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stray sigil
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are 16s easy

grand mesa
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You need 2.4 to proc concentrated?

clear pulsar
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Yes lol

grand mesa
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I wasn’t sure

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If it was duelist or elite

viscid remnant
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Larryait

clear pulsar
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It's a little stupid

stray sigil
haughty compass
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Dev buffs next week I will 2.4 no cap

stray sigil
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?

grand mesa
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That’s actually fried

viscid remnant
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I think im touching grass today

stray sigil
viscid remnant
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Thoughts?

clear pulsar
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Bad ide

haughty compass
clear pulsar
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There are bugs and stuff

stray sigil
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is there even grass

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in isreal

grand mesa
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They’re letting u press renewing blaze and obsidian scale in stun @haughty compass ?

stray sigil
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i thought was all desert

stray sigil
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man i was gonna say something

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but its too early

grand mesa
stray sigil
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to demolish pylons mental

haughty compass
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I’m bad I know idc

grand mesa
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Say it

haughty compass
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Say it

viscid remnant
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Pylonka

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Dont worry

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I will q 3x3

stray sigil
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KEKEW

grand mesa
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I only Shit on people I like. It’s a toxic trait I know

haughty compass
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lol lol

grand mesa
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But it also means I care

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🤣

haughty compass
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I trust puzzles hps

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Renewing blaze ruins parse

grand mesa
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Brother in my head I was screaming

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

haughty compass
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I know, I was just so excited to do real 3s

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Lol

grand mesa
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I only played your first set of 3s games

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So ofc gonna be alittle rough

grand mesa
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I’m sure you’re giga now

haughty compass
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(Spoiler: I’m not)

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But improving

grand mesa
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U just need to feel dhdk on your body a few times in 3s before u start pressing

haughty compass
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It was just the last time we played, you said I used defensives too much

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Just need to get in sync that’s all

grand mesa
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YOU WERE A LOCK

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AND TRINKET PORT UNENDING DARK PACT FIRST STORMBOLT

haughty compass
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You think I understand nuance?

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And context?

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Sheesh

grand mesa
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🤣🤣🤣

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Yeah really it’s just getting used to cadence

grand mesa
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And rotating

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I think that’s why comms is good

haughty compass
grand mesa
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It’s easy to iron that shit out

haughty compass
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Yea I’m gonna only 3s on voice

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And David is a hero, very chill

grand mesa
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It’s the best way to play imo. It makes healer life easier too when I can just say this is your press

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Like it’s intentionally playing shuffle style of staring at omniCD guessing to see if they’ll press

haughty compass
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I generally am good about knowing where I messed up

grand mesa
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By not commsing

haughty compass
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And fix it

grand mesa
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David is very very chill

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Most PMA in arena tbh

haughty compass
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Yea vad liked him the best

grand mesa
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Also fits ur play schedule

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His prime time is when you guys do your early PM Shit

clear pulsar
grand mesa
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@tiny oar

lime light
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zechey was doing

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./afk

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in arena

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so i deleted him

grand mesa
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Has definitely /afk on Trevvy

lime light
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from friendlist

viscid remnant
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/afk

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Is super annoying

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Cuz u cant surrender

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So true

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And bugs ur UI

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So true

lime light
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ye

stray sigil
clear pulsar
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Sometimes in arena you just have to

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Go agane

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And agane and agane and agane and agaaaaaaaaaaane

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Like kelly clarkson

grand mesa
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I can’t believe she was only 194 greatest singer

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Traj

stray sigil
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i mean

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shes pretty bad

grand mesa
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Kelly clarkson?

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As a vocalist?

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Are u nuts

stray sigil
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american idol ppl

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are cringe

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tru or tru

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TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

grand mesa
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@edgy shale help this man

viscid remnant
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whom

stray sigil
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dw david

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ur not missing much

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she kinda fat

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and not very ood

viscid remnant
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alrdy hate her

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LES GO

stray sigil
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its true tho

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but i dont wanna get banned here again

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so i will not say why

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this year

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i will be

grand mesa
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Say why

stray sigil
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pma fuji

viscid remnant
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he wanna be orange

haughty compass
viscid remnant
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jealous of f2f

stray sigil
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icant believe face got it but not me

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but we press on

grand mesa
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Are u actually surprised

stray sigil
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that i didnt get it na

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that he did

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kinda

grand mesa
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Idk this is at the end of a day a pve TC discord about logs and sims and whatever

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He’s good with that

stray sigil
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wrong

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just so wrong

viscid remnant
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so true feji

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fejertrue

lime light
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40 min wait time

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to get a 2.4k healer vs 0.32k healer

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he feeds 0:3

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into pce it

grand mesa
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Tuesday is salvation

gleaming gate
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Wow damage is so crazy rn that I feel tranq is too risky to try channelling other than to immune something big myself. It’s not enough to keep someone else alive at all

lime light
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is tranq bugged too

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cuz arena is a raid now

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so does it heal less

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than used to

grand mesa
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U tranq to get some healing and avoid CC tbh. Or as a safe bridge between swiftmends. Or to tranq CC. It’s not an oh shit heal

stray sigil
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tranq isnt what it is in wotlk

