pvp

[grand mesa]

I wouldn’t even use the mount

[livid wasp]

glad mounts are too big

[hollow condor]

The otter/rat mounts are my favorites

[fair mirage]

i love sl drakes but they look janky on the ground

[grand mesa]

DF customization mount is the only reason why I thought it would be nice to have

[tiny oar]

KITTY MOUNT IS BIS

[fair mirage]

df glad looks clean ill never get off it

[grand mesa]

Cause I’m on a giant dragon anyway

[hollow condor]

The M+ mounts are too big too

[grand mesa]

But normally idc. Never liked drakes. Too big and bulky. Gimme small mounts

[livid wasp]

too bad df glad is impossible to get

[hollow condor]

For now

[grand mesa]

I’m sure it’s reskin colors and we’ll get me of the seasons be giga inflated

[hollow condor]

Unless they ninja juice the ladder

[grand mesa]

Wouldn’t be surprised if they make huge adjustments in s2

[fair mirage]

ya for sure

[stray sigil]

i think even if they injected mmr

3s would still be dead

[hollow condor]

Idk

[fair mirage]

most peeps cant get glad

[hollow condor]

If people realized it was juiced

[fair mirage]

and they can get other stuff in shuff easier

is the issue

[hollow condor]

Might queue it

[grand mesa]

Whether it’s % based or they up front announce insane inflation and they intend for top 5-10% to be glad. So people actually know about it and play

[stray sigil]

ppl dont wanna spend hours in lfg

[livid wasp]

that would be good, %-based

[grand mesa]

% based is good for seasons like this. But would have felt bad in unchained

[fair mirage]

or find regular partners mmm

also wish they added ground mount to 2s

like the maw rats in sl had armor colors that matched the glad drakes

could've used those 🐀

[grand mesa]

I just don’t think the rewards are worth the grief for aspiring players unless they’re perennial glad getters already. So why not shuffle instead

[fair mirage]

instead cringie torghast

[hollow condor]

Why not recolors of armor per bracket

Could also do mounts that way too

[grand mesa]

Idk I just don’t think tweaking rewards is the right approach. Have to fix LFG somehow and the accessibility. The underlying issue is way more important. Or else it’ll always lose to shuffle

[hollow condor]

I mean the biggest thing is being in LFG while you’re doing something

[fair mirage]

i HOPE they do diff glad drake armors

like they use all four mounts

instead of just recolor of highland

although that'd b fine

[hollow condor]

Like why can’t I look for a M+ key while doing LFR

[edgy shale]

wrong

[hollow condor]

or arena while looking for other shit

[edgy shale]

texass

[hollow condor]

Like shuffle.

[edgy shale]

@stray sigil u failed ur test today cuziodipm

[stray sigil]

my wat

[livid wasp]

need to be rank 1

[grand mesa]

You failed your test today because you’re an idiom

[edgy shale]

yup

[stray sigil]

i didnt have a test today tf

[edgy shale]

ur srypid fuji

u fail all test

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

Fuji failed the greatest today of all

Do a session without flaming David

[edgy shale]

why flane facoder

[grand mesa]

But yeah @fair mirage. Idk. It feels like the arena is the best and worst it’s been in a while. It feels fucking weird

Can’t explain why

[fair mirage]

right? lmao

i love the gearing

alts are chill

random bgs chillin

shuffle is cool

actually kind of numb to balance bullshits because it's just easy to play

[edgy shale]

why flame dacidrr

@stray sigil fuji wats ur thoughts on ohio

https://twitter.com/leekatv/status/1625200936925949953

Chris (@leekatv)

Approx players over 2400 in 3v3 2 months into the season.

             NA | EU

BFA S4: 124 | 180

SL S1: 2823 | 3560
SL S2: 1339 | 1682
SL S3: 1001 | 520
SL S4: 653 | 436

DF S1: 349 | 323

Likes

117

Twitter · Feb 13, 2023, 6:31 PM

tru or tru

[royal spindle]

Wasn't this shared here like an hour and a half ago

[edgy shale]

[stone breach]

https://twitter.com/leekatv/status/1625200936925949953

Chris (@leekatv)

Approx players over 2400 in 3v3 2 months into the season.

             NA | EU

BFA S4: 124 | 180

SL S1: 2823 | 3560
SL S2: 1339 | 1682
SL S3: 1001 | 520
SL S4: 653 | 436

DF S1: 349 | 323

Likes

117

Twitter · Feb 13, 2023, 6:31 PM

[royal spindle]

Gottem

Sorry im salty so im being passive aggressive

[edgy shale]

https://twitter.com/snupytv/status/1625269607803064326

Snupy (@snupytv)

Updated shuffle tier list for 10.0.5

Twitter · Feb 13, 2023, 11:04 PM

tru or tru

[grand mesa]

Already a pvper

[stone breach]

one of us one of us one of us

[grand mesa]

Let the hate flow thru you

[royal spindle]

Man at 1100 rating I lost 250 fucking rating today

[edgy shale]

[royal spindle]

Fucking mordor apes man

[stone breach]

post vods

[royal spindle]

I'm not streaming them

[fair mirage]

1k mmr is guys that look like this dying opener every game

[stone breach]

[royal spindle]

But like how do you join a shuffle, see arms war ret pal resto sham, and collectively agree for 3 fucking rounds "let's go war"

