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clear fox
Worthless, Mark of honor/primal chaos x2 (1500 rating) / Inert hearth
must be
Was licking my lips for a phat stack of gold
clear fox
shuffle healer chest looks like
grand mesa
Maybe a new box for being a healer and the most victimized role in wow’s history
clear fox
Ill confirm in like 15
rolling lol tier games to mess around rn
so youre saying run this
and just like slam haste/mastery
haste > mastery now?
grand mesa
I mean
We lost 1 mastery stack when we routinely have 6+ easily
Idk if we throw mastery out now
clear fox
I mean full alt tier so can do anything to see how it feels
I mean like just when option go haste > mastery
all it really is gonna change is 424 bracers/chest
since im yoloing and sending no versa on neck & ring
grand mesa
Oh ur tiering random shit got it
clear fox
Boots & Belt
Going torc & recrafting the OH whenever I play agian
Idk its all the same anyway
edgy shale
@stray sigil i told u ring was op u stupid dun phick
wise valley
any healers here use mouseover?
clear fox
I use a mouse
but I have full nerd mouse with 12 buttons on the side
and use that to target
Im bad at fps I cant click things reliably & fast enough
wise valley
i meant mouseover macros
edgy shale
@stray sigil
stray sigil
<@142673512987885568> i told u ring was op u stupid dun phick
so op its 75% enrfed
clear fox
i meant mouseover macros
Just use like clique / healbot for it?
though puzzle might be able to help
kinda need em for raid
livid wasp
does dh have ms
clear pulsar
Ye
clear fox
death sweep right
livid wasp
ok
livid wasp
hi can you tell me how to climb as feral
broken junco
hi can you tell me how to climb as feral
Yeah play rogue
broken junco
maybe ill make a vulpera rogue
Tauren rogue or nothing those are your options
livid wasp
kek
youre kinda right I dont maim enough
should be using it to stop dmg more
or cc healer if they gonna die
almost 2.5k now
good no-caster lobbies
edgy shale
almost 2.5k now
for what
livid wasp
shfufle
gaunt flare
ugh i hate new resto tree
edgy shale
ret is an actual walking holocaust
u plaued against yhis?
clear pulsar
Going torc & recrafting the OH whenever I play agian
Offhand is the 2nd biggest slot in terms of stats, only behind mainhand, so it's definitely not a great option to use a crafte item on and drop 6 ilvls compared to conq
grand mesa
ret is an actual walking holocaust
Is it?
shiiiiit my paladin is 411 I just need to buy a 2h
clear fox
The stat weights when I pulled them was same as ring
livid wasp
why rets
clear fox
or was jsut secondaries
livid wasp
I hate them already
clear fox
and I missed main stat
livid wasp
are they gonna be the fotm
clear pulsar
The stat weights when I pulled them was same as ring
I have no idea what this means
grand mesa
RET WARRIOR IS BACK
edgy shale
why duck ignoring us?
is this like when mistys psyduck ignores misty?
@stray sigil why
clear fox
I have no idea what this means
-6 secondary's but a sizeable loss in main stat of whats that 19 ?
Whereas neck lost 51 secondary
but no main stat, but dont know relative values
edgy shale
guys i caught up on for the love of dilfs. those twinks m daddys are going off bro
stray sigil
edgy shale
my favorite couple is nate and bobby
i hope those 2 can make it work
but if they dont ill steal nate for myself
gaunt flare
so based on what im seeing the new resto tree is just a nerf
grand mesa
Yes
edgy shale
yes
edgy shale
rdru worse than ev
edgy shale
invig > all
gaunt flare
i dont seem to have the points to take wild synthesis
grand mesa
Holy fuck Ben
Be careful
You brought up secondaries
And face hasn’t stopped typing
In 4 minutes
gaunt flare
do you just drop cultivation then?
grand mesa
@gaunt flare The usual points you drop to make it work is like, regrowth crit, cultivation, one of the tranq talents, or ns talent. A combination of some of those to make nourish fit. That was the case in 10.0.5 too. When I messed with it on PTR it was essentially 1:1 minus germ swapped with invig
clear fox
You brought up secondaries
Im happy to accept Im wrong
and move my gear around for better stats
grand mesa
shanks one shotted kid and dissolved the kid pirates
Who the heck is kid
edgy shale
????mmmmmm?
gaunt flare
hmm so i have to decide between tranq lowering CDs or cultivation
grand mesa
livid wasp
edgy shale
hi zexhey
livid wasp
me reading all this rdruid shit
grand mesa
Ur the only feral left
clear pulsar
and move my gear around for better stats
Offhand has more int than any other slot, and lower secondary stats. It's a bigger stat budget in total than anything other than mainhand. So if you're gonna drop ilvl for embellishments, you want to do that on a smaller slot like jewelry or cloak. If you're crafting items just to have better stat allocation, then whatever.
