#pvp

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clear fox
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okay tough guy

wise valley
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Likes already coming in

pure tinsel
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My boy gonna be swimming In it

north grove
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id send a super like so i can get carried

viscid remnant
wise valley
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the sleeve pull is so classy

viscid remnant
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i do that at work

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cuz i wear esd shirt

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with long sleeves

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copying mike o trens every move

grand mesa
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@clear pulsar

viscid remnant
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WHY REMAKE SOMETHIGN THAT WORKS

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that guy has no life and no brain

grand mesa
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People have taint error issues with omnibar

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I personally don’t

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But I know face has so he’s not even running omnibar now lmao

wanton ridge
viscid remnant
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idk

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never had an error with omnibar when i played

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only bigdebuffs was problematic

wanton ridge
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First big pull of nokhud on 22, can't use barskin/si/frenzied regen unless click from spellbook, as tank, was fun lol

fair mirage
grand mesa
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I haven’t had any problems with omnibar either

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Tbh

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Bigdebuffs was driving me up the wall tho

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I also don’t inspect peoples talents and swap around like crazy like face lol

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Which is known to cause taint

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Have preset load outs I swap to and maybe change a pvp talent that’s it

wanton ridge
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Had a weird bug with plater last night on my shaman, everytime a hunter used FD in shuffle their nameplate would get stuck in the middle of my screen. But only theirs, I'd have a fixed hunter-colored bar in the middle of my screen ;x

grand mesa
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There’s hunter nameplate bugs

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Only affects stock nameplates usually but I’ve seen quirky stuff with plater once in a blue moon

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You look away from hunter until it’s off screen then look back no troll

wanton ridge
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I believe you, that means the game is smart and doesn't attempt to calculate nameplates that are offscreen

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I'll try that next time

grand mesa
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If u ever watch streamers flicking their camera like it’s a no scope 360 awp in the majors

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That’s what they’re doing

wanton ridge
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Instead of trying to fix it I just killed the hunter, I was trying out ele, just blasted them and it fixed the issue

grand mesa
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Also a viable troubleshoot

broken junco
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Cum

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²

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Cum⁴

viscid remnant
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nice

tepid sandal
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wtf is ancient teachings?

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monk doing dps and just passive healing for that much?

blissful belfry
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bro

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my friend doing an experiment

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managed

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to reach

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negative mmr

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the game struggles

broken junco
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Lmao I need to try that

wise valley
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Net has been cast

clear fox
blissful belfry
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PERHAPS

clear fox
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Is a heal spec, like is he bout to go win streak beyond belief ?

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With that mmr could 0-6 +200 rating all the way to 10k rating

blissful belfry
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he heal ya

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i doubt its actually that mmr, just a glitch

clear fox
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I mean just looks like some integer overflow value

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But don’t see why a small negative would trigger that, but it is an ancient codebase. Though yea probs just glitch

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He bout to find out or still tanking farther ?

blissful belfry
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negative cr achieved

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but it remains 0

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on the actual window

broken junco
broken junco
wise valley
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Smooth brain milk drinker

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Thinks you need@milk to get calcium

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Legit a lie sold by big milk during a huge dairy spike

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And they needed to sel product

broken junco
wise valley
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True water enjoyer

broken junco
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Intolerant just like the kkk or Germany in the 1930s an 40s

wise valley
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Absorbing the nutrients I need from earths own milk

broken junco
wise valley
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Sensational

broken junco
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Dudes allergic to cheese

livid wasp
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I hate these fotm rets so much

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why do wings not last like 8 seconds

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with their 1 min cd

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why am I even trying to beat them in duels

broken junco
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The more chicken wings you order the longer it lasts

rapid lotus
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reroll a pally right now

mortal wyvern
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any boomies run some pvp against rets? how is it feeling?

livid wasp
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I dont even wanna think

wanton ridge
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Me to the hunter who's lining me behind a pillar, in turtle: "jfc stop lining me" - "bro, jfc do your job" lmao

mortal wyvern
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watching awc got me wanting to hop back into pvp

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still don't have a pre made for 3s so stuck with solos

wise valley
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yeah

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patch feels nice

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did my first geared bg

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3rd in dmg

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what did they do to demo

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i fuckin shredded

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8m dmg

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SSM

wanton ridge
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demo is the new ret

wise valley
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not to mew

wanton ridge
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but it was always ret in disguise

wise valley
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clapped his ass

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felt tough as fuck but once his shield dropped my dmg ate hyim alive

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i gotta get those 2 tier pieces with mast

wise valley
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bro wtf is up evoker

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constant root

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how do i beat that stupid fucking class

north grove
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have u ever faced pres evoker + arcane mage together

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evoker dispell all ur hots with fire breath

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then u overgrowth

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and mage steal all ur hots

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crazy stuff

wise valley
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i just faced frost mage/dmg evoker

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granted i took a new healer with me

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but holy shit the movement limiting abilities

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felt like a fuckin animorph

north grove
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i got into 2 tanks shuffles

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prot warrior

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i went 3-3

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and vengeance dh

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where i went 2-4

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hunter died without using turtle

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AAAAAAAA

broken junco
safe heart
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They need to nerf turtle

broken junco
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Then the eat a shopping bag and die

safe heart
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shell too good

wanton ridge
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Ret/Fw/Rsham get nerfed, I go up 400 rating, what a coincidence?

wise valley
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@clear pulsar does sarena stack with gex or does it display same

north grove
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this breakthrough

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142k final veredict into 100k ferocious bite

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i was out on tranquility so i dont get ccd

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unlucky

north grove
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COULDNT KILL THE SKYFURY TOTEM

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ops sorry for the caps

stray sigil
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100k bites not super common these days

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prob a bt enjoyer

safe heart
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can only get 100k bites with convoke

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smdh

stray sigil
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i think convoke bites have to be so limp dick now

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4 cp bites and all

broken junco
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I am now for the first time since I broke my elbow going to try to sleep in my own room

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Instead of the room with q higher bed

broken junco
stray sigil
edgy shale
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some pvers, including meself, are on convoke buffed back to 5 cp copium cuz i swear to god

