pvp

[edgy shale]

u shoudl tell us ur self or u soptd?

[stray sigil]

ye i dont remember

i dont think u do use lariat

prob just use ring

double vers mas

[viscid remnant]

@edgy shale @stray sigil read the pod server

[edgy shale]

ok, but the mastery bemllish is shit

[stray sigil]

who cares

[viscid remnant]

If u want ofc

[broken junco]

Guys

I'm a dragon

[stray sigil]

wdym@by that cog

[edgy shale]

stop poissing everyone off plz

[stray sigil]

[broken junco]

https://tenor.com/view/kobayashi-tohru-tooru-kobayashi-san-dragon-maid-gif-19473914

[north grove]

are ya guys gettin dc every now and then when u finish a 3v3 game?

[tardy hare]

No

[opal pumice]

[pallid coral]

he's got glad since like legion

and got rank 1 in sinful season

[viscid remnant]

O rly

Havent seen him much

[edgy shale]

hi

[ornate ice]

Its worth to drop budding leaves to pick germination?

[opal pumice]

[clear pulsar]

The million dollar question innit

[patent dove]

Invig sux

[clear pulsar]

I dont think dropping budding leaves for germ quite makes sense. It could be a good setup for sure, but in my mind dropping budding leaves makes sense against purge spam, where germ also wont do much.

Idk tho I've only played like 3 shuffles and every game is some dps going 6-0 or 0-6 and it feels like nothing I do makes a difference

You rly need to play it and feel out how dropping budding leaves feels

[viscid remnant]

Id stall till ret changes for sure

[clear pulsar]

I think when you arent playing against a spec that can 100-0 you 4 times within 15s

Invigorate is gonna feel nicer

But who knows

[viscid remnant]

Hahahaha

[edgy shale]

the thing i dunnernstand about ret

not only are they pamp damagur

u now how many defensies they have now?

its acutally insane how tankyt they are now

prob best defensives in gase now

[viscid remnant]

What do they have

[ornate ice]

okey thx

i will try and see what feels better

[edgy shale]

a CD like barkskin, so like 8 seconds duration, 1 min cd, usable while stunned, but 30% dr insteads of 20. they have a versiosn of WHI, but instead of frenzy it just WOGs them, and they have talents that makes wog heal more when ur low so it full heals u. they have like 10% bonus stam now, shield of vengeance buffed

[clear pulsar]

This blessing of dusk shield is very large, and they get divine protector on top of the absorb cd

They're warlocks now

[edgy shale]

this talant make shield of veggie more powerful than ev

[viscid remnant]

They have wall and shield of veng or choice

Still doesnt seem that tanky

Mby for a melee

[clear fox]

Do it infinite power

[clear pulsar]

They have soul leech from the fading light talent

Dark pact

30% wall

And their #1 dmg spell heals them for 8% of their hp everytime

And free insta flash of light for 2x what regrowth does

And can still wog

[viscid remnant]

Hm

[clear pulsar]

They have a very real defensive toolkit

And still bop bubble lay

You cant kill them

Well you can kill them if theyre bad but you prob shouldnt train them

[grand mesa]

They’re getting giga passivr self heal without even woging themselves

[grand mesa]

https://twitter.com/trimaz_wow/status/1638867399674933250?s=46&t=68bCkRlgrZvQ7iKaa5Kn5g

Trimaz (@trimaz_wow)

finally a good enchant🙏

▶ Play video

Twitter · Mar 23, 2023, 11:36 AM

???? This is the s2 enchant? Looks sick

[livid wasp]

I hope theyll make it so that you will have to had played an x amount of games before 2 weeks before end of season or sth so these rets who abuse their class to 3.4k now wont get r1

[grand mesa]

Inflation will push them out of r1 if they sit after the nerfs come

[mortal wyvern]

I decided to push 3s last night and got absolutely trained as a boomy and lost rating

I tried everything. Vortex. Typhoon. Stamp roar to create gap. I still perished many miserable deaths

Unless someone has a better idea, those opening hojs... I'm trinketing them often unless a teammate was ccing for me. I am tempted to run faerie swarm disarm. Not sure if that's troll?

[clear fox]

Big ups over s1 enchant

[grand mesa]

Should try to avoid trinket if healer isn’t in CC. If both are CC he can’t dispel you and the ret turns very big and yellow and he’s gonna throw his entire spellbook at u then youbtrinket lol

[clear fox]

Here’s the secret tech. Wait for nerfs then que. Fingers crossed for hotfix during reset, otherwise just don’t play till Tuesday +. Thankfully I’m away this weekend so can’t even con myself into running 3s

But also yes just wait for your healer to dispel, if they aren’t fast on it make them get some real angry Weakaura / big debuffs sizing to speed those up

[opal pumice]

[mortal wyvern]

Aight will let my healer know we look for that. Thanks guys

As for not queuing. Don't know what else to do. Guess I got raid tomorrow and sat...

[grand mesa]

https://wago.io/Dl9GhMDxH

Use this WA

[clear pulsar]

The df s1 enchant ish orrible wtf

[mortal wyvern]

Thank you! Needed this

[clear fox]

I’d say 70/30 in favor hotfix today. Just by the sheer rage across everywhere. Maybe it’s not enough immediately, but letting this roll through the weekend would be somewhat surprising to me. But if it does go through the weekend maybe I’ll get to see the mythical quad Ret Paladin shuffle screenshot

[mortal wyvern]

I mean...

My friend went 1500 shuffle to 2300 (1500 on weekend). Won 40/56 rounds this week or some shit

It's just not fair or right.

I'm malding. I'm angry. I'm embracing it. Idc

I'm trying to learn and get better but last night was glads on alts steam rolling me. Wasn't fun. Oh well..

[clear fox]

I was reading some thread on the bliz forum where people were Aggro flaming this Ret that was like nerf not needed. Meanwhile man went up 600 rating and tagged 2.4

I know I shouldn’t feel jealous and it’s just a game, but I certainly felt something

[mortal wyvern]

Yep. I agree.

