this gun's for hire
#pvp
edgy shale
livid wasp
im sitting at 2.4k sniffing copium waiting for feral buffs
though I dont think theyll buff it since feral seems fine
edgy shale
hi
viscid remnant
any truers
tepid spoke
Not sure if
I should make of
Maybe ill get a lot of irl gold
And then i can afford roids
And be more hot
And then get more money
And start a vicious cycle
viscid remnant
hollow condor
edgy shale
IM ALLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE
IM ALIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVe
IM A LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVVVVVVVVVVVEYEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAyeEAAH
edgy shale
wdym
viscid remnant
The annoying robot from borderlands2
edgy shale
No truers?
hi
safe heart
Claptrap is legendary
clear pulsar
edgy shale
even worst enemies can help each other how nice
viscid remnant
Truue
rigid linden
Cumtastic.
edgy shale
@stray sigil
tepid spoke
Gogogogog
edgy shale
WHY U PHUCK IYA?
edgy shale
u hate phuck eiya
tepid spoke
Pod go jym
edgy shale
no
edgy shale
tepid spoke
Im wana hold you when im not supposed to when im lying close to someone else ur stuck in my head and i cant get u out of here
If i could do it all again i know ill go back to uuuu
edgy shale
wqat is that
edgy shale
and I don't wanna hold back baby u should know that
hollow condor
Is Davider resubed?
stray sigil
wats ur type
not that
edgy shale
wat is it then
grand mesa
check his twitter timeline
viscid remnant
I am not
grand mesa
holy fuck
my shard just fresh respawned all the disturbed dirt
50 farmed in 2 minutes
legendary
grand mesa
big tiddie asian girls
tribal saddle
does rdruid want Vers>Haste?
grand mesa
vers > mastery > haste
but we have alot of options for mastery now so u could definitely int your haste too much
so don't drop too low
tribal saddle
tyty
grand mesa
"too low" being very subjective
grand mesa
if u look at top guys they're anywhere from like 10-18% haste or whatever
hollow condor
Not possible
Why are you leveling?
viscid remnant
Impossible to lvl normal
viscid remnant
grand mesa
foxy was terrorized
stray sigil
like 2hours
viscid remnant
What crack did u smoke
To achieve that answer
Mf it took u 2 hrs
Cuz u boosted
Dumfuq
stray sigil
no
grand mesa
fuji doesn't know he doesn't have any alts and the ones he had he boosted
stray sigil
1-60 is super fast
stray sigil
trev def has some sort of adhd
grand mesa
yeah if a pve warlord like trevvy can't do it quick
stray sigil
i wouldnt trust him
grand mesa
i wish they didn't nerf cobalt
viscid remnant
Literally world record from youtube is 3 and a half hours
Thats how much u cap
Capking feji
grand mesa
Pick somegtjong for me David
grand mesa
Priest monk war rogue dh all options
safe heart
Feral is an option
quaint minnow
Weird I just watched that today David lol
viscid remnant
How hard did he try
grand mesa
Feral is an option
Feral is not an option
viscid remnant
Idc do whatv u want
edgy shale
Idc do whatv u want
u dont have to level from 0 u can level from 1
or 10
or u can do what i do and pay for boost with golder
safe heart
It's the best option
viscid remnant
Its notpossible
I cant convert token to bnet funds cuz my acc locaton isnt in the same region
edgy shale
wrong
stray sigil
tell pod to gift u it
if he doesnt u say
its cuz of pod that u are quit
gg
i see no negatives to this
stray sigil
u are emo king rn
viscid remnant
Catch me on eu realm
stray sigil
viscid remnant
Nice iq
stray sigil
how do u have more 70s on eu
stray sigil
true pod
stray sigil
nop
grand mesa
U GET FEATHER AND BODY AND SOUL?
viscid remnant
How?
grand mesa
THE MOBILITY
stray sigil
what mobility
viscid remnant
I played the game?
stray sigil
if u are slowed
viscid remnant
?
edgy shale
bro
viscid remnant
Nice brain
edgy shale
is it true that 2400 shuff player sare 1500 norma? cuz like some of these people are subhuman
and they're like 2k rating
viscid remnant
Checkpvp krakmanki
stray sigil
ok but
edgy shale
but its like btuh those bad teammates are beawting u
stray sigil
a 1600 dh
edgy shale
and ur no using ur stun
grand mesa
if a dh is 15600
stray sigil
w.e cr they are
stray sigil
atleast -400
edgy shale
he was 2k
stray sigil
on w.e cr
grand mesa
they're like fuji but worse
grand mesa
oops
quaint minnow
Is today the last day for timewalking dungeons?
