#pvp

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livid wasp
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could be fun

forest kite
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The benefit of doing it at a higher level is

  1. The kills feel more impactful because the bosses haven't been nerfed 80 times
  2. you're done faster
  3. you actually get challenged
livid wasp
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it is challenging, not saying its not

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even mid way through patch

forest kite
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why do you pvp?

livid wasp
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to obtain dopamine from beating other players

safe heart
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i deff dont get the same dopamine hit from killing pve stuff

pallid coral
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that's fine

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personally nothing in pvp has hit as hard a dopamine blast as some of the boss kills i've had in the past

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not even my first glad

safe heart
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we are at an impass

pallid coral
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and i love pvp

safe heart
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usually can hardly stay tabbed in on raids

pallid coral
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but something about slamming a hard boss and getting that perfect pull is like the most perfect dopamine slam in gaming to me

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Getting my xavius rank 1 (omegalul) > beating whaaz zeepeye in 3s while they were at blizzcon

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but that's fine

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some people prefer other shit

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and that is cool

livid wasp
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like sure if youre in some rank 1 guild

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but for most people

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for most guilds*

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going for full hc clear is hard

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and youre stuck with that

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raiding for 12 hours a week not clearing much of the mythic content

pallid coral
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you're never stuck BearShrug

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idk i raided in wrath

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then took a big break until wod realistically

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played in like a world 3k guild in hfc

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used t hat to hop to world 200

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raided there for 5 years or so

livid wasp
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I was in a couple of guilds who never got past first 1-2 mythic bosses in legion

pallid coral
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then took a break and ended up in top 100

safe heart
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how do ppl have fun in a raid tho

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u dont get bored out of your mind waiting for pulls and wiping 100 times

livid wasp
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I played a bit with finnish guilds at the end of BFA and they solved that with alcohol

forest kite
pallid coral
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yeah i like playing with my guild, could be watching paint dry with them and i'd probably still enjoy it

forest kite
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i know some of y'all ain't having fun in shuffle

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on god

pallid coral
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but also it's the feeling of constantly making improvements

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like sure maybe sometimes in that 100 pull session

safe heart
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if im not winning im having 0 fun

pallid coral
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you have some wipes on pull

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but then you also have pulls where you get slightly furhter into the fight

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where you handle a mechanic better

livid wasp
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pvp having fun ratio is like 20/80

pallid coral
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where you realise there's something you were doing wrong

safe heart
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i usually join comms, headset off during raids

livid wasp
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for raiding it feels like 2/98

safe heart
pallid coral
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idk i feel like that's a route to not really being satisfied with life in general

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you gotta learn to enjoy small improvements

safe heart
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everytime ive tried raid and we wipe, im like less and less motivated to try harder tbh

livid wasp
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I bet its great with a nice and fun group but not everyone has that

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jim ->

forest kite
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find that

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what would you tell someone that only queued for solo shuffle and based all of pvp off of that experience?

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My highest dopamine hit moments pvp or pve were usually because of the people i was doing it with.

safe heart
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the coolest raid thing i ever did was win the bid on a cool item in everquest

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and like i got that item

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immediately never wanted to play again

edgy shale
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BcGAYhlYdy9RJ6ROrphOEi69vCAAAAAAIkUSTikkEJl0OAKJRikAAAAAAgiAICASikQIJ0SolkAAAAAAASA

forest kite
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BcGay

viscid remnant
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@edgy shale XD

edgy shale
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good

tiny oar
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Based

young condor
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As feral in pvp what forms do i need a bind for?

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And how do you set up binds for druids

edgy plover
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any way to show more than 3 buffs on the default raid frame? mybiggerbuffs doesnt seem to work for me

young condor
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Nah i mean when i switch forms on druid it chsnges all positions of keys

narrow crane
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Bartender4 is currently the best

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Dominos had a lot of issues (for me)

young condor
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Oh i tried using it on bartender didnt work as intended

narrow crane
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You’re not doing it right

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Because it does what you want it to do 100%

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If you’re behind your pc you can grab a screenie

young condor
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Yeah sure after this comp stomp i will try and show what i mean

tough meadow
narrow crane
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I can’t stand elvui tbh

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I prefer the regular raid frames for healing

edgy plover
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@narrow crane im confused isnt that for debuffs?

narrow crane
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And bars, unit frames, everything basically

narrow crane
edgy plover
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i want to show all my hots

narrow crane
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Open the options menu

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Yea

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Get the addon, open the options menu and read, it’s pretty obvious 😁👍

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@edgy plover 'Increase Maximum B...'

forest kite
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Increase maximum bitches

edgy plover
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ah got it

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thanks

young condor
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Did that work?

forest kite
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no

young condor
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Sec ima inv my other scc to this dc,

forest kite
half prism
narrow crane
young condor
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Okay i cant rmr email

viscid remnant
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@forest kite u are home or worker

young condor
forest kite
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i'm home

viscid remnant
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give btag ?

young condor
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So i am on boomy atm, top bar is cat, next one is bear, i cant set these binds to 1,2,3,4 etc because my boomy spells are on that already

cedar basin
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Hey guys, trying to work out how to get the most healing effectiveness out of renewal. It doesn't seem to be affected by Nurting Instinct or Natural Recovery (I guess because it's a flat percentage). Is there any advantage to shifting into bear form before using it to get more healing out of it? Or given that the % remains the same, when you shift back into cat will there be no real terms benefit for cat at all?

