pvp

[tropic schooner]

and mostly played disc before cause fuck waiting 30 mins

[edgy shale]

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

Rizzardofoz

@hollow condor

[hollow condor]

Rizzardwizard

if i did that I would prolly go with Rizzlerofoz

[edgy shale]

I CANT EVEN FIND THE TALANT THAT DOES THAT TO VTR WTF

[tropic schooner]

should be

unfurling darkness

if old name is still true

[edgy shale]

oph nevermind its this

ig thats not much of a proc i had no idea what was causing it lol

spriest has so many wacky interactions between they abilities

[stray sigil]

[edgy shale]

its tru

[hollow condor]

so wacky and silly

[grand mesa]

Tbh disc is kinda the same

[stray sigil]

such a silly billy!

[grand mesa]

One ability buffs another one. That’s all over the place

[stray sigil]

ur so silly poddy!

[grand mesa]

Every tick of SW:P buffs you next flash heal. Penances buff your next PW: Solace. 4 casts of smite/MB shotguns your next penance. Penance buffs your next shield. Alternating light and shadow damage is damage buff. Mind blast consumes some of your pain damage at once. 🤣

[stray sigil]

ye ur not used to complexity in ur spec

rdru pig

[grand mesa]

okay buddy

Feral pig

[stray sigil]

hye my class used to be complex

[grand mesa]

PW spamming repod

[stray sigil]

can u say the same

[grand mesa]

I have to make insane calculations every time I rejuv wdym

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

But tbh I wonder if disc having more going on with it is why I enjoy it so much

It’s satisfying when it lines up

https://clips.twitch.tv/CorrectCourteousDeerBCWarrior-M0AXz3H_1YYgTH43

That felt good

[stray sigil]

big dam

[opal pumice]

[edgy shale]

idk why fuji is even crying

u can literally watch flop play for 2 seconds and u realize

rdru is way harder than hpal or disc in current meta

@grand mesa tru or tru

@stray sigil tru or tru

[grand mesa]

That’s an interesting discussion tbh

Rdru isn’t great rn with how everything is. So might be hard to win

But idk if it’s hard to play

If that makes any sense. It’s not super complex

[edgy shale]

how u heal is easy

as rdru

nut i think its still rlyl hard and xomplex cuz

even at the highest lev when they leave 45 yrd punished harder than any other hesler yet its an important psrt of their gameplay

idk mebbe im krekmed

@vestal citrus thoughts

[stray sigil]

i think by nature a class that has to do less is prob easier no ?

[edgy shale]

wat

they do have to do more

and they die easiee than any othee healee

[stray sigil]

do they

i think

[edgy shale]

idk maybe holy dies easier

[stray sigil]

ur confusing the fact that they dont have a clear answer to deathmark unlike some other healers

doesnt mean they die easier than other heals

[edgy shale]

disc and hpal and rsham

all do betteer surciving a kieney no?

not just dewag mark itss kidney rigt?

idk mebbe im erong

eatxhing awc made it look like flop was doung the nost

[stray sigil]

hpal/rsham def die a lot faster than a rdru no

[edgy shale]

hpal? wadf?

in a kidney? no way

[stray sigil]

but its like u would think of hpal has bubble or bop means they cant die

but like

[edgy shale]

cant shaman astral in kidney yoo

too

[stray sigil]

ye shaman dies to melee cleaves

but hpal also dies to ppl looking at it

if u dont have wings proc for when ppl run at you you kinda just die thru cds

[edgy shale]

idk it prob just looks diff at the highest lev

but it def didnt look like that was tru in awc

they like never killed vrain ever

[stray sigil]

the other day ppl played dh dk

and ran at hpals

they def do die very fast

they just have cds to go thru

like u get bub they are super dead

if anything rdru prob the tankiest of the healers

[edgy shale]

rdru geys syyunned eyhout trinket n u hust die

yhats so cap

@grand mesa wyy is he cappuhg

qll u do ue bark

and hope u had hots up

idk maybe rsru ferls less yenky cuz they literally need to eprint in and stun sometimes

[stray sigil]

ok so what does hal do in a kidney if on forb/no bop

what does sham do in kidney

[edgy shale]

i said cant they aatral?

but like shaman never has a reason to not be 40 yaeds too ezcept link rifht?

[stray sigil]

ye im saying ur argument is weird saying only have skin and have to have hots

[edgy shale]

idk

[stray sigil]

rsham def more playing in

than a rdru

u have to be in range

for ur totems

u cant just sit 45 yards

every other healer while getting trained its prob worse than rdru

cuz they have to cast

bar like hpal in wings

[edgy shale]

getting trained ye rdru def has tools

but like they are def super ez to swap to

thatd my pont

[stray sigil]

ye but so are the other healers

[edgy shale]

u just kidney with no trinket and they are instade

[stray sigil]

kidney shaman no trinket hes also dead

same for mw if not port

[edgy shale]