grand mesa
🤷♂️
clear pulsar
Idk if thats worth anything but
grand mesa
Yeah why are u crafting offhand anyway
U have drakebreaker offhand as a 421 option. And between conq mainhand and offhand u have haste mastery vers and no crit
clear fox
Seems lightly misguided on the value of int
edgy shale
the 10.1 item has conquest and honor variants. did u fuys see that?
clear fox
And figured 421 ->418 and haste into mastery as double bonus
livid wasp
are we going to have to be wary of locks with darkglare up
grand mesa
How many meta shifts have we had in one season
And is this the first season where ret went in and out of meta twice
livid wasp
I wanna learn how to beat locks
edgy shale
cuz ret is op
livid wasp
maybe ill lvl my ret
grand mesa
Level it in NA
livid wasp
if I was rich
edgy shale
i cannot believe i have to do a new zone and all sorts of new bull shit
mid poatch like this
blizz L
gaunt flare
help i keep trying to apply two rejuvs
broken junco
i cannot believe i have to do a new zone and all sorts of new bull shit
Pod complaining about playing a video game
That came out with more content
So you can play the video game for longer and have more stuff to do
Now that's a Pod move
edgy shale
i dont wanna play it for longer or have more stuff to do. this is the point of a wow patch where i log on 3 times a week and raid log
this is making me start a whole azz new zone. thats for 10.1 bruh not now
its ognna burn me out on wow for new patchj
gaunt flare
^
broken junco
Lmao Pod actually does raiding
gaunt flare
i havent touched a raid or M+ since first patch of shadowlands. thank fuck. dont even miss it
edgy shale
wat, ye i was CE all of shadowlands
i raid
i love raiding at start of patch, then kinda hate it by this point
clear pulsar
And figured 421 ->418 and haste into mastery as double bonus
I dont understand what you're saying, it reads like you think 421 to 418 is an upgrade
livid wasp
raiding is a job
broken junco
Raiding Is a waste of time unless you like mogs
livid wasp
I can see it being fun if youre a social butterfly like puzzle
gaunt flare
now that we don't need pve gear for pvp I just have no motivation for it
livid wasp
he is obviously
edgy shale
obviously
@grand mesa is this tru
zechey i also raid
why don't i get to be a social bnutterfly
edgy shale
broken junco
Pod seems like an indoors person
edgy shale
HOW DOEWS PUZZLE NOT
broken junco
HOW DOEWS PUZZLE NOT
Pod go join blood talon vc and start screaming as loud as you can
edgy shale
bruh,
grand mesa
HOW DOEWS PUZZLE NOT
I’m bubbly ur annoying
grand mesa
🤣
edgy shale
no1 who plays wow can be
social butterfly implies ur like a type A personality or whatever and u spend al ot ur time outside doing outside stuff
maybe im operating under wrongf defintiion
also anyone who farmed rep is getting BTFO'd right now cuz jesus
this new zone SHITS OUT rep and there's even a 10% buff
grand mesa
Yeah I think social butterfly and extrovert probably same def. Atleast in my mind
I dont think im a social butterfly. I hate people 🤣
edgy shale
puzzle r u even gonna farm the ring since its not good for healerr throughput
grand mesa
Ya I’ll do it cause it something to do
And it’s good for healer dps in keys
U know
For all the keys I do
edgy shale
im out here doing quests
no idea wat im doing
just farming questrs bro
what the fuck is this life
grand mesa
That sounds fun
broken junco
TAUREN GET TOTEM WEAPONS
grand mesa
livid wasp
what totem weapons
hollow condor
damn warlock cheeked up
grand mesa
Didn’t even notice
broken junco
what totem weapons
Yes
clear fox
I dont understand what you're saying, it reads like you think 421 to 418 is an u...
At the time I did, figured if you 'have' to run 2x embellishments was best to run it in the OH/Ring
but ill get back to staff or just 424/421
and get my torc made
Also dannycarrys primary tree is some WILD tech
Luxuriant soil?
Feels strictly worse than just swarm split and + 2 seconds
idk
clear pulsar
At the time I did, figured if you 'have' to run 2x embellishments was best to ru...
If you're starting from bad gear and the 418s are upgrades, then offhand and ring are good slots
If you're dropping ilvl offhand is not a good slot
Ring is a good slot to craft cuz of the free socket it comes with
Otherwise its a small stat budget slot that is good to drop ilvl on too
clear fox
I mean overall makes sense, was just undervaluing the extra stat budget that went into int
was just looking at secondaries... which as misguided
stray sigil
what will happen to feral
our tier next ssn is def a work in progress
so maybe that will save us
cuz there is no way the current datamnied tier
is what feral actually gets
@clear pulsar am i wrong for coping about that
stray sigil
have u seen the tier though puzzle lol
grand mesa
so bad lkiterally everyone is assuming it's placeholder
stray sigil
its so incredilbly bland
grand mesa
yes
guilty in a wowhead fucking article was like
this is so bad it has to be placeholder
grand mesa
and he even quoted blizz saying that this tier will expand and be morecomplex/powerful than s1
stone breach
is what feral actually gets
Save your anger for the enh tier isn't that one awful?
stone breach
and he even quoted blizz saying that this tier will expand and be morecomplex/po...
