pvp

[edgy shale]

wats ur classes

[stray sigil]

bunch of psych classes

mythology and uh

japanese

[edgy shale]

god

[stray sigil]

cuz those 2 looked dope

[edgy shale]

ur such a fucking weeb

[viscid remnant]

Useless major

[stray sigil]

its a psych major

[viscid remnant]

So true pod

[stray sigil]

wdym

[edgy shale]

ok

[viscid remnant]

Im unblocking u for that 1

[edgy shale]

but what psych classes

[stray sigil]

i just had space

mfer i am not translating all that

cba

[edgy shale]

wat...

[stray sigil]

I TAKE IT IN FRENCH IDIOM

[viscid remnant]

Nooo shot

Bruuuuuh

💀💀💀💀💀

[stray sigil]

yes ofc

[edgy shale]

what

r u saying

U WENT TO CLASS

WHAT IS THE CLASS FOCUSED ON

u can;'t be thius foolish

[viscid remnant]

Pod dont schizo pls

[edgy shale]

nom

i wannt know

[viscid remnant]

I just unblocked u

[stray sigil]

bro my brain cannot be smart rn

i am not transalting anything

im legit vegetable state

[edgy shale]

then tytpe

[viscid remnant]

U are never smart

[edgy shale]

in the untranslated

u idiot

[viscid remnant]

Name 1 time u were smart

?

[stray sigil]

always

[edgy shale]

like

there's neuroscience whcih im sure ur njot doing

there's psych statistics

there's so much shiat

in psyhcology

[grand mesa]

He’s probably doing general psych 101

[stray sigil]

PSY3501 - Psychologie de l'apprentissage en milieu scolaire

PSY4061 - Psychologie de l'apprentissage

[edgy shale]

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[stray sigil]

PSY4091 - Psychologie de la personnalité

[edgy shale]

why isu he doing

[stray sigil]

PSY4930 - Le suicide et sa prévention

[edgy shale]

4000 level courses

first year

[stray sigil]

PSY4703 - Psychologie de la famille

[edgy shale]

is he tupid

[grand mesa]

There’s an entire course on suicide prevention?

[stray sigil]

im a genius lvl iq

ye

[edgy shale]

those aren't ur classes

ur just listing

random shit

there's no way

ur taking like 10 classes

[stray sigil]

im tkaing 7 classes ye

[edgy shale]

wat dumb shiat r u saying

no1 takes 7 classes

if they are

full load classes

[grand mesa]

7 courses is a lot lol

[stray sigil]

wdym lol

japanese and mythology not course classes

and are pretty easy

[grand mesa]

Are you semester based?

[edgy shale]

....................

fuji is on some dumb shit

with 7 classes

literally wats ur schedule

[grand mesa]

Like you’re taking 7 courses for a semester?

[stray sigil]

i took extras ye

[edgy shale]

...........

ur so stupid

[grand mesa]

7 is p ambitious lol. If it’s anything like American college

[edgy shale]

7 is ridiculous

[stray sigil]

i mean japanese and mythology arent really anything crazy

so its 4 rly

[edgy shale]

BRO

ITS STILL

gOING TO CLASS

[stray sigil]

or 5

[edgy shale]

AND UR GONNA HAVE WORK

IN THEM

R U DUM DUM TUPID

[stray sigil]

ya so

[edgy shale]

???????????

u understand

[stray sigil]

i did that for my computer science major lol

[edgy shale]

with 7 classes

u could have

7 essays due in 1 day

[stray sigil]

na its fine bro

im good

[grand mesa]

I didn’t like doing 5 lol. I always tried to stick to 4 if I could

[haughty compass]

I took Japanese in hs. I’m getting deja vu...

[edgy shale]

ok either fuji is actually good at school, or he just gets Ds and is fine weith that or something cuz no freaking human being

can manage time well

and do well

in 7 clkasses

unless ur a savant

[stray sigil]

never had a problem in school

[edgy shale]

wat was ur high school gpa

[grand mesa]

They’re a different system who knows if 7 courses in a semester means the same as it would here

[stray sigil]

dont think we have gpa in highschool

[edgy shale]

wat

[stray sigil]

gpa is uni only ehre

[edgy shale]

wat

then what determines

what uni u can get into

[grand mesa]

7 courses in American school is suicide lol

[stray sigil]

u need units and shit

[edgy shale]

im p sure

most canadians universities

[stray sigil]

its not gpa

[edgy shale]

work the same as murican ones

like

[stray sigil]

for the pre uni stuff

[edgy shale]

mccghill

and u of T

[grand mesa]

You’d be spending your course in suicide prevention trying to prevent your own

[stray sigil]

its cote R they call it

[edgy shale]

FUJI UR ON DUBM SHIAt

IM JUST TTALKING ABOUT GRADES

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/ayaya-yeah-happy-hapinness-kiniro-gif-12992329

[stray sigil]

ya

[viscid remnant]

Pylon secret weeb

[stray sigil]

they give u a grade thing based on ur overalls

??

[viscid remnant]

If u have cs major

[edgy shale]

bro what dumb shiat in he saying

is

[viscid remnant]

Wheres ur fancy wfh tech job

Feji trolling?