HE XAN ASTRAL

[stray sigil]

he needs to pre astral

u cant press in stun

lol

[edgy shale]

oh i literally aaked thatand u sais yes

idiom

[stray sigil]

so i thought u said they couldnt

[edgy shale]

who can wall in stun is that only lock and soriest?

mage

[stray sigil]

mage cant wall in stun they can invis wall out

dk can ibf

[edgy shale]

i mwan block

tru ibf

[stray sigil]

pala can use their shitty walls

if they spec it i suppose

[edgy shale]

if resto so easy hral me and texass @hollow condor

also

i figured out im even more podded than I thought humanly poss

i literally havce been sometimes running shuffs

without my offhand

so like 360 ilvl

just cuz it rando unequiops

and thats why im sitting ther being like....I CANT HEAL

[stray sigil]

[edgy shale]

yeah

likeo some matches

ill literally

SM+NS

and it heals like

100k

and im like

bro

WHAT TRHE FUCK

but its just cuz no offhand

[stray sigil]

idiom

[grand mesa]

I can handle getting trained as rdru

Way easier

Than rsham

That is very true

[edgy shale]

and ur definitely equally skilled at both so its a fair comparison

puzz do u run that talant that makes it so desperate prayer is lower CD when u get hit?

[stray sigil]

[edgy shale]

anyway i did admit fuji was right that i think rdru prob does do better at getting trained, but i think they get swapped too more easily

[grand mesa]

The thing with rsham is eventually you have to cast

[edgy shale]

just wtching flop itw as like

he makes 1 mistake

gg

brain makes 1 mistake

[grand mesa]

And when the swirling current change hits

[edgy shale]

he has multiple buttons to get out of the situation

but maybe its just this meta

[grand mesa]

They lose more out of riptide and surge

[stray sigil]

ur trying to compare classes with very different toolkit

[edgy shale]

cuz they're healers of course they will be compared like wdym

[stray sigil]

ya but rdru has like 20x the throughput of hpal

hpal has cds to counteract that

[edgy shale]

THATS SO FUCKING CAP

[stray sigil]

no ?

[edgy shale]

puzz

why is he lying

[grand mesa]

It’s true tho

[edgy shale]

20x?

thats cap

[stray sigil]

its obviously an hyperbole

dumbass

[grand mesa]

Well 20x is hyperboll

[edgy shale]

yeah but like

there's no way its even x2

after all the nerfs n shit

[stray sigil]

yes it is

[edgy shale]

BRO

[stray sigil]

hpals healing outside of wings

is completely dogshit

[grand mesa]

Rdru just shit out healing nonstop

[stray sigil]

thats why they have so many cds

[edgy shale]

are pallies not more preventative healers than like pure throughput

or something idk

[stray sigil]

no idea what you meant

[edgy shale]

wdym

[grand mesa]

The thing is like. With some healers. When you’re CC. Their HP goes down way faster than when ur on rdru

[edgy shale]

like rather than shiat out heals they bop u or devo

[grand mesa]

Cause they don’t have lifebloom and 5 hots

That’s why they have so many save buttons

[edgy shale]

ok but whos to say u have all those hots on u if u get rando swapped

[stray sigil]

yeah and hpals game cant last long cuz of that

ever notice

the most damp games ever

always rdrus ?

[edgy shale]

i mean with the brew it was damp

with the mage it was fast

[grand mesa]

It’s not rando swap tho is it

Trinket and tranq are down

Ur scared

[stray sigil]

it was fast cuz of the comp

nothing to do with rdru

[grand mesa]

Next kidney could be you at any time

And tbh

[stray sigil]

ofc a tank/bm monk gonna be damp by nature

[grand mesa]

I think ur conflating being weak to swaps with being weak to swapped by assa

Yes rdru is uniquely very shit against assa

[stray sigil]

what im trying to say is that rdru is one of the few healers that can go to that deep damp

[edgy shale]

this is my exact point that sometimes the correct play as rdru is to stun the nemy even in this situation for optimal play i think

[stray sigil]

in general

[edgy shale]

but its insanely punishing if u fuck up

which is where i think rdrus rlly high skill ceiling is

[stray sigil]

ok but ur taking that flop thing

flop just inted

[edgy shale]

bruh

[stray sigil]

thats it

[edgy shale]

it was insanely close to them winning the game

[stray sigil]

they had trinkets

and swap

[edgy shale]

it was a razor margin play

[stray sigil]

and he runs in with no trinket

he inted

[grand mesa]

When you start healing as disc. You’ll appreciate rdruid output more. Trust

[stray sigil]

i guarantee

you go ask flop about that

hell tell u

[edgy shale]

ok maybe that specific insmtance was an int, but im sure there's similar situations where its not an int

[stray sigil]

that he fucked up

[edgy shale]

and where the correct situation is to go stun

even with nothing up

cuz it can win u theg ame

and making that call

is rlly hard

[stray sigil]

it would have worked if they had no cds

but they did

[edgy shale]

ok thats the point

even the besty rdru in the world

can make that mistake

does that not speak to it being high skill cieling?

[stray sigil]

no

[edgy shale]

[stray sigil]

that speaks to him not looking at his omnibar/sarena

he saw the win and got horny

[edgy shale]

BRUH

[stray sigil]

?

