pvp

[crystal forge]

yeah in the sheets

kachow

[surreal heron]

no

[velvet quest]

Show me? 😳

[surreal heron]

take it to DMs you two

[tiny oar]

no fucking shot bro lol

actual freak behavior

[crystal forge]

do u think if i have the name girlkisser that women would talk to me?

[tepid spoke]

? U dont need tranq

Except for like 1 matchup

Tranq is a waste of points

[tiny oar]

so ur not even playing keeper?

[late wraith]

no

[tepid spoke]

Unless its a dk aug

Ofc not

[crystal forge]

how do i talk to women?

[tiny oar]

I am very suspect of this

[tiny oar]

just be normal man its easy

[tepid spoke]

If u need tranq ur dog tbh

[crystal forge]

how 2 get hoes

[tepid spoke]

Unless the dk pulls u in the meatgrinder

[surreal heron]

step 1: don't call them hoes

[late wraith]

don't talk to women in world of warcraft we're doing our little spells living our little lives leave us alone

[tepid spoke]

Getting bussy is easier

[crystal forge]

id wanna be called a hoe

[tepid spoke]

You should turn gay

[crystal forge]

it is

gay men flirt iwth me so much with these names

its crazy

[tepid spoke]

And lend me ur bussy

[crystal forge]

no

[tepid spoke]

[tiny oar]

I met my gf in #feral so your results may vary I guess

[velvet quest]

Trevvy can I call u a hoe or will thyme get jealous of us

[late wraith]

lake you're excluded

[crystal forge]

you think i could meet mine in pvp?

[late wraith]

i'm telling trevvy to leave women alone in world of warcraft

[tepid spoke]

Yes im right here

[crystal forge]

how much u payin

[tepid spoke]

Nothing bru

[tiny oar]

I'm just very sus of verdancy over tranq bubble but I'll give it a try

[crystal forge]

wtaf

[tepid spoke]

Ur unkillable anyway

If they go u drop efllo in the ground u will never die

[crystal forge]

what the

[grand mesa]

No tranq is not inting

Except like meat grinder shit

[tepid spoke]

Thats what i said

[tiny oar]

can I drop cult for it instead

[crystal forge]

@late wraith u got any cute single friends asking for mayo

[tepid spoke]

Cult is too good

Basiclaly 20% increased healing

[tiny oar]

yea and inner peace tranq is basically a 1 min cd

[tepid spoke]

Ip is 30 sec reduction

You barely ever press tranq

[tiny oar]

that's the joke

what's the uptime on cult

gimmie the math matty

[tepid spoke]

I can count the times ive pressed tranq with one hand

That was last match

But its an afflock so

The other druid never got to that healing when he was against him anyway

[tiny oar]

can I keep self lifeblooming with verdancy

[tepid spoke]

I mean yes

[grand mesa]

Verdancy procs always heal the rdruid no matter what and where they are

Weird interaction

[tepid spoke]

But if both taking damage no point

[grand mesa]

but it helps ur self healing

u don’t need to be in efflo

[tepid spoke]

(Makes u unkilable)

[tiny oar]

I just dont see it ever being reliable in a shuffle where every player is gonna walk out my efflo in 3seconds

[grand mesa]

efflo with disentanglement

[tepid spoke]

Just replace eflo

[grand mesa]

Is cheaper than rejuv

[tepid spoke]

Costs the same as rejuv

[tiny oar]

maybe I'd play it with like a melee cleave into another melee

any caster on my team no shot

[tepid spoke]

Caster its where its the best though

They just plant on it

And they are immune

[tiny oar]

they're not gonna plant in it in a shuffle lobby

no way no WAY

[tepid spoke]

A lock will

Idk maybe not low rated shitters

But like at the mmr im playing rn im getting only glads and shit

[tiny oar]

yea I can see it being good there

[grand mesa]

Tbh I feel like after this past season a lot of casters have played with rdruids and probably heard them screech to stay in efflo and had it explained to them dozens of times why it’s good. If they see it they’ll probably stay in it lol

[late wraith]

it's me

i'm the caster that is now afraid to leave efflo

for fear of my life

[tiny oar]

I will try this secret tech

[late wraith]

puzzle and ben sat me in an efflo and were like shh shh stop crying you're safe. you're safe here shhhh

[crystal forge]

i wont stand in efflo

no point

[velvet quest]

I don’t see ground effects I just see red bro I pve everyone down even if I die trying

[tiny oar]

ur trolling me

[crystal forge]

ask puzzle and ben

[tiny oar]

[crystal forge]

u think i cared about their puddle

i was holding W on the chunky motherfucker running away from me

[grand mesa]

I don’t remember a whole lot of games with u tbh

[crystal forge]

im forgettable

[grand mesa]

The only distinct one I remember is the one where a resto druid actuallt talented hibernate in DF, kept hibernating you. And you said you refused to shift. And I refused to dispel because you refuse to shift

There was a lot of napping

[tiny oar]

yea ur a big w keyer for sure without a doubt

[crystal forge]

that resto was def a big loser

u spam hibernate ur dying alone

[tiny oar]

WOW

[crystal forge]

good rethink ur actions

[tiny oar]

it does have its uses

[grand mesa]

That was def me in SL

[tiny oar]

not vs a feral

[grand mesa]

Spamming hibernate on feral cackling and saying dance for me puppet and they kept shifting

🤣

[tiny oar]

but like if I'm playing with a mage vs another rdruid I'll bash hib for their sheeps

[late wraith]

it's so easy to shift out of shit like roots but it's also so fucking annoying

like leave me alone

yeah i can get out of it but how about stop it

[crystal forge]

I might gear my rogue this ssn

idk classic is too fun rn

[grand mesa]

idk arena fun rn

just playing and vibing

[crystal forge]

i want this dagger to drop

so i can go to fucking bed

[grand mesa]

I’ve peeked into your stream a few times during the day

You’ve been in that dungeon

For a very long time

[crystal forge]

up to 46

[grand mesa]

Bro lol

[tiny oar]

what the fuck

[tepid spoke]

Are u on the spectrum?

[crystal forge]

im a wow player

are u confused?