[stray sigil]

i took networking

and it was boring

[viscid remnant]

"Cs"

[grand mesa]

I wouldn’t be surprised if fuji is good at school

[viscid remnant]

Xddddddd

[edgy shale]

so in ur college

[grand mesa]

I can see it

[edgy shale]

i would

he's terd

[stray sigil]

i mean its computer science shit

w.e

[viscid remnant]

I agtee woth pod

[edgy shale]

ur college has no gen ed?

[viscid remnant]

Feji too dumv to wake up normal

[stray sigil]

i dont even know what ur saying to me

[grand mesa]

I think that’s the Japanese and mythology Stuff ig

[stray sigil]

ima be real

[stone breach]

[grand mesa]

The gen Ed

[edgy shale]

the way he's describing his school system makes 0 fcking sense

ok but like gen ed usually would require some math and english

not just random shiat

[viscid remnant]

Calm down pod

[edgy shale]

but maybe there's a language req

[stray sigil]

oh ye

[edgy shale]

and like history

[viscid remnant]

He can do whayever he want

[stray sigil]

u do that in like pre uni

[edgy shale]

no

[stray sigil]

like philosophy

french

english

[edgy shale]

???????????

[stray sigil]

gym classes

[edgy shale]

philosphy?

lol wat

[stray sigil]

ur required to take

ye

[grand mesa]

I find ur school system so interesting

[edgy shale]

i find it terded

[stray sigil]

we have to do 4 philo classes

[edgy shale]

i never met a smart french canadian

but i also

ahvcent met many at all

[stray sigil]

im a genisu

[edgy shale]

fuji

post the syllabus

from 1 of ur psych classes

[stray sigil]

remind me tomorrow im in bed

i cba

[viscid remnant]

Icouldnt wait for u

To come and clear the cupboards

[tepid spoke]

I got botox

Gg

[viscid remnant]

And now u leave me nothin but a sign

[stray sigil]

best i can do is mythology syllabus

cuz i havec it on phone

cuz i had to take picture

[viscid remnant]

Bro studying greek mythology

JUST PLAY GOD OF WAR

[stray sigil]

true

[edgy shale]

the old ones

[stray sigil]

ye now its norse

davider

idiom

[tepid spoke]

I got Botox in my anus

[stray sigil]

[edgy shale]

wrong

[viscid remnant]

When i had mythology class in 6grade i alrdy finished god of war 3

I was smurfing

[stray sigil]

ye i took it free credits

[tepid spoke]

Cave Botox

[edgy shale]

fuji makes no sense

[viscid remnant]

The norse one is dogshiat

[stray sigil]

how does that feel matt

[viscid remnant]

God of war 3 goated

[edgy shale]

davider whyt u say this shiat

[stray sigil]

[edgy shale]

u claim u taking 7 classes

btu i see

no sybllabus

[stray sigil]

IM I NBED

IM NOT GOING ON MY PHONE AND LOOKING ON THE WEBISITE FUKU

[viscid remnant]

Pod u an english teacher and u cant even spell what does that say about american education?

[grand mesa]

I missed Nogard I’m glad he’s back

[edgy shale]

i can spell

ij ust chooze not to

[stray sigil]

u chose to be schizo

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/cap-cap-check-gif-24989004

[edgy shale]

if sum1 is typing in perfect senses in cord

with gremmers

they are bnrain damme

[viscid remnant]

You are schizophrenic

[edgy shale]

so

[stray sigil]

truie

[viscid remnant]

Bro said so

💀💀🗿🗿

[clear pulsar]

Idk I think ipod has a point

He is a specialist in being brain dmgd

You gotta consider his pov

[edgy shale]

yes i am

[viscid remnant]

Idk

[stray sigil]

hahahahaha

[viscid remnant]

Theres a difference between not spelling perfectly and typing un recognizeable words

[edgy shale]

when df do i do that

[clear pulsar]

Maybe he just plays a lot with ragnaros players and he's picking up the broken english

[viscid remnant]

Yeah

Azaralon

Pod does play in schizo hours

Makes sense

[edgy shale]

azralon pugs is goated

[viscid remnant]

[stone breach]

[viscid remnant]

Gz on ur feather

Id go schizo doing that much m+

[stone breach]

I did go schizo doing that much m+

[stray sigil]

tf is a feather

[stone breach]

https://tenor.com/view/schizo-cat-the-voices-gif-25415230

[stone breach]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=193677/furious-ragefeather

[stray sigil]

that looks like shti wtf

[edgy shale]

???????????????????????????????????

THE PASSive does like

10% of uir dam st

its a broken trinket

[stone breach]

it's insane

was a 2.4% dps increase for me on ST

no other piece over .6%

from m+

[viscid remnant]

Damn bro

Down bad for 2.4% dps

Lmao

[edgy shale]

thats a shiat load davider

ive done degenerate shiat for muhc less

[stray sigil]

wrongf

[viscid remnant]

Imagine doing like 30dungeons

For 2% dps

[edgy shale]

i dont need to imagine

i've done it

[viscid remnant]

Are u even hearing urself

[edgy shale]

[viscid remnant]

Schizophrenic

[stray sigil]

true

[edgy shale]

if im schorncpeneric

then why have i gotten 6 elementally charged stones this week?

[stray sigil]

u think we know what that is

[edgy shale]

its the thing

to upgrade ur mining

skill

[stray sigil]

[viscid remnant]

Nah man

You got 6 voices in ur head

And 3 different personalities

[stray sigil]

6 maybe lowballin even

[edgy shale]

facts?

