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yeah i got helm
Traj
Fix it later enjoy 2pc now đ¤Ł
be grateful ur not pod
sounds shit
It's definitely more damage than 1 item being suboptimal secondaries
Stacks of agi far outweighs mastery I imagine
damn we suck again
Boomie is disgusting wdym
Like maybe not OP but
They always top dam on my shuffles
Even without starfalling
And dont feel super squishy tbh
I see tweets something something spam moonfire 80k dps
Iâm sure thatâs over simplifying
But
probably a talent change im unaware of then
idk what i was doing other than getting my ass beat
everything is ret arms
or lock spriest
down here in narnia
tbh i struggle more against 1600 unpredictable apes
but also only 424 weapon đ
than at 2100
boomy ele pumpers
yeah they dont seem very strong
just tanky
then again when im getting absolutely trained and my noobass cant kite them i sit in bear a alot
I couldnât quite get a knack for it but I think counter pressure matters. You already got armor from being boomkin the bear is just more hp and frenzy regen. If FR is down stick to your guns and blast.
Yeah go bear when you see CC on your healer / they popped a CD without a stun on you
But come back out at some poitn definitely
This is the 2 free trophies ye? Just once per character
yea
okay
idk why i got two
if i use one of those trophies on my pve boots does it fuck anything pve related?
like should i use one on my decay boots?
You get 2 cuz that lets you just craft 2 embellished items without committing conquest
It doesnt affect anything in pve no
Doesnt increase skill required or anything either
okay so the trophy counts as an embellishment and i cant add to my pve boots?
Brother
No
You can wear 2 embellished items, so you get 2 trophies to make the 2 embellished items you'd want to use in pvp
Cuz if you didnt get free trophies you would have to spend conquest to craft pvp ilvl items
They arent embellishments
okay i see gotcha
it just lets me use my embellished boots in pvp thank yo ufor clarifying
thats what i was confused about
Yeah I'd be curious about slimy boots in pvp tbh
With patch it hits for like 50k or something

I shoulda made slimy boots
FUCK FUCK FUCK
FUCK
Wdym recraft it
Slimy is a specific item
I made boots
But I cant just turn them into the slimy boots
why not
yeah
Cuz I'm not skilled
why not
I'm pathetic
patetic.
true
Make these
Idiot
Why did you not put the free trophy on it
Do it
Full send
It's gotta be mad damage
Ig it's 447 anyways
Trophy is just 3 ilvl
P sure I can make those
i thought it might make the difficulty higher, but id oubt it did
What are VE and AG?
vampiric embrace (spriest) and ancestral guidance or something? shaman
Ty
ur a gamer f2f never forget it
Face doesnât need it to crush noobs
Kurwa
Note the boomie #1
It's so smokey here
Currently have the worst air quality in the entire world
And I have bronchitis so it's extra fun
I have bofa
Hack
Cringe
Vault?
I only have 1
oh so a piece can be pvp gear and tier in the vault?
i thought it had to be upgraded to tier
And full conq again đŚ
shifter dc'd at start of game and rudars team stopped combat and waited for him
love to see it
Yes can luck and get pvp 450 ilevel tier in the vault. Pvp slots only ofc
I hit tier in 2 of 18 slots. Sample size small but feels about right
Gotcha. Saving my 1600 token for my last piece
Gg
eat shit
my first offer was 30 years not a day lower
told them crackas holla at me when youre sober
mood
Hi
is there a macro to cast heart of the wild and bear form?
or do i have to press 2 buttons
they're both on gcd
2 buttons ya
throwing up at work is a good start to the day because it means it. can only get better from here ^^

hope you feel better queen
looks like pain
thanks thyme hope ur having a good day love you
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You ever just feel like complete then you throw up and feel 100% qfter
I woke up today in the middle of the night to shiat diarrhea for 30 minutes
@tiny oar throwing up is good it means you got rid of something that was bad for u
I got a vers mastery helm on my balance dudu in vault (other items 1h and oh). Is it worth going vers mastery helm or go for the add socket item? Haste>mastery but I guess main stat is important early season
Ya that's pretty horrible did you go to the bathroom once your half hour was up


drink lots of water
that verdancy healing 
Is it a crit 1h? Cuz you should just pick 1h
If its not crit
I wake up take a shit eat and get out of bed
vers mastery 1h, wouldn't the haste staff from world PvP be better tho? I saved up sparks so I can get it
You dont need to be full haste, mastery is a perfectly fine stat too
And if you pick weapon you can get haste vers offhand for 5 trophies
And still have 11 more
Can do 1 or 2 armor pieces with those
That's a good point
So instead of having weapon, 1 armor, and 1800 conq to spend, you have weapon, 2 armor (potentially) and 1800 conq to spend
I like the way u think!
