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my gear was good last week of last season XD
ur lucky i cant use kevin james anymore
this is a kevin james moment
Next year all the pvp gear can be upgraded to like heroic track no?

thank fucking god giving u nitro should be illegal
when my boomers do the cupid setupr ight
real?
@stray sigil
@hollow condor
Fuji’s nitro expired? Loool

@stray sigil 
on god the day i manage to hit glad i stop playing pve
glad mount > mythic mount

just stun trap heals and hoj kill??
na but you actually need to be decent
anyone can kill mythic endboss
its too hard

wrong pig
u need to be decent in pve
wdym
actually
nvm
lmfao
the amount of people i've seen in guilds
who grey log every boss
get CE
you even have some of those in HoF
Game must be great for the 20th dumbest mfer in M raid
it didnt use to be like that
I want ce I want the bird
Me too lake
then everything falls to gear / nerfs or both
I need a carry
i wish the bird is a dragonride
I’ll probably buy a boost later
but doubt it
it is mattiu
For that thing
It is I thought
no i mean the form
anu'relos is a dragonriding mount + a druid skin
not the mount
Oh that’s next patch though I thought
Druid forms become dragonriding? Is that real or did I read that on twitter
thats never been announced i think
next expac I heard
next expac most things become dragonrideable
Niceeee

nah
i play it too much like feral
puzzle bought it to him
i try to help him trap
like a pig
Fuji outplayed everyone so hard
he is
but then i have no stun
Actually baited
Puzzle is my friend and also my enemy and I never know which one I’m getting

I guess enemy right now

that's rdruids job
LMFAO
do ur job matty
ok listen
wrong
matt
no
I was puzzle’s enemy once I pinged him in here and then I chased him around in a bg
@tiny oar he is pure afk healer
yes pig cuz im doing 180k hps perma
dispells on cd rotationally
wheres ur fucking maim trap clone off@tepid spoke @tepid spoke
to ur both boomer asses
doesnt clone
@tiny oar he was confused last nigth when i said if u cc war u will lose less mana than just trying to constantly just heal
its true
@hollow condor
wrong

actual pve swine


actual dogshit ret
sancs once per game
doesnt sanc stealth bash and i have to press every cd in the game in the opener
real?
real
pig
@late wraith
u take 10 years to sanc
ofc im gettin trapped
if the trap is already landing when u sanc

piggy

Healer expecting dps to use a gcd for them?
kevin james is part of me
hes delulu
This is the future puzzle wanted
i did spend the gcd

I’m glad you’re happy Fuji
no sanct
gg
just sit on ur trees what do u need sanc for
i do pig its not always possible to avoid the trap
wrong

feji u think i can survive no jamp january
watch cdew
its like 50/50
WHY IS PUZZLE DONATING ME NITRO
dont u dare jump

shut up u bottom bitch
never jump november
(impossible)

In? 😳


where can we see pvp tier list atm?
Tier lists 
I’ll make one for you real quick, it’ll be just as good as the “official” one ur looking for cause they’re all subjective and a one guy opinion
Venruki and supatease frequently put out tier list videos. You can look at spec representation at certain ratings and game modes on website called drustvar
Also tier list is like 70% of skillcapped content lately lol
I would not base anything off of Supatease tier lists.
Tough to choose between faerie swarm and owlkin frenzy stacking thing.
too high to be in tier list
I think tier lists are trash in general but I’m answering a question
I’ve been bad about gym. November - January it’s like pulling teeth