[viscid remnant]

True feji

Way too low

[safe heart]

Tilde pics

[trail sorrel]

can someone help me with a wild charge @vale flax macro?

[stone breach]

/cast [@vale flax] Wild Charge

[trail sorrel]

want to shift into cat (if im not already cat) and charge my focus

the problem is: if i do /cast [noform:2] Cat Form /cast @ focus Wild Charge and im targeting a friendly it charges to the friendly

[stone breach]

/cast [noform:2] Cat Form
/cast [@focus,harm,nodead,form:2] Wild Charge

[trail sorrel]

enemy

same thing with this macro gharnef. i target a friendly and i charge to him cause charge is off gcd

already tried this

/castsequence [@vale flax] reset=5 Cat Form; Wild Charge

but it takes me out of cat when im already cat. so it gets me out of stealth

then i tried /castsequence [noform:2, @vale flax] reset=5 Cat Form; Wild Charge

but this doesnt work

dunno how i get the noform into a castsequence

[stone breach]

each spell needs the []

[tropic schooner]

doesnt this actually work?

[trail sorrel]

ya the first one works perfect

[tropic schooner]

cause charge is off gcd would think it should work

[trail sorrel]

didnt know in which order i had to make the macro, thanks so much

it executes the 2 abilities at the same time. cause charge is off gcd

when i target a friend it first charges to him and then gets me in cat

but the castsequence works perfect now

even in stealth it doesnt get me out anymore

could also do a @vale flax bash into it

[tropic schooner]

ngl I feel like there is some mistake in your macro then the one I commented on cannot possibly do that but as long as it works

[trail sorrel]

i use this one now: /castsequence reset=5 [noform:2] Cat Form; [@vale flax] Wild Charge

works fine

[clear pulsar]

The homie just got ragefeather first key he did on the character

@stone breach

[stone breach]

[ember dock]

Its fine took me 42

Its the journey that matters

Whats the priest ability that swaps hp with someone

[haughty compass]

Do I Q?

Now we’re talking

[grand mesa]

this is driving me crazy glyph

i keep getting errors lmao

[clear pulsar]

I won thsi round

[haughty compass]

Face Qing

[clear pulsar]

Evemy evoker at 40% mana

75% dampening

[edgy shale]

????????????????????????

evokers dont have mana

[clear pulsar]

Hahahah I rooted the evoker and he just sat there

Doing nothing

Didnt know what to do

Never happened to him that he cant move

[grand mesa]

sterge is kinda popping off lately goddamn

[haughty compass]

do i q?

[clear pulsar]

This aff lock is going 6-0

[grand mesa]

pykan why queue

the day before fixes

unless ur that bored

[clear pulsar]

No not the aff, the demo

[haughty compass]

actually yea dh / sp nerfs

indirectly buff me

[grand mesa]

yeah dh sp nerf

demo nerf

leaver fix

i mean if ur bored and want to frag have at it

[haughty compass]

ok i practice weir dbuilds in BGs

the greatest content in the game

[grand mesa]

but i get the sense ur trying to push back up

and maybe that's better left for starting tomorrow

[safe heart]

Blizzard nerfing main team

Wtf

[grand mesa]

ya

[safe heart]

This is a travesty

[haughty compass]

im getting a direct buff and those classes getting nerfed buffs me too

😄

[sly marsh]

I rooted a druid in a BG the other day and he trinketed

It hurt me

[grand mesa]

some mentions on twitter that deva might be sleeper now so

[clear pulsar]

I trinketed a root when @viscid remnant was watching me

THe other day

It was a sv hunter

Harpoon trap moment

I pre-trinketed the trap

[haughty compass]

rhsman healers and ele shaman are tough

and this weak aura doesnt seem to be working for totems and shit :<

gonna jsut get a plater going

[grand mesa]

idk why ur having such a hard time

it's weird

but yeah

i think plater is pretty bis it'll be hard to go back stock

[haughty compass]

i really lie Face's ui

like

seemed really clear and i could really tell what was happening

[grand mesa]

clean is good ya

[hollow condor]

My UI was too tunneled. I fixed it now it’s good for boomer and can see what’s going on

[haughty compass]

yea i had to move mys tuff out a little bit

feels better

[grand mesa]

i constantly go back and forth between adding new info

then pruning info

lmao

just slowly curating info i really care about that way

[haughty compass]

I generally know what the opponent is doing, its generally me needing to practicing trading

and some help seeing small things like totems and psyfiend woould be nice

but i have good instincts, lots of pvp hours

and i suck at target selection

very badly

[delicate marsh]

Finally got 2.4 in ss as resto, what a pain in the ass that was with leavers

[grand mesa]

grats buddy

got it before leaver fix too

[delicate marsh]

Thanks, shouldve gotten a badge for not leaving a single game

[grand mesa]

srsly

healers who hit 2.4 without leaving a game are the real ones

[hollow condor]

I removed all BS big CD tracking. I only track CCs now. I used to track defensives but I’m used to “knowing” when they should have something up

[grand mesa]

that was my thing too

i had omnnibar setup for like EVERYTHING

and looked at none of it

and it cluttered my screen and so many icons

that i was less likely to notice kicks/CCs

so i removed a ton

[delicate marsh]

I use the omnicd method by having major cds next to sarena frames, less clutter and i can at least see it if i want

Doesnt work in ss unfort but

[hollow condor]

Yeah lol. Same. I don’t care when they have their big burst now that I’ve played enough I can feel it coming.