[stone breach]

but sometimes that guy is a hpally and that's the easiest 6-0 of your life

[fair mirage]

bunga mmr isnt fun like it is in other games in shuffle it legit just ends 10 seconds in cos 1 guy gets fucking bodied

can't even play the game

[grand mesa]

Tbh rdruid kinda sucks for carrying. You’re probably most dependent on teammates across all the healers

[royal spindle]

A little bit ago I went into a lobby with 3 mages and a hunter

[grand mesa]

Can’t really dam don’t have incredible saves susceptible to cc

[royal spindle]

And now I have to climb back to 1k before I can go back to earning mount percent

[fair mirage]

[stone breach]

[grand mesa]

I think you’d have an easier time as like disc in that elo. Atleast u can dome the opener or dbl ps. Then idk kill someone yourself

[fair mirage]

climbin as dps is like

5% the effort aas heals

i swear

literally walk at least mobile thing and press 123

[stone breach]

as rdruid, I feel like I was executing people a fair bit at lower mmr

that starsurge -> full stack potp moonfire landing at the same time 80k 1shot combo

[fair mirage]

sometimes it's all u need to secure kill ya

[edgy shale]

po0top doesn't do that much anymore

[grand mesa]

Gharnef I can do over 250k as disc if it lines up right in a penance and sw:d lol

[stone breach]

yeah, disc does more damage than some classes ik

[edgy shale]

wat is that hit expiation

[royal spindle]

"Healer sucks why isn't he healing" im running from a ret pal and an udk while you morons slam into a healer that is ccing you for 5 minutes straight

[stone breach]

one thing to keep in mind about uhdk+ret, if they both CDs in the opener, you can chuckle and tank them both with just a lifebloom for the next 1m30s or so

[edgy shale]

doesn't ret have a proc where tyheyt gets wings

but ye

[grand mesa]

If they all in their buttons first global it’s easy to live tbh

[stone breach]

sure, wings proc can be danger

[royal spindle]

The wings proc was the danger. And I had no help running away from them 🙂 got up to 60% damp and died

[grand mesa]

Honestly this sounds troll but

[royal spindle]

Healer sucks but you guys couldn't 2v1 a resto sham

[grand mesa]

Uhdk

And if it’s always coming down to these weird healer races

Try malorne’s swiftness lol

And just travel form around 🤣

[royal spindle]

I'll get back there, I'm not too stressed

[grand mesa]

It’s true that like

[royal spindle]

Just tilted that I had complete mongos for 6 games in a row

[grand mesa]

Traj MMR

No one does damage

So it goes to damp

[royal spindle]

Yup

[fair mirage]

originally i wanted to learn healing in shuffle but it's just

too much of a headache

i play meathead dps and press 123

[grand mesa]

Yeah

[royal spindle]

I'm playing heals cause giga fast queues

[grand mesa]

I’m healer main in pvp and I don’t even heal anymore it’s so aggravating

[royal spindle]

4 games as resto in the time of 1 dps

[grand mesa]

Would rather sit in 25 min queues

[royal spindle]

I'm about to just say fuck it and do that

[grand mesa]

And just play dps

[edgy shale]

dps Qs are so RNG

sometimes its insta

sometimes its 30 min

wait

wat

did i just get a bug done to me

nbevermind lol

\

[fair mirage]

haven't seen that in a minute

[edgy shale]

i thought it was a bug but it actually just me not understanding what reay of hope does

[fair mirage]

ya u just wall or heal into it

[edgy shale]

fucking dumb though

[fair mirage]

thought they changed it because i stopped seeing it at one point

but wall or heal into the 50% amp and u gucci

[edgy shale]

i just wasn't paying attention

cuz i was trying to live vs. sin rogue arms war

[fair mirage]

ya

[edgy shale]

prob the hardest thing to live for me lol

on spriest

[fair mirage]

assa still horrifying

[edgy shale]

yeah

[grand mesa]

There was that weird thing they used to do in SL

With ray of hope

I forget what it exactly was tho

Sometbing with mind control

[grand mesa]

They made CD like 30s longer or something during the late SL nerfs to RMP

[fair mirage]

o ya it was like minute

10 minute rmp games then we oom and die

as like a cleave

[grand mesa]

Rotate Ray and GS

[edgy shale]

anyoner else hope i get a staff in my vault tomorrow?

[fair mirage]

ya

[edgy shale]

wait

u both play waRYOR RIGHT

u stack crit vers in pvper

right?

[fair mirage]

ya as arms its good rn

[edgy shale]

do u use slam?

[fair mirage]

not rly its low prio

[grand mesa]

I use the word “play” very charitably because I have no clue what I’m doing

[edgy shale]

oh ok

[grand mesa]

But I do have a warrior and I do queue arena with it

[fair mirage]

slam is kind of the "i can't execute, ms or overpower" button

[edgy shale]

my firend kept asking me if he should press slam

and im like bro..why daf u think i know

[fair mirage]

ya it feels awwkard to get in

cos it doesn't rly do anything

[grand mesa]

Would u rend or IP before slam

[fair mirage]

yes

[edgy shale]

wats i[p

[fair mirage]

5k hps

for the whole game

[edgy shale]

impending penis?

