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what does feral have
15k heals, 6% wall, barkskin
frenzied regen that makes me do no dmg and heals for 15%
yes ret has just better version of druid defesnives its funny
divine protecction > bark bub > SI wog > RG
plate armor
And soul leech and dark pact
On top of all that
And their main builder and spender both heal them for some % of hp
i like how frenzied regen healing more than 15% hp max was too strong
but ret defensives went live like this
free bark usable while stuns
200k absorb shield of vengeance that even does the same shield amount as damage
free instant flash of fuck urself
all packaged into 300k justiciars
cuz god knows why that was a great idea
ape devs
back to emojis

how do i play vs assa rog or feral dudu? it seems like any time i go up against them no matter what i do im dead in under 30 seconds. this is 2s format, most i meet are with a disc priest
it does look fun
maybe i try when its fair
but i have too much self-respect to play something so op
we need /spit back
didnt asmongold ruin it
when he made people use it on bought tbc mounts
the only thing asmongold ruined is his teeth
irrelevant american with a shepherd flock

how do i counter assa rog or feral dudu as resto in 2s?
anyone else think we should all be refunded gametime for ret and warerior being op?
@livid wasp post thi sthought in wapvpaer
i died during an opener in tree form


yup
No
why
is tht a jewish week?
Cuz ur mama only available on friday saturday
i will do that soon

5h from now
Happy Diablo day
hahahaha bro what is wow rn
im watching lontar struggle against a ret in 2s
rofl

David I need a short tldr for FW
I’m so lost cause I never played MW I don’t know what any of these heals actually do lmao
ye
Mystical is a MW yes
ok super short tldr inc
copy bank build
copy his WA
to heal u press essencefont or feline stomp
and then u pressdmg to heal
So when do I press renewing enveloping vivify
vivify basically almost never
renewing is on insta so when u got a free global u cant hit anything or at start
enveloping is situational
Essence font is cast time ya?
ye but u can stopcast it
And then I just mash tigers palm blackout kick and rsk?
rsk -> tp -> bok fishing for rsk reset
if u are on feline stomp and need heals more tahn damgur can ignore rsk cuz bok cleaves and stuff
Ok I think that’s a good enough starting point
Need to comp stomp anyway for the last of my honor gear
bank has a guide on youtbue but its pretty long
Oh perfect. Idm long
ig u can watch when ur at work waiting or something
The only vid I checked out was cdews
From 3 weeks ago
Where he said monk is terrible and I actually haven’t really played it this expac so most of this guide is based on knowledge from prior expacs haha
cdew monk is a bit sussy
uhhhh yeah not many ppl play caster mw and the builds are varied from when i checked it out
I’ve waited for this ss, and it’s glory
Ya but this patch was a ton of buffs to caster
So might be worth it to learn that too
Idk Everuthing is out of whack cause ret who knows what’s actually good lmao
U excited for d4 David
sure
David is grass gamer now
not today
y

Israel has gone one step ahead and one step right back
Oh wow
Third spec might actually be more likely for evoker lol
So a bunch of new abilities have been added in the latest 10.1 PTR Build for a potential third spec for Evokers
Full Reddit Post: https://t.co/z03D2JOORu
wheres the dh healer spec
i dont understand one thing
why ppl are supprised they meet a ret
every single game
its obv, that 95% of the wow community play the best spec in the game
so they can win
ofc
its like why there was dh everys shuffle
sp
assa etc
ppl will play op shit always
and blizzard always cant balance
I think blizzard could actually do a really good job of balancing and do do a good job
If they weren’t always playing catch-up to new buffs nerfs reworks from pve side
Should just separate more upfront on changes so they don’t have to tune it 3 weeks later
ofc but its a big if
Yeah they always are
K committing leveling my evoker then
ye dh, sp assa, rdru, now ret
disc aswell
disc at some point
ye they just change
like every healer was rdru
every few weeks
terrible dogs
tanking hex on CD
still no one could die
like there is nothing more cringe in this game
Hahaha wait. I read Reddit post looks like data mining random spellids that look evokerish. Could be NPC abilities
Haha yea that's probably what it is but I had already planned to slowly level evoker just in case
Spr was the big one. They needed help on Pve side early DF and then became a menace in arena lmao
Took a month to tune 🤣
Worst that can happen is I have an alt that can push lust
the thing with ret is that, the spec should be tanky, its a plate spec
As rdru I am victim of evoker having lust
and should deal a lot of dmg with wings

