I'm 2.75 honor levels from the 3rd artifact skin

[misty cobalt]

Um guys

I have something crazy i found out

But i dont want to say it bc then they will fix it

[random patrol]

the feral op boomy affinity

yes it's known

[misty cobalt]

How do i do it

I cant recreate it

[quiet gust]

Anyone understand how thorns and swarm is bugged? How are people doing this?

[stray sigil]

u tryna get banned ?

[gloomy nova]

3-3

3-3

3-3

3-3

3-3

3-3

3-3

3-3

3-3

3-3

3-3

3-3

3-3

3-3

[whole wyvern]

3-3

[paper horizon]

https://vxtwitter.com/snupytv/status/1729591158546792666

[tropic schooner]

doesnt even have hotw up looks like maybe hotw infinetly stacks or sth

how was the setup for it?

[grand mesa]

got sniped

LOL

[clear fox]

HE NEVER WALLS

DEFENSIVES USED

none

[chrome helm]

#showtooltip prowl
/cast [noform:2] Cat Form(Shapeshift)
/use Delicious Dragon Spittle
/cast !prowl

[grand mesa]

i got got

[chrome helm]

Possible to make it spammable without leaving prowl?

[grand mesa]

https://clips.twitch.tv/LaconicPrettyMangoKreygasm--cDowqTkxSKNT-3m

[lime light]

dudder

u got foked

just line it next time

[whole wyvern]

All these night elves and no one can meld a 1.31 million starsurge

[exotic wolf]

wat

[regal nymph]

Looks like the bans already started for people taking advantage of the feral bugs

[tropic schooner]

outplayed

[tropic schooner]

that would surprise me a lot

(that its that fast not that some ppl can get banned)

[strange talon]

Blizz messed up numbers when buffing regrowing

Noone is getting banned for this

[tropic schooner]

if you get yourself a lot of rating

almost guaranteed youd get banned

[strange talon]

For casting your spells?

Nope

[grand mesa]

are you saying you're doing absolutely nothing out of the ordinary to get this behavior?

[strange talon]

I can’t even play

[paper horizon]

unfortunate

[grand mesa]

not just ferals

[strange talon]

I am EU, no patch yet

[grand mesa]

https://clips.twitch.tv/SullenJoyousLorisWutFace-SrpNjKuQzWa-QrZE

bear too

[tropic schooner]

correct youd get banned for willfully and intentionally abusing a bug

to harm your other players

guess depends a bit on what the setup is

[grand mesa]

if there was a situation where u login queue, and they added an extra 0 by accident, and there's quite literally nothing you can do to avoid it

that's one thing

[tropic schooner]

but even without setup if you get yourself 600 rating

by using that

thats not an accident or a "I just wanna q" thing

[grand mesa]

but sounds like people are zoning into dungeons or doing some weird shit to get this effect

[safe heart]

So don't queue today

Ez

[grand mesa]

nah imma play idc

guys who absurdly abuse it gonna get clapped anyway

[stray sigil]

yes u will

lol

thats some dumb shit ur on

[safe heart]

If I get hit with a 1 million dmg starsurge I'm unsubbing

[stray sigil]

if u pressed it once sure

but like u q for 2hours stragiht

with the bug

ofc u get a nice little vacation

they can literally see ur inputs

they know

[tropic schooner]

^

[safe heart]

Shit it's worth the risk imo

It's a feral bug ?

[tropic schooner]

even more so if there is some more or less invovled setup

[stray sigil]

how is it wsorth

ur gonna get banend

[quaint rapids]

queue
Don't abuse bug
Lose rating to people abusing it
People abusing it get banned
Your raiting is still down

[stray sigil]

and ur rating reset

its literally not worth it

[quaint rapids]

It's not worth even if you aren't abusing

[stray sigil]

its gonna get even more wide spread as the day goes

its 100% not worth qin

and if u do that shit u are scum and terrible at the game

[safe heart]

I unsub for now

[quaint rapids]

Can't even just farm comp stomp because blizzard oppsied

[late wraith]

i didn't read the whole thing havve people figured out how to make it happen do they have to do some shit or is it just random?

[stray sigil]

its an exploit

very easy as well

[tropic schooner]

seing as the guys queued guardian

[late wraith]

ahh yeah you'll get put to sleep little kitties.