[fair mirage]

[edgy shale]

oh

ignore pain

[fair mirage]

i sometimes take the 1 slam talent right next to rend

but not the 2 points in the class tree

[grand mesa]

Oh sick

[fair mirage]

cos rend without bleed talents feels booty

[grand mesa]

Duck

When do u TR

[edgy shale]

WTF IS THAT

[grand mesa]

I’ve been charge -> stormbolt if I’m stunning target. Warbreaker. Avatar (which triggers bladestorm) than roar out

But idk if that’s fried

[fair mirage]

when i dont think i get spear value

[grand mesa]

I almost want to cancelaura blade storm for roar. It’s so clunky

[fair mirage]

aka warlocks and dks

as for actual order idk ideally on warbreaker targets

can often hit 3 people with it in shoofle

[grand mesa]

It’s dynamic right

As in if I roar first then avatar

[fair mirage]

ya it updates

[edgy shale]

ye

its dynamic

[fair mirage]

just use during modifiers

[edgy shale]

no spec in the game has snapshotting except feral and sin rog

[fair mirage]

spear is bis imo BUT lot of matchups frick u for playing it

and bleeds are just big dam all game

no brain

also nobody scripts cds into roar

[grand mesa]

^

[fair mirage]

at least not like spear

[grand mesa]

That’s why I play it

[fair mirage]

spear is cuckcity

zzz gate zzz bopped

[edgy shale]

are there times u literally donr run spear?

[grand mesa]

Everyone’s been playing against spear for years at the is point

[fair mirage]

ya not into dks or warlocks in general

although bad locks dont soulburn their gate

[edgy shale]

wait

[grand mesa]

I mean u saw whaaz trigger the suck then step to his healer to get out of it

[edgy shale]

thunderous roar is a choice node with spear?

[grand mesa]

It’s like riding a bike for him

[fair mirage]

u can take both

[edgy shale]

[fair mirage]

u just want ava and reck/storm proc

so its usually a choice

as they dont rly synergize

wonder if i mmr terrorist it up in shuffle on alt warr and play shockwave

[grand mesa]

Prot??

[stray sigil]

i didnt even flame todya

[grand mesa]

U also saw that tweet

He swears that guy is legit and just grinding for glad

[fair mirage]

lol which one is that

[grand mesa]

But that win rate is kinda insane no?

How is that not a boost

Booster

[fair mirage]

thats booster winrate

[grand mesa]

Yeah

[fair mirage]

low rating high winrate is booster usually

or helping friends in short game amount but he has 6k games played

[stray sigil]

who boosts in 3s anymore

[fair mirage]

i remember some guy was trying to explain how he got glad with his "friend" he "met in lfg" who was a 2k achi point 16k games played spriest with a barcode name

[grand mesa]

https://twitter.com/im_disparage/status/1625269923940380675?s=46&t=-xUGbdLab7mkTHhOjlSLDw

Loser (@Im_Disparage)

Saw someone with this in Elwynn, honestly they're putting in that work, hope this person gets Glad/R1 in the near future especially if they're putting in this many games. The Grind never ends wish I had the mentality to Q this much.

Twitter · Feb 13, 2023, 11:05 PM

That’s the tweet

[fair mirage]

like 40% of my queues have been into boosts lmaooo

[fair mirage]

oh is that schizo feral

[stray sigil]

arent u kinda much higher than 1800 though

wdym he just rly improved

from sl to shuffle

[grand mesa]

He was the convoke feral right

iPods final form

[fair mirage]

ya

played 10 minute 2s versus him

[stray sigil]

he wasnt even playing convoke half the time

[fair mirage]

opened stream and watched him look at my checkpvp

[stray sigil]

he just likes to say he was

[fair mirage]

"what is this creature"

[grand mesa]

LOL

[sour sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-idea-how-little-that-narrows-it-down-that-narrows-it-down-clear-now-its-clear-now-i-understand-now-gif-21256627

[fair mirage]

lmao

[stray sigil]

only times i qd into him in 2s

he was always necro

[fair mirage]

convoke 2s all day with like a mw who didn't oom

so cringe

[stray sigil]

oh ye didnt he q

with meep

or w.e

[fair mirage]

literally just didn't do anything outside vokes just ran nonstop aaaaa fight me

[edgy shale]

wtf lol

MDing paly bubble is so funny

these Mfs think they slick

naw

[stray sigil]

carry me poddy

[edgy shale]

in wat

[stray sigil]

everywhere

[edgy shale]

ur 2 fat for carr

[grand mesa]

Feral spriest is historically a very good 2s comp

[stray sigil]

oh hes dps

cba

[edgy shale]

then get on ur feral and lets Q

[stray sigil]

id rather cut my own nut sack

than play double dps 2s

[edgy shale]

i wasn't talking to u

i was talking to puzzle

he's better than u at feral

[stray sigil]

true

[fair mirage]

ya queue up to donate some points to a poor assa/disc that doesn't have hands

FOR FREE

[grand mesa]

Do I even have an agi weapon

[edgy shale]

u do

cuz of guardian

tru ort ru

[stray sigil]

[edgy shale]

[grand mesa]

Yes dude

[fair mirage]

ya been playing that its pchill

spam dam

[edgy shale]

even against a sad sack like spriest or something?

who literally can't get out

[grand mesa]

Fuck spear

[edgy shale]

only eat shit

[grand mesa]

And idc what people say

[fair mirage]

i play spear for turby unless dk/warlock kill target

[grand mesa]