why?
too cold?
Wdym? They don’t belong on any of those tiers
Like you’d have to physically add rows to the tier list cause all those specs are so low
real
everyone knows that zechey agrees that feral is as strong as dh
@late wraith
I think I just get lazy cause holidays
go on
its like washing my teeth at this point
there it is
I’m restarting gym arc again soon it’s gonna be crazy
real
i actually played so good that game
only reason it wasnt a 6-0 is because ret didnt press bubble 💀
Me too 😔 i don’t want to just sit around
ye you q healer
u press q
1 sec pops
lmao
you can see the face of a worried man
when u watch max
rn
I press q for trinket
theyre in shambles
They’ll just go dark again and kill it off stream real quick watch
They’re hiding strats surely
i dont think its a fair race anyway
Yeah seems like liquid needs to hope the timing works out so echo is still a half day of prog from killing during their normal bed time and liquid is tied and outperform them in the final stretch or something
echo just steals every strat liquids comes up with
americs start earlier ?
echo just steals every strat liquids comes up with
So unfair
Maybe liquid should try being the worse guild so they can steal strats and win
kapp
and echo just watches and steals em
If they didn’t stream there would be no hype around this whatsoever
they will inevitable catch up faster
if they dont have to elabrote strats for 2 hours
smol price for more money
They need hype to justify this being a part of esports
Their money comes from streaming tho doesn’t it
i just think they need to release the game at the same time
like
why havent they at this point
lol
indie compani
cause it would suck
Like I wonder how much money they make getting 1st place 0 stream vs 2nd place perma stream
for most ppl
I feel like they should just fly one team to the other part of the world and alternate it every tier
So they’re all on the same time
for a none issue
or well technically the releasing part prolly wouldnt matter much
but ppl would excuse the weeks after
where reset isnt at the same time
etc etc
and reset being at the same time
that would suck for normal ppl
Yeah but they spend the entire season after rwf gearing alts for next race too so if u just fly over for race ur at a disadvantage too
why
so lets say we take NA reset that would mean EU servers would shut down
like
6 pm tuesday?
reset is like 7 am na
not in europe?
isnt EU like 8 hours away from na
NA has 4 timezones
depends where
serevers shut down at 12 pm in my country
Where even is eu is that a country?
it slit non issue
5 don’t you leave Atlantic standard out of this
where on earth are you
thats not standard
Ofc, most people have jobs.
its not real its made up
Actually 5.5 Newfoundland has its own weird one lol
usually servers go down at 3 am Server time at least in europe
12pm is working time, 6pm is not working time.
and especially early on they can be down quite a lot
no not rly that would make eu resets at around 5-6 pm
i seriously doubt 7 am PDT is anything near 6pm eu
Yeah and in early weeks when it’s not always routine 1 hr maintenance
thats 11 hours
its 5pm my time
you think that server resests are instant?
Eu folks coming home from work
usually early on they arent
its
na folks don’t mind as much I think cause a lot of us work
correct why change shit
i start playing at 8-9pm
and it really doesnt matter
and most people dont do that
like id say its unacceptable if the planned server downtime is anywhere between 10 am and like 1-2 am next day
changing the whole way updates work for a world first race is a yolk
global release for 100 players and further inconveniencing EU or NA pick which region to fuck over is kinda fried
like obviously some time zones will get cucked to some degree - nothing can be done about that but if you plan to have the server down in your main time zone - and reality is EU timezone is insanly dominated by central european time (maybe +- 1)
nah
if they didnt care about it we would have class balance already
ppl would just find other excuses then
they have dont buffs/nerfs during rwf aswell
Chinese teams should copy western guild’s ability to copy strats so they don’t have 700 pull prog. Real?
They should just run rwf on separate tournament servers that reset at the same time ez
Give them all heroic gear so no splits
Ez
meh
theres like 3 outliers in pve for dps and 2 for healers and we havent had balancing in almost 3 weeks
ye but thats too much work for blizzard
they clearly care about the race
sure a bit
they barely add content
too much resources would be spent
is not the same thing
@tepid spoke i wonder who was the reason we lost games

balance issues isnt nearly as impactful as server downtime
balance issues is just such a none issue for the majority of players

?
?
yes
the majority of players dont do dungeons
disagree
u disagree?
they do normal
yes
not m+
like heroic dungeons are some of the more basic conteont
nothing to disagree with
its just how its been for 20 years
Even the false impression that you can’t get into a weekly pug +5 or normal raid because of ur spec is a consequence of meta/tuning
and ur arugument in the first place is honestly pretty disengenuous cuz this balance is clearly horrible
i've seen ppl type in spec channels they keep getting denied fromo like 7s
Ww is so bad I swapped from ww to feral for pve this season
I don’t feel like my trees are doing enough healing but I am using them regularly and they’re not over-healing much. They’re not getting killed either. What might be causing them to not heal as much as they should?
@grand mesa
?
I never argued against that

