pvp

[grand mesa]

@clear pulsar is your guy

[river solstice]

there is legit no shield in the game

that looks good with this

[tiny oar]

one of the prot pally artifact shields maybe?

[river solstice]

I dont like any of them

[tiny oar]

[river solstice]

the top looks bad w the set

this looks ugly

esp when on thhe back

[tiny oar]

blue one?

[river solstice]

i look like young link wthe shield

[tiny oar]

w the ribbon?

[river solstice]

which blue

?

does this actually matc tho

[tiny oar]

or is that one mostly grey

nah not that one

[viscid remnant]

uhm

what about

the LIGMA ONE

legit

[river solstice]

I only have these 3 ribbon ones

[grand mesa]

I liked the one from BOD

But idk if it’ll match the theme of yours

[tiny oar]

yea that ones too blue nvm

[grand mesa]

Colors probably match but bod too feathery

[river solstice]

I think the one i got on is the best i can get for shields

[grand mesa]

My proble. Is the reverse

I do y have any shields that are stupid looking

[river solstice]

idk i think this is the closest i can get

[river solstice]

yeah and some look good but are off center on back

or look weird on arm

[acoustic fulcrum]

is there any reason to specifically queue alterac valley as alliance for random bgs?

[polar nymph]

@fair mirage Why are Arms Warrior players the biggest complainers on the forums whenever they're one of the best specs in the game?

[fair mirage]

Dunno. Spec seems to be in a solid place, yeah. Maybe it's just queuing into a few too many mage/lock teams in a row or something.

[polar nymph]

They're all completely fried in the brain

They could solo an entire team and still think they're weak because they had 99% uptime.

[clear fox]

Just seems some specs just have a culture of whining more in their discords / forums

Though do think war is one of those specs, when you’re having a bad time in a match your truly having a BAD time

[grand mesa]

Ferals and regrowth true

Tbh wow forums are a cesspool and I think outside of this one, Most of the class discord pvp channels are pretty light on activity

[polar nymph]

One is an actual problem while the other is perceived weakness.

[grand mesa]

I don’t remember the last time I even went into the wow forums tbh lmao

Not since like vanilla where being level 60 gave you all the street cred

[whole wyvern]

BUFF REGROWTH

[polar nymph]

BUFF REGROWTH

[clear fox]

Can I have a buffed rg too ?

[safe heart]

BUFF REGROWF

[grand mesa]

Yes

[clear fox]

I guess I am with new tier

[grand mesa]

Voulk was saying a big batch of healer changes coming so

And pvers hate new tier

[clear fox]

Oooh spicy

I also hate new 4 pc

Mostly because of stat distribution

But if the free nourish can hit the same target as the regrowth I guess we gotta run it anyhow

[grand mesa]

Tier stats also usually get a second pass closer to end of PTR cycle

so I wouldn’t think of anything set in stone tbh

[clear fox]

I mean probs due for a crit tier for whatever Druid spec wants it

But changes are interesting, don’t think we’re going to be doing too much diff with current setup. Probs just tree over germ and rest the same

Only getting 1 treant from reforest seems meh

I just want the date anyhow

October 31st season end 🙏

But not seemingly likely rn, feels nov 6th right now. Any later and they make na run right over thanksgiving for prog

[grand mesa]

Holiday raiding and malding raiders is a time honored tradition

[clear fox]

Lovely

Does feel like blizz got screwed by their wfh policy change

no way this was their original timeline, has to have been project delays

[late wraith]

i'd be surprised if they start a new season before blizzcon

as the entire staff attend the con and it's meant to be sort of a celebration for them as well. if they launch a new season with new content, presumably people need to be on hand at all times to deal with all the bullshit that comes with pushing new content live.

[river solstice]

I’m pretty sure it won’t be before. Those ppl that signed up for the guild clash wouldn’t be going if so lol

[late wraith]

yeah. anyone who does any wf stuff wouldn't go. even if the raids drop the week after they usually do tons of prep shit right?

[river solstice]

My guess is if it’s not announced sometime shortly before w a date for AFTER blizzcon it will just be announced at blizzcon and we can expect it like 2-3 weeks after blizzcon

So it’s coming up for sure

[late wraith]

yeah i think the same

i'm goin to that shit like a NERD

but i live nearby and half my guild is going so even worse.

[whole wyvern]

I made the guy betting with me last night pay 3.35m for tabard of brilliance

[clear fox]

I just meant patch, dead week / pre season during blizzcon. Then raid and season open week after

[late wraith]

oh yeah maybe!

that'd be kinda neat

[clear fox]

Was my thought a long time ago

Let’s you hype up next expac and .5 teaser since the patch just went live

And nobody does anything in the pre season week anyhow so thought would be perfect

[late wraith]

yeah and no active seasonal content means they don't need as many people actively working on it during that period.

[clear fox]

Nobody trying to get some last bit of rating for a cutoff / m+ score or push for titles

[late wraith]

yeah that'd be cool if they did that

[clear fox]

Also selfishly I’m busy start of November so can’t even pretend to be in the fight for a end of season title if it’s not October 31st ending

[late wraith]

mr. blizzard please end early november is busy

[clear fox]

If they don’t announce this week it’s def not the 31st

[late wraith]

i hate the christmas time drops like i'm old. i have responsibilities.

november - december too busy

[clear fox]

But in any case I think should see announcement in the next week or two

And same endless family travel on the agenda for Nov / December

But for arena it’s kinda irrelevant, I’ll just play when I can or want to

[late wraith]

Yeah i do my annual return to canada for the month of december to see fam.

[clear fox]

And then just get more serious later on

[late wraith]

it's raiding that's annoying.