[edgy shale]

HES THE BEST RDRU AND HE CAN MAKE THAT MIsTAKE

tHAT MEANS ALL RDRUS MAKE THAT MISTAKE

[stray sigil]

hes baiting me agane

[grand mesa]

When ur healing disc and your dumbass dps are splitting targets and you’re all slowly dying and the rdru is literally bored keeping his entire team 100% and never drops below 90% at any time. You start to see why some classes hate rdru. The throughput is really that good

[edgy shale]

i will never feel bad for disc

doing 100k dps in 1 second when a target is near death

well not 100k dps but 100k dam lol

ok i get wat ur saying tho

but i do wanna point out ur lit puzz cuz im arguing ur spec is hards and ur arging against me

[grand mesa]

It’s hard because the meta is kinda against it with assa

But I don’t think complexity wise it’s hard

Which was kinda the entire start of the debate

[edgy shale]

u rlly don't agree the relationship betyween playing aggro vs. defensive is compelx as rdru?

[stray sigil]

thats their for every healer pod

there

its not a rdru only thing

[edgy shale]

YES BUT FOR THE 100th TIEM I THINK ITS MORE PUNISHING FOR RDRU

[grand mesa]

It’s even worse for disc pod

[edgy shale]

why u can PS a stun n shit

[grand mesa]

Cause when u do damage as disc you’re accepting that you’re happy with your team being 65% and that’s safe enough but u need to do dam and do pressure or else you’ll just fall behind

[edgy shale]

and fear them off u

cant u be doing dam and healing at the same time

on disc

[stray sigil]

atonement healing is kinda piss

[grand mesa]

U won’t top bars with atonement like rdru

[stray sigil]

its there but like u wont top

maybe in schism window

ull do big heals with atonement

if they also let u free cast

[edgy shale]

ok but like mw, paly, disc, evoker, it feels like they have tools to get in witrhout being punished as hard

[grand mesa]

And worry about not getting locked on your shotgun penance

[edgy shale]

ig shaman doesn't

[grand mesa]

And not being able to heal at all

Lol

[edgy shale]

like im thinking of how cdew played evoker

he was literally always in melee

[stray sigil]

and he died 2/3 games

[edgy shale]

i didnt watch shitquid games today i only wached them yesterday

but evoker def has better tools

for being in melee

[stray sigil]

yesterday was uh

top 12

[edgy shale]

which ig is fair enuf since they have 25 range

[stray sigil]

so kinda shit teams

[edgy shale]

ok but he still played mad up

u have shroud tow ork with

[stray sigil]

ye u have to though

[edgy shale]

and communion? is that wats it called

i mean u can't play 45 yards but ive seen evokers hide behind pillars

[stray sigil]

after communion ur pretty vulnerable

[grand mesa]

Some classes can afford to be in it for sure

[stray sigil]

id say

jsut like hpal is vulnerable after bub

mw after cocoon or port

etc

[edgy shale]

CAN WE NOT JUST AGREE rdru has a rlly low skill floor, but a super high skill ceiling, which can prob be said of all healers, but it hink its particularly tru for rdru

theres also the fact

rdru has ONE spell school

for some reason

meanwhile all others have more

except hpal maybe?

[grand mesa]

Technically

We can swarm on lockout

🤣

[edgy shale]

legendary

[grand mesa]

Since it’s shadow

[edgy shale]

yeah i know

i do that lol

i also tree when lockd out sometimes

when i know im gonna get fucked

[stray sigil]

u have hots though pod

[grand mesa]

No I think rdruid is uniquely bad when they’re caught for sure

[stray sigil]

lockouts prob not as bad

[grand mesa]

But we have hots so we can afford to sit cc

[stray sigil]

can also just go bear and regen if u get kicekd

[grand mesa]

If we do it right

[edgy shale]

yes, but that goes bnack to playing aggro

u need to cast for clone

[grand mesa]

I don’t like the aggro vs. defensive argument for rdruid because I don’t think you play aggro often times

[stray sigil]

do u though

how many clones did flop cast today

[grand mesa]

U see flop sitting in stealth because he didn’t want to get kidneyed

[edgy shale]

JUST CUZ THIS META IS SO ASS FOR RDRU

[grand mesa]

All of his rake stuns were defensive meld stuns because they were gonna CC him first

[edgy shale]

he can't even play the game

cuz its so punishing

on his stream

he's always spamming clones

[grand mesa]

But we have the luxury of rolling hots and sitting stealth too

🤣🤣🤣

[edgy shale]

ye

stealthr is prety op

for a healer

[grand mesa]

And having swiftmend NS out

So we can greed stealth or the drink longer than other healers would. Because they don’t have the insta top

Like rshams NS needs like 4-5 GCDs to setup the big ns we do

Lmao

Like flame shock first drop HST then other shit

Like I don’t disagree rdruid has it rough rn in assa meta. But we have a lot of strengths that you won’t see until you play against it as another healer lol