[clear fox]

Only think that keeps me from going over the edge is knowing if rdru was ultra cracked patch day… id be doing the same. So can’t fully blame the players, blame blizz letting it go through

[mortal wyvern]

I'm happy for my friend but it's just bad game design. And wow pvp has a competitive aspect to it.

I don't blame the players at all. I blame the devs

It is what it is. This is my first season ever playing wow so I'm still just figuring stuff out but the difference pre and post patch is marked.

I was climbing steadily through 1600 and now I'm 1400. In one night

[clear fox]

In 3s ye ?

[mortal wyvern]

Yeah

Shuffle is a bit more tame

[clear fox]

For first season wow 1600 is really good tbh

Like rating deflation is real

[mortal wyvern]

Well it's inflated

[clear fox]

In 3s nah

If you look up people in 3s in the 1600s I’m sure you’ll see at least 1 player on the other team at over 2k shuffle

[mortal wyvern]

I have multi glads in my guild who have sat me down and helped and taught me basics. Ui. Weak aura, etc. But I still need practice tracking drs... Tracking omni bar, etc.

Yeah that's the thing my 3s and ss were going up at the same cr and pace. Both mid 1600s. Got shuffle up to 1730 last night. Hopefully 1800 tonight or yokottow.

Tomorrow*

[clear fox]

When Ret nerfs roll through probs lightly easier climb for a day or two. Felt the same when dh got slammed. Suddenly people’s mistakes were easy to exploit when they wernt doing galaxy damage

1800 east

Especially if you’re mid 1600s 3s as of last week

Just matter of waiting / games

[mortal wyvern]

Would you say in lower brackets like.. Sub 18 or 19, game play is still like shuffle? Ie burst and less cc setup?

Because I found if I focused too much on cc in 3s last night my output was legit losing us games but if I focused dmg first we had a chance.

[clear fox]

As a healer, feels like entirely different game modes. In 1500-1700 3s people have the same omega burst as 2-2.4K shuffle. But the sustained damage is lower vs shuffle lobbies

However at even 1500 rating in 3s I get hit in actual cross cc / cc chains that even when I peaked at 2.6 shuffle I never saw

[mortal wyvern]

Hmm ok

I never felt pinned down by cc. I felt trained beyond what my healer could do to save me.

[clear fox]

as Druid only cc generally that feels worth I’d follow up. I mostly play with a hunter; and unless he’s able to trap after / before usually feels not worth it

Have you tried the human form feral charge, does that even work in moonkin form ?

[mortal wyvern]

99% of the time I use boomkin form disengage

[clear fox]

The just straight fly at warp speed to the ally

I guess maybe not worth given the form swapping gcd

[mortal wyvern]

Yep but I have not found utility to do so. Maybe to my dh for darkness.

Yeah it consumes globals

[clear fox]

Not the biggest expert on moonkin, I only play resto, and just fired wow up again this season after a rather long hiatus (since 4? xpacs ago)so total knowledge base is low

[livid wasp]

lol

https://www.twitch.tv/trillebartom

3 rets

1 shuffle

[mortal wyvern]

No worries appreciate the discussion

[clear fox]

I WANT 4!

but ill take this too

[fair mirage]

You never know.

[grand mesa]

I still think that’s messed up duck

The strings for next season say 0.1% too

Think that’s a 1% typo

Unless there really are 100k players for most specs 🤣

[clear fox]

Where we see 1%? Currently a 2% Druid, just wanted to stay part of the 99%, but I’ll go for the push if we ever sort out builds

[livid wasp]

I dont have the mental to get R1 to begin with

if I did id be queuing shuffle all day

[clear fox]

I did some degen queing for grandmaster in StarCraft 2

I’m sure I can channel that energy again if somehow was in reach

But where these extra sus cutoffs posted

[viscid remnant]

Imagine if guilty sat his cr

Ez r1

I told him to sit

Or what

Prophet davider

[fair mirage]

They might do 1%

I'd no doubt get a lot of people playing

knowing that it's not just the same 10 people of each spec

and/or wintraders

Probably not but time will tell

[clear fox]

Ye but where these curoffs even posted, usually I good at google but I’m coming up with NOTHIN

[clear pulsar]

0.1% is def more than 10 people in shuffle

Participation is crazy high

[clear fox]

1% just seems giga wide. Imagine getting crimson glad in 3s but not even being 2.4 😂

Or is that gonna inflate enough

[grand mesa]

The current cutoffs have like over 100 rshams and demo currently qualifying

If it’s 0.1% then there’s like 100k rshams on ladder

[viscid remnant]

i mean cant u check this somehow

by using 2.4 stats

what % of spec is 2,4+

and then how many ppl are 2.4+

[clear fox]

I did with fire mage

[viscid remnant]

and then math

idk

[clear fox]

And its far too high

[grand mesa]

@clear fox https://twitter.com/drustvar_lfg/status/1638764758492123136?s=46&t=68bCkRlgrZvQ7iKaa5Kn5g

Drustvar (@Drustvar_lfg)

Added Solo Shuffle Cutoffs to the leaderboard pages. (Only NA Cutoff data available atm).

https://t.co/rLYkkgaatb

Twitter · Mar 23, 2023, 4:48 AM

So this website is pulling from blizzards API

They opened up their data on rank1 cutoffs for third party websites

Original tweet

https://twitter.com/leekatv/status/1638391053027004416?s=46&t=68bCkRlgrZvQ7iKaa5Kn5g

Chris (@leekatv)

Rank 1 Cutoff Apis started working.

I'll work on getting these up on Drustvar tonight.

