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I mean I also dont want to argue just to argue, but not sure what I can contribue
Im just a HUGE solo shuffle fan/grinder so I have (mostly) good things to say about it
though there are certianly flaws with how it works
I have 1000+ games played in RSS as Rdruid so I'm not just talking to talk.
I literally feel no difference in healing difficulty from 1600 RSS to 2.1k RSS
Ive played my fair share as well and have my complaints
It seems to be RNG based on how the DPS performs
I've gone 6-0 in 2.1k lobbies and 1-5 in 1800 lobbies
hunters dying when they had turtle (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Or pala dying with bubble still
And no forb
Had a group with a mage who went 0-6 and blocked 0 times. 2k lobby.
The dps are certainly always wildcards, but they do slowly get better as mmr rises... by no means are 2.1k dps all stars though. But geneally they kick and have solid rotational skills
The solo shuff grind reminds me of maplestory.
Im free from maplestory
Totally not going back
Totally
Just feel as rdru can just play the other healer, In most lobbies can just take it to deeper damp than other healers can... unless you have the GIGA rat dps on your team, in which case you gotta go clone to try and rob that 4-2
@haughty garden oh and I didnt agree enough on your earlier point. I dont think 4-2 is NEARLY rewarded enough. A 4-2 at even mmr is worth 24 rating, which is rather sad
and as you get higher mmr the healer mmr gaps present an issue as well. Just get frustrating lobbies, Idk how lontar got in the one from today... but he went 5-1 and lost mmr. How the game even matched him with a healer 300 mmr lower is beyond me
But it is still very possible to climb to 2400 and beyond, just takes a bit more effort than DPS
I think it's just there aren't enough healers in queue
Because the points are messed up
this is the real issue
I healed on rdruid in BFA and I remember thinking the damage output was too high from dps.
Then SL came along and I thought it couldn't get worse.
Enter DF lol
Someone on reddit did an analysis that I only skimmed, but it did make sense. The TLDR was that the healing distribution is about the same as the DPS, there are just way more dps so we dont see as high ratings or as mayn people at high ratings
I'm old school though, I came from the days of the long games and deep dampening. Season 2, mana drains, double healer comps, etc.
I remember Rdruid/Disc/Arms war 3v3 games going for ages
WOTLK
Need a non rating number based system to can obfuscate the healer "mmr" being lower. Like I dont care if my behind the scenes mmr is 2200 or 2400 as long as Im in the "elite" rewards bracket
I played wotlk classic to get me back into wow. Then realized I do not want to play pve to be viable for pvp
and then retail came along
all of shuffles issues can be traced back to not enough healers queueing
not enough healers being degens during daytime my problem
the weird pairing system where healers are matched and the two healers can be in a +- 400 MMR lobby to them is to fix dps queue times
Healers are too responsible IRL
and im pretty convinced they deflate healers so they keep queueing
idk if u recall ben but early DF the system tried to match everyone same MMR
then dps complained about queues over time so they decoupled that
I dont think they are THAT insidious. They did deflate the winstreak mmr gains from s1 that I think had an oustized impact on healers... but I dont think it was intended as malicious
now i'm seeing screenshots of like 150 MMR swings between healers lmao
I dont really mind the -400 mmr dps lobbies, just want my healer mmr gap to be tight
just make healers want to queue then everything kinda fixes itself
the system itself is fine
I almost wonder if they should just remove the healer role requirement and allow triple DPS in RSS.
It would force DPS to play their classes more efficiently and less reckless.
it just needs healer participation for the engine to run smoothly
oh lord no
i think they're def trying to make healer life easier with the interrupt changes and the lower CD on trinket in 10.2
Even if you faced triple DPS as healer/dps/dps your side would have to play a bit smarter.
I think need to load in some QOL addons baseline would help healers
in pvp the gap between healer skill floor and ceiling is too wide