It's what I did, kind of, I'm using a crafted pve 447 dagger but same idea
Sounds like a plan, ty 4 the advice man!
f2f giga brainer
if i increase my view distance and see no result or difference
is that the max power of my computer?
i stop seeing increase at 8
Yeah they all stacked on me and the fdk was mad cleaving but dont matter
I planted in the middle of the map
It was hilarious
incredible rdruid gameplay 
Yep 5-1 lobby
so sick
Turns out the hpal couldnt plant and just vibe in efflo
I'm higher cr rn than I was last week of last season

I'm just 1800
It was pretty sadge tbh I started at 1600 mmr cuz of the great tanking
I did the 2100 to uninstall tank last season
can u be nice for one day please and thank you
im literally being nice
huge fan of face
always have been
probably my 3rd fav DG homeboy
so like 10 spots ahead of you
have always supported and never been toxic to my boy face2face love my southern american brother
shit with a name like jack black i thought you would be a brother
wtf are u on about
I'm loving this bro
good morning homies 
big vault luck today
Hi
vault is cringe
You got bear title?

You absolute psychopath
I tried one bear shuffle
The spec does all types of nothing
every other lobby there was a player purposefully not playing the game when they're on my team
cause i was a tank
kekw
true masochism
I kinda need to use my vault for PvE this week. How badly am I falling behind other people in the 1700-1800 MMR range if I do that? You reckon everyone who PvPs is pure PvP ?


Wowzers
Yeah but you're a gladiator player. I'm a player trying to get 1800 against all the other 1800 skilled players. Need every advantage (or at least avoid every disadvantage) I can
@formal wadi grats on bear title buddy nice work
you are not losing because of lack of gear advantage
What's the priority for buying conq gear?
I am the skill I am. It's so dumb to say "just be better" if I could I would
"Just be as good as rank 1s and then you'll be fine"
thanks friend
idk if i'll go for it again but
it was a fun experiment going for it once
it's always going to be harder to push early season and atm were only on week 2
just take you time, you will get it eventually
2k
it's brutal getting r1 range as a tank man a dude with 7 times r1 was going for it and failed
kekw
it's a lot of rng u gotta get good lobbies
gotta be a masochist
This is like when people tell homeless person "just get a job" it's pointless to say. I see I'm not going to get an sensible responses here so nvm
it depends what reward you're giving up in your vault
i mean if your pvp vault is bad to begin with
it'd make no difference
if ur giving up bis weapon or 2set tier for it
that's a significant power difference yea
u wouldn't be the first one lmao
every other lobby someone refuses to play when on my team
u gotta get used to that if u go for tank r1
im probably not gonna go for it this season anyway, at least not gonna tryhard it kek
feels good to get it despite all the griefing tho ngl even if it's a meme spec
is the haste/verse spear the only weapon we can get
get mythic djaruun
True. On some characters I only got an item where my precog already is so thats no loss
No for sure, its honestly difficult the spec sucks
What pve reward are u getting? You can have 6 or 7 447-450 items right now from pvp currencies. 1 more is very minimal. Idk what your question even is
Like wdym how badly are u falling behind. You're falling behind 1 item lol
I'm using pve crafted dagger in pvp cuz its just 3 ilvls down from conq anyways
How do you have 6-7?
Two from strife, 1 from conquest maybe and 1 from vault?
oh and one crafted with embelishment
unless I missed something?
At 1600 you get a tier token, you have 2 crafted, 1900 conquest is up to 3 items, 16 trophies are up to 3 items
So thats possibly 9 items depending on what you're willing to compromise on for pve/pvp
I bought 2 525 and 1 700 conq items, trophies went to belt bracers and offhand, crafted boots with precog and dagger with healing darts, and the 1600 tier token, I picked pve vault
Still using the pve vault reward in pvp tho ofc its higher ilvl
BIG TRUE
I have 8(one is weapon and other is offhand so pretty much 7)
So 6 was being conservative, I have 9 447-450 items and one 444 from pve vault
But damn if only I had 6 more ilvl on pants
I surely woulda 6-0 my last lobby
Surely
Oh ok. I'm not 1600 yet. And yeah I guess this week I get the 2nd spark needed to make my 2nd crafted
so that stacks up
Thanks
Feel like this game is so much better as soon as they remove the conquest cap. Why is it even capped in the first place. Do people just stop playing when theyâve got full conquest?
