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It’s only going to get worse if the games from yesterday have any indication
more ppl getting 4set
more kenker u will have
but seeing this dmg
NS every 30sec
is maybe not enough ?
KEKW
we'll see next week when I'm lucky and get 4 set
but it feels sketchy ngl
dmg super sketch atm
Everyone gonna fry react all day? Sheesh
Too many cats in bed
Tier sets. Buff to ret. Etc
Bro the more I think about I don’t think they’ll nerf nourish and the other cracked shit from healers next week. All that might not even be enough to have games go to 2min or longer lol
is the feral nerf gonna be huge?
Games dont end cuz of lack of healing
They end cuz 8 diff specs have crit dmg modifiers and 100-0 you in 1.8s
So I dont think nourish is gonna make games much different
I don’t know how many times it’s true 100-0s. It happens sure
🤔
I think you might be surprised but who knows
How many times are u sad that you’re inbetween swiftmends or you proc sotf but you can’t cast the regrowth u know
Might be coping
feels like the shadowlands direction
Maybe idk not very often
At the very least it’ll be good against ele 🤣
hope it doesnt end like shadowlands season 1
When people randomly go 100-20
The lack of healing losing games issue mostly happens to me in purge spam lobbies
Also
Wild synthesis is probably purgeable anyways
Evokers ruining the game
Ya we’ll see how it plays out
More curious about how insane 45s melee wing cd will be
time to log hpala??
I do have a shuffle ready hpal from week 1
But I don’t really chase fotm. I just play druid lol
you can fish for wild synthesis behind a pillar
Bet its much more mana efficient
than spamming regrowth
New talent next week
Every 3 regrowths become insta cast nourish
With another +100% mastery bonus
So like +400%
rets are disgusting right now god damn
When I checked on PTR David. With the usual hots on someone getting tunneled , non crit regrowth was around 44k. Non crit nourish was 150k
Even just being able to fast cast nourish will be nice
And obv in tree everything is immortal
Only tannel?
Borngood such a lord
Just a giant tree bunny hopping around regrowth x 3 -> nourish -> regrowth x3 -> nourish lmao
Ya the mana isn’t a concern
Extra mastery stack
There aren’t many times I die to oom
It actually happens in my Mordor evoker games
Cause no one knows how to do damage
Run down mana pool to keep some1 alive for extra 10secomds
But not druid games
Tree buffs wg too no?
tree buffs all healing by 15%
Not increased healing
But yeah tree flat buffs healing +15%
What’s also nice is u can tree while silenced lol
So if I get stranged on limb go or spr I just use that time to tree
😳
u are the real hero pykan
goated show
@stray sigil was so toxic and flamed my rsham so hard I don’t want to play it anymore
Bad person
Your lock too is a victim of fuji
like this shit
Lmao
Unironically kinda bored
Of playing same class
But also dont wanna feed on priest
Unlucky
Mordor is fine and fun
We disc demo ez
ineed to post tunnel again ?
whos the pig waking up at 4pm
NOT ME
U ARE
PIG
PIGGY MADERFAKER
u are pig
true
Shadowmelded that hoj between your supple cheeks
Wish they had more skill expression like that. Bring back fleshy C
Yea that was a cool interaction
We have that its called tranquility
Give me more
Man I need to do keys
But the prospect of pugging
Kills me
On explosive week no less
Rewatched cdew when he played me. He would just horse charge me just to bait tranq lol
I've witnessed some criminal tank play in pugs
But u still have to tranq idk
Yeah
If you tranq it's on the DPS to punish the position
He does it and gets the blind out
People will learn to hit the Paladin soon
And dps just watch an hpal squat on me and does nothing
(Cope)
Well if hpals get visibly slapped in awc over and over again on melee wings might change
I just don’t see u ever winning a CC trade against hpal
They’re just so advantaged in CC games
Cause day u meld rake go for clone. He can just trinket hoj blind. Still has his bubble
Idk
Melee wings is kinda insane
That’s why I didn’t clone out of that meld rake on dew
You needed help form the dps
Maybe you could tranq if he trie to bait. Moment tranq ends you meld and pray to meld the hoj
Hoj range is so bizarre
And somehow get away from the blind too
Tbf you got a dr stun form the dk lmao
I’m gonna try the typhoon talents against hpal next week
If the knockback is reliable outside of hoj range
And longer range clones
Yeah
Man
And if u can heal from alittle further back they have to cross bigger distance
I wish there was more loadouts
Idk
I think I have to just bite the bullet and delete all feral loadouts at this point
To save more stuff for re sto
Have u messed with the addons that give more?