[stray sigil]

think every healer as it rough vs assa

[grand mesa]

Lockouts means I go bear and frenzy regen if they’re on me lulz

[stray sigil]

just not having dwarf as an option

is making it worse

we can pray

🙏

save m from elves blisssard

[edgy shale]

U CAN PLAY

zasndlari

troll

for regenartin

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

Fuji would u pick dwarf druid or gut assa on Tuesday if blizz asked u what to do

[hollow condor]

ok

how do i play destro

[stray sigil]

dwarf druid

lol

idgaf about pvp just give me dwarf druid

[stray sigil]

big dam

[grand mesa]

Idk when I see details I see everything but chaos bolt higher lmao

Whatever shadowburn is

Do that

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[edgy shale]

its just an instacast ability

[stray sigil]

very true poddy

[grand mesa]

I do need to finish capping out on my alt druid and uhhh maybe evoker if I care about evoker. So I’m down to heal whatever tomorrow

[edgy shale]

how daf u live this

as a healer

its so op wtf

[grand mesa]

That looks like

Healer was asleep and no one killed psyfiend

[edgy shale]

it was on the healer

[grand mesa]

Yeah

[edgy shale]

i silenced him before the screnshot

it was op

[grand mesa]

Idk that looks very survivable

[grand mesa]

When spriests we’re really good that mindgames did 200k 🤣

[edgy shale]

i was finishing my sdhuff

but ye that def wasn't like the most burst mankind has ever seen

but the point is

it feels insanely good

to dot sum1 up+mg+psyfiend

and watch them cry

so much boorst

[grand mesa]

Yeah it feels good

The psyfiend stun silence MG

I’m sure

When it all lines up

[edgy shale]

all ur shit comes up with DA every 1 min

its like rlly good shuff timing

well everything except PI obv

u get to damnation+mindbender+MG+psyfiend+DA and shadowcrash even

makes me thin kthe mG cdr is kinda shiat

@safe heart help me

[stray sigil]

wrong

[edgy shale]

wats wrong

[stray sigil]

ur face

[safe heart]

fill me in

im playing d2

[edgy shale]

how do i play spriest

i just made up everything i said

i have no idea wat im doing

[safe heart]

press damnation
vt something else

[edgy shale]

read wat i said

is it tru

[safe heart]

shadow crash dog pile

[edgy shale]

can i macro VE to something

i keep forgetting to pres it

[safe heart]

yeah this is like good 45s go

[edgy shale]

[safe heart]

macro it to DA i guess

[edgy shale]

[safe heart]

you only really get value when ur pumping

the healing isnt insane

but it kinda help keep you aggro

[edgy shale]

oh, i should just put it on damnation

hmm

DA doesn't require a target though lol thats the problem

[safe heart]

wait

you mean vamp embrace right

not void erupt

[edgy shale]

yeah

[safe heart]

yeah i mean

[edgy shale]

oh

waiot

it acutally doesnt

WADF

i thought u cast it on someone

[safe heart]

no

[edgy shale]

ok im podded

nvm ty

[safe heart]

vamp embrace is justa buff

[edgy shale]

yeah

idfk why i thought u cast it on sum1

okg oated good

i made it

legendary

[crystal forge]

Ok I wanna hit 2.1 as feral

Is this doable

[safe heart]

in shuffle yeah

[crystal forge]

Like conquest uncaps on Tuesday

I’ll degen farm a whole pvp set

[grand mesa]

In shuffle very possible

[crystal forge]

I just want the title of duelist

But also elite is goated

[safe heart]

even i was able to get duelist in shuffle

and i am arguably the worst feral that ever existed in this life

[stray sigil]

wrong thats pod

[safe heart]

this is my check pvp page fuji

is literally does not get more sus thanthis

[crystal forge]

Challenger to glad is actually sick

[safe heart]

technically i was dueliest s1 but this is my new acc

[edgy shale]

i actually remember when enjo first came in this chammel

and he was like

guys i can't get past 1600

whats wrong

and iw as like

wow t his guy is extremely bad

then over literal years

he improved and got glad

and now he's better than me

[edgy shale]

[safe heart]

https://check-pvp.fr/us/Emerald Dream/Catiesh

this was my original feral before aucat

[edgy shale]

well not even now like a while ago

its just funny cuz u were so horrible at first

and asking questions like a dum dum

[safe heart]

pod it took me 2k games to get 1800 s1

[edgy shale]

[safe heart]

and i only really got it because syfox was doing viewer games

[edgy shale]

exactly

and then u got over that wal and became goated

[safe heart]

i had the highest of hopes

wanted glad so bad

and ive wanted it so badly ever since lol

i even said "this is great now ill probably get glad easily"

boy was i wrong

[edgy shale]

[safe heart]

well i deff am not convinced that im the first type of player

all jokes aside

i think im a good player

but idk

i feel like im not good enough to carry

so i need like similar xp teammates

[edgy shale]