but their range rng
is jsut insane
they are casters
u should be able to spit in their mo
mouth
as a caster
and kite them
Do you guys like these constant meta changes/frequent tuning? I know we complained about late SL being super stale. Like outlaw being a thing for 6 months. But idk if this feels any better lol
Im new to feral and had been going ok gearing and ranking the last few weeks, but with the new patch and rise of ret pallys my rating has just tanked. Do I just stop trying until needs lol?
i think changes are good, but reworks in the middle of the ssn are not
do not queue until theyve been fixed
Everyone’s in ret nerf waiting room tbh
If you care about your rating just chill
I’d expect to see something by Monday night but who knows
Man thats really shit. Surely blizz will see pvp participation fall off hard this week, why they don't make changes quicker is baffling
Probably they’re in tough spot on how to do it
they need to redesign it again
or just fuck their dmg in pvp
fixed
arent there like 30+ specs
so stupid to let one be op while they think how they are gonna fix it
just nerf it to the ground and then decide what to do with it
That's an opinion
but pvp is a minigame so they dont have to care much I guess
My ice dude
Like it's obviously a problem but it also has been 3? Days
Yes they Prolly shoulda pushed a hotfix earlier and nerf dmg by like 5-10% or sth maybe healing
But it's also not the end of the world to not queue for a few days
If it's like this in 2 weeks that would be another Story