or should lower healing skill gap and move that skill into finding ways to do offensive pressure
tbh i think this is wild but i almost wonder if healers should have 2 trinket charges in shuffle only. just make it less stressful for them so they want to queue. i don't think really conventional and mild changes will get healers to play
I would run 0 versa
not that they would ever
but I think you add some MES cooldown situation into ui baseline
and have some bot training mode
mes WA are garbage
on top of rewards
they dont really give you anything other than fucking gladilossa
ITs just so hard to get INTO healing
its the same thing
without feeling like youre just throwing immediately
round insta over
those are good
heh
Yeah that's what I was basically saying earlier about it being harder to carry as a healer. It's less forgiving.
no, ppl dont understand this
healer is in fact the only role that can carry in shuffle
with some dps exceptions (ret sp aug)
Disagree 1000%
Ok romaer
since healers are usually the only ones that can actually stop you from feeding
Simmer down
@halcyon hawk a FAN
i main healer saying this
I didnt read but simmer down
I main healer too.
ye his auras are good
ye and im telling u
you are the one in control
sometimes you cant do shit sure
Literally making no sense.
Real
i cant do ANYTHING on ele if someone decides to be absolutely horrid
HAHAHHAHA
i can on rsham
Spent a lot of time making it
very kind of you and tea to just give it for free
Gismo just a wizard
Teea sadly quit wow so I had to pick it up
remade it for modern wow with modern win conditions and burst combos
you do solid work gismo
<3
i've always liked how passionate u are about stuff. when ur in ur all in lmao
90% of the complaints from RSS are from healers.
I don't think that's being in control.
Maybe you're just special
The problem is that
After 2.1 mmr its cancer
Cuz u can lose mmr from winning 5
But until 2.1 its fine
I mean move is just to never let que go past 3 min
after that youre just asking for trouble mmr gap wise
Idk I can get 2100 on healers in an absolute minimum amount of games
was I your LG
No
Good woulda made me sad
Took me 50 rounds on hpal for 2200
With no MMR from last season
It just becomes tedious after
So it's not really fun
And some healers are just horrid to play in shuffle by design
Disc and rsham
I think raiw frustrations arent the initial climb. Its one youre playing around your "true" mmr it feels very difficult to have a major impact
Well that's on you then isn't it ?
usually have to step back and make some kinda gameplay breakthrough
I mean its shuffle
isnt it always
Without trying to be a smartass
over the multi-game sense
liek you said becomes tedious, either que issues wise, game impact etc
That doesn't change the fact that healers are the ones that gold the reigns
In shuffle
Romser, you're using anecdotal evidence that healers are in control. Maybe you're just that good, I don't know you, but the VAST majority of complaints about RSS are from healers, at all MMR.
It is broken for most healers.
To deny that is disingenious.
I mean absterge (though it is absterge) went 0-2400 in sub 100 rounds
idk in my experience healers will always complain lol
and puzz probs right about that one too
Exceptions to the rule are not the rule though
He's top level
For sure xD
For the 35-40 year old with a full time job trying to be competitive in arena, it's a bit different.
I nolife stuff when I get an idea I stay with it untill it works
at the end of the day healers designed to lose. that's just the game end condition in arena. if healers had their way and collectively across all brackets were vibing and having a ton of fun no one else would imo
my thought on shuffle healing is it becomes painful once you reach your mmr range. I know I can RAPIDLY make gains up to my true mmr, and then feel many of the same things you are. But up to that point im zooming
you're there so the others can shine
if u do ur job right
its rewarding if u play with great positive individuals who appreciate ur work
not so much if not
XD
Healing feels pointless then
shuffle... Example 1
A good healer can have a big impact ofc. But the main idea is to help others do good
I’ve noticed that when I win the first few rounds and DPS are cool enough yo make comments like “we have the good healer!”.. I usually inadvertently throw the next couple 😛
xD