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absolute worst way to nerf an ability possible

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just so lame

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no1 wants to do limp dick bites

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it was fun before

grand mesa
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Convoke sucks

edgy shale
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it was gooid for pver

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now its horrible for everything

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and dead talents that used to be fun are a bad thing

clear pulsar
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Fuck Convoke

grand mesa
edgy shale
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having convoke be mandatory was lame, but having convoke as a viaable option for burst would be good

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especially for certain raid mechanics

stray sigil
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wrong

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convoke can die

hollow condor
grand mesa
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Buff convoke

wise valley
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lets complain about left tree first

broken junco
hollow condor
broken junco
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Sometimes i

edgy shale
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this screenshot is funny

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just spriests i follow crying about how shit SW:D is

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and it rlly is like wtf why does an "execute" with a legitimate downside do 20k

versed heath
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Spriests always complain. Can't listen to them.

broken junco
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Spriets aren't people

wise valley
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boys tomorrow i start outpatient

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for 7 days

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then inpatient

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yall my rocks

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hate all of you except machtig thyme and G

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except thyme i hate only a little bit

surreal heron
wise valley
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love u buddy

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u a real one

broken junco
clear pulsar
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What you got buddy?

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If you dont mind talking about it

wise valley
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bro

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im an alcoholic

clear pulsar
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Idk how to speak english man ok?

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I'm asking like what you doing treatment for

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Man

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I dont even know whats going on

broken junco
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Rehab

wise valley
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i have a drinking problem

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has impacted my decisions

broken junco
wise valley
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my quality of life

broken junco
clear pulsar
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Bro happy for you if you're on the road to get clean

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Huge rly

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Love that for you

wise valley
broken junco
wise valley
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i literally

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cannot stress

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howmuch i hate u

wise valley
broken junco
wise valley
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its a bit nerve wracking

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@clear pulsar ofc i love u to

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long time homie

tiny oar
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u can do it sunshine u got this buddy love you

clear pulsar
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Solo shuffle is so dumb

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This demo lock in mugambala

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Literally didnt put down gate at all

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First 2 rounds on my team

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I'm doing 6M healing to enemy doing 4M

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And 0 kiting from the lock

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On enemy team he remembers gate and circle

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And takes 0 damage

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ECKS DEEEEEEEEEEE

junior plover
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orange face

junior plover
clear pulsar
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Hi brother

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Welcome back?!

junior plover
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Just lurking

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Not playing

livid wasp
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is ret fixed now?

clear pulsar
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Disc is so ready to blast man

livid wasp
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2.4k jungle tonight

grand mesa
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Strrammm

livid wasp
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why do premade skirm groups get matched against random skirm groups

grand mesa
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Because queues would never pop lmao

livid wasp
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deserved

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would be nice if there was a 3s skirm mode too

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and in 2s it matched you with healer/dps or dps/dps

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guess not enough people play it

valid haven
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So how well do bears survive in battlegrounds?

livid wasp
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oh no a guardian player

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thinkthey survive well since they are picked for rbgs as tanks

stray sigil
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cog u a g

grand mesa
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@wise valley I kicked a 10 year straight binge good luck man. Good that you’re trying

wanton ridge
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Anyone else ran some rdruid shuffle this week? Seems a lot better than last week, either the nerfs actually made a difference or I play against pepega healers, but I'm going 4-2 / 5-1 / 6-0 every game lol

grand mesa
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Nope I checked the temperature on twitter and I’m seeing complaints that nothing changed so I go back to poe

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And debate OSRS

wanton ridge
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Do you use the new ring in pvp? With what stones if so

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I'm using it with my pve ones (freezing/blood/twilight) but it probably does nothing

stray sigil
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its shit

wanton ridge
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Even the healing ones? I guess they added a pvp multipler that reduces everything uh

grand mesa
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Wouldn’t mess with it

livid wasp
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why would anyone play something like runescape over something proper like POE

surreal heron
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because osrs fun

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poe bad

livid wasp
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runescape was the game you played as a kid when your parents wouldnt buy wow

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or your pc couldnt run anything else

grand mesa
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Seems like a nice vibe. Chill. Fill bars. Long term goals

livid wasp
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it looks so ugly

surreal heron
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ok, i play the game to have fun not to look good

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there are also hd plugins but still looks meh

grand mesa
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Idk I increasingly chafe at the idea of seasonal in MMOs

surreal heron
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yeah, it's more of something you plan on dumping a lot of time into

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instead of a couple weeks every 6 months

stray sigil
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i dont even think osrs looks bad lol

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but obviously nostalgia plays a factor for me

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cuz its my childhood game

surreal heron
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not the worst looking game, but i wouldn't put it's graphics as a selling point to brand new players

livid wasp
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it was fun, playing with friends who came over after school

grand mesa
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Does stuff reset? Like how wows gear essentially resets every tier

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I get the impression it doesn’t

surreal heron
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no

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new raids drop but old gear is still good

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there's also leagues that are completely separate from the main game

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it's osrs' seasonal content

grand mesa
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That sounds like how old MMOs used to be

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And tbh I think that’s better

livid wasp
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my cousin played vanilla wow and bullied me for only playing runescape VerySadCat

surreal heron
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yeah "old content" is practically used as stepping stones because they drop in price and become more available to people

stray sigil
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old gear is like bis for so long cuz

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bis gear is expensive

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and its not like

surreal heron
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but all 4 raids have their respective use cases, it's not like they're outdated

stray sigil
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that big a difference

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like bandos torva is like a couple max hits

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for like what

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1b difference

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obvisouly

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tbow/shadow

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kinda different

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but ye

safe heart
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Why did they remove rake stun from resto druid

livid wasp
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it was too toxic

stray sigil
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didnt

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its a bug

safe heart
livid wasp
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I sometimes wake up at night sweaty when I have those rdruid/destro 2s nightmares

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with those rake stun resets

stray sigil
grand mesa
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I miss 2s

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It’s dead

viscid remnant
safe heart
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I play some 2s on my rdruid with friends every here and again but I have 343 ilvl or whatever and I just die to auto attacks

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And then I unsub again

grand mesa
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Why don’t u go AH and buy the greens for full 398 Atleast lol

safe heart
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I have some of them I believe

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It's hard to get conquest as a new player

tiny oar
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just full honor gear at least

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otherwise ur just asking to get buried 6 ft under

viscid remnant
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FOKIN ELL INNIT

fair mirage
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hey look s keying bm hunter with 2300 games played at 2k for the 10th season in a row

grand mesa
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Just @hollow condor next time

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But tbh Im generally a 2s Andy rdruid

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Is that any better

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🤣

fair mirage
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actually annoying how saturated it can become

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queue up some seasons and it's unironically 90% rdruid + hunter/rogue

grand mesa
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Ya we were dh rdruid fighting against all odds against meta scum

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@stray sigil

stray sigil
celest basin
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hows arenas now post nerfs?