Here are a few samples. They seem really low? @WarcraftDevs @holinka

US Shuffles:
MW: 2632
Aff: 2543
Demo: 2793
Disc: 2616
Brewmaster: 2531
Fury: 2210
Veng: 1899

RBG: 2383
3v3: 2591

Twitter · Mar 22, 2023, 4:04 AM

[clear fox]

Works out about for 1% with fire mage, 4290 total and about ~1600 of them hit 1k rating. Maybe there are 200-300 more that tagged it or are counted somehow into the pool = 19 mages

which was where the 3011 cutoff was

Wild 179 r1 titles on offer for resto

https://drustvar.com/leaderboard/solo?region=us&sortby=rank

I know across all of wow its not a LOT, but sure feels like a LOT

lol im 8 mmr shy of the current cutoff

and I can see so many areas for me to improve in, like I hardly even track cds and I'm the easiest cc target in the universe sometimes

well see I guess

though I guess, easy title in shuffle but never hand out a mount, if you want a mount go 3s? Could work as a system?

[clear fox]

relatively easy, but still not easy easy

[grand mesa]

I still think it’s 1% and is a typo until proven otherwise idk

[clear fox]

.1% ?

Servers back up, no ret nerf. sadge

[blissful belfry]

theres no way dis real, is there

[grand mesa]

For now it is ya

[clear pulsar]

Maybe stealth nerf and no patch notes yet

Copium

[viscid remnant]

[fair mirage]

Haven't gotten a blue post clarifying but I could see them reworking shuffle r1 at least.

Top 0.1% can unironically be like 5 slots for a spec

Imagine trying to out-fire Raiku, lmao

[grand mesa]

If it’s top 1% I think that would be good for shuffle

But the string for s2 for same achieve suggests it’s top 0.1% still

[clear fox]

Id love to see it, would keep me queuing aggressively late season. Whereas now I've conq boxed the hell out of a shaman and will be messing around on alts if anything

[viscid remnant]

Diddnt they say that alts arent taking spots or

Idk

[clear fox]

Raiku just make some new accounts with other emails then ?

[grand mesa]

So idk what to think. Just need a blue post

[viscid remnant]

Haha new acc mby

[clear pulsar]

1% is sooo many people idk

[fair mirage]

Yes.

[grand mesa]

Idk top 100 doesn’t sound like soooo many tbh

[clear fox]

Its like 180 for rdru right now

[fair mirage]

Idk they're still char specific.

[clear fox]

It feels big, but guess just depends on spec

[crystal forge]

the grind starts now

[fair mirage]

Oh, well. If it's 1% or 0.5% might have a reason to queue shoof again.

[clear fox]

I mean I'd love to see it. An actual semi attainable goal post 2.4k

[fair mirage]

I'm out of shuff rewards aside from like one elite set

[clear fox]

after I snagged legend only thing that would get me to que would be being as cracked as rets are rn

[fair mirage]

ya

[clear fox]

but that would last days (hopefully)

[fair mirage]

if i can throw body at shuff and get title on healer then i'll do it

if it's still 0.1% then pass

[grand mesa]

I don’t think I want to deal with end of season bullshit to even try

[clear fox]

.1% is wildly out of reach for me, .5% very marginal, 1% would def push

[fair mirage]

imagine pushing r1 for the season

and last day some guy wintrades with his buddy

and overtakes u

[grand mesa]

That’s happened to me in other games

[clear fox]

at least its harder in shuffle

but Id be MAD

[grand mesa]

Was sitting firmly rank 1 on ladder then wake up after season ends and I’m number 3

Lmao

2 people just win trading each other back up

[fair mirage]

at least point it'd just be like elite n chill then push glad late season

[grand mesa]

So annoying

[fair mirage]

not gonna be losing hair for the same reward

[grand mesa]

Def stoked about new enchant

[fair mirage]

aw ye

[grand mesa]

Pvpers are simple creatures. Just add a lot of shiny into the game they’ll come

[clear fox]

Hi it me, I like shiny

[wanton ridge]

Obsidian Legend, that sounds cool

[grand mesa]

Better enchants and one thing I’ve always wanted was like a glow aura around u like the anime shit. If that was glad or whatever just imagine 🤣

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-ohearn-my-honest-reaction-blonde-buff-guy-blonde-buff-gif-27704196

[grand mesa]

https://twitter.com/snupytv/status/1638927969061044224?s=46&t=68bCkRlgrZvQ7iKaa5Kn5g

Snupy (@snupytv)

New enchant called Shadow Flame on 10.1 PTR, could be PvP illusion but who knows. Looks awesome

▶ Play video

Twitter · Mar 23, 2023, 3:37 PM

Broooo

[clear pulsar]

Same

Current one is tragic

[wise valley]

yeah that looks really good

[grand mesa]

Might not be pvp ig. We’ll see 🤣

[hollow condor]

Could be crafted from raid like the other ones we got

Or some elemental shit

Looks sick either way

[grand mesa]

Ya

[viscid remnant]

i will not lose to the fomo

[grand mesa]

Haha we’ll see

Brother you were asking about ff14 last night

Do I just copy banks build David

[viscid remnant]

yes

[grand mesa]

Ok

[viscid remnant]

and his weakaura

[grand mesa]

Ok I’m punching butts this weekend

https://twitter.com/thesia_wow/status/1638935083494301701?s=46&t=68bCkRlgrZvQ7iKaa5Kn5g

Thesia (@Thesia_wow)

I proudly present to you week 15 of DF s1:

this specimen was caught in its natural habitat, undisturbed

It's like watching wingless little penguins take flight, i cant help but feel pride 🥲 go go my little rets go get em

Twitter · Mar 23, 2023, 4:05 PM

[viscid remnant]

hahahahahah

[clear pulsar]

Lmao

I feel personally attacked

Just need 500 more rating in shuffle

[grand mesa]

I look at you and think that’s why shuffle is a success idk

[viscid remnant]

?youre saying nobody wants to queue with face

?

