#pvp
viscid remnant
livid wasp
he is like just bleed and run
like thats a good idea letting him reset kidney
need to try to fuck him up in between
safe heart
Moonfire decimated rogues
viscid remnant
clear pulsar
Just go raven form and blind him
safe heart
After supatease makes a video about it
random patrol
with his pogface on the thumbnail
livid wasp
does incap roar dr cyclone
I dont even know havent played it in df
still doesnt clear dots?
grand mesa
I just know it goes thru parry and evade now
And it’s apparently been bugged this whole time lmao
strange gyro
If I have 441 Djaruun as Feral should I use it in PvP? I can’t buy 450 gear yet, only 437
grand mesa
They stated that it being parried evaded and dodged was a bug this whole time
And fixed it
broken junco
Thyme never had bone marrow before
A steak alone would kill thyme
His body would implode
edgy shale
r u srs no it obv doesnt
tropic schooner
warstomp goes through it
stealth stun also does
livid wasp
I wish feral was good at duels again
wish there were other ferals who dueled
cant see any anymore
spent like 3+ hours in durotar
dunno
clear pulsar
They stated that it being parried evaded and dodged was a bug this whole time
I love it when they do taht
Change the way something works after 8 years and say it was just a bug
safe heart
why would you be able to parry a noise
livid wasp
im so jealous of you guys just able to go on about your day not giving a duck about duels
safe heart
bro im ngl
ive never in my life
given 1 piece of mind about duels
its like the lowest form of pvp imo
even lower than rbgs
tardy hare
That shit made me so mad
Ive dueled for half my wow career, my dueling days have come to an end
tardy hare
That shit made me so mad
Parried incap roar that is
Goldshire duels were peak
I used to stand there
And a new person would come
And the goldshire kids would be like
Yoo u need to duel Shingeki
He'll trash you
tardy hare
All day afk on the fence
Dont target people
Thats weak
They target tou
Meanwhile you inspect then somehow
Judge em real good
tardy hare
True tactics
livid wasp
im so tired from dueling all the wws and rogues its so tough cba
enha was worse than ww tbh
those heals
I feel like I am just a laughingstock now compared to before
fucks me up
safe heart
before what
livid wasp
at least in arenas others cant see me lose
when feral still had heals and was a super st class
wanton ridge
Change the way something works after 8 years and say it was just a bug
did they ever fix the bug with night elves rogues / druids randomly dropping combat
always fun on my rogue I'm cranking dps into someone in an arena and suddently i can sap them
safe heart
i mean sometimes when im getting desperate to live i press meld to detarget myself
livid wasp
im dead all the damn time
safe heart
trinket early and run alot
wanton ridge
If you want to play as a cat I would recommend the game "Stray", you won't die there :D
livid wasp
dunno its not so easy dunno how to explain just doesnt feel it works atm
safe heart
its a duel, theres no healer, you need to just trinket the millisecond they press a cd on you and cc them the whole time
livid wasp
I run a shit ton against ww against his fists serenity and tok
safe heart
play typhooon and shit fuck it
livid wasp
I really wanna have the heal talents for duels so cant
and rogue is in control so mucj I just feel the only dmg slot is between his stun drs
and hope I do enough dmg
livid wasp
If you want to play as a cat I would recommend the game "Stray", you won't die t...
watched forsen beat it
and theres cloak as 2nd evasion and removing dots, just disgusting meh
safe heart
is rsham free glad
grand mesa
I think it’s probably still hpal no ?
wanton ridge
We can just blame solo shuffle ruining arenas 👍
wanton ridge
You think you do, but you don't literally happened with it
safe heart
but dont worry
wanton ridge
I think the culprit is their slow reaction to changes to how it works
clear pulsar
Stay hating
safe heart
everyone who has their r1 and glad teams going 2 years strong will say its fine
wanton ridge
I haven't looked in a while, have they done anything to get more healers to queue at all?
clear pulsar
You get extra 50 conq win or lose
haughty compass
We can just blame solo shuffle ruining arenas 👍
Shuffle is the greatest thing to happen to wow pvp since arena. Ok bye.
safe heart
pykan no
wanton ridge
It's both the greatest and the worst thing to happen to wow pvp since arena
wanton ridge
I've met some really nice people in LFG, some I've been friends with for years and years
haughty compass
Your spec isn’t meta? Have fun in 3s. Shuffle you compete against your own spec. It’s bis.
clear pulsar
Shuffle is the greatest thing to happen to wow pvp since arena. Ok bye.