[grand mesa]

yeah

i still track like limb and mind games and deathmark

but i don't track every single little burst CD now

[young condor]

how do you track cc's / defensives and offensive cds next to peoples arena frames?

[grand mesa]

for party u can do omnicd

very important if ur healing tbh

[delicate marsh]

You can use gladiusex or create seperate omnibar grps for enemies

[grand mesa]

which i just setup now

[delicate marsh]

Aeghis has a guide on yt for it with gladiusex

[grand mesa]

again

[haughty compass]

Nice job man

[violet grotto]

so helm and boots for spark, anything else worth?

[grand mesa]

i used to do it before but i never looked @ it, but i'm so used to seeing omnicd defensives on aprty frames im gonna see if it's useful to see enemies

[young condor]

nah for enemies

i have allies

[grand mesa]

gladiusex is one way

i'll show u another

[young condor]

i believe it was omnibar

[grand mesa]

yes

[young condor]

but positioned next to their frames

[delicate marsh]

Omnibar method doesnt work in shuffle at least

[grand mesa]

what are u using for arena frames

sarena?

[delicate marsh]

Me?

[clear pulsar]

Gladiusex giga out of date on some cds numbers

[young condor]

yeah sarena w xaryu

ive used it since i've played wow, never tried gladius / gladiusex

[stray sigil]

wrong fuji

[delicate marsh]

Y thats why i used omnibar, but it doesnt update correctly when rounds shuffle

[clear pulsar]

It was david watching

[clear pulsar]

I tagged the right person

[young condor]

wait what if you type /reroll each time?

[stray sigil]

fuk u den

[young condor]

reload*

[stray sigil]

bich maderfaker

[clear pulsar]

I just set it to only show when the icon is on cd

And not off

And it works better

Not ideal but yeah

[clear pulsar]

It stays tracking round 1 enemy team

[delicate marsh]

Didnt work earlier, ive disabled them since it was just a shitfest of wrong info but might have come some updates idk

[clear pulsar]

Not new rounds players

[forest kite]

?

Fuck off

Ping me again

Little skurwiel

[clear pulsar]

@forest kite

[forest kite]

I'll fucking kiss you

[young condor]

wait puzzlebox is this a sarena option?

[grand mesa]

it bugs when u have it set to always show CD even if not on CD yeah

[clear pulsar]

[grand mesa]

it carries over icons from previous rounds

[grand mesa]

no omnibar

u use both

u make a separate bar tracking arena 1, a bar tracking arena 2, a bar tracking arena 3

and then u pick the spells u want to track

[young condor]

ohh i get it

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

u can copy spell lists from previous bars

[young condor]

it'd just be defensives and probably cc tbh

but this is bugged for shuffle?

[grand mesa]

not sure i haven't used this method in a while. but all of it was bugged back then

[young condor]

reloading ui doesnt fix it?

[grand mesa]

the arena frames weren't right

and spec icons

on sarena

were all flipped around

but i think they fixed that part

[young condor]

i think the addon is called sarenaupdated now

[grand mesa]

yes

[young condor]

was last updated 8 days ago

i will try this omnibar option

[grand mesa]

Ok all 3 toons parked in front of vault ready for remoting in to open 🤣

[young condor]

btw does typing /afk

leave?

[grand mesa]

Yes

[forest kite]

[grand mesa]

@stray sigil ur still awake

[forest kite]

@grand mesa ur still alive

[grand mesa]

I am yes

[edgy shale]

@stray sigil wake up

wait

u remote in to open vault?

[forest kite]

i have 4 vaults to open tomorrow, i'm pogging

[grand mesa]

Sometimes yeah

I haven’t lately in SL cause I stopped giving a shit

But I’m kinda excited for vault since everything new. So when I’m stuck at hospital all day I ask wife to turn on PC and I remote to peak ya 🤣

[haughty compass]

gotta do a lock shuffle to 3/3 vault

[young condor]

this solo shuffle cleave build

got any obvious weaknesses? (besides bleed cleanse)

on feral that is

like do you tunnel them, spread apart? (so try to ignore / run from them)

[forest kite]

just oonga boonga man

it's shuffle

[hollow condor]

I did that and tanked. Gave up instantly lol

[forest kite]

i mean you can oonga boonga and still use some brain

my point was don't overthink it

[young condor]

feral player trying to convince their prey to run into a blender

[haughty compass]

yea like 3 people said to just afk pve heal as evoker and i lost 600 rating

went back to my aggressive style and climbed again

[grand mesa]

Who told you to afk pve heal as evoker tho

That’s what I’m curious about

[haughty compass]

Didn’t you see me and Fuji talking about how evoker is more passive than rdu ?

[clear pulsar]

Bruh

[grand mesa]

Why would you listen to fuji on anything healing

[clear pulsar]

Fuji talking about healing

And you take it srsly

No shot

[forest kite]

that's like face talking about feral

[grand mesa]

I think I’ve been pretty consistent in saying that the most annoying thing about evoker was that they can throughput like an rdruid but also push in for sleeps pretty easily. And my easiest match against evoker was one who just afk in back for 6 rounds.