[tepid spoke]

An those dungeons arent in and out like retail

[crystal forge]

8m a run

7 if im not dumb

[tepid spoke]

They take 3 years with a full group of 52 year old boomers looking after their grandkids

[crystal forge]

its solodolo

[rigid silo]

how do you survive melee?? I get melted.

[crystal forge]

for a wep

[crystal forge]

if i wasnt farming this id be farming rep

for bis ring so

ill take this anyday

i sitll have like 20-22 rep runs left before i get my ring

[tiny oar]

I dont understand it but I'm glad ur having fun sweetie @crystal forge

[grand mesa]

Tbh

As long as ur having fun ur own way in wow

Who cares

[tiny oar]

yea

[crystal forge]

im enjoying it im just tired and have dailies to do still

[tiny oar]

dont be like torty gatekeeping what people enjoy

[grand mesa]

it’s when people who chronically do shit they don’t find fun and then complain about playing the game

[crystal forge]

zechu

[tiny oar]

@livid wasp

[grand mesa]

aka pvpers

[crystal forge]

LOL

[stray sigil]

[safe heart]

the problem is that there is like 0 middle ground between playing for fun and only having fun in competitive game modes

like i cant play just for fun cuz it doesnt matter

but i tilt cuz its competitive

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

Is it competitive because there’s a # attached

[tiny oar]

sounds like a you problem sadly

[safe heart]

yes but also some in game social weight

[crystal forge]

when u dont give a shit about the number life gets so good

[safe heart]

it is

[crystal forge]

i just walk into arenas and vibe

[grand mesa]

Yeah

[tiny oar]

[stray sigil]

true he doesnt spec maim or kick

[crystal forge]

when the talent tree came out in DF prepatch i told my RL that i wasnt specing into kick

[grand mesa]

the problem with playing with Trevvy is. What he finds fun is not at all what I find fun

[crystal forge]

??????????????????????????????????

[stray sigil]

trev just plays troll shit its true

bo kick no main

convoke

[grand mesa]

Trevvy thinks it’s fun to lose his trinket bonus to play with a pve on use damage trinket that is nerfed 70% in pvp

[stray sigil]

[crystal forge]

thats the fuck shit

[stray sigil]

[tiny oar]

ur play convoke and 50% crit on a regular basis

[crystal forge]

only 50?

[tiny oar]

[grand mesa]

I do remember trevvys first game

He cast clone out of spellbook

[crystal forge]

i never had that bound

if they never implemented the clone FF shit i would never clone

[velvet quest]

Sometimes it takes a little cooking to find some good tech, trevvy might be on to something

[crystal forge]

lost dps

[grand mesa]

I think the clone shit is dope

And with 4pc does that mean u get dbl FFs more often?

[crystal forge]

I might see if Boni will play feral

her dad told her that we shouldnt see eachother cuz i wasnt playing retail

[velvet quest]

Her dad is rank 65 rogue in classic

[crystal forge]

her dad is sick

we love him

[safe heart]

will NEVER understand dps that run from you when theyre dying

holy shit

[lean stump]

yo

@safe heart

so ive been spammin solo shuffle all day im floating around 1500 and i really want to push for 1600 to get the item

playing boomkin

[safe heart]

fair warning i dont play boomkin

[lean stump]

ive just bound a cancel form wild charge to healer macro

would that be good tho

huh?

[safe heart]

yeah its a good macro

[lean stump]

dude wtf are u saying man

wow man

what a useless thing to say thanks

and this is what im worried about too

so when ppl say i hate when dps runs away

hm ok

any other tips

i was 1550 then got 0/6d in a lobby of triple melee

really struggled

[safe heart]

id hold ur root beam till someone gets low

rather than cc chain it
in shuffle feels like you root beam while kill target is half hp would work well

[lean stump]

yeah well i do really well at that sort of thing when im not the focus

cloning and beaming but when im getting bladstormed and smoke bombed its hectic as hell

[late wraith]

your best use of wild charge at this rating is pairing it with typhoon to get melee off you while blasting backwards

which i just saw glyph said yeah

you don't have to get fancy with it

[velvet quest]

Yeah to put it back into basketball terms like glyph you should work on your dribble until u can double dribble or something

[edgy shale]

thats a foul u goof

these basketball analogies are killing me

[lean stump]

kk thanks for the responses

i will wild charge in balance form more

[velvet quest]

Yeah u can foul a few times until red card so it’s nbd just make up for it with a double jump shot

[edgy shale]

[late wraith]

bless mayo honestly

[velvet quest]

Calm down beavs we’re just guys being dudes over here talking sports

[late wraith]

[velvet quest]

Best advice is to just keep queueing and if u lose try to find 1-2 constructive things to work on, or mistakes to avoid next time. If you were 1550 all it took was one decent lobby to get 1600, it’s not like you’re stuck 1200. You’re very much within reach of your goal already @lean stump

[viscid remnant]

[lean stump]

thanks beasts 1570 now

[polar nymph]

Gamer

[lean stump]

1608 boys ❤️

[polar nymph]

My man got it

[strange talon]

how do you guys kite as feral? against warriors for example. i cant escape their mobility

[gleaming gate]

Those of you who play resto and boomy, how are you balancing your gear in the early part of the season

Like which embelishments you get etc

[viscid remnant]

@crystal forge

[livid wasp]

who even owns gaslights anymore

[viscid remnant]

trevvy

[livid wasp]

just googled where gaslighting comes from

bet most people dont even know

some british play about some man driving his woman crazy by adjusting the gas on her gaslights

[viscid remnant]

man zechey u are just abit stupid

[livid wasp]

why

people say ghosting too

like wtf does that mean

I know what it means

but where does it come from

[viscid remnant]

ghost do wooo woo

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-dance-summer-camp-island-ghost-gif-26464800

[livid wasp]

when I play rbg everyone says theyre ghosting a base

[eternal cypress]

sup guys anyone here?

hey is haste the primary boomie stat.. im watching this guide and hes doing mad dmg and mine is no where near his https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtufOdRaYY0&t=677s

[viscid remnant]

read guide from pins

dont need random guys from mr doodoo

[eternal cypress]

lawl

[viscid remnant]

@random patrol

[eternal cypress]

which build for arena ?