Landing spear sometimes is HARDER THAN IT LOOKS

dude

Having dbl time +

Stormbolt

• impeding

Feels like a dream

[fair mirage]

🥰

[grand mesa]

U have that entire talent row from SL at once

[fair mirage]

frost mage feels the same

u have splitting ice lances, instant blizzards

instant flurry

[edgy shale]

i thought u were literally just supposed to thrown down spear on sum1 after stunning them

so u can't miss

[grand mesa]

Could u imagine if u could get blink stun + shimmer

[fair mirage]

ya

[edgy shale]

i think next

i make a mage

[fair mirage]

thing is stuff is scripted into spear rly hard

and into a lot of stuff it's not great

or outright bad

roar always good value

[grand mesa]

That and 1000 WA alarms don’t go off

When roar happens

[fair mirage]

yep

[edgy shale]

they should

its literally sdtronger than all feral bleeds combined

[grand mesa]

Idk how folks are getting 30k ricks

[fair mirage]

honks go off in rspons eto

[grand mesa]

Ticks

[fair mirage]

warbreaker and ava

[grand mesa]

I’m not doing something right

[edgy shale]

30?

[fair mirage]

not roar

[edgy shale]

i've sen 40k+ ticks

or even 50k

[grand mesa]

Are u playing insignia

Or badge

[fair mirage]

i just been signia

[edgy shale]

badge is prob the play right? cuz it gives crit?

and lines up with warrior burst?

idk guess not

[fair mirage]

they both fine

[grand mesa]

I’d rather have insignia

[fair mirage]

depends on pref matchup and win condition etc

insignia just easy brain off but ig u could track proc for minmax

[grand mesa]

My win condition is live long enough for fuji to kill them

[fair mirage]

lining up dmg with badge also good tho

[grand mesa]

I keep forgetting about dark iron racial in offensive sense

[fair mirage]

rip full line of bleeds off while on stun dr and no disarm

and u will fk somebody up

hard

[grand mesa]

Yeah I’m enjoying it a lot

[edgy shale]

oh maybe wat i saw is the initial hit then

but i thought i saw the bleed doung more

40k ticks

[fair mirage]

ya

u have to like

banner the go

[grand mesa]

Long 1.5min to try again

[fair mirage]

or space carefully

[grand mesa]

G can u send me ur build

Just curious

[fair mirage]

like u bolt move out then warbreaker max range into ranged spear then storm in

[edgy shale]

i want waryor get merfed

[grand mesa]

I need to properly read these talents

[fair mirage]

yo yo fuck warlocks i love wrecking throw yep

[edgy shale]

i think the execute mark is a srupid as fuck talent

[grand mesa]

I just imported a high end pvp build that had spear. One that was big MS. And another that was big bleeds

[edgy shale]

wats waxking thrwow

[grand mesa]

Shield breaker

Deletes dark pact

[edgy shale]

wat

i thoight that was called shattering thtow

[fair mirage]

uh u know how shatter throw did 500% dmg to shields

its that but instant

u just hit absorbs for like 130k

[grand mesa]

That’s bubbles

[edgy shale]

[fair mirage]

shatter is troll cos it has cast time

and every team stops it

ye

rip safeguard

missin her

[edgy shale]

u will all be stopeped

wgen war nerfd

[fair mirage]

little 20% wall 😢

i need to find more places to play duel

[grand mesa]

Duel is so good but it’s also like

4th

At best lol

The other stuff so good

[lyric grove]

How's nourish for SS?

[grand mesa]

Nourish is good

[edgy shale]

good

[grand mesa]

I think people too schizo to get good verdancy value

[edgy shale]

i like nournish

[grand mesa]

But if u hypothetically could get a good verdancy lobby and people played on your shroom it’s better

[edgy shale]

nournish seems much better suited for shuff than berdanny

imo

wat biilt did flop run terday?

,pron b bournish

[grand mesa]

Like myway ran verdancy against Brew

And it worked very well

[edgy shale]

[fair mirage]

is it just me or are feral players a bit off

[grand mesa]

All of them

[fair mirage]

just broadly speaking

[grand mesa]

Look at pod and fuji

Our resident ferals here

[edgy shale]

@stray sigil tru or tru

ima spriest now

[grand mesa]

Different types of off but they ain’t right

[safe heart]

Cringe feral players
Based diablo 2 players

[edgy shale]

remember spriest?

in ahuff

is it bad to just diaperse their firT go

so u have it for next?

or do u hold at all costs

[safe heart]

I hold it as much as possible unless there's like a clear 2m go class

Like I just trade dk

But otherwise I try to pre flash heal fade

[edgy shale]

FADE DOES NOTHING

[safe heart]

Shield flash heal fade is Decent at mitigating if your healer will heal you

Fade is 10% dr

[edgy shale]

ye

its so little

[safe heart]

Flash heal + fade is 20%

[edgy shale]

[safe heart]

Throw a shield up

I mean it's not nothing
But the second you disperse, you're gunna die

[edgy shale]

qould u rsther have passive shield pproc or the better deapreate prayer

[safe heart]

Probably better dp

[edgy shale]

[safe heart]

Big dp is like baby ns

[edgy shale]

yra

ts big dam

[grand mesa]

