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broken junco
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I got pants

wise valley
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yeah i got helm

broken junco
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Haste vers which alright I guess

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Could be worse

grand mesa
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Traj

rigid linden
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indeed

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wtf do i do

grand mesa
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Fix it later enjoy 2pc now 🤣

rigid linden
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i mean

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2pc tho

wise valley
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be grateful ur not pod

rigid linden
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sounds shit

clear pulsar
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It's definitely more damage than 1 item being suboptimal secondaries

grand mesa
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Stacks of agi far outweighs mastery I imagine

royal spindle
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damn we suck again

clear pulsar
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Boomie is disgusting wdym

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Like maybe not OP but

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They always top dam on my shuffles

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Even without starfalling

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And dont feel super squishy tbh

grand mesa
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I see tweets something something spam moonfire 80k dps

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I’m sure that’s over simplifying

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But

royal spindle
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probably a talent change im unaware of then

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idk what i was doing other than getting my ass beat

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everything is ret arms

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or lock spriest

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down here in narnia

rigid linden
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tbh i struggle more against 1600 unpredictable apes

royal spindle
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but also only 424 weapon 🙂

rigid linden
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than at 2100

clear pulsar
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Yeah spr is rly good too

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I dont think ret is very strong anymore

wise valley
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boomy ele pumpers

royal spindle
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yeah they dont seem very strong

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just tanky

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then again when im getting absolutely trained and my noobass cant kite them i sit in bear a alot

grand mesa
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I couldn’t quite get a knack for it but I think counter pressure matters. You already got armor from being boomkin the bear is just more hp and frenzy regen. If FR is down stick to your guns and blast.

royal spindle
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good to know

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is this shit weekly or once ever

clear pulsar
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Yeah go bear when you see CC on your healer / they popped a CD without a stun on you

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But come back out at some poitn definitely

clear pulsar
royal spindle
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yea

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okay

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idk why i got two

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if i use one of those trophies on my pve boots does it fuck anything pve related?

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like should i use one on my decay boots?

clear pulsar
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You get 2 cuz that lets you just craft 2 embellished items without committing conquest

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It doesnt affect anything in pve no

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Doesnt increase skill required or anything either

royal spindle
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okay so the trophy counts as an embellishment and i cant add to my pve boots?

clear pulsar
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Brother

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No

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You can wear 2 embellished items, so you get 2 trophies to make the 2 embellished items you'd want to use in pvp

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Cuz if you didnt get free trophies you would have to spend conquest to craft pvp ilvl items

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They arent embellishments

royal spindle
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okay i see gotcha

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it just lets me use my embellished boots in pvp thank yo ufor clarifying

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thats what i was confused about

clear pulsar
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Yeah I'd be curious about slimy boots in pvp tbh

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With patch it hits for like 50k or something

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I shoulda made slimy boots

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FUCK FUCK FUCK

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FUCK

grand mesa
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Just recraft it

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or did u put it

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On

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Wep

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Your embellish

clear pulsar
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Wdym recraft it

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Slimy is a specific item

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I made boots

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But I cant just turn them into the slimy boots

edgy shale
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why not

wise valley
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yeah

clear pulsar
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Cuz I'm not skilled

wise valley
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why not

clear pulsar
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I'm pathetic

edgy shale
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patetic.

wise valley
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true

edgy shale
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u wanted to make these?

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these?

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these?

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these?

clear pulsar
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Make these

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Idiot

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Why did you not put the free trophy on it

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Do it

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Full send

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It's gotta be mad damage

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Ig it's 447 anyways

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Trophy is just 3 ilvl

grand mesa
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P sure I can make those

edgy shale
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i thought it might make the difficulty higher, but id oubt it did

grand mesa
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I still don’t know where my half spark went

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Lulz

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Oh well

keen storm
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What are VE and AG?

edgy shale
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vampiric embrace (spriest) and ancestral guidance or something? shaman

keen storm
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Ty

grand mesa
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Face doesn’t need it to crush noobs

clear pulsar
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You got it wrong

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I crush on noobs

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Whatup cutie @grand mesa

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👉 👈

viscid remnant
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Kurwa

clear pulsar
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Note the boomie #1

broken junco
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It's so smokey here

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Currently have the worst air quality in the entire world

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And I have bronchitis so it's extra fun

viscid remnant
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I have bofa

gaunt flare
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how do people have 2 piece of tier already for pvp gear

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token from M+?

viscid remnant
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Hack

broken junco
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Cringe

clear pulsar
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Vault?

broken junco
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I only have 1

gaunt flare
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oh so a piece can be pvp gear and tier in the vault?

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i thought it had to be upgraded to tier

broken junco
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And full conq again 😦

wise valley
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shifter dc'd at start of game and rudars team stopped combat and waited for him

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love to see it

clear pulsar
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Huge

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You rly do love to see it

clear fox
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I hit tier in 2 of 18 slots. Sample size small but feels about right

gaunt flare
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Gotcha. Saving my 1600 token for my last piece

clear pulsar
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I got tier on a m+ slot on druid

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And did 1 shuffle on priest > weapon

viscid remnant
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Gg

wise valley
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eat shit

wise valley
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my first offer was 30 years not a day lower

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told them crackas holla at me when youre sober

tiny oar
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mood

viscid remnant
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Hi

shrewd marten
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is there a macro to cast heart of the wild and bear form?