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just logged on curious what you guys think before I que up

junior plover
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Bedge how i sleep knowing Polska gurom is going to CSGO major

safe heart
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Arenas are dead ever since they buffed shuffle from 0 to 1

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Hope that helps

celest basin
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no idea what u mean by that shuffle is not fun to play so I avoid it

safe heart
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As you should

tepid sandal
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finally got it and lemme tell you... it was not fun

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solo shuffling with complete degenerates as a healer is hell's seventh seal

forest kite
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What got nerfed with arena?

fair mirage
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Another player defying all odds and pushing his first glad in the span of a few days

fair mirage
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Handful more Frost Mages and of course Demo Warlocks.

tardy hare
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He must be really good

grand mesa
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It just clicked mid season

safe heart
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Imagine being so good at pvp that you can not only get glad in dragonflight but also with a deadweight teammate

loud swallow
broken junco
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Sunlight is good for the bones

wise valley
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Sunshine hella healthy

celest basin
celest basin
north grove
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im pushing too
towards the bottom

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lmao

viscid remnant
north grove
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and they say one can not be that bad

tardy hare
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Mans dedicated

viscid remnant
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i would have to be admitted to a psyche ward after that many shuffles

edgy shale
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thats a lot of shuff

north grove
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i reach 1800 and then i go back to 1400 ish

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but im learning

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ive been learning that its all my fault and that i need to heal more

livid wasp
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im havign so much unfun with 3s

stray sigil
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this u zechey

livid wasp
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ret is still broken

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did they forget to add the nerfs

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how is this guy like that in shuffle but 2050 in 3s

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2k is way harder than 2.4k in shuffle

wanton ridge
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:(

stray sigil
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hes got like 4 druids never been above 1800 on all of them

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i would assume he got carried or something

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ye

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his highest druid ever 1800

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and hes got some sus winrates in general

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idk hes sussin me out

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look at these wrs

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and then his warrior is 2.4

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with a dec wr

fair mirage
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ya probs pilot

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2400 with 100 games

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and bricked 1400 wr shuff

stray sigil
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but ig hge got some xp

fair mirage
stray sigil
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on other classes

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just kinda sus

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2.7 rog hard stuck 1.4 on feral

wanton ridge
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trying to use daggers with paws might result in weird results

fair mirage
stray sigil
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oh hers a boomer

fair mirage
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hasn't played since wotlk

stray sigil
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ye

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he got his rating xp in wotlk

fair mirage
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honestly acc this old just looks bought

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or maybe recovered from a million years ago

edgy shale
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warrior is incredibly overpowered

stray sigil
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so true pod

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let em know

wanton ridge
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they even have an ability called "Overpower"

stray sigil
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whats so good about warrior @edgy shale

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lay it on me

edgy shale
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its broken

fair mirage
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fed a retwarr their glad win last night

stray sigil
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but why

fair mirage
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twice

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i wanna die

stray sigil
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we need to know why @edgy shale

fair mirage
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ya 100 games to 2400 3s with no exp is like

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hm

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not even a jacked friend gonna manage that

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even on a spec like ret

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sheesh

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no ping-ponging around just below win cutoff

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probs 2400 next session had a weird bunch of mishaps

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hadn't queued since ret rework so super dusty

livid wasp
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I beat the tommyferal guy but he didnt feel like a 1.7k shuffle feral

fair mirage
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i duel a 2500 ret and a full second later he uses wings and throws every button into my teammate

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i hate this season so much

livid wasp
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why does blizzard allow rmp to always be so broken

wanton ridge
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aren't they making it less broken in 10.1

livid wasp
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guess so with blind nerf

fair mirage
livid wasp
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not this one

wanton ridge
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should be able to buy those BoA honor tokens from honor vendor :(

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(directly)

fair mirage
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The issue with those is that the honor gained is counted as normal honor and you'd just be able to buy it, use it, and use that honor to buy more.

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It wouldn't be a hard thing to fix but each char needs 10k honor max per season which is

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acceptable

edgy shale
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incorrect

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cuz warrior is op

wanton ridge
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poor guy

fair mirage
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warr underpower (lost awc) buff pls also mag nerfs when

north grove
livid wasp
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everyone cries about demo when aff lock is the real problem

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those dots are so stupid, everyone just dies

north grove
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on shadowlands ppl learn how to deal with it

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they would LOS during dark glare/rapid contagion stuff

livid wasp
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those dots just kill you while lossing

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maybe we still gotta los darkglare

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should look out for it

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but I dont think its what is killing us

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those dots just burn everyone down

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with ele nuking in the background its even worse

livid wasp
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I dont have nearly as many probs against them

stone breach
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whenever y'all link random profiles and say they got boosted to glad, it makes me wonder what people think when they look at my check-pvp KEKW

stone breach
hollow condor
grand mesa
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Lol they nerfed starsurge

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In pvp

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Highwinds goes up to 6s tho that’s interesting

north grove
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im playing LSD

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its fun

grand mesa
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as in screenshots

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and can't open links?

edgy shale
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cap

stray sigil
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@edgy shale how u liking our tier set

wise valley
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so much paper work