Common pykan W
safe heart
work on what
grand mesa
I still think 20min+ queues for dps is asinine
How has that not been addressed. Imagine league having 20 min queues
safe heart
doomed
grand mesa
It allows it to average out
So if you go 0-6
You have no one to blame but you
Cause you literally played with everyone in that lobby
safe heart
makes it hard to improve
grand mesa
Idk modern gaming that does stuff like arena is very drop in drop out lobby gaming with solo queues so it’s insane to think this isn’t the way moving forward
They just need to get their head out of their ass and incentivize healers so dps queues goes down or go back o drawing board and figure a way to deal with it without healers
wanton ridge
I wanted to play my shaman but besides playing resto, it just sucks waiting in valdrakken for queues to pop
junior plover
safe heart
do u have fun having every game be a game of chicken with ur cds
instead of being able to coordinate with a team
junior plover
Shuffle or not you would never coordinate with randoms in random q
wanton ridge
The other healer has the same issue so it evens out
junior plover
Impossible
grand mesa
Idk my experience was when I played like 2600-2700 games the pressing didn’t overlap too much
They’d see me try to sit it then they’d press
If I didn’t try to sit insta they didn’t press
Obv lower down it’s hell sure
clear pulsar
Shuffle or not you would never coordinate with randoms in random q
Yeah there's a lot of talk about how uncoordinated shuffle is from people that don't have a main team so they don't really queue coordinated 3s either
safe heart
coordinated 3s would be nice
haughty compass
Shuffle is uncoordinated in mordor yes.
clear pulsar
I don't think the dps queue time is a game design issue that the devs can just 'fix'
grand mesa
Was when a specific spec was so ducking meta
wanton ridge
I don't know how they can incentivize people to play healers. Playing a fury warrior is a very different game than playing resto druid in shuffle
grand mesa
That a perennial 1800 guy was propelled to higher who didn’t belong
When I played it was spriests who didn’t disperse or MD
wanton ridge
you can play fury warrior with a controller, it's relaxing. Meanwhile I wanted to pull my hair playing rdruid last season
grand mesa
And I’m sure later on it was the rets and shit
clear pulsar
you can play fury warrior with a controller, it's relaxing. Meanwhile I wanted t...
You can heal with a controller too
Wasnt drainerx 3k with it?
Or was it lontar idr
I think it was drainer
safe heart
idk maybe i cant play any comp besides jungle or something
wanton ridge
You know what I mean though, lots of people playing those zug zug classes aren't the ones who will be queuing as healer lol
how do you make people want to heal
tropic schooner
wouldnt even talk about it that judgingly
but a lot of main dps players just dont enjoy healing
safe heart
healing is fun i guess
grand mesa
Idk I’ve always been of the opinion u just make healer rating so free that that the zug zug fury warrior seriously considers healing to achieve their goals
Cause idk if u can attract new healers
U convert dps to healers
wanton ridge
but a lot of main dps players just dont enjoy healing
yeah sorry if it came out as judgemental, but I agree with you
grand mesa
Or u just borrow the skirmish format and u allow 2v2
safe heart
well yeah because zug zug classes are chimps
wanton ridge
I mean, when I play fury warrior, I have a different mindset than when I play my rdruid
me smash
grand mesa
I immediately lose 100 iq when I played warrior and would make all the mistakes I’d be mad at dps for. No trinket and someone’s half health? I’m chasing them behind their pillar
wanton ridge
I played enhance a bit last season, logic goes out of the window whe I get ascendance procs
tropic schooner
I immediately lose 100 iq when I played warrior and would make all the mistakes ...
yes because as a melee you have a completly different view of the game
so as a melee it is harder to have that overview compared to a healer or even ranged dps
because you need to focus on other stuff more
I still hate them when they fucking los me
safe heart
if was good at healing and i thought 2 ppl would carry me to glad just to have a healer, id play healer
wanton ridge
just being able to queue and get into a shuffle game instantly (under a minute) as any spec would be the dream. I would back down from a bunch of pve stuff if that happened
tropic schooner
yea dont think that will ever happen
safe heart
how come they dont have mythic shuffle then
tropic schooner
wouldnt surprise me
safe heart
you do 1 dungeon with every combo of ppl
grand mesa
M+ has the same exact issue that arena players do
safe heart
and if u leave early you go back to 0 io
grand mesa
Player vs. LFG window
tropic schooner
yep
wanton ridge
I would love that tbh. Just do dungeons with whoevere at the same level as you
grand mesa
And if you’re a non meta spec it’s terrible good fucking luck
Joe the plumber comes home from work and has 2 hours to play wow and spends that time getting declined as a survival hunter
tropic schooner
I would love that tbh. Just do dungeons with whoevere at the same level as you
so youd rather wait in a 1 hour queue for m+ shuffle then arena shuffle?