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or do i have to press 2 buttons

surreal heron
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they're both on gcd

tiny oar
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2 buttons ya

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throwing up at work is a good start to the day because it means it. can only get better from here ^^

clear pulsar
surreal heron
tiny oar
tiny oar
clear pulsar
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Never talk shit about my haste build again @grand mesa

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Its going HARD homie

broken junco
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You ever just feel like complete then you throw up and feel 100% qfter

viscid remnant
clear pulsar
brazen mantle
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I got a vers mastery helm on my balance dudu in vault (other items 1h and oh). Is it worth going vers mastery helm or go for the add socket item? Haste>mastery but I guess main stat is important early season

broken junco
tiny oar
surreal heron
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drink lots of water

tiny oar
clear pulsar
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If its not crit

viscid remnant
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About 3-4liter a day

viscid remnant
brazen mantle
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vers mastery 1h, wouldn't the haste staff from world PvP be better tho? I saved up sparks so I can get it

clear pulsar
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And if you pick weapon you can get haste vers offhand for 5 trophies

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And still have 11 more

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Can do 1 or 2 armor pieces with those

brazen mantle
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That's a good point

clear pulsar
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So instead of having weapon, 1 armor, and 1800 conq to spend, you have weapon, 2 armor (potentially) and 1800 conq to spend

brazen mantle
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I like the way u think!

clear pulsar
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It's what I did, kind of, I'm using a crafted pve 447 dagger but same idea

brazen mantle
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Sounds like a plan, ty 4 the advice man!

tiny oar
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f2f giga brainer

wise valley
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if i increase my view distance and see no result or difference

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is that the max power of my computer?

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i stop seeing increase at 8

clear pulsar
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I planted in the middle of the map

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It was hilarious

tiny oar
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incredible rdruid gameplay tettleslul

clear pulsar
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Yep 5-1 lobby

tiny oar
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so sick

clear pulsar
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Turns out the hpal couldnt plant and just vibe in efflo

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I'm higher cr rn than I was last week of last season

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I'm just 1800

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It was pretty sadge tbh I started at 1600 mmr cuz of the great tanking

wise valley
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wow face ur so good

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low key inspo

viscid remnant
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Face did the biggest tank last season

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2.4 to deep mordor

tiny oar
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I did the 2100 to uninstall tank last season

wise valley
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he is still super good

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one of the best

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best ever

tiny oar
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can u be nice for one day please and thank you

wise valley
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im literally being nice

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huge fan of face

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always have been

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probably my 3rd fav DG homeboy

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so like 10 spots ahead of you

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have always supported and never been toxic to my boy face2face love my southern american brother

tiny oar
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mmmmmm

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okie

wise valley
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shit with a name like jack black i thought you would be a brother

tiny oar
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wtf are u on about

wise valley
shrewd marten
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pinned guide is running convoke instead of incarn?

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for balance

wise valley
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this was the best one

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dude had 0 lines of dialogue

clear pulsar
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tettleslul I'm loving this bro

stray sigil
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cringe xpac

viscid remnant
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wow=bad

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big true

exotic wolf
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good morning homies heybear

wise valley
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gm uncle

quartz marsh
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big vault luck today

viscid remnant
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Hi

real coral
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vault is cringe

formal wadi
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titles are out

clear pulsar
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You got bear title?

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You absolute psychopath

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I tried one bear shuffle

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The spec does all types of nothing

viscid remnant
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Soylo = not joke

formal wadi
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cause i was a tank

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kekw

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true masochism

clear pulsar
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More power to you

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What were your talents

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Thorns of iron things?

gleaming gate
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I kinda need to use my vault for PvE this week. How badly am I falling behind other people in the 1700-1800 MMR range if I do that? You reckon everyone who PvPs is pure PvP ?

tiny oar
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ur so true and real @vestal citrus ty for keeping it 100

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yea do it go

viscid remnant
tiny oar
viscid remnant
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Wowzers

gleaming gate
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Yeah but you're a gladiator player. I'm a player trying to get 1800 against all the other 1800 skilled players. Need every advantage (or at least avoid every disadvantage) I can

tiny oar
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@formal wadi grats on bear title buddy nice work

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you are not losing because of lack of gear advantage

magic dagger
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What's the priority for buying conq gear?

gleaming gate
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I am the skill I am. It's so dumb to say "just be better" if I could I would

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"Just be as good as rank 1s and then you'll be fine"

formal wadi
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idk if i'll go for it again but

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it was a fun experiment going for it once

random patrol
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it's always going to be harder to push early season and atm were only on week 2

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just take you time, you will get it eventually

formal wadi
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2k

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it's brutal getting r1 range as a tank man a dude with 7 times r1 was going for it and failed

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kekw

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it's a lot of rng u gotta get good lobbies

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gotta be a masochist

gleaming gate
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This is like when people tell homeless person "just get a job" it's pointless to say. I see I'm not going to get an sensible responses here so nvm

formal wadi
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i mean if your pvp vault is bad to begin with

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it'd make no difference

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if ur giving up bis weapon or 2set tier for it

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that's a significant power difference yea

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u wouldn't be the first one lmao

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every other lobby someone refuses to play when on my team

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u gotta get used to that if u go for tank r1

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im probably not gonna go for it this season anyway, at least not gonna tryhard it kek

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feels good to get it despite all the griefing tho ngl even if it's a meme spec

halcyon summit
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is the haste/verse spear the only weapon we can get

edgy shale
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get mythic djaruun

gleaming gate
clear pulsar
clear pulsar
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Like wdym how badly are u falling behind. You're falling behind 1 item lol

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I'm using pve crafted dagger in pvp cuz its just 3 ilvls down from conq anyways

gleaming gate
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How do you have 6-7?

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Two from strife, 1 from conquest maybe and 1 from vault?