I was coping that I would play feral in pvp and saved a few diff talent setups for it
its even worse
1 for pvp 1 for pve
I have aggro damage one and a boomkin range one
what do u need so many for
Yeah I just one with boomie range and typhoon
I used boomkin range one with innervate for 3s aagainst dhdk a lot
And one with full dam, one full defensive
so what the verdict on hpal
Way easier from 25
as feral, i gotta say, im a huge explosive breaker
and im competitive, i track it on details and on weak aura
not gloating i fell asleep and didnt watch the games
so idk if they are being picked / not picked
Agreed
We're talking about shuffle mostly
Not the same as regular 3s let alone as tournament games
is gg pikaboo?
and yeah i just wanna know hpals representation in awc
Just sending kitchen sink CDs
anyone playing rogue mage?
represenTEITION
Over and over again
I’m excited to see the top 8
the best holy paladin in the world
LOL maldiva get fucked
whats the context here?
it doesnt matter
if he competed
he woudlnt even make out out of qualifier
its real
something similar happened in poe where some streamer got permabanned for flaming the devs
i feel like if u got something to lose
yeah
hold ur tongue
that guy deserved it
lol
i know exactly who u are talking about
and he deserved it
lmao
I mean if that’s true, that’s kinda ridiculous
Tbf I don’t think maldiva should be hard banned if it’s cause of his twitter shit
Even if I don’t agree with anything he said and he’s a pos
100%
Also true LMAO
isn't eu harder?
Yes
Why would it be harder?
The only one who has played shuffle to a decent level both regions is David so
better players?
Eu 1000 = NA 2600
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I wonder how the meta is diff
na had less ele sham and less dh
more tactical it looks like
@grand mesa tonight ill stream a couple games and then u can mock me and coach me

Lol what
pykan
yeah from chanimal and bicmex
The 2 best players in the world?
he is low iq troller
Lmao
Me?
no

barigiaguguagusgagsdg
Guaguagsgshshshshshhsgaguwa
I’m no gate keeper, but sometimes I just can’t let comments go without digging in rofl
an opinion different to your own doesn't mean i'm trolling
TaCtIcAl
well i guess its biased if you ask a european streamer what region is better
they will probs rep their own region
yeah i'll die on that hill, idc about peoples feelings getting hurt by words i care about gameplay integrity
how bad i the feral nerf ?
which should be more heavily monitored
I think EU is way more active and has a bigger base. We know that for a fact
hey my opinion on the eu vs na debate could be uninformed
its just the proplayers i know, more are eu
Better or worse who knows. Again david only one who has played both recently
the games i watch
In here
looks better quality and again the streamers answering the question themselves
What nerf?
PTR
They got less fur now
They’re getting buffed not nerfed
Statistically most specs have the same representation above 2.4 as NA
Both pve and pvp seem happy
idk stats, maybe their top end is better
Eu might be better at top end
like you said getting info
Yea maybe
from the best players lol
Doesn’t mean Eu is “harder” or more “tactical”
cant even compare cuz i havent played EU after dh nerfs
and sp nerfs
etc
David is Eu player and gained almost 800 rating in one sitting
Eu god
oh its 150 only
Less inflation too
in australia if we try to play eu servers its 300-400 ping, na iirc is 150-200
anyway my logic was the info i was given that eu is harder because better players at the top so in shuffle it's fair to assume that it'd be harder
eu has rusky french portugal spanish na has brazil chinese australians
same shiat
what nation is rusky lmao
doesnt matter if u play on piss rating
its literally the same
if u are playing on 3k shuffle
maybe eu harder
2.4 shuffle is piss
U can’t even translate it’s a completely different game
1500 healers are multiglad or something and like 2.4 is 2.1
To read
in 3's
Even 3s rating isn’t even consistent between seasons
How are u gonna translate a completely different game mode
It’s a waste of time
so is the consensus that solo shuffle rating doesn't represent your 3's rank
Anything u read in world of pvp reddit
U can forget
Only low iq ppl there
Also
Joefernandez is 3k in solo and 1.7k in 3x3
lmfao
oh wait previous season i mean
worldofpvp has some guy posting stats about shuffle which is interesting
but its biasedb ecause its only people who use the program / addon
I miss dh spr meta
Was somehow slower than what we have now
But now there are way less dhs i feel like
Didnt have a single 2x dh lobby while climbing to 2.4
its a shame thats how many fotm rerollers there are
But ye hpal rising
Makes sense
Dh and sp were some of the worst classes to face
As hpal
And now they are less popular
melee wings is the strongest healer cd right?