I think itâs nice if someone queuing rbgs 15 hours day 1 doesnât immediately get a 12 ilvl advantage over 90% of the pvp player base. Itâs also fun getting the incremental upgrades every week and having vaults be exciting to open but maybe thatâs just me
I think the cap is good too
It means there's no way to catch up though
miss a week due to holiday or whatever and you're behind for half the season
? Thatâs not how the cap works
Not because of the cap, because of the vault/sparks
but when the cap is removed, the vault doesnt matter much, you can just grind your way to catch up in 1 week if you want
I guess I'd be OK with conq cap if vault didnt exist
U can just rng loot sparks by playing. Iâd rather have vaults mean something for a few weeks rather than literally being a weekly socket vendor
Like ur argument is that if you miss 1 week within the first 8 or so of the season ur behind by potentially 1 piece cause u didnât get a vault, that doesnât sound like much of a deal breaker
If there's no cap and you dont play for a week, you'll be a full 20 ilvls behind people that did play lol
Idk
How much rating higher would u be atm if u got to swap ur cloak from an honor to a conquest from day 1 for free? Like 0, maybe 20?
Another nice part is you can freely play alts early in the season without getting fomo. Like aw man I havenât farmed my 12000 conquest on my main yet so I canât log into this other spec which seems like it might be fun this tier
I can be content doing my thing and then playing an alt for 3h on the weekend knowing I did what I had to do
truee
Never in my life, also you never asked me?!
ye, i can't lie playing the game is basically like reading a book
but shiat its a good book
Good point I do like reading tbh
i thought it might be up ur alley cuz i know u like 'story games' like ME or whatever
The one I wanna play is baldur's gate 3 cuz I think I'll have irl friends to coop with
yeah i wanna play that game too
and those games are way more fun coop
so that should be fun
did a divinity original sin 2 run not long ago witrh some friends adn it was super fun
I'm absolutely fine with them being socket vendor. I despite the vault for both pvp and pve.
interesting take
I like it
Especially when you add tier in. My main last season 3 capped every vault and didn't get any tier from vault at all. Was way weaker than others for weeks until I finally get 4 from catalyst
vault can suck a fat one
Maaaaybe 5% of pvpers had 4p before catalyst
Having bad vaults is never really the reason youâre âbehindâ even if it might feel that way. Sockets should be like 2k conquest or something
Most had like 2pc though. I had 0. So I was like 2-4 weeks behind most people on tier
Just cuz RNG
It's BS
I die at like 5 pushups now it's so bad bro
Catalyst is week 6, there are 4 vaults between season start and catalyst releasing. Surely tons of people just looted a different slot tier 4 straight weeksâŚ
Ye idk bro
If in pve people already way overreact and overrate the impact of gear
And it's cringe
I cant keep talking about this in here
real
In pve thereâs parses and sims that tell you youâre worse geared than someone else even though that 1% gear diff is like 3 extra seconds of uptime that you got during the boss
Feel like going 0/4 on tier from vaults before catalyst means ur behind like 20% of players, tied with 40%, and ahead of the 40% who didnât cap vaults. Just saying random numbers but that doesnât seem like a bad spot to be in considering unlucky vaults
I dont know my max
But i can do 1arm
Yeah and in pve people will be 4 ilvls behind the status quo and act like its the reason they are depleting 18s instead of getting portals
so bis feral weapon is some 2h from the raid
In pvp its even more cringe than that
Nah thatâs like #8 on the list. Thereâs also bad pugs pulling me down even tho I chose them, tank griefed my cds wth is this route, lag, my spec sucks, this dungeon is so overtuned even tho ppl have timed it +5 key levels higher same gear
start of xpac was promising but guess we're slowly going back to having to pve

Legit people going like "im 410 i can only do 13s for now"
Drive me up 3 walls
Nah Iâve had to explain to someone at least 5 times over the course of two weeks that his dps didnât go up just cause he swapped from haste to mastery, despite him testing on training dummies for 30 seconds
Thatâs my biggest pet peeve, ppl thinking a training dummy is better than a sim cause they âknow their rotationâ and also that changing enchants from one stat to another is 10% dps


gorecki got sin glad with 27% crit as a fucking resto druid never forget it
Yeah but 28% crit he woulda been rival like me, literally unviable+unplayable
xD
What are people crafting as the second spark item for balance pvp?