Boomy tier is way worse next season
Current tier is amazing
clear pulsar
cuz there is no way the current datamnied tier
On one hand I dont imagine they'll rework as much as people think, on the other hand 4p is basically new berserk's effect so feels like it's early idea that got reused somewhere else so gotta change now
fair mirage
warlock gives zero fucks about who the lobby is aside from fistweaver
as demo anyways
clear pulsar
The worst part is when they dont save
grand mesa
that literally just happened
grand mesa
and ion's like if you want more than 10 just download an addon
bitch plz i don't trust base UI talent screen and DF UI u think i'm gonna load an addon on top of that?
i had to do a shuffle once in DUNGEON build
spring blossoms convoke lord knows what else
grand mesa
warlock gives zero fucks about who the lobby is aside from fistweaver
So which classes are the new truth
Ret and demo?
flop leveling a shaman
grand mesa
im seeing alot of demo ret in 3s lmao
fair mirage
there must always be a metagolem of overtuned abominations
broken junco
grand mesa
i miss DH spriest rdruid meta
broken junco
Amongus
broken junco
i miss DH spriest rdruid meta
Fuck dhs
They can go jump of a bridge
I hope their cats find love in a wood chipper
stray sigil
true cog
fair mirage
Player versus Player
Warlock
Demonology
Demonfire damage from Demonic Tyrant is now increased by 25% in PvP Combat (was 75%).
Just how hard was it hitting
grand mesa
LOL
dew getting knocked up like crtazy for dispelling lmao
looks like it
cdew bouncing up in air
could be flame shock too ig
isn't that baseline now
broken junco
dew getting knocked up like crtazy for dispelling lmao
Dude getting pregnant
edgy shale
stray sigil
broken junco
wow feral is horrid now
Im going to go gank low levels noe
chrome pilot
wat
stray sigil
fair mirage
Oh double mooner that's fun
lunar shell
HELP - Anyone know if Disarm is still effective to hunters / demon hunter?
stone breach
<:CatChest:1082969567585914942>
stray sigil
hollow condor
chrome pilot
theres no point playing atm if you arent a ret paladin
chrome pilot
that doesnt unlock druid mog
chrome pilot
the elite ones go away
broken junco
It'll be funny tho
tepid spoke
broken junco
grand mesa
every match has a ret in it watching streams lol
broken junco
I 1 v 2'd double ret pally comp once
They didn't even slow me once they just tried to walk at me
broken junco
Cog is Pod's brother
🤰
clear fox
i just wanted 1800 but after todays changes it feels impossuble
Give it a few days for some builds to settle out. Especially with awc looming im sure if there is some tech with .7 talents it’ll come out… or if Druid giga shit we will cop that ‘5% increase to healing’ class tuning in a few weeks lol
broken junco
Cog is Pod's brother
My daddy was a cow and my momma was a boy
chrome pilot
Give it a few days for some builds to settle out. Especially with awc looming im...
i feel like its too late in the game for that
isnt 10.1 coming out in like 3 weeks?
hollow condor
My daddy was a cow and my momma was a boy
stray sigil
My daddy was a cow and my momma was a boy
pods bf is his father
hollow condor
isnt 10.1 coming out in like 3 weeks?
no not even close lol
they wouldn't release 10.0.7 with all this ring shit for 3 weeks
stray sigil
they wouldn't release 10.0.7 with all this ring shit for 3 weeks
ring my bol
broken junco
clear fox
isnt 10.1 coming out in like 3 weeks?
No way releases till the whole timewalking thing ends
chrome pilot
No way releases till the whole timewalking thing ends
pardon?
clear fox
pardon?