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I've seen that you can benefit from Ursine Vigor and Battlemasters to push this further

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So I guess the question is - Cat health 20% > Shift Bear (Ursine Vigor +20% for 4s), use Battlemasters, use Renewal > Shift Cat = what % health?

forest kite
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equals way overthinking it

narrow crane
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I guess if you're popping renewal, you should already be in bear unless they're cleaving really hard or smth? (as healer)

patent dove
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I would suppose when you need to pop renewal, you‘d also need to pop bear form so you‘d use your defensives anyway

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It‘s not like there‘s a scenario in which you would minmax any of this

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If anybody found out some kind of bug that makes renewal scale somehow that would be lit

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Like swarm affecting it or w/e

tiny oar
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@patent dove yooo

patent dove
narrow crane
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But damn, fuck me if you have time to think about all of this in this bursty meta 2.0

viscid remnant
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@tepid spoke kurwa

tiny oar
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._.

viscid remnant
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lake u think pod

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is a man of his word

tiny oar
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no

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mans a freak

viscid remnant
forest kite
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@edgy shale where's my token?

viscid remnant
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pod went to sleep

forest kite
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Fuck him

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Who fucking sleeps

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Right @tiny oar ?

tiny oar
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who needs it

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comp stomp is up

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honor>sleep

viscid remnant
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need da lake schizo energy

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lvl 3 char this week

tiny oar
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yup yup yup

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DO IT

forest kite
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yooo i forgot about comp stomp

viscid remnant
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halfway to 65

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iam in skurwiel campaign

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pain

forest kite
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i need to get my horde druid to 70 rn

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rn

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rn

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rn

livid wasp
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I dont like playing without clone

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I dont like playing cleave

livid wasp
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destro lock broken in 1v1 apparently

viscid remnant
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@tiny oar

forest kite
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rofl there's a primal storm in cobalt

tiny oar
tough meadow
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Good timing

viscid remnant
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need a sexy vixen on new year more than ev

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true or true

tiny oar
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Truee

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Based

tiny oar
forest kite
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you can't grab the powers until 70 when there's a primal storm happening at cobalt assembly

tiny oar
tough meadow
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Nice pvp content

zinc wadi
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what in pvp do u get primal chaos from

tiny oar
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Lockboxes

zinc wadi
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ah

viscid remnant
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from winning bg/arena etc

viscid remnant
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truuuuue

tough meadow
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Bro who the fuck are you

tiny oar
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Bro who the fuck are any of us tbh

viscid remnant
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bruv omnibar fiaking up my whole game

tough meadow
tiny oar
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Epic

tepid spoke
haughty compass
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David 70 NA yet?

tepid spoke
viscid remnant
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im so slow bruv

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i started like

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4 hrs ago ish

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only on 3rd zone

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braaaaah

haughty compass
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Just zippin through campaign

tiny oar
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Go go go go go go fo@viscid remnant @viscid remnant @viscid remnant @viscid remnant @viscid remnant

tiny oar
viscid remnant
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im so STUPID man

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idont have

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the fuckin

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vendor mount

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inventory perma full

viscid remnant
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what lvl u say i ened to start last zone

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monkaW

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fresh lvler ye

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i think i almsto finish 3rd zone

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and iam 67

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monkaW

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ye true

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real real

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iforgor abt that

tepid spoke
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davider KING of pve?

viscid remnant
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accept mybtag

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pig

hollow condor
tepid spoke
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ill accept ur bol

tepid spoke
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i dont see u

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online

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watafa?

viscid remnant
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iam on pigmode maybe

tepid spoke
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sussy ass maderfaker

tiny oar
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I am losing my grip on reality the dream world and the waking world are blurring together I am succumbing to the void.

tardy hare
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Man i wish this would happen to me

tepid spoke
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watafak

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wrong david

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@viscid remnant

viscid remnant
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Hes BOOMy player

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pls dont link boomy player

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in this chanal

tepid spoke
tiny oar
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I'm up for 6 more hours baby COMP STOMP BLAST

viscid remnant
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gg

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???????

tiny oar
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F

viscid remnant
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hmm

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did it just reset in america

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mby thats why

tepid spoke
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i fuckin hate when u get the pig in the first round

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because thats when they play at their worsest

viscid remnant
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dude the main city lag

tepid spoke
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shadow priest dh city

grand mesa
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Lol

haughty compass
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God the Torghast power pvp quest is clown shoes

viscid remnant
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legendary pvp chatter

haughty compass
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Lol

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Ok we cap your 2s with demo

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Let’s go

viscid remnant
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iam onl 67

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and ever since i got into the last zone

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im lagging super hard

grand mesa
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Hello

haughty compass
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Hate to see it

viscid remnant
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like before that

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it was super good

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i think the city is the source of lag

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the farther i am i have less lag

haughty compass
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Yea prob

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You’re on a high pop server

viscid remnant
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almost 68

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but gotta go shiat

hollow condor
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Just cobalt ez

viscid remnant
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Maderfaker i need campaign

hollow condor
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Do you though

viscid remnant
forest kite
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Dis maderfaker

viscid remnant
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nah bro dont need campaign