I feel like spriest has comfy CDs

Disperse swap disperse. And BM DP fade inbetween for randomly getting low

Compare that to healing an ele who astral shifted air

[edgy shale]

swapping is so terridyuig

ppl kust get swapped ankd. die

[safe heart]

Yeah I mean my dmg will suffer so bad but I'm comfy getting trained

[edgy shale]

the thig that feeks too shioat set traiined ioe warr

[fair mirage]

ya concern is them swapping

but if they committed htey sometimes can't

or u duel then parry

and can preserve team cds

[grand mesa]

What do u guys think about queue windows

[fair mirage]

lot of teams been going healer or playing some 1 bang cheese

[fair mirage]

what like spell queuing

[lyric grove]

christ I am getting tired of evokers dreamwalk

[grand mesa]

Queues for 3s are open from 6pm - 4am est

Or something like that

[fair mirage]

oh earlier in day feels good i think

[grand mesa]

Other games do that

To funnel activity

[fair mirage]

degen hours are like china and boosts

[fair mirage]

oh

hm

[grand mesa]

Also would combat

[edgy shale]

what

[grand mesa]

Degen boosting

[edgy shale]

im so lost by wat ur sying that would be insanity

cuz like

Ocean and US are on same servers

but operate on entirely diff times

[grand mesa]

It’s not uncommon in other matchmaking games struggling with activity to do shit like that

Yeah true about oce

[edgy shale]

maybe instead of only certain times u can Q, there's some other incentive during x time that makes people want to Q

without disallowing other sfrom Qing when they want

but idk what they could do

idk, did u see what puzzle and ME and gharnerf posted?

there's like NOBODY playing

[grand mesa]

Tbh tho

I don’t feel the lack of activity

From a queue time perspective

I just feel the deflation

[edgy shale]

https://twitter.com/leekatv/status/1625200936925949953

Chris (@leekatv)

Approx players over 2400 in 3v3 2 months into the season.

             NA | EU

BFA S4: 124 | 180

SL S1: 2823 | 3560
SL S2: 1339 | 1682
SL S3: 1001 | 520
SL S4: 653 | 436

DF S1: 349 | 323

Likes

133

Twitter · Feb 13, 2023, 6:31 PM

[grand mesa]

Well

[edgy shale]

the saddest part is that they're trying to fix it and it prob made shuff worse

[grand mesa]

They designed for healers to lose within 3 minutes if they play well. And if you don’t you lose much sooner than that

That backfired tbh

[fair mirage]

healing is awful

[grand mesa]

It made healing worse

[fair mirage]

i tried and it's actually awful

nerf dmg so i can play pls

[grand mesa]

Now I’m either gettting dps partners for bots at like 2.2-2.3

[edgy shale]

[fair mirage]

ya idc lemme actually play

matches end so violently

[grand mesa]

Or I’m getting absolutely styled by 2700 dps

[fair mirage]

they made damp too intense in prepatch imo

dial damp back a bit

at least

too aggro and dmg too high

ya gimme 2-3 min games

it also buffs specs/builds that don't 1-bang people

rly cringe when every game is over by second dr

[grand mesa]

2-3 minutes should be the average game

Maybe 3

[edgy shale]

i dont thinkt hey would like absterge was saying on stream yesterday he thinks this is the best the meta has been in years

[grand mesa]

Or alittle after 3

[fair mirage]

bro opening up awc and seeing 40 second matches

[edgy shale]

like i don't even rlly agree with that, but i think its like insanely split what people like

[fair mirage]

ya

[stray sigil]

4mins is too long

[grand mesa]

Sterge and GG are contenders for the first time in 5 years ofc he likes this meta

[fair mirage]

misuse of cds/cc still punshing but not game ending insta

too breakneck

too brutal

[edgy shale]

yes, thats my entire point. diff people like diff metas. im sure there's lots of people who are loving this

like u think the waryors don't like 1 shitting ppleoples?

i think its the haelers who suffer a lot

[fair mirage]

i dislike how fast it is

[edgy shale]

yeah, but u also like 1 shitting ppl

[grand mesa]

Warriors will talk about how they enjoy killing people in spear with a giga juicdd MS crit. Then complain about a gspike hitting for 200k

Even tho it’s the same

U can’t trust players

[fair mirage]

i think its bad for most people in all forms of pvp rn

it nukes pariticpation to have it be breakneck

slow it down a

wee bit

i think unreactable dmg being the standard is just kind of ehh

like ofc 5 globalas setup should sting but like

ret for instance walking up and 2-tapping 5 people

[edgy shale]

i mean i agree with u guys, i think its too fast. but im just saying i know there's a lot of ppl who disagree for 1 reason or another

[stray sigil]

buffing healing wont fix anything

[fair mirage]

with aoe dmgur was

[stray sigil]

u died in like0.5 buffing healing doesnt do anythkng

just need to nerf dmg

[grand mesa]

The damage has to go down

And tbh I don’t know why they’re so scared to

They already changed damp to be aggressive

So healers lose sooner

But damage is so high you don’t even get to that loss condition

🤣🤣🤣

[fair mirage]

but if they slow it down then every game frost/warlock

[grand mesa]

Look at awc

[fair mirage]

aaaaaa

[grand mesa]

How many games got to more than 10% damp ie lasted longer than 3m

[fair mirage]

ya overlap is death

actually tho unless team counterhtrows

ya nobody sees and they all press

then die after

[edgy shale]

ddont worry guys. u will get the damp u want when brew meta is here in full effect

