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man
windshear
2s lockout
thats kinda fuckign dogshit tho uh
and i still dont understand the zerk change
@clear pulsar
Berserk has been redesigned – Go Berserk for 20 seconds. While Berserk: Generate 1 combo point every 1.5 seconds. Finishing moves restore up to 3 combo points generated over the cap. Shred and Rake damage increased by 50%. Combo point generating abilities generate one additional combo point.
New Talent: Thrashing Claws – Shred damage is increased by 20% to bleeding targets and Shred and Swipe apply the Bleed damage over time from Thrash. This talent is a choice with Merciless Claws.
are these any good
does this mean shred gets a 75% buff next patch while in zerk vs bleeded target?
wonder if that makes it do anydmg
lol
I think it's interesting at least, it changes up from just being shred bite infinitely, it gives you constant CP generation that isnt reliant on energy but if you have energy you can still just spend it
whats the 3 cp thing
is that the cp u get back after 5p finishers
i dont understand it
It generates 1 cp every 1.5s, and only those can be refunded
Kleptomania (PvP Talent) has been redesigned – Unleash a flurry of disruptive magic onto your target, stealing a beneficial magic effect every .5 seconds for 4 seconds. Castable while moving, but movement speed is reduced by 40% while channeling.
refunded how
But if you only generate 2 cps that way cuz you pressed builders for 3 cps
Then you only refund 2
Wdym refunded how

@clear pulsar New Talent: Thrashing Claws – Shred damage is increased by 20% to bleeding targets and Shred and Swipe apply the Bleed damage over time from Thrash. This talent is a choice with Merciless Claws.
doesnt this kill bt even more
since ur not pressing a global on thrash
Ask @pallid coral
But he’s probably combing over this already and getting a ton of shit rn lol
I suppose in aoe yeah
But if you're running LI and Brutal Slash
Then you still trigger BT pretty easily without efficiency losses
So I dont think it changes anything
But atm BT is also not bis single target anyways

nerfing RP and the berserk changes probably help bt a bit
its hard to get a mental picture of how this berserk plays
its 60% atm
well they also buffed it by 5% baseline
I hate it when people say this lol
its a piss ability though
no you don't
Combo point generating abilities generate one additional combo point.
What the fuck do you expect from a buff tho?
last line in the berserk
change
You want a 200% buff or what
its in a 3min cd?
whats buffing a 9k hit ability by 50% do
ok
no no
do you have any idea
how insanely huge the modifier on shred is
from berserk?
But its not doubled crit anymore right guilty
i'm pretty sure its the largest single modifier in the GAME right now
atm on live berserk is like a 600% modifier on shred
and it still does no dam
it's moronic
im not understanding ur point
@viscid remnant fuck man they’re bringing back the stupid ducking 2 walls Shit for evoker
because you're not looking at frenzyband damage
From beta
i mean sure that also got nerfed and requires u to have good uptime
not entirely possible all the time
so it is what i typed
So yeah I suppose it counts if you like
Sit 6s of cc
At 5cp
You get a 3cp refund?!
Is tranq supposed to not stop abilities that are already in the "air"?
Yeah its like turtle
no
uh yes
didnt see the not
if its in the air before u tranq
its gonna hit
Yeah Ive noticed
Stuff is calculated when it goes off.
que?
Well
That’s alittle diff I think
There’s a window where your immunity doesn’t apply right when u hit tranq
Players can now purchase Crests of Honor and Trophies of Conquest from PvP quartermasters in Valdrakken. These tokens cost 525, 700, and 875 of their respective currencies and are used as Optional Reagents when crafting armor and accessories of identical costs. Items enhanced with these reagents will gain the ability to scale to their appropriate PvP item level in Arenas and Battlegrounds.
Developers’ note: Our goals with this addition are to enable a broader selection of embellishments to be viable choices for players of all ranks, offer more opportunities to customize secondary stats via the missive system, and enable the use of Tinkers in Unrated Battlegrounds without concerns of the power discrepancy.
@stray sigil no more PVE for u piggy
So you can get CC and your shit cancelled even if you hit tranq and it goes on CD if it happens right when u press
Small window tho
Yeah I think someone tweeted about it a while back slow motion and the keeper of the grove buff for immunity doesn’t apply until alittle after ur tranqing
Probably just a bug no one knows or cares about or doesn’t happen enough that it’s problematic
Yeah
The patch is huge
I love it
The cc duration changes are goated
100%
And klepto change