[viscid remnant]

it says right there

whatever u are doing

usually normal for msot

normal (decurse) if u need decurse

its written right there

[eternal cypress]

ok so normal.. with the waning twilight talent, where does the 3rd dot come from if not speeced into SF?

[viscid remnant]

man idk i dont paly boomy read the guide

[eternal cypress]

lol ive read it 😛

sure but only proc based?

[livid wasp]

only rogues and dhs in skirms

fotm fotm

[tiny oar]

skirms

[livid wasp]

skirms are nice cant lose rating

[tiny oar]

zechey has such a big brain holy fuck

[grand bronze]

yet the rogue mains still think they are getting buffs soon XD

[livid wasp]

I saw you previosuly talk about others gatekeeping what content some people should enjoy

[grand bronze]

?

[livid wasp]

lake

or something like that idk I just took a quick look

skirms are just chill compared to shuffle

they just need to nerf some classes for skirms and its better

warlock shouldnt have all their defensives there, theyre way too tanky

[tiny oar]

☠️

[livid wasp]

why do you consider skirms inferior

theyre pvp content just like everything else

[teal sentinel]

Hey guys, Whats the fastest way to get honor Gear? Like just spam BGs? Havent been into pvp since sl
How good is the Open pvp Gear?

[livid wasp]

why arent regular arenas pond scum

[tiny oar]

the new blitz brawl is pretty good honor

[teal sentinel]

Ok and do i Need to get the spark gear aswell?

[crystal forge]

if ur a big pver id say no

but if u only plan on pvping on that toon slam them on pvp gear

[livid wasp]

so tough facing mm hunt

there should be a readycheck like for shuffle on skirms

sucks joining a 2v3

feral is like the only melee without good defensives

[clear pulsar]

Only if you make it too obvious

Travels dont get called in the nba u goof

Get real

[crystal forge]

If Beavs is an evoker, I'm her wings. If she's a shaman, I'm the elements. If she's a paladin, I’m her retribution. If she's a priest, I’m her light. If she's a rogue, I’m her poison. If she's a mage, I’m her arcane. If she’s a druid, I’m her nature. If she’s a streamer, I’m her fan.

[viscid remnant]

Consider jumping

[crystal forge]

wanna jump 2gether

[polar nymph]

You can't balance around skirms due to it combining 2v2 and 3v3 together as well as there being no healers in the 2v2 version only.

[livid wasp]

just make a skirm gamemode for classes I know theyre too lazy

im just pissed doing them and everyone else having an immunity and feral has a 6 sec wall

[polar nymph]

Skirmishes are like 2 gamemodes in one that have different rulesets

[livid wasp]

and having to do set ups to do damage

not smash my keyboard against the side of my head and burst down like other classes

[polar nymph]

Feral is balanced the same way Arms is, both are presumed to be playing with healers.

[livid wasp]

its sad

least they could do is give us swiftmend as baseline and make hotw baseline passive

even then the healing is "ok"

[polar nymph]

Swiftmend is undertuned for non-Resto for the amount of globals dedicated to it

[livid wasp]

ive tried to play hotw in skirms, not that much time to use it often

[grand mesa]

I think the consuming an existing hot as a baseline mechanic is archaic but that’s just me

[polar nymph]

I think if it gave you the remaining healing of the consumed hot it would probably be worth talenting

[grand mesa]

Makes it annoying for resto cause you need VI to make it behave normally and insufferable for the other specs

[polar nymph]

Remember how they brought that hot consumption back for Shadowlands then made you equip a legendary to make it not consume one anymore?

[tropic grove]

Show

[grand mesa]

Yeah

[polar nymph]

Classic Blizzard.

[velvet quest]

If trevvy is an evoker, I'm her wings. If she's a shaman, I'm the elements. If she's a paladin, I’m her retribution. If she's a priest, I’m her light. If she's a rogue, I’m her poison. If she's a mage, I’m her arcane. If she’s a druid, I’m her nature. If she’s a streamer, I’m her fan.

I just woke up I’m not editing all the she and hers

[crystal forge]

LOL

@velvet quest new pickup line in #feral u gotta test it

[velvet quest]

Hold on I’m saving this one in my secret folder first

@crystal forge i would take the initial cold water blast from the showerhead for u

[viscid remnant]

i think its hilarious u guys talk shit about trevvy. u wouldnt say this shit to him at lan, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol.

[grand mesa]

False he’s been in the same dungeon for 48 hours Trevvy is a bridge troll

I saw the thumbnail for his stream @crystal forge are u still in there man? Lol

[velvet quest]

Trevvy became my idol the first time I saw him type in a twitch chat

[crystal forge]

52 runs deep

[crystal forge]

was that me simping for marvel

[velvet quest]

Yeah it was iconic I fell in love on the spot

[crystal forge]

I miss Marvel

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-batman-falls-in-love-close-up-gif-15191490740796280635

[crystal forge]

god doesnt exist

[viscid remnant]

real

why would u farm

ubrs

[crystal forge]

weapon

[viscid remnant]

from classic wow ?

for ?

[crystal forge]

i am playing classic

well wotlk

[viscid remnant]

arent u playing wotlk

[crystal forge]

yeah hold

[viscid remnant]

[viscid remnant]

is that like good somehow

[crystal forge]

for an aoe set

[viscid remnant]

2 expansions later

[crystal forge]

yeah

its bis for rogue aoe all through Wotlk

cata they make Fan of Knives scale off thrown weapon

[viscid remnant]

[grand mesa]

@clear pulsar how does DR against a specific school work against a spell that’s multi school

like say 15% DR to nature and then I get hit by astral

[dark vigil]

Guys I’ve been struggling a lot as a feral currently… I was running 2s as resto shammy feral earlier just trying to get to 1600 and some of these comps are just insanely problematic… feels like I’m giving it my all and still losing and the dmg difference between me as feral compared to almost any other dps is insane… possibly cuz I’m constantly playing defensive?

Snupy reached 2.1k in 2s running fera resto druid lmaooo… this early in the season what is 1600 equivalent to? Would it be like 1800 at the end of the season or 2100, etc?