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oh and one crafted with embelishment

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unless I missed something?

clear pulsar
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At 1600 you get a tier token, you have 2 crafted, 1900 conquest is up to 3 items, 16 trophies are up to 3 items

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So thats possibly 9 items depending on what you're willing to compromise on for pve/pvp

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I bought 2 525 and 1 700 conq items, trophies went to belt bracers and offhand, crafted boots with precog and dagger with healing darts, and the 1600 tier token, I picked pve vault

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Still using the pve vault reward in pvp tho ofc its higher ilvl

viscid remnant
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BIG TRUE

random patrol
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I have 8(one is weapon and other is offhand so pretty much 7)

clear pulsar
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So 6 was being conservative, I have 9 447-450 items and one 444 from pve vault

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But damn if only I had 6 more ilvl on pants

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I surely woulda 6-0 my last lobby

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Surely

gleaming gate
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so that stacks up

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Thanks

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Feel like this game is so much better as soon as they remove the conquest cap. Why is it even capped in the first place. Do people just stop playing when they’ve got full conquest?

velvet quest
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I think it’s nice if someone queuing rbgs 15 hours day 1 doesn’t immediately get a 12 ilvl advantage over 90% of the pvp player base. It’s also fun getting the incremental upgrades every week and having vaults be exciting to open but maybe that’s just me

clear pulsar
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I think the cap is good too

gleaming gate
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It means there's no way to catch up though

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miss a week due to holiday or whatever and you're behind for half the season

velvet quest
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? That’s not how the cap works

gleaming gate
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Not because of the cap, because of the vault/sparks

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but when the cap is removed, the vault doesnt matter much, you can just grind your way to catch up in 1 week if you want

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I guess I'd be OK with conq cap if vault didnt exist

velvet quest
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U can just rng loot sparks by playing. I’d rather have vaults mean something for a few weeks rather than literally being a weekly socket vendor

clear pulsar
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Last season I picked 2 pvp vaults total

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Cuz it was tier

velvet quest
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Like ur argument is that if you miss 1 week within the first 8 or so of the season ur behind by potentially 1 piece cause u didn’t get a vault, that doesn’t sound like much of a deal breaker

clear pulsar
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If there's no cap and you dont play for a week, you'll be a full 20 ilvls behind people that did play lol

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Idk

velvet quest
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How much rating higher would u be atm if u got to swap ur cloak from an honor to a conquest from day 1 for free? Like 0, maybe 20?

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Another nice part is you can freely play alts early in the season without getting fomo. Like aw man I haven’t farmed my 12000 conquest on my main yet so I can’t log into this other spec which seems like it might be fun this tier

clear pulsar
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Yeah

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Exactly

edgy shale
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wait wat

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sparks are time gated now

clear pulsar
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I can be content doing my thing and then playing an alt for 3h on the weekend knowing I did what I had to do

tiny oar
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truee

edgy shale
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do deez. u nevewr told me if u played disco elyisum

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boch

clear pulsar
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Never in my life, also you never asked me?!

edgy shale
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i did

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here

clear pulsar
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Shit

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I need that WASD action combat to stay engaged with a game bro

edgy shale
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ye, i can't lie playing the game is basically like reading a book

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but shiat its a good book

clear pulsar
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Good point I do like reading tbh

edgy shale
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i thought it might be up ur alley cuz i know u like 'story games' like ME or whatever

clear pulsar
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The one I wanna play is baldur's gate 3 cuz I think I'll have irl friends to coop with

edgy shale
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yeah i wanna play that game too

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and those games are way more fun coop

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so that should be fun

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did a divinity original sin 2 run not long ago witrh some friends adn it was super fun

gleaming gate
tiny oar
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interesting take

clear pulsar
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I like it

gleaming gate
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Especially when you add tier in. My main last season 3 capped every vault and didn't get any tier from vault at all. Was way weaker than others for weeks until I finally get 4 from catalyst

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vault can suck a fat one

clear pulsar
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Maaaaybe 5% of pvpers had 4p before catalyst

velvet quest
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Having bad vaults is never really the reason you’re “behind” even if it might feel that way. Sockets should be like 2k conquest or something

clear pulsar
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@viscid remnant pushups check?

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I died at 17

gleaming gate
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Just cuz RNG

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It's BS

tiny oar
velvet quest
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Catalyst is week 6, there are 4 vaults between season start and catalyst releasing. Surely tons of people just looted a different slot tier 4 straight weeks…

clear pulsar
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Ye idk bro

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If in pve people already way overreact and overrate the impact of gear

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And it's cringe

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I cant keep talking about this in here

tiny oar
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real

velvet quest
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In pve there’s parses and sims that tell you you’re worse geared than someone else even though that 1% gear diff is like 3 extra seconds of uptime that you got during the boss

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Feel like going 0/4 on tier from vaults before catalyst means ur behind like 20% of players, tied with 40%, and ahead of the 40% who didn’t cap vaults. Just saying random numbers but that doesn’t seem like a bad spot to be in considering unlucky vaults

clear pulsar
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Ok thats lit bro

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Love that for u

viscid remnant
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🙏

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Last time i tested max was around 40ish but on decline not normal

clear pulsar
livid wasp
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so bis feral weapon is some 2h from the raid

clear pulsar
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In pvp its even more cringe than that

velvet quest
livid wasp
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start of xpac was promising but guess we're slowly going back to having to pve

clear pulsar
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Legit people going like "im 410 i can only do 13s for now"

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Drive me up 3 walls

velvet quest
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Nah I’ve had to explain to someone at least 5 times over the course of two weeks that his dps didn’t go up just cause he swapped from haste to mastery, despite him testing on training dummies for 30 seconds

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That’s my biggest pet peeve, ppl thinking a training dummy is better than a sim cause they “know their rotation” and also that changing enchants from one stat to another is 10% dps

clear pulsar
viscid remnant
tiny oar
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gorecki got sin glad with 27% crit as a fucking resto druid never forget it

velvet quest
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Yeah but 28% crit he woulda been rival like me, literally unviable+unplayable

tiny oar
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xD

vast bison
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What are people crafting as the second spark item for balance pvp?

clear pulsar
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I dont think many people have crafted a 2nd piece yet, cuz it would have to be a tier slot and maybe they dont wanna risk replacing it next week from vault tier piece

vast bison
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How is it a tier slot? Isn't it either neck ring or cloak

clear pulsar
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No you dont get a trophy for the smallies

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You get 1 for medium slots and 1 for big

vast bison
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ye but you can buy a trophy with conquest