No feral healingb uff tho

Klepto change. Change on the kick lockouts
I think some of these changes were for healers and good for healers
Less CC. Less punished on lockout
I think we’re gonna get a separate blue post soon aboht shuffle and state of arena and 3s
By far the best line in the patch notes
Raid Frames will now show more buffs depending on the size of the frame, up to a maximum of 7 (was capped at 3).
Raid Frames will now show more buffs depending on the size of the frame, up to a maximum of 7 (was capped at 3).
HAHAHA FINALLY
Do you love face that they gave us 7. Which is exactly the number we would have needed
IF THEY DIDNT TAKE GERMINATION AWAT

Idk ur the enchancement main u tell us
idfk
Explain to me what this means I don’t get it
We can now turn pve gear into pvp gear?
you can buy a thingy that makes lariat scale in pvp
Yeah so you can buy a 525 conq reagent to use on craft rings necklace wrists cloaks
do u think
700 to use on the 700 items etc
so i can just
use my current lariat
and use that shit next patch or w.e
or ill have to recraft
That’s actually such a bis change
That means I won’t need to pve if I really didn’t want to
ya wheres the focus drop rate inc btw
And be fully optimal for pvp
XD
outside of earlier tier set yea
what if u just made ur character
You just slap your shitty fucking base ilvl lariat with the new crest and boom it’s max ilvl if you’re 2.4
not if youre 2.4
you just pay the honor or conq cost
Lordy lordy these changes 
U happy duck
Bout to fotm into a wizard cleave
They seem intentionally healer friendly
Gonna stand in a triangle and parse every game

Yeah, back in BFA I asked some people what to play if I didn't know much about pvp and just wanted the dragon and they recommended Warlock. 
M+ is dEaD to me. No +16s required for the minor upgrade in 418 signet
I can safely quit raid and pve if I so choose without fomoing about losing easy access to pve shit I might need
Is there anything other than Earth Shile and Riptide to track as rsham on raid frames?
waaaa my 0s cooldown interrupt has a shorter lockout waaaa
wadf 2s is piss
Why do you care you never sheared anyway because ur pod level at a1/2/3
wrong im goated now
boomy termorisr?
im not a pig
piggy?
woyer?
Update my dad called me, was sounding very cheerful, I thought he remembered my existence with no ulterior motive this time
Nope

Sign some other document
Hah its aight
He was great when I was a kid we have good memories

For now, Riot Games has not revealed an exact release date for the upcoming League of Legends MMO, but it will likely be released mid-2024 or even later since an MMO takes a lot of time to perfect.
🙏🙏🙏🙏
Ig thats his reaction

Poor whaaz
Not like the first huge pvp video in vanilla was called world of rogue craft
Highlighting a rogue killing people with no gear on lmao
@grand mesa i am going back orc on shaman ig
And they’ve been insane since
Same for my warrior
orc is bis again
And priest
Fuck rogues
FUCK ROGUES LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Pod probably upset rogue got nerfed harder than warrior
why wtong fuhi mad abgeey?
no shit
doesnt fix core problem with the spec
It’s cause ferals in a good spot
therrs no probkr
n dynb vrsiblter
My change for 10.1 is a change to how my ability looks on the action bar
Ffs
stupid piss
xuz ur dumb abd stypod phivk
Ok
byut
also
buffed by 50%
seems like a nerf overall ?
not sure
@clear pulsar u are math god help
why nerfed netherwond armor?
BRO WTF?
BRO WTF?
why spruest they cyanged so much
remoced damnarion
remoced instacast da?
why
wdym
Yeah my buddy is sending me screenshots
maim and kidney are aame now?
krechen?
wrong
alwaysd been
wrong
@edgy shale
at work lmfao
aotc or mythic?
god I hope so
tony isnt using PW in 3s
fuck that
uh probs the raza mount or maybe mythic
no shot they dont make a mythic exclusive
I’m hoping fuji really likes enh and wants to push 3s
aotc is last tier
But I doubt it
no mythic mount sucks
and its a raid boss so probs not glad
wdym
they probs saw everybody farming raz for the appearance
Maybe if they fix LFG or similar I’ll actually dumpster dive for a team
aotc last tier wadf u means
no me want mythix only mount
lame asf yherrs none yhis tier
I like that they made the mount this tier available to all
never one first tier
Nah aotc+ imo
??? ppl who get ce shpuldnt ne rewarded with a mount? u make bo sebse
the effort for aotc vs ce ie massive
Eh I guess I don’t care that much if there is or isn’t
A mount reward
But I also don’t care about mounts
Or else I’d have tried way hard for an SL one
Those looked nice
You’re right. You won’t. We will get it 
BM is meta we just need Fuji to stop being depressed over feral
i think its weird u guys didnt farm out mounts for ppl but if no1 wants it thrn eho gives phuck ig
wrong
texass ur dumb
Literally no one cared
u watxh ppl get brick pn head
He not depressed or BM not meta 🫣
fuji is a srypis dimb phuck
And if he’s forced to play something he doesn’t like and it’s going meh he’s gonna tilt
Off the face of the planet
fuji has syphillis from when he fucked a camels hump
wrong
no
Very simple
fuji isnt a real druid player
they will put beam on the tree
hes just cringe bitch
u havent
3 years or seomthing ?
at all
Let fuji enjoy playing something else
3 years is 3 xpacs? lol
He’s actually excited about a class for once
ok fuji
Lmao
no he isbt
thyme doesnt like me 2 much
fuji litrrally stop lying
I like thyme
3 xpacs wood mean legion
Idk if he likes me tho lmao
i like Thyme
U are LYINg cuz u dint watch s3
🐷
M+ Mount people going to be fuming
no idea if Thyme likes me either ahahaha
if u like him ur kinda weird
dont like how he speaks to ppl
but w.e
to each their own
i suppose
Thyme ehs a cool guy, doesnt afraid of anything
u pod posted
so ahrd there
wait
face thinks zerk is a good cd?
you like the swirly thing?
isnt this zerk