Disagree
I don’t like anything getting nerfed to the ground
And tbh I think they’ve done a p good job of that lately
Before it was like you were scared to be OP because they’d gut you so hard you might be done for the rest of the expansion or two
🤣
Only class that I’m ok with being gutted so hard we never see them again is rogue
If rogues died in 2 hits it'd be fine
Also hope devoker gets a ret style rework. Don’t like classes that are tuned around 1 shot
They don’t one shot they’re really kinda bad. They get buffed then they one shot and no one has fun
lol i just saw that
Hahahahahhaa
w
w
Tbf holy priest I’m sure is super rare
But then again not as rare as evoker or rdruid yesterday 🤣
disc - 354
holyPriest - 256
Hpal - 291
MW - 375
rdruid - 209
Pvoker - 167
rsham - 623
hahaha wait
axtin and them won the liquid tourney
cuz hes the only one that queued ret or what
ROFL
I think
Ret got a bunch of last second buffs right before patch dropped
And that was after liquid tournament
Surely puzzle queues with me this weekend instead of playing d4 
Hahaha
Depends on how much I find d4 this weekend
Was bored to tears last weekend
Lol everyone in pveland is losing it because of these rings questions
Lol
Fucking nerds with their math
ok its actually impossible to hit 1400 on solo on a rat
if u go 3-3 u either lose or dont gain rating
if u go 2-4 ur down 50
if ur up 5-1 u only gain 40 rating
Gotta go 4-2 or better several times
If u swing up and down game to game ur gonna go nowhere
thats to cringe LOL
@grand mesa
help
Look
The way I see it
You’re waiting this long for d4 or waiting this long for shuffle to pop
And one of the two doesn’t have ret paladins
So
yeah just build up your mmr bro
why u losin rounds
cuz im a 400 ilvl DK
and wat u mean rat. it has never been that easy to gear up a rat for pvp in the entire history of wow
nokep
Comp stomp u dingus
dont even need honor to uppy
same thing
full honor gear is what, 411. then u get conq uppies to 424
If I find d4 boring enough or queue time annoying enough you’ll have plenty of 2s tbh
I want to gear mw and rsham anywya and I have no clue how to play either
It’ll be an adventure
Yeah my fans were going nuts
When I did beta last week
Kinda why I’m thinking of buying new rig
i makle druid ig
Between this and cs2 and me not being able to play wow max gfx
why do druid look kultiran
It’s about time
hey anyone. any good pvp builds out there? Resto
top pin
@grand mesa does holystrike bypass bop or na
doubtful
wouldnt holy dmg bypass bop
i think ye
no im asking cuz i was watching vanguards last night
and he was just stopping dmg on bop
got me thinking
its both physical and holy
there are also things that are physical hits that deal magical damage
like uhdk cant scourge strike into bop either
ye but scourge strike is physical only
it isnt though
idk its coded as only physical
it looks like
failedcthe
dogshit tragic game
d4 or wow
i sat
60 min q
and it said
queue time out
dogshit game
holy fuck
what a disgusting company
idk
where is a fucking safe queue
if iam sitting 60 min
i shouldnt be able to get fuck
for at laest 5 min
Yes
How is it @viscid remnant
Better than poe ya?
xd
i mean the lvling mby
eh
kinda similar
for poe lvling to not be annoying need to get a 3 link early then its fine
I’m sorry bud
ret hunter ret?
just play ret zechey
best part about vanilla was people being more faithful to their class
not easy to reroll
need good balance
I still think it’s worth it tbh. I’d rather have easy alts + meta slaving
but non existent with blizzard
Maybe cause low level EP?
I thought it was boring too felt a lot like early wow leveling when ur auto attack swinging and have maybe 1 ability lol
Did they nerf resto's output? I can have all hots on and spam regrowth+nourish in tree form and my target still dies :l
in solo shuffle
That's because of the malding
I've been able a few times in the last year's too
You’re likely missing germination now which is a mastery stack + a second rejuv hot
But also what’s hitting your target
Ret?
nothing is gonna heal thru ret rn
I had two rejuv and it was lobby with ret, lock, dk and hunter. I won only one and lost other 5 cuz someone died when I was freecasting on them
Like... I never had such issue before. I feel so confused, like my healing didnt exist
Other healer was resto shammy
What is ur build that you still have dbl rejuv
Really the only way we lost throughput is that, if you want to maintain almost our exact builds before this prepatch, you lose germination. Which is a pretty decent throughput hit
This is what I was using
No budding leaves
Yeah idk what’s better. Budding leaves or germ. I suspect it’s budding leaves but idk
Waiting for the good rdruids to figure it out
@grand mesa dosent budding suck when you play invig
dont download extra texture shit
I mean value goes away when you reset lifebloom all day
I cant get in rbg group cause theyre looking for a RETRIBUTION PALADIN
not at all
didnt even know was open today
or this weekend
you gotta refresh lifebloom just before invig expires it
oh shit bro. imagine if swiftmend's VI extended lifebloom and rejus by 12s. but kept their invig's tick rate
📈
maybe we could heal ret
You don’t let invig burn out your hots so you try and pair with smend
And extend with 1s left
Ya probably
@grand mesa i guess i suck at using invig then
But ty
I’m playing this with great succes!
Found it from dannycarry and habiby
@stray sigil watchubg?
I dont feel like tree regrowth spam does anything that nourish with alot of mastery cant make up for
Yeah Nogard just posted that same build in his discord
You gotta take feral out of your name unholy player
I honestly don’t see a point to that rip but whatever
Losing tree dosent even feel half as bad as i was Think it would
why im a feral main
Me neither
rip is feralcability
Honestly just copied dannycarry 2 days ago
Should prob switch it to heart of the Wild
I don’t think we ever needed tree
wachubg?
It was just an easy button
Agreed
tree is a crutch fir bad rdrus
But our mana feels bad atm
probably why I feel naked without it ^^
Your hots burn out super fast
I only rly play shuffle most of the times so its not rly a problem
I think in organized 3s you’d play completely differently tbh
I’d probably lean really heavy into invig verdancy
In 3s with comms
wtihg
Agreed
invig should do decent burst healing inside efflo
cause ur jamming so many verdancy procs through @ once
so it'll feel kinda like a burst heal
is norgarddru discord public?
Yup
ya tuna actually peeked in here not too long ago and said he really loves verdancy/efflo and he ran invig verdancy in the tournament
can someone link it?
Ok
Same cannot get a link
no worries
Makes sense toonah played that in tourney… rdruid looked strong in the tourney too
So i Think it is some okay changes afterall
ig
Even tho i was a doomsayer at first
shuffle is more my jam lately
and i do think we probably do suck more in shuffle
lol
I know, but other healers does too so its fine
Mw and rsham is very very strong
But other than that all are mediocore
idk i don't have an opinion on healers really until ret nerfs lol
srick tuba up your tyngu
And all the rets atm doing unhealable damage make is Seem worse
kinda hard to judge when rets are just clapping left and right
rsgamis op
haha
qribg
Yh i get that… ret is a shit show haha
blessed panda
save us
hi
Pod smells like microwaved raw shrimp
👍
@hollow condor c9
??
qatching?
it was cool
u can play like a melee thing or caster kinda
id say druid or necro or rogue
man do i even bother
family time gonna make me get up and imma have to sit in queue again anyway
just dont then
@stray sigil watching?
i was afk in game for like 30min and not kicked out
watching wich team
why re u crying about
where is Cog he is better Pod
@stray sigil r u gusy watching c9
watchign who
cl;oud 9
respect pod
respect me
ill shut fuck when fuji tell me if he watch c9
yo on a real note UH is so fire now
Garg is sick
but it sucks having all ur dmg put into a pet
cleaning up my rdruid builds is depression
LOL
like we see debuffs on pet frames lulz
i can't even see my hots on them
i dont undferstand why garg does so much dam
Lol yeah. In comms it's easy but in shuffle just... kick shackle I guess
gargoy
Is it garg or valkyr they're running?
Gary is sick
I don't even know if valkyr is a thing anymore actually
XD
why is that emote 180p
Dbl ret
ok so
Brother. I am avoiding pvp so much this week I’m filling my vault doing a +2 and LFR
you queueing a baby dk into all this
the valkyr
Is kinda fried
flies higher outside of melee kick range
imagine if autobubble was still a thing
coward
did u know this puzzle?
I am gonna make my invigorate WA instead
hm tich doesnt have the glyphstro
I actually have no clue what pod is talking about
its not a glyph its a person u talk to in acherus
IM TALKINMGA BOUT THE TWO DIFFERENT SKINS ON DK GARGOYLE PUZZLE