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if u play both

gleaming gate
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My man had lifebloom, 2 rejuvs on and died in my tranq still

grand mesa
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It actually was oh shit heal in beta for a bit

broken junco
grand mesa
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First tick could crit for 86k

lime light
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ok

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is that possible

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that u get queue prio

lime light
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after someone leaves

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cuz i got instna queue

tepid spoke
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tranq is a mastery stack or to avoid all damage from abomb limb or monk

golden scaffold
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hello everyone, any good streamers/youtubers to learn balance pvp from?

gleaming gate
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That’s it yeah. Gonna have to just us as a “fuck off me” button because it’s a bloody liability as a healing CD. I didn’t have anything else in this particular case but I think a regrowth would have had a better chance to save him than tranq

grand mesa
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U live and die by your sotf regrowths and your ns

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If u ns air

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Ur gonna have a bad time

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4pc should be good tho

gleaming gate
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I’m good with NS but I think I sometimes use swiftmend when I don’t need to. Don’t need to use it and censoring ward the sec they’re off CD. Should save for damage

clear pulsar
viscid remnant
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and its extra hot for mastery stacks

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good healings

lime light
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hold up

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u need to win

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100 solo games

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above 2.4k?

grand mesa
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Yes for legend

stray sigil
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for legendy e

lime light
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like i didnt even play

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i mean

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i didnt even won that many

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its gonna

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take like

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3 weeks

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to queue for that many games

clear pulsar
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The season is gonna be like 4 or 5 months

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You have time

stray sigil
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its just play rounds not even win

clear pulsar
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Its win

stray sigil
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is it ?

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oh its win

lime light
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but i think, some lower iq forms of the healers

clear pulsar
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Win rounds tho not matches

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So you get prog for lobbies you technically lose

lime light
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thinks u can get banned

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rn for leaving

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cuz they are tanking the

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-100 for 0;6

gleaming gate
lime light
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u think so that the ssn will be that long @clear pulsar

haughty compass
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fuji farm legend wins on resto?

lime light
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i mean, for insta queue its a good idea

lime light
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but for sanity

stray sigil
lime light
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a bit fucked

viscid remnant
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should i go

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for a tight shirt

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or oversized

clear pulsar
lime light
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oversized bis

clear pulsar
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10.1 should be in like may I think

viscid remnant
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sleeper build 🥶

crystal forge
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im tired

stray sigil
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just dont b

viscid remnant
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notsure ep

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tried 2shirts

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like normal one better

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forsure

stray sigil
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oversized always bis

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i buy the oversized uniqlo t

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so good

lime light
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oversized is good, if u are not going formal

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or semi formal

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but if u do, tight is bis then

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and with a oversized u need a tight jeans

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for sure

stray sigil
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why do u need formal if ur davider

grand mesa
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What u trying to say

stray sigil
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notsureif '

young condor
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The answer was infront of me this whole t8me, trying to find a class to play and it will be boomy

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but seripusly will the 10.05 cha ges make boomy better for pvp?

grand mesa
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Godspeed

stray sigil
grand mesa
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Fuji teach me feral

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It’s what I’ve always wanted to play

haughty compass
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Ive played 200 pres shuffles this week

stray sigil
grand mesa
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U know me fuji

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I’ve always been a feral enthusiast

young condor
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is pres the dragon?

stray sigil
young condor
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Whats the healing rotation for the dragon in pvp? Its not verdant embraces from what i can tell

haughty compass
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fuck if i know

grand mesa
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Echo spiritblossom echo dream breath echo verdant. Rewind and emerald communion when shit gets bad. Beyond that no clue. There’s nuances u can do with echo but fuck if I know

lime light
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solo shuffle will die

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with this queues

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big sadger

young condor
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So with boomy is your go astral communion, incarn and spam surges hoping for starweaver procs?

haughty compass
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verdant buffs dream breath

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so u wanna echo verdant echo DB

gleaming gate
# lime light solo shuffle will die

And based on their post, blizzard seem to have decided that they need to give incentives to healers rather than actually acknowledging the root cause of why healers don’t want to play

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This patch won’t make any difference to queue times. It will just ensure more games finish

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They could give healers 1k conquest per win and it still wouldn’t bring healers into shuffle since if you play enough to get any kind of rating you’re conq capped anyway

haughty compass
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just need to provide free awareness courses for dps

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so healers dont wanna kill themselves

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when dps die while they are cc'd wiht defensives left

clear pulsar
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Its really nothign they can do much about other than redesigning the game?!

haughty compass
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gonna be honest

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I think being able to opt in our out of tank + 2 dps Qs might be a decent idea

haughty compass
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and do like, first 2 to die in those games

stray sigil
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rly dont think u can say healing has a higher skill floor nowadays idk

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pretty even

haughty compass
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if you get cc'd even slightly as a healer

clear pulsar
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I think I can

haughty compass
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and dps doesnt do anything

clear pulsar
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So eat my ass

haughty compass
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its over

clear pulsar
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ROOTED YOU OUT

stray sigil
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ur playing in a super passive meta for healer though

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like u dont do anything

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but heal

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most healers dont even participate much in cc

haughty compass
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as pres you have to

stray sigil
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uh

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u have no cc as evokker

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how do u have to

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participate in cc

haughty compass
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we have a ranged kick and sleep walk