[clear fox]

Oh for sure

That’s gotta be tough

[late wraith]

i was my little aotc old people guild's raid leader and it made things annoying

[grand mesa]

Raiding

[late wraith]

i knoooow

i actually quit doing it this season cause i only wanted to do arenas. i saw the light

[grand mesa]

🤝

[static steeple]

tranquil mind for tier set

[late wraith]

i can't imagining continuing to prog raid until the end. i always had the same 2 people fucking everything up, i'd sit them, but we're casual and people would make a deal out of it. just mess.

[grand mesa]

Playing when I want and not playing when I don’t want to or got other shit to do is very nice

[late wraith]

it is extremely nice

[grand mesa]

Not sure I can do scheduled sit down can’t get up weekly again

[clear fox]

Unless the free nourish can hit the same target as the regrowth not sure if it’ll be worth. Running 4 pc forces you into two pieces of crit, once of which is crit heavy. Especially given that we often cast regrowth out of los, not sure if it’ll be worth. given it’ll be 50% reduced in PvP anyhow

[static steeple]

oh, tier is still reduced by 50%?

honestly dont understand why the mix around stats like this. like don't most specs want the same stats each season? lol

[clear fox]

I mean someone must like crit

I know as resto I don’t currently

[late wraith]

I was wondering that the other day does anyone still prefer crit?

[clear fox]

Quick murlok survey seems to indicate no

[clear fox]

All the various PvP modifiers are insane how does a new player keep track. For example verdant infusion doing 4 in PvP vs 12 pve is insane to me. Sure tune the hps of spring blossoms, since that’s a throughput thing… but 4 vs 12 seconds changes playstyle immensely

[wanton ridge]

@clear pulsar as a fellow linux user/gamer this made me laugh considering there is a linux version of CS2 "Valve Says Counter-Strike 2 for macOS Not Happening Because There Aren't Enough Players on Mac To Justify It"

[clear pulsar]

Well

Valve is at the forefront of linux gaming tho

And it makes sense for them to push it

[clear pulsar]

The tooltips do update but yeah this game needs to add at least like a little note on the tooltip saying 'modified in pvp'

And a whole glossary of mechanics in the game

[stray sigil]

linux

[livid wasp]

I have a linux pc too

my raspberry pi

[wanton ridge]

that's a nice device. What do you use it for? Mine's a snes emulator mostly

[livid wasp]

got a buddy who sells washing machines people give away for free, it has this script scraping the site where people put them up to give them away, and if it detects any new ones it messages it on telegram via a bot kek

[wanton ridge]

lol nice

[tropic schooner]

what a dickhead

[livid wasp]

yeah he is kind of a dickhead

but whatever kek

yeah the script is so simple

but he justifies his dickheadness with other people doing that shit too

only with this script he gets ahead of all of them rofl

[tropic schooner]

thats not a justification

[livid wasp]

yeah well

[crystal forge]

Me and my healer bravely going to battle with aff locks

[late wraith]

hahahahahha fuck

[grand mesa]

Omg lol

[river solstice]

Trev are you like

On a cringe binge

[surreal heron]

please stop, i beg you

[grand mesa]

I think it’s great lmao

[stray sigil]

that is trev in the video btw

[tropic schooner]

what the fuck

[river solstice]

Lmfao

[grand mesa]

Everytime I watch the video it gets funnier

[late wraith]

His hat is so high on his head

[crystal forge]

I can’t

[crystal forge]

It’s me and Lake running into battle

[cold bay]

You need a detox trevvy

[clear pulsar]

Is that the name of your therapist

Cuz thats what he rly needs

[surreal heron]

definitely a mental detox needed

grippy sock vacation

[grand mesa]

Trevvy just trying to live his best life ok

[tiny oar]

nah man dont drag me into this. I'm officially the sanest person here and u need an intervention 100p.

[crystal forge]

Im livingm y best life

smh

[stray sigil]

[tiny oar]

dont :notsureif: me buddy

[late wraith]

I think you should keep it up

I support you

[tiny oar]

☠️

[crystal forge]

we love cringe vids

[late wraith]

I’m converted

[grand mesa]

Same

Need more thx Trevvy

[fast kernel]

Love it!

[tiny oar]

[cold bay]

pepega?

yea

[tiny oar]

I can't wait to get home and queue assassination rogue solo shuffle in world of warcraft after work ^^

[clear pulsar]

Big dam doer

[tiny oar]

ur owning brother feels so good being a hunter into an rdruid lobby

OH HOW THE TURN TABLES GET WRECKED RDRUIDDS HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

[late wraith]

that's how i feel as a dh in a boomy lobby. now I AM THE BAD GUY

as if i'm not the bad guy as a boomy but you know what i mean

[stray sigil]

fucking bitches rdru

die in hell

scum of earth

@livid wasp real?

[tiny oar]

okay man chillllllll

[stray sigil]

wrong i will not chill until rdru swines are exterminated from world of warcraft

from azeroth

they sre the true villains

the lich king summoned his army of npc undead

rdru summons their armies of npc trees

lick their own anuses while afking behind pillar

@livid wasp real?

[grand mesa]

U finally get your 4pc? 🤣

[clear pulsar]

This woulda been very funny but also

[clear pulsar]

Yes

But Lizard is the real MVP big kill command build bro

I love Lizard

[stray sigil]

[tiny oar]

I love lizard too

[clear pulsar]

He's a feral druid

I'm playing jungle solo

Real?