stray sigil
tepid spoke
dude
i cleaved some priest and mage
this morning
with a starfire
and they both died
at the same time
grand mesa
ya
muted venture
why do restos take cultivation? it consistently does bottom healing for me
tepid spoke
mastery stack
muted venture
ahh...
grand mesa
ok fuji this TTS backseating in foxy's stream is funny
hotfixes
i knew it
@stray sigil
thick minnow
wait so if you go 0/6 in a lobby, you lose a ton of MMR. but if you go 6/0 right after, you dont gain it right back
surreal stump
It's always better to win into lose than lose into win
surreal stump
It does make sense in mmr standpoint though, the former 6-0 than 0-6 have high average mmrs.
thick minnow
It make sense that going 0/6 is -80 points, but 6/0 right after is +15?
tepid spoke
yea cuz if you go 0-6 ur mmr drops to the ground
and ur next game is shitty mmr so u wont win much points
thick minnow
if your MMR drops to the ground, you get placed into a new lobby at that new MMR
surreal stump
It just sucks when you have absolutely no control over the result, like two healer queue together and suicide every round (remove all gear) and get quick 3-3 for conquest farming
thick minnow
like ideally, you're 1000 MMR, you lose 6, you're now 920 MMR. Insstead of a 1k lobby, you play in a 920 lobby
you win 6? +80 and right back up
the fact I lose 80, then gain 15 for a 6/0, then gain 40 for a 6/1. Makes zero sense
5/1*
surreal stump
well, cause cr is not mmr
When MMR>CR you wins get more cr, and loss lose less cr, vice versa
grand mesa
no what is that
fair mirage
Early lobbies being go nexts on alts is so annoying.
fair mirage
the fact I lose 80, then gain 15 for a 6/0, then gain 40 for a 6/1. Makes zero s...
Just need to queue and win more.
The rating changes generally make sense but it doesn't matter.
edgy shale
@stray sigil
stray sigil
wat
tawdry monolith
Any tips against Dk/dh dk/evoker dk/ww? Is it just an auto trinket tranq always on grip into abom limb goes? I try to bait grip with travel form but still get into stun range
south oyster
afk the lobby early
hollow condor
Has anyone gotten a Dalaran shuffle game?
tepid spoke
Its not a map in the shuffle rotation
hollow condor
Let’s see it big boi
edgy shale
waxgu means?
edgy shale
wdym
stray sigil
fuk u pod
edgy shale
fuk u pod
why dont u pet ur doggie and say good doggie? u say bad docgie and give farts
edgy shale
@grand mesa @viscid remnant @stray sigil where did pemguin hey bammr¿
@hollow condor @tepid spoke @lavish pagoda
edgy shale
https://tenor.com/view/meds-offer-medicine-medication-schizophrenia-gif-26473326
why
@stray sigil
edgy shale
Taxes I will stay subbed for now
penguin
safe heart
exotic wolf
morning peeps 
tardy hare
Greetings traveler
viscid remnant
Rightplay
exotic wolf
like ideally, you're 1000 MMR, you lose 6, you're now 920 MMR. Insstead of a 1k...
I love those discussions.
wait till people understand that most solo Q systems make you play way more and make it harder to climb as soon as you have played a lot of games and are nearly 50% winrate.
tardy hare
I love those discussions.
wait till people understand that most solo Q systems m...
I love it when people play shit, get punished for playing shit and then complain like its weird that they lose rsting after losing SIX matches in a row
edgy shale
why did my dk decide to chase around a mw instead of killin the arcane mage?
viscid remnant
Mike
edgy shale
rlly?
viscid remnant
Waltuh
edgy shale
u hate him?
edgy shale
so u dont hate him, u just wwant him ded?
viscid remnant
Dont care
edgy shale
edgy shale
NO FUCKAIWNRA
30 min Q
pops
someone doesn't load in
ok time for another 30 min Q ig
fun
fair mirage
Ahhh, that is nice.