ligma is best heal cd
and here i thought it was balls
The strongest healer cd is regrowth
3x3 soon
i mean reading that reddit guarantees braindmg
i stopped taking it seriously in sl s1
(started pvping bfa s4)
healer playerbase in wow
didnt take long
is dogshit
95% of healers are dogshit
pve and pvp
look at blizzard
day after day
nerfing healing checks
in all content
wrong
Telash Greywing
Telash Greywing health reduced by 10%
There is now a 2 second delay before players take damage from Frozen Ground after Frost Bomb.
Ruby Life Pools
Reduced the damage of Primalist Cindweaever’s Cinderbolt by 50%.
educed the periodic damage of Thunderhead’s Rolling Thunder by 30%.
Reduced the damage of Flamegullet’s Molten Blood by 25%.
Reduced the periodic damage of Blazebound Destroyer’s Inferno by 25%.
its pve
Kyrakka and Erkhart Stormvein
Reduced the periodic damage of Kyrakka’s Inferno Core by 20%.
Reduced the damage of Erkhart Stormvein’s Interrupting Cloudburst by 30%.
in pvp most healers are doggo too
i believe low cr healers might be bad, but people who get really high cr cant be carried as healer, can they?
bm hunters have access to 430 mythic raz bow and 4pc
in bfa s4 yes
in awc they can get any item? from anywhere? or its just a copy of their character with regular gear?
seemingly any item from anywhere
yea theres vendor for any item
so bm hunters get 2 massive buffs effectively
I don't care what anyone says, getting to 1800 in SS isn't easy. Especially if you're an old dude like me. The game just moves too fast
my friend made it to 2300 as shadow priest
he usually gets around 1800-1900ish on 2s as warrior, which is his main, but he decided to go shadow this one
i can barely get out of 1600 as healer
and i get pissed with myself coz i suck

Not quite Boomer, but mid late 40s. Having a hard time, been bouncing between mid high 1500s and high 1700s for like 2-3 weeks
Just can't get over the hump... yet
You’ll get there
I have confidence that I will but it's frustrating
wait late 40's aint boomer
you coping old man
but yeah game is too fast
and it feels shit
1000 games
around 50% winrate
and people are too pc so unjust bans are thrown around
Getting a couple addons to help with awareness helps, being objective with your own play. If you lose a round make a mental note of how you could have peeled or sent your damage better
was at 1793 this morning, game conspired to put be in a couple 3 ranged DPS shuffles
So many people just send their dmg into cooldowns
I use plater, big debuffs, and whatever one alerts when your healer is CC'd
Nice that’s plenty
my big debuffs dont work anymore
im running face2face grid
which is good for heals
gladius, and omnibar
also the googlewoman
I just had a donut for the first time in awhile
gladiatorlosSa
I feel terrible
I have gladiatorlos2a or whatever it's called, I have no idea what to leave on and what to turn off, as it comes, it's like nonstop gibberish the whole time
Been a druid main for like 18 years, so it's hurting me not knowing what other classes are really capable of
i created every single class in the game so i could understand stuff better
thats alot of effort
but ofc theres people that just study stuff
so tell me, what is the warriors weakness?
for me? roots
I have no idea. I just bleed them up and try to stay away/root them if they're big and brown or use a defensive if they spear me
ah. i just leveled them so i could understand better what their skills were
what was like their bursts, how their big cds and big defensives looks like
Oh, I've played thousands of BGs. I have Khan, Battlemaster, all that stuff done.. But this is the first time I've tried arena
did you actually level or class trial?
for example, not many ppl know that evoker has a defensive similar to "touch of karma", but instead of doing damage to enemy, it heals himself for the dmg received.. maybe more similar to alter time
That’s a good approach bandido
whats that defensive called?
But tbh the problematic abilities that classes have you end up learning anyway
you're not talking time dilation are you
Because you see it so often
i also have other toons
in other realm
the ones that its missing
shammy, dh, etc
nah
how i learnt classes is literally omnibar
classes abilities*
oh u mean on urself
u can only use that on urself
and its heal
so damp affects it
yes...