wanton ridge
Lol
grand mesa
I think m+ shuffle up until the “required” weekly level and then LFG to push actual Game Two shit
Makes sense
wanton ridge
It probably would be worse for DPS, but same thing as healer for shuffle, make people want to tank/heal for M+ and you'll have more
right now healing in M+ is so god damn miserable
wanton ridge
Well see what they're doing with healing specs and affixes atm? just do the opposite
grand mesa
yeah I think it’s harder to incentivize in m+ than arena
Arena u could just jack up the healer MMR
And make 3-3s fucking generous
And healers will play
How do u incentivize m+ healers
To queue
wanton ridge
Instead of buffing everyone to hpal level, they nerfed hpal. They added 2 new affixes, which are usually healers jobs, and if people dont deal with it it's on the healer again to recover
safe heart
free mmr as healer id definitely consider it
grand mesa
That’s what it should be
Then dps queue times would go down
Which is like most of the arena players to begin with
safe heart
not having to buy glad would be sick
grand mesa
And the overall health of shuffle is better
wanton ridge
I knew this was talked about at some point, and its you again lmao
safe heart
oh
im not even talking about shuffle
im talking about 3s
shuffle can rot
give healers free mmr in 3s
wanton ridge
why not both
wanton ridge
it's there to stay, shiould try to make it better instead
safe heart
so it needs to become more miserable if possible
in shuffle you should get LESS mmr as healer because your queues are faster
dps mmr can get buffed and become more generous since you only get 1 queue a week
wanton ridge
bruh lol
grand mesa
I knew this was talked about at some point, and its you again lmao
I’ve been saying this since DF
When I saw how the MMR system actually worked
Lmao
And dps were sitting 45 min queue times and healer MMR became essentially a duel where 3-3 didn’t do shit. Ofc healers aren’t queueing
wanton ridge
Yeah healing in a solo shuffle you're a pokemon battler fighting another one, and at the end of it all your pokemons are dead and you gotta walk home with no taxis available
grand mesa
Idk I watch foxy and it’s just meatball and sauce
safe heart
but u guys all complain about rdruid so much now i wouldnt dare log mine in
i paid for a PL and everything on it
60 boost and then 60-70 PL
grand mesa
….
You tank to Mordor with that build then shit on idiots with it to climb back up then send me screenshots of that specific win streak
safe heart
so just learn rsham right
thats the play
rdruid would almost certainly be more fun but
if i lose one game i have to uninstall
clear pulsar
You tank to Mordor with that build then shit on idiots with it to climb back up ...
No wtf I tank to mordor when I decide to give other builds a go
safe heart
tahts the other thing man
they need to bring back the mop talent rows
theorycrafting builds
i wanna just lock in my 6 talents and never look at them again
healing is easy too right
healing r1 and healing 15s
==
thats the G advice ive come to know and love
clear fox
No wtf I tank to mordor when I decide to give other builds a go
I kinda do the same, but then feels like I get the r1 dps Lobby have to swap back to ‘standard’ talents to keep up
Can’t commit talent crimes for deep focus / potp / master shapeshifter or like reforestation when need to be doing nearly 100k hps
My hopium is that .7 tree boy let’s us mix it up more. Wtb dropping germ for Swarm split & reforestation being viable
grand mesa
I find log of recent kill that’s my healer comp. Pick the highest rdruid hps log
Copy cooldowns 1:1 into sheet
Wa tells me when to press
Ya when I was boomkin I would lorggs
viscid remnant
Gm
grand mesa
Yo
viscid remnant
grand mesa
You got a good job
safe heart
i didnt ask you to buy me a good job tho
should i go tauren or dorf
fuji would want me to go dorf
viscid remnant
Darkiron
safe heart
one of my long term life goals is making fuji proud of me
viscid remnant
grand mesa
Problem with being a Druid in gw2
Is I have to be a ranger first
Have a bow and a pet like a filthy hunter
viscid remnant
Bm hunter player smh
grand mesa
Truly the darkest timeline
viscid remnant
grand mesa
This is a good emote lol
viscid remnant
stray sigil
Problem with being a Druid in gw2
guardian is more like druid in that its versatile
than druid being druid
random patrol
just play feral in wow and roleplay as a bm pet
tiny oar
hahaha imagine being wow player hahahahhaahahahaaga
tiny oar
one of my long term life goals is making fuji proud of me
same
I'll never achieve it tho
what
I get rank 1 on feral?