@stray sigil come Q with ernji

[safe heart]

the longest stretch i ever had with 1 team was like 3 weeks

idk maybe someone needs to watch me queue with randoms and theyll notice im bad or something

i think defensively i dont play well on my feral

because im stressing about my team saying i do no dmg so i never wanna run even if it makes sense

cuz i dont want the flak

[edgy shale]

thats fujis fault

[safe heart]

well this is just a common thing i get from lfg

if i try to play defensive, and try to kite out go's , my dmg drops and then im like 4th on dmg by a decent amt and they pin our L on that

so i stay in and pad dmg but its like im eating infinite dmg

[grand mesa]

You’re kinda weird

Ngl

I don’t know how to explain it

[safe heart]

tru

[edgy shale]

what

PUZZLE STOP FLAMING PEOPLE TODAY

[grand mesa]

No like when u choose to go in and out

[edgy shale]

youve done enough

[grand mesa]

Is kinda different than what fuji does

But u get less out of it

But I don’t think you’re fundamentally doing anything wrong

[safe heart]

well fuji probably just has it more fine tuned than me

like i know what im trying to do, but the timing isnt perfect

so it becomes awkward

[grand mesa]

It’s like when fuji would normally stay in you’re behind a pillar and vice versa. But the decisions aren’t like obviously wrong because you’re bailing in when their CDs are popped

So i can’t quite figure out why it’s different

[safe heart]

you know what i personally think it

is

and im gunna say this in the most sus possible way

i think about u alot

like i think about my healer alot

[grand mesa]

Don’t

[edgy shale]

[grand mesa]

Fuji doesn’t give a shit if I’m inconvenienced

Like I do that to glaivid a lot

[safe heart]

thats probably the difference then

[grand mesa]

And that’s why it hits different when I watch cdew complain

Cause I’m the same way

Everuthing is centered around making my life easy

Which it shouldn’t be

[safe heart]

like im trying to heal myself to save you mana, and im trying not to waste regrowth procs and im trying to minimize my dmg taken

[grand mesa]

Like trill and everyone is so mindful about bailing out cdew

I tend to make glaivid do the same shit

Running away from a possible kill cause I need reverse

I don’t even say anything he’s just trained to play that way

[safe heart]

i mean shit, think about those games where rogue is beating on you behind a pillar and i run back to hit him

thats kinda what i mean

[grand mesa]

Well I personally think that’s the most useless thing ever tbh

Hitting the guy hitting me never does much imo

All it usually means is now both of us are getting cleaved and I have twice to heal

[safe heart]

so tahts a mistake i make

[edgy shale]

[grand mesa]

CC for me so I get room to cast

[stray sigil]

puzzle out there making it seem like im ooga booga

[grand mesa]

Don’t hit what’s hitting me IMO

[edgy shale]

u are fuji

ur branless player

[grand mesa]

Unless it’s a kill

It’s not brainless

But he’s def aggro and makes me accommodate him to kill shit

[edgy shale]

i didnt say that

io said branless

[grand mesa]

Whereas I tend to make it the other way around

[edgy shale]

https://tenor.com/view/can-we-please-get-the-gif-11948270

[safe heart]

the only time i try to let healers cater to me is during incarn

if incarn is up, ill tank some stuff so i can do dmg

which i think is fair

[grand mesa]

That’s 30s in a Very long game and then we’re just spinning the wheels doing nothing

All I’ll say enji

Is I have sus positioning by nature. I’m not the best at it. So if I’m comfy positioning all game

That means that ur probably not in a position to fucking do anything meaningful

Like I get caught out a lot when I play with fuji. And im sure some of it is because fuji is just aggro. But a lot of it is im just repod

Like hell frequently say like I need to go in you need to go in with me and take the next pillar. If you stay where you are I can’t do anything and we die

[safe heart]

i was doingthat some last night hah

[grand mesa]

Ya

[safe heart]

it becomes so much more apparent with a caster tho

i felt like i was on the shortest leash

[grand mesa]

So make me accommodate you. Don’t accommodate me

We ain’t killing shit that way

[vocal marten]

there a good gaurdian pvp build i can follow? i dont see one int he pins

[safe heart]

specifically to last night, i think if i literally just tell protease what to do, those games go better

make her play around me

[grand mesa]

No one here who posts regularly play bear

[safe heart]

she has a habit of doing nothing

[grand mesa]

But you can check murlok.io

And checkpvp

For top player builds

[vocal marten]

murk.io has the unupdated talents :(

[grand mesa]

Check out checkpvp

And drustvar

And xunamate

All of them have similar functions

Can just see which ones are updated

[grand mesa]

It’s negative dam always. That’s why disc felt good. I just kill shit myself

Druid I’m just doing 50k+ hps waiting for something to die

[safe heart]

if we play that comp again, im gunna just try it that way

[grand mesa]

Sure

I only played druid cause of vault

But I might just run a +2 for 3rd vault for socket

That comp I’m playing disc fuck y’all I’ll do it myself 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[safe heart]

i was actually having fun once we went affliction

[stray sigil]

aff fun

[grand mesa]

I don’t want to heal 6min games anywya

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

We kill or die within 3

hahahahaha

[safe heart]

we were playing aff / feral / puzzle

i think destro feral just doesnt work

[edgy shale]