[stray sigil]

[tiny oar]

[stray sigil]

[tiny oar]

wait does that pet have MS??@clear pulsar

[clear pulsar]

Yep

It's a lizard

Not a cat

Lizard is MS + defensive

Instead of freedom

[tiny oar]

holy POG

[late wraith]

omg affli rdruid 2s is funnn

thinking of adding our friend for 3s which of these options would work best with that? spriest, unholy dk, dh, fury war

oh or enh sham or survival hunter man he's got alts

[tiny oar]

spriest for sure splay is goated

[late wraith]

Niiiice ty lake

[prime osprey]

You're goated

[prime osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/yikes-cringe-gif-26303769

[tiny oar]

HAHAHAHHAHAA

[silver lichen]

owner

also does facehaveback frfr

[clear pulsar]

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/sam-sulek-pool-jump-gif-15806149548518436867

[tiny oar]

same

[tiny oar]

lakesmoke moments before eviscerating noobs in shuffle lobby

OKAY MAN

[tiny oar]

TOOK A COUPLE ROUNDS BUT WE FIGURED OUT THE STRAT

KILL THE CLOWN ASS RESTO DRUIDS

[river solstice]

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/sam-sulek-pool-jump-gif-15806149548518436867

[clear fox]

Real. Those dumb resto druids are running like 15% versa, they all derserve it. rat spec

[river solstice]

[clear fox]

yeeee thats teh gif I was looking for

[tiny oar]

RAT RDRUIDS

IM AN RDRUID KILLER

i know all their weaknesses

[clear fox]

YOU HAVE

...the

secret technique ?

[tiny oar]

no im an assa rogue

[tiny oar]

KILL THE ORANGE BABY

SURELY THIS GETS ME TO 1800

[prime osprey]

Is that a political statement?

[clear fox]

Ye, fuck druids

worst class ever

[silver lichen]

they should definitely revert evvery nerf rdruid has received because rdruid definitely sucks

:3

[grand mesa]

I honestly think rdruid kinda poorly designed

And not sure how to get around it

[clear fox]

The more I play it the more I agree

the rdru design is kinda rough for modern wow

[viscid remnant]

rdru = bm of healers

[river solstice]

Poorly designed in pvp?

[grand mesa]

Yeah

[clear fox]

I dont pve, but for pvp yes

the stacking mastery is kinda problematic

[river solstice]

Idk how you would fix that without changing them as a whole tbh

[grand mesa]

When healing is bad rdruid feels fucking terrible. When the healing is really good it’s obnoxiously afk damp city

[clear fox]

I can outheal ascendance enh burst if I see it coming and drop everything

[grand mesa]

https://x.com/cdew_wow/status/1711855809339048303?s=46&t=68bCkRlgrZvQ7iKaa5Kn5g

I kinda agree with cdew

[clear fox]

That would be one solution

[grand mesa]

If they made playing aggro CC a bit easier and maybe have a bit more outs wrt to the CC you eat if you fuck up or your hots falling off egregiously I think that would be better

[viscid remnant]

yeah its like

[clear fox]

I think another (wild) one would be make lifebloom a bit more like beacon

[viscid remnant]

its either immortal afk healer

or trash and need to outplay

[clear fox]

and just extend it out to like 45 seconds and make it undispelable

and force us to cast into bloom with noruish / rg

[grand mesa]

I think it’s wild that like, when rdruid is really strong, you don’t leverage the free GCDs to omega cc. Instead you afk from narnia pve heal and try not to int

I think that’s problematic

[clear fox]

I feel like its the mastery

with gear can just make insane hps forever if Ive got mana

and win by not losing

[grand mesa]

I don’t think it’s the mastery I do think it’s too strong in DF and has probably bandaid fixed rdruid a lot as we ate nerfs

[clear fox]

Probably not, but I do feel like tree form wrath gattling cannon

will be a healthy amount of damage

was doing ~90k on dummy, but that was with too much versa hitting 0 versa

so like 65k-70k

into 800-900k health pools, seems reasonable at least

or just go nuclear

ban all drinks

[safe heart]

Banning drinking in arena seems like a good idea to me

But I feel like drinking only really works for rdruid

Might be because I'm a newb healer tho

[grand mesa]

Yeah idk if it’s damage or cc

[safe heart]

Hard to imagine having a moment to drink on rsham , though I've only ever oomed in 3s 1 time

[grand mesa]

But I think they need to shift druid kit some so win condition isn’t to just pve heal and sneak drinks until other healer is oom

[safe heart]

I guess drink during double earthen works

[clear fox]

Maybe I’m too used to shuffle duration games but when a regular 3s game starts stretching just feels endless

[viscid remnant]

its easiest for rdru ye

[clear fox]

I’d be on team ban drinks and make everyone play around some kit gimmicks to Regen mana

Like mana tea / reclamation

[grand mesa]

But rdruid still loses I think

In that setting

[clear fox]

With current tuning yes

[grand mesa]

If their healing isn’t oppressive

[safe heart]

Innervate on 1m cd

[grand mesa]

Even if u gave them generous mana return kit

If they were middle of road healing with middle of road mana return they’d actually be so terrible to play

Idk I think expanding their CC options/outs if they fuck up cc and nerfing mastery or healing

Would be my angle

[safe heart]

Druid should be able to shift out of polymorph and hex

[grand mesa]

Make them cc some to win

[clear fox]

just make shifting off gcd and make it skillcap thing

[safe heart]

I can shift into bear cat cheetah and moon owl but GOTDAMN if I get shifted into a turtle I'm fucked

[clear fox]

I mean

but magic

Where are brewmasters getting kegs all the time

it dont need to make sense

[grand mesa]

Clone 30 yards

[safe heart]

From their keg pouch?