[clear pulsar]

It kinda doesnt then

[dark vigil]

Did a couple of 3s as jungle earlier too with resto shammy bm hunter and had some success but at times the other comps just severely out dmg us like insanely

[clear pulsar]

The multischool damage will do the biggest damage it can out of those schools

It'll calc the damage thru each type and do the most it can

[grand mesa]

Traj

[polar nymph]

As Feral you have no proper defensives outside of Survival Instincts and memeskin so your survability is through doing pressure then running away like mad to reset when they start doing damage to you.

People tend to back off when they start taking lots of damage

If it's something like a DH that can keep up with your mobility the answer is to spam cc on him.

We have zero healing so there's no point spending Predatory Swiftness on Regrowth when you can root something with it

[dark vigil]

Ughhh… I’ve been using big bite single target build rather than bleed single target bleed… should I switch to bleeding single target… go crazy offensively and then run away behind a piller for 10 seconds then go back and rinse and repeat?

[polar nymph]

No, bite is good for single target

But you still bleed things regardless

You run when they recover from your stuns and can outpressure you

[dark vigil]

I’m hearing mixed stuff about this when I ask pros they recommend still using it I feel like without it I’ll be at 0% health rather than within 10% health

[rich crag]

Still working at learning how to kite better and avoid damage as balance, but it's a fun spec 🙂

[polar nymph]

If they're rooted around a corner they can't hit you, Regrowth legitimately heals you for 5% before dampening

It's pathetic

[dark vigil]

Gotcha in 2s usually I’ll just pressure dmg my target and the other one I’ll cc (healer mostly) should I pressure em both then run?

[polar nymph]

Pressure whoever doesn't have defensives rolling on them.

It's absolutely fine to try and kill healers if the DPS is too tanky in the moment.

Or bleed them up if a cooldown is about to end on them.

[dark vigil]

Copy that… kiting feels very tough cuz every class seems to be able to just stick on me that I’m facing in 2s dh warriors dk

[polar nymph]

That's why instant roots are nice

As well as your clones

[dark vigil]

So root clone dps then? As I’m kiting… wouldn’t my bleeds break roots and my clones just get micro ccd or kicked

And if I clone dps then my bleeds wouldn’t hurt them

[polar nymph]

They don't break instantly, it buys you time to kite around a corner, and you still have things like Travel Form leap

If you're able to drop combat and get a stealth out that let's you re-open on the target and if they chased you around the corner they've just lined their own healer

At that point I'd be hoping your own healer has gone in on their healer for cc too

[dark vigil]

Okay bet!!! Imma try changing things up… am I playing at a huge disadvantage as feral resto shammy in 2s or is it still okay like could axtin/snupy get to 2.2k easily with a resto shammy in 2s rn?

[polar nymph]

Should be fine

Only healer I wouldn't want to play with as Feral would be another Druid

[dark vigil]

Okay awesome lol I was doing resto druid feral druid earlier I don’t think we won a single game don’t know how snupy got to 2.1k with that comp already

[tropic grove]

well he's good

you can play anything and get 2.1+ if you're really good

[tiny oar]

++

[safe heart]

I mean 2s really is just stun dps cc healer

Rdruid can bash clone clone clone
While feral Dr stuns the dps

[tiny oar]

yep

[severe remnant]

has balance the lowest hp in pvp ?

[tiny oar]

me and fuji played feral rdruid to ~2400 last expac

[stray sigil]

whos this fuji guy i heard he made axtin and necro feral

[viscid remnant]

[tiny oar]

[late wraith]

gm all

[viscid remnant]

hi

[late wraith]

afternoon davey

evening whatever it is

[viscid remnant]

[haughty compass]

RIP Feral Fuji

[polar nymph]

Fire with Glass Cannon talented has the least amount of health in PvP.

[severe remnant]

maybe but whenever i go in soloshuffle i have the lowest hp and im pretty overgeared ...

[polar nymph]

Glass Cannon removes 15% of the Mage's max HP.

[velvet quest]

If you have the lowest hp you’re probably not overgeared. A lot of specs have bonus hp but I think boomkin has same amount as like feral ww dh etc

[polar nymph]

And Boomy has passive extra armour in their main form anyway.

And melee are super prevalent atm.

Yes I know most melee's deal a lot of magical damage but every melee has physical damage in some capacity of their rotation outside of auto attacks.

Guess I'm a monster 🙂

Ty Apex RNG for smiling on me that match.

[haughty compass]

Pet lobby

[stray sigil]

def pet

its bm demo lol

[polar nymph]

Pet lobby yes, but also a round where Apex kept repeat proccing every time I bit the target

Like, 4 times

[river solstice]

wait when does solo rated bgs come out

i thought it was out

@stray sigil

[stray sigil]

next patch

i think ?

[river solstice]

i will pvp again then

we duo q rdruid lock

[stray sigil]

[river solstice]

or u r bald

[stray sigil]

u are a rdru player

[river solstice]

duh

[stray sigil]

it all makes sense

[river solstice]

what do you think i was

[stray sigil]

everything makes sesne now

[river solstice]

you were there when i go 1800 in 3 hrs

[stray sigil]

i thought u were a boomy

[river solstice]

no mf

[stray sigil]

[river solstice]

thats a fun OS

[stray sigil]

[river solstice]

[stray sigil]

boomy boomer spec makes sense u like it

[river solstice]

it feels like an easier destro

they are both so easy tho

and i llove destro

[late wraith]

does anyone still need spark quest on an alliance alt 🥺

i forgot to do it 😦

[river solstice]

I am a god

[stray sigil]

u are a mythic raider too

pig

bald pig boomer

[river solstice]

luv u fuji

[stray sigil]

[clear pulsar]

The form drops in lfr too

[stray sigil]

so what ur saying is cyon is a lfr raider boomer bald

[safe heart]

Going to the gym without a day of food is tragic

[livid wasp]

so annoying how there are a million different vaults

if I dont pick it for months

and timer for each of them

[velvet quest]

Yeah it’s so annoying how it takes 6 seconds to take your weekly reward I agree

[livid wasp]

should just delete all previous season rewards when new season starts

[clear pulsar]

This is the closest to regular reality zechey's reached in years

[tropic grove]

how do you not pick them for months

[clear pulsar]

Let him have this

[livid wasp]

why should I pick them when im maxed out on gem slots and gear

[tropic grove]

transmog, pick tokens to get sparks or trade them for gold

[clear pulsar]

Yeah its 3k gold a week at least

[livid wasp]

so much effort

[viscid remnant]

???