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what are you on about

stray sigil
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ok rdru has spammable cc

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and u stil ldont see them go for cc much at all

haughty compass
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but they dont need to use it

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because they can max range

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I cant max range

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its a different style

stray sigil
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i really dont see

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ur point

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at all

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just cuz ur 25 yrd max

haughty compass
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you said its passive meta

stray sigil
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doesnt mean u have to use it

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and they dont

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ur healer is prtob more passive

haughty compass
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you dont play passive as pres, at least you shouldnt

stray sigil
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than rdru

haughty compass
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alright, im not getting baited

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later

stray sigil
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just looks like ur not

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cuz ur a bit in

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but ur def not

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proactive

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u have a problem with ppl not agreeing with u on everything pylon

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as soon as it goes the other way

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u just want to dip otu

haughty compass
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jsut not worth arguing with you personally

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lol

tiny oar
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okie VerySadCat

stray sigil
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i think ur just basing ur own experience

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in low shuffle as a general

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idk if thats relevant

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also shuffle a lot more ectic

haughty compass
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yea you're right im wrong

stray sigil
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???

grand mesa
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🤔

clear pulsar
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What trinket are people shittalking?

tepid spoke
stray sigil
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puzzlebox prob

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matt loves eating caves

haughty compass
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fuji you just say "your experience doesnt matter" rofl

tepid spoke
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Yup

haughty compass
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you're a dick lmao

tepid spoke
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I am experienced cave explorer

young condor
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okay boomy has no arena vids at all

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I think thats a bad sign

grand mesa
tepid spoke
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But unironically

tepid spoke
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You can be the most afk healer as pres out of all healers

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Infinite mana infinite througput

tepid spoke
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Hes hot ngl

stray sigil
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post nay imagine of any guy ever

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matt "hes hot"

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probably

tepid spoke
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Cap

stray sigil
tepid spoke
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Say cap rn

stray sigil
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sorry i cant

haughty compass
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cant just be passive everygame though...

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w/e im fried

grand mesa
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U def can’t be perma passive in shuffle

tepid spoke
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I win more games being perma passive

stray sigil
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depends onthe healerye

tepid spoke
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And rooting the dh

young condor
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Is mana really an issue for majority of healers?

stray sigil
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i think rdru/evokker so strong u cant do w.e the fuck u want rly

stray sigil
young condor
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I watched s friend as uhdk in 2s lose to a disc priest over course of 5 min

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50% damp

clear pulsar
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Like as a healer, a lot of your job in low level play is essentially salvaging mistakes, and just like people arent doing their damage very well and cross ccing to create pressure, you are also probably not matching your cds with theirs either, or you're spamming really inefficient heals, etc, in that sense a healer that plays poorly loses way before a DPS playing poorly loses directly.

young condor
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And his mana was like 40%?

tepid spoke
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Like as a healer, a lot of your job in low level play is essentially salvaging mistakes, and just like people arent doing their damage very well and cross ccing to create pressure, you are also probably not matching your cds with theirs either, or you're spamming really inefficient heals, etc, in that sense a healer that plays poorly loses way before a DPS playing poorly loses directly.

clear pulsar
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I guess my point is just that it's very easy to point out that you lost the game cuz a healer did bad shit

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Matt pls

stray sigil
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Like as a healer, a lot of your job in low level play is essentially salvaging mistakes, and just like people arent doing their damage very well and cross ccing to create pressure, you are also probably not matching your cds with theirs either, or you're spamming really inefficient heals, etc, in that sense a healer that plays poorly loses way before a DPS playing poorly loses directly.

haughty compass
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yea idk man, rooting dk pets or demo pets, kicking spells, using FB purge, dipping in for a sleep walk during our go

stray sigil
clear pulsar
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im losing it im losing it im losing it im losing it im losing it im losing it im losing it im losing it im losing it im losing it im losing it im losing it im losing it im losing it im losing it im losing it im losing it im losing it im losing it im losing it im losing it im losing it im losing it im losing it im losing it im losing it v

haughty compass
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I did that 2200 mmr and 1500 mmr

stray sigil
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Like as a healer, a lot of your job in low level play is essentially salvaging mistakes, and just like people arent doing their damage very well and cross ccing to create pressure, you are also probably not matching your cds with theirs either, or you're spamming really inefficient heals, etc, in that sense a healer that plays poorly loses way before a DPS playing poorly loses directly.

tepid spoke
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Like as a healer, a lot of your job in low level play is essentially salvaging mistakes, and just like people arent doing their damage very well and cross ccing to create pressure, you are also probably not matching your cds with theirs either, or you're spamming really inefficient heals, etc, in that sense a healer that plays poorly loses way before a DPS playing poorly loses directly.

grand mesa
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Like as a healer, a lot of your job in low level play is essentially salvaging mistakes, and just like people arent doing their damage very well and cross ccing to create pressure, you are also probably not matching your cds with theirs either, or you're spamming really inefficient heals, etc, in that sense a healer that plays poorly loses way before a DPS playing poorly loses directly.

haughty compass
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hate it here

clear pulsar
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All of you

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Are blue guy

grand mesa
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This is why

clear pulsar
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Hundop

grand mesa
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I type the way I do

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And never in complete

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Sentences

stray sigil
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brought it upon urself