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my wrist hurtin

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unkie never steppin out the kitchen cus his wrist too sweet

stone breach
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Holy shit, high winds buff seems kinda big imo

wise valley
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yeah

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2s can be huge

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entire ret rotation can be done in that time

clear pulsar
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Enough time to make a baby

wise valley
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what is that tiktok video/pic

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of the dude with the pushed out lips

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exaggereted cheek bones and shit

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i need to know

wise valley
clear pulsar
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Bro idk how much water you drank before

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But like its so huge and nice for just feeling well

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Hydro homies frfr

wise valley
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not alot

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mostly just orange juice

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pineapple juice

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lemon water only now

tiny oar
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good morning fellow pvpers

broken junco
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Its 8pm

tiny oar
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10pm here

broken junco
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Thats

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Not any better

tiny oar
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ah well

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time to go to work ._.

wise valley
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nice

wise valley
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@stray sigil former r1 washed fuji

stray sigil
grand mesa
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mmhmrm

tiny oar
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very mmhmrm

clear pulsar
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Bruh

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This ret went 3-0 on enemy team

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Then someone left

tiny oar
tiny oar
clear pulsar
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I refuse to answer that

tiny oar
clear pulsar
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I'm 0-3

clear pulsar
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I'm quitting druid forever

broken junco
stray sigil
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we wait next xpac for another rework

broken junco
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Four tops go so hard

stray sigil
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wadf is a four tops

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like four loko?

stray sigil
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that looks ancient

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how old is that

broken junco
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Fuji has the caught tbe regards

broken junco
tiny oar
wise valley
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thugonomicz rising up the ladder

edgy shale
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we dont do the same drugs no mo

wise valley
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boys

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1 entire day

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tonight i will be falling asleep sober

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dreaming of all your ppretty faces

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except former r1 washed pvper current paladin level fuji

broken junco
wise valley
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more power to you

wise valley
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that used to be when someone handed me a non alcoholic drink

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utter disbelief

broken junco
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John Dunn was such a legend

wanton ridge
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Interesting fact, he did not drink

tiny oar
clear pulsar
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I stay taking Ls

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Sent 2 conq boxes to priest

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2 trinkets

edgy shale
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o that sounds perfect cuz there's 2 trinket slots

tiny oar
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jesus pod

clear pulsar
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Lake I think you got it right

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What I need is to free myself from this prison that is being nelf

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I think I need to buy race change

tiny oar
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DO IT

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MALE TROLL BABY

edgy shale
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i play zanaldari male troll

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so tru

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u agree with pod

tiny oar
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TRUE POD

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MAYBE WE CAN BE FRIENDS AFTER ALL

viscid remnant
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Bro

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Its

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Mid april

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And theres hail

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My fucking ICE literally how???

heady meteor
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I always wondered if it snowed in israel

viscid remnant
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Only on the really north

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But its super rare

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Where i live

livid wasp
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here its super warm for mid april

thorny venture
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So a new pvp spell was data mined for druid. A bit weird druid would get a cosmic gravity spell

grand mesa
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@north grove how was your sesh?

lime light
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was same for me

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one day snowy and the next day its 20*C

grand mesa
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Face found it

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No clue if it’s real lol

thorny venture
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It was data mined at least

grand mesa
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Could be an old idea that popped in and they dropped the idea. Who knows

thorny venture
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3s cast is an eternity too

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Might be rbg useful

brazen panther
clear pulsar
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Man I was so mad when I made a paladin and found out that didnt exist as I was leveling

clear fox
# north grove some wild 1400ish gameplay its easy to go 6-0 or 5-1, but its also easy to go 0...

Overall looking way better than 1.4k for sure, felt more of small things to improve on over some BIG themes that need direct attention. If you've got more games Ill watch more.

I generally don’t like to open with cat form anything in shuffle, It can work out but its real high risk. In two of your rounds you open with cat damage and insta eat cc and have to trinket. Much safer to just be boring and pve from range to ensure everyones fully hotted for the open

Some moments when youre re-hotting you don’t put LB on someone first. Always go Lifebloom first for that 3x mastery stack

Cenward -> Swiftemend. Not always but I saw a few opportunities that you could have gotten the big cenward extend that were passed missed

Positioning, overall very good staying near pillars but feels like sometimes you have a lot of dead gcds while running. More practice with them binds should help

Also talents. I've never met some shuffle lobby that can stay in efflorecense/verdancy. I generally run nourish in most lobbies, unless its some 3 melee zug, or at Blades Edge. Nourish just a nice bail out button, especially if youre playing tree stacks up quick. Your left side also seems sus, moonkin form a dead point. Id run these and macro in natures vigil into natures swiftness & nourish. Unless its vs pets youll be doing ~300k damage per round passively.

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grand mesa
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Ya he’s def better than 1.3 or whatever rating he played at lol

grand mesa
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He was also playing with 8% mastery

clear fox
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I was expecting some wild moves given the mmr, but was real solid. Then again was 1850? Before 10.0.7 dropped

clear fox
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@north grove I just pulled your char sheet. We need to talk

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@north grove

grand mesa
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It’s sad but I watched his games and noticed and quite enjoyed the pace. Rdruid looks fine when the dps players in there are doing half the damage they should 🤣🤣🤣. Makes me somewhat cope about 10.1

clear fox
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you have a stam mastery gem in your ring?! Keen nelthalrite let’s see it

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Peak greed stats

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@north grove with all your M+ score/primals... You must have some pve gear right? Like you've gotta have a lariat/signet with haste/mastery for moonkin stuff? Slap those bad boys on. Tier the feet to get the versa/mastery version, if you want to greed do the same with the belt (haste/mast). Also could look at getting the 421 drakebreaker wrists from the world quest... but this deep into the season probs not worth it

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For pve resto haste king right, but pvp mastery for throughput is my fav stat

grand mesa
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Poor bandido gonna wake up to so many pings lmaoooo. He’s got the best mental here tho imo

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Just plays

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And tries to get better

clear fox
grand mesa
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Meh I don’t expect anything radical at this point. What u pray for us that raid resto is dogshit

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And we get bystander effect aura buffs

clear fox
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Id be happy with nourish on omen and like a few % increases here and there

grand mesa
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All of beta and early DF we were top in raid and m+ and we copped alot of nerfs from Pve in addition to pvp nerfs lol

clear fox
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or just a better way to get to photo. Circle makes me feel like I'll be perma global locked, deep focus seems meh for 3s and invig is just sad. Let me make a 12 second omega invigorate and be op

grand mesa
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Rejuv got nerfed by 15% in beta. Sotf used to be 200% for regrowth and 75% for wild growth that got nerfed in beta cause our 4pc tier with WG was cranking.