I dont understand anantnd
I dont ud er sntand
viscid remnant
hahaha imagine being wow player hahahahhaahahahaaga
Thats u
stray sigil
mesmer looks fun
tru chrono fun
safe heart
fuji what do play on gw2
clear fox
Yo what happens to ipodMax
Remember he posted a lot while I was lurking and now haven’t seen him
viscid remnant
@edgy shale
stray sigil
fuji what do play on gw2
willbender
lime light
@stray sigil what's wrong with you little rat
stray sigil
tiny oar
viscid remnant
livid wasp
wanna lvl alts david
viscid remnant
Iam at work and without sub
broken junco
Iam at work and without sub
Your mental is healing
viscid remnant
Your mental is healing
Nah its doomed no matter what i do
broken junco
Nah its doomed no matter what i do
Heroin
tiny oar
big sussy
clear pulsar
Gm dreamgrove
tiny oar
gm f2f
viscid remnant
Gmo
livid wasp
asddadadaddasdasdd
livid wasp
viscid remnant
livid wasp
today il be more productive than spend 4 hours dueling people I cant beat
viscid remnant
Go gym
livid wasp
I dont drink, mostly just sightseeing and restaurants
running feels like a nice workout, cycling is just a way to get to places
livid wasp
just gotta be careful not to overdo it or rip knees
livid wasp
true but not as chill
clear fox
But also I gamer old - 32
livid wasp
I hope I wont fuck them up
tropic schooner
Should be fine if listen to body
Sounds like zechey would just scream at his body
If it doesn't do what he wants
clear fox
I do that and then body rebels with serous injury
Also ruined in crashes in races
Have some nice bloody pics
But not needed for PvP channel even though I guess is cycling PvP 🤔
livid wasp
can be
clear fox
Also start your own rbg team
viscid remnant
I could start running maybe actually
livid wasp
not enough players in this dead game for that haha
clear fox
There’s gotta be a fair number of 1800-2100* shuff boys that you can recruit
livid wasp
1% of pvpers do rbgs
clear fox
Like if someone came to me in na and says my boy
viscid remnant
Nah but rbg is pdfile gamemode
clear fox
Heal this certified not shit squad of PvP-er’s
Everyone’s got mog or duelist enchant
I’d give it a go
And fairly confident to say the people that are getting / boosting hero every season aren’t actually mechanically THAT good
livid wasp
dunno about that
clear fox
Just nobody can get a competent squad to challenge them
livid wasp
more than arenas
clear fox
Like every yolo / premade rbg squad has been mechanically trash players on average
livid wasp
yes a lot more chill
not having to tryhard
all the time
just teamfight
but losing sucks
cause it takes ages
at least arena is over quick
its not me who does the blaming
clear fox
but losing sucks
That’s why you need standing premade
Just everyone leave and go again
If you know Gileneas is lost or whatever
livid wasp
should just leave if you get owned in ww teamfight
clear fox
But finding 9 other (non shit) people with similar availability is hard for sure
clear fox
Hard enough to find 2 non trash for 3s
Then again I hardly try to find and just send endless shuff
clear fox
but im stuck 1.9k
Do achieves transfer between eu / na
tropic schooner
no
viscid remnant
Do achieves transfer between eu / na
Negative
Bruv what is this on my 
is it joever
tropic schooner
looks like a portal 2 room
viscid remnant
livid wasp
do you work at some hardware store
viscid remnant
No
livid wasp
gave me those vibes
clear fox
Darn, because if they did I’d push hota with 200 ping
viscid remnant
Imean
Ur german right
U could join those german rbg groups
And show ur na acc for xp
Maybe
Idk tho
Nah
Mine doesnt
Uh
No
Maybe i can try that
U gotta try ig its not default
Cuz i got 2.7 soylo on na 
livid wasp
I joined a rbg group full of germans it was boring couldnt understand shiet
viscid remnant
Them germans r crazy
livid wasp
rbg blitzkrieg
tropic schooner
time to learn german
tiny oar
helollo
livid wasp
wtf
viscid remnant
Ayo
livid wasp
german channel emotes
viscid remnant
Blud wirh the adolf emote
tropic schooner
yikes
clear fox
I joined a rbg group full of germans it was boring couldnt understand shiet
Ich spreche deutsch aber @tropic schooner sprecht massiv besser
viscid remnant
Guten tag to u too
tropic schooner
Ich spreche deutsch aber <@139532395769495552> sprecht massiv besser
close enough
clear fox
Mother speaks German I can get by fine enough speaking… but typing feels like a crime