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u dont type an essay

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and not expect that

grand mesa
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I didn’t even read it

clear pulsar
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It was 3 sentences

grand mesa
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I just saw it was copypasta fuel

clear pulsar
stray sigil
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i thought it was zechey

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and his ai bot

stray sigil
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$report

last owlBOT
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This incident has been reported to the proper authorities. Thank you for your time.

grand mesa
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I mean

stray sigil
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face is sus

grand mesa
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I told face he probably swings from trees to get to school

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In Brazil

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It’s fair game

stray sigil
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1 whole day of being orange and hes racist already

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smfh

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power got to him

clear pulsar
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Which is way off like

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Tarzan isn't in south america

grand mesa
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I just imagine when u go to bed u sleep in a hammock in a tree

clear pulsar
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Our monkeys dont swing from trees like that

grand mesa
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Idk bro

clear pulsar
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They more so just

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Drop down and steal your can of soda

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Right from under your nose

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The little rattas

tepid spoke
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Idk brazilians are hot and muscular and got big koks

stray sigil
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but

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matt

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face is 4'5

clear pulsar
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HI

stray sigil
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wrong

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def not u

clear pulsar
stray sigil
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u are the exception

clear pulsar
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Gahdamn

stray sigil
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idk u tell me

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how do u

grand mesa
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Benjamin button

tepid spoke
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Benjamin bottom

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Thats a gay porn movie

grand mesa
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Jfc Matt

tepid spoke
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Its true

hollow condor
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ok capping on alt spec

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is bis

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true or true

grand mesa
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Yes

tardy hare
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Yes

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Farming legend wins on alt spec

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More bis

stray sigil
obtuse ice
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it's me

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Did pykan

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talked

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bad

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about

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Venthyr feral

haughty compass
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No, he made Venthyr feral not necro feral

obtuse ice
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ofc

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Venthyr feral is the way

hollow condor
obtuse ice
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How do u drink tea with tobbins otherwise ?

stray sigil
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dw now i am perma venthyr on feral

stray sigil
haughty compass
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Gotta get those reps

obtuse ice
stray sigil
young condor
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Is this bursty high paced gsmeplay what is expected for wow pvp from.now on?

clear pulsar
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Been this way or more for a few years

stray sigil
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will get slower with more gear later in expac

young condor
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Csn you reliably say you trade 1 defensive for 1 offensive cd? (Not immunities)

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Because frankly this is ridiculous

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Ik for a fact bfa waant like this

stray sigil
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u prob dont want to tank ppls cd yes

young condor
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I played a bit of slands s1 and the damage there was insane

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Convoke, spear and echoing reprimand were the main culprits

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But as this season progresses it feels like people are hitting nearly as hard

tepid spoke
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Hey

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You know what time is it

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Fuji

stray sigil
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FUK POD

tepid spoke
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FUK POD

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Thyme will ban us

ember dock
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@tepid spoke pass me a omnicd profile plzzz

stray sigil
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cuz they need to tune shit etc.

young condor
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also ik you donr want to tank ppls cds, buf im saying i dont think 1 defensive for 1 offensive is really happening

stray sigil
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not gonna change drastically

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but will cahnge a bit

young condor
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The burst is too high you need more than 1 defensive for somethings

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I guess its not really trading 1 defensive for 1 offensive though

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Because they are using more than 1 offe sive

clear pulsar
young condor
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But yeah uhdk have really crazy damage it seems, arms warriors, eoe shammies, ret pallies, mm hunters, demolocks

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Those are main offenders

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Dying in 1 global is just as bad

tepid spoke
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MARRY ME JULIET YOULL NEVER HAVE TO BE ALONE I LOVE YOU AND THATS ALL U NEED TO KNOW 😢😢

young condor
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feels like wow is also experiencing the problem league has

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Fun to play, not fun to vs

clear pulsar
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MM and ret you dont always need to trade major cds for their burst, you're maybe only reacting to the hp bars moving and not to actual cds and damage potential being used up

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They can dump half of someone's hp in 2 globals but then do piss damage for the next 20s, you dont need to ironbark and NS that

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If you are aware

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You can greed cds by kiting and ccing/stopping damage

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Like MM does a lot of damage with rapid fire, if you stop their double tap rapid fire you kill a go

young condor
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Greed cds? As in hold your own

clear pulsar
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Meld is great for that

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Yeah, not so much in shuffle cuz dampening is rly aggressive but

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If you have swiftmend and can cast a SOTF regrowth, you can heal thru a burst of damage and then they can peel the rest of the cd window sometimes

young condor
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Okay warrs is my least fav class to vs always has been but i still think damage is too high atm and there arent fsir trade offs for classes

grand mesa
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There has to be gaps

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Or else nothing dies

young condor
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Wym gaps?

grand mesa
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Foxy frequently makes a call in his r1 pushes

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“We don’t have any buttons. We have to outplay this go”

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That’s kiting that’s CC

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To mitigate damage

clear pulsar
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The game cant be designed for you to be perfectly matching defensives to stop every burst

ember dock
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@tepid spoke

clear pulsar
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Cuz the match has to end

tepid spoke
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Romeo save me ive been feeling so alone i keep waiting for you but you never come

clear pulsar
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And it ends in a kill