[haughty compass]

Yea im the idiot tbh

Lol

Puzzle you have given me good advice my man

[young condor]

what addon / setting is chanimal using

where on ally frames

it shows all their debuffs

[grand mesa]

Idk that guy is a UI-ologist

Uhhh

Send me screen shot?

P sure I know what it is

[young condor]

sure give me a sec

[grand mesa]

Pykan I can’t believe u took healing advice from fuji and tanked 600 CR

HAHAHAHA

[young condor]

idk why the druid has none tbh, probably wasnt the target

[grand mesa]

I don’t see what you’re talking about

[clear pulsar]

I think he's just talking ab out raid frames

[young condor]

next to the arena frames

[clear pulsar]

Like

Bigdebuffs

[grand mesa]

That to me looks like

[young condor]

not the nameplates, the arena frames

those are debuffs right?

[grand mesa]

Bigdebuffs and setting it to show more

Icons

There is a script cdew uses

To show all of them

Because base raid frames will only ever show 3 debuffs

[haughty compass]

[grand mesa]

But i don’t think that plays well with bigdebuffs and fuck is it busy

[clear pulsar]

Honestly

Never

Ever

EVER IN YOUR LIFE

Listen to someone's opinion on healing who has never healed

[haughty compass]

But I gained most of it back

[clear pulsar]

You gamed hard it's what matters

And maybe it was worth the experience

[haughty compass]

And I’m 2020 in 2s, not bad

[clear pulsar]

Just gotta game it out

[haughty compass]

Yea it’s my alt spec idc

[clear pulsar]

Like I really love the nerfs tomorrow puzzle but

[young condor]

maybe thats not important, i don't really get why hes tracking that on allies aswell

[clear pulsar]

I just wanna play the game youknow

Like I couldnt just not play when I was on the laptop

I wanna play it I aint waiting for X and Y

[grand mesa]

Dude I feel you

This is your mode and this is your time

And tbh let’s be real

It’s week 4

[haughty compass]

Ele and unholy gonna be more annoying

[clear pulsar]

I wish this was my mode

[grand mesa]

We’re all gonna be comfortably legend easy

[clear pulsar]

[grand mesa]

Mid season at worst

[clear pulsar]

I'm not having a good time climbing back

[haughty compass]

[clear pulsar]

Like idk maybe this is luck and it's gonna even out over time

[young condor]

ele got buffed?

[clear pulsar]

But fucking hell man people using cds on 3% hp on my team everytime

[grand mesa]

It’s 100% Libby luck bro

Lobby

And the thing is. Shit head players leaving

[haughty compass]

That’s a nice cope

[grand mesa]

Are rising into your games too

[haughty compass]

Last match has been living in my head rent free

If I just hard swapped the healer a couple times

[clear pulsar]

It's the 3-3 0cr spam that irks me now

[haughty compass]

I think I go 4-2 there

[grand mesa]

That was my tweet to them not that they read it

Fixing leavers is great

But before leaver meta

3-3 +0 was miserable

And I’ve been saying this since prepatch when I noticed it

[haughty compass]

A little mmr bunp would be nice at 3-3

[young condor]

i thought the logic being used is

if you go 3-3

[grand mesa]

@young condor this is script cdew uses

[young condor]

you're where you deserve to be

wow how does cdew use that

and i agree going 3-3 feels awful

[grand mesa]

On paper. The idea of 3-3 +0 makes sense. You tie. Why should you win or lose rating

[young condor]

its just i think its a feature not a bug

[haughty compass]

The problem is, if you’re a healer and you have a dps who is 0-6

[grand mesa]

I think in practice

[haughty compass]

You cant really carry that dps without some insane gameplay or luck

[clear pulsar]

When games are actually close and healers go 3-3 but the dps are like 4-2 and 2-4

[grand mesa]

Healers see an EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF 3-3, with very little agency to change outcome

[clear pulsar]

Then it's fine

I dont mind it

But when it's

[young condor]

so basically you're arguing 3-3 when someone is 0-6

or 0-5

[clear pulsar]

1 DPS 6-0 that you can do nothing about cuz they're just outclassing everything

[grand mesa]

Like you have to over perform and steal a round when a dps is going 6-0

[clear pulsar]

Or the other way around

[young condor]

should result in a mmr change?

[clear pulsar]

Is a huge waste of time

[young condor]

yeah i agree for that

[haughty compass]

Ok destro shuffle time wish me luck, Q pop

[clear pulsar]

Then you overperform and carry the 0-5 DPS to their lone win

[young condor]

but i dont think this is blizzards concern atm

[clear pulsar]

And gian 10 rating

After 2h of 3-3 games

[young condor]

i wanna level a lock and play destro

looks so fun

the portal

[grand mesa]

Yeah sterge just rage quit stream

He spent 4 hours going largely 3-3 +0

Or close

[clear pulsar]

I've been hovering 2.3k for a couple days now

[grand mesa]

Then had a 2-4 -60

[clear pulsar]

Since I climbed back out of the 2k tank

[grand mesa]

And just logged

[clear pulsar]

Yeah I feel his pain so hard

It's rough

[grand mesa]

That’s why I think it’s lobby luck

[forest kite]

just win 4head

now you sound like league players

[grand mesa]

I gained +120 from 2 games cause I matched against 2 dinguses who miraculously didn’t leave

[clear pulsar]