I dont think many people have crafted a 2nd piece yet, cuz it would have to be a tier slot and maybe they dont wanna risk replacing it next week from vault tier piece
How is it a tier slot? Isn't it either neck ring or cloak
Thats true and I havent seen anybody do that
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/us/demon-soul/thugonomicz
I.e he already has 2 neither of which is tier slot (big trophy)
bis feral weapon from raid this patch, top trinkets from raid next patch 
The raid wep is 450
And full statted
Just with an on-use dmg thingy
It's definitely bis
But like also
Very few pvpers will have it lol
what would you pick i'm kinda torn between go for a socket or just take the set gloves i'm playing feral btw
You want tier gloves
isnt the shoulders + legs bis and gloves kinda trash or should i just take it and use my token and wait till i can get legs
Helm is the one you don't want
So if you didn't get tier set in vault, you're fucked?

No you are just behind the lucky ones that Got it until you get it
Itâs 5% throughput increase for rdruid atleast
Boomy
Game unplayable without
Im not saying itâs huge but 5% here and there is still behind đ
Itâs stupid that itâs locked behind vault only for pvpers
Yup
Howmucg
I trust in face
Not gonna fight that 
Then 2%
Idk what im talking about tbh
I just pvp 
I was gonna shit talk that you had a 5 melee lobby but you said you were in your own efflo too in the middle and didnât care and now that got me thinking lmao
Its rly closer to 2-3% yeah. Which isnt nothing but its also not the biggest loss.
Idk I read the tooltip and i ballpark atleast 7%
Does any1 know if https://www.wowhead.com/spell=410230/undulating-sporecloak effect is nerfed in pvp?
When above 70% Health, heal for 973 every 5 sec.When your Health is below 30% the Symbiotic Spores embedded in your cloak expand, granting a shield that absorbs 23355 damage for 10 sec sec. This effect can only occur once every 2 min.
The pvp multipliers on wowhead say 1.0
Itâs nerfed and bugged
It checks whether youâre above 70 or below 30 every 5s
It got fixed
Oh they fixed it?
Nah they fixed the procrate
Or did they fix that too
https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/wiki/SpellData
Here is says the sporecloak is 40% value
I think the cloak is just bis if it doesnt get nerfed
If I were prog raiding Iâd take cloak lol
Well maybe not. Idk. I rarely died
Just go bear
Lol
Im wondering about pvp ^^
Didnt they give that a 0.6 multiplier?
0.4
Is the shield affected by damp
Idk if this is gonna suddenly make healers queue more. But glad theyâre still trying
Sporecloak is nerfed 60% in pvp
Yep
where did u get the info for that?
Im trying to find a list of pvp multipliers but wowhead is definitely not up to date
It is, youre just looking at the spell id that procs the effect, not the spell id of the absorb itself
410232 is the right spell id
oh fuck yeah ur right
@grand mesa i know they are trying but extra conquest like we are not capped in 5 shuffles anyway 
Gonna be good when they uncap it tho
And capping conquest or honor doesnât matter after like what the first month or two
Ya itâll be nice for healer alts
Def gonna revisit disc
If they reintroduce conq boxes
Plz reintroduce conq boxes
Yh that is porperly timing for it too
Or in s4 SL. They forgot to turn it on and the vendor is there for prepatch ptr but not live
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Also came out of nowhere in s1
Iforgor
Itâll make âem queue less 
Man people really mad at blizz for ow2 lmao
Well yeah the whole point was to make a PvE story mode
But people are saying wasted time etc. I think theyâre still adding PvE missions and shit
I was waiting for the pve co op stuff
I really like the world they made and the characters. I just Cba to play ranked ow. Would rather play cs or valo then
ow2 still alive?
heard absolutely nothing in ages about ow2
I thought they abandoned it like the shitty dota version they made
Still around
You will NOT slander heroes of the storm in my house
Gahahahaga
heroes of the storm was shit
sorry face
and fck Blizzard for not making Dota the biggest MOBA ever
and then shitting out hots
disgusting
their only job was to get icefrog into blizzard and let him cook. (that would have been the biggest spot where they could have fucked up with their decisions)
this shit went so far that they even made warcraft reforged so that every private map that will ever created will be their property
only because they feared running into a dota problem again
valve got the biggest steal with getting icefrog and creating dota2
Blizzard would have destroyed dota
If for no other reason than they donât know how to do esports
Imagine blizzard dota doing esports
100k prize pool at blizzcon
Compared to TI
Last insane esports they had was original StarCraft
And that was because they were hands off and let Korean orgs run it lmao
TI is the most hype thing of all times
yes
It made the pro scene very unsustainable and unhealthy for teams at some point before they made the whole dpc/majors system
But as a viewer
Top tier
First TI in 2011 or whatever was 1 million prize pool. That was unheard of back then
Closest was CPL world tour for 500k prize pool when they used a game called painkiller as their 1v1 duel game. Also the org turned out to be a scam. Fk angel munoz
I would leave the vod loading all day
To watch scythe
Hyhy's team
They were my favs
And then I'd watch their games a day late when I got home from school

Would we have ever known if things were 2ez4rtz of blizz had dota
Can u turn gear into tier this week?