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Imagine never cumming

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Man

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Romeo is a sussy fuck or what

tepid spoke
young condor
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Oh i see what you mean

tepid spoke
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Heavy squats with love story in the background

ember dock
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u defo dont skip leg day

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but

tepid spoke
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Bad genetics

clear pulsar
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I work out to taylor swift too

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Legendarry

stray sigil
tepid spoke
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BUT U WERE EVERYTHING TO ME I WAS BEGGIN YOU PLS DONT GOOOO

young condor
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alright i personally dont like how pvp seems to be headed for dragonflight. I get that things need to die but i also think that all your offensives shouldnt 1 shot someone

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Oh and execute mechanics are so shitty to vs

grand mesa
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We have buttons that can lay on hands

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If offensive burst gets gutted healing has to also

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Like we can’t just heal everything up no

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Np

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It’s bad game design

young condor
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Is be fine with that trade off

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I mean this is just reminding me of league like i said

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2 problems is damage / mobility creep and focusing on making things fun to play w/o regarding if its fun to vs

clear pulsar
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I think you're wrong

young condor
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But they have been balancing alot

tepid spoke
clear pulsar
tepid spoke
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Also u can stop a lot of damage ursef

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Clone and roots

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Are strong

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U can negate a dh completely

grand mesa
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There’s a lot of counter play

tepid spoke
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For ghe whole match

stray sigil
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sometimes its better to go for a clone

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than to go for a heal

grand mesa
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There is actually very little where there’s like no counter play nothing u could do

young condor
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oh im not talking as a druid, i was talking in general.

stray sigil
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even if the guy is 50% hp

clear pulsar
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League over time just removed all kinds of different mechanics for the sake of making everything fun to play against

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And so each role has 10+ champions that do the same thing with different skin over it

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Garbage game true or true

tepid spoke
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Thats so true

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Its so homogenized

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All champions do the same

grand mesa
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Wow arena has its flaws but I still think it’s actually playing pretty decently right now. Now that outliers are being nerfed frequently this has been pretty interesting so far

young condor
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I mean you say all champs do the same right?

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So theres no identity

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Or identity is being blurred

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I feel thats similar w some classes in wow, i agree tho with the constant tuning it seems better

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But i oreferred bfs personally

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I oreferred bfa*

grand mesa
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Rooting a dh into a clone does way more mitigation than ironbark

clear pulsar
#

WARDENED HAHAHAHAHA

grand mesa
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?

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Man

clear pulsar
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Lucky you you were gonna get copypastad

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By fuji and puzzle

grand mesa
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I don’t agree with that actually. I think they can fix it.

I’m convinced the root of all evil is dps healing. Esp passive healing. We had years of dps healing/defensive/mobility inflation and it all came to a head in BFA where nothing would ever f’ing die. Blizzard responded by ramping the damage up to 11 and now healers feel gimped as their partners can literally 100-0 while the healer sits a 2 second DR’d stun.

Just start by taking an absolute sledgehammer to dps survivability. Walls are fine but any self heal that doesn’t require resources or globals needs to be absolutely gutted. Then stuff will definitely die easy enough so they could just chuck a damage reduction aura on all PvP. Without even touching healers you just made healers feel way more empowered.

gleaming gate
# clear pulsar Its really nothign they can do much about other than redesigning the game?!

I don’t agree with that actually. I think they can fix it.

I’m convinced the root of all evil is dps healing. Esp passive healing. We had years of dps healing/defensive/mobility inflation and it all came to a head in BFA where nothing would ever f’ing die. Blizzard responded by ramping the damage up to 11 and now healers feel gimped as their partners can literally 100-0 while the healer sits a 2 second DR’d stun.

Just start by taking an absolute sledgehammer to dps survivability. Walls are fine but any self heal that doesn’t require resources or globals needs to be absolutely gutted. Then stuff will definitely die easy enough so they could just chuck a damage reduction aura on all PvP. Without even touching healers you just made healers feel way more empowered.

young condor
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Wardened?

clear pulsar
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Healers dont feel gimped

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Only cuz shuffle has 70% dampening 3 mins in

gleaming gate
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I was just re-doing it to reference the specific comment as for some reason it didn’t work the first time

young condor
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zz i just want a middle ground, not too bursty and not too long games and remove mobility from some classes

tepid spoke
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I don’t agree with that actually. I think they can fix it.

I’m convinced the root of all evil is dps healing. Esp passive healing. We had years of dps healing/defensive/mobility inflation and it all came to a head in BFA where nothing would ever f’ing die. Blizzard responded by ramping the damage up to 11 and now healers feel gimped as their partners can literally 100-0 while the healer sits a 2 second DR’d stun.

