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clear pulsar
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Lack of skill

clear fox
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Haven’t seen any bugs lately, it just doesn’t work as well as we would hope

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Shamans just talent greater purge and ignore it lol

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Evoker does get silenced/rooted

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Arcane mages can’t go full klepto

clear fox
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And priests just stop for a few seconds between mashing purge

clear pulsar
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What do you think it does that it isn't doing?

clear fox
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I guess that was the better question

glass sequoia
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but I did not know that you just had to wait a few sec

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to not get silence

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is it worth taking then ?

clear fox
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They have to slam 3 purges in 6 seconds or whatever to get silenced

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Then gets reset

clear pulsar
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Yeah so like the slow is removable by the regular stuff that removes movement impairment, further than that, shamans taking greater purge have a 10s cd on it anyways so they'll never get silenced.

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Priests will never get silenced if they can use fade to remove the slow

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Monks, hunters, paladins can freedom

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Their healers that is

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It's only good against evoker

clear fox
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God damn that’s even worse than I thought

clear fox
clear pulsar
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Cuz they proc it all at once with the fire breath (now works as intended)

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Other than against evoker, not worth taking no

glass sequoia
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ok, so how do you deal with purges as resto ?

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thanks btw

clear pulsar
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You kinda dont

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Prio reapplying lifebloom first

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You have to create pressure so the enemy healer isnt able to afford purging

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Or peel the enemy DPS with cyclone/root/vortex, etc

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Thats it, nothing to do with interacting with the purges, just stopping damage or stopping the purges from being cast in the first place

exotic wolf
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yep, that's how rdruids have handled purges mostly

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if you pressure enough so they can't purge is the best scenario for you

grand mesa
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Face why don’t we game together

livid wasp
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shuffle or not?

clear pulsar
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The glorious return

clear fox
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Wait puzzle is back ?

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Or y’all doing like other gaming

viscid remnant
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probably baldy's gate

tepid spoke
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Happy happy happyyyyy

tepid spoke
grand mesa
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There’s just so much good gaming rn

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baldpraise gate. Poe in a few days. I’m looking at this Wayfinder mmo or mmo life coming out soon

tepid spoke
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ull be back in wow in a month

clear pulsar
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He's been gone for a few months

tepid spoke
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thanks for the info

safe heart
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I want a refund on d4

viscid remnant
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real and same

safe heart
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Got to level 47
Seen enough

clear pulsar
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Dreamgrove cant provide but try a ticket at battle.net

wanton ridge
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How many hours did you play in D4 so far

safe heart
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I probably played for like 20 hours total

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Between beta and release

livid wasp
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70 bucks and 20 hours

viscid remnant
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i think i got to 1euro an hr

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not the worst

livid wasp
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I want at least 100 hours if I pay that much

viscid remnant
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ye

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can play more next season

livid wasp
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I should play witcher 3 some day

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I got it as present years ago and havent tried it kek

tiny oar
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its rly nice game

grand mesa
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Ah the normal pfp lakez 🤗

grand mesa
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I think wow broke my brain and I can’t enjoy normal video games no mo

viscid remnant
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POE LOG IN

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WEDNESDAY TOMORROW

wanton ridge
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I bought the witcher 3 twice, on steam and on switch, maybe played 2 hours max :x Def want to get into it, I also got elden ring when ti came out and barely touched it

clear pulsar
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Thats interesting

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Elden ring and the witcher 3 are very different as far as their strengths

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Kinda opposites really

safe heart
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You can tell because of the way they is

viscid remnant
wanton ridge
viscid remnant
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@clear pulsar

livid wasp
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I had a lot of fun with no mans sky at some point, maybe I should try it again

grand mesa
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NMS was so boring

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Fly to new planet pick flowers

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I did it with VR too lol

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I will try Witcher 3 again eventually. Too much good gaming rn tho

livid wasp
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did you play nms when it came out

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its gotten a ton of updates

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it was a flop when it came out

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but they recovered

grand mesa
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I played it around uhh 2018 or so.

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When the quest II or whatever first came out

livid wasp
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I played it waiting for bfa release

clear pulsar
grand mesa
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Ya

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Maybe I revisit they’ve added a lot more since then

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And play properly no VR

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VR was really cool but I was fighting the quirks more than playing game

ionic sierra
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thorns worth taking against a melee + a bm hunter? for pets?

safe heart
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Sure sounds fun

ionic sierra
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how do i write a macro for HotW to go into bear form by pressing button again? /cast Bear Form (Shapeshift) not working

tropic schooner
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can you try to describe it a bit better?