No way they release before may 9th. Figure there’s no point in handing out 411 raid catch up gear if you’re already in season 2
season likely needs to start by may 16th at the latest avoid too much conflict with d4 release June 6th
But all just guesses, though still plenty of time for 1800! You got this
chrome pilot
im just not good enough
after 600 games ive come to that conclusion..
with the nerfs to feral/dps in general its even worse
viscid remnant
grand mesa
Icogmax
viscid remnant
True
tiny oar
veng 1899 lmao
fair mirage
Honestly if they tweaked it to be like
top 0.5% or top 1%
that'd help fill that
2400 to 3500 void
or maybe not needed
edgy shale
Honestly if they tweaked it to be like
sup
viscid remnant
Pod tweakin
grand mesa
Why is firemage 3011
viscid remnant
This makes 0 sense
grand mesa
Either shuffle is way more popular than we realize or They changed it from 0.1% to 1% By accident or on purpose
edgy shale
wat weem is
grand mesa
If shuffle is this popular that this is 0.1%
Then yeah 3s is dead
They’re not saving it
stray sigil
2600 rdru isnt 0.1% lol
edgy shale
save my bol
stray sigil
imagine ur dannycarry sitting at 3.4
and some pisser 2.6
also gets r1
lmfao
ye but like still lol
viscid remnant
Ye
edgy shale
fuji isn't dominant at all
stray sigil
i dominate ur mom
grand mesa
@vestal citrus I’m bad at math. For 100 players to be r1 at 0.1% there’d have to be 100,000 qualifying players of that spec?
That seems so unlikely
edgy shale
grand mesa
yeah
I mean rsham and demo rn have 100+ people qualify
Each
Rdruid too
Yeah I think this is 1% and it’s either mistake or on purpose
fair mirage
seems like typo ya and 1% instead of 0.1%
although changing it to 0.5 or 1 might not be
outside realm of possibility
guessing is typo
grand mesa
If it’s 1%
That’s nice
Actually achievable goal for more folks
And still p exclusive
fair mirage
ya like even if i were good enough to push 0.1 the queues just seem
grand mesa
Something beyond 2400
fair mirage
demoralizing
grand mesa
Guess we’ll find out soon
fair mirage
ya that's the other thing if it's literally top 10
it's just gonna be like alts and
no doubt people trading off wins
idk if they won't move r1 down just having something between 2400 and r1 would b chill
no doubt 
grand mesa
It’s gonna be so degen in shuffle
At end
People calculated throwing or some shit idk
fair mirage
ya no xuna no arenamate
grand mesa
I sometimes just sit and stare at the queries on the right
Wondering if that make people are actually checking in real time
Seems unbelievable
fair mirage
its rly a handy site for quickly checking
all the default armory stuff is bad
thugger was kind of dated
and barebones
blissful belfry
@clear pulsar have u tried healing shuffles with the changes yet
broken junco
Poggers now it will only cost me 2 wow token to get r1
viscid remnant
<@102094910101913600> have u tried healing shuffles with the changes yet
Dont q shuffle ppl say ret too op
blissful belfry
i mean, dps being OP dont bother me, as long as they dont go 6-0<
broken junco
Dont q shuffle ppl say ret too op
That's why u q as ret pally
blissful belfry
im competing vs the other healer, not vs the dps
fair mirage
queue up
watch gigachad ret kill everybody
get no points
jk ret forgets to bubble once and u win or lose 20 points
broken junco
I might start playing plate class if ret does turn out good
Dk is so fucking painfully slow
My shaman has a passive 60% speed boost all of the time
Druid has the feral 35%
hollow condor
i mean, dps being OP dont bother me, as long as they dont go 6-0<
Rets will go 6-0
stray sigil
ret a bit cooked
viscid remnant
Man pod a little too based today
He starting to improve cuz we said cog is better
The battle of the pods
tiny oar
lollll
edgy shale
lollll
no. @grand mesa no no no no no. they added a conqeust version and an honor version
viscid remnant
no. <@139195873224556545> no no no no no. they added a conqeust version and an ...
Come again pod?
viscid remnant
And fuji is dumb
edgy shale
yes, correct
viscid remnant
Accurate
tiny oar
no. <@139195873224556545> no no no no no. they added a conqeust version and an ...
why u reply to me ur my enemy
edgy shale
cuz i keep my friends clsoer and my enemy clsoer and I will cdserstroy and crush u
tiny oar
never @ me again ty
viscid remnant
never @ me again ty
Pod shall obliterate you
edgy shale
i ca @ anyone including @balmy umbra himself. don't try me
tiny oar
hi god
edgy shale
hi god
tiny oar
i ca @ anyone including <@156187464560672768> himself. don't try me
I am stronger than u even with my testosterone in the single digits
yep legendary
surreal heron
lakerz is god, wdym
edgy shale
surreal heron
those who are fit for god do not wish to be god, it's a catch 22
broken junco
Anyone who plays ffxiv can't even get rid of a spider never mind destroy podlington
broken junco
I forget what religion it was but
It goes something like you yourself is God and when you die the world ends
viscid remnant
hes not strong enough
Pod is strong enough to overcome whatever befalls him
Pod has the strength of a thousand lions
broken junco
Pod has the strength of a thousand lions
If Pod joined a pride of a thousand lions he would come back pregnant
viscid remnant
lakerz is god, wdym
Biblically accurate angel*
viscid remnant
Anyone who plays ffxiv can't even get rid of a spider never mind destroy podling...