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i.e cloak trophy is 500 conquest

clear pulsar
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Thats true and I havent seen anybody do that

vast bison
clear pulsar
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Personally I crafted a 1h dagger without trophy

livid wasp
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bis feral weapon from raid this patch, top trinkets from raid next patch pepekarp

clear pulsar
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The raid wep is 450

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And full statted

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Just with an on-use dmg thingy

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It's definitely bis

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But like also

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Very few pvpers will have it lol

sharp widget
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what would you pick i'm kinda torn between go for a socket or just take the set gloves i'm playing feral btw

clear pulsar
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You want tier gloves

sharp widget
clear pulsar
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Helm is the one you don't want

real coral
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So if you didn't get tier set in vault, you're fucked?

clear pulsar
knotty surge
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No you are just behind the lucky ones that Got it until you get it

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It’s 5% throughput increase for rdruid atleast

real coral
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Boomy

viscid remnant
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Game unplayable without

knotty surge
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Im not saying it’s huge but 5% here and there is still behind 😉

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It’s stupid that it’s locked behind vault only for pvpers

real coral
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agree

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The 1600 token is once, right?

knotty surge
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Yup

clear pulsar
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Its rly nowhere near 5% throughput

viscid remnant
knotty surge
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I trust in face

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Not gonna fight that PogCat

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Then 2%

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Idk what im talking about tbh

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I just pvp LetMoonkinCook

grand mesa
clear pulsar
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Its rly closer to 2-3% yeah. Which isnt nothing but its also not the biggest loss.

grand mesa
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Idk I read the tooltip and i ballpark atleast 7%

vast bison
grand mesa
vast bison
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The pvp multipliers on wowhead say 1.0

grand mesa
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It checks whether you’re above 70 or below 30 every 5s

clear pulsar
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It got fixed

grand mesa
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Oh they fixed it?

clear pulsar
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Last night

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And they broke healing darts for half an hour

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Then fixed

grand mesa
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Is dbl darts still insane?

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with the dbl dip

clear pulsar
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Nah they fixed the procrate

grand mesa
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Or did they fix that too

vast bison
clear pulsar
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I think the cloak is just bis if it doesnt get nerfed

grand mesa
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If I were prog raiding I’d take cloak lol

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Well maybe not. Idk. I rarely died

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Just go bear

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Lol

vast bison
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Im wondering about pvp ^^

knotty surge
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Didnt they give that a 0.6 multiplier?

vast bison
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0.4

grand mesa
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Is the shield affected by damp

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Idk if this is gonna suddenly make healers queue more. But glad they’re still trying

clear pulsar
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Yep

vast bison
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where did u get the info for that?

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Im trying to find a list of pvp multipliers but wowhead is definitely not up to date

clear pulsar
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It is, youre just looking at the spell id that procs the effect, not the spell id of the absorb itself

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410232 is the right spell id

vast bison
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oh fuck yeah ur right

knotty surge
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@grand mesa i know they are trying but extra conquest like we are not capped in 5 shuffles anyway Kappa

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Gonna be good when they uncap it tho

grand mesa
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And capping conquest or honor doesn’t matter after like what the first month or two

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Ya it’ll be nice for healer alts

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Def gonna revisit disc

knotty surge
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If they reintroduce conq boxes

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Plz reintroduce conq boxes

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Yh that is porperly timing for it too

grand mesa
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Or in s4 SL. They forgot to turn it on and the vendor is there for prepatch ptr but not live

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🤣🤣🤣

knotty surge
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Also came out of nowhere in s1

grand mesa
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@clear pulsar

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What’s going on with this ignite dot lmao

viscid remnant
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Iforgor

hollow condor
grand mesa
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Man people really mad at blizz for ow2 lmao

hollow condor
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Well yeah the whole point was to make a PvE story mode

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But people are saying wasted time etc. I think they’re still adding PvE missions and shit

grand mesa
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I was waiting for the pve co op stuff

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I really like the world they made and the characters. I just Cba to play ranked ow. Would rather play cs or valo then

exotic wolf
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I thought they abandoned it like the shitty dota version they made

grand mesa
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Still around

clear pulsar
viscid remnant
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Gahahahaga

exotic wolf
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heroes of the storm was shit

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sorry face

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and fck Blizzard for not making Dota the biggest MOBA ever

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and then shitting out hots

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disgusting

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their only job was to get icefrog into blizzard and let him cook. (that would have been the biggest spot where they could have fucked up with their decisions)

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this shit went so far that they even made warcraft reforged so that every private map that will ever created will be their property

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only because they feared running into a dota problem again

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valve got the biggest steal with getting icefrog and creating dota2

grand mesa
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Blizzard would have destroyed dota

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If for no other reason than they don’t know how to do esports

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Imagine blizzard dota doing esports

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100k prize pool at blizzcon

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Compared to TI

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Last insane esports they had was original StarCraft

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And that was because they were hands off and let Korean orgs run it lmao

clear pulsar
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TI is the most hype thing of all times

grand mesa
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yes

clear pulsar
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It made the pro scene very unsustainable and unhealthy for teams at some point before they made the whole dpc/majors system

#

But as a viewer

#

Top tier

grand mesa
#

First TI in 2011 or whatever was 1 million prize pool. That was unheard of back then

#

Closest was CPL world tour for 500k prize pool when they used a game called painkiller as their 1v1 duel game. Also the org turned out to be a scam. Fk angel munoz

clear pulsar
#

I would leave the vod loading all day

#

To watch scythe

#

Hyhy's team

#

They were my favs

#

And then I'd watch their games a day late when I got home from school

grand mesa
#

Would we have ever known if things were 2ez4rtz of blizz had dota

gloomy nova
#

Can u turn gear into tier this week?

grand mesa
#

5 more weeks

#

Catalyst is wk6 iirc

gloomy nova
#

dafuq. So the only way to have 2set right now is if you are the luckiest person alive with vault loot?

grand mesa
#

Yup

rigid linden
#

i

#

found

#

the

#

secret

grand mesa
#

Isn’t it great doing any content that isn’t raiding

viscid remnant
#

hahahaha

rigid linden
#

❤️

junior plover
#

Zyzz nuts

#

Gotem

clear pulsar
#

Form

#

Are you playing wow rn?