[grand mesa]

You just don’t have an interest in playing 2s and 3s

[clear pulsar]

It's possible but also the other way around

I dont wanna q w nobody

[grand mesa]

Yeah he’s a lone wolf man

Nothing wrong with that

Just vibing and playing on his terms

[livid wasp]

theres a ret in durotar who was 2.4k on tuesday now hes 3.2k

wish we could still spit on others

[broken junco]

Make a ret

[livid wasp]

im not scum

[wanton ridge]

/me spits on you but you also spit on everyone else :(

[broken junco]

Ya u r

[hollow condor]

He’s just built different

[wanton ridge]

My paladin got a 421 2h weapon in vault last week, I could get 3k too this week if I just queue as ret?

[livid wasp]

dunno youll have to beat the other rets in the games

[viscid remnant]

ur goingto have to beat the queue boss

[wanton ridge]

I can press HoJ and Rebuke

[livid wasp]

I think youre late to the party

people already quit quing shuffle

[wanton ridge]

Yeah probably

[livid wasp]

if they werent a ret

[crystal forge]

yo some1 q with rog for box farmer

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-dont-hurt-me-mike-ohearn-jokester-joke-funny-gif-27699537

[wanton ridge]

I was hyped for solo shuffle, finally I could just queue up as resto and heal monkeys, but man, losing rating after going 3-3 every time bummed me out so much lol

[stray sigil]

LOL

NO WAY

[livid wasp]

haha

rets being bullied

[clear pulsar]

Yeah these people are mentally ill

Why is it a problem that the ret players are playing the game lol

Why are they the ones copping hate

[grand mesa]

Jealous insecurity

Idk pvpers are always mad

[clear fox]

Someone needs to develop a live que time estimate tool

Now that it’s by spec

Would love to see the gap between Ret and everything else

[livid wasp]

why is it by spec if one game can still get 2-4 rets

[clear fox]

I mean still throws out estimate by spec. Guess still prios fill from other classes so throws 2-4 rets in together since there’s no other choice

I’m def a que degen but this first time in df that I’ve bailed, feel more of an accessory to the dps with low/no impact

[livid wasp]

yeah its really unhealthy for the game

[mortal wyvern]

last night it said boomy time was 22min and i got multiple pops at like 5-10min

[livid wasp]

having a spec this op

only a ret player would have those macros

[clear fox]

ret que estimate 20 min, ele 13 min

honestly expected higher relative gap

[clear pulsar]

[sour sinew]

[grand mesa]

Hahahahaha

I just realized d4 beta is this weekend

Guess I’m not doing much wow Shit 🤣

Druid will be available

[crystal forge]

20 min solo shuffle qs zzz

i just want to pvp man

[viscid remnant]

xd

[clear pulsar]

The double ret

When on my team

Decided that they wanted to chase the mw

All over the map nonstop

2 rets

Chasing a mistweaver

With dk peels

And a demo lock sitting on me

Just on a whim decided they suddenly had to train the mw ofc

[gleaming gate]

Anyone found a good resto build since the reset?

[grand mesa]

A lot of rdruids in the lab trying to find something sensible

Don’t know yet what consensus is

Seems like no tree builds are getting traction tho

[gleaming gate]

I want to climb my druid out of elo hell but I dare not atm. Our nerfs and ret buffs combined scare me lol

[crystal forge]

q with my dk

[gleaming gate]

Did they get nerfed as well?

[crystal forge]

crazy

[clear fox]

Id run these talents for shuffle, mostly plays like before. Im sure someone will cook up a better build & post a guide. But at least for me, for now, works well enough

BkGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAESS0aJJJaUiAJlopokEAAAAAAAAAAAAQRIEgEkEgkQSkGJlkEAAAAAgAAANA

[crystal forge]

no bcgay

unfortch

[gleaming gate]

Thanks! I'm stuck down at 1300 atm which is miserable. I've been so bad on resto this season for some reason

Normally can climb to 1700-1800 but I just suck at healing shuffle on druid. Find it way easier on my priest or pala

[clear fox]

Gear prio master>haste>versa. Just feels like have to be much more proactive on resto, especially with ret, if there isnt a rogue on the other team I've not even gone cat stealth and just pre hotted the universe

[grand mesa]

@pallid coral u see new enchant?

[crystal forge]

32m in q surely please blizzard 1 drop of queue pop

[gleaming gate]

Thanks!

[pallid coral]

Yeah it looks insane

Is it PvP?

[grand mesa]

Not sure tbh

Don’t think it’s confirmed one way or another. But it looks so good hope it’s pvp

[clear fox]

Also making sure you get a big cenarion ward extend is huge with swiftmend. Along with hitting regrowth on a non lifebloom target so you get the hot on all 3. Might know that already, but if youre multiclassing can be the small things that get through the cracks

[gleaming gate]

Yeah I always do that

I tend to lose games to cc

Get cc'd, fall behind, something dies to burst

[crystal forge]

Blizzard probably: why dont people queue our game?
Also blizzard:

[grand mesa]

Make healers want to queue 🤷‍♂️

[crystal forge]

ban fuji

and they prob would

[grand mesa]

Duji is a known healer hater

Actually he’s just a hater

[viscid remnant]

True

[crystal forge]

Puzz when u off work

[grand mesa]

How dare he call tree of life a crutch for bad Druids

Idk they’re prepping this patient now. Atleast 3-4 hours

[crystal forge]

[stray sigil]

just make a weekly quest

[crystal forge]

me not the patient

[stray sigil]

win 20 rounds healing in shuffle

[edgy shale]

shut the fuck up

[stray sigil]

or something like that

for like

500 conq

or something

similar to how against overhelming odds work

dont put play cuz then dps players just gonna int it

put win

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-dont-hurt-me-mike-ohearn-jokester-joke-funny-gif-27699537

[grand mesa]

I gotta farm this ring anyway @crystal forge sounds like they made it good now

[viscid remnant]

Nerf by 75% pvp

Ig ur raider

[grand mesa]

Ya

[crystal forge]

oh

so its bad

ok

[grand mesa]