WTF

[grand mesa]

It does

[edgy shale]

NO WAY

[safe heart]

or rather needs to be played better

[grand mesa]

When destro is cranking

[safe heart]

idk how to set up destro

[edgy shale]

i was 2 wins and it was round 5 and the healer left thats like 30 min wasted no conquest

[safe heart]

i feel like she cant crank cuz shes tunneled

[stray sigil]

get fucked

[edgy shale]

thats legit so annoying lol

[grand mesa]

She doesn’t really crank when she doesn’t get tunneled eithe r

[edgy shale]

why doesnt it give u conquest when that happens

[safe heart]

fair

[grand mesa]

But like u know what ur getting so I’m not complaining. Just enjoying chill 3s

[safe heart]

maybe its a fundamental problem rather than a comp thing

yeah

[edgy shale]

destro gets too much pump with instacast abilities

[safe heart]

i wanted vault on enjarr anyway

[grand mesa]

Like I keep saying

More damage solves most issues

If both dps doing 35-40k dps

Suddenly tiny positioning errors don’t matter cause they’re running for their fucking lives from chaos bolts and portals 🤣🤣

[safe heart]

yeah, if i understood how the dmg worked more maybe itd be easier

once i realized that circle was a proc

i realized i knew nothing about destro lol

[edgy shale]

wait wat

isn't there a pvp talent

thast u cast

or do u mean something else

[safe heart]

the havoc circle

apparently is a proc

[edgy shale]

oh

i thought u meant the casting circle where ui cant get kicked

[safe heart]

@stray sigil i got my stream working finally

so maybe you watch me sometime

and see if i am podded

[stray sigil]

whats ur twichr

[edgy shale]

fuji

[safe heart]

enji_1

[edgy shale]

do u agree

this is 1 of the least skillful times this game has ever seen

[safe heart]

im not playing rn

[edgy shale]

cuz its like 90% pve

[safe heart]

i just mean in general

[stray sigil]

ye

[edgy shale]

absterge is makking fun of ppl on stream who think like that

cuz he stays

shadowlands was super scripted which is even less skill

idk wat i agree with

[stray sigil]

not wrong i suppose but atleast u had to do proper setups

even if it was turbo scripted

[edgy shale]

but is that hard?

[safe heart]

it can be

[edgy shale]

im not capable of doing it, so for me, yes.

[safe heart]

if ppl know the script its easy to stop

[edgy shale]

[stray sigil]

sl rmp set up wasnt difficult no

[edgy shale]

fuji would hate fuck eiya something terrifying

[stray sigil]

was all 321 instant cc

with little to no counter

prob what hes talking about

[edgy shale]

yeah

[stray sigil]

nobody liked to lpay vs rmp in sl

[edgy shale]

but its not like juingle is that diff

u just trap healer maim kill target same shiat

[stray sigil]

ye but trap is delayed

[safe heart]

jungle set up is easier to counter than rmp

[stray sigil]

its not instat instant

like rmp was in sl

where u chastise dbd kidney

[grand mesa]

SL was like turbo scripted with no damage inbetween

[edgy shale]

so which 1 is harder

idk

[stray sigil]

what do u mean by harder

there is like no cc now and u die randomly so i suppose this is "harder"

than following a script

[edgy shale]

u know wat i means

[grand mesa]

fighting SL RMP is harder imo cause their script had infinite buttons and gos and instant CC

[stray sigil]

idk cuz u knew when it would happen

no surpise

u just had to trade

[stray sigil]

idk either way

[hollow condor]

hes ready for tomorrow

[stray sigil]

both are brainless

[grand mesa]

It was funny watching foxy

In his rank one push

[edgy shale]

fuji do u hate foxy now

[stray sigil]

wdym

im watching him rn

lol

[fair mirage]

She didn't even know that the shoulder parrot was from the shop.

[grand mesa]

He’d be like next go we have no buttons we have to outplay trinket CC pre everything

[edgy shale]

im just asking

[grand mesa]

Just lack of buttons to match all the gos much less the reso go

Idk I kinda like DF as fried as it is

I didn’t mind SL either

But I do enjoy the faster pace

[edgy shale]

@stray sigil is mind numbing poison good?

[stray sigil]

no its terrible for sure poddy

[grand mesa]

Mind numbing and curse of tongues can get the fuck out of here

[edgy shale]

gtfah?

so mind numbing is actually more op than the ms one?

i didnt know that

[grand mesa]

It put you to 0% haste if you had less than 36% haste

[stray sigil]

shoulder parrot ?

[fair mirage]

Neither did I until my healer gifted me one.

[stray sigil]

wtf is shoulder parrot

is it something on the shop rn ?

[edgy shale]

shut up fuji

he literally said it was

[fair mirage]

Yeah, it's just a pet you can tell to sit on your shoulder.

