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butt he ladder is at its best
when there's pve incentives to pvp
shits always popping
lmao
even my guild was putting together tragic guild RBG nights
PvP'ers cry when pve wants in
altho i def find it way funnier when pvpers have to pve like drest trinket
I dont think its necessarily a bad take, I think you are fried in the head to be able to hold both this opinion and hate being forced to m+ to gear faster for raiding at the same time.
ok he's fried then
u have zero nuance sometimes
just because i think the ladder is good when pve incentives are there
doesn't mean i actually want that to happen
Bro its his entire thing with m+ he hates it cuz he's forced to do it for raiding
And then he says that
cause i do want people to just be able to play the game mode they want
I think pvp gear should be decent for pve
Most of my pushback is on the take that m+ is mandatory
Make 2400 gear 415 in pve
there's 0 reason why the best of the best pvp'ers can't at least have first boss loot
408 is just insulting
there would perhaps be some if you could get any relevant pve gear
there was in SL s1, what do you mean
we've seen it happen where if there's relevant loot in pvp it'll be done
not any better than those who just pvp for cosmetics like me mostly
what that means
It doesnt have to be a thing of focused intent like that tho
Having competent gear across game modes is nothing but positive?!
btw. i do agree with thep uzzle take that the vault should fewer required KILLS like
it should be 4-5 for a full vault, not 8 and definitely not 10 like at firster
FUCK THTA SHIAT
What are you doing with the honor anyways?
Like it isn't black and white either 0 pve or you are organizing a roster to mythic prog and do +25s
nice
I got a 16 Nokhud Glyph. š
why u ned that
feather is really good
if annoying to hear
im in love with resto now shits so fun
lmaoo
I dont wanna prog 14s with pugs for m+ vault upgrade
And I dont wanna play another 1.7k mmr lobby and lose 30 rating trying to get to 2.1 yet
Yeah
bro whoever was complaining about restos survivability
should never play mistweaver
i feel damn near invincible on resto
bear form frenzy ez
ye i got that im[pression when i played resto
it was when cenarion ward was broken but like
cenarion+2rejuv+lb on u in bear
and ur p much invincible
is the feral changes for next patch a net buff or net loss in pvp?
net loss I think
we get like 2 extra points of talents in general tree, but we lose lunar inspiration
Yea. I wonder if they realize that losing Li is bad. Like that and FF are kinda weird to be on the same node. I think they want Li back in the game but donāt know how to do it.
so they absolutely broke mmr another way haha, they take rating into account now, so fresh games you're thrown into fresh lobbies sub 1k, you best go 6-0 or you're gonna drop
Feedback is overwhelmingly negative on that change so big hopium they do further changes
Yea I donāt care of my damage is nerfed. The playstyle is just too good the way it is.
If
Itās fun
does anyone besides PvP'ers use LI?
I guess one of the devs plays a fury and got angry a feral was able to kite him and build CPs from range
so now they want ferals to facetank fury, dh and the likes to be able to do dmg
Cause I don't think I've seen LI in pve
LI is super good for anything tbh
open world, pvp, tagging mobs
idk why they destroy it by placing it next to FF
even if Li tunes better than FF i wont play it cuz FF is so much fun to use everywhere
they should make curse of doom off gcd

pvp is hell in TW server, nobody can queue in solo shuffle as the system will kick players randomly and end the game
Went 8-1 last night but still at 0 rating š¦
idk what is that
taiwan server no?
rofl
i remember back in the days
taiwan severs had like
highest rating at
1300
rofl
sounds like the old HotS TW and KR servers
post tream when u raid
so be happy
Really? Just cuz strats or aussie banter?
Tru
It's prett yeasy to do
Setup voicebanana
Real

Weak mental
Even the glyphstro suffers
ok then fakking at leaasta link sum1 in ur guild's streamaa