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wq and all that shiat

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useless innit

haughty compass
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Kinda

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Hit cap, get gear then finish camp

viscid remnant
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SPARK

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dontneed that

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XDD

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man ihate these chromiesome quests fuk

hollow condor
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I mean can do it later but yeah

thick minnow
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feel like if they keep wanting to put healers into peoples matches where theyre sub 1k mmr, they should get 100 mmr for their troubles

viscid remnant
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wdymmmmmmm

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maderfaker

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whats the diff between

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doing it while lvling

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and not

haughty compass
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4-1 and had a leaver

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Kinda starting to hate shuffle lol

grand mesa
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Lol ya

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I think the closer you are to 2.4 the more people care and will leave to save MMR

tardy hare
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I wish people would leave my games

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That'd atleast mean i get to play the game

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🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂

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Eu queues

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Hehe xd

grand mesa
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Still broken ?

haughty compass
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My mmr dropped a little so I got decent Qs

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Now back up there, it’s trash and leavers

pure ginkgo
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what build are yall rdrus running in 2s?

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PotP?

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+5 yd range?

grand mesa
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I feel like the 2k-2.1k rating I never had leavers

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Now 2.3+ MMR it’s like 50-50 lmao

viscid remnant
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puzzy 2.4 soon ?

grand mesa
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Me? Meh idk

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Depends on luck of lobby like everything else

viscid remnant
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yes wdym

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bigdam

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ye ofc

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feeder lobby = reeee

grand mesa
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Can I get disc priest 4 lobbies in a row where I’m lowest MMR?

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Then yes easy 2.4

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🤣

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but im feeling hpalfeed

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today

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@fair mirage how much is an 1800 boost rn gold wise roughly

viscid remnant
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what are u playing caster or melee

grand mesa
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no i'm just curious about how much gold it is because i'm doing it for my pve friend

viscid remnant
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no i mean on pala

grand mesa
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ohhhh

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i would have to learn how to play melee right

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it's the only real way to play

viscid remnant
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i think with mmo mouse melee wings is good

grand mesa
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even if caster is comfier

viscid remnant
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u bind judge 123 and wog 123

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kindainsane ithink

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melee annoying cuz u need to swap targets

grand mesa
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i need to adjust my plater some

grand mesa
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i don't like how other nameplates cover over the players nameplates

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can't see what number they are sometimes

grand mesa
clear pulsar
viscid remnant
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lontar getting fiarmed by feral in shuffle

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op spec confirmed ?

clear pulsar
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I drop the barkskin upgrades to pick up renewal and hotw

haughty compass
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Then I int and have to climb then I play well lol

viscid remnant
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the BIG question is

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do i gear then lvl

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or lvl 2 and gear 2

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u get me

haughty compass
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I will game with you on demo ez

viscid remnant
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Forsure be participating in minuscule tomfoolery

haughty compass
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I’m like 17-2 with a mw who is a pepega pve bro

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A few comp stomp you’ll be fully geared up

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So maybe level both? Idk

pure ginkgo
viscid remnant
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ye kinda need to get them up fast

pure ginkgo
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dropping 20% extra healing in frenzy/bark for 3s on rejuv seems dumb

haughty compass
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Campaign the big grind then you can just cobalt

viscid remnant
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LETS GO BABY FULL GLYHPIESTRO

clear pulsar
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You also asked for 2s

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Now you talk 3s

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I am dumb

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Didnt read proper

grand mesa
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what dps are u going david

clear pulsar
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Are you losing 2s games cuz you get swapped to and cant recover?

viscid remnant
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warlock ithink

clear pulsar
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Just think in terms of how you win or lose games ye? If you dont throw you are never ever in danger of dying in 2s.

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But you very well might go oom or your hots drop on somebody while you sit cc

pure ginkgo
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you get WG hot from overgrowth even when you don't have it talented

thick minnow
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man playing thorns into fury/dh, does nothing. so sadge 😦 used to be DONT HIT TARGET. Now it's wtf was that? i dunno

hollow condor
viscid remnant
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need to know

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what i do in this

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cobat shiat

hollow condor
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Tag mobs let everyone else kill

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Collect exp

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WM off for quicker leveling

viscid remnant
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its on maderfaker

hollow condor
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You can tag cross faction with WM OFF

viscid remnant
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20% xp doe

hollow condor
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Not worth imo when it’s not faction tagged

viscid remnant
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so far going well

hollow condor
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Unless you get on a good layer. People there griefing levelers

grand mesa
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fury fucks themselves on throsn for sure

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not sure about DH

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cause they all have soulrending now too so they just leech it lol

haughty compass
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Enji knows about hat

viscid remnant
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BRUHHH icant dig its over

grand mesa
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LMAO

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level 5 dragonscale rep is piss

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ez

clear pulsar
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You can dig

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Oh

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On NA

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RIP

viscid remnant
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maderfaker bich

hollow condor
viscid remnant
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sparker

hollow condor
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Just do WQ and they reset tomorrow

viscid remnant
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BRUH THE COBALT JUICE

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its so fast

grand mesa
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Yes sir

safe heart
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The groups always break up so fast when I try

hollow condor
viscid remnant
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LETS FUKIN GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

grand mesa
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Ez

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Now what

viscid remnant
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ingest nutrients

grand mesa
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U comp stomp or turn around and cobalt level next

haughty compass
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10min average healer Q too?