Tf u talking about

Shifting off gcd would be sick

[clear fox]

I mean wouldn need some compensation to prevent you from always insta shifting every root etc

[river solstice]

Spawns out their ass

[clear fox]

but id like it so many times I get sheeped becaue im an old man and slow and put myself on gcd while casting

[safe heart]

Don't be old (IMPOSSIBLE CHALLENGE @ 3AM)

[viscid remnant]

wow balance challenge (impossible)

[clear fox]

wow will never be balanced rip

[tepid spoke]

@hollow condor

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CwSz2WZMwvZ/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

jaasiel_dice

🤤 #gym #muscle #trend #tbt

Likes

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Oh wrong disc

[viscid remnant]

[clear fox]

you bout to get HYPED

after that warmup

PR insta after that with your boys

[hollow condor]

[safe heart]

I'm rdy for the weekend alrdy

[clear fox]

same same

[river solstice]

Today is my Monday. So same

[crystal forge]

ok team

[river solstice]

ok team

[cold bay]

ok team

[safe heart]

ok team

[tiny oar]

ok team

[late wraith]

ok team

[tiny oar]

THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A COMMA THERE SORRY

[prime osprey]

Lake using Internet Explorer for discord

[tiny oar]

ur lucky ur cute

[prime osprey]

Ur lucky ur too far away to bite

[tiny oar]

[safe heart]

Is that a political, statement

[tiny oar]

KILL THE ORANGE, BABY

[clear fox]

Okay so venruki complaining about healer mmr (again)

Say blizz just was lazy and said yolo were merging all the mmr pools together

where does this break down systemically

[safe heart]

Does it?

The only thing I could think of is just that sometimes healers get placed in games drastically different than the lobby

[clear fox]

Like they updated the healer formula ages ago to let dps get shorter ques

[safe heart]

Which kinda makes mmr weird and arbitrary

[clear fox]

am I missing somewhere where dps just get fucked?

[safe heart]

Don't think so
I guess the average mmr could be alot lower if you roll a low cr healer

[clear fox]

I mean I guess ideally the game would try to avoid it

I guess you would see some games where dps are donating their mmr to the healers, if they are 50-100 mmr lower

and the game cant find lets say a pair of 2500 healers for the 2500 dps

but can only find a 2300 set of healers, but would "force" healer mmr near to dps mmr

so might not see those large of gaps anyhow

Idk it probs has issues given population mismatches... probably would see the same games where dps HAVE to go 4-2 to not lose mmr due to healers being lower

[safe heart]

I personally don't think there's any reason that healers should only compete vs healers in the first place

[clear fox]

but fuck em, lets see some mmr equivalency

It feels so stressful when you open 0-3 but some dps is either tanking or running the table

AND in current season if there is a mmr gap you might well lose -40 mmr on a 3-3

Idk just a thought

and given blizz probs the easiest thing to do so may eventually happen

really should just overhaul the numbers based ratings, but thats hard... so doubt thats ever happening

[grand mesa]

Because queue times

the original DF system would have worked fine if more players played and they had truly incentivized healers

[safe heart]

Incentivizing healers not possible

[clear fox]

sure long term having mmr parity wouldnt do that much to reduce que times

but there is certianly more than could be done to incentivise

particularly in a way to drag in people from mythicals to heal pvp

[safe heart]

It can't be anything short of a mount at like 1800 imo

[clear fox]

I mean real talk

if you threw in .5% chance at a mount in the healer loot box

youd get so many mount collectors queing, though would mostly be at rat mmr

those people are insane for the lengths they go to to get stuff

farming up honor level 500

[sand panther]

Me: Briefly watching Supatease do ele 3s
Supatease: Resto druid is so easy - you log in and you're 2500
Me: Still bouncing back and forth between 1850 and 2050 rating.....

[late wraith]

more mounts, mogs and title options out of different tiers of arena would bring a lot more people in

not stupid titles like conqueror, good titles

[river solstice]

Dudes bald

[late wraith]

people say this shit about everything and i'm back here like i guess.

then you watch them and they're not just logging in they're sweaty as hell over everything.

[river solstice]

Dudes bald and his freestyles suck and are cringe

[late wraith]

omg the freestyles

i forgor

[river solstice]

[late wraith]

that's cringe content i can't actually handle. that's a bridge too far.

[velvet quest]

@grand mesa are you on illidan?

[grand mesa]

yeah

why

[velvet quest]

i think i just tried to oneshot you

[grand mesa]

leave me alone

[velvet quest]

my ww doesnt rly have pvp gear tho 😦

sry sir i just wanted attention

[grand mesa]

ur bigmayex?

lmao

[velvet quest]

yeah

[grand mesa]

sick

[velvet quest]

i faced away to not fof cleave u im so wholesome

[grand mesa]

ur ruining my fun of just standing in front of efflo in front of everyone and facetanking

[velvet quest]

do u like my mog tho

[grand mesa]

everything

[clear pulsar]

[viscid remnant]

Real

[grand mesa]

they're chasing me man

[clear fox]

meanwhile supatease negative win rate and peak rating 2433 after 823 games

[grand mesa]

think my high score was like 250k hps in the brawl

[velvet quest]

the temple brawl? i love that one

[grand mesa]

with that 50% haste

yeah it's so much fun

[sand panther]

Man htis losing streak - it's like I used to be able to deal with melee cleaves swapping to me and now I have forgotten how 🙂

[river solstice]

Let’s put together an NA RBG push team

Real??

[clear pulsar]

RBGood

Real??