His UI is a fucking atrocity
as long as it works for him lol
Clean!!
Ok little naowh wannabe

i stg if li changes go through
Stg?
this is them thinking about buffing LI without pve feeling like they need both I'd wager
swear to god
kinda? regenerating cp's from afar to go in for the throat with a wild charge feels so good and they want to ruin it
It's not about pvp at all, this is literally a pve change
Itās been a challenge to find an appropriate place for Lunar Inspiration. It adds a button to the rotation and another DoT to track. Because of that increased complexity, we donāt want it to feel required for all players. However, the current reduced-power version also isnāt meeting the needs of players who do want to play it.
it's weak, they want to buff it, but they don't want players to feel forced into it so it's competing against frenzy
they're buffing it 66%
cant wait to play handicapped feral pog
This is reverting a nerf they already put out, they are concerned with power relative to the talent's position. It's not a pve or pvp matter in their reasoning.
LI is dps neutral with 2nd point in tireless energy
Just don't play LI if you dont want to
Hi
hi
Hi
Hello fellow pvpers
first we lose roar now we lose moonfire kek
Hi qt
is the best option to save conquest points for wep?
Grats

Wassup
Hi
I am a bit confused, are the changes nerf or buff to resto druid? š
Can anyone direct to a helpful video for feral PvP. I am new to the spec and I am just tirelessly beaten on every encounter.
you just say that cause zechey doesnt make videos
How many pve bosses is dead
Frost DK spy here, what are some things I can do in 3s to counter/annoy druids to win against them? resto seems strong right now. @ me thanks ^^
4/8
is there an easy fix for raid frames appearing twice?
As a dk/Druid main, countering resto is really tough this expac. I feel we are second strongest behind evokers right now. As always purge is decent against us but not terribly so. My one weakness right now is regen so def try and stop the drink in 2ās but even thatās hard with our mobility + stealth.
Hey all I know resto is in a strong spot but there are times where when Iām playing 2ās with my Uh DK friend where I have full dots on him and ironbark and heās just getting destroyed. Like I can never top him off. Anything I can do better? We donāt really have any direct heals right so outside of stuns and cyclones there isnāt anything I can do?
Ya I use both those
I wish
Prolly talents, use undergrowth so you can lb yourself for the 20% talent, and overgrowth for double rejuv, verdant infusion to extend adaptive swarm and cen ward druid throughput is more complicated than other healers
Thanks for the tips. Iām running all of that except undergrowth
I have double rejuvs, lifebloom, regrowth, adaptive swarm, cenarian, and then I verdant but the dk is always at half life most of the arena match. Iāll typically swiftmend on CD and nc regrowth when I can. So Iām not sure. When all dots are up Iām trying to spam cyclone and might bash when I can but heās still getting wrecked. Are dks just really paper thin?
does anyone else get the issue of thrash just not working? it tells me ability needs a target when i try to use it, ahve to relog to fix the issue
Also is tree ever worth running? Maybe thatās what I need to top him off?
feral btw
Dks aren't soft imo, lots of softer teammates you could have. Make sure you guys aren't overlapping all your defensive theb leaving the enemy with 10 seconds of their offensives left and you guys have nothing.
Take empowered clear can't talent and crit regrowth talent, photosynthesis too. If your dk is dying in opener you should be well over 30k hps
I don't run tree but a lot of people do
Thanks @rancid laurel what talent are referring to when you say empowered clear clear canāt talent?
Clear cast, there is one that makes regrowth do like 30% more
Make sure you are keeping lifeblood on both of you for photosynthesis and it also props clearcsst more
Bloom**
Df seems all about modifier stacking
Getting 150k regrowths during enemy go is what saves the day
Holy shit
Yeah I havenāt been getting anything near that
Can you link me your talent build by chance?
Send me a dm I will in a few hours when I'm home
Done and done š thank you
Hi, which item should i buy first with me conquest point ?
Spec?
Probably save it for weapon next week
just want to confirm, is there any reason to wait to pick up crafted gear? there's only two slots you can get, so you'll def want those pieces, right?
Is there any main resto druid at the level of Cdew? (Cdru)
Morning
No
@sage tusk yes I get it almost every round switch into bear swipe then go into cat and do the same donāt ask why it fixes it , it just does
morning
ill check later
puzzle i ended at 1918 on resto last night after some games in shuff
shits fun
learned it overnight ez
Yeah itās super fun
I try other healers to diversify but I just enjoy druid so much itās hard to play others
same
gonna be healer main from now on
im doing 2s on it with like a 1300 assa rogue and he can just tunnel someone like a fury warrior
shits funny
absolute state of rogues
Welcome
Assa rdru is what I suspect the comp is gonna be
Shits mental
who shall go next