I just lost 40 cr cuz actionbar taint

[grand mesa]

It could have easily been 3-3 hell

[clear pulsar]

After just reloading at the start of the round

[forest kite]

"it's lobby luck that I'm hard stuck 1500 games in silver"

[grand mesa]

It absolutely is lobby luck to a degree

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

Cause if you’re largely going 3-3. What you’re hoping for is to land in lobby where you’re the lower MMR healer

Then a 3-3 might actually get you decent points

It could easily swing the other way and the healer is 100 MMR under you

And now you have to 4-2 or higher to net 0

Yeah at the end of the day for sure just play better and win

[forest kite]

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

But I think it’s disingenuous to suggest that the system isn’t flawed or unfun for healers, and shockingly many aren’t queueing

[stray sigil]

thats a tarted take

[grand mesa]

Fuji give Pykan his MMR back

[forest kite]

no one is suggesting that puzzle

[stray sigil]

im still just as qualified to comment on a healer

just cuz i personally dont olay doesn’t invalidate what i say lmfao

[haughty compass]

i aint blaming fuji

lol

[young condor]

i don't understand why they don't do an mmr reset if blizzard wants to make up for the mmr abusers

[grand mesa]

Did u tell him to go full passive play like an rdru 🤣

[young condor]

an early season reset

[grand mesa]

I doubt they’ll do that

[young condor]

yeah it'd suck for some but it evens the playing field

[grand mesa]

They’ll piss off too many people

[stray sigil]

i didnt even give him advice lmfao

[grand mesa]

It’s week 4. The playing field will even out

There’s like 5 months left

[young condor]

yeah and alot of those people potentially abused the mmr system

wait

[stray sigil]

it was the we argued about proactivty of healers

[young condor]

a wow season goes for 6 months?

[grand mesa]

Leaver abusers will lose rating

[stray sigil]

i gabe him 0 advice

[grand mesa]

And go back to where they probably belong

[forest kite]

reset lmao condiment take

[young condor]

with no resets?

[grand mesa]

Yup

Btw if ur not good at arena like me

U like long seasons

With lots of inflation

🤣

We hate short seasons

[sly marsh]

indeed

[young condor]

i was thinking itd be like valorant

with length that is

[grand mesa]

So a season at the end of the day is tied to the raid tier

And new raid release

[young condor]

yeah alright i didnt realise they went for that long

[grand mesa]

Ya it can get kinda stale towards the end but I like it. Tbh long tier with nice lulls is my favorite time of wow. The grind is all done and I just login to do what I want

[young condor]

a mmr reset to w.e placements is would be a massive fuck you to the people who abused the system

i just imagine queues will be way longer towards end of season

[grand mesa]

It’s a bigger fuck you to the people who have been playing

[young condor]

probably better quality though

[grand mesa]

Extreme Leaver abusers make a fraction of legitimate players

[young condor]

it could also set a precedent

[forest kite]

no

[young condor]

if anything in the future is like that

[forest kite]

you quickly deter people from queueing period

not just the abusers

[grand mesa]

You ban/rollback/remove achieves for the extreme outliers cause that’s less of a headache

Then the massive backlash

[forest kite]

this is giga condimented take

[haughty compass]

frost mage hasnt won a rogund

[grand mesa]

Of resetting the entire playerbase

[haughty compass]

i tell him to stay in my line we win

im destro

whats he do?

ice block in starting room

[young condor]

i'd be for the rollback aswell i just figured they dont have the resources

to figure out who abused the system

[grand mesa]

They have datas# for everything. It’s just a matter of how heavy handed they want to be

[forest kite]

yeah but you also 30 seconds ago didn't know how long a season was

so

[young condor]

lol you can call it a condiment take all you want, if there was such a flaw in the season at the start its what i think should be done

and what does that matter?

[grand mesa]

Like they banned people who abused killing rares with no daily loot lockout over and over again

That’s probably harder to track then leaving arena matches consistently

[forest kite]

so punish everyone because of a few bad apples?

that's a take

[young condor]

also with a mmr reset, good players would be happy because now they don't have to play w people inflated

[haughty compass]

5-1 destro

so fun

[grand mesa]

But

It’s self correcting

[stray sigil]

good players are already high cr

[grand mesa]

The inflated people will drop

[stray sigil]

they dont give a fuck

[grand mesa]

Because they actually have to take CR MMR hits now

That’s why I think a reset is pointless

[young condor]

alright who here can honestly say that they would quit shuffle if there was an mmr reset

6 month season

quit because not even 20% into the season mmr got reset because the system was flawed

[grand mesa]

The heavily inflated leave abusers are not staying at the rating they are at

I won’t. But Joe the plumber who spent what little time he has after work slowly working his way towards elite mog and sitting in 40 minute dps queues

He will

[haughty compass]

I mean considering the 2 best dps just got gutted

Mmr gonna change for sure lol

[young condor]

i guess i'd need stats on how many leavers got mmr boosted

[clear pulsar]

Joe the plumber

Love that guy

[young condor]

so will joe the plumber quit?

[stray sigil]

it would def have a negative effect

[grand mesa]

Nothing pisses off wow players more than royally shitting on their time spent

[young condor]

im not arguing about it having a negative effect

[stray sigil]

its a massive waste if my rime

[young condor]

but im saying ultimately it doesnt matter

[stray sigil]

to have to redol it

[young condor]

because people are addicted

[stray sigil]

when i did it legit already

[young condor]

what are they gonna do about it?