#

Feral arene?

#

Cyclone spammer?

#

@rigid linden

rigid linden
#

yes.

clear pulsar
#

It' fucking mad

real coral
#

Can you only get Lesser Trophy of Conquest from buying it?

clear pulsar
#

Yes

real coral
#

crap

rigid linden
#

but @wise valley said u can never get clone casts

clear pulsar
#

Formy are you a precog enjoyer?

#

I fake mad kicks

rigid linden
#

ofc brother

#

i versed 2 shamans that game

#

and they both insta sheered

#

LOL

tiny oar
#

lmao

rigid linden
#

LAKERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRZ

#

Kings honor, friend.

#

SYKE , gets on all fours does worgen shit

#

that 5-1 solo shuffle gave me energy

#

david wtf is that chads name

#

i wanna do a gif

rigid linden
#

ty

viscid remnant
#

mike o hearn

tiny oar
viscid remnant
#

Man i am dying

clear pulsar
#

I'm a winner

#

Nothing but Ws

viscid remnant
#

All u do is win win win no matter what

junior plover
#

Dj khaleed

austere thicket
#

are Toxic Thorn Footwraps the best PvP boots? What other embellishment would I want for a bala?

clear pulsar
#

Precog (statuette of whatever)

#

I don't reckon anyone's crafting toxic thorn for pvp

#

Slimy is just straight better

austere thicket
#

isnt slimy exactly the same only without a chance to proc the healing?

clear pulsar
#

It's exactly the same except it's a totally different effect

#

It's just stronger

#

And the heal proc is a downside, it shares the same procrate as the damage so it's just gonna take away one or two damage procs here and there

austere thicket
#

ok thats good to know thx

clear pulsar
#

But even in pure damage, toxic thorn effect is just weaker

#

Mind you, I dont think either is gonna be bis in pvp

clear fox
austere thicket
#

Healers need to get gold, get more rating than they normally would, get a special mount of their own or something. I'm not gonna play healer just to get 25 more counquest per game lol xD

broken junco
#

Bruh

#

I have to wear a mask to take out the garbage

austere thicket
#

or every 100 games get a monthly sub for free xD

grand mesa
#

But meh. Can see them slowly just increasing incentives until it’s good enough ig

wise valley
#

@rigid linden ye I was wrong

#

Only 2 feral players in arena rn are actually using clone

#

Huge

rigid linden
#

thats cause i cloned them all

#

cant cast clone when ur cloned bitch

#

gnite

#

uwu >3

#

❤️

tiny oar
#

uwuw

#

nite formy

clear fox
junior plover
#

Imagine not using clone

#

Last time blizzard did anything good was 2004

#

And diablo 2 resurrected but they outsourced that shit

stray sigil
#

imagine cloning totems and pets to do dmg

#

clown design clown xpac

wise valley
#

how does spriest go from 5% to 100% health

#

why the fuck every class in this game heal

#

except druids

#

????? fuck am i missing

grand mesa
#

You’re not missing anything

#

They murdered offhealing for feral and boomkin but made everyone’s stronger than what feral and boomkin ever did

wise valley
#

spriest turn into cloud

#

all of a sudden full health

#

okay cool my burst cant even kill them

#

$15 sub btw

viscid remnant
#

disperse ?

#

problem ?

wise valley
#

arms warrior heals to full in bladestorm

#

yeah he dispersed

#

then was full healtj?

viscid remnant
#

ye it gives damgur reduction and heal

wise valley
#

oh cool

#

95% of all health heal

#

sick lay on hands

livid wasp
#

I hope theyll nerf moonkin

#

they dont deserve to be good

abstract edge
#

boomkins are spoiled all the time

#

let them suffer

livid wasp
#

I just want a way to have fun in this game

brazen mantle
#

Ppl on the NA forums saying that Undulating Sporecloak has been fixed

hollow condor
#

Good

livid wasp
#

last patch I hardly saw moonkins in rbg now its again double moonkin each game

#

bunch of npcs

knotty surge
#

Fotm rerollers are fast

quartz marsh
#

the aoe spec on boomy is guaranteed to get nerfed

#

but i truly hope they dont touch on much else

#

otherwise boomy will be irrelevant for another few seasons as usual

iron mist
#

Aoe boomy so fun I swapped from feral

clear pulsar
#

@quartz marsh do you reckon 2nd pvp embellishment would just be infurious boots?

#

Or like blue silken copium shit?

#

I saw some rank 1 boomie crafting blue silken made me cringe

quartz marsh
#

idk bro i run precog boots

#

im sitting here trying to figure out what to craft next

#

but yeah prob most optimal is precog on gloves and infurious on boots

clear pulsar
#

I think you craft helm

#

WIth something placeholder

quartz marsh
#

but yeah i think blue silken lining could be good, just depends alot

clear pulsar
#

Cuz tier helm is 500 crit 200 haste

#

Not cash money

quartz marsh
#

since ur usually kill target 9/10 cases

#

ur not gonna be above 90% hp alot

#

i got lucky with vault so im already 2/4pc, not gonna go for 4 pc regardless, not worth it in terms of what stats you lose and considering how garbage the stats are on tier pieces

#

yeah im crafting helmet with silken lining as a placeholder for now

#

with haste + versd

cerulean osprey
#

Wow, I just came here to ask what to craft 2nd
and seeing this dsicussion 😄
also not sure which stat to craft... I feel like I have enough haste?

#

and more mastery would be more boomboom...

#

and which stat to gem/enchant... vers?