[clear fox]

human form wild charge and renewal are the moves... though eventually you just die

[river solstice]

Can’t wait for solo q rbg

REAL

[velvet quest]

yolo 1500 mmr rbgs are fun i hope the meta doesnt end up being everyone in rbg solo queue spams discord links to get sweaty

[safe heart]

How did he get 2400 with a negative wr
I'm posi on my rsham and I'm only 1700

[clear fox]

other tip is if they are straight up slamming you forever pillars arent really your friend you want to give your team 100% pve uptime. Generally just want to run away from other healer forcing them into the open allowing your casters to cc them

but again... if your team cant kill them eventually youre just gonna die

[clear pulsar]

If you dont win, you lose

Big true

[clear fox]

more of like sometimes youre doing everything 100% perfect kiting wise and cd usage... but still just die / lose

[river solstice]

If you’re not first you’re last

Real

[clear fox]

but youre healer just go next ez

[viscid remnant]

real

the one thing me and face can agree on

is rbadg hate

[clear pulsar]

Streaks, starting at higher mmr from previous season, just how every game's rating system works

Who you play against matters

[clear fox]

probs prior season mmr up to 2100, from there can fluke healer mmr mismatches and stay the same rating

[safe heart]

This is so unfair it's unreal

[clear fox]

its only -15 rounds across 800

[clear pulsar]

I'm super hyped for solo q rbgs too @river solstice

[safe heart]

I'm 51% I think on my sham

But I started at like 1700 or 1600 something like that I think

[clear pulsar]

Win rate is a meaningless metric to look at other than for ego

Or to shit on someone else's ego

Just play game

Win game

[river solstice]

Yeah I think it’ll be fun

[clear pulsar]

Climb game

[clear fox]

I mean just posted it to hype @sand panther

[river solstice]

Idk I always enjoyed battlegrounds more than arena

And I’d like to think I’ve played decently high rated on both enough

[clear fox]

since apparenrly he said 2500 is frelo for rdru, but cant get there himself

[grand mesa]

me too

espo cause u can phone a healer

and duo queue

[river solstice]

Wait fr

[clear pulsar]

Will you be my healer I can phone?

[clear fox]

WHOS GONNA BE MY POCKET DPS?

[grand mesa]

will u be my healer

[clear pulsar]

I will phone you

[grand mesa]

hi ben

my name is also ben

ben*2

taking solo rbg by storm

[clear fox]

Wait real?

[clear pulsar]

WHOA STOP STEALING MY PHONER

[grand mesa]

teag

yeah

[clear pulsar]

I will nev give up

[clear fox]

Once solo rbg avail

I will never be "offline"

phone a friend any time

just not for high mmr sweat fest unless pre-planned

so I can get my mental in order to try extra hard

[grand mesa]

yeah u can duo queue if it's a healer

i think it's smart

if healer has a buddy

more likely to queue

@clear pulsar i am committed to learning spr

[river solstice]

Well I think I am raiding as Hpal next tier

So maybe I pvp on dru

[grand mesa]

yeah

having to decide between sparks vs pve

for pvp

was kinda annoying

i didn't have dbl potion duration last tier for months

[clear fox]

Just make 2nd rdru

[grand mesa]

and i had no sockets when we killed raz

lmao

[clear fox]

or hpala

[grand mesa]

all my sockets went to pvp gear lmao

[clear fox]

and have parked in valdrakken for only pvp

[grand mesa]

first craft was the CC boots

[clear fox]

250k gold 1-70 ez

[velvet quest]

Yeah I had same issue, I have two windwalkers cause of sparks and vault for pve/pvp. But next season I think I main feral in pve and only need to play one monk

[river solstice]

Well as it stands I won’t be raiding on dru so I can commit it to pvp if I want

But idk

[clear fox]

aight aight

I sent sockets week 1-3 this season

[river solstice]

Waiting to hear back from the evoker on our raid team

If he rerolls pala im staying rdruid

If not I will go pala for next tier. Not too hype over some of the changes and tier set anyway

[grand mesa]

aren't big healer changes coming per voulk

[clear fox]

Only datamined were some dumb trinket thing so far?

[grand mesa]

fuck that trinket

i will never forgive blizzard

for making me run BRH 60 times in one week

for that fucking trinket

@river solstice knows

[clear pulsar]

Yeah thats just such a shit idea

Lets make this one bis trinket available for 1 week only out of a 8 month season

[clear pulsar]

Me too but surv is rly fun once you get past the feeling of playing wrong

[river solstice]

Yeah that would be one reason I’m happy as Hpala. I don’t need that shit

And I can sell it

[grand mesa]

still good post nerf?

[river solstice]

For Druid idk

[grand mesa]

i imagine it would be but idk how much rdruid raid healing gonna change in 10.2

[river solstice]

It’s not looking great

[grand mesa]

if we're not perma ramping perma rejuving as much

[river solstice]

Also no actual trinket tuning from raid yet so no telling

[river solstice]

I will be perma light of dawning

[clear pulsar]

I hate the mana conversation in resto

[edgy shale]

wrong

[grand mesa]

are u in the camp

where u believe managing mana matters

i do

[viscid venture]

is boomkin pvp not playing full moon?

or new moon

[edgy shale]

wrong pussle

rdru gameplay is atill spam tejuv

rejuv.cpm mught even be higher

[clear pulsar]

Further than that

If you dont have to manage mana

You are literally not a ramp healer

Ramping can only exist if your healing is limited by resource

Like the GH people were right, Rdru right now is not a ramp healer, you are never ramping

You just always spam full time

[edgy shale]

glory hole

[clear pulsar]

I always do, just find it more fun, but fury of elune is more consistently valuable

You can play either

[viscid venture]

im new to druid so im basing my first spec off of murlok

and the 2700 rbg balance is playing fury

[clear pulsar]

Ok

[viscid venture]

you guys run 27% verse max?

[clear pulsar]

The only player that thinks about 2ndary stats very hard here plays resto.

Tbh none of the active chatters play boomie much, think of secondaries more as what they do and not some arbitrary cutoff.