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also hotw is off gcd yea?

clear pulsar
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No its on gcd

ionic sierra
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like i just want to press hotw to acrivate it, and then press it again to go into bear form

tropic schooner
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dont

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if its on gcd

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just press your bear button

ionic sierra
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ah

tropic schooner
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dont do castsequecnes

ionic sierra
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yeah no thats not what i was thinkin

tropic schooner
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thats literally the only option

ionic sierra
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like on war, i have a macro thats hamstring and charge same button. thats what i was thinkin

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ye ill just deal with it then lolz

tropic schooner
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charge isnt on gcd

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thats why it works

ionic sierra
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yee

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do yall use innervate in SS? i feeel like it doesnt get use because rounds dont last that long unless aug

grand mesa
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@clear pulsar

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Lmao

safe heart
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Why didn't they nerf feral healing

tepid spoke
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hi voulk told me to take it here

livid wasp
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thats what I want to see

grand mesa
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I just checked resto

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Trees off gcd any form healing is gonna be goated matty

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Unless the numbers are that tragic

tepid spoke
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yea i just like to argue

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i dont even playu nourusih

grand mesa
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Yeah I like nourish but plenty of people play without it successfully

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In fact I think most of the big boys don’t take it lol

tepid spoke
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i want pvp content

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that i can do with my shit friends

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or more than 2

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6v6 rbg

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someone gave that idea

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would be goated tbh

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i have like 5-6 friends i play with all the time but 3v3 doesnt cut it

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cause if u play 3v3 2 or 3 of those friends cant play

grand mesa
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I think rbg due for a revamp

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And solo shuffle

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Added

safe heart
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Solo shuffle: removed

tepid spoke
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solo q rbg would be cool

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or idk if solo q but like

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flex queue

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be on a party with 3 friends send q

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game fills u with the other ppl

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keep it low amount of ppl

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kinda the same as random bg

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but rated lOL

tropic schooner
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6v6 AND rbg

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would be even more dead

tepid spoke
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idk i see a lot of wotlkers do 5v5

tropic schooner
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10 games

safe heart
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Solo q rbgs
When random bgs exist

tropic schooner
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cause its the most points

safe heart
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It's like ppl wanting shuffle when skirms already existed.

tropic schooner
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1500 5v5 gives more points then 2.2k 2s

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literally only reason people play 10 games

tepid spoke
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and competitiveness

safe heart
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Just add the rewards to 2v2 and 3v3 , remove game types with no rewards

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Why aren't random bgs competitive

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Or skirms

tepid spoke
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Cause theres no rating associated

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or anything that says you are good at it

safe heart
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We had a whole thing yesterday about how being good relative to other players doesn't matter just play for fun tho

tepid spoke
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do people play league for fun

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or to show off their rank

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even my piss shit bronze friends play ranked to get out of bronze

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why

safe heart
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Imagine showing off ur rank but there's someone alittle higher than you calling it mordor

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Skirms are the path to enlightenment

tropic schooner
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I wanna see myself improve

fair mirage
tepid spoke
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any content that has no rewards to me is wastedtime

fair mirage
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Can't just slap rating on it.

tropic schooner
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doesnt matter if others consider it good

tepid spoke
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and wow in general is a waste of time

safe heart
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Just keep a tally of how many skirms you win

fair mirage
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Yeah, I play with somebody who is like 99% wr in skirms and bgs or something.

safe heart
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You can even do fun stuff like giv yourself bonus points for winning 1v2s

tropic schooner
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im lazy

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bonus points are shit

safe heart
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It's literally just 3v3 skirms with rating

fair mirage
safe heart
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It's even easier with rbg cuz you don't even have to shuffle it

fair mirage
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That's six rounds with people shuffled around.

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Absolutely not just a rando 1 off skirm

safe heart
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Yeah way more complicated than slapping rating on rbgs

fair mirage
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BGs suffer from premades and bad compos cos no shuffle

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idk how they would fix that

safe heart
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Can't pre-made in solo q

tropic schooner
safe heart
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Obv

tropic schooner
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the reason they did it for arena/shuffle is cause games are very short

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so youd be annoyed with long queue and 1 min game

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bgs are not that short

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so you wouldnt need any structuring

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personally I dont think its a great idea, but I also dont think its complicated

fair mirage
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Slap rating on bg and every game is just gg they got more druids go next

safe heart
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I mean

tropic schooner
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why druids?

fair mirage
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Even blizz not cooked enough to try that

tropic schooner
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but sure you will have stronger classes/specs

safe heart
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What happens when you get an rdruid vs rsham and you lose cuz purge

fair mirage
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I mean imagine they try to match tanks

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one team gets bear, other gets prot warr

tropic schooner
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sure

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so?

safe heart
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The whole point is you didn't wanna use lfg so suffer

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That's why shuffle exists

fair mirage
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Yeah, so why even ship the mode

safe heart
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"Here's ur rng teammates get fkd"

fair mirage
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I could see a smaller scale bg thing being good, though

tepid spoke
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cause prot warrs wont climb

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bears will climb

tropic schooner
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yep

safe heart
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I agree shuffle: removed

tepid spoke
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thats only an issue for mordor mmr

tropic schooner
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even low mmr its a none issue

safe heart
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What's mordor cr

tropic schooner
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because of skill difference

tepid spoke
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if you solo q rbg at decent mmr u will not see prot wars anymore

tropic schooner
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only first few will be

safe heart
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Could be 2.6k

tropic schooner
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sure "similar skilled" bear and warrior wouldnt be same CR