[fair mirage]

hard to eyeball damagur too

like ok i wall at 100% here

jk trinket cos still dead

[edgy shale]

a lot of gamagur is just crit / RNG / proc based, which is def dumb and a problem

like if the waryor execute crist and procs the death mark

u die

if it doesn't

u live

[fair mirage]

ele is a tumor upon the ladder along with assa

[edgy shale]

like...ok

[fair mirage]

i am unbiased warrior meathead

[grand mesa]

I was watching someone stream. And a guy popped wall at like close to 100%. The disc priest void swapped when his buddy was 5-10%. And the enemy didn’t give a shit and just killed thru a second full health bar

[edgy shale]

ye ele too

sometimes u just die

[grand mesa]

I fundamentally believe that shouldn’t be a thing

[fair mirage]

"galaxy dam here"

"kill thru"

[edgy shale]

LOWER HEALER DAM

that would help

[grand mesa]

Like call me healer main bias

But I think

If I commit a swap

Go should be over

Or close

[edgy shale]

why can disc priests do 100k SW:D and resto can do 100k lightyning bolts

i acutally don't understand

i think rdru does fair dam

[fair mirage]

big dam 🪓 people gotta die

[stray sigil]

rsham doesnt do dmg with bolt anymore

[faint marsh]

does pvp gear scale up on target dummies

[grand mesa]

Because they can’t heal like rdru

[stray sigil]

u can get 70k lb if ur lucky on rng

[edgy shale]

wdym

[grand mesa]

They have to be offensive or be aggro

[fair mirage]

on pvp dummer yaaa

[edgy shale]

they get stormbringer

[grand mesa]

That’s their win condition

[fair mirage]

it should activate the 424 ilev etc

[faint marsh]

damn my dps is dogshit on balance

[grand mesa]

LB got heavily nerfed in pvp

[stray sigil]

stormkeeper is giga nerfd in pvp for rsham pod

[edgy shale]

u mean for disc right? but like ook i think thats toxic as fuck design

[grand mesa]

A lot of the damage is lava burst

[edgy shale]

BRO IVE GOTTEN HIT BY 100k LBs

[fair mirage]

ya most specs decent or good

[grand mesa]

Now

“Sauce”. “Meatball”

[edgy shale]

i know its about the LB

[fair mirage]

just wish i were good enough to enjoy healing shoofle

[edgy shale]

but im telling u

i been hit by

massive lightning bolts

even lately

[fair mirage]

barbed shot doing infinite damagur feels weird

no time to press cobra

[grand mesa]

I enjoy it as disc duck

And probably enjoy FW

but I think that’s because there’s big damage component

[fair mirage]

im dumb n bad at disc haven't played it since

lemme think

um throne of thunder

[grand mesa]

Like I think pure passive afk heals is miserable in shuffle

Too little agency

Ur at mercy of teammates

[fair mirage]

priest just never appealed to me aside from shadur

it was fun in cms and i was gonna play in keys but disc/holy in pvp ehhh

[grand mesa]

It’s such a tightrope balance

Cause their healing kinda dog

So if they don’t do enough damage to pressure

[fair mirage]

fully juiced benance is like

[grand mesa]

It’s just a Shit spec again

[fair mirage]

so much dmg

[grand mesa]

Bro it’s like 7*20

And then a fatty sw:d

for 100k

[fair mirage]

actually just solo somebody from 220k

die piglet

[grand mesa]

Yeah

What I learned as disc in my little journey so far is really just say fuck healing this guy I can’t top him I’ll just kill someone’s myself

[fair mirage]

schizm mind blast penane death u just killed somebody

from like full health

heck

[edgy shale]

SOMEONE EXPLAIN EXPIATION TO ME PLEASE

[grand mesa]

Like in 2s fuji was 10% health in bear and sharpened and running

I said fuck it

And killed warrior myself

Lmao

[fair mirage]

ya doing hpriest turb in sl and my priest just kills this hunter from like 35% hp

games death just executes him

[grand mesa]

When u mind blast and sw:d it consumes some of the sw:p damage as instant damage

So it’s super important to have purge the wicked on someone before u dam

[safe heart]

Disc priest just has painbreaker?

[grand mesa]

Cause expiation just adds so much extra dam

[fair mirage]

ya

dark cov also buffs dmg, then the honor talent another 10

[tepid spoke]

DID RIHANNA WIN

[fair mirage]

lot of globals but

[tepid spoke]

?

[grand mesa]

Scov is so nice

[stray sigil]

[tepid spoke]

@edgy shale

[grand mesa]

When it accidentally lines up

[tepid spoke]

Did rihanna win the superbowl

[stray sigil]

yes she won matt\

[tepid spoke]

I knew she was gonna win

[grand mesa]

Scov Schism the shotgun penance as shadow into sw/:d

[stray sigil]

she was preggo too

i wonder wfrom who

[tepid spoke]

Maybe from me

[stray sigil]

but

u are gei

[tepid spoke]

My seed is spread across the world

[edgy shale]

rihanna got phucked

[grand mesa]

Oh was that the lego u were always talking about?