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🥲

grand mesa
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It’s not actually 10

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Will pop pretty insta to 3 min depending on how high u are

viscid remnant
haughty compass
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uh o im 2-0

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here comes the leaver

grand mesa
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4-0 is when I get worried

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I think u just throw last 2 🤣

haughty compass
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kind of a good idea

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lol

grand mesa
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Take the 4-2 and give healer pity points is 0 so he doesn’t leave lol

tiny oar
viscid remnant
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hmmmmmmm

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i bother with the piss green gear

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or just comp stomp it up

haughty compass
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4-0 atm :>

grand mesa
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What will you choose 🤔

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Personally I can’t throwing so id go for the 6-0 and risk the leave lmao

haughty compass
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bro

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i lterally

viscid remnant
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FIARM THEM PYLON

haughty compass
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didnt do anything

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and he lost

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LOL

grand mesa
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ESTABLISH DOMINANCE

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assert

viscid remnant
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compstomp while eating legendary or not

grand mesa
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Legendary

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Man maybe I do level something up

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I’m pretty done for the week

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Capped everything I think. Maybe Hotpuzz needs a few games

haughty compass
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ok went 5-1

viscid remnant
haughty compass
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60 rating

viscid remnant
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paler cap ?

haughty compass
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we take those

grand mesa
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I can investigate life in deep Mordor

tepid spoke
viscid remnant
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how do these skurwiel bots press shadowmend

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?

grand mesa
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Lmao

zinc wadi
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uhhhhhhhhhh

grand mesa
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You got too many points in 1 match and skipped a rank and it bugs out I think

zinc wadi
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lmao

grand mesa
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@stray sigil

zinc wadi
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suffering from success

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I guess I just put in a ticket

grand mesa
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I happened to fuji I forget what resolved it for him

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Hitting rival 2 or duelist maybe kinda fixes it?

clear pulsar
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No point throwing 6th tho

viscid remnant
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can leave mid 6th

grand mesa
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I’ve seen lakez she’s pretty fast with the /afk

livid wasp
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everyone just quing shuffle not caring

viscid remnant
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chat full of chads

livid wasp
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I know

grand mesa
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Just don’t care zechey

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Or have a second druid tbh

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So if u get ladder anxiety or whatever send it on dumb alt

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This is the week for an alt

young condor
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Can you dps through thorns or is it a pretty big deterrant?

grand mesa
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It fucks up feral rogues and fury imo

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It’s healable early. But once damp really kicks in it’s p bad to punch thru it imo

rancid laurel
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warrior swapped, i used overgrowth, barkskin, and bear formed before he storm bolted me and used 3 globals. Should i have trinket/tranq'd here? Are we trading all of our cd's for stormbolt now?

young condor
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Thats disgusting

clear pulsar
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Ok bro there are

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4 cds used here

young condor
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That he killed i a 2.5s window

clear pulsar
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Not 'stormbolt'

rancid laurel
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yeah he was in avatar and cs

clear pulsar
young condor
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Storm bolt is 5s?

safe heart
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Just trinket tranq probably
Save the rest

rancid laurel
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i died tho

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my dps is suggesting i use trinket/tranq

grand mesa
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Avatar + spear

clear pulsar
grand mesa
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I’d trinket tranq that if I wasn’t hot prepped on myself and pre neared the storm bolt

rancid laurel
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while in hindesight that's fine, if i bomb trinket/tranq into every avatar stormbolt go, it leaves me kinda naked

grand mesa
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If ur caught in caster form no hots mid late game into a spear

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You really should consider trinket tranq

clear pulsar
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You should ironbark the spear avatar go

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They're both 1.5m cd

rancid laurel
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i was ironbarked and in bear for the sb

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i dumped bear at the 2.0 mark when i overgrwothed

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i was pre juv'd

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i had germ that run too

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so i had 2 juv, not sure why i didn't have lb? i am really good about keeping it up

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not sure if that would've saved the trinket tho

young condor
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I dont think warrior should be capable of killing in 1 stun but i guess its state of game now

thick minnow
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rofl, go 2/4 in a lobby 50mmr over my DH. Gain 5 rating. Go 2/4 in a lobby 50 mmr over my resto druid. Lose 40

clear pulsar
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Yeah sometimes you just get unlucky with the crits but you shouldnt rly be pushing back on the idea of trinket and/or tranq for spear avatar go lol

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Thats their biggest go what else are yougonna trinket on?

rancid laurel
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i dunno i guess i'm oldschool in not overlapping all cd's at once

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it feels kinda shitty having nothing after first go

young condor
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What elo is this in?

clear pulsar
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You'll have something, HP

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I'm jk, ofc I understand what you are thinking but like

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You have to trade cds

young condor
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I mean trinket is 2m cd and tranq is 3m right?

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Avatar is 1.5

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Idk spear

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Probs 1.5 aswell

rancid laurel
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i run innerpeace

clear pulsar
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Idk what build you're playing but you can trade other things too sometimes

grand mesa
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You should be playing 2 min tranq tbh

rancid laurel
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so tranq is 2

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yeah i do

clear pulsar
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If you OG Swiftmend NS + Renewal there

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You dont die

young condor
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The point i was trying ti make is that warrior always wins on trading cds

rancid laurel
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if i had given him tranq and trinket on top of ironbark and overgrowth i would've flopped afterwards anyways tbh

clear pulsar
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Thats 3 globals and all cds that match avatar spear timing

rancid laurel
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unless my dps spent the next full minute peeling

young condor
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Yeah but hows bear + wall not enough?