I haven’t stepped foot in

New zone yet

[edgy shale]

shut the fuck up

[grand mesa]

Get home late go login for raid go to sleep

[viscid remnant]

Pod whats up

[crystal forge]

odds

[grand mesa]

Last 2 nights

[crystal forge]

these are worth in pvp

[edgy shale]

hi

[grand mesa]

I’d play the haste mastery 431

For resto if I had it

[crystal forge]

900 vers

is bigga

[grand mesa]

Vers is overrated

@clear fox true or true

[crystal forge]

i might just go int

a resto game

im literally doing this for box

NVM IT POPPED

OMG OMG OMG

ITS HAPPENING

[grand mesa]

Time to watch

Trevvy streaming

[stray sigil]

man i am watching this 2.5 peak ret

3.3k shuffle now

LOL

[edgy shale]

shut the fuck up

[viscid remnant]

True pod

Pod when r u 2.4

Wait for last week pod

Peak inflation

Should be easy

[edgy shale]

[viscid remnant]

U said u r same skill lvl as me remember

[edgy shale]

tru

[viscid remnant]

Should be a piece of cake then

[clear fox]

facts

[north yew]

lol game is unplayable with ret pallies in their current state xD

[grand mesa]

Oh aff was bugged apparently

[viscid remnant]

If its unplayable

Dont play

Checkmate

[livid wasp]

just make a quick hotfix

make palas unable to bubble

make it unplayable until they have it fixed

[crystal forge]

@stray sigil come q on a rat

[grand mesa]

Fuji queue with Trevvy

[livid wasp]

why are all lock specs so broken

1v1 some demo lock and he destroys me

[crystal forge]

he hates me

[fast stratus]

What are ferals strong against?

[crystal forge]

DK iirc

[fast stratus]

oh good point, I love vs unholy dk

[lime light]

hi

tomorrow is a go day

[fast stratus]

go day?

[lime light]

GO FUCKING DAY

[grand mesa]

Huh

[stray sigil]

ep on the vodka agane

[crystal forge]

@grand mesa its time

i got my DR booties

[grand mesa]

Very nice

[clear fox]

How the que time lookin

[hollow condor]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-doctor-disrespect-disrespect-chillware-okaycool-gif-25566357

[hollow condor]

Welcome to ret shuffle

[lime light]

wake up

[clear fox]

He’s unholy

Feels like every que outside of Ret should be instant

So they can rob your mmr faster

[hollow condor]

I know that but he will still queue into ret shuffle

[clear fox]

Ohh sorry

Misread

But yes 3ret 1 uh incoming for sure

[stray sigil]

atleast u still have spellwarding this patch

[viscid remnant]

@lime light sup ep

[clear pulsar]

Yep he's about to pod out

[grand mesa]

It’s so nice when fuji finally listens to me

And realizes I was right

[lime light]

@viscid remnant we game tomorrow

but FUji has a pala already

tuaren pala

but too poor to make it human HUH?

[viscid remnant]

d4 ya i diownloaded beta

[lime light]

cool

[viscid remnant]

but iam lvl0 cuz no preorder

[lime light]

iam not gonna play the classes i played

they suck

iam full necro and druid

so start from 0

[livid wasp]

fuji, thats so shameless

[lime light]

just with perks

like altar perks gold mats ecc

nad renown 3

so 2 more skill points insta

[viscid remnant]

Yeah i guess ill try druid or something

Or warrior

Or what its called

Idk

[lime light]

try rogue

[stray sigil]

im just lvling

[viscid remnant]

mby

i will look tomorrow

[crystal forge]

@edgy shale come q im so bored

[hollow condor]

I do have a level 60 paladin but I refuse

[crystal forge]

lets play a game

how many tft games can i finish before my SS q pops

[stray sigil]

2-3

[crystal forge]

yo my games bugged

nobody is pink

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

@edgy shale u def need to farm ring now

Lulz

They just keep slapping buffs on this shit

[clear fox]

Still 75% pvp nerf yes

So I sleep

Or nah

[grand mesa]

Ya but if they keep buffing this lol

[clear fox]

If it comes down to it I’ll funnel keys from my rat chars to the main

But hopefully I sleep 😴

Wake me up when Ret nerf

[crystal forge]

I need to get 1400

so i can box gamble

[clear fox]

How you sitting on conquest

But not 1400

It to send not to open

[viscid remnant]

drevvy dont use logic

in pvp

[crystal forge]

i have 700

thats 3 boxes

if i gamble

[grand mesa]

I think they fucked their ladder tbh

Really badly

[crystal forge]

and get 1800 cost piece

i save

1500

conquest

it

to

save

conq

not

send

[clear fox]

Wait self open boxes

[crystal forge]

brainlet

[clear fox]

Tactics

Big brain I see

[grand mesa]

If people are +1000 rating because of buffs how can they nerf lol people will sit

They have to almost do a rollback on rating but they won’t

[clear fox]

Bricked Ret r1 titles

[grand mesa]

It’s just so fucked

[clear fox]

For sure

[grand mesa]

Fuji is so annoyingly ethical about random shit that he doesn’t want to premade with me to cheese trial of style

And vote for each other

[clear fox]

Especially if it’s 1%

[viscid remnant]

hahahaha lol

feji and logic

[stray sigil]

[clear fox]

So many crimson legends built last 48 hours that will sit for all season and collect 1% title. If still .1% with inflation im sure the giga gods will still rise up and claim the spots

[stray sigil]

i unlocked everything

[stray sigil]

ye ret shuffle r1 will mean significantly less

[grand mesa]

Well I’ll say one thing about DF pvp so far

It hasn’t been stale

[stray sigil]

even tho means nothing already

lol

[clear fox]

Can’t rollback, just have to nerf and live with the shame of screwing the Ret ladder for s1

[grand mesa]

Yeah

I mean Shit like this happens all the time and like ofc there’s feral nerfs and stuff

But I don’t think a buff has made rating this free so dramatically lol

[stray sigil]

im telling u

[clear fox]

How many rest have claimed glad mounts? Feels like in 3s it would all be rets at 2.4K+. Like unless you’re a awc/r1 player why would you que unless you’ve got one

[stray sigil]

ret right now

[grand mesa]

Disc buffs were probably worth like what. 200-300 at most?