Just start by taking an absolute sledgehammer to dps survivability. Walls are fine but any self heal that doesn’t require resources or globals needs to be absolutely gutted. Then stuff will definitely die easy enough so they could just chuck a damage reduction aura on all PvP. Without even touching healers you just made healers feel way more empowered.

tepid spoke
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I think thats what u want

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Slow pace game

clear pulsar
gleaming gate
# clear pulsar Healers dont feel gimped

Have you ready the forums/Reddit? Healers are not loving life RN and they all reference the fact that shit just dies out of nowhere and they don’t feel they can impact the game

young condor
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Yeah legit looks better from what ive seen

quasi plover
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just killed a disc priest in a 2s game before, and he came back to life with 35% hp, any ideas how that's possible?

grand mesa
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Damp is why

young condor
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Clear counters, not as bursty, gotta worry bout mana

clear pulsar
tepid spoke
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Only holy has rez

quasi plover
tepid spoke
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Disc cant rez

quasi plover
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dead for 20 seconds, back to life

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i know

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thats why im asking lol

tepid spoke
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Ancestral protection totem?

gleaming gate
quasi plover
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fury/disc 2s comp

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so nah

clear pulsar
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It is a good thing I'm not a dev

tepid spoke
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Idk then hacks

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Show details

clear pulsar
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Basing game direction off of random noise whining on forums and reddit

grand mesa
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And for what it’s worth

tepid spoke
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Show disc healing breakdown

clear pulsar
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There is always unhappy people in those platforms

gleaming gate
grand mesa
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They’re making the game more casual friendly

stray sigil
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i will only agree with reddit if reddit says to buff feral

quasi plover
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i alt f4'ed

grand mesa
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Cc reduction and the nerfing of setup comps

quasi plover
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tilted

grand mesa
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Strength of zug rn

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Very details pve

tepid spoke
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Idk then hes hacking

gleaming gate
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You need to design the game to work for both the top and the middle of the bell curve. I don’t think the current balance is working for the middle of the curve atm. At least not for healers, that’s why there aren’t any!!

young condor
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why does ret have no mobility and warrs have 4 gap closers lol, i never understood that

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I thought plate wearers are meant to be juggernaughts or something

grand mesa
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The game fundamentally doesn’t work if u design arena such that healers are having a blast. I’m sorry I’m a healer

clear pulsar
gleaming gate
grand mesa
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But a game where I’m vibing and having omega fun

tepid spoke
grand mesa
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Is probably toxic for everyone else

clear pulsar
gleaming gate
clear pulsar
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I am a legion baby but shit I'm having a blast healing right now

tepid spoke
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Ye so u have fun healing old slow paced games

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Wow is not slow pced anymore

grand mesa
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Man healers we’re bitching up a fucking storm in MOP with godcomp

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Sitting infinite cc

young condor
#

Okay so baseless conjecture lol

gleaming gate
tepid spoke
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I enjoy healing now more than ever

grand mesa
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I actually like this game play for what it’s worth

tepid spoke
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Its different tastes

grand mesa
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It’s CD trading

young condor
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Yeah its not for me i think man milker is right

stray sigil
young condor
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The aom is too high

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Apm*

grand mesa
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And again there’s very little time you have no counter play. Can trace my loss back to an overlap 2 gos ago and that’s why we lost

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Idk

gleaming gate
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My view on good healer balance is if I can free cast, shit should not be dying. It shouldn’t be one missed global between life and death. However, if I’m caught in a cc and my dps doesn’t have a wall, that should be it. They should be dead. They shouldn’t have enormous passive self healing to just tank the damage

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That’s how I remember it from early expansions, anyway

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Maybe rose tinted goggles

young condor
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That sounds great zag

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Way better than how this fast oaced style is

tepid spoke
stray sigil
tepid spoke
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Also its not like u cant do anythung about it if u run out of healing buttons u cant rely always on ur team

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As i said before u have ways to stop dam ursef

young condor
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Yeah okay i misinterpreted i assumed the comment about not missing 1 global implied the damage isnt so high

tepid spoke
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Like i owned a dh so much this morning with roots and clone

young condor
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Rather than healers have insane heals to offset it

gleaming gate
tepid spoke
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U can do the same with the dk

gleaming gate
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Not really.

grand mesa
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I think people are exaggerating how fast the damage is in terms of reacting to sudden damage no possible prior info

tepid spoke
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Ye same

young condor
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So back to my original question, this is just the new style of wow right?

tepid spoke
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Yes

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Its been like this for a couple years now tbh

grand mesa
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Tell me a damage situation that has no tell no counter play u have exactly only gcd to react or they’re dead

young condor
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Do they even comment on "future of pvp" or "what we want for pvp"

gleaming gate
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They can break one root. Advance through vortex. Grip you back. They do damage with dots, pets and coil. They have longer range on their stun I think and have the ranged blanket silence. Infinitely harder to fuck with.

tepid spoke
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U can clone them from 25y

young condor
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So a damage situation where you die in 2 global but 'no tell'?

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Bit unfair

gleaming gate
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Is that an exaggeration?

tepid spoke
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U shouldnt die in 2 Globals as rdru

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Nor should ur team

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U should always have hots

young condor
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Nah im not talking as rdru

tepid spoke
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Unless u get swapped and cheesed to a sub rogue

grand mesa
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U gotta tell me what the 100-0 was from

tepid spoke
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And ur feral druid doeant peel

young condor
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I play sv hunter and ele sham mainly, rogue dometimes

grand mesa
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Cause if a dps is sitting ww serenity

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They’re fried

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Etc

young condor
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Oh it was empowered mortal strikes i think

grand mesa
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Ironbark isn’t doing shit there

young condor
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I didnt screenshot it