dafuq. So the only way to have 2set right now is if you are the luckiest person alive with vault loot?
Yup
Isnât it great doing any content that isnât raiding
hahahaha
take this @rigid linden https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8814AF71CD00EB1B
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Can you only get Lesser Trophy of Conquest from buying it?
Yes
crap
but @wise valley said u can never get clone casts
lmao
LAKERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRZ
Kings honor, friend.
SYKE , gets on all fours does worgen shit
that 5-1 solo shuffle gave me energy
david wtf is that chads name
i wanna do a gif
ty
mike o hearn
love u cutie
Man i am dying
All u do is win win win no matter what
Dj khaleed
are Toxic Thorn Footwraps the best PvP boots? What other embellishment would I want for a bala?
Precog (statuette of whatever)
I don't reckon anyone's crafting toxic thorn for pvp
Slimy is just straight better
isnt slimy exactly the same only without a chance to proc the healing?
It's exactly the same except it's a totally different effect
It's just stronger
And the heal proc is a downside, it shares the same procrate as the damage so it's just gonna take away one or two damage procs here and there
ok thats good to know thx
But even in pure damage, toxic thorn effect is just weaker
Mind you, I dont think either is gonna be bis in pvp
Dosent this already exist? Thought already had it active
Healers need to get gold, get more rating than they normally would, get a special mount of their own or something. I'm not gonna play healer just to get 25 more counquest per game lol xD
or every 100 games get a monthly sub for free xD
I think the gold and easier rating probably only thing that will make dps mains just play healer a lot too
But meh. Can see them slowly just increasing incentives until itâs good enough ig
@rigid linden ye I was wrong
Only 2 feral players in arena rn are actually using clone
Huge
thats cause i cloned them all
cant cast clone when ur cloned bitch
gnite
uwu >3
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I Just want some of that rating gain when a dps goes 0-6. Hand both healers a lil +10. All the other dps get a 4-2 & +40. I want some of that
Imagine not using clone
Last time blizzard did anything good was 2004
And diablo 2 resurrected but they outsourced that shit

how does spriest go from 5% to 100% health
why the fuck every class in this game heal
except druids
????? fuck am i missing
Youâre not missing anything
They murdered offhealing for feral and boomkin but made everyoneâs stronger than what feral and boomkin ever did
spriest turn into cloud
all of a sudden full health
okay cool my burst cant even kill them
$15 sub btw
ye it gives damgur reduction and heal
I just want a way to have fun in this game
Ppl on the NA forums saying that Undulating Sporecloak has been fixed
Good
last patch I hardly saw moonkins in rbg now its again double moonkin each game
bunch of npcs
Fotm rerollers are fast
the aoe spec on boomy is guaranteed to get nerfed
but i truly hope they dont touch on much else
otherwise boomy will be irrelevant for another few seasons as usual
Aoe boomy so fun I swapped from feral
@quartz marsh do you reckon 2nd pvp embellishment would just be infurious boots?
Or like blue silken copium shit?
I saw some rank 1 boomie crafting blue silken made me cringe
idk bro i run precog boots
im sitting here trying to figure out what to craft next
but yeah prob most optimal is precog on gloves and infurious on boots
but yeah i think blue silken lining could be good, just depends alot
since ur usually kill target 9/10 cases
ur not gonna be above 90% hp alot
i got lucky with vault so im already 2/4pc, not gonna go for 4 pc regardless, not worth it in terms of what stats you lose and considering how garbage the stats are on tier pieces
yeah im crafting helmet with silken lining as a placeholder for now
with haste + versd
Wow, I just came here to ask what to craft 2nd
and seeing this dsicussion đ
also not sure which stat to craft... I feel like I have enough haste?
and more mastery would be more boomboom...
and which stat to gem/enchant... vers?
also apparently we need a new trophy of conquest per the week we wanna craft?