[stray sigil]

is s5 dk lvl of crazy

legit

[grand mesa]

Rating?

And disc ran the ladder

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/touching-grass-touch-gif-21219969

[grand mesa]

I haven’t queued yet

I will this weekend lol

[opal pumice]

[stray sigil]

just watching ppl on streams

it feels incredibly insane

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/cancer-memri-gif-15284604

[opal pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-dance-gif-18914282

[grand mesa]

Even if Nogard pre beared he just exploded

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/kiwi-discord-cat-insane-cat-insane-danger-gif-25278017

[clear fox]

Disc hard to tell but def felt like overall somewhere in that range. It was GIGA popular. I wish blizz posted better data, I wasn’t fully convinced it was ultra op. My wr was fine enough vs them, or maybe the good discs all rocketed past my mmr idk

[stray sigil]

bear does nothing btw

they have no physical dmg anymore

[grand mesa]

More so the HP

[stray sigil]

everything is holystrike which is holy ithink

20% hp is pure piss

[grand mesa]

This ret wouldn’t touch Nogard for the first minute or minute half of round but would go for Korean swap at the end

And just solo Nogard 100-0 by himself lmao

[opal pumice]

[stray sigil]

i mean ye JV hits for like 120k

[grand mesa]

It’s like if the ret looks like he’s even thinking about moving towards you you meld

[stray sigil]

and procs 2 more dmg abilities

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-american-psycho-erratic-schizophrenic-mood-swings-gif-24784582

[grand mesa]

And just reposition run away in prowl

Lmao

[opal pumice]

[clear fox]

I’m traveling this weekend and I refuse to que till I’m back. GL Rets I ain’t helping the que times. Best be nerfed by Monday, or else might not even que to collect my gem token

[grand mesa]

I need to 3 vault for my last socket this week

This might actually be a LFR all the bosses angle

[viscid remnant]

can do a key and lfr shit prob

[clear fox]

Sounds like an lfr / and a +2 situation

[opal pumice]

[viscid remnant]

[grand mesa]

No shot key night is happening tomorrow night with d4 beta opening

[clear fox]

Probs be the move, but one can hope

If Ret is untouched through the weekend

Ladder gonna be giga cooked by Monday

[grand mesa]

Tbh

We see it tomorrow night or just Monday night

When is awc again?

[clear fox]

Two weeks now I think?

[grand mesa]

I need a guide on new zone

Finally get to do it tn

[pure tinsel]

[clear fox]

Twitter says April 8/9 awc finals

[grand mesa]

But the gauntlet

Ok yeah it’s this weekend

[opal pumice]

[grand mesa]

https://liquipedia.net/worldofwarcraft/Arena_World_Championship/2023/S1_NA_Gauntlet

[clear fox]

Oh my god

[grand mesa]

We got content to watch this weekend while we grind d4 👍

[clear fox]

Now I don’t want Ret nerfs

Just to see the carnage

[grand mesa]

It’s gonna be the shortest tournament ever. Rounds will be so short lol

[clear fox]

And then can get giga slammed on Tuesday

[crystal forge]

s5

is that fated?

oh

[grand mesa]

[crystal forge]

im dumb i forgot pvp seasons and pve season

are diff

[grand mesa]

I mean tbh I think they are pretty much same now

No one says s32 for cosmic glad right

[fast stratus]

jesus

WTB feral survival or mobility buffs

I have feeling like I'm one of the least mobile classes

[edgy shale]

[opal pumice]

[crystal forge]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/winterpelt-totem-nerfed-in-hotfix-bug-fixed-and-no-longer-applies-to-entire-raid-332088#comments lol another wcl reset

inc

[hollow condor]

This patch is quite funny

I also need to do that rep

[pure tinsel]

[opal pumice]

[grand mesa]

https://twitter.com/bigmoranirl/status/1638985009628610560?s=46&t=68bCkRlgrZvQ7iKaa5Kn5g

Bigmoran (@BigmoranIRL)

Data shows average Ret Paladin winrate is 60%+ since Tuesday and representation is up 400%.

https://t.co/7pxXEjXVsL

Twitter · Mar 23, 2023, 7:24 PM

[viscid remnant]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/619596318804803593/827176346165313566/silly_spunchbob.gif

[opal pumice]

[hollow condor]

Hot fixed demo

But leave this OP shit

https://tenor.com/view/dies-dies-of-cringe-gif-25132318

[edgy shale]

full send on ya bol

[fair mirage]

Yeah, boxes out.

Also comp stomp if no conq

can get to 424 from freshly leveled in like the day

rets are starting legend wins at like 415 ilev or something tho

What a rework eh

Shuffle just uninhabitable

Imagine getting into a triple ret lobby on like either resto

just get ran the fuck down

rejuv ticks for 2k, holygodchadx-tich hits hits you for 219k

both do 60k dps while being unkillable walls

that have infinite externals for healer

[crystal forge]

I wish i enjoyed ret

id be working on that over DK

[fair mirage]

ya never been a fan of ret

i play mine for elite set

then lob it

ye

[crystal forge]

hows UH rn? i havent paid much attention to pvp

UH DK has always been my fall back on a toon i could play and i know i would never not enjoy it

but feral pvp rn just feels so ass i cba

[edgy shale]

hi

[viscid remnant]

Hi pod

[broken junco]

YEAHHHH BOYYYYYY

[crystal forge]

only 300 more rating

[crystal forge]

I cant longboard i have to use a nickle board or just skate i always kicked the wheels cuz of skating

[ivory quiver]

never pvp'ed on boomy, what do you do, cleave?