[livid wasp]

I even forgot to return the spark quest last week

at least I can catch up with honor

[velvet quest]

I’m sorry I forgot this is progress for him I should be applauding him

[livid wasp]

it might seem simple for you but not for depressed fucks like me

[dark vigil]

Damnnnn do you have any videos just so i can learn and see what that was like

[dark vigil]

Be sure to take bcaas if you’re gyming fasted or in an empty stomach so your body doesn’t burn muscle as fuel… I take bcaa energy from Amazon lol as a pre workout

[late wraith]

Just eat a handful of gummy bears as you leave the house it’s fine

[velvet quest]

That sounds like fake science idk

About the bcaa, gummy bears are good idea

[late wraith]

Sometimes I forget to eat then it’s gym time and I just eat whatever I can find fast. That’s how you go to the gym imo

[velvet quest]

I’ve been on a rest day from gym since Covid started

My muscles are probably close to recovered by now but maybe I wait another year just to be safe

[livid wasp]

covid, humanitys biggest excuse to skip workout

[dark vigil]

Lostray I’m thinking you’re probably a gladiator/tank 1 feral ?? What’s your current rating

[velvet quest]

Easy to skip workout when gyms are closed tbh

[polar nymph]

eep

[livid wasp]

yea but can always do basic stuff at home to avoid them completely wasting away

[polar nymph]

I'm not

[viscid remnant]

Bcaas are a meme lol

[dark vigil]

Also I’ve currently been using just single target big bite spec… in lobbies like yours should I change to aoe clone cleave spec? I’m just experimenting in solo right now… but I guess I get overwhelmed with the cleave spec compared to single target where it’s easier to pay attention to my clones bashes etc where as in cleave build I feel more lost

[polar nymph]

I just Clone when I feel like I can get the cast off

No matter the build

[dark vigil]

Lol maybe it’s a mental thing for me but when I gotta do my 6 am fasted workouts they def help but that’s prolly the caffeine part and the tingly thingy

What are you rated in 2s 3s and solo rn?

[polar nymph]

Around the 1700 mark in shuffle and haven't queued any 2s or 3s this season yet

This isn't my main

[dark vigil]

Against mage rogue in twos as feral healer do you wanna stick on rogue for the most part and then swap if necessary he keeps vanishing escaping?

[dark vigil]

Ahhhh okay

[polar nymph]

A full line of bleeds on a Rogue that doesn't have Cloak to wipe them off and isn't playing with a healer is probably a dead Rogue

[dark vigil]

Man I had a dumbass healer that just afjed earlier went 0-6 other healer went 6-0 all of us dps went 3-3 got +1 rating I wanted to smack that dumbass wasted 30 min of my life

[dark vigil]

Wait rogues Cloak doesn’t remove bleeds??

[late wraith]

That’s an enji strat

[polar nymph]

If they have used it they're dead

[dark vigil]

I know mages iceblock twice so it’s tough and they move so I feel like rogue would be better to sit on

[polar nymph]

A smart Mage will play regular Blink against you

[dark vigil]

Also go single target big bite against rogue mage in 2s right

[safe heart]

I normally don't go fasted but my brother is in town and he goes early so I agreed to go after eating half my breakfast loll

[polar nymph]

Either works, bleeds just keep them from getting resets as easy because it eats through the shield

[dark vigil]

I played with a disc priest friend earlier and we faced a dh hpal…. I was tunneling the dh the whole time but he was fighting and going after my healer… after my healer told me if dhs do that go on their healer becuz they do insane dmg do to cleave… did I mess up hard here and what do I do against that comp? The dmg was stupid like 7.2 mil while mine was 1. Something

[polar nymph]

He's right but because you have 1 million ways to stop a DH connecting.

[dark vigil]

Lol at least you got something in you… Man I always gotta wait like 3 hours after eating a meal to gym… don’t know how people can eat and go I feel like I’d throw up

[safe heart]

normally i would have like 2/3s of my calories for the day by the time i go

[polar nymph]

And Feral is generally a good healer killer

[dark vigil]

So single target bleed build over single target big bite maybe better against rogue mage? I know big bite has bleeds to but more bite and vice versa with the single target bleed build

[polar nymph]

I dunno which I would take yet as I haven't done any 2s

[dark vigil]

Gotcha

[polar nymph]

But I get the feeling it doesn't matter much

[dark vigil]

Okay so next time I face a dh healer it’s smart to go healer and cc dh?

[safe heart]

probably yea

you can cc dh forever

[polar nymph]

But I do like Lunar Inspiration for comps I can't connect to

And I guess that also means Swarm now too since people started dropping it for single target

[dark vigil]

I actually use lunar inspiration for my big bite build lol… I take a point away from frantic momentum and carnivorous instinct… and add lunar inspiration and adaptive swarm

Is this okay smart? Or not a good idea

[polar nymph]

No Incarn?

[velvet quest]

How do your st bleed and st bite build differ then?

[edgy shale]

wat

why on earth r u taking stuff out of the bottom gate for the middle

good lord

[polar nymph]

No need to be aggressive

[edgy shale]

thanks for ur input

[clear pulsar]

You should keep 10 points in the bottom section of the talent tree usually

[polar nymph]

If you were going to drop Incarn you'd probably also drop Frantic fully, but dropping Incarn makes the game a lot harder

[dark vigil]

wait hold up i still have incarn lemme show you guys i think im confusing my self

[clear pulsar]

Yes

[polar nymph]

Oh phew

Frantic Momentum is the talent required to get Incarnation/Convoke line.

[dark vigil]

this is my current big bite build

[edgy shale]

[polar nymph]

I'd swap all the healing talents out for Astral Influence and Rising Light.

[dark vigil]

this is snupys big bite build

[edgy shale]

why on earth aren't pvpers taking apex

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/max-verstappen-f1-formule-1-gif-15087359750872636720

[edgy shale]

it procs infinitely even with 1 rip

[clear pulsar]

Looks fine, snupy's the only person on earth that plays healing talents

[dark vigil]

this is my single target bleed build

[edgy shale]

bruh pvpers are so bad at tc its insane

[polar nymph]

Because Apex doesn't interact with Saber Jaws.