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And some dots

clear pulsar
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They died out of bear

young condor
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Frenzied regen?

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Oh

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I misread

clear pulsar
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The melee at -3.5s and the melee at -0.5s both did the same amount of damage so you were either in bear for both or neither ye?

young condor
#

Thougut he died in bear with iron bark in a stormbolt go

rancid laurel
#

i died out of bear because i cast og

clear pulsar
#

Ironbark off cd

rancid laurel
#

i was in bear and had bark from 5-3

viscid remnant
#

did they nerf the compstomp gains like i rememb last time i was getting 500 per game now im getting 300-400 wtf

rancid laurel
#

used og at 2

#

which takes bear off

clear pulsar
rancid laurel
#

i can check arena addon to double check, but 90% sure i was

viscid remnant
#

f2f true

clear pulsar
#

But it does just come down to cd trading and

#

You can make up for not having a certain cd later with better prep

#

And kiting

#

But if you are caught with your pants down it's always better to overtrade than die

young condor
#

I agree with ecole here its kinda stupid gotta trade everything for that

clear pulsar
#

They press every cd they have, you press a 1 min cd 20% wall?!

#

You arent gonna live mate

young condor
#

Wall + trinket + tranq

#

Should a warripr be able to solo someone with every cd in a window like that?

viscid remnant
#

he press cd

#

u dont

#

?

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if u dont have cds

#

u have a teammate

#

its not that insane

grand mesa
#

I am not convinced u were in bear the whole time curious to see if u have replay

rancid laurel
#

i dunno, i personally think giving him a 45 sec and a 1min and giving him my 90 sec frenz regen should be enough for his avatar

#

yeah i have to check arena log @grand mesa

young condor
#

Yeah thats my point lol, like are you trading the earlier stuff for nothing?

rancid laurel
#

pretty much

#

also, i feel like perfect prep is lb/rejuv/rejuv/bark/bear

#

i was only missing lb

#

~maybe~ bear

young condor
#

Which is dumb, they pressure you enough without their cds

clear pulsar
#

You dont have to check log, you were in bear for the CS hit but not for the mortal strike

grand mesa
rancid laurel
#

i def would've pressed bear in this situation, but i also may have been 1 global slow

#

damp, this happened like 15 seconds into game

viscid remnant
#

so u played bad and u are crying

#

or what

rancid laurel
#

i'm not crying i was asking for tips

grand mesa
#

Is this dh pug or friend

rancid laurel
#

i actually don't think arms is op, i was looking for proper play

#

friend, we were in discord, we are talking about proper plays atm on it

grand mesa
#

It’s p simple then

rancid laurel
#

this is why we brought it up bc i wanna make sure shit like this doesn't happen

grand mesa
#

Trinket tranq first

#

Dark second

#

If the damage is that real

haughty compass
#

Maybe I’m just a pres gamer

young condor
#

Jeez popping tranq 8n first min of game, that must feel bad

haughty compass
#

Instant Qs are so nice

clear pulsar
#

Yeah you have to trade cds and you will not be able to perfectly match yours with theirs everytime, DPS are expected to be able to land a kill eventually and your way of outplaying it is gonna be based on saving cds by using other tools.

rancid laurel
clear pulsar
haughty compass
#

@viscid remnant go warrior we kitty

young condor
#

Lmfao

#

First 5s

#

Such skill !

clear pulsar
#

?

young condor
#

Im saying warra are overtuned

viscid remnant
#

nah pylon

#

idont wanna play wayy

grand mesa
#

????????

viscid remnant
#

warr

young condor
#

Being able to do that without damp

clear pulsar
#

Arms isnt even top 10 spec in 2s

haughty compass
#

Hunter for jungle

viscid remnant
#

how without damp

#

mf u paly 2s

#

2s is insta 30% damp

#

?

#

?

young condor
#

Coz of lack of defensives

clear pulsar
#

You're off your gourd

viscid remnant
#

off the krekpipe

safe heart
#

Is a gourd a pumpkin or no

grand mesa
#

There is nothing more dominant than assa rogue rn in 2s. Warriors are free

young condor
#

Alright fine warrs should be able to kill in a stun window against anything besides a tranqless rdruid

rancid laurel
#

9/10 warriors don't bother me tbh

#

that game blew my mind

haughty compass
viscid remnant
young condor
#

Wait assa rogue is strong in 2's i thought sub waa better for 2s

grand mesa
#

Yeah you have caut blaze for every deathmark

lime light
#

is davider NA player yet

haughty compass
#

Yea

clear pulsar
grand mesa
#

Maybe even lower at this point

clear pulsar
rancid laurel
#

yeah we mostly saw rogues a 1700

young condor
#

I hate warriors coz of shuffle mainly

#

Jfc 2s sounds awful

haughty compass
#

We fought nothing but DH : rogue

#

Lost to every feral

rancid laurel
#

even dh are easier than rogue

safe heart
#

Sounds like something a pilgrim would say when his kid buys an ACDC album

rancid laurel
#

just root and line

young condor
#

I hate doing rogue mirrors already

rancid laurel
#

wait till they mongo outta los from their healer so they can't get the dispel they reverse the first one, stun and hard cast second

young condor
#

And you're twlling me thats all that awaits

safe heart
#

Just NS root the warrior
Press starsurge

#

And also suffice

#

Sunfire

rancid laurel
#

you guys are taking sunfire in 2s? @6000 mana a cast?