#

also apparently we need a new trophy of conquest per the week we wanna craft?

quartz marsh
#

its rly not that deep

#

it wont make or break it

clear pulsar
cerulean osprey
#

well I need a new #3 trophy...

#

I bought a 5k honor box and didn't get it wtf

#

guess I should craft it as legs then, idk why I only thought you can do ring lmao... guess they did it cuz of haste

clear fox
cerulean osprey
#

shadowcraft*

grand mesa
#

CRIT 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

#

it’s like that Drake meme. The second slide is mastery

vivid garden
#

do you use other animal forms as balance in pvp?

grand mesa
#

Bear

vivid garden
#

never cat?

#

i never had druid max so idk

grand mesa
#

In the opener you’re cat sure

#

And prowl

cerulean osprey
#

bear: only if ur healer is cced and they're going you or to fullhp defensives
travel: wild charge to a pillar if they're running
that's literally it

#

never ever cat = ded

grand mesa
#

I doubt you’d ever /cancelform casterform fly to a teammate right @vestal citrus

#

Just backwards disengage?

#

that’s more of a resto thing

vivid garden
#

alr thanks

cerulean osprey
#

stealth is useless in arena nowadays tbh....

grand mesa
#

ah true

cerulean osprey
#

if there's a DH ur done for,
if there isn't, u pop out of stealth waste a GCD they instalock u

#

good points yeah wild charge is very versatile
I'm just worried about sitting in a squishy form for any .sec longer than necessary

gaunt elk
#

Is 1h/oh better than staff for resto? Does the mastery from the 1h outweigh the extra int you get from having a 450 staff instead of 4501h/447oh? Is it pretty much equal?

grand mesa
#

It’s probably pretty equal or equal enough it’s negligible. I like the mastery personally. Then there’s also the 2h mog factor 🤣

#

Most of your primary in a MH/OH combo is in the MH anyway

clear pulsar
#

Or do u mean spark/splintered half

#

You get that from a weekly box

#

You can only get it from the honor box if it's catchup

#

If you're not behind you get it from the weekly 'proving in battle' whatever

#

Malicia's hoard

cerulean osprey
clear pulsar
#

But the trophy to make the crafted item 450 in pvp you only get 2 for free

#

For more you have to buy with conquest

cerulean osprey
clear pulsar
#

Ok

cerulean osprey
#

OHHHH

#

I see now

clear pulsar
#

There are 2 different things

cerulean osprey
#

ooopsie I did not look at the conquest vendor xD

clear pulsar
#

The spark is necessary for making an item to begin with, thats what you get a half splintered every week

cerulean osprey
#

yeah I got that one

clear pulsar
#

The trophies of conquest are optional reagents that add pvp ilvl component

#

You got 2 of those for free one time per character

#

One for big armor (head, chest, legs) one for medium armor (waist hands feet shoulder)

#

If you want more you have to purchase, it's like buying a conquest piece

#

You get 2 for free so you dont have to spend conquest to make 2 embellishments for your pvp life

cerulean osprey
#

How do I get Enchanted Aspect Shadowflame Crest?

#

it seems to upgrade ilvl but it's lower than the spark

clear pulsar
#

Thats from pve

#

You can make it 447 without spending conquest if you pve (thats what I did for my weapon)

cerulean osprey
#

ahhh... I see

#

so I can just send it with 3/4 optional

#

I have the rest in

clear pulsar
#

You need 5 keys at +16 or higher

#

To make a enchanted crest for 447 item

cerulean osprey
#

question is... if I should indeed put haste,
and whether to use the high health mastery embel or another one

#

it's helmet
I have precog on gloves from last week

cerulean osprey
#

(boomy pvp btw - solo shuffle starfall build)

clear pulsar
#

Honestly, regardless of what you do with your embellishment

#

Just like rest easy it wont make or break anything, embellishments are all very small except really precog

cerulean osprey
#

yeah fair point

#

I did see one with a 100k shield tho... not sure if that's the pvp number

#

would be a bit op

clear pulsar
#

It's nerfed in pvp idk what the value is

#

Never seen one

cerulean osprey
#

last question... idk if that matters
but I have crit-8 haste-24 mastery-10 vers-24 speed-11
reason I'm contemplating haste or mastery is that we basically soft-cap haste already?
unless I get it wrong.. I'm thinking more mastery more raw dam, starspells get x2
but I see boomies going all out haste, some not... guess it's not set in stone either

#

we get plenty of haste and crit from talents... and in bursting wrath 1 sec cast...
clone procs basically instant... idk

#

guess it's negligible cuz we get conquest gear replace just more haste/vers

grand mesa
#

This might be a do as I say not as I do but spending this much time thinking on haste vs. mastery is kinda pointless. Especially when there’s such a wide spread on stat distribution between boomkins based on preference.

Also by mid season you’re swimming in conquest and currency/mats so you’ll be able to swap for true BIS when either a) the community coalesces around a specific loadout or b) you figure out what you prefer for this season

#

Just send the ilvl the tier helm probably bad 🤣

#

Actually I guess for you it’s the helm or the other one that’s crit mastery. So that I guess is a choice but one piece I doubt it matters

cerulean osprey
#

you make really good points...
well I started with my last season starsurge spam build that got me to duelist casually near the end of the season... don't judge I'm busy with uni... I need to be writing rn not crafting lmao xD
switched to starfall build got rival last week lmao love this season...
and the sweet enchant, can't wait. used to have the OG red 😦

cerulean osprey
#

only reason ppl did ring was for haste, but I already did gloves so prob helm

#

thinking a bit of mast will help but as you said
in the overall weight as we get conquest... it's not that big of a deal

grand mesa
#

Ya your gear is gonna turnover multiple times

#

And you’re probably not gonna be ideal anyway cause u just roll with whatever tier vault gives you

#

Mid season u can really pick what u want

cerulean osprey
#

true

#

and tbh I'm a casual.. .getting duelist / elite in solo should be doable
last season got 2.1 without even 2pc lmao
if I play actual 3s might wanna optimise BiS and such...
problem is there isn't too much boomy pvp info out there compared to some other classes?