[edgy shale]

who cares

[dark vigil]

tc?

[edgy shale]

its still a fuck ton of free damage

[viscid remnant]

bro u are

saying words to me

that i dont know

[clear pulsar]

Have 1 global to bite, your bite is 20% weaker

[viscid remnant]

what they mean

[clear pulsar]

[safe heart]

wat fr

[polar nymph]

And it doesn't proc infinitely on ST after they nerfed in PTR

[edgy shale]

bro lol

i play feral

it does

its a 7.2%

almost doubled what it was before

[polar nymph]

Used to be 9%

[edgy shale]

yes, and?

[velvet quest]

No you’re an ele shaman wth

[edgy shale]

that was extremely broken

in st it procs all the time

nevermind the fact u can multidot

[dark vigil]

but the builds im showing you guys are all single target not my cleave builds which does include apex

[polar nymph]

If you're lucky

[edgy shale]

[velvet quest]

Last season apex proc’d much less in st than this season, that’s why it’s still a very good st talent now, even if it doesn’t benefit from saber jaws

[polar nymph]

Yes, Saber Jaws doesn't benefit from Apex or Convoke Bites.

It's intentional.

Apparently.

[clear pulsar]

Idk if I like dropping CI for Apex

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-cat-monch-cat-monch-spinfal-gif-19376414

[clear pulsar]

Guaranteed damage is good

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/waffling-gif-26189788

[late wraith]

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-bro-waffling-about-rango-blud-waffling-discord-gif-10831194605784478734

[polar nymph]

I'm not against playing it, still trying things out for this season, but your Bite pressure is still lethal without Apex.

[viscid remnant]

[edgy shale]

it can prob go either way, but the fact barely anyone is running apex makes me think pvpers are too uninformed to know it got changed

[polar nymph]

I need to stop saying "just" all the time

[edgy shale]

can prob guarantee apex will give more dam over the course of a game, but maybe ci is more burst in ur ff window

[dark vigil]

what do you guys think of this as a single target big bite build?

i took axtins and modified it... should i swap out mass entanglement for well honed instincts?

[livid wasp]

why is it so hard to win blitz?

[novel wind]

how important is gear in pvp? I feel like i'm doing no damage in arenas

(haven't pvp'd since legion so no idea what i'm doing)

[clear pulsar]

Gear is good, not like legion anymore

Honor/conq gear scale up in pvp to 476/489 ilvl

[novel wind]

well say i'm at 451, is that going to get me destroyed in skirmish?

[clear pulsar]

You can buy some pvp gear on the AH

463 I think

Verdant combatant

Or verdant aspirant

Idk which one

[clear pulsar]

Yes

Just farm bgs for honor first

[random patrol]

get starter gear off of ah, then honor gear once you get honor

then conquest stuff once you have honor

[clear pulsar]

Also turn on war mode and see if theres any world pvp quests with bloody tokens reward

[random patrol]

and do pvp weekly if you can

[clear pulsar]

Bloody tokens are another type of pvp gear that goes to 473/486 ilvl, a bit lower than the instanced pvp rewards but still great for gearing up

[novel wind]

alirght cool

i'll farm out the green honor set first then

[late wraith]

anyone feel like doing rbgsies?

[polar nymph]

Where can I see how many Apex procs I got in details? (if possible)

[livid wasp]

any eu healers wanna heal blitz?

[polar nymph]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

Now anyone who has a real answer please stand up 😛

Jks, love you man

I'm betting on that it isn't possible

[velvet quest]

It’s possible that apex bite doesn’t count as a cast? If so then can look casts vs hits for bite and subtract to see non-cp spender bites. I’m not on pc to check tho

[clear pulsar]

What he said

On buffs tab

[polar nymph]

Wasn't there

[clear pulsar]

This would be for convoke bites

[velvet quest]

Oh I didn’t know if checking buffs would work properly. Ig the only issue is if u don’t spend bite and overwrite one?

[clear pulsar]

Click on the bar in the meter to open breakdown window -> buffs tab

[clear pulsar]

It shows overlaps too

It shows A for applications and R for refresh

[polar nymph]

Not buff uptime I guess?

[clear pulsar]

That just shows how long the buff stayed on you

[polar nymph]

Got it

[clear pulsar]

But the buffs tab in the breakdown window shows this

[polar nymph]

I'll check after the next shuffle then

2 procs an entire match in st

I don't think so

[velvet quest]

How long was the match

[clear pulsar]

It was an entire match @velvet quest

[velvet quest]

Also don’t use 1 single match to evaluate how good an rng proc is

[velvet quest]

Sry I’m dumb I missed that somehow

[clear pulsar]

I think its fair enough tho cuz thats part of a reason not to run it

If it's inconsistently worth 15% damage but also 5% damage

Then it may not be worth over something that does 8% damage every game

Or like not 'worth it' but just I'd prefer the consistent one

[velvet quest]

I need to rely on rng to highroll so I can beat better players though

[polar nymph]

I think part of it is not having Circle too

[tropic grove]

i fucking love shuffle man

[polar nymph]

Every single queue I've had the past week has been 30 mins+

[haughty compass]

90min Qs 👍

[tropic grove]

even at 0 cr my queues were 30mins

got matched against people who were 2k cr as well

how tf is it taking this long if there's no balancing either way

[livid wasp]

healers dont want to play with the current state of DHs probably

[polar nymph]

healers dont want to play

[tropic grove]

i dont even think dhs are the worst

[polar nymph]

I know I don't want to play my Priest now that everyone is back on the Disc equals only healer train again

Don't really fancy getting spec blamed for every single loss

[tropic grove]

how good is murlok.io as a tool

like is there really a 400cr gap between top 1 and 2 in shuffle

[livid wasp]

rank 1 has no job

[clear pulsar]

No, lurferxz probably hasnt played this season yet and its showing last season cr

You can see the leaderboard for real here https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/game/pvp/leaderboards/shuffle/druid/balance

Or en-gb if EU ofc

[novel wind]

is it purposely split again so you have to wear different gear for pvp and pve?

can't farm pvp anymore for raid gear I guess

[clear pulsar]

Kinda. Pvp vault actually scales up to hero track this season.