[edgy shale]

@stray sigil

[broken junco]

It's decent you get some shpeed

[exotic wolf]

haven'T had this much fun in wow since ages

unbelievable

and I ain't even playing

[red dew]

good resto shuffle talents?

[opal pumice]

not queing

try Retribution Elm Street 1369 in Reroll City

[stray sigil]

@edgy shale

[edgy shale]

why u stupid and dumb hpuck?

glyphiestro

why do rets have the best defensives in the game now?

[stray sigil]

why do pod have such smol koka

[broken junco]

Yod come longboarding eith ne

[edgy shale]

no id ont do that shiat

[stray sigil]

the only thing pod rides is koka

[broken junco]

Fiji come longbord with me

[edgy shale]

r u wtaching lcs u dumb phuck

[rapid lotus]

saw a ret so 40k in 2v2 against my war

[edgy shale]

why does no1 understand that ret has op defensives

[rapid lotus]

cant outheal that as resto

[stray sigil]

yes

[edgy shale]

why is this guy flding paper?

[stray sigil]

who fukin knows

[grand mesa]

Hello

[edgy shale]

why did he just fold paper

[stray sigil]

they just said why on casrt

[grand mesa]

My entire TL is about rets

[stray sigil]

dumbass

[edgy shale]

im not listening to cast

you stupid phuck

im satching costream

you stupoid phuck

[stray sigil]

bro who cares just make a ret

have fun

its a game

[edgy shale]

wrong

ur so stupid fuji

u think ret is only good offensiver

but wrong

they have

the best defensives in the game

and no1 wants to tlak about it

[stray sigil]

which one is that

[edgy shale]

???????????????????????????ustupid?

[stray sigil]

enlightne me poddy

[edgy shale]

???????????????????????????????????

r u stupid?

[rapid lotus]

bubble, bop, the one where they can’t be slowed or rooted, lay on hands

[grand mesa]

iPod is spamming ?????? While he frantically googles

[edgy shale]

they have plate armor, then they have mulitple talents to increase armor, 10% bonus stam, a button thats just

no

i literally

typed it all out yesterday

[stray sigil]

oh im not saying i disafgree

[edgy shale]

o davider

now i have to type it again ig

[stray sigil]

just makking pod type

thats all

[edgy shale]

they have better

barkskin

its literally

justEXACTLY BARKSKIN

but better

[rapid lotus]

LMFAO

[edgy shale]

1 min cd 8 second duration, usable while stunend, but 30% dr

they have auto wog

[rapid lotus]

YOU THINK BARKSKIN IS GOOD?

[edgy shale]

where its literally like WHI

[opal pumice]

barkskin is amazing

[rapid lotus]

a piece of paper is better than bark skin

[edgy shale]

except they just get a wog that full heals them

[opal pumice]

i only die 0,5 seconds faster with it

[rapid lotus]

LMFAO

[opal pumice]

[edgy shale]

??i said its better barkskin helo? READ

[rapid lotus]

i’m not saying that

[edgy shale]

shield of venreance is a massive absorb now cuz its buffed

[rapid lotus]

i didn’t disagree

[edgy shale]

AND

[rapid lotus]

SHIELD OF VENG

I LOVE PALADINS

[edgy shale]

they also get the blessing of autmn thing or whatever, where they get a massive shields AND constant passive dr

so if ur melee and ur hitting a pally

ur doing like 60% dam AT ALL TIMES

cuz how plate and how much psasive dr

@stray sigil now understand?

[rapid lotus]

why does every class have 1-2min kill cds and druids have one 3min

[stray sigil]

no i dont repeat it

[edgy shale]

lets compare

SI to bubble

similar CDs

[stray sigil]

please co

do

[edgy shale]

bubble lasts 8 seconds

full invincible

SI is 6 seconds

50% dr

explain

[rapid lotus]

pod let me ask you

[edgy shale]

explain

[stray sigil]

but what if bubble gets md'd

then its 0% dr pod

explain that

[rapid lotus]

is HoJ nerfable

[edgy shale]

no

its already kinda bad

[edgy shale]

thats stupid logics. only 1 spec in the universe can do that

[rapid lotus]

you think a 6 second stun on a 45sec cd is bad

all we get is bash and maim

[edgy shale]

yeah, compared to other similar abilities cuz it can be dispelled and those can't

any maghic stun is gonna be worse in general vs. a physical stun

[stray sigil]

its dispellable though

[grand mesa]

I think it’s kinda silly to compare abilities one for one between classes without context

[rapid lotus]

how does a warrior dispel

[stray sigil]

your healer does?

lol

[rapid lotus]

i’m the healer

[stray sigil]

then you dispell it ?

[rapid lotus]

i go resto in 2’s

i’m stunned

for 6 secs

[edgy shale]

pala has to run his azz all the way over to u tho, no?

[grand mesa]

Is hoj 6?

[rapid lotus]

i’m p sure

[stray sigil]

ye its 6

[rapid lotus]

lemme check

[grand mesa]

Oh it is

[stray sigil]

but what does ur warrior do hes not in cc

he can trade ?