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because of power level

fair mirage
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Rando trashcan comp mode doesn't work in 10v10 format where no shufflin

tropic schooner
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so if the war is same mmr/cr as the bear they will win a similar amount of games

fair mirage
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too much frustration feels too coinflippy

tepid spoke
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yes so dont make it 10v10

tropic schooner
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as I said I dont think its a good idea

fair mirage
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Yeah like I said

tropic schooner
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but I dont think matchmaking or rating is any issue at all

tepid spoke
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I dont think 20 player instances have a sp ace in this game anymore

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its old outdated content

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from when people like 40 man raids because of fantasy

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in 2006

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even 20 man raids suck

tropic schooner
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you have some absolute garbage takes

tepid spoke
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you like 20 man raids

grand mesa
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I actually despise 20 man raiding tbh

tepid spoke
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same

grand mesa
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I think 10 is better personally

tepid spoke
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its always 5 people u need to deadweight carry

grand mesa
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Ignoring the usual arguments people make about class buffs

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And required spots

tepid spoke
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its dev laziness thats all there is

grand mesa
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Idk about laziness

tepid spoke
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it worked in cata throughout mop

grand mesa
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I just think that larger scale raiding has always been wows thing

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And they’re good at it and people like it

tepid spoke
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make flex raiding

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mythic

grand mesa
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But it’s no secret that newer MMOs do not follow the same model lol

tepid spoke
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10-20

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BuT u WiLl HaVe BoSseS HaRdEr At X AMOunt of PlayeRs

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so develop ur game correctly

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so that doesnt happen

grand mesa
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I honestly would love a proper flex mythic

tropic schooner
grand mesa
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Half the angst comes from needing a roster of 22-26 to consistently field 20. And 20 is such a huge number your best player in raid and your worst could be a big diff

tepid spoke
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imsure its very possible

tropic schooner
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It absolutely isn't what

safe heart
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Raiding is a bad game mode

grand mesa
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idk 10-20 flex is a big diff

tepid spoke
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what bosses this tier would be easier in a 10 man

tropic schooner
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I don't think it would be good, but I understand arguments for flex raiding

tepid spoke
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maybe neltharion

safe heart
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3v3 and mythic is the only thing that makes wow worth playing

tepid spoke
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make hearts 2x the size in 10man

tropic schooner
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But there absolutely is 0 chance that it has consistent difficulty regardless of number of players

grand mesa
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like depending on how many players there are 3 of the soak circles may go out instead of 5

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Etc

tepid spoke
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that was like that in cata

grand mesa
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Wasn’t that the problem with 10 vs. 25 in the past

tropic schooner
grand mesa
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Some fights would be impossible in 10 but insanely easy at 25

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Etc

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And the other way around

tepid spoke
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yes so develop them better

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im sure its possible

tropic schooner
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It isnt

grand mesa
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Like 10-12. Or 18-20

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Atleast so you could actually play your bench consistently or if someone misses it’s not catastrophic

tropic schooner
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That's more reasonable but to me that is not worth the insane extra effort for such a minor change

grand mesa
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Like my ideal is it goes down to 10 can flex to 12

tropic schooner
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Including the fact that most groups will use the optimal number of raiders at least in higher progress guilds

grand mesa
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In M raiding

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Yeah they will. But like. Fuck em lmao

tepid spoke
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who cares

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ahbout those guilds

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lmao

grand mesa
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I think mythic participation has been going down a lot in general

tepid spoke
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literally 0.01% of population

tropic schooner
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Also it will likely be a lot harder to field mythic teams

grand mesa
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And just guessing but I suspect it’s on the lower end

tropic schooner
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Because the percentage of tanks goes way up

tepid spoke
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yeah a 20 man needing 2 tanks is kinda stupid

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tbh

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should be 4

grand mesa
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tepid spoke
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10 man 2 tanks 20 man 2 tanks

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how does that make sense

tropic schooner
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Because tanks is unpopular and increasing needed number would be death sentance for loads of guilds

safe heart
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It'd be funny tho

grand mesa
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I think part of that is due to tanks also being a thankless and kinda boring

safe heart
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I would never thank a tank

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I'll log out

tepid spoke
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they made a better job this raid

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with tanks

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even if they are simple mechanics

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its more than taunt now

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break walls, go down with tank debuff, move the boss strategically to activate traps, disarm bombs

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when most of the time its taunt for x debuff at 2 stacks

safe heart
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And they wonder why no one thanks them

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A bot could do their job just fine

wanton ridge
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Experiments/Rashok/Zskarn/Nelth/Sark are all good tank fights this tier, rest are still just "taunt when <ability> happens"

grand mesa
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So half of them

wanton ridge
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Hey I had to learn how the walls worked, big and small rocks :D for p1 breaks

ionic sierra
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been waiting in queue for like a total of 2 hours just to play 3 games. each one had a healer that rage quited by 3rd or 4th round. 0 cr gained. awesome game

safe heart
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No trust me guys shuffle is bis

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We love it

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It's the best thing for casuals and streamers

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Worst for the rest

viscid remnant
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Ye byt it makes ppl

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Mental kaboom

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Look at drainer

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Kek

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Lontar also fried af

fair mirage
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Like, sometimes an hpal is just gonna 6-0 a disc so the disc realizes this and dips.

ionic sierra
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well, my experience has been the healer throwing a bitch fit before doing it