You get 2 trophies for free, just one is for helm/chest/legs
well I need a new #3 trophy...
I bought a 5k honor box and didn't get it wtf
guess I should craft it as legs then, idk why I only thought you can do ring lmao... guess they did it cuz of haste
Helm Helm Helm. Tier legs have mastery, Helm has crit đ¤Ž
Ohhh!! oops, thx...
also it seems I'm missing a reagent... primal-infusion type but shadowflame level,
how do u get it?
shadowcraft*
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itâs like that Drake meme. The second slide is mastery
do you use other animal forms as balance in pvp?
Bear
bear: only if ur healer is cced and they're going you or to fullhp defensives
travel: wild charge to a pillar if they're running
that's literally it
never ever cat = ded
I doubt youâd ever /cancelform casterform fly to a teammate right @vestal citrus
Just backwards disengage?
thatâs more of a resto thing
alr thanks
stealth is useless in arena nowadays tbh....
ah true
if there's a DH ur done for,
if there isn't, u pop out of stealth waste a GCD they instalock u
good points yeah wild charge is very versatile
I'm just worried about sitting in a squishy form for any .sec longer than necessary
Is 1h/oh better than staff for resto? Does the mastery from the 1h outweigh the extra int you get from having a 450 staff instead of 4501h/447oh? Is it pretty much equal?
Itâs probably pretty equal or equal enough itâs negligible. I like the mastery personally. Then thereâs also the 2h mog factor đ¤Ł
Most of your primary in a MH/OH combo is in the MH anyway
You dont get a 3rd trophy for free
Or do u mean spark/splintered half
You get that from a weekly box
You can only get it from the honor box if it's catchup
If you're not behind you get it from the weekly 'proving in battle' whatever
Malicia's hoard
I see, thanks!
But the trophy to make the crafted item 450 in pvp you only get 2 for free
For more you have to buy with conquest
Oh?
Ok
There are 2 different things
ooopsie I did not look at the conquest vendor xD
The spark is necessary for making an item to begin with, thats what you get a half splintered every week
yeah I got that one
The trophies of conquest are optional reagents that add pvp ilvl component
You got 2 of those for free one time per character
One for big armor (head, chest, legs) one for medium armor (waist hands feet shoulder)
If you want more you have to purchase, it's like buying a conquest piece
You get 2 for free so you dont have to spend conquest to make 2 embellishments for your pvp life
How do I get Enchanted Aspect Shadowflame Crest?
it seems to upgrade ilvl but it's lower than the spark
Thats from pve
You can make it 447 without spending conquest if you pve (thats what I did for my weapon)
question is... if I should indeed put haste,
and whether to use the high health mastery embel or another one
it's helmet
I have precog on gloves from last week
yeah I ain't doing that xD
(boomy pvp btw - solo shuffle starfall build)
Honestly, regardless of what you do with your embellishment
Just like rest easy it wont make or break anything, embellishments are all very small except really precog
yeah fair point
I did see one with a 100k shield tho... not sure if that's the pvp number
would be a bit op
last question... idk if that matters
but I have crit-8 haste-24 mastery-10 vers-24 speed-11
reason I'm contemplating haste or mastery is that we basically soft-cap haste already?
unless I get it wrong.. I'm thinking more mastery more raw dam, starspells get x2
but I see boomies going all out haste, some not... guess it's not set in stone either
we get plenty of haste and crit from talents... and in bursting wrath 1 sec cast...
clone procs basically instant... idk
guess it's negligible cuz we get conquest gear replace just more haste/vers
This might be a do as I say not as I do but spending this much time thinking on haste vs. mastery is kinda pointless. Especially when thereâs such a wide spread on stat distribution between boomkins based on preference.
Also by mid season youâre swimming in conquest and currency/mats so youâll be able to swap for true BIS when either a) the community coalesces around a specific loadout or b) you figure out what you prefer for this season
Just send the ilvl the tier helm probably bad đ¤Ł
Actually I guess for you itâs the helm or the other one thatâs crit mastery. So that I guess is a choice but one piece I doubt it matters
you make really good points...
well I started with my last season starsurge spam build that got me to duelist casually near the end of the season... don't judge I'm busy with uni... I need to be writing rn not crafting lmao xD
switched to starfall build got rival last week lmao love this season...
and the sweet enchant, can't wait. used to have the OG red đŚ
you mean do mast vers?