[stray sigil]

[clear pulsar]

Thugrose's probably at like 33% vers in pvp with that gear, the armory just shows the base ilvl for the items and not the pvp scaled ilvl

Just look up rudar on youtube/twitter/twitch

Or supatease

[grand mesa]

Yeah I agree with that

[clear pulsar]

Oh my fucking god

I just fucked up so bad

[lavish pagoda]

Puzzlebox agreed with you ggs

[clear pulsar]

I was gonna copy the WTF from my main to my 2nd druid

I copy pasted into my hunter's folder

And replaced everything

[grand mesa]

spaceship UI enjoyers when they realize they messed stuff up and now they functionally cannot play the game

[clear pulsar]

I made a backup literally y esterday

But also the weakauras shouldnt be in those folders either way

[grand mesa]

bro

im too lazy to download

adaptive swarm WA

for rdruid

so that means

i just never press that button

[clear pulsar]

Play my incarn build

No swarm

[grand mesa]

i refuse

i'd rather play the proiper build and never press the button

[river solstice]

Press the button

I will just simply pm you in game w the Wa

[tardy hare]

why would u need a WA for swarm

to press it

??

[viscid remnant]

Theres a weakaura that minmaxes how much it spreads or somecrap

Iforgor

[clear pulsar]

Dont play spread in pvp tho

[viscid remnant]

Ah

[tardy hare]

bruh who cares

just press swarm and it heals

[river solstice]

Spread deez

[clear pulsar]

Average ele shaman pvper

[grand mesa]

im used to the bite sound and the yellow glow on raid frame to press it

From pveland

[late wraith]

The dress 🤌

[grand mesa]

Spriest is fun

[safe heart]

Sp would've been so fun to be good at

[clear pulsar]

Like mm

I dont understand how to play it

Idk

I'm blasting off on sv but on mm I'm hardstuck 300 rating lower

[grand mesa]

Just aimed shot

[clear pulsar]

Its hard man

Surv easier

[stray sigil]

i think its the other way around

but face is a man of mystery

[clear pulsar]

Idk like ofc mm is like more straight forward

But I cant put out damage on it

Idk how to position or how to not get shut down idk

Insane strat for shuffle as DPS

Queue up and wait 30s. If no queue pop, go doom scroll for at least 25 mins. Come back. Perfect timing for match found.

[grand mesa]

I need warcraft rumble

[river solstice]

True

It looks fun after watching JB play it

[safe heart]

Justin beiber

[livid wasp]

mobile games

[safe heart]

Tilde

[cold bay]

This is the reason I don’t like playing some casters. I 💯 agree

Idk what im doing on warlock

[tardy hare]

Immolate

[late wraith]

it looks fun i'm down. i need a new lay on the couch phone game

watch some reality tv, play my little games

[grand mesa]

I hope they add a Pc client

So I can fire games during shuffle queue

[late wraith]

smart

[river solstice]

Which spec

I am something of a warlock enjoyer

[stray sigil]

[cold bay]

The one with as little casting as possible. Affliction I think

But I’ve moved on to anti-caster meta = hunter

[river solstice]

why are bg queues so long for heals

[clear fox]

I think they are just long in general. I’ve had success going mercenary to horde, seems population on alliance much higher

[clear fox]

I feel attacked

[late wraith]

Hey Ben, do you spend much time in cat doing damage on rdruid? I notice a lot of these builds take things like maim

And I’m like bitch I cast my little wraths from max range I’m not going cat be real

[clear pulsar]

Ben is the antithesis to that

[tiny oar]

XD

I'm a maimer fr

[clear fox]

Face has my policy on lock, I basically don’t ever do any cat things.

Often don’t even talent rake. When I do just in the opener and the occasional restealth out of cc… I don’t cat

Feel like it’s overall inting to go for cat stuff. To even remotely safely pull it off need run much higher versa which I feel isn’t the optimal setup. Even then feel like just don’t have the time, especially in shuffle. And in 3s better to just run and drink over doing damage.

If you want to do damage just run protector of the pack and surge

Though in 2s exactly the opposite, cat form all day

[late wraith]

Okay that’s good to know that it works in 2s

I still feel too new to be taking the risk of being anywhere near melee on purpose

[broken junco]

I did a personality test

[tiny oar]

happy for you kog

[late wraith]

i always forget what one of those i am

[silver lichen]

lake has best maims NA

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/sam-sulek-pool-jump-gif-15806149548518436867

[silver lichen]

i have definitely gotten a bit flustered and aroused by said Lake maims

veryyy

[tiny oar]

[late wraith]

[safe heart]

quick ez 0-6

[tiny oar]

you'll get em next time buddy

rsham 1800 yet?

[safe heart]

nah

[late wraith]

sorry enji that's the worst

[safe heart]

eh i just straight up couldnt do the hps

too much dmg

[tiny oar]

sad :(

I might try for all healers 1800 before ssn end

and rogue and maybe warr

[crystal forge]

Me after I stomp some 1400 dweebs with Ben

[broken junco]

This is an actual video of trevvy

[surreal heron]

[late wraith]

heisenberg shirt and a fedora. what a find.

[crystal forge]

LOL

Beavs changed for the better

she used to complain about the cringe vids now she embraces it

[viscid remnant]

Grill?