The same items from conq vendor, same pvp ilvl, but up to hero track in pve

[tropic grove]

yea thats what i thought, thanks

[novel wind]

ah cool thanks

[tepid spoke]

@tropic grove

[velvet quest]

Wow ur hpal looks so clean

[tropic grove]

it looks so underwhelming damn

also idk how you manage to play male nelf

its just so ugly

[rigid silo]

HOW DO YOU STAY ALIVE. I KEEP DYING IN LIKE NO TIME?

What happened to druid. I am like a cotton ball.

[livid wasp]

feral?

[rigid silo]

no balance. Dude I die like nothing.

this is aweful.

did they nerf balance. I can not get away form warriors, rogues and demolocks are unkillable.

[livid wasp]

it's a tough world out there for ferals as well

[prisma flame]

im also dying like crazy as moonkin sadge

[livid wasp]

rogues and locks are pretty strong now

[rigid silo]

they need to fix this

[livid wasp]

people got their weapons this week, maybe they will do some adjustments now that we see which classes are op

maybe they wait for 4 sets first

[tropic grove]

i dont even think boomkin is that squishy but healers really overestimate how much we can take

every game i have a healer sit on his trinket or cds when i'm at 50% and they're cc'ed for 4s

[tepid spoke]

can u not play oath

or thats resto only

[tropic grove]

tf is oath

[novel wind]

does the pvp gear work in war mode?

[tropic grove]

no thats resto

damn thats so op

[tropic grove]

this is the worst lobby ive had so far

in terms of not being able to live

actually unplayable

[rich crag]

@novel wind It does.

[novel wind]

cool

a dragon dude basically gibbed me in 2 casts of disintegrate and it's not interruptable? what's that about

[rigid silo]

lets make druid have all these new skins, but make the a toothpick.

them*

[tiny oar]

[viral granite]

how squishy are feral atm in pvp, havent played in awhile

[safe heart]

extremely

[rigid silo]

well after all this complaining at leat i got the runebear form

[safe heart]

you basically do not have healing or defensives

[random patrol]

feral or as the way I put it "glass kitty"

you can hit hard with bites but you got to kite a ton and play the pillar game

[safe heart]

do your damage and then buya ticket to africa

[somber hazel]

For boomkin arena, do we get into lunar asap and spam instant starfires? Or do we aim for solar and spam wrath.
Does being trained change it

[crystal forge]

what does daylight look like?

[velvet quest]

Did u win

[crystal forge]

no

[velvet quest]

Damn

[crystal forge]

I have an hr then i gotta bedge

i have a shift at 5am

[velvet quest]

Gl babe

[crystal forge]

mwah

[late wraith]

you don't really ever want to be in lunar if you can help it. there are some niche moments it works well but for the most part you want to be in solar spamming wrath. you can use the free instants to get back into eclipse without any casting. or just send them during your incarn if eevryone's grouped.

[crystal forge]

shes trying to farm orange name

[late wraith]

Trevvy

Let me be

I answered a damn question

[crystal forge]

ur so mean tonight

and u didnt even hook me up with a single friend of urs

so we're fighting

[velvet quest]

My friends are fighting

[crystal forge]

she started it

[late wraith]

Yeah I’ll add them when I’m done dinner

What do you mean I’m not ready for regular chat what are any of you talking about. Ever. What are you ever talking about

oh orange name channel got it I don’t want orange name I just answered a damn question

I’m good ty. (I hope you’re doing good glyph)

[safe heart]

@dark vigil

guardians den

[dark vigil]

guardians den

oh channel

[edgy shale]

wat is going on in there

[safe heart]

gamering

[somber hazel]

Are the free instants worth using during solar? Or save to get back into solar

[late wraith]

@vestal citrus

[late wraith]

no don't use them in solar

[velvet quest]

New glyph looks so cute and festive

[late wraith]

❤️ ty

u too

[clear pulsar]

This is sick

@vestal citrus how are things bro?

Honestly's doing well

Probably improving WR this tier

[edgy shale]

[polar nymph]

I ask them the same question in my mind every time I come here too.

[polar nymph]

They're having a Discord date.

[viral granite]

whats fastest honor farm atm, i just came bak need to buy new greens

[clear pulsar]

Cheesey living his b est life fr

[slim token]

anyone who can tell me how to obtain pvp gear from the hero tier? is it just from the token or?

[clear pulsar]

From vault too

Idk if it'll require 2.4 or 2.1 or what, but vault conquest pieces also scale up to other upgrade tracks @slim token

[tropic schooner]

that rdruid left

when saying

after im 2-0

he seems like a very smart individual

[viscid remnant]

[tropic schooner]

like just afk if you want to do that

[lime light]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-peepo-clown-gif-20274817

[dark vigil]

i was in a solo lobby ln with a ret war and dk... mannnn i never stood a chance i think i went 0-6 or 1-5

[clear fox]

It’s a melee world out there

[tepid spoke]

tbh im feeling casters are stronger

[velvet quest]

No I think you’re stronger 😍

[opaque thunder]

2nd embellish for boomy ?

[late wraith]

These bewts for boomy after precog

[tropic grove]

you're on some hard drugs my guy

arms/uh/dh want to have a word with you

[tepid spoke]

i feel like im the only one that thinks they do nothing

or what

dh literaly does nothing

its so easy to heal it

lol

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/zoro-miles-morales-miles-shocked-surprise-gif-13646668700392851337

[tropic grove]

i get killed in bear form through bark with my healer freecasting on me

[rich crag]

Tough choice on the balance pvp talents lol.

I want to take protector of the grove but some of the others are so helpful also

[velvet quest]

That’s weird you have all that armor and it didn’t help against a dh

[late wraith]

Die with honor. Blasting in boomy never in bear

I just say that to my healer before the door opens. I’m in voice doing 3s not solo but just type it they’ll salute you

[grand mesa]

Bear is a sign of weakness

[tepid spoke]

well

[tropic grove]

i legit think warrior/dk is worse than dh rn

[tepid spoke]

this is not news

its literally boomking

since they removed celestial guardian

and tbf

[tropic grove]

idk wasnt as bad last season and s1

i could live

through stuff

[tepid spoke]

the only healer that can heal dh damage is rdruid rn imo

i also have 4p

[tropic grove]

its ok @tepid spoke i already decided i was getting 2400 in shuffle this season as boomy

[tepid spoke]

[late wraith]

You have probably no gear or offset gear compared to others we’re 2 weeks in

[tropic grove]

just gotta wait for all the melees to get dumpstered nerf

[tepid spoke]

mike has gear

he does pve

pvers are more geared thanpvpers rn

[late wraith]

Oh lord

[grand mesa]

Let’s cheer that echo kills today

they just hit 19%

[grand mesa]

Oh HOF too

[tropic grove]

helm has a socket

[late wraith]

What? No! Liquid!