viscid remnant
#

waste of talent+mana

grand mesa
#

Enji is trolling lol

safe heart
#

I'm an sp player so I usually don't take sunfire

#

Too much mana

rancid laurel
#

was gonna say i tried sunfire and managed to go oom and enemy healer has like 170k

young condor
#

What counters assa rogue? (Besides dragon)

winter rapids
#

How much harder is solo shuffle to climb in as rdru, as opposed to feral or balance

young condor
#

Id think easiee coz instant queues

#

But mmr for healers is fucked

#

So you are probs best off leaving ones u are going to go 0-6 in if their cr is lower than urs

grand mesa
#

You’ll have more chances to climb cause quick queues

#

Leaving is cringe

young condor
#

Otherwise you are going to lose such a ridiculous amt

#

Blizzard encourages it, you retain mmr

winter rapids
#

I've been mostly breaking more or less even and the climb has slowed down a lot

safe heart
#

Leaving is based
It shows ppl that nothing in life is free and to cherish every moment

grand mesa
#

Leaving like David cause it’s a fuck u to dps is whatever to me. Leaving to retain MMR on purpose to climb is so cringe

clear pulsar
#

I'm so glad enji is here contributing to the conversation

#

Fucking borrowed power looking ass

safe heart
#

I don't have any borrowed power now
It's all in my talent tree

young condor
#

So its okay if its outa spite but its not okay if its to salvage your mmr?

#

Fairo

clear pulsar
#

Ok so you're just looking ass now

safe heart
#

Leaving out of spite is bis

viscid remnant
#

imean

#

some1 said

safe heart
#

It's your DUTY as a wow player
To grief

viscid remnant
#

"if u leave u are gay" so i left

winter rapids
livid wasp
#

tony playing vortex as feral kinda weird

safe heart
#

Tony on krek

winter rapids
#

Getting any cr out of going 4/6 is hilariously slow

#

And I feel like I can only do so much when literal idiots queue into it

young condor
#

I used to leave on my ele shammy coz i wanted the melees know they are going to get nothing from this lobby, i kinda look forward to the messages tbh.

viscid remnant
#

leaving as dps is 1iq

rancid laurel
#

ele slaps wym

young condor
#

Figured its fine coz everyone already does leave and people are inflated af so eh

viscid remnant
#

if uare not carrying ua re bad and ur quque is 1hr

#

feed

crystal forge
#

i think i hit 1.8 in solo shuffle then quit pvp

young condor
#

What difference does it make

crystal forge
#

zzz

viscid remnant
#

oktrev

thick minnow
#

leaving makes it easier to climb

#

what a sick system

viscid remnant
#

whoasked for ur opinion

winter rapids
#

I'd rather go do RBGs at this point

safe heart
young condor
#

Thats fine, idc about my rank or anything its the satisfaction i get knowing they had long ass waiting times aswell all for nothing

#

Blame blizzard for designing it this way

#

But i dont queue shuffle as often because no exaggeration it felt 60% of my games had leavers / afk

winter rapids
#

I have only had one leave, just

#

Feels like every other game I'm getting feeders or just people who don't know what to do at all

grand mesa
#

I’ve had so many last few days lmao

winter rapids
#

Like getting a WW monk with 260k hp

#

That was a fun 3/3 pointless fucking trade of a game

safe heart
#

Yeah the pve guys who have enough mythic ilvl queuing lol

young condor
#

ir blizzard punished leavers ppl wouldnt leave

#

Too bad player numbers are down

safe heart
#

Blizzard would need to ban my account to make me not leave

young condor
#

Thats what i mean by punishing

grand mesa
#

U were pumping

safe heart
#

I'd leave if it meant -500cr

#

But if I had deserter for 8 hours across all pvp, I wouldn't queue

crystal forge
#

pvp isnt fun rn

young condor
#

Like i said its a fuck you to the dh, warr or dk

#

If the game is sig ificant for them anyway

safe heart
#

If I get zugged down by all melee lobby, I'm outtie on round 6 2 globals before I lose

young condor
#

If they're good enough they will make up my leaving in their next match

rancid laurel
#

@grand mesa @safe heart talked with dh, gonna improve, thanks for tips

How offensive should i be in 2s with clone?

tiny oar
#

Good night beautiful pvpers

rancid laurel
#

dh is requesting i immediately clone healer, then switch to dps

safe heart
#

I'm not an rdruid but

rancid laurel
#

i'm suggesting that's incredibly risky

grand mesa
#

I play dh rdru

#

That’s my comp

young condor
#

Yes i dont respect these classes that just hold w

safe heart
#

Clone their go

grand mesa
#

I rarely clone

#

Lmao

#

I let him hold W

rancid laurel
#

do you stream?