True
wise valley
I put the soft on the stove and got fiends on my phone
I’m a chef in the kitchen wit the arm n hammer
Ice cream hoody bathing ape tennis shoes
broken junco
I put the soft on the stove and got fiends on my phone
Slanging drugs isn't fun
wise valley
I don’t do signatures
viscid remnant
Wadf are u even saying man
wise valley
No time for interviews
viscid remnant
Frfr
wise valley
I’m gonna get the paper
Snowstorm or sunny
Bring the supply
Or bring me the money
viscid remnant
Say normal
edgy shale
listen to songs about cum
viscid remnant
Say normal
edgy shale
SAY NORMAL? SAY NORMAL?
viscid remnant
SAY NORMAL? SAY NORMAL?
Say normal pls pod
broken junco
Sunshine ass blaster thinks he's hard fr
viscid remnant
True
viscid remnant
Haha
opal pumice
north grove
question
this 424 quest ring with weird gems
do they work in pvp
and should i get them?
edgy shale
u dun think there could be a good godo for heller dam? even at 765% drungus?
tiny oar
u dun think there could be a good godo for heller dam? even at 765% drungus?
tiny oar
How are u?
constantly on the brink of complete mental breakdown hbu
viscid remnant
u dun think there could be a good godo for heller dam? even at 765% drungus?
Drugur
viscid remnant
Gm <@237412116024393728>
Gm mrface
viscid remnant
gem system ez
Drugur
edgy shale
it is
tiny oar
nice sick I'll check it out
viscid remnant
Feji cried about ret a lot
But feji is a little crier ratata maderfaker biq
True or true @edgy shale
edgy shale
very true
livid wasp
cause ill just not queue 3s for a bit if rets are covered with mustard
wise valley
Gm <@237412116024393728>
I’m good thanks for asking face my long time friend and associate
Turbo szn or what
clear pulsar
constantly on the brink of complete mental breakdown hbu
So as good as ever really
Same bestie
wise valley
dude literally hates me
and i offered to mail him a mouse during the financial US crisis
viscid remnant
gleaming gate
How dead is rdruid with these changes?
clear pulsar
How dead is rdruid with these changes?
The rdru changes themselves arent the end of the world, but rsham got some inhuman buffs and the DPS meta is shifting too so that dictates healer meta somewhat
Hard to tell
There is 100% gonna be more tuning either later this week or next reset
Cuz the game is a mess
gleaming gate
Yeah I saw rsham was buffed to s+++ tier
opaque tree
How did feral do in this patch?
grand mesa
Morning
viscid remnant
grand mesa
any new resto talents?
A good breakdown in pins of state or talent choices. The next few days are probably gonna be tumultuous with meta and builds so it might take a bit to figure out what the general consensus is for what’s best and how to approach new builds
exotic wolf
those addicts just can't stop queuing
relax and see what happens in the next 2 weeks
grand mesa
Hahaha tbh we should be thankful for the addicted queueing
So blizz can see more clearly what they need to change
I’m happy just chilling while others get ramrodded by ret 🤣
viscid remnant
grand mesa
Oh lontar playing druid and there’s an echo raider ret in there lol
livid wasp
it's time to learn disc
livid wasp
think so?
grand mesa
Ya I enjoyed it when I played disc
pallid dagger
tried invig build yesterday
grand mesa
Dpsing hard as healer makes healing feel a lot better in shuffle
pallid dagger
feels weird to play w/o germ
tiny oar
Nice pfp (grey face no space)
WHAT DOES U MEAN
exotic wolf
WHAT DOES U MEAN
pound for pound
grand mesa
Yeah playing the other side will make you better when u play the feral imo
Better idea what your disc wants to do
tiny oar
pound for pound
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
exotic wolf
just joking, dunno if I'm right
livid wasp
he can spam shields with it ok
grand mesa
Big thing I noticed after playing it is disc definitely wants to vibe and just constantly be hitting shit. I’m used to healer races
tiny oar
just joking, dunno if I'm right <:tettleslul:541422589524836352>
profile picture
grand mesa
not being able to hit a melee clump going at it feels terrible lmao
Lontar cracks me up “guys druid is nerfed I’m testing shit sorry” the moment he zones in
tiny oar
lol
tiny oar
I might as well learn it
i give it 2 days before u ragequit and never play it agane
grand mesa
Disc has gotten much better since you played it lakez tbf
tiny oar
it was already pretty good so thats kinda wild lol
tropic schooner
i give it 2 days before u ragequit and never play it agane
optimistic
tiny oar
optimistic
viscid remnant
WHAT DOES U MEAN
grand mesa
Hahaha
knotty surge
dont haha me
im fuming xD
i just had 6 lobbies in a row with atleast one ret doing that shit
you are litterly 80% sure of 3/3 because the ret will win all
tardy hare
haha
grand mesa
Ya
tiny oar
you are litterly 80% sure of 3/3 because the ret will win all
haha lol lmao mdr
viscid remnant
Haha
knotty surge
i will just take a weeks break
mortal wyvern
Watching my buddy climb as a ret in solo shuffle. The sustained dps is insane..