cuz ppl say the tier helm is bad and legs are ok-ish
only reason ppl did ring was for haste, but I already did gloves so prob helm
thinking a bit of mast will help but as you said
in the overall weight as we get conquest... it's not that big of a deal
Ya your gear is gonna turnover multiple times
And youâre probably not gonna be ideal anyway cause u just roll with whatever tier vault gives you
Mid season u can really pick what u want
true
and tbh I'm a casual.. .getting duelist / elite in solo should be doable
last season got 2.1 without even 2pc lmao
if I play actual 3s might wanna optimise BiS and such...
problem is there isn't too much boomy pvp info out there compared to some other classes?
i usually just armory the usual rank 1's
Boomkin doesnât have prolific content creators and resources no
Supatease puts out videos and u watch rudar gameplay thatâs about it
I wished to be one... not to brag, I am not that good lol
but videos / streaming was the dream for 12 years now...
problem is studying keeps you busy
yup I watch these so guess I'm in the mix
tip: studying also keeps you at casual ratings throughout the year lmao
my lock friend got tabard in 2 weeks last season while he was on school break,...
now casters are actually good so let's see how it goes
so far been fun and ez
can any one help i made 3 macros but it doesnt work in solo shuffle any one know why
/cast [target=arena1] mass entanglement
/cast [target=arena1] solar beam
/cast [target=arena1] cyclone
/cast [target=arena2] mass entanglement
/cast [target=arena2] solar beam
/cast [target=arena2] cyclone
/cast [target=arena3] mass entanglement
/cast [target=arena3] solar beam
/cast [target=arena3] cyclone
i think if i can get it to work it will put healers behind especially cyclone
shit i didnt save enough conquest to buy the item to craft a ring
so now i either wait until next week or craft helm with the freebie we got
What do you want the macro to do?
1st root then silence then if i keep spamming the button lastly cyclone
or is there better solutions
im trying to maake amacro for an enemy healer
while i tunnel one of the dps
You can use mass root and solar beam together in a macro at the same time like that cuz solar beam isn't on the gcd, but you can't use cyclone cuz the macro will get stuck trying use mass root before it.
Put cyclone on its own keybind homie
Cyclone is completely bonkers you want to use it more than just after root+beam on healer
if you use owlkin adept pvp talent and you're being attacked you get procs that make it nearly instant cast đ
so sometimes u actually wanna watch for when you do it, addon to keep track of diminishing returns helps greatly on knowing when to cycle to increase / relieve team pressure
oh yea
i copied a druids talent named rudar also copied his pvp talents one of them is owlkin
yup he's one of the highest rated boomies since shadowlands
although, do note there are generally two builds this season @split kite
an aoe / stafall build for solo, rbgs - also m+
and single target starsurge spam build for 3v3 / raid
generally speaking
also....
I did the epic bg quest
but didn't get a trophy of conquest......
so I can either craft the helm or wait next week for ring?
why would you need conquest for it?
the item to craft a ring you have to buy
there are 3 crafting items for pvp
we got 2 of them for free
the 3rd was for ring / neck / cape / something else
and we didnt get one
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...
its 525 conquest
so from now one we need to buy them
Oh my G... that's terrible
yea it blows
im def making ring
see if you get it in the vault, if not buy it, if you do, buy trophy and helmet?
I have full honor gear, elite tier shoulder and gloves with precog
ok so
it seems we are haste capped btw?
in pvp: 373 ilvl crit-9 haste-34 mastery-10 vers-35 speed-11
so idk if I should get more mastery as we gear conquest
boomy solo shuffle aoe build
100k dps burst đŽ
prolly 60-80k on 3 targets still?
id like to trade about 1k vers for 1k haste
Fuck vers
Now that Cylone/Poly/Fear are all the same duration, itâs wild how powerful Cylone is in comparison.
PvP talents for:
-fast clone
-high winds(damage/healing reduction after clone ends)
-undispelable
-donât flee, doesnât remove debuffs, doesnât break on damage, canât be healed
Raiku saying same thing
I swear they get a mage newsletter to receive their talking points
can u MD clone?

so MD, block, bubble, and trinket are only ways to get out of clone?