[rapid lotus]

do negative damage to the pally

because they don’t take damage anymore

[stray sigil]

how does that make hoj op though

[rapid lotus]

because i’m dead

[stray sigil]

warrior can fear/disarm/parry/bolt

[rapid lotus]

no trink

he didn’t do any of those

[stray sigil]

that doesnt make hoj op if your warrior is braindead

[rapid lotus]

based

coach me fuji

[edgy shale]

literally u asked should hoj be nerfed and i said no cuz other stuns are better

[stray sigil]

na i cba playing druid

[edgy shale]

it would only benefit paly to hvae maim instead of hoj

for example

[rapid lotus]

what is cba

[edgy shale]

cant be assed

he's a stupid lzy phuck

who has no ladies

and never will

vergin

[stray sigil]

you also have no ladies

cuz you are gei

[edgy shale]

cuz vegena is disgusting and should be banned from this life

[stray sigil]

but elephant lookin thing is good

[edgy shale]

yeah, cuz it doesn't smell like rotten fish

[stray sigil]

dont take a shower for a couple of days

[rapid lotus]

i peaked 2.4 in shadowlands szn 2 but can’t get past like 18 this expac

[stray sigil]

it will smell like rotten fish

[edgy shale]

shadowlands season 2

[rapid lotus]

do i just q with rets

[stray sigil]

sl s2 is widely known

as the most inflated pos season ever

i will be honest

[rapid lotus]

:l

[stray sigil]

and brutal

[rapid lotus]

wait

hold on

[stray sigil]

if you got 2.4 in s2

you prob are a 1800 player

[rapid lotus]

WAIT

[stray sigil]

in general

[edgy shale]

fuji is widely known as the most carried and dog shit player in the history of mankind and he cries way too muc

[rapid lotus]

lemme explain

[stray sigil]

im sorry

[rapid lotus]

was season 1

the grey armor

[stray sigil]

i dont remember

was sinful grey

i thought was black

[rapid lotus]

that was mythic

did season 1 go from nathria to sylvanus raid

[stray sigil]

wait druid s1 was brown

with stupid red shit

i remember

no ?

[grand mesa]

S1 was cowboy hat

[edgy shale]

what

[grand mesa]

With red eyes

[stray sigil]

the most dogshit mog of all time

[edgy shale]

ur describing 2 patches lol

[stray sigil]

in all of life

[rapid lotus]

so season 2 was sylvanus raid

[edgy shale]

season 1 was CN, season 2 was sylv

jesus fucking christ sanctum is really

the worst raid

[rapid lotus]

ok yeah i’m boosted then

[edgy shale]

i cant recall

[stray sigil]

[edgy shale]

i can*

so upsetting

[rapid lotus]

why was season 2 so bad

[edgy shale]

it wasn't 'bad'

it was just absurdly inflated

[stray sigil]

not bad just very inflated

[rapid lotus]

how

explain

just steamroll comps?

[stray sigil]

mmr wise

i believe

[rapid lotus]

i never q’ed wirh a monk

[stray sigil]

they just injected

[grand mesa]

You’d go up 150 points by going 50-50 in a sesh lol

[rapid lotus]

if that validates me

[stray sigil]

mmr too fast too much

[rapid lotus]

mmmm interesting l

[edgy shale]

just how rating works. A lot of ppl were playing and everything was higher than it normally is

[rapid lotus]

i get crazy mmr gains now

[stray sigil]

s2 was the opposite

of this current season

[grand mesa]

If you’re talking shuffle

[stray sigil]

now theres not enough injection

[rapid lotus]

a win is like 15-16 and a loss is 10-12

[grand mesa]

Yeah shuffle is volatile and swingy

Oh ok 2s

[rapid lotus]

in 2’s

[stray sigil]

i mean 2s u wont get 2.4

unless ur a r1

this ssn

[rapid lotus]

shuffle is fucking ezmode

[stray sigil]

you play nessper/dno at 2k

or mag/dno at 2k

[edgy shale]

wrong

fuji

[opal pumice]

i only write bear and cat emojis and this is true

[stray sigil]

or petkicks 200 alts

[edgy shale]

why r u so stupid and ignorant

[opal pumice]

[grand mesa]

I don’t think 2s will recover tbh fuji

[edgy shale]

see fuji

[stray sigil]

prob not no

[edgy shale]

everyone agrees

ur dog shit and carried and u need to be annihilated at all costs

[rapid lotus]

isn’t resto just absurdly meta still

or did this mini nerf fuck us

[edgy shale]

resto is in shitter

gg bad spec

[rapid lotus]

yeah

figured

[grand mesa]

I don’t think we’re particularly good now no

[rapid lotus]

they fucked our talents

[edgy shale]

u guys dont even have ur op talant to cary bad druids anymore

gg

[grand mesa]

I don’t think it’s unplayable either

[rapid lotus]

bubble is still broken

[edgy shale]

i dont think id describe any spec in the game as unplayable

except tanks ig

[rapid lotus]

i just press tranquil and heal everyone in solo shuffle

@grand mesa thoughts on new spell

[grand mesa]

Lol even with tranq we lost in that regard this patch

[rapid lotus]

the one that refreshes hots

[edgy shale]

wdym

[rapid lotus]

it’s pretty buns imo

[opal pumice]

[grand mesa]

They changed similar abilities to now do +100% when not in raid setting so it’ll work in arena just like how it does in dungeons

Communion divine hymn etc

Tranq

Except we already had a talent that did +100%

So they changed it to 20%

[edgy shale]

when

wat r u talking about

[rapid lotus]

does feral want bm now with bm buffs

[grand mesa]

Are you talking about invigorate?

[rapid lotus]

or is jungle still surv

[rapid lotus]

yeah

[grand mesa]

it’s always been there

Just so bad no one uses it in raid m+ or pvp

[rapid lotus]

rank 1 started using it

[stray sigil]

bm a lot easier

to play in jg

[grand mesa]

Question is does the hunter want a feral instead of a ret

[rapid lotus]

ret ofc

BM no killshot

and surv did dummy damage

i found more success running with surv over BM

kill shot

ig execute would be proper terminology m

[edgy shale]

ret defensuves

@stray sigil

[stray sigil]

what are they

[broken junco]

Podgorica get long board

[edgy shale]

no

screw that shiat

[grand mesa]

@stray sigil lvl check

Atleast 45 now I imagine

[edgy shale]

hes in

elwynn forest

like what makes sum1 want to level from 0

srsly

u can just farm gold or go outsiude and work and make money more efficiently

[stray sigil]

10

[edgy shale]

stop being annoying

i just said that

he's brain dammed

u dont understand

he's so dumb and stupid

[crystal forge]

@grand mesa wtb q

[opal pumice]