its a dps increase
apparently the gargoyle does more dam
if u play with a dh
but otherwise, valkyr is better

This would also be some random pve Shit gharnef would make up
And no one actually knows if it’s true
who makes it a valk
I mean I’ve never seen pod and cog typing at the same time so
isnt me sorry to disappoint
i am not 2.6k on dk
I did a key as ret earlier, first time playing the spec in DF. After first pull I felt I mastered the retribution specialization. Shuffle here I come

Grats on 3k
did u watch
grats on 3.4k rating

Thanks guys
@viscid remnant come q 🙂
I am sleep
funny how the ultimate fotm reroll week coincided with comp stomp
I am not wow player
I said what i said

To this day I still don’t know why my favorite sauce became derogatory
technically its a bean
bad science attempting to associate soy products with estrogen production
Soybean plants will generally produce the highest yields when the beans are planted in May, but the soil temperature is something you have to take into consideration as well.
soy sauce is amazing
And I’m lactose intolerant so soy milk too
Call me soy idc I don’t mind BEING DELICIOUS
I drink soy sauce straight from the bottle
even tho I still dont quite get the real difference between light and dark soy sauce
like I guess I "get" it
Dark is saltier
but light soy sauce is just shit
what
id say the opposite
light is saltier
and less umami
Or the soy sauce with the green top
while dark is more intense
Is the low sodium
that does not get in my house
i like my low salt soya
team i need a playlist and stream title for tonight
help
Good for u
the last rice vinegar I bought
has an absolute shit bottle tho
very hard to get the proper dosage
and considering its vinegar.. thats risky
1am
Old david wouldnt be in bed by 1am
you may love him
At 5
but i dont
Every weekday
David has a job so now he has money and purpose
he changed
F
Maderfaker biq dumass
ur cringe
Literally cant log im
Wrong
And now he’s got cash in his pocket
u have resub gold u lying bich
damn a fake
and a liar
I dont even know him anymore]
im going back to feral gl team
bye trevvy
@stone breach is alliance HOF legit
But im not using it to play onfe a week and q shuffle after work
I am okay
Also retpala

I dont really get why low mobility is considered a downside of ret
im so frustrated pvping cause of these new change. back to back shuffles in the smallest arenas with 3 other melees (2 rets + war/dh). there's no concept of cross cc or setup when the burst + kill happen in one fucking go
I bit my tongue as I was about to flame the healer, not worth
im legally obligated to say yes because my gf got alliance HoF once
But trevvy told me to resub
im just spamming skirms
Cuz the game is super great
the lack of brain cells in skirms is not worth it to me
like fuck
moment I come out of cat form to start dotting, by my third dot its like time to go bear!
not much else to do
only silver lining , I THINK, is if i get 'comfy' with getting rushed by two melees/rets...and I can somehow manage it and know what to do, it will make me a better player in the long run
that is my current attitude
thats the mindset we went jungle on patch day
because truthfully, prior to ret buff, i sat every hoj and at MOST stampeding roar or dash from wings. that's it.
that itll feel easier when theyre nerfed
i hope so!
Thats a good mindset tbf
its a good mindset for improvement, but i'd say playing rightn ow is just wasting ur itme
calling ret an outlier is massive understated
yeah i agree
but like, we raid twice a week
what else do I do
level something?
Play alts
play a different game
I’m serious I think knowing what other classes do just makes u better on main