Don't feel like queueing as a boomy and getting trained. I'll break something.
knotty surge
yh idk
if this shit isnt hotfixed by the end of the week i will actually be so pissed
like it is ruining every others games
just gonna level shaman
now ill stop whininh sry boys xD
grand mesa
It’s ok we have a resident zechey we’re used to it
Nothing wrong with chilling and checking out new island or leveling alts while the twitterverse rages about ret and gets that tuning in 🤣
livid wasp
dunno if I shoul try shuffle
tiny oar
LOL
grand mesa
I would not want to a ret main
grand mesa
C to S to C forever to S for a week back to C
mortal wyvern
That one ability they cast that does 25% bonus dmg when stunned
Something with a V
Fucking destroys me
Jv?
mortal wyvern
Yeah like fuck off with that
I logged out
I only started wow in December and everyone tells me boomy was the flavor of the last xpac. Convoke and everything dies. Guess I started late cause it doesn't feel that potent kow?
Now?
clear pulsar
That was only true for like 2 months
It was a meme
And many high rated boomies at the time even stuck to kyrian instead of cheesing with convoke
It worked in tandem with the 'gain crit after entering eclipse' effect
But it was 100% crit back then
mortal wyvern
I see
grand mesa
Ahhhh s1 boomie convoke
mortal wyvern
I just wish we had an immune. Not sure if that would be asking for too much.
grand mesa
And when u procced full moon
clear pulsar
It didnt really last and boomie wasnt that sick in pvp for the rest of the expansion
grand mesa
Which they got rid of in pvp
mortal wyvern
I see.
Idk i love boomy but at times I feel like in solo shuffle burst meta, my kit to cc, etc isn't fully utilized. So then it turns into burst or be bursted
Mind you I'm at 1650ish bracket so could become a bit more tame at higher ratings.
grand mesa
https://clips.twitch.tv/GracefulPrettyAdminPeanutButterJellyTime @mortal wyvern I miss it
clear pulsar
Idk i love boomy but at times I feel like in solo shuffle burst meta, my kit to ...
I think you have to play mage for a bit to reckon that having iceblock doesnt change this a whole lot
mortal wyvern
That's a really good point
clear pulsar
Its just the nature of shuffle
The games have to be very fast and you have to full send everything early to get it back earlier than the enemy team
And uh its a shitshow
Wcyd
mortal wyvern
I'm a noob to pvp and already find 3s way more enjoyable and just... Their cadence is more sensible, if that makes sense. Shuffle is frustrating.
grand mesa
Convoke was never a good damage spell by itself. It relied heavily on a ton of modifiers being thrown on it. Incarn with mastery dbl dip. BOAT (which is the 100% crit thing that face alluded to) etc
grand mesa
I do think boomkin does really good dam currently
Just have to learn how to handle getting trained
mortal wyvern
I think so yeah
Yeah. That's a big one for me. And then tracking where my healer is.
grand mesa
Orbital strike and incarn coming down to 2min is a godsend
mortal wyvern
Are cds changing?
mortal wyvern
Yeah I try too.!
clear pulsar
A lot of your improvement after you've gotten comfortable with the spec will be based on positioning and being aware of your healer's situation
If you drag melees around pillars they either chase and die or you save yourself, if your healer is gonna eat a trap you press bear form, etc
mortal wyvern
Right, I watch streamers play boomy and try and pick on that. If a melee is training me I'll try and Los them from their healer and tell my healer I'm doing it (3s). Etc.
grand mesa
I think the biggest “finesse” thing in my experience is over doing it staying in bear form
mortal wyvern
For sure
I swear I spend too much time in bear then complain about it.
Bear creates no counter pressure
grand mesa
Sometimes you just gotta get out of bear and just bang
mortal wyvern
Yeah. 100% was a big hurdle for me.
grand mesa
Not to mention like. Outside of the frenzy. The armor isn’t doing much for you against most classes
mortal wyvern
This is all good to hear lol
grand mesa
Most class damage is magic
exotic wolf
Nothing wrong with chilling and checking out new island or leveling alts while t...
what is this so called new island my friend
grand mesa
So ur doing it for the HP and frenzy regen mostly
And boomkin form already gives u armor u know
mortal wyvern
Yeah my vigor proc, frenzy, and then I should create a gap by then
Mhm
Appreciate the tips btw guys
I wanna play but scared of ret right now lmao
grand mesa
don’t make the mistake of running tightly around pillars in circles
grand mesa
You’re not kiting / avoiding damage as much as you think you are and all you’re doing is lining your healer and possibly stopping your partner dps from creating any counter pressure
ESP if your partner is caster
mortal wyvern
Kk I will keep that in mind.