[forest kite]

man why the fuck would you reset

when it's gonna fix itself

[stray sigil]

ur asking ppl that play dos

dps

to grind it all teh way back

sitting 2h qs again

[edgy shale]

why r u awake

[stray sigil]

lol

[young condor]

not dps exclusive

[grand mesa]

After sitting in 30-2hour queues

[young condor]

its 2 20 pm atm

[grand mesa]

That’s so fried

For a situation that will resolve itself anyway

[haughty compass]

It’s a stupid idea.

Lol

[stray sigil]

i sat prov douvle the q timws than i actually played shuffle

[grand mesa]

The DH or SPR that’s been leaving his way to 2.7 in shuffle

[stray sigil]

im nit doing it again

[grand mesa]

Will not be 2.7 after a few weeks

Guarantee

[young condor]

lol you say you're not doing it again?

you're tleling me if there was a mmr reset

you' d quit shuffle

[forest kite]

man

why

[stray sigil]

i dont even know why u want it qhat do u gain from ir

[forest kite]

would you reset

if the problem

[haughty compass]

Why do they need an Mmr reset?

[forest kite]

is gonna fix itself

anyways

[stray sigil]

i already did quit shuffle

[forest kite]

answer the question

[stray sigil]

got what i wanted dipped

[young condor]

i dont believe it will self correct

[stray sigil]

not doing it again

[grand mesa]

Why don’t you think it’ll self correct

Explain to me

[edgy shale]

how tf

[young condor]

because unless the lobby is literally 6 boosters

[edgy shale]

r u typing so fast

[haughty compass]

It takes like 2 good lobbies in a row to get a nice mmr streak going

[young condor]

chances are they are playing with some good people who deserve to be there right

[stray sigil]

dont get ur booster point and why thats relevant

[forest kite]

what makes you think it wouldn't be self correcting, what?

[young condor]

so the higher quality of players means there would likely be less stomps

[fair mirage]

Going 6-0 takes you from 1500 to 2000 mmr so it's quite possible for smebody to luck their way into the 2000-2200ish range.

[young condor]

it will slowly self correct

[grand mesa]

I am honestly not following this logic at all

[forest kite]

not if you got a rat

[young condor]

given the amount of times

[stray sigil]

theres always going to be stomps

[fair mirage]

Although it is fairly quick to adjust.

[forest kite]

the rat goes 0-6

[young condor]

have you played league?

[stray sigil]

its the nature of that mode

[forest kite]

everyone else goes something else

[fair mirage]

Yeah, sometimes it's just one guy having an awful lobby.

[forest kite]

do you not know how shuffle works?

[young condor]

its like you can take a bronze player and put them in a higher lobby and they may win it

[forest kite]

@young condor

[young condor]

it'd be 3-3

in my example

[clear pulsar]

I go 3-3 in a 2.4 lobby

Now I'm in a 2050 lobby

?????????????????

[haughty compass]

https://tenor.com/view/james-franco-wait-what-wut-wtf-nani-gif-25479769

[grand mesa]

Better 6-0 or it’s back to hell for you

[stray sigil]

ok so bow its about boosters

[sly marsh]

that is one high quality gif

It feels like he’s in the room with me

[stray sigil]

and not restting the ladders cuz of leavers

[young condor]

i'm basically saying ppl that got boosted by mmr abuse

[stray sigil]

im confusion

[young condor]

wont fall quickly

[fair mirage]

you're going to mordor

[grand mesa]

What’s the healer MMR

[young condor]

because they are in better lobbies

[sly marsh]

1 way ticket to mordor

[young condor]

with better players

[fair mirage]

they're taking your mmr to isengard

[stray sigil]

itll even out lol

[grand mesa]

I don’t think you understand that a guy out of his league in a lobby

[sly marsh]

Won’t better players just stomp the less good players

[grand mesa]

Will go 0-6 or 1-5

[young condor]

slowly a will

[stray sigil]

they lose lobbies too

[grand mesa]

Doesn’t matter

[young condor]

it will*

[sly marsh]

I get crushed when I get placed too high on alts

[young condor]

i guess we'll see but thats why i think that it won't self correct quickly or be much of an impact

[grand mesa]

I saw it all the time when you see the guy who obviously won his first two placements convincingly

[sly marsh]

Better players destroy middling players

Yeah exactly puzzle

[grand mesa]

Then landed in a lobby where they didn’t belong

[stray sigil]

i rhink classes carrying players to a certain mmr is a better point than ur weird leave abuse gives infinite mmr to bad take

[grand mesa]

But even that evens out

Dh and spr wil drop some

[forest kite]

Bari, what's your favorite crayon flavor?