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Just tragedy

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I hope they delete invig or massive rework. They planted it in middle of the good shit to try and promote use and it’s still not picked in pvp raid or m+

clear fox
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I was trying to play it, then a hunter tranq shoted 3 juiced hots

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insta round loss, untalented and said never again

grand mesa
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I was big on invig in beta

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I liked it a lot

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But invig felt way worse as time went on

clear fox
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I should also post a shuff, feels like I'm near a wall and dont really know where to look to find significant improvement. I know I can improve a lil everywhere, but probs would be good to have a lil roast and feel shame for walking into narnia or eating easy cc

grand mesa
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But I was invigorating on kidney shots and maims in beta before I ate CC and it felt fucking great

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Idk why it got so shitty lol

clear fox
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Feels like might be budding nerf

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Invig to max stack it and as long as you rolled the bloom still had big hps going ?

grand mesa
clear fox
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Feels like the inflation is starting to ramp up, so was considering making a run for glad. Though feels like would need to be just a lil better overall to get there… along with finding people

grand mesa
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Don’t care about glad just make shuffle fun. Really like playing on my own terms

wanton ridge
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I played ele last night, what the actual fuck is that spec? Lmao

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115k earth shock?

grand mesa
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Idk u shit out dam

wanton ridge
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there was one game I did like 8 mil, that's more than the other team combined, just pressing instants the whole game lol

grand mesa
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That’s ele lol

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Only having shift kinda dookie tho

wanton ridge
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Yeah I had issues against ret/warrior teams who were riding me

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I was not good at creating space, trying to line shift with their cds, and earth ele but it is not enough I found

clear fox
wanton ridge
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I'm not sure, with the build I'm playing it'd be an instant lava burst + an overload + huge earth shock crit. But I have no clue what I'm doing so maybe there's something else lol

clear fox
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Just pulled the Talent tree, looks like was just some giga cheese build and wasn’t watching for the big ele blast cast

wise valley
wanton ridge
wise valley
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ahh

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what is best class for hardcore

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im thinking rogue

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for sprint+vanish

grand mesa
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Classic hardcore ?

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I imagine hunter and frost mage pretty chill

wanton ridge
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warlock easy mode too

wise valley
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yeah i played mage on normal classic

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grinding mobs actually no cap safer than dungeons and shit for leveling

wanton ridge
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Until you pull an elite undead in the plaguelands and your face go sadbear with Fear immunity

wise valley
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im hesitant on pet classes

wanton ridge
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Warlock pets are tanking for you until 40-50 I think, then you just use them for mana and drain tank mobs, you can't die

clear fox
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Pet class seems good for leveling but then seems like just a matter of time before it Ninja pulls a whole instance

wise valley
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^

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yeah thats the big issue

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xaryu doesnt accept pet classes in his groups cus that reason

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and it makes sense

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classic has terrible pathing and pets are liability

wanton ridge
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xaryu also thought fire mage was bad in shadowlands

clear fox
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Does shadowmeld work like retail?

wise valley
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yeah

clear fox
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Like drop combat stealth

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I mean we are on the druid discord

wanton ridge
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It doesn't

clear fox
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I’d pitch that they seem solid for not dying

wanton ridge
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you can't use shadowmeld in combat in classic

viscid remnant
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warlock/hunter/mage id guess

clear fox
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Oh rip

wanton ridge
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It's a useless racial, you use it to afk in a zone to not pull mobs lol

clear fox
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Also isn’t moonkin like not a class in classic wow

wanton ridge
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moonkins exist to buff warlocks

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5% spellcrit aura iirc

wise valley
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warlocks are not safe

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i mean druids

clear fox
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Maybe mage then, self make food. Slows & cc along with block for bail out ?

wise valley
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yeah nvm smeld is bad

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i think bc is when it was changed

grand mesa
clear fox
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Idk in the end just play what you like best / are the best at

wise valley
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yeah

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i sold boosts in classic and bc lol

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and water

wanton ridge
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Yup. You can even AoE grind outside to level but if you resist a nova / cone of cold or a blizzard root, you're fucked

wise valley
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hella water money

wise valley
clear fox
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Like if you’re slow and steady should be overall safe as any class? But if you do get in a tough moment gotta have that familiarity to use all your utility and not panic

wise valley
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its classic

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even moments of panic are slow paced

clear fox
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It’s easy till randomly overtuned mobs in west fall crank for 25% of your hp bar

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I Just Watch guzu & him back seating death complications

wanton ridge
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Warlock in westfall, the first area, there are "robots" that you can't drain life or fear

clear fox
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And calamity’s vod review of their speedruns… which are wild

wanton ridge
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I would imagine a few people died to those lol

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I pulled 2 in classic and got rekt lol.