happens
i accidentally queued shuffle black out drunk and woke up to see 0-6 the next morning

XD
for my weekly
Perfect evening.
Nice
At least it wasnt 0-12?
I'm done with RSS anyway so it's kind of pointless thing for me to stay disgruntled lol
Focusing 3v3 now and trying to hit 2.2 for The Arena Master
Started it in WOTLK and want to finish it
I will absolutely take anecdotal takes from someone reasonable (not romser) over forum, twitter and reddit whining
🤷♂️
same weekly this week ez spark
Hahahahahah
Shitty
It’s ok I got a new passion project
I see this cheesy ele build I wanna try 🤣
On alt
Like ultimately it's a team game still and nobody can literally solo carry a lobby. I think 6-0ing as DPS is far more common than as healer, but also 0-6ing is too. Healers feel like you can do a lot more to stay afloat but it's definitely harder to stomp.
As much as I whine about 3-3 spam in the past
When 1 DPS goes 6-0, the other 3 all lose 2-4
It's not really any better
I'd rather be the 3-3 spam healer
Hits 2400 in shuffle, suddenly everything is fine. Classic
I will like it

Dh Main +baf
Bad
What play style do you guys have in RSS and 3v3 as Rdruid?
Stay back and PVE heal?
Aggressive going for clones
A combination?
Yes
I know it depends on the lobby, but overall
If you watch me play you'd think I'm fistweaver
Like a Markers style?
I just crank big hps for the first minute, and after first round of cooldowns I start trying to play a lil aggro
markers is trash

A lot of cloning and eating damage banking on verdancy so my team can free ca st
@grand mesa problem?
I've picked up some cool tricks from him
He's full time smurfing, you can def learn some stuff but not someone I'd recommend for someone trying to learn resto
Notably one thing I use now is cloning someone and then swiping the clone to build combo points
To have a full maim ready
Tbh just dont play cat stuff in shuffle
You go down the Boomkin side for the range?
Both
neither
The thing healers complain about is that there is just less healer matches played
That's literally it
This is crazy talk
Boomie form but no range is crazy
I remember this from last season
Real
POTP is garbanzo beans
For rdruid
Rdru hpal sssssss
The truth it took me longer to accept too
Is that healers are the most carried role
In this game
Any content
You have to keep making healing easier
Ye cause it's low skill expression
So the bads will go healer
It's not hard at all
I can't take you serious at all
Hes spittin
I heal turbo
should be playing this
never rly played caster cleave
Ye that's a bit harder
Should try it. Shadowplay biggest vibe as rdruid
I think this is more reasonable
Like idk healers just have to not look at their bars
That I can agree with. I'm working on that myself.
I find it hard not to when the damage comes in so fast
Most healers can't get rating as DPS and a lot of DPS players can get rating as healers
DH brain work so good
I didn’t know face was dh main
I should just rebind moonkin for to bear form. Really only reason I was playing it was to avoid sheeps was habit to go moon
Ye there is no inconsistency there
Explains a lot tbh
but if I rebind bear dont need it
Maybe you don't get it
I dont, your brain is too enlarged
It's simple really
You are the one with the biggest carry potential in shuffle
But that doesn't stop you from being carried
OK sorry
f2f kneel to romserestro
Not my fault there is grease in your brain
I cast like two moonfires per game max. Its just to do smoething when were at 65% damp and NEED to end it now
Most beta statement ever.
Sometimes you just need to concede defeat
To a superior mind
Nothing I can do about it, just like when the aff lock doing 120k dps on enemy team does 50k on mine
holy shit if thats the deep cut that I think it is
There is nothing I do more
Than keeping him aggressive
I literally life grip people behind the enemy's pillar so they can keep attacking
I'm in the trenches
That's too far
I'm the most melee brain pilled healer you'll ever see in your life
This guy probably grips affli on triple life drain
It's ok I play grip absorb talent
Yep
Yeah I fucking hate it
If it's good on blades edge
You run in
And grip your team
On top of wnemy healer
Ok yeah @stray sigil I think this is legit
blud u are crying about shuffle
nothing else i can say
Idk if I can drop void elf tho
I'm having a conversation about a game mode. Hardly crying.
You're fanboying another man's dominance. We are not the same.
He got you there David
I think whats happening here is the proc chance of one doesnt go thru when the other is up, so it just gets 'banked up' like you went >20s without procing it, gotta proc it soon
So this means sometimes you get 1.2k int sometimes you get 1k int
But it's ok
You playing double insignia ?
It's good for human
I might on spr tho
And probably flourish
And maybe into certain full melee lobbies
But idk if I go human I like velf too much
I think I can still get away with no trinket as spr
Wrong
Nev trinket swap
Dont even play swap
Play the garbage mindbender heal talent

face has no swap bound real
Also this has gotta be a lie
Or you just pay no attention at all to me
whgen i tested im pretty sure i saw
Which is very hurtful
procs refreshing each other
i had one 5 minute dummy thing where uptime was horrible with dbl trinket
but generally it looked like it was just alternating
the RPPM building up on one while the other is going
@wild anchor rate the drip
Im coming back to game after last xpac is it still pretty easy to pvp gear?
Gucci
Ty means a lot to me
real

do i go hooman face
do i do it
Skipping leg day?
what is romser doing in here
that dude is looking 200p better
Looking for me
dont call my name dont call my name
he was chasing after steezo
alejandro
but he came too late
You know that doesnt mean what you think it means

Replying to what I said
ik im aware
sus
i just wanted to call u a gbome


gei
they have big cocks
for sure
man i wanna post the emote @tepid spoke
is time asleep


ITS BLURRED TIME
Holy smokes
Jesus.