[grand mesa]

After nerfs

[young condor]

i'll eat w.e you do ❤️

hey if you guys are convinced that people that don't belong will fall, it will be a very slow climb for you aswell

[stray sigil]

even with this leaver abuse thing

i promise u

[grand mesa]

Why would it a slow climb for me

[stray sigil]

thats not why ur not climbing

[grand mesa]

Any slower than before

[young condor]

because that person will lose on your side

[grand mesa]

Before people were leaving my wins and I was eating my losses

[haughty compass]

My slow climb is because I am not good ok

[young condor]

the match cr gain

[grand mesa]

Now I get to keep my wins

[young condor]

assuming someone always goes 0-6

[sly marsh]

[young condor]

2 are essentially losses

[forest kite]

no slower of a climb then if you reset and put me in lobbies with crayon eaters

[stray sigil]

u can absolutely still win with a bad

not good odds but u can

[young condor]

if you vs crayon eaters

should be easy wins right

so good players will climb

if there were an mmr reset

and those crayon eaters wont be inflated in lobbies

[stray sigil]

good players are climbing alreadt

[sly marsh]

yeah but what necessitates a reset

[grand mesa]

Do you personally feel like this inflated MMR Shit is what’s keeping you down or something

[clear pulsar]

3-3 3-3 3-3 3-3 3-3 3-3

[young condor]

the fact that people are higher than they belong

[grand mesa]

I’m trying to figure out why u want a reset so much

[sly marsh]

welcome to purgatory face

[stray sigil]

u seem to be under the impression a reset would benefit you

[grand mesa]

When it hurts way more than it helps

[fair mirage]

go posi and other healer dodges

[grand mesa]

For a problem that’ll fix itself

[stray sigil]

because your gatekept or something?

[young condor]

no i stopped coz of queues

[fair mirage]

had game the other day where one healer was asking if he should throw a round so other healer doesn't leave

[stray sigil]

so u wouldnt be playing anyways

[young condor]

its because of a warr friend that abused the system

who ik is bad

[forest kite]

ok?

[clear pulsar]

I was 3-1 then the mage died without blocking against full cds when I don't have trinket twice in a row

[fair mirage]

i haven't queued much cos so many dodges just makes it take forever

[young condor]

thats why i personally want a reset, so id be happy with all ppl

who dodged games

to fix mmr

[fair mirage]

ya doubtful resets unless maybe they dodged like 50 times or something insane

[grand mesa]

Guess what happens to that guy. He’ll drop

[fair mirage]

anybody with boosted mmr will tank down later

unless they sit and then who cares

[young condor]

to have this applied to, but i figured thats harder than an overall reset

[grand mesa]

Yeah he can sit his rating and never play shuffle again for 6 months

[young condor]

yeah if they sit that doesnt matter

[haughty compass]

Catalyst this week? Or next right

[grand mesa]

Next

[haughty compass]

😔

Lots of DH rerolling to unholy dk soon

[young condor]

i wonder how other games handle mmr abuse

[forest kite]

at this point

i just think

[stray sigil]

u cant stop wintrading and shit without bans

[forest kite]

you're trolling us

[stray sigil]

in league

[forest kite]

repeating the same thing over and over again

[stray sigil]

they wont reset the ladder

bcuz ppl wintraded

and some bystanders

got something out of it

u just ban the wintraders

snd they will lose what they gained

over time

[fair mirage]

bro watch end of season here be like dqs for half the 3s ladder co sthey threw shuffle games for their buddies

[young condor]

i doubt any bans will be passed out

[forest kite]

they already have been

[stray sigil]

there will be band lol

[young condor]

where?

[stray sigil]

band

for the super abusers

[grand mesa]

I would be surprised if there were even 5% of actives players who hard abused so much that it’s actionable by blizzard

[fair mirage]

watching cloud just fall off the leaderboard last season

[grand mesa]

Resetting for the other 95%

[young condor]

i mean prior to this

[grand mesa]

Kinda fried

[stray sigil]

man fuk cloud

psycho bich

[forest kite]

bari bari being held down by all these abusers

[young condor]

googling ban for solo shuffle didnt return anything, i still dont see the issue w a reset

[forest kite]

then you're not reading

[fair mirage]

I mean they said that in the future they'd be reviewing and potentially banning heavy leavers.

[young condor]

will sub numbers decrease if they implemented this?

[forest kite]

huh

alright alex jones

time to catch the 🇧 🔒

[young condor]

if they mmr reset would they lose subs?

[forest kite]

no one could know that.

like what

[young condor]

itd be a waste of a month, sure. it would also be the most fair option

because everyone is reset

[fair mirage]

They're not going to wipe mmr. They don't even remove the mogs when they yoink glad drakes.

[forest kite]

it'd be a waste of the most played month

Your problem is

you're viewing

every month

the same

[grand mesa]

You will 100% lose some players for shitting on their month spent grinding for a problem that’ll fix itself

Idk why I keep having to repeat this

[forest kite]

you keep saying the same shit over and over again bari

we get it

you're a psycho

[grand mesa]

And also

[young condor]

how would you know

[forest kite]

and thing an mmr reset is a good thing

stfu and move on

mate

[young condor]

if its fixed though

[grand mesa]

“They’re addicted anyway”

Is a horrible way

To make shitty decisions

In fact blizzard had a come to Jesus moment in SL

Because they took players for granted

[young condor]

what happened in sl?

[grand mesa]

9.1

They lost a huge chunk of their player base

[forest kite]

i'm genuinely losing brain cells from this conversation man

[tiny oar]

what a nightmare

[young condor]

with torghast / lego grinds

alright well theres no mmo substitute for wow pvp

[fair mirage]

SL and covenants was them listening to the 50 year olds that say they want choice to matter.

Kind of like how they fell for the "we love av turtles" meme that resulted in Ashran.

[young condor]

if there was a good substitute it'd be risky to do an mmr reset