I had either used atnames or party12 but didn't have anything to let me know which is which
edgy shale
edgy shale
I had either used atnames or party12 but didn't have anything to let me know whi...
ducker do do shuffling latelY? do u have problem where the healer is like 500 rating below the lobby and has 0 ability to heal the ebola damagur being putted out?
fair mirage
Very minimal shuffling I have been on alt bender
edgy shale
fair mirage
They did change healer mmr tho where like
you can get a 2300 mmr healer in a 1950 game
but healers are matched
two 2300 healers 1950 dps. or 2300 dps and 1900 healers.
so yeah lowbie healers get mogged
edgy shale
i keep having the problem with the second one
fair mirage
Yep
fair mirage
torn to pieces
can't handle the pressure
feels bad mang
the mode was already no brain dmg spam
edgy shale
the players are also surprisingly bad even as im going higher lol
shuff is truly a game mode
viscid remnant
One of the game modes
edgy shale
yea
im having fun with shuff
i just wish i didn't have to wait 30 min for a dog shiat lobby
where i barely get to play
fair mirage
i have felt entirely uncompelled to actually push
leveling alts and collecting elite sets been chill
there was an addon workaround that warrs were using
for uhh intervenes
one always wen thealer one went dps
annoying that it's a convoluted feature
it's so good to just be able to cast at team
in new mode
anything to simplify/streamline
tiny oar
good morning
viscid remnant
gm
lavish pagoda
<@186948089305628672> <@272407267222224896> <@416041385800761344>
Oswin?
edgy shale
yeah
do u just check discord and have like literally 50 pings from honfar?
and me ig
tiny oar
@lavish pagoda love you sweetie
lavish pagoda
<@416041385800761344> love you sweetie
Dang i love you too ❤️
lavish pagoda
do u just check discord and have like literally 50 pings from honfar?
Yes
edgy shale
edgy shale
<@416041385800761344> love you sweetie
U smell like a doggie took a dump on a sidewalk and left it for 3 days and 3 nights then went back and pick it up
tiny oar
U smell like a doggie took a dump on a sidewalk and left it for 3 days and 3 nig...
shut the frick up PODD
edgy shale
cuz i don't like when people get banned cuz its like...bro don't ban
just time them out for am onth or sometin
tiny oar
a month lol
edgy shale
tiny oar
I like pengy but they have a habit of inciting arguments and making ppl angry
tiny oar
not very conducive to a chill server
tiny oar
yea just look at u for example
edgy shale
exactly
lavish pagoda
U smell like a doggie took a dump on a sidewalk and left it for 3 days and 3 nig...
This is so wrong tho
edgy shale
lakez look at offtopic
when i respond to a msg where u get @'d does it acutally @ u again?
edgy shale
lavish pagoda
lavish pagoda
IPod tries to type any word with the letter p and it just autocorrects to
edgy shale
@viscid remnant Q cap on priest?
viscid remnant
<@247410790083198976> Q cap on priest?
edgy shale
uise ur gold to buy time
tiny oar
@stray sigil secret final fantasy account ??
exotic wolf
tardy hare
normal upgradew guy
ember dock
ah ok
viscid remnant
good job pod
edgy shale
in this stupid ball of melee cleave
dh does literally unhealable damagur
idk wat to do
tiny oar
i mean yea WHAT OF IT
edgy shale
to win
davider
when a dps goes 6-0
the other dps go 2-4
and the healers go 3-3
i lost 40, not legendary
tardy hare
nooberdog
viscid remnant
Noobpod
edgy shale
i can kite out of the melee clump, but th en i can't do damagur
i like lobbies with a caster cuz then ppl mongo him and leave me alone
tiny oar
<@113876573869834241> look in offtopic <@237412116024393728>
hahahah nice
edgy shale
i mebe take ursols
dreamy grove
time to drop movement speed and take natures vigil
ram ur head against the cleave and see who comes out on top
pallid coral
yeah i know ij ust wanna know wat i should do next time
more dam
edgy shale
polar nymph
i can kite out of the melee clump, but th en i can't do damagur
Usually against DH I either bleed them and kite spamming Moonfire and instant roots or focus someone else and just use instant roots on the DH.