real
who
algum br
face, ur people bailed on my boost halfway and left me stranded in azure span @ level 66
so u say ur people in dg?
they refunded me the diff tho
Random br comments on youtube give me life
LOL
HAHAHAHA
taco isnt a bad word
ERL
?
RALERLAEERAL
Puzzle is a bitch
?
?
For real
LEARLQA
Doesnt matter if bad word
real
He's fake
brazilians dont even eat tacos
Behind your back he say one thing

legit fake mexicans

he also told me in dms ur gei
Wtf you mean I eat tacos everyday of my life
but i tell u that u are gei
i actually hate tacos
so wheres the problem
Is it worth running thorns
I dont even wanna know what puzzle actually says about me
dg=china
When I'm not looking
nothing but good things
Some matchups. WW feral and rogue take a lot from it.
this is like when u find out ur dad is not ur dad and hes just the corner homeless man

he calls u a sussy wussy submissive breedable femboy @clear pulsar
Yeah this is puzzle
real
since theyre kinda incentivized to just tunnel

on allah he said that
on pokis hijab i am not lying
wallahi
wallahi
Puzzle actually prays to God every single day that I dont ask to join the quarantine discord and read what he says about me

i asked him already when i first decided to quarantine fuji
He would never say no to my face
he declined
He only ever says yes to me
on pokimanes hijab u are lying
Would only say no behind my back

i think he said something along the lines of
i'll never voluntarily join another discord with pod




wrong
Real fuk pod
Nappy boy 92/
wrong
mood
All time television moment
matty but unironically
real

No more Steezo
Unlucky. He went too schizo
i saw
hes losing it
ww3
etc
poor guy
thankfully i never bullied him
if he kills himself
i still can't tell if he's serious or trolling

if trolling it's masterful
if serious i'm worried
David should be worried
I think he was genuine tbh
If he lives where I think he does, then he has a support system in place. I think he’s fine
Someone helped him get benefits
wym laser privilage
u r jew
i mean ye
low iq

hopefully he has someone following up on him
i think there's alot of that nowadays
Whose basement do you think he lives in?
how
most ppl do in fact have to work


Hey guys quick question about Boomie in PVP. If you get trained by two melees, is it better to try and cyclone (whilst baiting a kick of course), or to try and just kite away?
run
youre getting trained bro? 
Ofc he has Ligma and they want it
run and clone when u cant run

but mos of the time run
idk maybe over there in EU its different but i get the sense there's brrn more basement dwelling nutjobs over time
Awesome thanks @tepid spoke
just social media distorting reality
you see more of them
i mean its not enviable those ppl need help
well i just think it's harder for 20somethings or even 30 somethings to do well lately with rising costs and rent/home ownership kinda nuts
i mean there is a difference between having to living with others (while having a job) than just not having a job ever
at that age
but ye ownership in general is down
100%
yeah i think that is fair distinction
US isn't even that bad compared to others
i live in a small town (< 10k people) and shit's just expensive as fuck, canada
yeah it's nuts rn. i got lucky and wife convinced me to do it right before interest rates skyrockted
i saw a graph on twitter with canada housing market it looks insane
They also don’t allow fixed rates past like 5 years or something?
I also got lucky and got mine in 2017. The market now is gross
haha imagine owning a house/apartment
out of curiosity i checked my mortgage payment if i had todays' interest rate
wishful thinking