duii ur eunb ohukcj idiot phuck
less shred dmg
over this dogshit this xpac ye
I think this design is better than S1
wrong
u dont ecen have ksm cuz 40k hubter dam
true taxes is floor pov
I will still get it but that is funny how people were bitching saying it shouldn’t be a ground mount
I do have it dummy head
Fuji what comp you want to play. Turbo or beast cleave!!
o wow
Can’t even take pod seriously until he watches S3
thats a lovely warbrunger nerf
true
@vestal citrus @fair mirage @floral willowior WE DUBBED BOYS
iodk why he didnt watch s3
Isn’t that pretty much all there is right now
theres def a bunch of casters now
watch s3 dumass
Back to bolting people I guess.

warrior nerfed my brothee
Time to dust off old reliable.
blindpod
they nerfed everything about their cc
2 secunds kock
its legendary
dumv phuck
glyphiestro warrior nerfer
Uwulting people
legendary
glphiestro spittin rn
texass does 40k dam to first pack then leCea key
warbringer got neutered
like 150 ap to 40
and pummel nerfed
ye
We eating
ye
healers are scum
who must be annohilated at all cksts
Roar of Sacrifice is now a talent in the core tree as a choice node against Hunter’s Avoidance.
Thank god
Honestly I feel like every time I've been like "okay we'll turn it around" on a group that wiped a few times early we just disbanded later.
I wouldn't say that I'm okay with it but I understand.
Feels bad to waste 30-40 minutes.
Keys in general honestly kind of shitty. Get to last boss, rogue ints to some dumb shit and leaves despite being able to time.
Because he's ilted.
Zzz
ya sitting there with galaxy dam
and they pull 1 mob
wish keys didnt feel like the biggest timesink
sit around waiting for key i need
join and it gets bricked insta or
30 minutes in
get zilch
@stray sigil the windfury change is a wash
It’s same dmg but increases base windfury dmg
das right
wdym glyph
people will learn
warlock being bad for 1 season
about wizard hell
I'm prepared
“Critical strikes now deal 150% of base damage and healing in PvP combat (was 175%).”
Well
Inc damp
ya nobody dies
mid high mmr gonna be straight pve i feel like
this is the fate we chose
changes nothing ?
No it changes base dmg but proc dmg will get you to the same value
You will do say 150 start vs 100 start
And both will get to 300
At 5 stacks
dumb phuck texass
ye
But will take an embellishment slot
why not boots?
most embelish are useless
i thought u could upgrade ur old embellishs
They’re removing CC reduction?
From gear
and will zerg combs just rule
wat is texass talking about
YES
liar phuck
liar phuick
what is trinket bonus then?
just dam?
so, there's nmo melee version of precog
just melee get fucked?
cc reduction from boots only add to the trinket bonus
Oh so basically nerfed everyone’s CC into what the reduction we had
For S2
fuji is dumb phuck
fuji ur dumb phuck
I mean durations are the same
did tyhey nerf stonebolt?
Unless they nerf racials
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@north grove https://justpaste.it/bbnwi here
Kept my hunter Orc
no