#

i usually just armory the usual rank 1's

grand mesa
#

Boomkin doesn’t have prolific content creators and resources no

#

Supatease puts out videos and u watch rudar gameplay that’s about it

cerulean osprey
#

I wished to be one... not to brag, I am not that good lol
but videos / streaming was the dream for 12 years now...
problem is studying keeps you busy

cerulean osprey
#

tip: studying also keeps you at casual ratings throughout the year lmao

#

my lock friend got tabard in 2 weeks last season while he was on school break,...
now casters are actually good so let's see how it goes

#

so far been fun and ez

split kite
#

can any one help i made 3 macros but it doesnt work in solo shuffle any one know why

#

/cast [target=arena1] mass entanglement
/cast [target=arena1] solar beam
/cast [target=arena1] cyclone

#

/cast [target=arena2] mass entanglement
/cast [target=arena2] solar beam
/cast [target=arena2] cyclone

#

/cast [target=arena3] mass entanglement
/cast [target=arena3] solar beam
/cast [target=arena3] cyclone

#

i think if i can get it to work it will put healers behind especially cyclone

gaunt flare
#

shit i didnt save enough conquest to buy the item to craft a ring

#

so now i either wait until next week or craft helm with the freebie we got

clear pulsar
split kite
#

1st root then silence then if i keep spamming the button lastly cyclone

#

or is there better solutions

#

im trying to maake amacro for an enemy healer

#

while i tunnel one of the dps

clear pulsar
#

You can use mass root and solar beam together in a macro at the same time like that cuz solar beam isn't on the gcd, but you can't use cyclone cuz the macro will get stuck trying use mass root before it.

#

Put cyclone on its own keybind homie

split kite
#

kk

#

thanks for explaining

clear pulsar
#

Cyclone is completely bonkers you want to use it more than just after root+beam on healer

split kite
#

yea for sure

#

if i get a cyclone off it will put a healer behind

cerulean osprey
#

if you use owlkin adept pvp talent and you're being attacked you get procs that make it nearly instant cast 😛

#

so sometimes u actually wanna watch for when you do it, addon to keep track of diminishing returns helps greatly on knowing when to cycle to increase / relieve team pressure

split kite
#

oh yea

#

i copied a druids talent named rudar also copied his pvp talents one of them is owlkin

cerulean osprey
#

yup he's one of the highest rated boomies since shadowlands

#

although, do note there are generally two builds this season @split kite

#

an aoe / stafall build for solo, rbgs - also m+
and single target starsurge spam build for 3v3 / raid

#

generally speaking

#

also....
I did the epic bg quest
but didn't get a trophy of conquest......

#

so I can either craft the helm or wait next week for ring?

gaunt flare
#

yea same

#

gotta wait for ring

#

cuz i didnt save conquest

#

im 200 short

cerulean osprey
#

why would you need conquest for it?

gaunt flare
#

the item to craft a ring you have to buy

#

there are 3 crafting items for pvp

#

we got 2 of them for free

#

the 3rd was for ring / neck / cape / something else

#

and we didnt get one

cerulean osprey
#

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...

gaunt flare
#

its 525 conquest

cerulean osprey
#

so from now one we need to buy them

gaunt flare
#

and i have 325 conquest

#

yea

cerulean osprey
#

Oh my G... that's terrible

gaunt flare
#

yea it blows

cerulean osprey
#

no don't buy it save for weapon xD

#

OR... better..

#

cap and wait another week?

gaunt flare
#

im def making ring

cerulean osprey
#

see if you get it in the vault, if not buy it, if you do, buy trophy and helmet?

gaunt flare
#

i have 6500 vers

#

im ready to drop some

cerulean osprey
#

I have full honor gear, elite tier shoulder and gloves with precog

cerulean osprey
#

oh nvm I also have 6500 in pvp

cerulean osprey
#

it seems we are haste capped btw?

#

in pvp: 373 ilvl crit-9 haste-34 mastery-10 vers-35 speed-11
so idk if I should get more mastery as we gear conquest
boomy solo shuffle aoe build

#

100k dps burst 😮

#

prolly 60-80k on 3 targets still?

gaunt flare
#

id like to trade about 1k vers for 1k haste

grand mesa
#

Fuck vers

halcyon summit
grand mesa
#

Raiku saying same thing

#

I swear they get a mage newsletter to receive their talking points

edgy shale
#

can u MD clone?

#

so MD, block, bubble, and trinket are only ways to get out of clone?

cold sun
#

Since when can you md cyclone off ... Buffs yes but not the actual clone

grand mesa
#

You’ve been able to MD clone for a while

#

I mean I think it’s kinda nuts that the full duration of high winds apply even to super DR clones

#

But meh

cold sun
#

That's disgusting

grand mesa
#

I think high winds is just insane q

#

Ya

#

Well and highwinds got buffed from 4 seconds to 6

#

Or whatever

#

So it feels way more impactful

#

They sit a full clone half clone and then they have MS for 6s out of it. It’s nice

cold sun
#

Also hi I'm new to this discord. Is there a particular channel for screenshots? ( I got a juicy one to share)

grand mesa
#

Also never tested but wondered if it dbl dipped against FW and disc since it does 30% reduction to damage and healing

digital olive
#

should i triple socket my honored neck or wait for a conquest neck piece

#

cus i see hella people socketing the honor neck

grand mesa
#

That’s up to you

cold sun
#

Ball out socket it

grand mesa
#

I would

#

But I got gold

digital olive
#

damn you got the bread like that

#

lmao

grand mesa
#

Also probably one of the latest things you replace with cq

digital olive
#

oh i didnt even know that

grand mesa
#

Got bigger needs so you may end up holding onto that honor neck for a while

clear fox
digital olive
#

i wanna hold out on a weapon but thatll take forever

#

ahh okay thank you guys

#

appreciate the help

grand mesa
#

Np

clear fox
#

Going boots, ring, Helm then neck for crafting order. Just delaying Helm Even though it’s ‘free’ just to lower the rng that I roll that tier slot in vault