Ww negative aoe dmg without cds and it’s actively unfun playing any of the builds. Like imagine having giga mobility but having to sit in your faeline all day like rune of power for mage but even worse

more meant this statement. Like, saying oh the majority of wow playerbase doesn't get affected by this balance is arguable, but its still way too horrible to allow for this long like its stupid at this point.
I stand by that
they for sure obliterated dh on wednesday
just cuz its not affecting a lot of ppl doesn't mean its somehow ok, and yes server downtime sucks but i'd take more server downtime for a balanced game and i don't think thats a rare thought even from casuals

Finally
id say thats a very rare thought - obviously as everything it depends on the perspective but if we talk early wotlk rerelease for example where you sometimes needed hours to login - or early wod were you could almost not do the quests - and ppl still remember those times cause it felt so absolutely terrible
those are expansion launches though; not weekly resets
Pet battling always has a god comp and it’s disgusting how blizzard turns a blind eye and forces me into playing these fotm pets
sure but even on weekly/patch releases ppl often complain when the servers are still down after like 7 hours
forgot what the recent situation was but I do remember not that long ago people were complaining and wanting game time refunds
i did my first pet battle since they introduced it to catch the little mini version of my bear form and now i kinda want to go find some cute pets
i need one to match my cat raptor

finally not ai ?
Buff dh that spec needs way more dmg
is that dmg or healing
Actually unviable
i think its actions per minute
was the opener yea
ye
its a meme, but funny looking meter
Grip limb deep breath TTS firebreath
Oh yeah the cleaved living flame
Which I still don’t understand
How I get it
It just randomly happened
When I played

firebreath, depends on how many ranks u use
like rank 4 will give you 4 flames et
ahhhhh
That was def an import cdew/lontar build and not actually read anything type of alt for me
I don’t read tooltips that’s so much work


your first game was so funny I watched it again
fuk u
no finally a good type of guy
Did he clone and then try to swap back cat?
Yes
He didn’t know WA puts you into cat auto
what do u think about yogurt male
was so fucking bad
I still do that sometimes, not tooltip issue anymore just skill diff
he seems alright
tbf on alts i just watch someone play the spec
then i just send games
im the worst rogue ever
Nope I am
My analogy of me playing rogue is like when ur watching a YouTube video at 2x speed but the connection is bad so ur always buffering
Might be fried take
But when I do alt
I strongly consider who the streamers are
If I can watch someone good and they stream nightly
Then more likely to play
I'm the same
too old to figure it out
jsut gimme a build and send it
That requires brain cells, no shot im making my own build
copy the build, press the buttons, understand how it works together in a vague way. for alts and mains.
People who enjoy coming up with their own builds are better off playing poe
I said it
I’m not sorry
he said it and he meant it
I experimented and made a few different build templates for devastation, but the class is new so kind ahad no choice
there is way too much stuff to know in base pvp for me to have a complete grasp on what every single talent does sorry. smarter better gamers than me have figured that out already
This is disturbing
Copy a build, turn on hekili, become unstoppable force in pvp no need for cc
this is like people who don't sim because they think they can figure it out with feelings. get real
just press the button
let it tell you what to wear
ez
Nope u shouldn’t trust sims u should just hit training dummy that’s what the smart person said
everytime i see shit like that thing david posted all i can think of is how fucking annoying cleaning that out your hair would be
i remember watching pikaboo explain in a video or a stream how trill sent him sims
and he explaiend it like it was the most incredible shit ever
pvp'ers are another breed of tcers
“This feels better” seems to be the reason for 90% of picked talents with no further elaboration
When people talk about something being a “pve build” do they just mean a build that just does better dmg with no downsides cause it wasn’t feelycrafted?
I have always been a feelycraft gamer
Problem?
So this works for me
🧕