I'm also thinking if I start to see more melee cleave builds to switch to a starfall build. Right now I've been running st build I saw whazz using and I climbed a few hundred points like that.
Feels really good.
I never feel like I'm effective with a rot build because of the nature of shuffle.
Lol world of pvp sub reddit had some hilarious posts right now
clear pulsar
what is this so called new island my friend
Forbidden reach the evoker starting zone
Is open now with new questline and a new ring wit hspecial gems
Shard of domination 2.0
exotic wolf
good
cba getting and upgrading this thing on multiple characters
anyone here dipped in rshaman?
I asked for a guide in the shaman discord but they have nothing. their pvp faq is filled with placeholders for resto xD
it wasn't that bad wasn't it?
grand mesa
The specs been p terrible all of DF I can see why from a resource standpoint in that discord there might not be much
Also most class discord pvp channels kinda bad in general for resources I think
viscid remnant
Avg boomer wpvp post
graceful citrus
Hey guys, i stopped wow some years ago as a 2.1k holy paladin.
I want to start again with dragonflight but not as a holy paladin. Now im wondering whats the easier class for arena. Should i play priest oder druid as healer?
mortal wyvern
Ret
exotic wolf
exotic wolf
Hey guys, i stopped wow some years ago as a 2.1k holy paladin.
I want to start...
play what you think looks/will be fun.
don't ask us tbh
livid wasp
I picked the wrong time to farm shuffles
why play jungle with a feral when you can play php
grand mesa
Hey guys, i stopped wow some years ago as a 2.1k holy paladin.
I want to start...
Honestly idk what u mean by easiest. Do you mean fundamentally easy to play or what’s strong. I think rdruid is likely in a not so good spot rn but that remains to be seen. So take that for whatever it’s worth
Lontar tried for a bit and thinks we’re probably the worst shuffle healer depending on if holy priest got alittle better or not 🤣
graceful citrus
play what you think looks/will be fun.
don't ask us tbh
Thank you very much for your Input
exotic wolf
I mean what do you want to hear from us? no offense here.
but that question is stupid
if you want to play fotm look at the leaderboard and check which healer you see the most in the top 100
else pick what you find interesting or fun
and just go for it
what more do you want to hear?
exotic wolf
Thank you very much for your Input
I didn't really read the question with what is the easier healer.
but that depends on your capability as player.
are you good offensive and with positioning?
go priest
are you a great max range afk healer?
go druid
graceful citrus
I mean what do you want to hear from us? no offense here.
but that question is s...
No no it wasnt an offense. I mean it! Thanks for your answer. You are right and im just gonna play what seems fun 🙂
exotic wolf
great. you will have way more fun this way.
and queue arena in 1-2 weeks. take your time gearing 🙂
grand mesa
Good time to come back btw
Comp stomp available. Get geared and ready to shuffle asap
grand mesa
I need them to generate ret complaints for me without me actually playing against the ret
exotic wolf
truest of trues
grand mesa
I’m looking at lost ark rn
mortal wyvern
I need them to generate ret complaints for me without me actually playing agains...
LOL this made me laugh
Solid mis direct
viscid remnant
I’m looking at lost ark rn <:tettleslul:541422589524836352>
knotty surge
@grand mesa i Can send you screen shot of one shot from my 14 games today i have 11 one shots 230k plus damage from ret?
knotty surge
I just hope they bring Them to a okay place i actually love playing with good rets when they are not overtuned
Already did my man 🙂
Even vanguard has asked for nerfs lol
grand mesa
I just hope they bring Them to a okay place i actually love playing with good re...
I just think ret is one of those specs where that either are overtuned or Shit
Maybe with the rework they can actually get them in good place and all they need is numbers tuning
Devoker I think is the same way lol
broken junco
Voker should've had a melee spec
grand mesa
Who knows
But that’s the most click baity speculation
I’ve seen in a while
That wowhead and icy veins post lol
stray sigil
did they hotfix ret yet
naive solstice
hello all, anyone have pvp build for 10.0.7 for resto?
clear pulsar
Yeah the resto shaman one
Check pins but it's troubling times as people play around with the new choices we're forced to make
We're not doing very hot but tthe whole game is out of wack
stray sigil
just play a ret and u will love life
viscid remnant
Csgo2
stone breach
c2s2g2o2
grand mesa
@clear pulsar time to rush B together brother
clear pulsar
Summer 2023
Oh the interactive smokes thing is INSANE
Sub-tick updates are the heart of Counter-Strike 2.