#

But will eventually not run tier helm… but 4 set strong

gaunt flare
#

i bought neck because it will be like 4 weeks until we can craft it

rigid linden
#

If they nerf clone I'm back to being the cooked loser that I am

#

Pls blizz clone is a way to fuck losera

digital olive
#

wym are they nerfing clone?

rigid linden
#

no but ppl crying about it

digital olive
#

oh about it not having a cooldown

#

man its been like that

random patrol
#

they would prob just nerf high winds

rigid linden
#

they should stfu, poly has had no cd for years

#

😠

gaunt flare
#

mages can literally blink while casting poly

#

but how dare we have cyclone

grand mesa
#

It’s that poly duration got nerfed but fear and clone didn’t

viscid remnant
#

Mage ffffff--------

#

unplayable

rain hazel
#

Isn’t fire doing unhealable dmg rn?

#

Why poly when ignite 🥸

halcyon summit
#

guys i have bricked so many keys this week

rigid linden
#

Bricked my solo shuffle went 1-5 didnt have zyzz music on @viscid remnant

clear fox
#

Shimmer poly gets me more than it should. I dip behind my pillar, still sheeped 🤬

rigid linden
#

bro

#

why

viscid remnant
#

Big throw formy

tiny oar
#

good morning cuties

rigid linden
#

fuck it i got 4 wins from them

#

idiot prots

#

smfh

viscid remnant
tiny oar
#

nice thing about queuing heals is I dont have to deal with idiot tanks I guess

tiny oar
viscid remnant
#

Just normal

#

But shorter day so pog

tiny oar
#

poggg

viscid remnant
#

Finally taking a shiat

harsh ore
#

is it me or is evoker so fucking bullshit against rdruid

#

what the fuck is this bullshit

tiny oar
#

glad I'm not playing

#

its klepto all over again

harsh ore
#

rdruid gets fucked by everyone

#

cuz dispelling is so free

#

yet we dont have a counter

tiny oar
#

that's just the way it goes ig

viscid remnant
#

Hahaha

#

Wow = bad

lone kindle
#

what embellishment are ferals running right now to use my shadowflame on

clear pulsar
# harsh ore

If you play reactive resin do they not get insta rooted/silenced when they firebreath?

harsh ore
#

oh

#

its a stacking debuff

#

🤔

clear pulsar
#

So there are 2 spell ids for this debuff

#

One is the stacking slow

#

The other is the root/silence proper

#

But cant tell which one this is since they would always just purge 3-4 at a time anyways

viscid remnant
#

Iforgor

harsh ore
#

Yeah not sure how to identify it without logging

livid wasp
#

bought 6 month sub

#

now im bound to play for 6 months

tiny oar
#

poor zechey

viscid remnant
#

What a waste of money

clear pulsar
#

Get idtip addon

clear pulsar
viscid remnant
clear pulsar
viscid remnant
#

Dont have

#

I have 30000 shekel

harsh ore
#

Yeah it’s such a horrible feeling

#

“Oh but your heals are instant”

#

Girl my heals don’t do nothing even when instant

#

💀

clear pulsar
#

Reactive resin is ass

#

High winds with precog as embellish tho

#

Thats the truth right there

tropic schooner
tiny oar
grand mesa
#

Every act of purge counts as one stack. Whether it’s single purge, shamans greater purge, or fire breath

grand mesa
storm hatch
#

Is feral pve 4pc worth using in pvp even if it's mostly 424-431 ilvl? Or does the compounding 10+ilvls per piece of just regular honor gear (437 pvp ilvl) outvalue it?

clear pulsar
#

I wouldnt use 4p with 424s

#

2p probably worth

#

Tho idk how is the 4p nerfed? Like just halved duration?

#

Seems rly weak

#

I'd use if its pvp ilvl but not drop 20 ilvls on 2 big items for it

storm hatch
#

kinda my thought too but didn't have an easy way to test/sim lol ty!

patent dove
harsh ore
#

I’m trash

tropic schooner
harsh ore
tropic schooner
#

but I also suck

white ore
#

any fun Boomy BG builds?

#

the standard pvp build on wowhead feels 'okay'

lime light
#

@tropic schooner how is wow

tropic schooner
#

tbh

#

not sure

lime light
#

i thought that u were playing

#

or u are playing but u dont have an opinion

tropic schooner
#

I am playing but not that much

#

and no raid/m+ at least rn

#

some shuffle but pvp to me feels fairly similar in most situations

lime light
#

can u feel the cc changes

tropic schooner
#

a bit yes not sure if I like them tho

#

but a full sheep isnt basically insta trinket anymore

stable otter
#

what's a good stat priority for boomy pvp?

wise valley
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make sure you get tons of pussy

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so when it gets nerfed you have something to feel good about

neon storm
livid wasp
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moonkin looks so op now, he puts some thing on me that does half of my hp while hes stunned

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I bet supatease is happy

gaunt flare
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Yea had triple boomy on temple in rbgs and could not get health bars to go up.

wise valley
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supa still gonna get farmed and say dumb shit

river solstice
tropic schooner
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nah

vivid garden
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is there anyway like i can have bear only skills be invisible while in moonkin form

tropic schooner
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yes

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put them on the main action bar

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there is also a way with macros

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if you need more then 10

vivid garden
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ty

vivid garden
tropic schooner
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can do [stance:1] for bear for example

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also in the showtooltip portion if youd want to do that

vivid garden
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thx

livid wasp
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fuck this game

stone breach
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It's gonna be ok Zechey

grand mesa
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(It won’t)