Without spell correct I’m ded
clear fox
Even then it’s preeeety bad
viscid remnant
clear fox
It be what it be
tropic schooner
and id say should end with spricht massiv besseres deutsch
but that wouldnt be objectivly wrong
just a bit weird
clear fox
and id say should end with spricht massiv besseres deutsch
I knew this I think? But couldn’t get my phone to auto correct it after 2 tries and sent it
tropic schooner
(also massiv is a bit strange to use, but funny and not wrong)
clear fox
(also massiv is a bit strange to use, but funny and not wrong)
Guess it just funny then
Ich wurde es wieder sagen
tropic schooner
could sell you some umlaut
clear fox
I also ALWATYS forget to capitalize every noun
clear fox
Äëïöü
Umlaut schumlaut
Also pretty bad at sie vs du
Since only spoken German ever with family
clear fox
I just remember months ago I tried to translate some German rage message to some feral
And missed pretty bad
You came in with the correct version and I was like sheeeet
tropic schooner
in contexts of online games
clear fox
My German is not ad good as I thought
clear fox
Good to know if I ever get going on eu server
tropic schooner
essentially unless you talk to some very old people
or in professional enviorments
du will be fine
clear fox
Though feels like every German speaks better English than I do German
100% writes
Maybe speaks I can keep up idk
tropic schooner
you are prolly not exposed to the bad english speaking germans
they absolutely exist
and its not that rare
/writing too
vernal peak
Does resto use this Efflorescence spell in arenas at all?
clear fox
Does resto use this Efflorescence spell in arenas at all?
Yes
vernal peak
How frequently is this and is it high priority?
clear fox
How frequently is this and is it high priority?
Low priority overall since people refuse to stand in it
Gotta brush my teeth but I’ll type up something in 5 min
vernal peak
ok thank you
tropic schooner
Gotta brush my teeth but I’ll type up something in 5 min
good luck
clear fox
If you have questions send now and I answer then
vernal peak
Is Wild Growth something I should use frequently? I love this spell as an instant cast with the Early spring talent, but is it better not to use this in Solo shuffle? And should it ever use soul of the forest bonuses or is that only for Regrowth? Also, I see a lot of people talenting into Frenzied regeneration, if you run Well honed instincts will this use that cooldown? and how do you get the rage as bear?
clear fox
Thanks ent, but I got this. It’s only 5am in Las Vegas. Flight in 4 hr gonna be pain tho 😬
Efflorescence is not going to be core to hps as it is in pve, in PvP it’s hard to get people to stand in it long enough to extract the value out of it
tropic schooner
Thanks ent, but I got this. It’s only 5am in Las Vegas. Flight in 4 hr gonna be ...
the way to the bathroom is a dangerous one
clear fox
Which leaves three situations where you can. Either only trust yourself to stand in it, quad melee (or dk on your team) or shadow priest games
vernal peak
Ok sounds good I will keep the bind on my mouse
clear fox
Would say the first is most common, especially in shuffle. Find myself often running double blooms on teammates and standing in it myself
Oh and always assumes running verdancy
Without that talent efflorescence is imho worthless for PvP
vernal peak
ohh ok so if I do not run it I do not need it?
clear fox
ohh ok so if I do not run it I do not need it?
If your not running Verdancy almsot never going to drop efflorescence
I trade verdancy vs nourish in the tree
It’s not that hard to get
Oh and to your other question, I’ve NEVER run early spring this season
vernal peak
Cenarion ward is new for me, is this something you try to optimize by using before a big hit like a chaos bolt? Or can you just put it on cooldown?
clear fox
The mana cost on wild growth is just too high for arena
vernal peak
Oh yeah that is high mana, also only 3 people ... should I just never cast?
clear fox
Legit I don’t think I’ve ever cast it this season. Maybe in an aff lock lobby once or twice
vernal peak
Health potion are not usable in the arena right?
clear fox
They are not, just gealthsyone
vernal peak
Oh sweet that frees up a comfy bind
clear fox
Cenarion ward is new for me, is this something you try to optimize by using befo...