[tropic schooner]

has to be intentional

[stray sigil]

yeah man ferals pressign starsurge by mistake as the gates open

oops my bad didnt know

[late wraith]

hahahah oops i did an accidental starsurge whoopsie

fat fingered

time for me to open me vault i need all your bad vibes so it ends up good

[tropic schooner]

hope you loot the best weapon possible including leech

[grand mesa]

i hope you get everything you want and more

[stray sigil]

hope u get triple adapt

[late wraith]

i said bad vibes i need bad vibes you are all hexing me

i'm being hexed online

fuji got me

[stray sigil]

i didnt read what u said

i woulda said adapt no matter what

[late wraith]

fuji is a doll

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

doesn't read what i say cause i'm a woman and he's doing misogyny, ends up accidentally doing what i asked, how blessed.

[tropic schooner]

dont worry I read what you said!

[late wraith]

hahahah

[tropic schooner]

maybe get a nice set piece?

[late wraith]

i haven't decided if i want that or not yet, corkiy says yes rudar says no i can't think for myself

[quaint rapids]

Would be nice over a ring

:)

My options were a cape or two rings

At least I have 2p now

[late wraith]

hahahahahhaha

[tropic schooner]

NICE

glad to help

[late wraith]

fuckin great vault man

i'll take the trinket whatever

[quaint rapids]

Man, even the spark farming is probably fucked today

You're gonna get assholes using the druid exploit there too

[grand mesa]

trinket is good

[late wraith]

yeah for sure

it's just almost the same as last week's vault lol

[grand mesa]

something u know u won't waste

[late wraith]

last week was bad one hander, bad trinket bad cloak. but i got socket and put it on me helm so it was fine. i was positive about it

2 necklaces

[stray sigil]

get fucked

[late wraith]

get real

kicking me when i'm already in the dirt

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

it's fine everything's fine i bought a nice candle and a blanket at pottery barn

i'm fine actually

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

the cinnamon spice pottery barn candle is bis christmas candle smell

[whole wyvern]

https://twitter.com/BlizzardCS/status/1729629304567537918?t=_3jn1n6LtZapUMGt96gNKw&s=19

[regal nymph]

Back to business in an hour

[haughty compass]

PvP geared evokers looking nice

Pve Main is trash

[grand mesa]

Cause pve gearing is trash

On the pve side of my wow twitter I just see malding that people have ran a dungeon 40 times and still haven’t seen the thing they’re going for

[late wraith]

simply do 40 m+ runs and get absolutely nothing from it what is wrong with that? seems good.

LOL

[grand mesa]

Like a trinket

Beavs gets bis trinkets in vault for free

PvP is based

Boom

[whole wyvern]

[late wraith]

i keep getting the same thing when i run m+ on bigdingus. i get the same coral necklace and the same bib cloak and the same shoulders

and i don't want any of those items

[whole wyvern]

Next time /dance before you open the chest

[late wraith]

oh shit

i never thought of this

i take out my mini me and put on my fairy wings

dancing is new tech

[whole wyvern]

Blizzard punishes the eager bishes

Sometimes I like to drop midsummer bonfire too

Just to heat it up

You can also try codes like you are playing gta on console r1r2l1l2r1xLDRULDRU

[haughty compass]

It so is, I’m never doing pve first again

[polar nymph]

@viscid remnant

[clear pulsar]

Couldnt be me

I get everything I want and even get duplicates to give away to the besties

My pve druid has pristine gear

[polar nymph]

You couldn't even log in yesterday

Liar

[clear pulsar]

What

[polar nymph]

I sai

d

You couldn't even log in yesterday

[winter pollen]

exploit still working? lol

[tropic schooner]

What

[polar nymph]

what

[whole wyvern]

What

[main igloo]

Heres a funny question.. Why does every resto pick wild growth in pvp when its use is so obsolete

Never mind silly me just didnt pick Natural Recovery

[clear pulsar]

I use wild growth a ton in pvp

[main igloo]

I usually never wild growth in arenas ._. It is an extra hot, i guess… more mastery stacking

I considered dropping natural recovery + wild growth for more offense..

[clear pulsar]

I'm a big early spring fan

[regal nymph]

which set pieces am I looking for as feral?

I got shoulder from vault, but I think is not what we want... 😕

[random patrol]

shoulder tier?

or reg shoulder?

[regal nymph]

shoulder tier, from vault

[quasi timber]

question for resto. should I take the tier chest out of vault? I see it gives no vers, but I see alot of guys running the crafted helmet, so you almost seem forced to run the chest piece?

alot of people had the hellbloom chest though, just kind of confused as to how to run the 4 set and keep as much vers as I can

so run the 4pc chest? or should I get the normal glad chest, dont use a crafted helmet, and then craft a different piece to get the most versatility?