[safe heart]

Yeah

[tepid spoke]

Man if i take a picture

Of some dude at the gym

That i find hot as fuck

[safe heart]

Pain breaker consumes some dot dmg into your swd

[tepid spoke]

Is that a crime

[safe heart]

That's why swd build was insane

Yeah that's basically painbreaker

[grand mesa]

The problem with expiation is it’s bugged rn or was bugged

[tepid spoke]

Hahahha

[grand mesa]

So it’s bypassing damage reduction and doing unintended extra damage

[tepid spoke]

Hes so hot

[stray sigil]

go ask him

[grand mesa]

I think it’s a 10.0.7 fix

[stray sigil]

if u can have a piece of his koka

matt

[grand mesa]

I don’t think it’s just physical

[tepid spoke]

I kinda want to

[grand mesa]

I think it’s all DR

[tepid spoke]

I fucked a dude yesterday

[edgy shale]

expiation is extremdly op

[tepid spoke]

He has sent me like 100 messages today

Over insta

@edgy shale

[edgy shale]

why

[tepid spoke]

I am too classy for this world

Forever im that girl

Feed u diamonds and pearls

Oooh baby i

[stray sigil]

[tepid spoke]

Pod doesnt know it

Its over

He knows all the gei songs

Not this one

Its over

Its over for me

@edgy shale

Its over

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

What do I do tonight gaming

[edgy shale]

i dont know new beyonce songs

[tepid spoke]

False gei

Its over for me

@stray sigil root him

[grand mesa]

Harry Potter or arms shuffle

[tepid spoke]

Now

[tepid spoke]

Listen to it

Idiom

Its good

[stray sigil]

wait

[tepid spoke]

And its very gei

[fair mirage]

thought it was everything just ojly melee procced

so u never wanted felpup hitting disco

[stray sigil]

poddy is fake gei homophobe racist mysoginist?

[tepid spoke]

Root him

Its over

[stray sigil]

fuk pod

tiny koka mfer

midget ass bich

[tepid spoke]

He doesnt have gei protection

Cuz hes fake hgei

[stray sigil]

and on top of all that

he sux at world of warcraft

goddamnit poddy

[tepid spoke]

Couldnt be me

[edgy shale]

no

i own

on durna prog

im #1 dps

[tepid spoke]

Pod

Listen to it

[stray sigil]

u own the 1400 bracket

[tepid spoke]

Now

[stray sigil]

noob

[tepid spoke]

Before u turn hetero

[edgy shale]

no

[tepid spoke]

Now

[edgy shale]

im 1327 on spriest

[tepid spoke]

Fast

[edgy shale]

leg

[tepid spoke]

U arw turning hetwro

Rigut now

If u dont listen to it

Go

U dont wanna be hetero

[edgy shale]

shut up

[tepid spoke]

U wanna have 3 kids and a gut at ur 31?

[edgy shale]

u don't even know lemonade

the only wayt i could 3 kids by 31

is by pulling a nick cannon

[stray sigil]

ye poddy is 39 @tepid spoke

[tepid spoke]

And of top of that

BE BOLD

[stray sigil]

impossible

[tepid spoke]

????

[edgy shale]

u dont even know

[tepid spoke]

U cant turn hetero

[edgy shale]

lemonade album

[tepid spoke]

Quick

https://open.spotify.com/track/1Hohk6AufHZOrrhMXZppax?si=po7Fx-QnQJCVxHaf7y537A

Here

Quick

Listen

Now

Before irs too late

[edgy shale]

im already lsitening to it u idiom

stop makineg me angery

[tepid spoke]

Good

[edgy shale]

U DONT EVNE KNOW LEMONADE

WHICH MAKE ME ANGERY

[ember dock]

what does cyclo do with incarn

why does it glow

[stray sigil]

oh my god thats such a dogshit song

i cant

[tepid spoke]

Wtf its gei icon

No wonder u are not gei

Gg

[stray sigil]

gg

confrimed not gei

[edgy shale]

fguji

gei dudes gets more puzzy than u

[tepid spoke]

Gg

Rooted

Thanks pod

[edgy shale]

np

[tepid spoke]

Yes cuz we do skincare

[stray sigil]

how does that work poddy

[edgy shale]

well

[tepid spoke]

And arent bald at our 31s

[edgy shale]

i've had gay friends who just phuck their friends who are girls cuz idk

sex feelk good

but

u never do that fuji

cuz u dont have sex with girl

[stray sigil]

are u sure they are gei

[edgy shale]

yeah

[grand mesa]

I’m pretty sure pod’s hair is not long for this world

Tbf

[stray sigil]

sounds like they just faked it to "fuck" their girl friends

[edgy shale]

puzzle don't throw stones in glass houses

[stray sigil]

thats true

hes balding

[edgy shale]

[grand mesa]

That’s why I speak with authority

I’ve already traveled this road

🤣

[edgy shale]

ITS MY RIGHT TO BE HELLISH I STILL GET JEALOUS

[tepid spoke]

Pod is bald?

Its over

[edgy shale]

legendary nick jonas song

no

[tepid spoke]

Bald gei?