[surreal heron]

corrupting her

[viscid remnant]

[late wraith]

I’ve embraced the cringe

I crave the cringe

[crystal forge]

LOL

[crystal forge]

she was already corrupt

[crystal forge]

ur cooked

[surreal heron]

for posting in pvp, you're right

[late wraith]

Truuuue

It was so easy just a little nudge

And now I’m knee deep in cringe chasing that high

[viscid remnant]

Yes i cook on the grill

Problem

[grand mesa]

trevvy

waht side of the tiktok algo are u on

to even see these

im mostly food tok lmao

[late wraith]

My TikTok is an absolute shambles

The algorithm doesn’t know what to do with me

[surreal heron]

mine's pretty good

[viscid remnant]

I heckin love tiktok

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-xi-jinping-itsrucka-lets-drink-to-that-to-us-gif-23889087

[late wraith]

I don’t even necessarily get funny shit I just get super weird shit

[grand mesa]

mine's food, pretty girls dancing, and funny shit lmao

[surreal heron]

https://www.vxtiktok.com/t/ZT8rX6fUa/

[stray sigil]

[viscid remnant]

Boobie time

[grand mesa]

lmao wtf

[viscid remnant]

Time doing sorcery

Horizontal ticky t

[surreal heron]

3rd slide is the best

[viscid remnant]

Embeded in duscord

[surreal heron]

yeah, adding vx before tiktok fixes it

just like twitter

[late wraith]

I saved this one a while back because why. Why show me this what did I do

[surreal heron]

i think i've seen this one

long time ago

[safe heart]

the ads on twitch are so fucking annoying

[late wraith]

But like what did I do to see this. The voice is amazing though

[surreal heron]

imagine not using an adblocker

[safe heart]

whats a good one thyme

[viscid remnant]

Idk time

Twitch bypasses Adblocker sometimes

Need a few different ones

[surreal heron]

yeah, i find i have to always keep updating

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ttv-lol-pro/bpaoeijjlplfjbagceilcgbkcdjbomjd
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ttv-lol-pro/?utm_source=addons.mozilla.org&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=search

but this one has been working for the past few months

"ttv lol pro"

[late wraith]

Actually nvm my TikTok algorithm is perfect

Look at this little idiot

[surreal heron]

lmao

[safe heart]

it can read and change all my data? lol

[late wraith]

Let it scramble your data a little it’s fine it’s fine

[late wraith]

exactly

[viscid remnant]

Have you heard about our lord and savior ligmattius

[late wraith]

you know i haven't!

would you like to explain it to me?

[viscid remnant]

Ligmattius balls

Gg

[late wraith]

wow

gottem

gottme

[viscid remnant]

@tepid spoke true?

[safe heart]

do you guys ever play 3s with randoms and ppl just apparently have solo shuffle queues running during that and they just take the queue when it pops lmao

[stray sigil]

dps qs are ass i wouldnt even be mad lmfao

[safe heart]

its happened more than once now lol

i guess i get it but like

pretty annoying

[tepid spoke]

Real

[grand mesa]

That’s a great idea

[safe heart]

the dh took his shuffle pop and was faking like he wasnt in one

[late wraith]

lol

like in what way

[safe heart]

we asked if he was in shuffle and he didnt respond so we queued and hes like i took the q

so we kept requeuing and hes like accepting the q

but hes in a shuffle

[late wraith]

lol what a guy

no one would get mad if he was like i waited in this queue for 45 mins i'm taking it

[grand mesa]

Yeah lol

If he’d just owned up to it

Instead of this weird lying lol

Wasting the other two’s time

[late wraith]

the lying is extra funny cause you can see their location

[safe heart]

i said it in group

hes in shuffle you can see hes in mugumbula

and he left the group lol

[grand mesa]

They should add like

Some type of waiting room where u can just frag out or do shit in queue

Lol

[stray sigil]

LMFAO

[stray sigil]

i also wish they would fix

the pvp dummy

so u can actually test stuff

[late wraith]

they should do a pubg style waiting room where you're just in some big bg

brawling

you literally said that

i'm duymb and don't read

[grand mesa]

It’s ok my neither

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

reading's for clowns and nerds

just say stuff it's fine

[grand mesa]

I am known to not be a big tooltip enjoyer. If I can I just press buttons and see what happens lmao

Find out random shit about whatever class I’m playing all the time

[safe heart]

kick destro lock on fire

monka

[stray sigil]

kick immolate first global

[grand mesa]

I think fuji said kicking them on other shit isn’t like the worst. They got a pretty big feedback loop that leads back to bolts idk

[stray sigil]

[safe heart]

i think if you kick them on fire they cant get their bolts rolling

[stray sigil]

kicking fire is kinda bad but its annoying when they kick ur first inmos

[safe heart]

but obv you end up eating the bolt anyway

[stray sigil]

na they can

u need to kick bolt to stop bolt

[grand mesa]

It’s when when u kick the hybrid spell school it locks u out of everything

[stray sigil]

we have 3 schools essentially

[late wraith]

i get in trouble for this shit all the time

[stray sigil]

ye

[late wraith]

"look at the minimap"

no.

[stray sigil]

u kick bolt he cant do anything

[late wraith]

you literally can't make me look there

[stray sigil]

no port nada

[grand mesa]

The sub school kick don’t matter as much

[stray sigil]

u kick fire he can bolt and fear and shit

[grand mesa]

like I’m pretty sure I’d send starsurge sometimes if I was kicked on a heal

[stray sigil]

fire prob the worst one to kick

unless ur a shaman trying to be annoying with immolate uptime

[grand mesa]

Yup

it drove my buddies crazy when we all played dota alot

[late wraith]

lol i'm looking at the game world man i'm IN IT

[stray sigil]

u would just die to everything?

[late wraith]

i also don't know the lore

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

Nah

[late wraith]

and it pisses my friends off bad

[grand mesa]

But I wouldn’t know random shit

That’s right there in tooltip

[stray sigil]

do they have locked screen in dota

that shit exists in league

and it is so bad LOL

[grand mesa]

a what?