Since when can you md cyclone off ... Buffs yes but not the actual clone
Youâve been able to MD clone for a while
I mean I think itâs kinda nuts that the full duration of high winds apply even to super DR clones
But meh
That's disgusting
I think high winds is just insane q
Ya
Well and highwinds got buffed from 4 seconds to 6
Or whatever
So it feels way more impactful
They sit a full clone half clone and then they have MS for 6s out of it. Itâs nice
Also hi I'm new to this discord. Is there a particular channel for screenshots? ( I got a juicy one to share)
Also never tested but wondered if it dbl dipped against FW and disc since it does 30% reduction to damage and healing
should i triple socket my honored neck or wait for a conquest neck piece
cus i see hella people socketing the honor neck
Thatâs up to you
Ball out socket it
Also probably one of the latest things you replace with cq
oh i didnt even know that
Got bigger needs so you may end up holding onto that honor neck for a while
Triple socket b/c Iâm crafting that Torc down the line. Probs 4th spark
i wanna hold out on a weapon but thatll take forever
ahh okay thank you guys
appreciate the help
Np
Going boots, ring, Helm then neck for crafting order. Just delaying Helm Even though itâs âfreeâ just to lower the rng that I roll that tier slot in vault
But will eventually not run tier helm⌠but 4 set strong
i bought neck because it will be like 4 weeks until we can craft it
If they nerf clone I'm back to being the cooked loser that I am
Pls blizz clone is a way to fuck losera
wym are they nerfing clone?
no but ppl crying about it
they would prob just nerf high winds
Itâs that poly duration got nerfed but fear and clone didnât
guys i have bricked so many keys this week
Bricked my solo shuffle went 1-5 didnt have zyzz music on @viscid remnant
Tbh donât ever need to craft it. Can drop enough versa from other crafted slots. Head / ring / ring crafted haste&mastery will drop you low enough to be like⌠is this too much greed?
Shimmer poly gets me more than it should. I dip behind my pillar, still sheeped đ¤Ź
good morning cuties
Hi
nice thing about queuing heals is I dont have to deal with idiot tanks I guess
hello hope ur having a good day at work sweetie
poggg
Finally taking a shiat
is it me or is evoker so fucking bullshit against rdruid
what the fuck is this bullshit
that's just the way it goes ig
what embellishment are ferals running right now to use my shadowflame on
If you play reactive resin do they not get insta rooted/silenced when they firebreath?
it didnt seem to affect him, maybe cuz null shroud?
oh
its a stacking debuff
đ¤
So there are 2 spell ids for this debuff
One is the stacking slow
The other is the root/silence proper
But cant tell which one this is since they would always just purge 3-4 at a time anyways
Iforgor
Yeah not sure how to identify it without logging
poor zechey
What a waste of money
Spell id?
Get idtip addon

Whats up dog
Yeah itâs such a horrible feeling
âOh but your heals are instantâ
Girl my heals donât do nothing even when instant
đ
Reactive resin is ass
High winds with precog as embellish tho
Thats the truth right there
Oh no a milkman
giga brain play
It didnât on ptr when me and gharnef tested
Every act of purge counts as one stack. Whether itâs single purge, shamans greater purge, or fire breath
What I love are shamans screeching lately that their totems that heal get bopped and all it takes is a GCD or twoâŚas they happily purged us đ¤Ł
Is feral pve 4pc worth using in pvp even if it's mostly 424-431 ilvl? Or does the compounding 10+ilvls per piece of just regular honor gear (437 pvp ilvl) outvalue it?
I wouldnt use 4p with 424s
2p probably worth
Tho idk how is the 4p nerfed? Like just halved duration?
Seems rly weak
I'd use if its pvp ilvl but not drop 20 ilvls on 2 big items for it
kinda my thought too but didn't have an easy way to test/sim lol ty!
How much is that in freedom money?

but I also suck
@tropic schooner how is wow
basically that yea
I am playing but not that much
and no raid/m+ at least rn
some shuffle but pvp to me feels fairly similar in most situations
can u feel the cc changes
a bit yes not sure if I like them tho
but a full sheep isnt basically insta trinket anymore
what's a good stat priority for boomy pvp?
make sure you get tons of pussy
so when it gets nerfed you have something to feel good about
I dinked around with this AOE build last night in packed house for S-n-G's. It is a good place to start. https://youtu.be/Lw3ulkusi-o
moonkin looks so op now, he puts some thing on me that does half of my hp while hes stunned
I bet supatease is happy
Yea had triple boomy on temple in rbgs and could not get health bars to go up.
supa still gonna get farmed and say dumb shit
No youâre awesome
nah
is there anyway like i can have bear only skills be invisible while in moonkin form
yes
put them on the main action bar
there is also a way with macros
if you need more then 10
ty
can u tell me just incase i do end up needing it
can do [stance:1] for bear for example
also in the showtooltip portion if youd want to do that
thx
fuck this game
It's gonna be ok Zechey
(It wonât)