grand mesa
#

Clone rogue kidneys

viscid remnant
#

alittle bit more moonkacopium

young condor
#

Theyd probs bomb

viscid remnant
#

puzzy what slots on rdr u use worldpvp gear

grand mesa
#

Uhhh chest wrist belt

#

Those pieces don’t have mastery for conq or honor versions

grand mesa
viscid remnant
#

thoughts about mainhand+wpvp offhand

#

xd

rancid laurel
#

msg me your twitch?

viscid remnant
#

kinda thinking about it

#

iam low on bloody tokens tho

grand mesa
#

I don’t like mogging MH OH

#

So I take staff

#

For Argus scythe

#

👍

safe heart
#

I wish there were more shield looking mogs that casters could use

grand mesa
#

U hold ur 4 pixel book

#

Or torch

#

In your OH

#

And you’ll like it

viscid remnant
#

idk

#

idont have mogs either way

#

XD

grand mesa
#

True lmao

viscid remnant
#

but man the honor sobad

#

only 300 per game

#

it used to be 500

#

wtf

grand mesa
#

Bring back unrated SL shuffle

#

Like 1-2k honor a game

safe heart
#

Unrated shuffle

viscid remnant
#

idk i kinda like

#

1hand offhand

#

cuz the wep seathed on ur side

#

then u use a cool back mog from sl

#

taht doesnt root out ur 2hand

#

true or true

lime light
#

what are u davider

viscid remnant
#

driud

clear pulsar
potent lodge
#

Does tier bonus's work in pvp?

#

And is it worth not wearing pvp gear in those slots if so?

clear pulsar
#

If the mastery 1h was the dagger I woulda bought it

#

But mace is tragic

stray sigil
#

is davider na

viscid remnant
#

da

#

even max lvl

stray sigil
viscid remnant
#

maderfaker bich

stray sigil
#

wat

#

wtf?

viscid remnant
#

u think iam liar maderfaker bich

stray sigil
#

u done campaign?

viscid remnant
#

ofc

stray sigil
#

wtf

#

how long have u been playjng notsureif

viscid remnant
#

uhhhhhhhhh

#

probably like

#

8hrs alrdy toda

clear pulsar
#

You can do /played class

#

And it tells you time played in dragonflight

stray sigil
#

very sussy

viscid remnant
clear pulsar
#

Uh might be a details thing

viscid remnant
#

yep spot on actually legeandry

safe heart
#

They should make single player game where you play as Illidan and all the enemies you fight are hpriests and the final boss is a fire mage

grand mesa
#

david monster

viscid remnant
#

dude the last lvl

#

was legit like

#

15 minutes

#

in the cobalt shiat

#

ROFL

zinc wadi
#

well thats unfortunate

#

I got a response in under like 2 hrs

#

but they can't fix

livid wasp
#

tony went 0-6

#

our role model

safe heart
#

Snupy would have went 6-0

livid wasp
#

true

grand mesa
#

I am reroll

flint marten
#

if you pvp as resto, kitty and balance should i just get mastery/vers gear or haste/vers?

grand mesa
#

@vestal citrus

safe heart
#

Oh no Chris is done with solo shuffle

#

Plz help blizzard

stone breach
#

Tbh stats don't matter so don't worry about them

flint marten
#

yea i saw that but really like some haste as bomie

safe heart
#

You're gunna have to compromise if you're buying 1 set for 3 specs

stone breach
#

Yeah, some haste but there's enough slots that you can't get mastery that you'll have some haste

pallid coral
#

lmfao

grand mesa
#

@stone breach thoughts?

pallid coral
#

tony is playing this giga cursed pure aoe demon build

#

it's more aoe than the build i usually play in m+

grand mesa
#

Wonder what’s the angle there

pallid coral
#

angle where

grand mesa
#

Why so aoe

pallid coral
#

just giga cleave

#

they're playing this

stray sigil
#

that looks

#

not good

viscid remnant
#

fejer

#

wherees ur ALT

clear pulsar
viscid remnant
#

true or true

stray sigil
viscid remnant
#

what are u crying about

#

maderfaker bich

stray sigil
grand mesa
#

Class tree

viscid remnant
#

now iam murican

grand mesa
#

Is the increased range really worth all those points ?

viscid remnant
#

kinda cba grinding honor doe

#

that shiat giving me kenk

#

even though its afk content

grand mesa
#

Sit farm and poe

#

Or stables

#

🤣

safe heart
#

I think that ranged shit is troll
You could get alot of extra defense for those points

viscid remnant
#

ok i need a break like i play so muchtoday

safe heart
#

It's 2 yds for 2 points

viscid remnant
#

but its not too bad

pallid coral
#

plays this

clear pulsar
#

Nurturing makes no sense

#

It only buffs swarm dmg

pallid coral
grand mesa
#

Man guess u really just go no clone huh

pallid coral
#

i play clone a lot

sly marsh
#

I love cyclone too much to ever give it up

pallid coral
#

but it's SO expensive

safe heart
#

I can't not take clone

sly marsh
#

Cyclone has sentimental value to me

#

It’s my baby

grand mesa
#

I think feral got the most fucked on that tbh. Rdruid class tree is actually not bad. They Should just baseline it

sly marsh
#

tru

viscid remnant
#

MY BABY BLUE

pallid coral
#

it should jsut be baeline

#

every other spec with spammable cc gets it baselined

#

mage warlock etc

safe heart
#

I mean if you're kill target you could get some extra defense instead of clone but even still clone so good

pallid coral
#

i don't play clone in ooga booga lobbies

#

that's it

#

like if it's dk dh warrior or some shit

safe heart
#

Tony is 2800cr rn?