Wild Charge leap is pretty good for this too.
grand mesa
Morning
viscid remnant
Hi
grand mesa
yeah i know ij ust wanna know wat i should do next time
Shit out more damage
edgy shale
yes hes basnned
viscid remnant
I think about leveling and then i dont wanna play anymore
grand mesa
Don’t be afraid to touch the healer mid game. It really fucks with them and creates huge pressure. Doesn’t mean you ride them nonstop. But if you’re doing giga cleave on dps and then randomly maim FF them once in a while and chase them around for 10s they really hate that
Damp is getting too high and you’re pushing them away from their dps cause they have to run from you. And who knows when their dps lines their healer
And they have CDs allocated in their mind assuming they don’t get gone on because they haven’t been all game etc.
Also being In the paint but on their side so you’re inbetween clump and healer and being in skull bash range but you never kick. Lol. Huge mental dmgur to the healer
That’s personally when feral has been most uncomfortable for me Atleast. The ones who just stay in the clump and take infinite damage is ok. The ones who switches every once in a while and sit on me for a bit we’re really annoying
edgy shale
damagur
grand mesa
Was that your takeaway 🤣
edgy shale
yeah
grand mesa
I hate you
viscid remnant
Damajur
grand mesa
That should be my next dps alt name
serene wadi
hey guys, do the pvp gears scale up in war mode or duel?
grand mesa
They scale up in duel and in pvp combat
The trinket bonus activates in war mode but the gear doesn’t scale up
Unless you’re specifically in the warmode WQ area
serene wadi
hmm do I get scale up when some player touch me?
grand mesa
Yes that’s initiates pvp combat
edgy shale
puzzle u dont even wanna know wat im doing right now
itsso legendfardtry
it would blow upside ur mind and brain
edgy shale
legendary
viscid remnant
pod how much till maitnence
serene wadi
Yes that’s initiates pvp combat
so I will see my hp boosts at the second when I get in pvp combat right?
grand mesa
Yes
edgy shale
its like 2 1/2 hours i think
and im doing restoration
ion shuff
cuz i got raged at long Qs
edgy shale
im the best heller to ever live
grand mesa
Well you’re queueing during demon NA hours so
serene wadi
thanks!
grand mesa
I can’t wait to cap on alt as boomkin lol. Maybe get alittle lucky and get my 4pc this week on it???
edgy shale
idk maybe on that or on name plates
grand mesa
Healing based of hots on nameplates is really cursed
edgy shale
welll io just like being able to loo kat wat happening more ezily than staring at the lifebarts
grand mesa
Ok so servers don’t come back up until 2pm est
exotic wolf
oh right, you guys already have reset
grand mesa
But that’s enough time to get my next catalyst charge
exotic wolf
tell me about trading post when your servers are back up
grand mesa
Well it hasn’t gone down yet but it will in a few hours
Ya I can’t wait to start on it
Casuals getting content is good for everyone else imo
pallid coral
tell me about trading post when your servers are back up
trading post opens on eu before na
because it opens on 1st of feb
which happens on eu first
viscid remnant
pallid coral
yeah the existence of time is one of my strengths
exotic wolf
how's your rank 1 push going?
the others all dropping?
ranked #6
did u gain a rank?
viscid remnant
i think that was his rank before nerf too
grand mesa
Lontar playing rdruid until he takes back r1 lol
viscid remnant
still need to see him on hpal
after he said
its one of the best
but ofc he is a pussy sitting his rank
jajajjaja
pallid coral
i got overtaken by twinkle
looks like
he's overtaken me like 5 times
and then tanked back below
5 times
grand mesa
Hahaha
Lontar still on nourish
It did feel good the more I played with it. Only way to keep pod alive
grand mesa
Depends on feji
Have you downloaded awareness yet
Mes WA. Healer in CC WA. Bigdebuffs
grand mesa
he’s a raider he knows how to get WAs himself
It’s you pure pvpers that are useless with everything like this 🤣
grand mesa
You suck at that too it’s almost 5am your time
edgy shale
legendary
grand mesa
That word is giving me ptsd
viscid remnant
edgy shale
legendary
grand mesa
Ok I’m not playing with iPod anymore
viscid remnant
grand mesa
That word is so hard banned
viscid remnant
Pod is banned yes
grand mesa
David I am going MH/OH tech soon. You are true visionary
I wanna see what 16% mastery does for nourish
viscid remnant
thick minnow
3/3, 0 points, 4/2, 0 points, 6/0? believe it or not....15 points. "Why dont people wanna play healers?"