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How does it work though, you join the server, you install an addon and join "the" guild?

wise valley
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dont need a guild i dont think

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thats optional

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just need addon

grand mesa
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just join the server

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install addon

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and paly

wanton ridge
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Oh, I thought there was a HC guild and they'd kick you out if dead xd

grand mesa
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guild is good for community i guess but it's solo

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if u party up for outdoors i think ur disqualified

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diff rules for for in dungeon obv

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and then raid ofc

wise valley
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the addon tracks and announces deaths

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and grouping

grand mesa
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yeah its p dope

wanton ridge
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Yeah I saw the death announce thing, it's hilarious

wise valley
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shit knows when you think about grouping up

grand mesa
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and u have to logout

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it's got alt f4 detection

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the addon

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it's so funny that vanilla wow is incredibly viral popular - again

wanton ridge
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haha you know some people cheated with alt-f4

grand mesa
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i believe it

wanton ridge
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Guess some people could try to make another addon to disable that addon and /reload when they are about to die, surely they thought of that too

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little bastards trying to find loopholes

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Bloodsail was a RP-PvE server in classic I think, it's still that right? I wouldn't even try on a pvp server ;x

wise valley
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just rp

tropic schooner
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Hc on PvP servers sounds mental

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Don't think that's a thing

wise valley
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hmm

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idk rogue might be the move

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if that fails

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ill just aoe farm like a true regard

north grove
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@clear fox hi there, i appreciate for the help
i was speaking with @grand mesa yesterday and he also pointed some stuff that i need to improve, the mastery gear aswell

i'll go by parts, hehe

1 - my pve gear is crit/mast, i raid and do m+ content as feral since bfa
2 - i started healing as resto dru on s3 shadowlands, because as a bad DPS its hard to find groups to practice, people want higher CR or higher XP. So i went resto druid in an easy season where rdru was strong and solid, and im more used to playing 2v2s, i got 2080 cr as feral on bfa s4 w/ disc priest (fuij lessons, easy w/ versa corruption and mythic maut weapon) and s3 shadowlands was really easy, managed to get 2100 as resto+fury warrior , all 2v2 cr

3- im not a big fan of opening stealth with rake, im trying to put lifebloom+rejuv in order to get the regrowth on everyone, working on it
4 - puzzle also pointed out that sometimes i miss LB or i dont throw it first when rehotting. I'm trying to work on it, appreciate friend
5- im trying to get better cenarion wards extends

6- i saw some momments in the video that i ran away from the warlock but ended up in a bad spot getting caught by monk incap, but im trying to work on this too, appreciate!!

7- i used the catalyst to tier the boots, now i got mastery boots too, appreciate. im looking forward the primal infusion gear, that has versa mast on it (chest, wrist, waist), i just neglected world content/open pvp quests. im considering crafting the 418 ilvl vers mast ring too

8 - i wasnt playing rake because I was constantly getting caught trying to make setups and sometimes i'd lose the round because of it. was playing protector of the pack + starsurge, but im aware that i should run protector of the pack + starsurge against r shamms to break the totems, now i got different builds, without curse against non-curse class, etc, to improve

tropic schooner
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That's a lot of text

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Sorry that happened to you

north grove
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@clear fox
9 - i also figured by chatting with puzzle that im underperforming when i need to send hots to my offtarget. usually i lose some gcds. i do big heals full hots on prio heal target, and i only start putting hots on the offtarget when they swap, which is bad, but im working on it, im starting to do that earlier

10 - now i got rake talent and got some better weak auras, as well got lontar bar to track better cds, lifebloom 'pandemic' window, i started running nourish and im trying to pay attention whenever i can chain cc the enemy healer when someone lands a trap or a hoj or something like that

11 - also got rake again w/ a weak aura that tells me whenever i left combat/entered combat so i can make some plays, if i can send the rake and everything is fine, hotted, no bursts incoming, im sending it! if i feel that i can send a clone safely (no kicks available for the other team or no inc cc) i also chain cc with the clone after the rake

clear fox
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I need to get better at stomping totems as well my bad fps skills holding me back. Not very good at clicking them quickly lol

north grove
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i do appreciate the help 😄

clear fox
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If you have catalyst charge I’d do the belt as & just get the mastery wrists from world pvp right now. Then next week you can get the chest as well

north grove
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im looking forward for it

clear fox
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I thought you were pve moonkin from the Check pvp, so can’t share the stats & gear

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But if you have the spark getting the haste/mastery 418 ring w/zone of focus is a huge upgrade

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And if you tier belt and get Drakebreaker wrists should be like very noticeable hps wise

grand mesa
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did u notice a diff bandido?

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i know u queued last night

north grove
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im with some stress situation right now i gotta fix a computer that thinks theres a new processor attached to it, the TPM is bugging and im trying to figure out stuff hehe, theres some risk of losing HD data so im in pain right now

but as soon as i go back to wow ill def improve and etc

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@grand mesa i did

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at the beginning it was shitty because i messed up my bars/stuff

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when i changed the lontar bar

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but then i started doing those nourish

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it was exactly like you said

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"do you ever feel that you use the swiftmend, use the big SotF regrowth and its still not enough? NOURISH IT"

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thats exactly whats happening

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im nourishing and people are getting saved

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i also started to send hots earlier for the offtarget, when prio target is safe

clear fox
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Just like 1 rejuv on off target is really clutch

grand mesa
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u don't have to full load but like atleast have lifebloom and rejuv going

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so if u have to quick NS from an insanely fast sqp

clear fox
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If they don’t slowly rot to cleave people seem less inclined to swap to em as well

grand mesa
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swap

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ur NS and nourish do something

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cause u have mastery stacks

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already

clear fox
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But people love to swap to a off target with 70% hp and you have no hots

north grove
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i couldnt Q much coz i have an IRL tech issue right now, but i got out of the 1200 ish, got back to 1600ish, and just lost a 1-5 game because people are crazy
3x of those games im healing till i get oom'd. i didnt play the nature's vigil tho, and it was a disc priest

but my DPS were splitting hard the dmg, 1 of'em was going disc and the other was going whatever, so we didnt had that insane dmg and i was getting oom'd, since the dmg+cc on heals werent clutch

grand mesa
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i swear constantly going oom

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is a low rated thing

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once u get out of the pits of hell

clear fox
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Sometimes it do be like that just random 1-5

grand mesa
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people actually do damage

clear fox
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But rarely at >2k does the game go long enough for mana to really matter

grand mesa
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ur 1400 game i watched looked like week 1 of DF when everyone was full honor gear no tier

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the pace

clear fox
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People die pre 65% dampening

grand mesa
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looked fun actually

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lmao

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no one does damage, splitting targets, no one knows how to burst

north grove
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it was painful because it was disc priest+ and there was a shadow priest in the lobby. usually when i wasnt getting low mana i was getting 2 mindgames but i only had 1 dispell available tho

grand mesa
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so u can actually oom alot of games

clear fox
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Was gearing up a alt Druid pre conq boxes and the damage in the pits is for sure lower. Def unfavorable to rdru, especially now. Disc gotta be the 1100-1800 all star, crank some damage, shields all day