VERY interesting
broken junco
just play a ret and u will love life
Ret pally duo
stray sigil
broken junco
Bah I should make a pally
hollow condor
Bah I should make a pally
DO IT
lime light
big dam?
grand mesa
My paladin already 411 just need an honor weapon 🤔
hollow condor
become what @edgy shale hates
broken junco
I struggle with plate classes they feel so slow
grand mesa
Taxes. Cupid or ret warrior with Mack? 🤣
This doesn’t seem like a huge deal but idk
grand mesa
I haven’t yet still at work
But I’ll take a look when I’m home. Maybe justify buying a new rig now
lime light
iam soo terrible in fps games
clear pulsar
It's more substantial than I was thinking tbh
grand mesa
tulip geode
Cae claims to be the best player on server & best mboxer but he fails even at playing wintergrasp.. lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyr7b0ysLIs
storm heron
how have people been finding the new tree? Is losing germ as bad as we thought?
grand mesa
Face I finally blocked someone other than u
edgy shale
cae u crwzy
clear pulsar
Face I finally blocked someone other than u
viscid remnant
Face I finally blocked someone other than u
who
this guy that posts random shit or
clear pulsar
how have people been finding the new tree? Is losing germ as bad as we thought?
It's a bit sadge times but I think more so cuz of muscle memory and comfort, the rest of the game is just a mess right now
Ret is bonkers, demo is rly strong apparently, rsham got inhuman buffs
So game quality is questionable
When every lobby has a ret going 6-0 and what you do hardly matters
viscid remnant
grand mesa
Cope bright side could be easiest legend grind ever
No matter what 3-3
Just send 33 games or so 🤣🤣🤣
stone breach
i wonder if demo is bugged the same way in pvp as pve
grand mesa
The 5% haste buff for free?
stone breach
all warlock specs have some talent that gives haste and shouldnt
grand mesa
Unintentional haste buff
stone breach
yea
gleaming gate
When every lobby has a ret going 6-0 and what you do hardly matters
People need to learn to cc the ret rather than blindly tunnel them
Now that ret is kinda tanky
grand mesa
I never really watched it
grand mesa
People need to learn to cc the ret rather than blindly tunnel them
Hear me out. Boomkin range and high winds
tropic schooner
it is worse then you expect
viscid remnant
hahahaha
also that guy posted it to alteast another channel
i see it in dh discord too
prob some others
tropic schooner
Yes
This discord banned him once on another acc
Priest discord he got 2 pernas already
tropic schooner
No clue
viscid remnant
mby u gotta be super fried to do that
tropic schooner
It's dogshit content spam advertised
storm heron
It's a bit sadge times but I think more so cuz of muscle memory and comfort, the...
you playing invigorate?
clear pulsar
I'm not that brave yet
To play in this situation
Maybe time to queue one up just for the culture
clear fox
To play in this situation
I played some games on alt, feels overall rough, even at lowe(er) mmr
Shaman seems erm… good
But hard to tell for sure when there’s rets running around cranking galaxy damage
Did run out a sham to 1800 a while back, if it dosent catch any heat maybe I’ll try and sprint to 2.4K and complete my transmog collection. Shaman & rdru should cover every weapon type
Well not 2h sword… but there isn’t one loool
blissful belfry
ignoring the existence of busted dps specs. is rdruid still very good meta shuffle
how much better has rsham grown to
clear fox
Seems healing stream is CRANKING hps ?
blissful belfry
im only interested in rdruids power compared to other healers
although, i think druids have better tool to reduce ret damage than other healers
aint it?
with root and clones
grand mesa
Rsham became insane mw got big buffs seems to be consensus
clear fox
At least how I’ve played shuffle is just staying out of trouble and cranking hps. Currently lost either throughout or peak hps, unless your Just blowing the entire mana bar in no time flat
blissful belfry
oh no
clear pulsar
With ret doing perma 45k+ dps
blissful belfry
fuckin purge
clear fox
And rsham and mw can do similar hps and last longer mana wise
blissful belfry
ya i mean, if the meta is into purge spam, its gg for us
clear fox
Idk what shaman is up to but seems plenty of free time to pooorgeeee
grand mesa
Other healers aren’t GCD locked trying to heal anymore
viscid remnant
@grand mesa true or true
grand mesa
so not they can purge and damage and push for CC. Like if holy priest actually has the GCDs/time to chastise push on us for fear it’s over hahaha
grand mesa
What did u play
clear pulsar
It was the worstp ossible lobby
clear pulsar
Double lock, bm, ret, rsham
Rsham just untouchable by the locks
Legit like perfect lobby for the rsham vs me
I'm not mad about 2-4
I swapped talents every single round @grand mesa
grand mesa
Hahaha
Did u try dropping budding leaves
I think that’s my main question cause if u can do that that actually opens up ok builds
blissful belfry
i mean, if you are guaranteed to have bloom purged... maybe u drop budding. but then. maybe u just forfeit too
clear pulsar
This felt quite nice for sure, but I lost that round