grand mesa
You have to just consistently win to fix ur MMR
If you have a string of 5-1s and 6-0s you’ll start building inertia on your MMR
thick minnow
yea i do, then i win 5/1 and get +40
then have one game going 1/5 and it's all gone and back to zero rating gains. big sade 😦
grand mesa
Also you have to prove tosystem you can beat bigger healers
Like if you’re 5-1ing people 100 MMR below you. But getting 1-5’d by healers at or above you
slate hedge
grand mesa
The. You’re kinda where you need to be
thick minnow
1600
literally played vs ahealer
my same MMR
so i dont get how the game can go "oh ur not good, let me lower your skill bracket"
and then in the new skill bracket go "oh you know what...lets wait and see"
grand mesa
Yeah idk just play better
thick minnow
yea tell that to every healer quiting
grand mesa
Win more
viscid remnant
after u lose a few in a row
thick minnow
Yea just really bad design
cause games and lobbies are so random
1/5s happen all the time
grand mesa
Idk I get 1-5 once in a while
Drop a ton of MMR
And then shit on people to get back where I was over a few games. Then I get another chance to gain rating from my original starting point by not playing like shit the next time
It sounds reasonable
thick minnow
that sounds awful. what you talking about?
you have one bad game and then are forced to play 3 more
against shitters
that you stomp
grand mesa
What are you expecting ?
thick minnow
the same?
grand mesa
By going purely on win rate?
thick minnow
1/5 -60 points; 5/1? +60
viscid remnant
yes
i had 60 points for 4 wins
even more
u just need to get mmr
its not complicated
grand mesa
This is not the reason why healer MMR is suppressed
thick minnow
well it's a combo of it all
but yea
just not fun
to play games, have one good game, one bad game, and depending on which came first, you're either fucked in MMR gains or not
grand mesa
Sounds like you want it to go purely by win rate irrespective of MMR. So if you spend a sesh going 51% or higher it’s a gain no matter who you play against
thick minnow
Just used to games like dota
grand mesa
Which might not be terrible tbh but it’s just not how arenas worked
thick minnow
where you win +30
you lose -30
if you shit stomp lower players and win a lot, you get a fuck ton of MMR
thick minnow
moment you lose, streak ends, and back to +30/-30
viscid remnant
the mmr shifts are big because shuffle games are longer than normal arenas
u do 6 "3v3" games in 1 shuffle
ofc the mmr changes will be bigger than normal 3s
grand mesa
I think you’re exaggerating tbh. I have a Mordor evoker I’m shit on around 1500-1700 range and I lose multiple times in a row and drop 200-300 MMR and just keep playing. It’s never felt like I was stuck. I win or draw 3-3 a few times in a row and it’s a new high. Idk. I think you’re lose streaking more than you’re win streaking and you’re where the system thinks you belong
thick minnow
It's cause there's losing streaks in this system for some reason
like winning streaks make sense. to get smurfs up to their proper MMR while not fucking the lower brackets
pallid coral
this is just how MMR systems work?
thick minnow
but losing streaks never make sense in any game because they're unfun, punish you extremely hard, and sometimes out of control
not it's no
Just walked you through dota
you only get win streak MMR gains and ONLY if you stomp
viscid remnant
is 4-2 a stomp ?
pallid coral
no you typed something incorrect
viscid remnant
why do u compare dota and wow its not the same game
pallid coral
yeah and they function similarly same as league?
if your MMR is below your visible rank
you'll climb more slowly
thick minnow
and losing streaks MMR is just not a fun mechanic for pugging
pallid coral
until you equalise your mmr
losing streaks isn't a function of the system its just you being bad and losing?
thick minnow
If you lose in league. YOu get shit stomped 5 games in a row
next game you win, do you not gain MMR?
thick minnow
ok well in WoW you dont
pallid coral
???
thick minnow
if you lose 5 games in league
and drop 125 MMR
assuming 25, i dont play league
your next win, do you get +25?
pallid coral
mmr gains are never stable like that because they're dependent on lobbies
thick minnow
cause in dota, you can lose 50 in a row, and your next win is +30
pallid coral
all losses are not equal
thick minnow
im asking in league
pallid coral
losing a game where the elo system thinks you're favoured
and i'm having to explain the basic concepts of how MMR and elo works
thick minnow
?
pallid coral
?