Ideally yes, but hard to predict when damage is incoming in PvP sometimes. I find myself just sending it on cd when someone is getting chunked
vernal peak
Ok good I was just not sure if that was possible with all the little dot ticks that could hit first lol
clear fox
Do want to be conscious to extend it whenever possible with swiftmend, since usually running Vi over flourish in arena content
Sadly can’t double extend anymore but can still make that 8 second heal go out to 12
vernal peak
Oh sweet I didn't even think of that
clear fox
Not essential but just a nice thing to do when possible
vernal peak
I haven't seen an r druid taking typhoon yet, is it just not good or the other points are so tight it's not worth it?
clear pulsar
Do want to be conscious to extend it whenever possible with swiftmend, since usu...
Do we?
viscid remnant
tepid spoke
What time is awc
clear fox
Not 100% but I think 1pm est, like yesterday
viscid remnant
In 50mins i think
crystal forge
Wooooaaahhh awc hype 
crystal forge
viscid remnant
4
grand mesa
Economics for wow never made sense
For both sides
Why play this degen for a 70k split 4 ways if you win
Then blizz is like why give a bigger pot for an esport with 7k viewers
viscid remnant
doubt
tepid spoke
but if it was that its decent
grand mesa
Maybe if ur third world then That pot split four ways might be ok but idk
tepid spoke
no
viscid remnant
eastern eu maybe
tepid spoke
split 70k/4 is not worth
tepid spoke
but no split 70k def worth
viscid remnant
or pikabo
tepid spoke
all u do is play wow all day anyway
im not even sure why pvp is not liked by players
grand mesa
??? Rly
tepid spoke
its pretty good
no other game is like wow pvp
its so complex
like why do ppl like league more than wow
its 4 buttons u press
u barely track shit like ultis
in south america league is 400x more popular than wow
and u know why most people dont know/play wow here?
monthly subscription
i know ALOt of ppl that would play wow if it was free
grand mesa
I think arena only players should be f2p
Would attract a large base to prop up ladder and some of those guys may end up eventually converting to pve paid subscription
safe heart
Yeah but if you're not paying to play who cares if you play
tepid spoke
nah they should just make wow f2p and make a better job at ingame shit to buy
like league
and skins
clear fox
Yeah but if you're not paying to play who cares if you play
Just lock all x-mog / mounts behind mtx
Or sub rather
tepid spoke
they also should make a better job at fixing the core game ui
grand mesa
I’m sure they ran the numbers tbh and it’s just not worth it for them to go f2p when they have all these millions locked into subs
tepid spoke
it blows my mind you need 5 addons to even start playing arena
grand mesa
Atleast for now
grand mesa
they also should make a better job at fixing the core game ui
Them adding and fine tuning arena frame but not adding DR baseline is a huge miss
viscid remnant
league is more complex than arena for sure lol
tepid spoke
bro
league is the same shit since it came out
lol
your champion has 4 skills
wtf u mean its more complex
clear fox
Obvious bait is obvious
viscid remnant
3 for rotation 2 mobility 2 defensive 2 boorst
viscid remnant
u have to track shit in leauge too
tepid spoke
yea the zilean ulti and dragon timer
like OMNIcd, Omnibar, dr tracker, flyplate buffs
gladius
all should be baseline
they should be in the core arena ui
viscid remnant
ye
viscid remnant
but pvp is a minigame inside dying indie game
grand mesa
They’re more focused trying to not piss off the 95% of players who don’t play pvp Matty lol
tepid spoke
but like they could make a lot more players play pvp
if they just changed little things
grand mesa
Idk I think they need to do more then fcuntional base pvp UI
Simplify CC. Make offensives more visually discernible (does anyone know what shadow blades look like when a rogue pops it), reduce button bloat
If they want to attract more
tepid spoke
Typed from my iphone
junior plover
If poverty and homelessness won't do it
Maybe the gamer uprising
Is what we need
tepid spoke
like the awc spectator arena ui
looks a lot better than the actual ui player ssee
lmao
its so stupid
livid wasp
awc is boring
tepid spoke
what esport is not boring
league is boring af too
mdi is 7 hours of listening to dratnos cringe facts
livid wasp
csgo can be exciting
csgo and something like rocket league are the only good ones
rest esports are like you gotta be good at the game to understand wtf is going on
and focus 100%
livid wasp
its pretty simple tho
tepid spoke
or else its just 90 mins of people running with a ball
livid wasp
ball in goal = win
tepid spoke
u have to know how to play football to know whats going on
viscid remnant
csgo is bis esport
tropic schooner
you mean ice hockey?