[grand mesa]

Good for u

echo is in the lead and whoever kills boss first I support

[late wraith]

Ew

[tepid spoke]

i mean

[tropic grove]

only thing i'm behind on

is embels

[tepid spoke]

just kill it already

fuckin swines

[tropic grove]

i have 450 precog

and no 2nd one

[tepid spoke]

i want my rdruid buff

[tropic grove]

because i need my sparks for pve

[grand mesa]

Pls buff rdruid in pve so matty doesn’t have to reroll MW

[late wraith]

450 precog? That’s last season

[tropic grove]

yea

[stray sigil]

kill the boss so they buff feral

[late wraith]

Okay well

[tropic grove]

.

[stray sigil]

[tepid spoke]

nop

already brought in rwf

ur doomed

no buffs

gg

[late wraith]

Don’t be surprised when people with a ton more ilvl than you can shred you

[grand mesa]

btw chat we’ve come full circle. Fuji is feral again

[stray sigil]

buff healing and defensive

[tropic grove]

its one item ?

its like maybe 2 or 3 ilvl as a whole

im 481 pvp ilvl

thats more than fine

[grand mesa]

Think the ilvl matters a bit more on main stat pieces compared to pve cause of trinket bonus. But im not a math guy

[tepid spoke]

tbh

i wouldnt even use the embelish

[stray sigil]

did saber jaws do that much

that they are now used in pve

[grand mesa]

It’s raid buff musical chairs

[tropic grove]

freecasting clone is too good, i tried without but it barely matters

[grand mesa]

Which of the Druid specs suck the least

On a fight

[tropic grove]

in pve ?

[grand mesa]

So they can bring mark of the wild

[tropic grove]

feral is just really good rn

if you want motw you bring feral

[tepid spoke]

every spec is ass

feral is the less ass

[tropic grove]

no

[tepid spoke]

so u bring that

[tropic grove]

feral is good

boomkin is good too

rdruid is mid

[tepid spoke]

wrong pig

[tropic grove]

guardian is the only one thats ass

[grand mesa]

if rdruid was like last season

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-mods-crush-his-skull-gif-2213796137681918706

[tepid spoke]

RDRUID IS ASS

[grand mesa]

Idk if you’d bring the other two in RWF

[tepid spoke]

sure wouldnt

[tropic grove]

with the way bm hunter/assa/dh are right now probably not

you'd just bring 4 hunters or some shit

[grand mesa]

Or another assa or whatever

But like I guess that’s me and Matty’s point. If mark didn’t exist you wouldn’t bring any rn lol. Feral just sucks the least

[tropic grove]

think you'd bring one feral/boomy at least

innervate/roar

at least for rwf innervate kinda big

[tepid spoke]

wrong pigg

y

every meta healer has infinite mana

mana tea recovers 800k mana in a fight

but mana should matter bro

[tropic grove]

disc wants mana

bad

[tepid spoke]

lets nerf abundance

disc has

40 sec shadowfiend

they can suck it

[grand mesa]

Matty we had 30s innervate pot

[tepid spoke]

wrong pig

[tiny oar]

[tropic grove]

mattiu do i hit 2k in shuffle today

big question

[tepid spoke]

maybe

[velvet quest]

Guys can we keep this channel on topic please I think liquid is winning this race

[tepid spoke]

if you get 2.1k u send me a nude in dms

k?

moral boost

[tropic grove]

[tepid spoke]

[tropic grove]

dont think i'm good enough to hit 2100 just yet

[tropic grove]

need to get back into pvp a bit more

[tepid spoke]

i just fought against pikashit

[tropic grove]

also why does like half the people i find in shuffle not have gems on their necks or enchants

do pvpers just not enchant their gear or what

[tepid spoke]

[tropic grove]

a ring enchant is literally 100g mattiu come on

[tepid spoke]

i cba bru

i enchant my shit for pve

u know the reason i dont enchant my shit

this gives me depression

[tiny oar]

ur missing 82 mastery what the hell are you doing

[tropic grove]

you can sell 99% of this

[tepid spoke]

[tropic grove]

go bank

void storage

just click on everything

[tepid spoke]

u never know when u need it

[tropic grove]

my bags are clean af

idk how you do it

[tiny oar]

honestly ur 2.1 without a ring enchant so just shows how useless all that shit actually is

[velvet quest]

Actual rats nest wth is this

[stray sigil]

lake with her gear enchant cope agane

[grand mesa]

Matty mine is the same

[stray sigil]

@tiny oar literally lost a game last night cuz i missed enchants

not even trolling

if i had enchants he died

[grand mesa]

I still have chilled clarity from s1

[tiny oar]

every piece of my rdruids gear is fully enchanted

[late wraith]

I like that you’re carrying around your flight whistle

Just in case

[stray sigil]

are u still 4 ssns behind in gear

the lake special

[tiny oar]

I'm 480 ilvl 4 pc next week

[tepid spoke]

@tropic grove

[grand mesa]

Wow

[stray sigil]

i still remember

[tepid spoke]

[stray sigil]

in sl s4 u had sinful pieces

@tiny oar

[tropic grove]

had fun executing for 100K last week

[stray sigil]

i remember too well

[tiny oar]

[grand mesa]

Tbh I don’t think I’ve ever seen lakez end season fully max gear

By that point she’s trying to ascend on another alt in greens

[tiny oar]

unchained gear actually get it right plsz

[tropic grove]

using honor to upgrade gear was too cringe

i understand

[tepid spoke]

it was fun bru

[grand mesa]

The gearing system is so good rn

[tepid spoke]

i was full pve geared in sinful cause pvp gear

[tepid spoke]

WRONG