@tepid spoke you still raid right, how hard do you laugh when you see a pvp streamer try to explain his gearing and enchant choices without a single source other than "yea but if you get 17.97Y5% crit then it makes it so that you can play this helmet instead that gives you 300 more haste which lets you cast frostbolt xyz % faster"
you press raidbot sim
Yeah but ur comparing rly good pvpers vs average or bad pve’ers for the most part
Is it because I have 29 versa and not 30
The most egregious thing imo, I do find it funny when pvpers let tier bonuses go because the secondaries aren’t ideal on those pieces
tanks trying to figure out why they died but they still have 9 defensives available
Bro don’t get 30 vers that’s vers cap it’s being wasted
ye, in all fairness it seems like at least the smarter pvers know stats are dumb, but even some 'smarter' pvpers i've seen are like I NEED 9923.12944% mastery or ELSE
yea if you even raid mythic a little bit you know that stats are bs
i need to craft a weapon and get a trophy for .2052% more msatery
you just follow the robot
its like....bruh lol just get any piece its fine
and check logs for what build works best on which fight
like each bonus is liek what around an 5-12% gain in throughput in pve setting? 1:1 won’t be the same in pvp setting but def will be more than slightly less optimal secondaries
tier ? it depends but yea usually around that for the "bigger" gains
Idk I just dont get the mockery when the only reason some pveers arent like that is cuz you have an automated tool you're yelled at to follow over and over, not cuz pveers are inherently smart people lol
Just silly, you arent smarter, your game mode is just easier to replicated in automated tests
Some tier the QoL is really nice, like balance 2p
Mocking is good cause I can’t beat them at pvp so I need to feel superior in my gearing and talent decision making
I do decide who to copy off murlok, don’t diminish the work I put into setting up my characters ok
That one is a classic
Its not like pvpers can't also use sims to find info about whats best. they notoriously only pay attention to pvp and not game changes as much. Like go ask every ferla pvper how apex changed this tier and i bet they don't know
Simc used to have a pvp check mark, idk what it did at all. I think maybe just crit nerf and maaaaybe spell nerfs/buffs pvp-only. But probably got done once and then never again.
its not like they're stupied cuz of that, they just don't check idk lol
u try so hard to be like fuji the creator of necro
u yearn to create something
feral squishy??
yeah

sure but it makes the average playerbase of one game mode more aware in general

@tepid spoke 3 games in a row that we all go 3-3 except the 2 healers, one of them goes 6-0 other goes 0-6
If you believe that

Says a lot about awareness
most pvpers dont even know their proper rotation ?
my thought is mainly that if u ask a longtime pver a question who does tc and stuff, theres liek a 99% chance ur gonna get an accurate answer based on data. If u ask pikaboo something about rogue hes gonna give a good answer prob, but not anything based on more than what he feels
u see good pvpers running suboptimal idiotic stuff all the time
obvv the dregs of both communities are clueless
^
feral isnt squishy its really durable
lol
squishy and durable arent exactly the same thing
@hollow condor

Real pod?
thx bro
youre welcome! glad to help any time!

Forsen power

im sorry just came from forsens funeral a bit fucked in the head atm
What’s going on with zechey is he doing an elaborate bit or is he trying a new positive thing
dont assume
REAL texass need hekili
RIP 

@tepid spoke close
U got it babe
every lobby is so coinflip its actually hilarious
either full melee
or full casters
what kind of builds are y'all running in 2s as resto (with hunter)