Its over for u

Quick

[grand mesa]

Let me look at his pic again sec

[tepid spoke]

Listen to more selena gomez

[edgy shale]

no

she sucks

[tepid spoke]

Get the geiness inside u

[edgy shale]

she can't sing

[tepid spoke]

Thats the only way to stop the baldness

[grand mesa]

Yeah I just looked again

He’s donezo

I give it 5 years

[tepid spoke]

Its over

[edgy shale]

my hair has looked like that for like 7 years

[tepid spoke]

https://open.spotify.com/track/0WtM2NBVQNNJLh6scP13H8?si=Krzf2BdsS3yVVfQg0MQIEA

Quick

Tune it

Now

Before its too late

[grand mesa]

Yeah the top of my head was kinda thinning and my Asian spiked head required a lot of wax from 25 and stayed that way for 10 years

When it goes it goes

🤣

[edgy shale]

it could be

tomorrow

or 20 years

baldness is usuallyt thru

well not usually

always thru ur mother's side genetically

and my grandfather on that side has good hair

so i think i hae a chance

[edgy shale]

remember lemonade?

[tepid spoke]

Ill never be bald

Hahah

[grand mesa]

I have no clue about my biological grandfather on moms side he killed himself when he was in his 30s

[edgy shale]

[fair mirage]

hm

[edgy shale]

its tru

maybe they're like

[fair mirage]

i think there is term for that

[edgy shale]

90-10

no

they were mostly gei

only bfs

[tepid spoke]

U are gei

[edgy shale]

they just likes phuck

[fair mirage]

do they say no hetero afterwards or wat

[edgy shale]

yeah

[tepid spoke]

I dont get puzzy but i get buzzy

[fair mirage]

sheesh

[edgy shale]

PRETTY HURTS PRETTY HURTS

[tepid spoke]

QUICK

LISTEN TO LADY GAGA

[edgy shale]

u can't fix what u can't seei ts the soul that needs the surgery

[tepid spoke]

POKER FACE

[edgy shale]

south beach, sugar free, vogue says: bigger is better. just another stage, pageant the pain away, this time im gonna take the crown without falling down down down

[tepid spoke]

Listen to rihanna

[edgy shale]

IM LISTENING TO BEYONCE

[tepid spoke]

Where have u been

[edgy shale]

P{RETTY HURTS

[tepid spoke]

Listen to halo

Now

Halo

[hollow condor]

@grand mesa I log soon

[edgy shale]

halo

[stray sigil]

beyonce = overrated

dont @ me

[edgy shale]

is 1 of my favorite songs

of all time

and there's a video on utube

of me singing it in my high school chem class in 10th grade

[hollow condor]

@stray sigil

[tepid spoke]

Show

Now

Or no bol

[edgy shale]

no bol

[tepid spoke]

@stray sigil

Make him sjow

[stray sigil]

he has no bol

he will never show

[ember dock]

Im so bad i do be getting 0 rating for 5-1

[edgy shale]

idk what makes u guys think

im even capable of inding it

[ember dock]

How do i get 1800 like this

[stray sigil]

u press on

thru the darkness

[tepid spoke]

Gg it opened up

Its over

Over

[fair mirage]

[hollow condor]

Do 5-1 like 3 times in a row

[hollow condor]

Eat it

[edgy shale]

i found it but im not posting it

i would omerga dox myself

[tepid spoke]

Podt it

Or no bol

Or dm it

[stray sigil]

no bol

[tepid spoke]

No bol

[edgy shale]

it has my full name and my high school

[stray sigil]

no bol

[edgy shale]

[stray sigil]

no booooooooooooooooooooooool

[tepid spoke]

No bol

[edgy shale]

im also incredibly out of tune

they didn't put up a fight they didn't even make a sound

[stray sigil]

small bol

microscopic bol

[edgy shale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FslqFizUG4

[grand mesa]

Bro

[edgy shale]

[grand mesa]

I can’t

[stray sigil]

what the fuck

did i just wathc

lmfao

[edgy shale]

legendary

[stray sigil]

fukin poddy

[edgy shale]

did u see how i put the girl in check bnehind me

i said

don't laugh

this is a performance

stay qwuiet

[stray sigil]

but everyones laughing

[edgy shale]

only

when i start doing the halo thing

cuz i was downright

hilarious bro

[stray sigil]

when was this

like 20 years ago

[edgy shale]

10th grade

[stray sigil]

im pretty close to accurate

gg

legendary

[grand mesa]

14-15 years ago

Wdym

[grand mesa]

I feel like they wait and see and then intervene the second half of the season or towards end

Like that tweet

[fair mirage]

granted we still have a few months but

[grand mesa]

SL s1 2 months in looked more inflated than s2

[fair mirage]

it'd be cool if rating were more consistent across seasons

[grand mesa]

So I’m assuming the giga unchained inflation happened later

[fair mirage]

people have hard time eyeballing how they're doing when they're randomly up 300-500 then back down

[grand mesa]

I think their balancing is shit

And I think it’s entirely pve fault

They keep introducing pve buffs to struggling classes that wreak havoc on pvp balance

Like only reason why early season spr was problematic cause they got like 3 blue posts of Pve buffs that applied to pvp

Yeah

So by the time they possible address BM hunter if they do cause their damage is high

New round of pve buffs will make something else dumb

That pvp will have to catch up on

[fair mirage]

at least tier was kind of tweaked even if they gained from buff

[grand mesa]

Then u got pvp rdruid catching strays paying sins for m+ and raid resto druid in addition to its own pvp nerfs 🤣

[fair mirage]

hard to tune across

keys raids and pvp

aside from tanks hmm

maybe like fury or enh ya