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Or just sham right now, legit earth shield, healing stream into afk

north grove
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yea, i mean, ofc i have a lot to improve, but what kills my patience is whenever people dont understand how to survive
as a dps i was aware that i needed to press defensives, altho as a healer i wasnt really tracking it and trading healer cds on it

rogues on low cr is painful, mages as well, warlocks as well, and hunters as well

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coz rogues dont kidney all the time, when they press defensives its evasion+cloak, after the vanish its certain death

mages are the best of those classes coz lots of frost mages so at lesat they got double lock at a certain time, but they def dont know how to use alter time

clear fox
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100% rogues are the worst at every cr. Either they run the town and go 5-1 6-0, or there a liability and just flop every game and you just hope they don’t somehow 1 shot someone when they on the other team

north grove
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warlocks gets constantly trained, but they dont know how to deal with it

when they port, its late port, when they use dark pact, its late, so the shield is small
sometimes they die without wall, sometimes they use dark pact (at mid hp) + wall + port
then they are ready to die

clear fox
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Hunter / mage just tough at mid cr since hard to kite well. Most seem to do 0 damage while trying to live is what I remember. Get those rounds were it’s like 5m healed vs 3m but your hunt/mage somehow only did 700k damage

grand mesa
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tbh low CR rogue everyone's probably keeping all enemies on stun dr so they can't even get a clean kidney lol

north grove
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yea i mean im not here to blame new players because i consider myself as a pretty newbie healer

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but its painful

grand mesa
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no ur playing p good tbh

clear fox
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For sure for sure

grand mesa
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of all the vod reviews we've done here and there urs was the least tragic lmao

clear fox
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Like defo better than rating by a lot

grand mesa
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others was like full pve spaceship ui and clicking

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can't tell waht's going on

clear fox
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Swap some gear bloom a lil harder and + big rating

grand mesa
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standing on top of the fight clicking shiut

clear fox
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And yeah ui / binds seem good

north grove
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i used to heal with mouse over coz of PVE, so i just recently changed to scroll up and down target macros

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so im getting used to not press mouse over stuff

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but im getting there

clear fox
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Like i usually rail at the ui when I see vod review, and yours was like okay let’s see what’s happening gameplay wise

clear fox
north grove
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i got the lontar bar coz i really liked it

grand mesa
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lontar bar is bis

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i saw sterge even adopted it as well

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lmao

north grove
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i actually saw a video of a guy named "Torpid"

clear fox
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Lontar bar being the one by party frames? I’ve got that too lol

north grove
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where he gives some good tips too

grand mesa
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yeah i call it lontar bar lmao

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lontar paving the way for the rest of us. big brocc build. lontar bar

clear fox
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I took from sterge didn’t know lontar was the og

grand mesa
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bandido do u like ur nameplates?

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i can't stand them

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lmao

stray sigil
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but to each their own

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doesnt he have like r1 druid on some shit on his stream titles/vids

grand mesa
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he's alittle self promotional and drops videos in here from time to time

north grove
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i heard that the community doesnt like him very much

stray sigil
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and hes like

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a 2.5 player

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so im not sure where he gets his r1 at

grand mesa
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yeah he works with r1 guys to put out a guide and then has misleading titles

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no he collabed with rennar

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or whoever

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i forget which druid

stray sigil
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rennar

grand mesa
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allegedly anyway

stray sigil
clear fox
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Oh I know this guy

stray sigil
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my eyes

north grove
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ye i saw that video

clear fox
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I opened that vid and went

stray sigil
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rennar

stray sigil
clear fox
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That’s how I feel about torpid

north grove
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that one

grand mesa
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also an RBGer

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primarily i think

stray sigil
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never heard of him before he self promoted in here

grand mesa
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i mean to each his own if he actually got his info personally from rennar who agreed to collab and pushed a guide out and it's all legit i guess who can argue if he's trying to build his channel

stray sigil
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and he has some dogshit feral guides

clear fox
grand mesa
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i hang out in nogard's discord he's pretty good about trying diff shit out since talent tree went to shit in 10.0.7 and he'll say what he tried how he felt and he talks to other high rated rdruids and compares notes

clear fox
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I Watch norgard replays on Monitor #2 during work. Respect the hustle on the man, he tries everything.

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Though maybe I’m not good enough, but every time I try the cat speed build he played i Just end up throwing

north grove
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i have dogshiet pve guides for my guild in my channel

->how to use warcraft logs properly, and wow analyzer helper to check your rotation too for easy tips
-> where to find good info for your class
-> how to burst on razaghest, using the lorrgs.io website (lmao)
-> how to download and use weak auras

grand mesa
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i love catboom build

north grove
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im raid leader too

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now im guild master

grand mesa
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big takeaway from watch nogard the most is using caster form wild charge

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that's one thing i really tried to add to my gameplay

north grove
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but i dont wanna be anymore

north grove
clear fox
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Idk how he has the awareness to know where people are all the time to make caster charges up blades edge etc

north grove
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well i know one thing for sure guys, someday ill get elite, and someday i might even get glad with u boys helping me out like this

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so go ahead and watch those nogard videos

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coz i will suck into your knowledge any time

clear fox
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I’m might be 2.5 shuff but like i lose track of positions all the time 😬😬

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Also does he have it macroed out to help / harm cancel form. Like i end up in bear and want to cancel / caster charge…

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Like can you write a macro to cancel form only if friendly target and bear form? So if I’m in travel I just stag hop but if I’m in bear/cat [help] we go flying

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Found it on Reddit

north grove
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im unsure my wild charge is regular

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i managed to get +4 new keybinds

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my mouse has 2 side buttons so now im using ctrl+side button and alt+side buttons

I can use shift too but i dont need it right now

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nourish is one of those new keybinds

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things are getting better

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slightly

grand mesa
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i just have a set bind for /cancelform

broken junco
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Skateboarding inside the house and my dog is barking at my skateboard