I will end up dropping to like 24% vers getting the chest

copy that, thanks

[clear pulsar]

Tier helm is also heavy crit

But haste instead of mastery

You ahve to use 1 high crit piece for 4p it is what it i

[clear fox]

Guilty

[clear fox]

You want 4 set asap

Weapon > tier > tokens is my current vault Strat

[random patrol]

if only I could play sub 20 vers as a boomy

#versisaboringstatjustgiveuspvppower

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar

guess what that is

[safe heart]

regrowf

[stray sigil]

regen

[safe heart]

LUL

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

i officially

unspecd whi

worthless

[clear pulsar]

It's joever for feral

[stray sigil]

matted fur gamer now ig

[random patrol]

#glasskitty continues

[whole wyvern]

[stray sigil]

5min game

sub 200k healing from regen

[static steeple]

resto 4set is insane

[clear pulsar]

It's fucking stupid how I wanna heal my guy and I hard cast a regrowth on the wrong guy to spotheal

[stray sigil]

dont be a pig healer

@clear pulsar

problem ?

[grand mesa]

u can do extremely stupid shit with it rn

i gotta see if it works thruy smoke bomb/duel

[clear pulsar]

Just so unreliable

[grand mesa]

https://clips.twitch.tv/BlueLightLouseWTRuck-fG6fDQEfy8H2UUmQ

like

lol

also the nourish heal doesn't trigger combat

so can drink ez

i swear ur gonna spend most of your time regrowthing yourself behind pillars

[clear fox]

I just heal main target idk

[wanton stone]

what feral talents are you guys running in SS

feel like im constantly dying

[clear fox]

The unreliability is sus

But when it bombs 250k

It’s like well that seems unfair

[random patrol]

shadowmeld should have a cooldown with trinket

that is all

[stray sigil]

[tiny oar]

remove all racial abilities from pvp

call it a day

[stray sigil]

remove all stats amirite lake

since they dont matter

[viscid remnant]

True

The way it should be

Legion gearing

[tiny oar]

thats right

[viscid remnant]

Im matter but i dont matter

[stray sigil]

when are u full crit vers like u said u would

[tiny oar]

I lvl another rdruid and gear crit vers just for u

[stray sigil]

[tiny oar]

giga chad male troll

[stray sigil]

[terse glen]

anyone pressing regrowth?

[stray sigil]

[ionic sierra]

my homies just came back to the game and is new to resto, can you summon treants not in incarn/tree form??

cant find the skill

swear i see ppl do it tho

[clear pulsar]

Grove guardians

[ionic sierra]

its a button?

he says he cant find in skillbook

[safe heart]

does he have the talent

[ionic sierra]

"ohh"

😆 ty

[tiny oar]

[stray sigil]

@safe heart

we need ur rsham

ipodgreg puzzlesham tidleslay

legendary comp

[safe heart]

I am pog mw now

But am also bedge

[stray sigil]

it was pods demands

he needs triple shaman

he says best comp in game

[edgy shale]

it is

[random patrol]

@tiny oar 10 rogues

they got destroyed though

also cursed ui

[tiny oar]

[worthy badger]

played as 10 druids last night 🙂

I'm trying to get the int/haste/vers weapon from vault.... does it make any difference if loot specialization is set as boomie or resto??

[tiny oar]

doesn't make a difference either way no

[mild spindle]

whats better for resto 2h Staff or 1h(Verdant Glad's Scenpter) + off-hand?

[tiny oar]

whichever has more mastery 💯😎

[mild spindle]

k thx

[crude geyser]

anyone know how druids compare to disc priest right now in 2s?

[main igloo]

I got no tier piece this week either so I guess theres no 4 set for me this week right?

[random patrol]

I can run 4 piece but I'm currently on 2 as balance

if I was resto I would go hard 4 piece all mastery haste

all crafted gear like zero vers(minus tier piece just live fast style)

[chrome helm]

Very low vers only if ur a good r druid?

[main igloo]

Can I equip Verdant Gladiator Signet with Verdant Aspirant Signet? Both are mastery vers

[random patrol]

how bad is sporecloak now? it's asorb shield at max item level in pvp is only 90k and you get about 100 vers when at high health

so pretty bad

(calculations were made using wowhead and I rounded it up)

[tiny oar]

yes

[tiny oar]

pretty dogshit I think most dps are swapping off it at this point

[random patrol]

I mean if you absolutely want more defensive stuff it's an option though at this point more offense is a better defense(stupid cliche)

even with my high vers build I don't want it

infurious or bust I guess

I think even if it was at 180k it would be bad at least with how high health pools are now Idk

[exotic wolf]

Lakerz in the zone

answering a lot of questions

sup

[strange talon]

Safe to queue into druids again?