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Through astral bulwark

stray sigil
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peel urself

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maderfaker bich

grand mesa
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Fuji is actually

young condor
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And yes there is a tell, but they have 4 fkn jumps and rootbreaks aswell

grand mesa
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A healers nightmare

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1200 shuffle dh or fuji

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They’re the same picture

stray sigil
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nop

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im the solution

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if everyone played like me

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games would last 1min

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if i had 2 of me on my teams

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i would win every game

young condor
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I just dont like fast paced wow, it just hit me earlier that its similar to why i quit league

gleaming gate
young condor
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arms warr can aswell

gleaming gate
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And you’ve got two dps to potentially like 500-600k damage in 3-4 seconds is not out of the question

young condor
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On rogue ive been hit for a 200k shadow word death or something close to but im pretty sure its a visual bug or a glitch eith names

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It was like 160 or 170k

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Maybe it does hit that hard but im oretty sure it was something to do w their procs

tepid spoke
stray sigil
young condor
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Ive seen instances of a hpal not using bop during burst and i stead using some heal and it didnt work

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Could argue that 1 global cost them the game

tepid spoke
wide harness
tepid spoke
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Man im juiced up

stray sigil
stray sigil
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where tf is davider

viscid remnant
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Here

stray sigil
edgy shale
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coward

stray sigil
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one day hell q with u

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or not

tepid spoke
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Fuk pod

stray sigil
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FUK POD

grand mesa
#

Holy fuck visiting my buddy

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His house

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Mansion

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He’s got 8 bedrooms 🤣

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Bigggg place

hollow condor
grand mesa
stray sigil
grand mesa
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Pve vs pvp who can pump harder

clear pulsar
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There are obviously outliers that need to be nerfed

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But like

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A lot of the 'one shots' are really 3 or 4 globals of prep

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And 2 or 3 actual shots

grand mesa
#

A lot of the outliers were nerfed too

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Tbh

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Enh shaman elemental blast and lightning bolt stuff

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WW pop was extremely gross

clear pulsar
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Essencre break getting nerfed next week etc

grand mesa
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Yeah

clear pulsar
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Really good stuff

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Active tuning

grand mesa
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They’re doing a good job

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Tbh

clear pulsar
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I love it

grand mesa
#

Actually knocking it out of the park

stray sigil
safe heart
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Buff feral frenzy by 40% imo

grand mesa
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I hope blizzard gets rewarded for efforts and they see active pvp player base go up so they feel like it’s worth doing

clear pulsar
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But I rather like the pace of the game and you just have to accept that you cant solo carry some matches cuz lucky crits are part of the game and maybe your DPS had brain fart

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It's life and I don't think it's all bad for the game, it's lidl bit exciting to get big crits so it's at least fun for someone

grand mesa
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I think there’s a skill expression when u see a dps react to something really quickly that I appreciate when I’m healing them in shuffle

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Sure it’s probably mes WA

clear pulsar
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If it happens to you it'll happen for you too

grand mesa
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But idk. I think its badass when a dps trinkets to save another dps cause they recognize the go

worn kettle
#

mastery or haste for resto druid pvp?

clear pulsar
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Yeah good awareness dps make my pp hard

grand mesa
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A lot of mastery but don’t overdo it

clear pulsar
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Everytime

grand mesa
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Don’t go dry on haste

haughty compass
grand mesa
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Had a hpal charge in to hoj me at a fucking pivotal moment

worn kettle
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@grand mesa 19% haste 8% mastery

grand mesa
#

See a rop dropped near me from downtown

clear pulsar
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When I get gripped on a intim before trap

grand mesa
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To bump him and stop it

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Shit like that

clear pulsar
#

I actually become mattiu

grand mesa
#

Love it

clear pulsar
#

For 3 seconds

grand mesa
#

Yeah

worn kettle
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@grand mesa that decent or? 19% haste 8% mastery

clear pulsar
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Sounds ok, you prob have some crit items you wanna turn to mastery at some point

grand mesa
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I think u could have more mastery. But it’s all preference around those numbers

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Some go more mastery. Some are right where ur at

clear pulsar
#

But having 421/424 items is more important than secondaries distribution

grand mesa
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U know

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Watching some of the sick plays dps do to save their healer from CC

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Makes me think I can’t play dps tbh

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Not like that

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Idk if I could have the awareness or vision to see that shit especially as melee

safe heart
#

Nah you could

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I think healers are the least the tunnel visiony players

clear pulsar
#

Just play a dps that cant save anyone

safe heart
#

I kinda love my feral for all the peeling

haughty compass
#

My rescue gameplay is about as consistent as the weather

clear pulsar
safe heart
#

Really the main thing is just stopping go's or cc'ing dmg

grand mesa
#

What is the greediest dps

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That can’t do Shit for no one else

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Besides Fuji’s feral

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Ok he’s not here

clear pulsar
#

Probably like fire/arcane mage?!