[edgy shale]

wtf

is absterge lit

he's saying right now is the best its been in rlly long

if not ever

[grand mesa]

I mean

From a systems standpoint

He’s not wrong

[edgy shale]

no not systems he means meta

[fair mirage]

The bones of DF are great. It's just like a tuning/philosophy thing in terms of like pacing and whatnot.

[grand mesa]

I just boosted a warrior dinged 70 and I’m in shuffle as 411 30 minutes later

[edgy shale]

like the pace of the game

is better than damp shit

[stray sigil]

im prob biasd cuz i dont like how my class is in this expac

[fair mirage]

I mean games at pro level ending in 40 seconds is a bit breakneck eh

[stray sigil]

prob makes me not like it

[grand mesa]

I mean he’s also probably alittle biased because this is the best GG has been in a while

So they’re clearly thriving in this meta

No surprised sterge likes it

[edgy shale]

ya

hes very obv biased

so is everyone inherently

they will prefer what they are better at as a player

or whatever else

this def isn't the most fun ive had in pvp, but i will say damp shit is the most exhausting and annoying bull shit in the universe

i hate it

and i think most ppl do as well

[livid wasp]

teach me how to have fun

[edgy shale]

[safe heart]

play d2 this friday

[edgy shale]

are we all playing d4 when it cums out

[livid wasp]

sounds meh

[viscid remnant]

Hallo

[edgy shale]

[grand mesa]

Good morning

[viscid remnant]

Zechey why are u up

[hollow condor]

for destro do you just run fel hunter or what

[edgy shale]

no way is this is davider's morning

[hollow condor]

i guess imp against hunters

[viscid remnant]

5am pod

[edgy shale]

succubus is good for sometimes too texass

[viscid remnant]

I just woke up

[edgy shale]

wellcum to day

[livid wasp]

im up cause im a doomer

[edgy shale]

if ur running felhunter

dont be like me and forget to use the purge

lock has so much bull shit

u ned to remember

[livid wasp]

I used to wake up at 6 to go to work

[viscid remnant]

5 am

NO PROBLEM

awake before

the sun is up

[livid wasp]

do you have a job now

[viscid remnant]

tomorrow

[livid wasp]

what job

[viscid remnant]

same1 as before

[grand mesa]

What a shitty end to the Super Bowl @vestal citrus

[viscid remnant]

who won asswc

[grand mesa]

GG

Errr

C9

[viscid remnant]

??

flop

[grand mesa]

Flop beat kawhi 3-2

[stray sigil]

they played

bm monk

and cheesed their won

to the top

[grand mesa]

They played BM monk 2 wins

[stray sigil]

@viscid remnant

[livid wasp]

super bowl and they arent even bowling

[edgy shale]

THATS LITERALLY not true

[livid wasp]

football and they dont even kick the ball with their feet

[edgy shale]

they won with mage

2 times

[grand mesa]

They’re about to kick the game winning field goal rn zechey

[livid wasp]

its not even a ball

foot egg

[edgy shale]

legendary comment zechey

https://www.wowhead.com/news/mining-seams-returning-with-dragonflight-patch-10-0-7-331420?webhook

ij ust cummed

ANOTHER w FOR FUCKING GATHERINERS

[stray sigil]

[edgy shale]

read the article

[livid wasp]

chinese gold farmers rejoice

[edgy shale]

no

i rejoice zechey cuz

dragonriding made it harder for gold farmers

they obv still exist but its not to the same extent

seams are goated

[fair mirage]

cool i love clicking ore/herbs while in q for stuff

tink tink

[edgy shale]

legendary

man of culture

[grand mesa]

Ngl

If I knew DF would have a dps shuffle arc for me with long queues

I’d have done gathering

[edgy shale]

trtied to tell

u

[fair mirage]

i usually go gather on alts at least early

cos herbs like 100g ea

for a few weeks

[grand mesa]

“Rhianna look out!!” @vestal citrus

🤣🤣🤣

[edgy shale]

ye early in xpac its always rlly good, but DF was def a new level of op gathering

[grand mesa]

David are u up and awake

[viscid remnant]

yes

[grand mesa]

Do we send 2s

[viscid remnant]

iam qign with mackavelli

[grand mesa]

[stray sigil]

dodged

[fair mirage]

also feels cooked not bein herb on druid idk

muh immersion

[clear pulsar]

Damn puzzle getting nothingd

[grand mesa]

Maybe I run a +2 on my pvp druid

[edgy shale]

puzzle got nothingd

[grand mesa]

I just want a third vault 🤣

[stray sigil]

@grand mesa u should q with poddy

[grand mesa]

And I cba dps shuffling

[edgy shale]

[stray sigil]

hes insane at wow

[grand mesa]

Absolutely not

[stray sigil]

@edgy shale get fuckd

[grand mesa]

I don’t want him to get locked and can’t disperse then say legendary

I need to win games to get third vault

Jk I’m kidding I just don’t like queueing caster healer

[edgy shale]

puzzle stop flamming me

im raiding

i cant Q

no ned flamme me

[grand mesa]

Caster healer 2s are kinda L

Unless demo

Ur raiding

During the Super Bowl ????