MAIM?
its 5s for kidney + 20% from orc
FERAL TIME?
Just some updates to grid profile to work better in raid and with pets and with absorbs
vs 6 rn
then why is maim
I mean from S1 trinket bonus to S2 no trinkets
nop
wats better
Ok so they made CC duration even less than Orc baseline lol
texass stop being ignorant
Go watch S3
i already did
glypghiestro explain me the priest changes
why did they remove
instacast void form
and remove
damnation

@vestal citrus they collected that dark iron dwarf money
Now they’re gonna collect that orc money
true
prob because shadow priest was dumb
assa sp is a digsuting comp
damnation and insacast voidform
orc->dwarf->orc
they rework some shit
ok but why remove damnation
cycle continues
THEY REMOVE DAMNATION WHY
cuz fuk
because it was stupid
Just your bi-expansionly spriest rework not a big deal
U
why daf was it stupid wadf
its like worse than void crash
spriest should get a 50% dam buff and -50% dam taken buff in shuff
u should git gud
who agrees
from 1500-2700 its the worst winrate shuff spec in the game
FUK POD
its legit
FUK POD
40% winrate
when u get to 3k the players are insane enuf its good
why

pod coming thru

@stray sigil did u see fly vs. tl?
does hidden mmr move super slowly for SS healers? only started today, but feels like i really should be gaining more rating than i am
Yeah, easier/faster as dps.
WHAT
Unless u massively gap other healer I think generally it's just a slower time
definitely not faster lol
ye lol what a stomp
thats tough, cause dps queues at low rating are super long, but its also extremely obnixious having dps that suck ass when i know i could carry as dps also
wdym
If everyone is same mmr and cr, the "base" gain is 40/60/80 for 4-2, 5-1, 6-0
??
72 isnt rly notably lower
fly got stomped
how
pyosik fuckibng sucks'
but
why remove damnation
watch s3
SO YOU HAVE TO CAST
i already did
void crash exists
INTO INSTA VT
New PvP Talent: Rain Dance – Healing Rain is now instant, 20% more effective, and costs 30% less mana.
Is this Druid flower basically
sp still needs to cast al ot
When he’s being podiment
Idk when pod is being stupid I just ignore until he acts normal
how is it podded to rando remove one of the best talants of a spec that isn't evne omega overperforming
ur the dumb one
u know notin
He has his moments
And then I find him an interesting and engaging lad
But most of the time he’s having a stroke
🤣
puzz u have rancid bommer opinions
gg
“Raid Frames will now show more buffs depending on the size of the frame, up to a maximum of 7 (was capped at 3).”
bro
why do so many people go into the spec chammels and bring up the changes as if every single other person in the spec chammel hasn't already seen it
i legit want to knwo what sgoing on in these ppls brains
like its news after 3 hours
Because they just saw it and they’re excited to talk about it
It’s only a problem for the terminally online discord people like us
ye wanting to talk about it is good, but the fact they post thr changes like its news
Yeah
its not news lol ppl were talking about it 5 lines up
People don’t scroll up u know this
Man
Are those feral changes a buff or nerf for us
They’ve changed our class like 3 different times in a two month span
Same with Boomkins guardian and to a lesser degree resto
But that’s to be expected when like
We were the first draft of trees and the shittiest
Are these buffs?
I’m just glad they’re tweaking at all
Seems like a nerf
It’s annoying af tho like everytime I get used to playing the new changes they fucking announce different ones
Sigh
Now I gotta wait for the patch to release then snupy to make a rotation video then practice it then after a few weeks I’ll get it down
Then blizzard will announce some other dumbass changes
Man I gotta life outside of wow lol
?
wtf is enjo saying
The rotation isn't even going to change
Just keep up dots
Press brs
Learning what basic damagur buttons do is generally pretty quick and easy at least to get reasonable pressure out
True
Ofc there will always be cracked people who do more but that don't have to be u
I just need th em to slow down doing too damn much
Meh I like these frequent changes
ya rate of tweaks is decent
Too fast
imo these changes should've been in before df shipped
might be bad for high end but more newbie friendly
wdym
well yeah
more zug that's also more reactable
everybody just parsing on each other
@grand mesa i am 66 1/2
rmp will always exist in some capacity i feel but like
just making the game more emphasis on doring damagur
If I had to sacrifice jungle and all ferals for RMP to be dead and stay dead
I’ll take it
makes it more approachable
Jungle been dead
.
We love it