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and just trying to spite the lobby

fair mirage
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I asked a healer if they were sure about playing adapt into sub and they afk'd the rest of the lobby.

ionic sierra
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yeah im learning u literally cant say anything to anyone in ss

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either u get banned/muted

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or they throw

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volatile ass beta males that cant take criticism

fair mirage
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Yeah, healers in particular are like actually hair trigger. Just try best and go next.

safe heart
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yeah if anyone talks to me in shuffle ill throw the round right there

fair mirage
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Healer tells DH to trinket blur opener and they just insta nether trinket blur dark in the room.

safe heart
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as he should

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i dont want the bots telling me what to do

fair mirage
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Hado two stub rogues afk because I used a stun.

rigid linden
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moonguard is fun

clear pulsar
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Make no mistake

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I can win next game before they find another game

grand mesa
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hey face i haven't really seen u in wow lately whatsup

clear pulsar
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Sub rogues in shuffle are the worst bro

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They go mental breakdown cant deal with another spec having a stun

clear pulsar
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You're old news bro

fair mirage
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Oh, well. Mordor and one of them had like 500 games played.

clear pulsar
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Yeah its so funny

grand mesa
viscid remnant
clear fox
viscid remnant
fair mirage
clear fox
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Oh no need I believe you

fair mirage
clear fox
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Just something about shuffle makes people tilt beyond belief

fair mirage
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I can understand tilting; the mode is almost designed to tilt people.

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Guy dies opener with you, plays well after that. You know, because it was his first/warmup round. Annoying.

clear fox
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I’ve def just insta lost rounds

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But then again when I legit get 92-0 in 1.8 seconds

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It just kinda happens sometimes

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Probs shoulda respected serenity & true shot more idk

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But can only prehot so much

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But that sent the dh on my team over the edge

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Said if I don’t afk was going to get his whole guild to report me

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Said go for it bud and reported him

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Man logged into 3 alts in series to continue to trash talk after the match

fair mirage
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Lmao.

viscid remnant
clear fox
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But every actual ‘big’ name seems to say nothing at all

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Mvqdh back to back 1-5s complete silence

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Really is the play

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Either say nothing or be positive

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Also just feel wack being in those lobbies, where the awc tier healers. I don’t need to be in those games

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Seems just lontar grinding in Europe

viscid remnant
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Because theres no reason to type

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If u give tips after a loss they use it against u

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If u are negative u get banned

clear fox
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Facts

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So far avoided chat ban

grand mesa
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it's really easy to avoid the chat ban

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just don't say anything

viscid remnant
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Ye just dont type

clear fox
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I just don’t type

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Unless you whisper me

grand mesa
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when people flame and i type anything at all it's lol or ok

clear fox
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In which case I try and push them deeper off the edge

grand mesa
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i don't ever respond to whispers

clear fox
grand mesa
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nah not worth the energy to me

safe heart
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if someone even typed lol

clear fox
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I guess 90% I don’t respond

fair mirage
safe heart
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id throw the next 4 rounds

clear fox
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Guess the 10% is me tilting

fair mirage
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So at the end all you can really do is say mb or ask who they prefer to target primarily

clear fox
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How dps Que times these days anyhow?

fair mirage
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Mine are usually pretty short but I play two snowflake specs.

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Usually like 5-15, often instant. From time to time it'll be 20+

grand mesa
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i just looked for my most recent clip from when i played wow

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dam this one was p good lol

fair mirage
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Kind of crekked.

grand mesa
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makes me kinda miss wow ngl lol

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melding shit was fun. and i miss necroshield

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give it back

exotic wolf
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necroshield was dope

viscid remnant
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Gm apapa

exotic wolf
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but stupid system to give cool, fun stuff. then take it away

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gm

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hope you all good today

viscid remnant
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Chillin so far

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Breakfast soon

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Godtier oats

exotic wolf
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noice

tiny oar
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nice

exotic wolf
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gm lake

tiny oar
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hi ronny

clear pulsar
tiny oar
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bro

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just dont say anything

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or if u want to say sumthing bad just whisper me instead

exotic wolf
viscid remnant
surreal heron
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having never been chat banned in a video game, i can it's very easy

exotic wolf
# tiny oar hi ronny

always forget that if u check the profile your overall nickname is shown and not the server one

exotic wolf
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holy shit

viscid remnant
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Never banned from chat in videogame

exotic wolf
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sometimes I want to call upon the wrath of all gods to punish a stupid internet random

clear pulsar
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He just doesnt play games he needs to talk to people

surreal heron
viscid remnant
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But banned from a couple@of discords for being a silly boy

clear pulsar
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Man quit wow 7 years ago talking bout how easy it is to not call a DH a little something

clear pulsar
viscid remnant
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I got banned in the lock discord for posting 1 singular zyzz gif

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It wasnt even toxic

clear pulsar
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Not that I would get banned ofc not I would never get banned in my life

surreal heron
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3500+ hours in TF2, lots of OW, battlefields throughout history, OSRS

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never chat banned

viscid remnant
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Just the normal one iirc

clear pulsar
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That game might have the most toxic community I ever saw in my life

exotic wolf
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doctors hate Thyme

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this one little secret

viscid remnant
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Oh i was banned in mage discord