grand mesa
Dota and league are much more popular games. So you’re probably playing equal rating most games. Wow there’s more MMR disparity between lobbies
pallid coral
no MMR is a pretty solved system nowadays
thick minnow
with their loss streaking
pallid coral
if you lose
you lose mmr
matchmaking is based on mmr
if you lose you lose mmr
so you get put in lower mmr lobbies
thick minnow
yes? I went 0/6 in a lobby, my next lobby i went 6/0. In any other game, that's a +100/-100 MMR shift
grand mesa
Btw. This has always been the case in wow arena. Nothing changed for shuffle. They’re just batching 6 arena games into 1 match
pallid coral
yes? I went 0/6 in a lobby, my next lobby i went 6/0. In any other game, that's ...
no
thick minnow
in WoW? that's a -80/+15 MMR shift
grand mesa
Do you not understand that your 6-0 you probably shit on a bot healer and you were probably much higher MMR and the MMR/rating gain is commensurate to that
thick minnow
@grand mesa they're always had loss streaking in 3v3?
nope
bnecause our MMR
was the same
viscid remnant
the wise words of machtig leider
viscid remnant
win more
thick minnow
I went 0/6 by poor plays and playing in a lobby higher than my MMR with the new system
pallid coral
you're fundamentally understanding a very common system nowadays
thick minnow
and then got placed into an equal MMR lobby, went 6/0 and got nothing
pallid coral
you lose a lobby you lose mmr and you lose cr
since MMR changes are more swingly than CR changes (an intentional system)
swingy*
your mmr drops below your cr
when you win that game
it adjust your mmr back up
thick minnow
Yea my 0/6 game I lost, MMR lobby was 200 MMR over myself
thick minnow
game I went 6/0 on right after? I was the same
thick minnow
so if everything is matching. MMR/CR
pallid coral
at which point you will gain drastically more
thick minnow
why did i only gain =15
pallid coral
do you like read words that are typed
thick minnow
yes?
pallid coral
or are you just righteously and moronicly indignant about something you seem to understand very little
thick minnow
im saying my MMR and CR are the same as everyone else in this new lobby
pallid coral
?
thick minnow
so explain
if my MMR/CR
are equal
and equal or within 50 of everyone else
why did i only gain 15 rating going 6/0, off the back of an 0/
grand mesa
He’s a healer btw guilty
grand mesa
LOL
thick minnow
you havent explained it
pallid coral
I have
thick minnow
you only said if your MMR/CR are idfferent
pallid coral
you haven't read it apparently
pallid coral
Your CR tries to chase your mmr
im not gonna says its super simple because apparently you don't understand
thick minnow
But my MMR/CR were the same in this new lobby i went 6/0 on
pallid coral
but its eminently understandable
thick minnow
so how is it chasing. thats my confusion
pallid coral
it doesn't have anything to chase because they're equal
you will have gained less rating
thick minnow
so if my MMR/CR are equal
pallid coral
but you'll have gained drastically more mmr
thick minnow
an you go 6/0
pallid coral
so the next game you win
thick minnow
what should I win
pallid coral
you will gain more cr
viscid remnant
but u realize that because they are equal u gained piss rating but u gained a lot of mmr so next gam eu win and get a lot of cr
ty guilty
which is why we say
win more
lose less
shocking
thick minnow
Look i get getting piss rating if you go 4/2
or even 3/3 if your MMR is way ovewr your CR
you still gained at a 3-3
but a 6/0? that shouldnt be piss rating gains.
pallid coral
its piss because your mmr sucks
viscid remnant
what you are typing literally doesnt matter
pallid coral
however
like what matters for climbing
isn't your rating
rating's irellevant for climbing
viscid remnant
^
pallid coral
thats why leaving was so op
because you lost CR but not mmr
the reward for going 6-0 is getting an insane mmr boost
thick minnow
im saying a system where your MMR/CR are equal, in game lobby where everyone is also equal to your MMR/CR levels, and you go 6/0
shjouldnt reward you with +15
pallid coral
dont have piss mmr then
pallid coral
like here's a prime example
im on a huge win streak
so my mmr is in the stratosphere
i have a bad game
lose barely any rating
but I toilet my mmr
and then have to win some insane games
to gain back mmr
or like way back here where i randomly got in a rut
and 3-3's were giving me +1
because mmr bad
vs
earlier when mmr was good
where 3-3's were like 30 points
like here
all that matters is your mmr
everytime you look at your cr for anything other than hitting a breakpoint
you're being dumb
thick minnow
Thanks for the examples. I get that. I just don't find it a fun system. There's a reason other games don't implement it. Punishing bad games in a pug environment with randoms = people quit
viscid remnant
everyone is playing with randoms in solo
thick minnow
yea i know
so? still a bad system. Loss streaks happen
bad games happen
I've gone 0-12 in dota before
pallid coral
I mean this is just how all mmr systems with a visible rank + a hidden mmr function
thick minnow
then turned around and went 12-0
viscid remnant
yep
thick minnow
but it's not because those games dont implement loss streaks
viscid remnant
it just seems worse cuz the mmr swings are huge if u go 1-5 twice in a row
thick minnow
I can buy a ranked immortal account right now in dota. Lose 50 games. My next win is +30
pallid coral
guarantee you they do
i bet i can go find a multitidude of examples in both game sof people who lose more t han they gain
because they have toilet mmr
thick minnow
Imagine playing league/dota and after going 0-10, your next 3 games you get +5 MMR instead of +30
?