more ai though
anyone got a build for resto druid 2v2 arenas?
@tepid spoke went 3/3 got +1, went 1-5 got -60 💀
Ty
For balance in 10.2, any reason to not put my precog on a ring?
What ring is it? Ig one reason is u get two free trophies and if you made on ring ur using either last season’s ring or spending conquest on a lesser trophy which might delay ur 4 set or weapon purchase or whatever
pretty sure you just can't put precog on ring
I did on my other toons last patch fresh on balance this turn.
But Mayo is right, you would "waste" some conquest buying the lesser trophy, god knows why they didnt' give you one of those also 🙂
You can put precog on ring
these pvers don’t even know how crafting system works
ok popquiz, can u put BSL on a ring? answer within 3 seconds
Yes
but I'm not crafting a new precog until I use my others sparks
Boomie in my lobbies always go 5-1 or something
Insane pressure
Kite and dot
Pve slander wth I said nothing wrong
what else u using sparks on
if not like precock and idk what elese
for healer actually
belt / chest trophies
Engy helm
for pure mastery
the chest for rdruid is heavy crit
Engi bracers so I can brez in solo shuffle
I'm just crafting one
u say this like it fucking matters at all
Planning sparks usage
Trinketing this, now what are u doing. Gg
Waiting for healer to dispel my root
Mayo is a root trinketer too?
thats trev energy
Don’t tell lakez
wait
That makes her lose it
And say hateful things
doesnt dispel
And gamer words
Not a root trinketer no just a root sitter

can I use the trophy on engi helm

So it’s get your second embellish or get the envy helm
imo
I already have the embellish tho
no
I never did that

do not compare us
I just don’t clone I would never int ur dmg fuji

…
I don’t believe you
You didn’t say a thing
No shot you don’t flame about that
He muted his mic so he wouldn’t hurt ur feelings
You are a party chat arsonist

Nah Fuji is a shy boy and doesn’t like comms
Verdancy the truth righ-god I hate you
Yeah I guess will just two set first, then worry about embelish / weapon.
Lakez and Trevvy made for each other
its yes
cant do that when the enhance shoots 2x lightning bolts for 200k no crit each
They don’t like doing things that win
damn
LOL
Does lake deserve trevvy tho
ur gear doesnt matter just rip harder
@silver lichen
god I hate this channel
We did it chat we made her say the thing (again)

👀
Rank 3 legion mining incoming?
I'm a delicate princess
my eyes it will never drop
Fake character until then
dont flame me

I’m doing loremaster all over on evoker 
if gorecki can get sinister gladiator with 27% crit pvp gear on rdruid then none of all ur bullshit tiny optimizations matter
Optimizations matter they just might not be the difference in accomplishing a goal
I'm a DELICATE PRINCESS
I can’t believe this all started from lakez being helpful and answering and question about crafting

You rooted her
what the fuck
🙏 
my temper is iron clad now
Why does she hates us tho
what's a good pvp build for resto for solo shuffle? I checked a few guides but didn't find much.

I'm the definition of inner tranquility
Where rogue
pins has a build
Why is ur inner tranquility making u say these things
I'm crafting my precog ring with crit vers just to show u clowns how much all of this doesnt matter

go full crist vers no mastery
show us

thank you very much
I DO LOVE LIFE
I LOVE LIFE THE MOST AND SO BIGLY OUT OF ANYONE IN THISCHANEL


There's a decent amount of diversity people play around with, some people like germination instead of incarn, some people like to pick up cat talents for stuns. The build in the pins is the most standard safe one.
@grand mesa you travel yet?
To where
Nah
i just want to be able to spam solo shuffle for the honor druid form
but we’re busy
holy fuck I want it
The wives been making. The dumplings all day
The men were supervising
From the couch
watching tv

Alhamdulillah
isnt it guaranteed regardless

ig not if you're not doing keys
my feral is guaranteed 4 set week 7 get on my level nerds
what does keys hvae to do with anything tho
vault isnt guarantee
can u teach me
Needed to get tier from vault or some other way to guarantee next week
the token thing for whatever rating it is
1600 token + 2 charges
2500 ?
its same as the 1600 token and aotc token, either or. not both
2k I thought
wait do we only get one
Yes
same token can get it diff ways
rofl
Lake thinks shes iron clad
i could ruin her mental so quickly
nah better this way, so ppl arent forced to grind other game modes for early season power
fucking try I dare u
how is this dogshit
are you at work?
no
log on
Ye lakez is fried for this one
Same token can get it any game mode u prefer
I'm being sarcastic RELAX
seems based
I need ice cream and a monster first
ur such a coward
u dont wanna deal with me raw
u need to be coked up on "ice cream" and monster
why is ice cream in quotes