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I speedran a ban

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Just for fun

wild moon
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I have low iq, can I 2100 ss boomie post nerf?

clear pulsar
tiny oar
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my iq is not good and I got glad one time believe in ur dreams silv

broken junco
viscid remnant
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Man iam bing chillin fr

tiny oar
surreal heron
broken junco
tiny oar
wild moon
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wow ty al, much love

viscid remnant
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These headphones r making it fun to work fr

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Can listen to music wihtout cancer background noises

exotic wolf
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need to stop up my workplace headset game too

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when my coworkers is back from vacation I hit him up and ask if he orders the good stuff

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need to figure out what I really want until monday

tiny oar
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IM JUST KEN

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WHERE I SEE LOVE SHE SEES A FRIEND

viscid remnant
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Hes literally me

tiny oar
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I'm so Barbie

clear pulsar
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Put that manly hand in mine

viscid remnant
rigid linden
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guys

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SS can sometimes be wholesome

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dont give up hope

clear pulsar
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I'd be wholesome if I had krakenlord in my lobbies

tiny oar
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ur an inspiration formy

viscid remnant
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Nothing wholesome about my life

tiny oar
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okay chillll

viscid remnant
rigid linden
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👀

rigid linden
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krakenlords on vacation

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in the bermuda triangle

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atm

viscid remnant
junior plover
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I'm kenough

grand mesa
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Morning friends

livid wasp
# rigid linden

theyre not being nice they have to be sarcastic to avoid being banned

exotic wolf
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gm Puzzle heybear

rigid linden
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finally fkn did it

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GOODNIGHT

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UWU

livid wasp
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nice

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im at 2.2k I dont wanna queue more

viscid remnant
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Gz

zealous osprey
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what crafted item i should use in pvp as feral druid?

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i have 2 trophy of conquest and idk what i should craft with them

exotic wolf
rigid linden
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ty kings

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it was so easy after tryiong to get it on arms warrior

clear pulsar
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Put the interrupt embellish in one

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The helm could be engi one for full mastery more dam

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2nd embellish would need to be a 3rd item, probably sporecloak

livid wasp
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is that the trick?

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do I need to shuffle as arms warrior

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and then feral

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did you find the lifehack

zealous osprey
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also should i replace these with honor gear?

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also last question, is those talents ok (and pvp talents too?)

livid wasp
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for single target arena?

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you always want wicked claws and if you go clone, wild attunement

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for pvp talents

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the rake and stampeding roar ones are kinda useless

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or well stampeding roar can be good against boom root if your team has no dispels

zealous osprey
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ty

safe heart
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Yeah but what if you get rooted

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You will need stampede talent to escape it's grasp

livid wasp
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oh yeah if you dont have healer to dispel roots then its good

viscid remnant
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found @clear pulsar

livid wasp
twin delta
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just feel like it's rough to catch up when my dps gets low

tropic schooner
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if at all possible try to move away from mouseover

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also think about why you move certain ways

grand mesa
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That mouseover is really bad

tropic schooner
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a lot of your movement made little to no sense - including how on earth you got into that position to begin with

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and your monk died cause you rooted for some reason

grand mesa
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At certain points you’ve got your back turned to the other 3 players and you can’t see what’s going on but you’re inexplicably in melee range too because u have to stop to mouseover to heal

tropic schooner
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also mass root sounds like a strange choice (not sure what you play as resto these days tho)

grand mesa
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They gapped the trap/fear in beginning so you might have been able to meld it

tropic schooner
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  • trinket was quite late in that go too
grand mesa
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I’m assuming you’re playing dbl bloom photo. You should keep bloom on yourself

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That’s 20% more healing

tropic schooner
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to say something nice I like the clone on the PI hunter

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coulda tried recasting clone tho

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because it was almost guaranteed that they will trinket

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(was a really fucking snail speed trinket on hunter tho)

twin delta
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no mouseover healing? 😮 Just used to it from pve for years

grand mesa
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I think you can get away with clicking and mouseover for sure. But definitely need to be better at positioning and being speedy with managing your camera quickly

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Or else you end up in situations like that or running into a pillar or wall trying to heal but also keep distance

twin delta
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i've never healed with heal abilities on my bars ;p

grand mesa
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Yeah if this is just an 1800 and get out type of thing I’d say fuck it just focus on better positioning. But there’s no question that party target macros is much more efficient for arena

twin delta
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Probably worth knocking out two birds with one stone. target macros and positioning

tropic schooner
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But to make it sound a bit mean, mouseover is essentially the same as clicking spells

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Forcing your mouse in specific positions and make you unable to use mouse for other things

twin delta
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I'm really enjoying healing arenas. My buddies have pushed 2k so I'm a bit behind in overall pvp knowledge. Only gone to 1600 couple seasons for mogs.

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Didn't know mouseover was that bad 😮

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PvE brain

grand mesa
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I’m a pver too and bit the bullet

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In s2 of SL

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And it’s a night and day diff

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You actually feel like you have full control of your character and not fighting ur UI and it makes healing arenas way more fun

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So if ur interested in longer term playing and improving and learning then def worth considering the swap

fair mirage
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Albeit not ideal.

safe heart
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It's bad

pine ginkgo
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is there a macro for preventing me of accidentally leaving prowl when pressing prowl button twice by accident in pvp?

tropic schooner
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to me as I said I think there are very good arguments to make that mouseover is basically the same as clicking spells

fair mirage
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Whatever's comfy.

tropic schooner
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can you hit glad while doing so?