livid wasp
something like snooker, a bit more complex gotta know the rules
livid wasp
its the main sport here rofl
tepid spoke
or else its just whatever 2 hours of the ball flying through the field 1min and then they take a break for 8 mins
tepid spoke
soccer is not simple
tepid spoke
if u know shit about it sure
tropic schooner
absolutely is
livid wasp
I know its not simple and there are a lot of tactics in it but its easy to watch
tropic schooner
no
tepid spoke
win
livid wasp
a lot harder to see the winning conditions in arena or lol or dota
tropic schooner
like with football you can see people running at the opponent/run towards the goal
livid wasp
ball near goal = exciting moment in football
tropic schooner
you see same people run forward -> they likely have an advantage
that is a LOT harder to see in wow
livid wasp
yeah
tropic schooner
like while I think american football is a snoozefest
grand mesa
Cs go is the most digestible popular main stream esport
tropic schooner
you can still have a decent guess whos ahead
grand mesa
And casual “oh what’s this let me tune in” viewer friendly
tepid spoke
cs go is so simple tho
tropic schooner
but tbh I think cricket is like second most popular sport in the world
and its an absolute mess
tropic schooner
yes simple to follow
grand mesa
Kill all 5 or plant and explode or defuse the planted bomb
The win conditions and stakes are easy to follow
Without a commentator exactly spelling it out for you
tropic schooner
one team shoots 3 guys -> viewers know they are ahead
enemy team comes back -> viewer knows was an exciting comeback
dont need to know shit
tardy hare
Also A LOT of people have kicked a ball into a goal once, while a lot less people have played those games
tropic schooner
but like watching wow arena you see one team has no trinkets for the upcoming blind go from rogue
and they somehow survive that
thats a lot harder to parse out if you dont know shit
grand mesa
Or you watch an overlap and the commentators know exactly that the next kidney is so dangerous
tardy hare
Rocket league best esport
tepid spoke
yea but like theres a lot of sports like that
grand mesa
But viewers have no clue
tepid spoke
like
tropic schooner
yea but like theres a lot of sports like that
agreed
grand mesa
Casual viewers
tropic schooner
how often are you excited by watching golf?
tardy hare
A lot of sports are watchable, esports just has the general idea that gaming is bad
And often faster
Soccer is fucking slow as hell
tropic schooner
I also think golf is boring, baseball/american football boring as hell
tardy hare
But watching baseball is zzzz
tropic schooner
and darts is my favourite meme sport
tropic schooner
and then you realize american football games are even longer then fucking baseball
tepid spoke
i never understood american football
tardy hare
Man we went to a baseball game when we had road trip in canada
Took 3-4 hours
Cause they take break all the time
livid wasp
I watch snooker sometimes when I visit my parents kek dad is crazy about it
tepid spoke
they take breaks in american football ever fuckin play
tropic schooner
snooker is fun to watch
tardy hare
I like field hockey
Mostly cause i play
But its just a bit faster than soccer
To watch
tropic schooner
also I think an issue for casual watchers is that its somewhat hard to track the ball
tepid spoke
but like valorant is not the same as cs go isnt it
tardy hare
Also i get so tired of the "subjective rules" in soccer
tardy hare
Soccer has so many rules that are insanely subjectively treated by ref
Annoys me so much
tepid spoke
yup and like if the referee is from a country that hates one of the countries that are playing
its cooked af
grand mesa
Soccer has so many rules that are insanely subjectively treated by ref
I don’t understand the clock
grand mesa
Like it just keeps running
tardy hare
I don’t understand the clock
Oh they fixed that now for normal competition
tropic schooner
Like it just keeps running
yes
grand mesa
And it’s up to Ref decision?