[rapid cape]

hey guys, do now resto druids plays into Tranq Mind talent for extra clearcast and 5% ?

With 4 set pcs I mean

[main igloo]

Its basically that vs 40% chance to crit when regrowth spamming

Clearcast stacking sounds nice to me though, given that there are situations where you miss clearcasting windows

Also im critting for 500k on the dummy right now wtf

Feral is bonkers now?

[livid wasp]

so NA which class is the broken one with 4-set?

[exotic wolf]

gib Zechey the answers he want

[main igloo]

if 4set boosts DH then I assume DH

Is this normal numbers?

[chrome panther]

dummy has no armor and iirc no vers

[grand mesa]

It might have vers I don’t remember but that’s not what you should expect to see in arena

[fickle shuttle]

so vault dropped verdant shoulders, benevolent robes and verdant scepter. what should i go for as boomy? scepter is versa-mastery

[clear pulsar]

Idk what do you already have?

[signal hawk]

only 2 tierset for moonkin in pvp?

4 not worth ?

[clear pulsar]

4p looks like a whole no brainer for me but ymmv

Some people really overhype secondary stats so they'll say it's not worth taking on 700 crit

Which is nonsense imo but wcyd

[main igloo]

Yeah I know, but I assume people also do some tests on the dummy and I wanted to know how those numbers compared... Friend of mine plays ENH and the highest crit he can get off is 250

[rich crag]

For the balance 2 tier, gotta be careful not to waste it with instant starfire procs right ?

[tropic schooner]

I don't think I have tried to hit a dummy since legion

Maybe for some weakaura tests

The vast majority of people don't test anything with dummies or if they test stuff it's gonna be things like weakauras not damage of random spells

[exotic wolf]

same

[main igloo]

Anyone interested in running some low CR 3s?

[whole wyvern]

need to see what region and what are the other 2 classes

[main igloo]

Feral/Enh. EU. We went duelist last season and are looking for healer ^^

[whole wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/thunder-cats-thundercats-gif-23208761

[main igloo]

Im definitely calling our comp that from now on

[clear pulsar]

I too am a thunder cats ho

[quaint rapids]

did eu get comp stomp

or did korrak's steal it too

[whole wyvern]

[tiny oar]

ill heal thunder cats letsgooooooo

[viscid remnant]

[whole wyvern]

@main igloo

[main igloo]

Got a heal atm

Was fighting sorry. Can do another time if you're up for it! Kinda rusty though

[static steeple]

ok

playing double clearcasting on resto is def the way to go with this 4p

you save so much mana having clearcasting all the time and these 4p bomb heals

i also don't think elder druid / mini hotw with mastershapershifter is that good, not sure why everyone running it in 3s.

[safe heart]

feral shuffle is so traj

[west heath]

does anyone have a new for this season resto build they can give me to import plz

[whole wyvern]

BUFF REGROWTH

[clear pulsar]

Usually most of the time I can actually Starfire I just use main HOTW cd, but I do like mini HOTW mostly for the passive combo point buildup for Maims more consistently

[safe heart]

id give up regrowth if they lowered the cd on wall by 1 minute

howeve

i am straight CLIMBING going 2-4 tho

[whole wyvern]

pog?

[safe heart]

i guess man

[stray sigil]

[safe heart]

im happy to win 1 round rn

[whole wyvern]

[stray sigil]

just dont play shuffle

play 2s

[safe heart]

im work gaming so cant commit to 2s atm

[tropic schooner]

Huge

[fickle shuttle]

nothing only greens so far

[clear pulsar]

Just take the weapon then

Robe isnt bad either, you could make 4p right now, but having the weapon and being able to use conquest on more items should be better for now

[fickle shuttle]

ok thanks

[quaint rapids]

If you get the 1600 token how does it work for pvp gear

Is it a pvp version of the token?

[tardy hare]

Same as for pve

No, vendor just has 2 options

1 with pvp ilvl increase and 1 without

[quaint rapids]

Oh I didn't even notice on my main

[stray sigil]

[tardy hare]

Left side is pve, right side is pvp for me

[quaint rapids]

I was getting it for pve, so I probably just saw vers and went ew

Yeah I think that was the case

Thanks

Playing one char for pvp and one for pve has made it much more pleasant

[late wraith]

i did the same and it's nice

[safe heart]

you also need 1 for each covenant

and then 1 for each covenant for pvp and pve

[quaint rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/vietnam-cats-flashback-gif-10819307

[safe heart]

thats excluding your druid bot army to gather herbs 24 hours a day

[stray sigil]

one day i will have tier on my feral

and ascend

[safe heart]

i have none either

[stray sigil]

well i have 1 cuz i got my 1.6 in 2s last night

[safe heart]

[stray sigil]

not bad for being washed up and no gear

still in greens

also puzzle trolling me

[safe heart]

wall opener incarn win in 25 seconds real???