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yes

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is it still a major downside? also yes

fair mirage
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Cast @123 is ideal for a lot of priority abilities but requires practice and until you reach a certain comfort level it's only better in theory for instance.

tropic schooner
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who talks about that?

fair mirage
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Similar thing.

tropic schooner
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sure ideally you would have that, personally I dont

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nope

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swapping targets

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and having hotkeys for different targets for essentially all spells

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is far from similar

clear pulsar
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The ! should do it

clear pulsar
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But it's not quite that restricted

safe heart
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I use cast 123

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Only way to go

fair mirage
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Sure feels nice on ranged kicks and death grip.

grand mesa
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Cast 1/2/3?

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As in clone 1/2/3?

clear pulsar
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Maybe kick 1/2/3 and grip 1/2/3?!

grand mesa
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That’s p standard

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I think what’s atypical for you is you rejuv 1/2/3 instead of targetting

safe heart
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Oh yeah that's sus

lime light
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In this state of pvp

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U can even click

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Frames

clear pulsar
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I'm not holding down ctrl full time if I'm healing party2

clear fox
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Ww rolls over to new target

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You best be pre hotting already

clear fox
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Or I’m just coping and don’t want to figure out a pile of new binds/modifiers

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If we had / played with kick probs would be value though, at least for that

tiny oar
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clicking is so fucking easy

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not that mouse bind to target isnt better but like clicking is not that hard really

viscid remnant
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The problem is that a lot of noobs that click

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They lose their attention of things in the game

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Start losing position etc

tiny oar
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yerr

pine ginkgo
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how many sparks of shadowflame we have 'avaiable' yet?

harsh ore
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Avaiable

viscid remnant
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Id say atleast 4

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Maybe 5

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Not sure

harsh ore
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Nah more

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It’s like

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6

safe heart
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100?

pine ginkgo
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it is 8

crystal forge
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me when

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i see David

viscid remnant
grand mesa
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Trevvy missed u David

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Should come back and do 2s

viscid remnant
tepid spoke
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Is the coast clear

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@surreal heron

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Gm

surreal heron
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huh

tepid spoke
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Coast is not clear

safe heart
surreal heron
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you pinged me, wdym

grand mesa
livid wasp
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I hate it when I have to tirget someone and cant find my cursor

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in rbg

grand mesa
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Make cursor bigger or download the circle wa all the PVErs use

gloomy nova
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how do yall keep anything alive in 3s if they arent complete shit

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fucking rdruid feels like such trash now i cant believe it

livid wasp
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haha wait for the 3% healing nerf

livid wasp
safe heart
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Sounds like you just press nourish and win for free

grand mesa
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Yeah it makes sense right? Cause default behavior cursor disappears when you hold right click so it just makes sense once In a while you lose it lol

pine ginkgo
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rdruids are not prioritizing vers in pvp?

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like top 2 are haste/mastery basically on all pieces

grand mesa
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Rdruids offset nerfs by stacking way more throughput (mastery) assuming no one really hits the rdruid anyway

clear fox
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You def want to giga prio mastery, but I would not recommend going as deep on the zero versa as he did. I got lost in the sauce and was running 8% gear versa for a while… turns out you need to be god tier to get away with it. Running 15-17% now and feels better, since do still occasionally get swapped to

clear fox
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Can also run mh/oh and hit the full double softcap mastery - 24%

clear fox
burnt osprey
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Pretty easy to get to 20 mastery atm

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Treants in .7 feel kinda nutty as well

clear fox
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They best be

dim abyss
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i was trying to do some rated bgs with a full guild team. we all have zero rating. after 3 losses, our queues would never pop again. im guessing its because there arent enough teams queueing up around our mmr now? beneficial to try to get my mmr up by myself so we have better chances to get queues?

safe heart
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If you guys couldn't win as a group there's probably no hope

wanton ridge
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don't think there are a lot of rbg queues at all, but i could be wrong. Maybe you just had to wait the 2 other teams to finish their game

viscid remnant
verbal flame
clear pulsar
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David living his best nitro life

safe heart
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Theoretically how much hp would you have if you had gear

clear pulsar
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In pvp and full 450 as feral? 600k

viscid remnant
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Till it runs out

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In like 3 weeks or less

fossil forum
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is feral druid much harder in pvp than pve

ionic sierra
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i mean pvp is just a million times harder in general

clear pulsar
exotic wolf
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gm heybear

tiny oar
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yoo

rigid linden
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cum.

grand mesa
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Morning

tiny oar
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yooooooooooo

viscid remnant
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Hi

clear fox
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Hello

fossil forum
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is feral druid good at 100-0 someone really fast