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Its only sheep

tardy hare
#

Thats a lot

worn vector
#

Don’t they also have db/nova and ring ?

tardy hare
#

Ye

safe heart
#

Mam they're really gunna start fucking over leavers in shuffle

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I deff stop queueing shuffle

tardy hare
#

Ye

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Pog

safe heart
#

Not getting banned over that

tardy hare
#

Ye dont leave

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Just win

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Nooberdog

safe heart
#

Win impossible

tardy hare
#

Nooberdog

clear pulsar
#

Weakest mental in pvp channel

safe heart
#

Shuffle too hard for me

worn vector
#

If you can’t wint, you deserve the loss fr fr no leave just git gud or find better lobby

#

That shit is partially rng anyway

haughty compass
#

Enji the biggest troll lol

safe heart
#

I always forget to find a good lobby before I press q tbh

#

My biggest problem

safe heart
#

I'm an expert

haughty compass
#

I see you

worn vector
#

I mean you win in favourable lobby and get shit on when not, it’s the spirit of shuffle

safe heart
#

Oof

worn vector
#

Cause gamers love rng amirite

safe heart
#

Yeah I love losing cuz my teammates die in the first 15s

worn vector
#

Same tbh, reverse dopamine is best

safe heart
#

We are fiending for that cortisol

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I need more leavers in my 3s games

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That would be pog

tardy hare
#

I love winning cause i kill ur teammate in first 15 sec

haughty compass
#

Big fan of the one shot

grand mesa
#

Spoken like a deva main

tardy hare
#

Imagine having an evoker on acc

haughty compass
#

Yea fr

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Weirdos

safe heart
#

How come it's my fault when my teammates die in 15s but it's also my fault when the other team doesn't die in 15s

tepid spoke
#

Once

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In all my life

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And i came

safe heart
#

i do that for puzzle on cd

tepid spoke
#

Was on a shuffle@like 2 days ago

clear pulsar
grand mesa
#

Grip intim stun MD the inbetween if they somehow get a setup for it

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Then I play with shuffle spr and I’m like

safe heart
#

they just dont have that zoomer apm like me i gues

#

sp diff

clear pulsar
#

Legendairy

#

If enji had stronger mental he'd be highest shuffler in dreamgrove

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Cuz

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I had a spr that literally

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Every single round

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Pressed human racial, emblem, VE, desperate prayer

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First stun of the game

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Like macrod together 100%

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It was pixel perfect everytime

grand mesa
#

That’s actually horrific

clear pulsar
#

2.4k spr

safe heart
#

thihk about how high your apm would be

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if you just macro'd 4-11 abilities together

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youd be sonic the hedgepog

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predicting go's in 15 different zip codes

clear pulsar
safe heart
#

some guys disperse late

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but i disperse in the starting room

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cant kill me if i pre wall

stray sigil
#

but he has fuji lvl mental

haughty compass
safe heart
#

i dont get why he would macro VE into it tho

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feel like you dont press ve unless youre free casting

hollow condor
clear pulsar
#

You schizoposted or what

stray sigil
#

he plays the best spec

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of all of us

safe heart
#

feral

stray sigil
#

u dumb fuck face

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fuk u

#

FUK FAKE

#

FACE

sly marsh
safe heart
clear pulsar
#

You are

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HAHAHAHAH fuck-face together is autoblocked

grand mesa
#

Orange privilege

sly marsh
#

1984

grand mesa
#

Fuck pod is not protected

stray sigil
#

Fuk fave

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fave

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face

surreal heron
#

3rd time's the charm

stray sigil
viscid remnant
#

Coming home in a few mins

tiny oar
#

bro.

stray sigil
#

i didnt say it

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he did

viscid remnant
#

Who asked u feji?

stray sigil
#

joe

tiny oar
viscid remnant
#

Joemama

grand mesa
#

Hi lakez Whatsup

#

Did u not afk a game mid match on Trevvy

stray sigil
tiny oar
tepid spoke
#

RATATOUILLE

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RATA

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RATATTA

#

RAT BAT

tiny oar
tiny oar
peak spire
#

is it time to queue as guardian

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I am so tilted from resto

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maybe we go do a little bit of trolling as guardian

tiny oar
#

man was wearing grieftorch IN THE ARENA

viscid remnant
#

Faded 2x2 time???

tiny oar
tiny oar
stray sigil
tiny oar
viscid remnant
#

Dont need

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Thats for noobs

grand mesa
#

Grieftorch is giga in pve

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It only makes sense that it’s giga in pvp too

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Logic is sound

grand mesa
#

That’s such a good emote

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I need it

viscid remnant
#

why q 2x2

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whjen ur family visting ?

#

sus

tropic schooner
#

smh

clear pulsar
#

If you just stop losing you will always win

peak spire
#

Solo q is just so different

viscid remnant
#

wow insane 3 step lifehack

peak spire
#

I'm struggling on 1600-2k

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Never struggled in this elo before

#

Mayb i go feral cat big fat ownage

haughty compass
#

its really too bad you cant do skirmish shuffles

stray sigil
viscid remnant
#

ok but fr now

#

any gamers ?

edgy shale
#

yes but yr a coward

stray sigil
#

pod david 2x2

viscid remnant
#

notsure who this is

peak spire
#

fuji apple

stray sigil
stray sigil
peak spire
#

im eating one rn

stray sigil
edgy shale
#

hes a coward

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who fears

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playing with sum1

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like me

grand mesa
#

David

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Think of playing with pod

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Like hyperbolic time chamber

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You are training in 300x earths gravity

edgy shale
#

my player versus player skill in the world of warcraft is greater than davider's player versus player skill in the world of warcraft?

#

haters?