pallid coral
#

no

#

like 2600?

safe heart
#

Still
Pretty good

pallid coral
#

y

grand mesa
#

Dps streamers playing shuffle is so boring. He’s just waiting for queue

stray sigil
safe heart
#

He's only really trolling like a few of those feral talents

stray sigil
#

objectively taking the 3 yards knc is useless

#

but they all do it

safe heart
#

They like it for pw I guess

#

I'll never play it

languid oxide
#

Hey new to Feral druid. What macro are you using to shapeshift out of roots in cat form? It doesn't seems like /cast !Cat Form works?

safe heart
#

Cancelaura

stray sigil
#

if ur coming from wotlk/tbc

#

doesnt work like that anymore

languid oxide
#

ok so whats the best way for dragonflight? using a cancelaura?

stray sigil
#

a cancelform macro

languid oxide
#

if you have one, would you mind sharing?

kind nest
stray sigil
#

u cant escape cat gcd

grand mesa
stray sigil
#

outside of pressing dash/tf/zerk

#

to get in cat

sly marsh
#

u can dedicate a keybind to cancelform

kind nest
#

.#showtooltip Cat Form
./cancelaura 768
./cast Cat Form

Is that how you'd do it?

sly marsh
#

Useful for dodging hibernate/scare beast as well

stray sigil
#

just have bind

#

ith a macro thats

#

/cancelform

clear pulsar
#

Dash is only off gcd if youre already in cat form

stray sigil
#

thats it

clear pulsar
#

If youre off cat its on global

viscid remnant
#

Fejer woke up

#

And chose to smoke krek

languid oxide
#

so I guess since cat is on GCD, is there any advantage to using cancelform as opposed to just shifting into bear, then back to cat to break roots?

clear pulsar
sly marsh
#

cancelform then cat is faster

#

since bear is also on gcd

languid oxide
#

ah ok

clear pulsar
#

Cancel form puts cat form on gcd no?

kind nest
#

Don't you get a GCD from pressing cat form to leave cat?

I think people are mistaken on what this guy meant. Heck maybe I am but I read it as can you shift out of cat and then back into cat in one singular gcd

clear pulsar
#

In general yes it is pointless same thing as just pressing cat form keybind

sly marsh
#

no, leaving cat form by pressing cat form does not incur a gcd. It’s what I do

clear pulsar
#

It doesnt incur a global cooldown, it incurs a cat form cooldown. You can press other spells immediately but you still have to wait out the global to press cat form again

languid oxide
#

ok so it sounds like. if my goal is to break roots (while I am in cat form), and then shift back to cat form as fast as possible. Using /cancelform then waiting for cat cooldown is the same speed as just using bearform ---> back to cat. The advantage of the cancelform is no GCD, but if the goal is simply to get back to cat, they are the same speed and both break roots. Right?

safe heart
#

Basically if you enter cat form , you are a furry

sly marsh
#

Tru

#

The advantage of /cancelform over bear form is that you can do the former off GCD

#

So if you just used shred or whatever

#

You can get out of the root marginally faster than if you waited for gcd for bear

clear pulsar
#

Just pressing cat form again does the same thing as /cancelform

languid oxide
#

got it. thank you guys for the help!

clear pulsar
#

You can do it during gcd from a spell too

sly marsh
#

Tru

livid wasp
#

havent had to cancel form once this expansion yet

kind nest
#

Anyone have experience playing Boomy in 2s? Is it any good? I tried it and it feels shitty

livid wasp
#

what if it was a 200 iq play to play hibernate

#

catch them off guard

haughty compass
#

nothing like playing a round with a feeder monk

#

who decided to 1 shot final round

#

and going 2-4

sly marsh
#

That seems to be the consensus Drengr

fair mirage
#

then turns around and instakills somebody

#

whoops

stray sigil
#

shuffle

kind nest
#

Fuji is just mad because he can't break combatant I in shuffle lol

edgy shale
#

true

stray sigil
grand mesa
#

actually true

#

Cause he skipped it to duelist

stray sigil
#

i am speedrunning my 2.3 to 1100

#

thats true

grand mesa
stray sigil
#

in a couple of days ill be there

grand mesa
#

He actually probably legit didn’t get combatant I

#

Just straight to rival I

stray sigil
#

no i didnt get any challenger

grand mesa
#

Oh

#

When you hit rival II/duelist

stray sigil
#

went from combattant 1 or soemthing to rival

grand mesa
#

Did it fox?

#

Fix?

stray sigil
#

ya just had to play

#

1 game and then 1 more

grand mesa
#

Someone else had same thing happened and I wasn’t sure what happened to you

stray sigil
#

and it fixes

#

gotta play 1 game in the new bracket

#

and 1 more after

grand mesa
#

Did u win the first game?

#

Or you had to win 2

stray sigil
#

i mean its shuffle

#

wdym by win

edgy shale
#

shut up fuji u talk 2 mucho noob

grand mesa
#

I think you need 3-3 or 4-2 for it to be counted as a win

#

By system

#

I forget which

stray sigil
#

idk this was all before my speedrun

#

i was winning then