If u care about improvement
Maybe they knew ret was busted so gave us comp stomp
So we can hide 🤣
they gave us comp stomp so rets can gear up quick
feral
legendary zechey
Pass why would I play a disgustingly OP class
only lvl 61
u dont level
why are pver disappointed?
Locks exist
Some people wasted their times getting the "best in slot" gems for new ring tuesday, and they changed all of them since then, and then warlocks also were OP, in fact they deleted all the parses for when locks were OP this week lol
Warcraftlog invalidated the entire raid night of tuesday because of warlocks
that didnt happen to me
i think this patch has been good pve-wise cuz the ring is ez to get and good
and its helping my prog
so im not complaining, im happy
even tho feral got nerfed
wait
i didn't raid on tuesday it was wednesday

i mean ya losing parses sucks, but parses this far into the tier are also meaningless
its just setting ppl up to pad
who rlly cares
my ring was my top damage across all our pulls yesterday on our first raz prog night lmao
i only care much about parses early in the tier
Warlock existing is cringe
cuz it actually is measuring how much meaningful dmg ur contributing to ur raid vs. other ppl playing ur spec vs. just being a pad competition
I like the more frequent balance patches
better than "welp if your spec sucks in x.0, better luck in x+1.0"
okay @lime light how do I druid
nevermind game prolly crashed again

I just started with 50% downloaded
priest lvl 63
dungeon grind is harsh
what have you guys found to be the fastest way to lvl up
without paying
How's everyone's pally mains doing
what are the best resources for feral guide in arena rn?
ye i dont get it
its fried reward for finishing a dungeon is 57k xp and winning a bg 17k
noob?
hahahaha if they do awc with this ret
Rets been ass for so long they're probably giving it its moment in the sun
i mean yea...
i think they should let ret stay op
but like
not this op
this is fucking stuopid
glyphiesyro
jusgemrnt dispel is op
ALWAYS
Well
@stray sigil
Guess the ol’ main will get his socket from LFR and +2s
ya every ret wrapping up their wins this weekend 
WHERES my rdruid buffs
one of my buddies partners made a ret yesterday and it's 2550 3s today
are those nerfs enough
Justicar’s Vengeance now deals 15% additional damage to stunned targets in PvP combat.
yes...did u not read the biggest change?
they were doing full 200% dam critrs
or at least
25% bonus dam
which basically amounts to same thing
its acutally funny, they hit exactly what iw as complaining about most
which is like...ye obv they pamp
now ur hunter friend gonna come crawling back
but defensively they were fucking ABSURD
now they still pamp, but less ridiuclous defense at least
bro like
the amount of defense / healing they had
bro
can you even get glad with all the other rets quing
Frost
All ability damage reduced by 3%.
yeah the queues are decent
Fuck fdk
And lock nerfed
Just really surprised
Ret isn’t a hotfix
Thank god I’m not a ret
I would fomo so hard this weekend
wdym
Lmao
i mean
To just do everything
u had a very similar situation this last week before 10.07, no?
u still did nothing

not to the same ridiculous extent though
rdruid nerf isn’t as bad as what rets will see on Tuesday lol
I mean tbh I hit my goal in January 🤣🤣🤣
Why who cares
if i cares that much I would have done boomy games when u would do offspec
Cba. If I get it accidentally by playing great but yea
Temp title ya
wdym
but not the achievement?
The achievement doesn’t no
ok yeah, why not just get it then
its legit like what enji did
where he got 2400, but not glad
its like...u put x amount of effort which is WAY more than y, so just put in y and finish the job
Well he just ran out of time
u spent more time in prepatch fiddling with UI than it would take to finish legend
I put really no effort into shuffle tho that’s the thing. I just played when it was fun or to cap. Left my main druid at 2300 for 2 months
🤣🤣🤣
Yeah I enjoy UI shit
speaking of which
I need invig WA
I need to make it
THATS CAP
For all the shuffles I’m not gonna do
u put massive efforts into ur rdru
yes u did
no. I'm excited for d4, but i don't ever do betas except for fighting games cuz i feel like its just spoiling the experience when it actually comes out. but thats just my opinio, don't blame others for wanting to tree it
try it*
especially just cuz how d3 worked, u do act 1 1 million times
i ain't gotta do it 1 more
hi
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