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or what are they good at in pvp primarily

clear pulsar
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Cyclone

safe heart
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feral druids are not good in pvp primarily

fossil forum
fossil forum
safe heart
# fossil forum whys that

theyre okay its just that its like you only do pad dmg and your healing and defensives suck so its hard to be aggressive because youre so squishy

clear pulsar
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Also

safe heart
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or that

viscid remnant
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Dont play wow 👍

safe heart
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BIS

clear pulsar
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Being 'hard to get off' doesnt mean anything

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It's a great spell you wanna learn to use it

wanton ridge
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always saw feral's cyclone as a win-win. Either your target gets cycloned (win), or you get interrupted meaning your caster dps friends or healer are free to cast (win)

safe heart
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its important to know that im always wrong just because face thinks so

clear pulsar
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Not at all

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That's not even close to what I think of you

safe heart
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ok gotcha

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its important to remember im always wrong because ive never played feral before and never been higher than 1200 rating

viscid remnant
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True

livid wasp
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seems legit

viscid remnant
clear pulsar
livid wasp
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snupy never plays feral anymore

safe heart
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its probaby because cyclone is such a good spell

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and feral can 100-0 someone really fast

fossil forum
safe heart
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idk ask face

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hes just gunna come in behind me and say im wrong so

fossil forum
safe heart
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there are so many variables that go into "hard to get off" brother

nimble crescent
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I find myself struggling to survive in 3v3s if I get trained.
If I try to kite I run into the risk of dying because my healer is always out of the loop
If I stay in and pray a healer can save me I usually straight up just die after CDs are down, sometimes when they're up...

Any tips? (Feral/Balance)

safe heart
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like cyclone is jsut a hard casted spell

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so its just as hard to get off as any other spell in the game

viscid remnant
clear pulsar
livid wasp
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when will feral cast clone in cat form

clear pulsar
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You asked what feral is good for, not how to make feral easier

viscid remnant
nimble crescent
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Rate my Resto Shuffle tree:
BkGAlOfJaEu03UKI2/Mrbr1a+FSSKtWIJaICSSJppokEAAAAAAAAAAAAoIECQCSCQSIJSjkWSCAAAAAQAAgGA

safe heart
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2/10

clear pulsar
nimble crescent
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Extra range? I was considering 2 points in Ursine Vigor over them

clear pulsar
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Astral influence

nimble crescent
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Innervate has felt like a useless pickup tbh, Especially without the Tree. I could skip another two points from there and maybe go somewhere else but I dont see the play

clear pulsar
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If you're dying then sure maybe ursine vigor?! But it's kinda not insane and as resto you really shouldn't be dying

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Innervate and tree have nothing to do with each other and stacking them is completely counterproductive

nimble crescent
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I actually have a hard time if I'm trained by two ridiculous burst specs

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I.E. Ret Pally and a fury warr

safe heart
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and feral druid

nimble crescent
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I can never survive that shit for long

clear pulsar
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Yeah if you wanna pick it as a bandaid thats ok too, but it doesnt need to happen that way so work on kiting melees better

nimble crescent
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Tree + Regrowth spam + Innervate was my logic

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I'm currently sitting at 1500~ as Resto

clear pulsar
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Tree already makes your spells cost 50% less mana and its upgrade give you a ton of clearcast procs

nimble crescent
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Haven't really healed before this expansion and my experience is a few dozen solo shuffles and some 2s

nimble crescent
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Some slows/snares I cant seem to get rid off while stance changing btw... Is that intentional or are they just reapplying it all the time?

clear pulsar
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Both exist

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Usually if a slow cant be shifted out it's tied to a damage spell

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Or an aoe on the ground

nimble crescent
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Any useful macros, combos etc I could use for being trained?

viscid remnant
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Man discord is so buggy

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It shows as if face is the only guy typing

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Blud is talking to himself fr

viscid remnant
tepid spoke
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@viscid remnant

viscid remnant
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stoopu doopu for sure

tepid spoke
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Erin

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The goat

tropic schooner
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@lime light what the fuck are polish soft drinks

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2.25L bottle

lime light
tepid spoke
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Baby

tropic schooner
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2.25 already a monster

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3 even more of a monster

lime light
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i dont think so there are still

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like that

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the 2.25L

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most of them are 1.5L rn

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but ye back in the days

tropic schooner
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there 100% are 2.25

lime light
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they were

tropic schooner
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I currently have

lime light
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rly

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which one

tropic schooner
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a kofola bottle

lime light
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ah

tropic schooner
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right infront of me

lime light
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Lol

tepid spoke
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We have 3L coca cola but our milk goes to 1 liter max

lime light
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u dont wanna drink that

tropic schooner
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I am

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its

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weird

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but

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fine

tepid spoke
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Classic

lime light
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its like

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2000%

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sugar

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pure sugar dude

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XD

tepid spoke
tropic schooner
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this one at least

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isnt

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8g/100 ml

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32 kcal

lime light
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lol

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thats not bad

tropic schooner
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its not extreme for softdrink

safe heart
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you dont buy your soda in lbs?

lime light
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wtf

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ofc not

tepid spoke
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3liter drinks kinda a waste

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You open them and then they lose the carbonation in a day

tropic schooner
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close them again

tepid spoke
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Next day u got 2 liters o water coca cola

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They still lose it

lime light
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iam only buying the cans