Arena is different animal gonna need a lot of reps to feel comfy
squirrelover
thats the difference between it and alter time
yes.. but many people dont even know that the ability exist
i thought you meant a defensive you can use on others
It’s ok neither does pykan
Ba dum tish
its pretty shit to use i think but you're right
LOL
LOl
Trying. about 500 shuffle rounds in. I feel like I'm getting better, but still frustrating when people thing 1800 is like snoozefest when I'm trying my hardest
The people who think 1800 is snoozefest are perennial arena guys
why is that frustrating?
its not shitty when people are playing shuffle and the first thing they do is send their whole computer + bursts cds on evoker
you're nearly 50 you should realise its just a number
It’s natural that people who do it alot find it easier
he heals alot if he survives
inv
Oh, i'm not giving up or anything or breaking anything,
Good for u
Still learning and getting better, I was just hoping to get 1800 this monring, was at 1793, then got a couple all ranged shuffles
I think shuffle has been great that between it and a good looking mog a lot of guys who otherwise might not try arena are trying it. So I’m sure there’s a lot of folks like u who are working through growing pains
solo shuffle is alright
real talk, what does a feral do in an all ranged shuffle? I try to stick close to a pillar and make them come to me more or less
I could see people being abusive real fast
That’s a @stray sigil question
Yeah I’m fine with no comms
@viscid remnant stream 3s?
should b up
Kk
aure
sure but the best player isnt european
u play melee caster into double caster?
i wasn't trying to say na is shit
ur team has to move up or u cant play
thats it rly u have to stand in between 1 caster and healer
just that i was under the impression eu is better overall
So, what does that mean?
like ur playing sp feral into like lock sp or something
melee caster into double caster
I was in a shuffle
yes im saying in ur shuffle lol
1 shuffle was 2 locks and a hunter. one was hunter, mage, ele
those dont sound that bad
its just if ur healer is unwilling to walk up
and like play a different pillar
than the one thats max range
ur gonna have a bad time
i play with ppl from here sometimes i have the same issue
so u kinda have to force it on them
make em swap pillar so u can play up
@grand mesa u watching? what do u think about 45 yarding in this comp
seems good to me
idont rly feel like my dmg impactful in this comp
cuz of the setups
OK, good stuff. Any other tips, lol
reason why im saying u stand in between the caster u want and the healer
is cuz in shuffles u want to pressure healers
sometimes just sitting in between and holding kicks
makes em juke like idiots for days
and u generate ton of pressure
or like hitting the healer when he presses cds on the spa
dps
not enuf ppl hit healers and when i mean hit i dont mind u train them the whole time
u give them love taps
and stuff
if that makes sense
<-- gets it
I get what your saying. I feel like a lot of that is predicated on having a healer know whats up
Yeah I don’t think u try to do anything but help them live for next setup
Did you recently tank and your MMR is way below your CR
nope, just lost like normal and won like normla
and it's placing me into games 100 MMR below my current MMR
and then placing me vs a healer who is 50 MMR below the lobby MMR
so 150 MMR difference
So you have more to lose and nothing to gain
It’s not a great system no
🤷♂️
@haughty compass you’re never gonna have good positioning where healer is happy on map
I think best situation is healer healing from top of stairs
And ur fighting down
@flat nymph my thing is its just important to have dmg that matters
so if u see the rdru barking the caster
hit the rdru he wastes gcds on himself etc.
and when bark ends go back on caster
Don’t tell him the secret fuji wtf
etc etc
Rdru is immortal don’t waste ur time spending any globals
if i incarn a rdru , i usually get bark + tranq all for free
why tf do i wanna play d2r so bad all of a sudden
wtf is d2r
turd
diablo 2
u get a 2 min cd + 1 min cd for a 3 min cd
seems pretty free
make em panic
feral has no boorst
incarn CDRs too
incarn not really a 3m cd tho
only if you take the talent puzzle
just liek tree
i hate talent trees
i love talent trees rn
every other day im playing a sus build because someone allocated 1 pt into a diff talent than me
we went from no incarn to all in incarn
alright fuji what point do i give up for heart
dont say swarm
im not plahing swarm lol
i think if u
chcke pvp me
the spec im in
is my shuffle
Fuji what is that dead realm
I swear people in pvp have the weirdest realms
Is there a realm first achiev for pvp?
if im not taking swarm, im not taking FF

na ff good
@grand mesa what do i swap for shroomer
face saying dreamstate
/inner peace
i kinda agree
u wouldn't drop germ i think
or swarm
ye
but it's not easy decision u know
flash of carity ?
swarm just 1 more gcd
idk if u can
that i dont care obut
u might need it to progress
i mean will it even do dmg without swarm
ye its still decent dmg
🐐 ?