no you wont lol
pallid coral
yeah that's litterally how it works
thick minnow
you'll only find smurf boosting
so if you're like a 6k MMR player playing with 3k players, you'll go mid, shit stomp the game ( you have to stomp), you'll start getting massive MMR gains
but if you win streak games, you still wont gain more than +30
pallid coral
i've litterally allready found one
thick minnow
so in the first valorant i dont see any +5 MMR gains
same with the last
also dont see any massive losses
in league, whats that icon for the first guy
viscid remnant
lose 25 points and only getting 14 ?
pallid coral
? he's consistently losing more than he's gaining in the valorant example
of his visible rating
thick minnow
yea one game was -32, so he lost MMR by spltting even. That's not what im talking about
pallid coral
(none of these images show mmr changes)
pallid coral
no none of these images show mmr changes
they show visible rating changes
when your mmr is lower t han your visible rating
this happens
thick minnow
Yes and what if you only gained +5 after a -32 loss?
thick minnow
yea it looks like the game said you should win this game, you had a bad game, you lose 32
I dont see a +5
for the next win
or +10
or something
pallid coral
ok now we're just at the point where i think you have to be being deliberately stupid and i'm bored of explaining what should now be a very simple concept
tardy hare
ok now we're just at the point where i think you have to be being deliberately s...
i got to this point just by reading his chats last time already
thick minnow
that the same player?
grand mesa
Oh this is still going lmao
viscid remnant
pallid coral
i got to this point just by reading his chats last time already
i don't understand how the relationship between mmr and cr is so hard to understand man
these people
tardy hare
can he just send the screenshot of mmr pre loss, after loss and after win
pallid coral
hi guys i know i'm 2k rated with 1400 mmr but i should totally gain as much rating on a win as i lose on a loss!!!!!
viscid remnant
nah machtig its only in his head
thick minnow
now you're straw maning?
thick minnow
I said my CR/MMR were the same in this new lobby
and the healrs MMR/CR was the same
and the lobby MMR was within 50 of my MMR
tardy hare
ok stop saying
viscid remnant
no im not strawmanning im gaslighting
viscid remnant
tardy hare
no point argueing without screenshots from your side
cause in my head its the other wya around for me anyway
my mmr only goes up
more than it goes down
¯_(ツ)_/¯
pallid coral
i've deffinetly tanked my mmr
at one point
but I just reset mental grinded out my wins
tardy hare
yes but you just stop going 0-6 and then it goes up anyway
pallid coral
I have a couple of 1-5's
viscid remnant
machtig best
tardy hare
xd
pallid coral
i went 1-5 in a jaimie whaaz lobby
where jaimie was gonna go 6-0
and then just randomly flopped in last game against whaaz + warrior
tardy hare
gg
pallid coral
it coulda been a 3-3 though
had 2 games with whaaz
where jaimie lived on like
sub 5% health
tardy hare
idk only time i go worse than 3-3 is when i full on int myself
people always complain their teammates int every game
tardy hare
i mean obviously they can do better
pallid coral
(like any lobby with a good rogue)
tardy hare
but its useless blaming that
ye big rogues are annoying
i love shuffle crybabies
they feed me
biggest reality check
unable to climb shuffle
viscid remnant
pallid coral
this is a david targeted call out
tardy hare
plenty in the sea
viscid remnant
igot my 2.4 and iam out okdud
tardy hare
viscid remnant