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or a glass bottles

tepid spoke
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Cans are goated but they are like 2x as expensive

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Lol

lime light
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ye but for me (or at least here in poland)

tropic schooner
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I essentially never buy cans

tepid spoke
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Like a 3l coke is 2dollar a sixpack of cans is 5

lime light
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the cola in like a 2L bottle

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is sooo bad

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compared to the can or

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glass bottle

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i swear

tepid spoke
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Yea its different

lime light
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the best one

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is from glass bottle

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but its kinda rare rn

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to be able to buy it tbh

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weird

tepid spoke
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Glass bottle is not sold here ajymore

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At least at grocery stores

tropic schooner
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think we have glass bottled coke in like

lime light
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ye in most of the shops u cant buy it too

tropic schooner
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the cooled section

lime light
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it sometimes in auchan here

tropic schooner
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but not totally sure

lime light
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"auchan"

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but not always

tepid spoke
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I remember when i was a kid

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They made “coca cola express”

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200ml returnable glass bottle coke

lime light
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like start with that, in germany no one uses a credit card 😄

tepid spoke
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It was like 5 cents

tropic schooner
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but also

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not false

lime light
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idk i swear

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u german ppl

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are so weird

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but i like it

tropic schooner
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in most places

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you are able to pay with credit cards

lime light
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ye u CAN

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but u ppl

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dont

tropic schooner
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in most

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yea

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but not all

lime light
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poe tomorrow

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or u are not up to

tropic schooner
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I have 0 interest in poe

lime light
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okey

tropic schooner
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not my kind of game

clear pulsar
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@tropic schooner bg3?

tropic schooner
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no

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wotlk

clear pulsar
lime light
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what are u doing there

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and with which class

tropic schooner
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raiding with several

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pvp with hpala ele

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recently started on firemaw again cause some ppl from priest discord play there

lime light
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aha

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kitten cleave?

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when

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or u are playing something else

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then a warrior

tropic schooner
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my war is dogshit geared but ye playing war

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and temporarly going to go tonk

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to gear up

lime light
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idk first time

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since like 10 years

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i have 0 interest in wow

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if i had a cool chill guild on wrath i would prolly play a bit

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like a good guild, that is not super dog, and not doing speed runs

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just boss parses

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but thats not a thing

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if guild is not speed running they are terribly bad

tropic schooner
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ehh

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wouldnt say so

lime light
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u think so?

tropic schooner
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tbh especially now

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with toc being the relevant content

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"speedrun" is just clear raid

lime light
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true

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but its easy raid no

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like catch up raid or iam wrong

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i dont rly remember

tropic schooner
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ehh

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depends on the perspective

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its obviously not hard

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even ulduar/icc isnt really hard for retail experienced players

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but its not as piss easy as naxx

lime light
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naxx was hard

tropic schooner
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very

lime light
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man

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my druid

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was

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godly geared

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in s1

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of wrath

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for pve

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and i was only pugging

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the only thing i was missing was the weapon

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it never dropped

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unh dk's everywhere

livid wasp
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1 hour 43 mins of pugging and we go rbg

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into a booster team

broken junco
#

Chris cornells daughter sure looks like him

livid wasp
#

feral assa rogue fistweaver pretty op now I heard

safe heart
#

I'm up to 2-12 now zechy

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We are grooving

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200cr on the horizon

livid wasp
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pro

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play with assa rogue mistweaver I heard its op

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fan of knives and aoe rip spam while monk does 500k hps

safe heart
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Why would that comp be good

livid wasp
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I dunno but this one feral is 2.3k

safe heart
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Did he get to 2.3k playing that or did he get 2.3k then try it once

livid wasp
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got to it

safe heart
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Well idk

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Like why not play that comp with a dk

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If you're just abusing assa aoe

livid wasp
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I dunno

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i think if the players are good they can make anything work

safe heart
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Feels like a snupy video title

livid wasp
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especially if its something weird like that which people dunno how to play against cause it goes against the programmed comps so hard

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I couldnt play it for shit probably ive only played jungle

safe heart
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Same

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I really have a hard time playing stuff besides jungle
I'm okay with kitty cleave but that's only because it's hard to actually mess up

livid wasp
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im just trash overall

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only reason I got glad was with welfare

safe heart
#

Same

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Everything I ever did in wow was because boosted / carried

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But that's okay, it makes buying glad alot more fun

livid wasp
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hawheahweh

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queued jungle haha

safe heart
#

Sick

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You will surely climb and your healer won't tilt

livid wasp
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like we go against ww fury warr

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healer is like you gotta kite more

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idk what that means

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if I kite I cant do dmg

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I never understood that

safe heart
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If it was me

livid wasp
#

ofc kiting when they are bursting or healer is cced which I do

safe heart
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I'd just instant cast root the guy hitting me and run to healer

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But kite more is also a generic healer take

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Healers just say that when they can't heal enough

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Cuz if you're running when they burst or when he's cc'd that's the appropriate time to do that

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But he's un cc'd and free casting, grip me if that's what it takes

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But I'd wait for face to fact check me before you read what I wrote

livid wasp
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and hes like I should be pre kiting

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already running when they get cds back

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meh

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I should lf more jungle