true ?
some day
surely it goes back to something more reasonable eventually

even before interests rose here even a small 30 square meter apartment is like 140k in my area haha
it's prob going to be "the" topic for next elections, lots of things could help but no one wants to step up and do what needs to be done
not that whoever wins will change anything, just how it is
atleast stateside i just think they should bar or restrict big investment funds from being able to buy single unit homes en masse for rental
and interst rate is a whole separate thing
Vancouver costs more to buy a house than LA/SF and the base income is substantially lower it doesn’t make any sense. My sisters are both up there, I was looking for a bit to move back and absolutely not.
I thought there was movement on that? Maybe just in California
nobodys buying anything here anymore and building construction is frozen
mass recession inc
Yeah it’s absolutely insane.
man wish I was an adult in the 90s
true you'd be free from wow
my friends parents bought their place for like 150k or something and sold for half a mill kek
I'm not an expert but I know for example in B.C. there are lots of foreign investors owning most of the housing, and frmo what I heard Canada almost is an open house immigration-wise, definitely a hard thing to balance. There is just more demand than supply
But our generation just doesn’t work hard enough or whatever
yep
no player housing in wow either
Not enough retrofit buildings
we're all truly doomed
my grand pa paid 30k for this house and its worth 1m now
and its not a big house or anything
when they add it it will 100% not be as shitty as XIV's I hope lol
dumb lottery system
There are townhouses near where my sister lives in southern bc that are going for 1.5 million right now. Not even Vancouver.
the idea of SWG-esque player cities sounds dope
not even a house actually
Little single family townhouses. Like those were starter homes when we were kids
its a triplx or w.e its called
No lawn or anything
we are in a like good spot close to train and schools
i like my townhouse
yeah i wouldn't pay 1.5 for a townhouse
all on a row with connected walls
it's like single unit homes just the units are connected by a wall
i got a driveway garage backyard front yard
but instead of the house over being 12 feet away it's connected
I thought you lived in some mansion
nah i don't see a point to big houses where u have so many rooms u never use
Fkin hate boomers fr
Legit
yea I guess
big thing is i like that the HOA takes care of everything outdoors lol
i don't mow or shovel
lmao
Yeah they’re a good choice especially for a small family it’s just 1.5 million in a suburb is unreal. They go for that much in major cities and historically have, nyc brownstones are townhouses but she’s just in a suburb
why do u not have hoodie also
i wouldnt be working if david owns the world
ud still be bald
I have more hair than you have ever had

do i win my next match of cs?
He speaks french
i am 2/2 for the day
We'll win together brother
wrong u lose
idk im 36
u tell me
ill be 30 in dec
funny way of saying 42
I'm not gonna play with cyon I'll just boot up the game and q up too
Nothing personnel kid
Just not trying to play cs with wow ping
personnel
anything above 30 for cs is :(
Ok we in overpass
i sit around 5-45 and it feels okay
u r bald
Faces yes
im watching clips of my glory days 8 years ago lmao
Theres chance for me then
nop
Yes bitch

CAP
post in my disc
we are winning 10-9 rn
More like your glory hole




idk what makes me more sad watching 8 year old clips
that i was pretty good at shooters
or i had hair
🤔

punished for being a pver
real
surely
real
I'm actually
Playing so safe
Literally 40yd healing
And winning
With 2.7k dps

would u look at that
It's so funny looking
I'm changed
Shuffle broke me finally
My play has no personality anymore
Lontar says just heal
if ur curious about last thing i said about u in quarantine
I mean it’s enabled by treants you know. I don’t think win condition was to afk heal beforehand
I thought rdruid gameplay has always been afk heal
Yes
I was more interested in just blasting than winning
Puzzle on some cope
real
yes but when the healing is bad you have to do more to win
What puzzle is saying is it o nly works when druid is strong
Before treants we were bottom feeders
Fair
Have to make something happen

Now we just
fake and edited
thats kinda why i don't like rdruid design tbh
idk if every healer should have aggro cc identity but i think oppressively passive 45 yard afk heal doing nothing isn't great fundamentally
Ok I said I was afk heal
That was 1 round
I still was way more active than the hpal
I rooted him tf out so hard
Nah not that much
Hunter didnt play pet
The pala hit 2 blinding lights on mage water elemental tho
bro is fr
I cast 1.2 hexes per lobby
yes
When dps are fighting on the ramps in nokuhad do you afk out of the lobby or what do
yes
Yes
legit
man this boost is so delayed im gonna have to remote into my phone and move my character so i don't get afk'd out
The mogs are cool tho
idk what it is but recently my games have felt miserable
its like 3 melee and they just run at me and i cant win
past 3 shuffs i went 3-3 and gained no rating
As ele?
Are you at personal highest mmr?
Are you nervous
are you bald


If it’s the lyrics I’m thinking of isn’t it “do you ever get nervous”


Brother you are so lucky I'm not a mod
You'd be permad in 7 dif accounts that you dont even have
brainwashed
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I am rooted
Trying to gain some favor after I found out you keep trashing me behind my back smh
Shaking my damn smh
ofc
I don’t deny her impact I just think her music isn’t amazing as folks think
because he doesnt hate taylor swift
But they’re good listens regardless
I have another friend who is very into tswift also
Is Warcraft rumble co op
Will we be playing together whilst waiting for shuffle queues
Idk depends on how quick the rumble games are
is it p2w tho
Heard it’s really not but who knows they bait and switch that a lot
3v3 with somebody I like when?

REAL
Real
yo
Hi lakez
Say Wallahi
no i hit 1950
and dropped to 1850
now im just sitting at 1850 the past 3 games going 3-3


can u sit on the toilet today
yes

you guys love wow
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