[stray sigil]

in 2s havent had much problem living

but then again i ahve a rdru healing me

so could be that aswell

[lime light]

imagine if the rdru played with EP

would be 28:0

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

[grand mesa]

True

[stray sigil]

[river solstice]

Not 1800. Bald

Maybe I pvp this week

[stray sigil]

mfer i am 470 ilvl no tier

[river solstice]

What’s the rating inflation rn

In shuffle

[stray sigil]

prob not super inflated

too hard for u atm baldy

@river solstice

[river solstice]

Lmao

[stray sigil]

come back in 4months

[river solstice]

Ima do it just to do it

[stray sigil]

altho ur rdru

maybe u do it now

before u get gutted

do it quick

next week is tuning

i would expect rdru to get hit very hard

[grand mesa]

wrong

we're fine

[edgy shale]

@clear pulsar stop fucking spamming starfire in boomy form and actually heal

[whole wyvern]

somehow i lost my cancelform macro can someone copy paste theirs pls

[still bridge]

im assuming wep is the way to go for first conquest buy?

[grand mesa]

huge 4-2 face

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar puzzle was flaming u

for that ns

dont let him gaslight u here with his nice 4-2 thing

[clear pulsar]

Wtf

[edgy shale]

https://clips.twitch.tv/DarlingCovertBeanHeyGuys-SVwJxiQC6KtPOBQ6

this clip is so good, just triple hotw starfire into dk getting 1 shot

[clear pulsar]

I cast 6 starfires the whole lobby

😦

They kick the shit out of arcane school bro

It's goated w the sauce

[edgy shale]

[grand mesa]

i mean

it was the db knock into ring that did shit lol. idk maybe hots fell off during starfire idk

[edgy shale]

don't try to take the funny away

[clear pulsar]

Had literally every hot I could put up

He also had AMS up

Yeah this is kind of unbearable to watch

Jesus christ

[static inlet]

Hey guys i've got a crafted helm so it's between the ring and the trinket wondered what you think?

Both not ideal but unsure which to go 🙂

[clear pulsar]

Tokens

Socket your crafted helm

[clear fox]

what face sed

tokens

[static inlet]

is it that not worth?

[clear fox]

+100 stats you want

vs like a ring you dont want

and a trinket you REALLY dont want

[static inlet]

true true 🙂 Just sad to skip gear week2 xD think you're right tho

+question

most my enchants have been Vers should I socket helm with Mast or Vers? (Feral)

[clear pulsar]

Yeah gem mastery stuff

You have a massive amount of vers from gear already

Mastery>vers or mastery>haste gems both fine

[static inlet]

Thankyou 🙂

[bright chasm]

Does 4p for resto hold any viability in arenas?

[edgy shale]

yes

[sly vector]

Whats up with arena?!?!

I cant heal shit anymore it seems dmg just increased by 30%

[grand mesa]

I wonder what could have happened

[main igloo]

I hope disco gets a bit of tuning…. Such an annoying spec atm with all their tools in the kit

[safe heart]

RoP dome

[stray sigil]

true i kinda wish rdru would get some buffs

we lack in some department

[main igloo]

I dint think we need buffs tbh

I would appreciate a general survivability change for all druid specs though

[stray sigil]

true i think needs like a wall or sometghing

we die too fast astm

[main igloo]

Most specs in the game have stupid defensives

Kiting, is the druid defensive

[chrome helm]

Started playing healer last weekend and currently learning resto druid, but Im having trouble staying alive vs DH/Warr sitting on me the whole game. End up dying often after 2-3 goes. Any tips?

[grand mesa]

Human wild charge to teammate then stampeding roar if you have it up to get the fuck out of dodge is p big thing that most people don’t do

[stray sigil]

when i play feral my rdru doesnt allow me to

[grand mesa]

Ur banned from human wild charging me I do not give consent

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

I’ve never been dbl leg swept so often

[stray sigil]

my rdru thinks hes one of his treants

stuck to the ground cant move

[edgy shale]

real

[grand mesa]

Congrats ur so unhealable u make the healer that doesn’t have to cast have to cast

[stray sigil]

[clear fox]

use ursols vortex early

and if you arent playing call of the elder druid

do it up