Maybe more healers will play
In a slightly less aggravati jt meta
And then solo shuffle queues are kinda fixed
but like i don't get why ythis change would be bad at tjhe higher level when the higher level is current being completely dominated by rog
Rogues just need to be deleted
Then all these changes wouldn’t need to constantly be made
Lol
3s is a problem that solves itself with non idiotic moves on inflation
wrong enji
Oh word
That's a dead dream at this point
enji
why. Plenty of people want the mount. If they flip a switch and it’s like unchained
ur brain isn't even processing that
damnation got nerfed
removed
can u even process it?
They don't want it enough to suffer lfg
Yeah sp is probably dead
Idc about sp anymore
I was playing it so I had queues
I don't have queues
wdym
I don't have queues on feral or sp
But I had queues on sp for a while
So I was playing sp
Now I have none on both
So I don't log in
when u play shadowpriesty u can't play damnation
it's buff to damagur spam
its a buff to waryor
which my smol peanut brain enjoys
depends on overall climate
they removed hte talent htat makes DA instacast
in general i'd say ya but
i don't understand why
warr into doub wiz is sufferin
tru or tru
sry warr into double wizard with hands is sufferin
warlock = war owns him
caster into double warrior is sufferin
actually not sure if i ever queued into double warr
@stray sigil office rewatch skip s1 or not
Kinda cba s1
Way too cringe
idk i watched it
double arms even
but skipped parts i think
Ppl that say tw 60-70 is 3-4 hr are cappers
and ur NOT EVEN SUPPOSED TO HAVE THAT BE POSSIBLE
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Someone do tw on my druid for 400k
i did 60-69 in 3 hours then i did crafting+BG for the last level
I dont hate s1 its just like relying too much on cringe
I don't want leveling advice I want a PL
it woulda taken longer if i didn't get a good group where we just perma Q'd
i didn't need to wait
cuz i have a group
had*
nope
it was 3 hours
60-69
i spent a while 69-70 cuz i did BGs, crafting, and sparks quest
U are diluted
bro
timewalking dungeons take 10 min
and its 1/2 a level per dungeon
just do the math lol
i literrally just told u
Literal coper
Keep smoking
if i didn't have that, it prob woulda taken longer cuz of Q, ye
and naw it never took longer than 10 min, the tank just pulled whole dungun each time
the longest 1 was prob botanica
but it was still fast
Keep coping
WDYM
wtf are these 10.1 changes
I kinda like it
The purple one looks like one of those outfits you'e end up with questing in outland in TBC
Except for the helmet
HOW DO U LIKE IT
but yes the helmet is a pretty central feature
massive fucking hemlet
i love when my dps die in the opener with full hots, ironbark, swarm, rooting bm pets, and cycloning both dps on rotation
low rated SS is actually so lacking in braincells
did anyone expect anything else from solo queue?
Cant say Im a big fan. Then again feels like everything that gets released I hate initially then somehow end up liking it. Same with irl stuff, hate some random new bicycle design and then own it a year later
ya low mmr shuffle is sufferin as healer
Like how low mmr?
i think healing is suffering at all mmrs
That kinda makes sense tbh
But idk shuffle
Way too sus
Was gonna drop some rando tips but like wanted to scale the answer to the mmr a bit
1400 atm, i'm 66/126 and keep getting hardstuck 600 agmes playeed teammates

i was stuck 1400 for like 100 games on my priest then fixed my build and went up like 600 mmr in two hours
my head was actually breaking
You got a vod or anything can watch? If not its really easy if you have an nvidia card with shadowplay. Helped me realize I was doing some DUMB moves. Just hit like rolling 15 min and save the vod. Or idk just stream to twich and saveit
i promise i'm not doing much wrong, other seasons i easily push 2/3s to 1800 with minimal gear
But anyhow at 1400 Id straight up just not cast clone, at least not in the opener. If people full goon just go overgrowth -> tree and send it with heals
i'm actually just getting so insanely unlucky with teammates
Can you link your char for talents / gear ? I mean easiest would be with a video tbh
i just get teammates that dont know how to press buttons
Ben no longer lurker
playing broccoli build, standard
verdancy, i should maybe play nourish since pp laren't sitting in efflo/helps keep noobs up
wat ur saying makes no sense. ur insanely unlucky with teammates yet the enemy healer literally has the same exact teammates as uy
@grand mesa Puzzle dropping the one of us gif and I was in
ur not playing vs. the dps, ur playing vs. the enemy healer
🙏
Mw or rdruid