[viscid remnant]

i promised him sunday games

and we never played

yesterday

[grand mesa]

Hahah I’m just glad he’s playing again

I was talking to him yesterday he said he’s been busy

With work

[edgy shale]

yes raiding during superbowl

who daf is makavil;li

also i do think

if a caster works with healer in 2s spriest prob isn't bad

cuz u can do a lot of ur dam with no casting

@stray sigil tru or tru

[viscid remnant]

wrong

[grand mesa]

spriest works in dbl dps that's it rly

[clear pulsar]

Pls dont disrespect mackaveli with your podposting

He is very cute individual

[grand mesa]

we like mack

[edgy shale]

bruh

i just said i dont know lol

[edgy shale]

if tahts tru post pic

@tepid spoke we geis will decide

[clear pulsar]

I'm not puzzle I don't randomly save an archive of people in wow discords

[edgy shale]

[clear pulsar]

Also rly bad vibes to post people's pic without their permission when they arent public figures

[viscid remnant]

hope u got a good enough look pod

[edgy shale]

I did ty davider

[tepid spoke]

Fuck i didnt see

[edgy shale]

u would def want his koka

[clear pulsar]

Wait mack is ripped now?

He was def small soy twink when he streamed with cam on

Dyed hair and all

Or maybe these are just diff macks we're talking about

[viscid remnant]

probably different

hes been going to the gym for like 10years or someshit lol

[clear pulsar]

Maybe it was just the angle

Gotta be within 10yd

And nobody takes MD by default so it also costs a talent point

It could prob win one game

But if people knew it then it's just full wasted

[fair mirage]

dece for protecting teammate

like warr hitting a warlock

seems fringe tho

[clear pulsar]

Yeah so here's the thing who would hit warrior over a hunter as warlock

[edgy shale]

POD WOUOLOD

[fair mirage]

trying to actually stop a go with it

might cheese a few people tho

hunter can be a bit of a feelsbad like that

spear them, they turtle, turn and 2-hit their pet

[viscid remnant]

@grand mesa are u okay

[grand mesa]

whatsup

[viscid remnant]

go sleep

[edgy shale]

go to sleep

[broken junco]

I don't have time for anymore spells

[stray sigil]

harry podder in the house

[broken junco]

It's not a secret what's in this chamber

[viscid remnant]

garry

[broken junco]

GARRY I WAS WROBG I MESSED UP AND NOW YOURE GONE

[stray sigil]

true i typod its garry podder

[edgy shale]

WAT R U SAYING

WWWW

[viscid remnant]

@edgy shale

big boorst or no boorst

[edgy shale]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRST

[lunar void]

will moonkin/feral druid, spriest and resto druid work as a 3s comp?

[viscid remnant]

feral sp rdruid is good ye

moonkin sp less

[lunar void]

ight

[viscid remnant]

@stray sigil

@vestal citrus

insane gayming or what

[edgy shale]

is every game ass in 2s?

[viscid remnant]

basically

[viscid remnant]

how long are u staying up pod

nice emote idiom

[edgy shale]

idk

[viscid remnant]

im gonna go for a walk

and can q 2s if u want

[edgy shale]

i told my friend id do leeg with him

but i am spreist player now

is munk good with spriest?

wat would u play with spriest?

[viscid remnant]

healer sp is bad

[edgy shale]

WTF

[viscid remnant]

can try something

can try demo also

[edgy shale]

puzzle said that

[viscid remnant]

XD

most casters in 2s are shit

other than demo

but demo gets fiarmed too

[edgy shale]

why is spriest band tho like most of ur stuff is instant

[viscid remnant]

just dont have same pressure

[edgy shale]

[viscid remnant]

and no consistent mortal

like psyfiend is good

but most melees have 25% mortal up perma

[grand mesa]

There are pillars in arena lol

[edgy shale]

wadf

ur actually still up

[grand mesa]

I think the only historically meh caster in 2s that might just pump enough now to be ok is ele maybe

But ya u have very scripted 45s go’s. But like ur throwing out random instants inbetween getting ran down by whatever OP melee is fotm

[viscid remnant]

I thought u are going to sleep

Or what

[grand mesa]

I’m in bed

[viscid remnant]

Ogey

Did u see

We beat

[grand mesa]

Ya that’s massive

[viscid remnant]

2 r1s

Heroic gaming

I was shocked tbh

I guess they didnt expect fw

[fair mirage]

fistweaver is weird

it's like why is the monk feeding

wait why is he healing so much

then they sometimes randomly die

[maiden viper]

survival hunters look like fun, I'll level mine
oh right dps queues are atrocious nvm

[viscid remnant]

In soylo its hit or miss

[maiden viper]

rinse repeat for all dps specs/classes

[edgy shale]

i played against 1

and it was like unhealable ebola damagur

just like 3 dps hitting sum1

but ye like ducker said i think issue is u can jsut rando die

[viscid remnant]

Depends

[edgy shale]

idk

[maiden viper]

yeah playing against fistweaver if dps doesn't know what to do is complete cancer

[viscid remnant]

Like monk has a lot to live