[stray sigil]

u have people with no awareness cuz screen locked onto character

[grand mesa]

Oh god I don’t even know

Idk how u can play like that

[stray sigil]

ask my friend

(he is iron)

[late wraith]

don't wanna see what's happening in jungle or whatever. want to know what's happening right in front of me

whatever else is happening is none of my business

[stray sigil]

need to see the little minions die

[tepid spoke]

Lockin screen is good for when you are in tf

[grand mesa]

Is he the hard carry when u guys play

[tepid spoke]

Thats it

[grand mesa]

Look guys I’m gonna farm jungle for 25 min

[stray sigil]

yes

[grand mesa]

I’ll see you soon

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

yeah

Knew it

[stray sigil]

he leaves early in the days

so we win

after he leaves usually

[grand mesa]

I hated situations like that

You’re 4v5ing for 30 minutes and just crying “are u ready yet???”

[stray sigil]

like today bot lane had 17 deaths in 15 mins

[grand mesa]

and usually guys like that farm slow

[stray sigil]

oh u dont like jungle?

[grand mesa]

So when he’s like I’m ready

The other carry is twice as fed

Lmao

[stray sigil]

farming seems a lot easier in leauge than dota

[grand mesa]

Idk how it is now

[stray sigil]

cant u deny on doter 2?

[grand mesa]

But when I played support I spent most of my time dbl and triple stacking for Carrie’s

In the jungle

Yeah u can

What I thought was annoying with league was it was harder to manipulate the lanes

[stray sigil]

u cant rly do it anymore

u used to be able to kinda fuck with minions

dont think u even can now

[grand mesa]

Like I would pull lane back towards my tower sometimes by hitting my mobs when they were hit table (50%) then denying them. Then my carry have safer farm

Then push lane back out so I could stack jungle

[stray sigil]

there was some rly@degen shit at some point cuz of minions manipula

so they kinda just deleted that shit lol

[grand mesa]

u guys have that weird thing

Where u can dbl push waves into tower

If u do it right time

[stray sigil]

ye stacking waves

slow pushing

[tepid spoke]

Dota is a better game in general

[stray sigil]

like u csn deny in leauge

u can freeze

but its not like deny in doter

[grand mesa]

The towers fuck way harder in league I think

I think I remember I tried to dive like I would in dota when I thought it was a good time

Got murdered lmao

[stray sigil]

early its def sketchy

[tepid spoke]

Early they fuck

[stray sigil]

if ur a chunky boy eventually they dont ely matter

[grand mesa]

Like a level 2 or level 3 dive

[tepid spoke]

After its whatever

[stray sigil]

ye no lol

u have to execute that well

cuz 3 shots ur dead

[grand mesa]

I think dota is better game too but man is league popular lol

[stray sigil]

league more accessible

imo

and the movement feels better

for me

[tepid spoke]

Dota looks weird

Aestheticly

Thats it

[stray sigil]

i feel like i have input lag

when i played doter

[tepid spoke]

I played dota 1 for a long time

It was so good

[stray sigil]

u mean

wacraft 3

[tepid spoke]

Yes

[stray sigil]

bis game

[tepid spoke]

Everything was op

But it evened out by everything else being op

Which is kinda fun tbh

[stray sigil]

u could play big daddy arthas

[tepid spoke]

I played the tree

A lot

And evoker

[stray sigil]

whats evoker

u mean jaina?

[tepid spoke]

Kelthas

[stray sigil]

oh shit true

[tepid spoke]

Kaelthas

[stray sigil]

he was kinda dope

blademaster

a classik

[tepid spoke]

It was cool cuz u combined elements for spells

[stray sigil]

real

illidan meta was nice too

[edgy shale]

wrong

[stray sigil]

wheni was 8 that shit was the coolest thing

big black dude

[edgy shale]

u realize

there were literally 2 illidan models r ight

[tepid spoke]

The tree that turned invis when near trees

[edgy shale]

terrobladea nd antimage

[tepid spoke]

And the ulti was mass roots

[edgy shale]

yes tree is the most boring character in the game

[stray sigil]

i dont remember pod

[edgy shale]

gg real

[tepid spoke]

No it was insane

[stray sigil]

could both of them

[edgy shale]

insane-ly boring

[stray sigil]

meta in the black form

[tepid spoke]

U built radiance

[stray sigil]

?

[edgy shale]

radiance on tree is so troll

but based

[tepid spoke]

And the item that reset ulti cd

[edgy shale]

ill allow it

bruh

[stray sigil]

i remember i played blademaster cuz he was freelo

[tepid spoke]

Invis to them

[edgy shale]

u need like

[stray sigil]

easy as fuck to play

[edgy shale]

3 mana items to run refreshers on tree

r u nuts

[stray sigil]

mirror images op

[tepid spoke]

I dont remember what i built

[edgy shale]

thats lit eral wc3 not dota

[stray sigil]

i didnt even build any items

i was a toddler

[tepid spoke]

But i temember radiance and refresher on tree

[stray sigil]

was fun tho

which one is tree

i dont remember

[tepid spoke]

The big ass tree

That looked like the twowrs

Towers

It had a spell

That made u invis

If u walked near trees

[grand mesa]

Radiance tree is such noobshit lmao

[tepid spoke]

I think i built like 4 radiances

[stray sigil]

i actually dont remember the tree

[tepid spoke]

And refresher

[edgy shale]

YES FUJI

CUZ UR TALKING ABOUT WC3

AND WERE TALKING ABOUT DOTA

[stray sigil]

oh

lol

[tepid spoke]

Tree was in wc3 too

[stray sigil]

idk never played doter

[edgy shale]

i mean all the models were

[stray sigil]

wasnt my fav custom mode

i prefer towrr defense

and the uh

[grand mesa]

I never played wc3

[stray sigil]

vampire thing