grand mesa
When the game is over
tardy hare
Nowadays they add up the time for some leagues
tropic schooner
when the ref says
grand mesa
Just very weird
tropic schooner
like actual gametime for most football matches
tardy hare
Should just put strict timer though
tropic schooner
is like 50-60 mins
tardy hare
But its less stupid that it was before
tropic schooner
yea I think it would absolutely be fine to reduce the gametime of a football mathc to 60 mins
and be strict with time stops
grand mesa
That makes sense to me personally
tropic schooner
but with how much the fans hated VAR introduction
I doubt that will happen anytime soon
tardy hare
Yeah i really like field hockey rules
tropic schooner
change is bad
tardy hare
So many of them should be used in soccer
Same with VAR
Just make it so team can challenge
When they see obvious foul but ref didnt see
Cause they never see
viscid remnant
tardy hare
U call for challenge and u r wrong, u lose challenge. If u are right u keep challenge
Gg
Fair game
grand mesa
Idk like refs have a strong influence in all sports but man I think refs have so much power in soccer
tropic schooner
people would hate that so much
tardy hare
Its dumb as fuck cause its a great system in every sports that uses it
grand mesa
No wonder folks pay the refs
tepid spoke
but yea i think in wow classes have too many cds that are hard to understand
unless u have played the class
like even for me
grand mesa
They need to all look like ice block wings combustion
tepid spoke
i dont even know what half the cds of rogue do
tardy hare
Most players dont even understand other classes
grand mesa
Bro if I didn’t have a wa I’d have no clue what monk pressing serenity would look like
tepid spoke
i dont even know whats ele cd cd now
that they dont play ascendo
primordial wave?
fire ele?
im not even sure why they removed incarn armor moonkin too
or incarn armor feral
grand mesa
Visual acuity must be a thing imo
But they do a shit job with that everywhere. Where raid mechanics are red on a red floor in a red themed raid instance
tardy hare
Cause they need to add armor to all different cat forms then
They should add the incarn cat as cosmetic though
Same with shirvallah
tepid spoke
and like spec diferentiation should be a thing tho
like the only reason i know that rogue was sub
is cuz it had shadowdance
tropic grove
im not even sure why they removed incarn armor moonkin too
moonkin still has the armor in incarn
but not if you play astral glyph
tepid spoke
astral glyph is cooked
tropic grove
didnt spend like 4M on tier 3 to not see it
tepid spoke
rogue is such an uninteresting class to me
i have 0 interest on learning what it does
and i see it so little too
but yea i agree if u press a cd it should be glowy as fuck
but what would u do to warriors
how could u make them glow
or something
when they press recklessness
and avatar has a visual
but like i never notice the visual
tepid spoke
didnt spend like 4M on tier 3 to not see it
why even get that shit mog
just play the pandaria cm
tepid spoke
nope
tardy hare
Warrior is easy af to see
tepid spoke
t3 is just the same as tier 7
tepid spoke
its not easy
maybe if u play at that camera distance
that arena pov has
but i play at max range
viscid remnant
t3 is just the same as tier 7
viscid remnant
Not rlt
tropic grove
t3 is just the same as tier 7
no
different color scheme
and the set doesnt look identical either
tropic grove
cope
viscid remnant
Shoulder
tepid spoke
aq is cooler
viscid remnant
Robe
Helmet
All look
Clearly different
On some classes the difference is bigger
Compare warrior sets
T3 is much better design
tepid spoke
i am talking strictly druid
viscid remnant
Warr t7 shoulder is like alibaba t3
grand mesa
Avatar makes Atleast orcs noticeably bigger
viscid remnant
Druid=gei
tepid spoke
blizz is losing the oportunity
by not making mtx mog for each classes
sailor moon mog for druid = insta win
viscid remnant
MY MONEY RAIN BLUE HENNESSY AND SAILOR MOON
grand mesa
WHERES my itachi skin
tepid spoke
itachi doesnt even make sense
that would make sense as a rogue
or something
druid = moon
sailor moon
tepid spoke
flin ell
slin
skib
i just need a fantasy game bro
i hate shotting people with a gun
if i wanted that i would be a depressed american highschool shooter
i think they need to remake wow
and make it 2040p
instead of 480
no cap look at nokhudon arena
literally looks like 2008 blade edge mountain
10 min games
i literally prefer oneshot meta
this is so sleeper
fair mirage
tropic grove
id rather watch this over rmp for the 20th year in a row
livid wasp
boomk*ns 🤢
tepid spoke
do u play ultimate radiance
even with tier
feel like it will never proc when i want to radiance
livid wasp
I feel like dueling a lot made me worse
in other pvp
cant I just be the best of both worlds
random patrol
dueling is a meme that will only help you in niche situations
being good at 1v1 is nice but not the end all
vernal peak
How do I use lifebloom when I have the double lifebloom talent? One on me and one on another, or just on whoever is taking the most damage?