Yes or nah
I swear everytime i q shuffle people from dead realms appear
That seems one of the trees of all time
That might be the reason actually

would never happen on d2
i just found out
there are portals
to the dungeons
that arent from thsi expansion
and this whole time
i took port to azuna
and flew
ROFL
lmfao
seriously david?
++
wait what
i been doing the same
getting to mop was the worst
having 2 in legion was good enough
I thought jungle ferals cleaved
sure just dont break trap

Everything is “no skill” to everyone
Can’t even win or lose games when people mald this much over a video game
assa / sp
ofc dont cleave when healer is trapped
Spriest arguing their class is skillful 
Good session, we went from 1810 to 1935
I had some shitty trinkets and we scuffed some goes, all very winnable losses
We press on
ye
couldve won that game
u trinket smokeyb
cuz i swear u were fine
u had good hots
and then next dr u die to vendetta
so sketcvhy
important for u to keep trinket
cuz u always trinket vendetta insta caut
@grand mesa
no flash of clarity seems like best point to lose
notsure
maybe lose ramparant
its not rly insane juice
cuz clarity kinda rng
id rather lose clarity
ye but what else u lose for verdancy
i guess tranq shit
depends what u are facing
i love my tranq
ye it will be sussy
Yea I knew it the second I did it, I even called it after lol
Fixable
Yea I know better for sure
Just noob mistakes, and yea our setup is super fun and strong
why
how much vers does a gladiator neck give at 424?
hi ep
hi
fuk pod
fuji wats ur opinion on using mo cap to help animate shit in movies
that's so random LOL
motion capture
like waht
golum ?
?>>>
true
Its always accurate
hang on you can just 3 socket a glad neck??
yes u can
im over here
You can do this to literally every DF neck lol
i thought it would be a one socket
you have to crafting order it
But its piss quality
I know damage isn't everything but I just NEVER seems to secure kills in shuffle, like ever. I have so many matches like this and I'm just not sure what I'm doing wrong.
Terrible losing streak, now I'm at the lowest I've been in a couple weeks. Enough shuffle for the week maybe.
Tell feji the dog to log voice
could be a million things
its hard to tell looking at dmg details
WHY IS fuji flaming troll?
Yeah, I know.. it's just like feral is a meme now. Seems like people make it out to be like, just do damage, and you'll be at 1800.
Its kinda true tho
But I just can't seem to make it work
Shuffle is mostly about doing max dps and not dying
how are you losing games
well, that's just it, I didn't die once, did almost twice the damage and two others there, I go 1-5. /shurg
like
Cant tell shit without gameplay
are you losing to yourself dying
no, not once
ok so how are you losing what's happening
Not sure, ret was the target every time, and died a bunch, i think maybe he got some big crits on people on my team when facing me, but didn't when i was on his team? I don't really know, the matches were all pretty quick.
LOL
Maybe you need to peel more when there’s a kill opportunity for the other team and your dmg is just gonna get healed up anyway
idk
Maybe, I felt like I was throwing out NS roots all the time, that's why my healing was a little low.
Yeah, I feel like pretty regularly. But it's hard to say
Yeah, maybe I just need to use maim more? I don't know? But how are we suppose to secure kills? I feel like I'm almost never getting the kill in shuffle. I just wear the other team down.
Seems like the only time I get kills with any regularity is when facing a UDK, and I chain several free bites in a row from all the rip ticks proccing Apex Predator
its def better vs uhdk but the principle kinda the same
u cleave ppl
and proc apex
pressure healer
stun ppl
my hunter friend finally got the bow
i will never step on that shithole fight again
even 411?
👀
its true
go back to rbg pls
for pver

And tanked 150 cr in shuffle
davidee
face tge king of tank
wgen keys u ape animal
dud
i had to altf4
from
jade 11
cuz i couldnt heal
i guess it wasnt rly my fault

ye i know
i say it wasnt rly my fault
u know the water elementals
at the start
that cast some shit
yes
pver gear getting better
David just fucking leaves LOL
thats not healer faut
Gotta get that 408 upgrades dude
Fuck I think this weekend I get a few beers and just cobalt that second evoker...
Lol
I had some offensive burst
maybe it could be okay cuz im playing 45yard range build
who iceblock
oh
thats an annoying one for me tho
but ye
probably good
u need to say when u press it
so i dont waste gcds healing nothing
ye who cares bro