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Great news I have discovered that I can play my xbox

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I have gained enough movement in my hand

clear fox
# north grove im unsure my wild charge is regular

All wild charge the same? Just to rapidly swap from bear to human and fly to an ally is tough to do quickly for me. Currently my binds for bear (B) and charge (q) are a bit far apart to smoothly do. If can just make my charge button into a smarter macro. Havent tested it but this seems like should do what I want

#showtooltip Wild Charge
/cancelaura [help] Cat Form
/cancelaura [help] Bear Form
/use [help] Wild Charge; Wild Charge

north grove
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ah

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i see, cool

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well

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if im on bear (CTRL+1) i usually press CTRL+1 again and then press Q (wild charge keybind)

broken junco
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I barely it keybound to my numpad and my numbpad is keybound on my mouse buttons

clear fox
north grove
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sounds cool

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXA7Ls7xtpQ

heres another 5-1 game, from earlier today

games were fast coz all meele cleave comps, i forgot to record the 1st one but i was legendary on the 1st match hahah

i lost the last one tho, i got into some bad positioning and screwed things up. def could have done stuff better. @grand mesa and @clear fox

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i also forgot to take starsurge

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but i changed it for the last few games

grand mesa
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Send the 3-3 or worse imo

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this is the addon to show the yellow pandemic glow on my lifeblooms on raid frames

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also a second function for showing sotf empowered rejuvs so u don't overwrite

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lmao @clear pulsar was here too

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also consider this, pretty lightweight. i manually added healing stream totem tho

north grove
wise valley
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i see people compare feral to frost dk on twitch

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being bad

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bro

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people smoking crack

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if they think feral isnt fine

north grove
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i thot feral was fine

wise valley
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it is

north grove
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i saw a few on AWC, and they do bigdam specially when there are pets, so primal wrath gives that nasty apex proc bites

wise valley
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it is underrepresented on twitch and brainlets assume cus its bad

north grove
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i think snupy and thrilerbarton plays feral in high levels right

wise valley
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axtin as well

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our boy

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the golden child

north grove
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they all pump

wise valley
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snupy on his hardcore grind lately

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never on retail

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syfoxxy also high on ladder

north grove
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true, syfoxxy

grand mesa
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Everyone streaming hardcore are kinda popping off so

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Don’t blame him for getting that bread

wise valley
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yeah

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even no names on twitch with 40 viewers in hardcore

grand mesa
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Think xaryu topped our close to 9k viewers. Usually he’s 1-2 depending

wise valley
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people hoping to clip a funny death tettleslul

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dyllbar streams retail but he kinda toxic when he loses

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crazy cus 2 months ago he was chill with no viewers

grand mesa
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Think shuffle just does that to you

wise valley
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hate watching grown men get actually mad at losing

grand mesa
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Could you imagine shuffle healing for a living hours on that. Foxy has been less chill too

wise valley
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shuffle trash

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yeah

north grove
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lontar was tilted 2day

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he was carrying viewers to glad

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and they were being dogshit

wise valley
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i mean

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does it to himself at that point lmao

grand mesa
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Yeah

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You know what you’re signing up for relax

wise valley
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and these dudes dont even make money off pvp

grand mesa
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Like signing up to work at a sewer plant and mad you smell like shit idk

wise valley
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they make money off twitch

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better stream personality more lucrative unless your top pvp pro

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no reason to be toxic af

grand mesa
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I don’t think a lot of these dudes have the personality to go variety

wise valley
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yeah agree

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pika and xaryu are very rare player personalities

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just built for camera work tbh

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pika was doing an emotional rant talking about how he modeled himself after swifty

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rage gets old, except joefernando

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even crusader falling off

north grove
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i believe they could try to

grand mesa
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Wow is an older game and I think average age trends older too

north grove
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i like to watch a holy/disc priest called "Gekz" i think he plays for liquid/method idk

grand mesa
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Bet the screaming raging schtick

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Works better on Fortnite

grand mesa
wise valley
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yeah ive watched gekz

north grove
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he plays other games besides wow at times. he likes the resident evil series so i told him to check the brazilian game called "hotel st -difna" once

grand mesa
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He’s kinda the worst type of ranger sometimes

north grove
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he bought the game and played it

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it was fun

grand mesa
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The whiney type

north grove
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oh i get it

grand mesa
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Like sending soup back type of whiney

wise valley
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yeah tbh why i enjoy crusader

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his rages are legendary

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and he just starts going into self positive pissed off rants

grand mesa
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Yeah he just leans into it and dbls down. It’s not whiney it’s kinda funny most of the time

wise valley
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screaming AGAINST ALL ODDS

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BELIEVE IN YOURSELF

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and he gets real self high and starts talking about himself in 3rd person lmao i love it

north grove
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ive seen that crusader3455 or something

wise valley
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the mies never caught off guard

north grove
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i like the way he speaks

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it looks like its an weirdo accent

wise valley
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like a methhead?

north grove
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he says 'salvatiON" freedioM" stuff like that

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its funny

wise valley
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his normal voice is suprisingly...normal

north grove
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i like the texas accent too

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and the AUS ppl speakin english

wise valley
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yeah tbh sometimes i just play glyphs youtube vids in background and touch myself

north grove
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u mean the "G" on this discord?

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hes AUS?

wise valley
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hes NZ

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basically same accent

north grove
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ye

wise valley
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nz just less redneck

north grove
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thats cool id check him out later

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the lifebloom addon is working puzzle

wise valley
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lol his youtube shit probably outdated now he just has a couple balance guides ive watched

north grove
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i like that i was bashing my head on a wall and after a few tips i feel im better

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im going to 3k shuffles

broken junco
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I reinstalled fallout 4

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Time to build a base and do war crimes

north grove
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fallout 4 is awesome

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i also love fall out new vegas

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but i didnt play fallout 4 coz of moneyz

broken junco
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It's like 20 something dollars now

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And I'm going to build a robot

north grove
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haha thats cool, i saw that you can play with some armor stuff

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im nailing it @grand mesa @clear fox