Ehhh
ill show u what im running rn
If ur nice with it ig. Lake loves maim too. Iāll never drop innv for maim personally lol
Swap that 1 point in regenesis for flash of clarity
Spec tree looks good. Iāve been preferring reforestation over invig lately but invig definitely isnāt that bad and has its place. And I was using it religiously before
I think ur leaving a lot of free ranged damage on the table by not getting starsurge or protector
Like I spike someone randomly for 60-80k damage randomly frequently on my own all the time. Can help close kill on rogues kidney or feral maim go
Yeah it took me a bit to get used to it. Not like rdru pressed dmg buttons in SL
But once u do the class is 10x more fun
hello my chatters
I mean u can surge every 10s and if crits for around 40k. Max juiced moonfire can fill up probably every 10s or so too with moderate healing
Hi EP
feral counters everything
look at my pin
it resets at 8 am?
And dig dirt
I donāt think u need
hi
where can i get the digger
I think dragons cale expedition. Look at your dragon scale expedition and see if
puzzle u think its twice per week
U have unlocked shovel
and not only 1
Zepeey playing our comp -assa ele, but that assa is doing 25k dpos KEKW @viscid remnant
Itās twice
ye or less
what healer also he playing with
mw
what should i lvl up
ye
i saw lontar plays incarn lol
what does this do
it says
there
siege is over
where can i buy the shovel i forgor sry @grand mesa
@viscid remnant
so ep was doing
around that damgur
but that assa is doing like 7k more
ye
level mw
but tbh if udont like evoker idk if u gonna like any other healer
this one looks like most fun
and mw also
i saw a 450k cocoons tho
rdruid most fun
iam using wrecking throw on it for 200k and its not even close to be gone
bro having full hots on a teammate then going for a charge>bash>clone is so fun
with dmg on the enemy dps too
It is a quest reward and sold by NPCs. In the Other Items category. Added in World of Warcraft: Dragonflight. Always up to date with the latest patch.
this one?
Dragon scale expedition base camp
I just flew around
And got like 50-60
Eventually you canāt find more
Until it resets
But itās nice to just snag as you fly around
The 4 super rares drop 8 sparks in azure
ive found sparks easy
u are saying puzzle
if i get renown on 1 character
i get ALL the shiat
like this
i will get on alts ?
but ye this spark quest
Shovel
make me wanna not make another alt
sparks don't seem that bad
idk idont have shovel
I got half of it done in like 20 minutes just getting treasures and some WQs
That sucks EP
I actually think shovel is worth it tbh EP
Cause this is a weekly
And finding 200 kills every week
Sounds miserable
WQs shovel and the daily rares
You wonāt need to kill someone
So the 4 super rares drop 8 each. Reset each day. 5 days of super rares gets you the weekly done
Just the rares alone
maybe i farm rares
ep noob
Yea I think Rdu is best 2s healer atm
wat bout evoker pylon
so far evokker dies in 2s
Yea
uknow whats funny
the ones who show up on map with weird icon
i think
are super rares
the normal yellow star are reg rares
that has low up time and can be purged
stay in stealth for 30s?

2.2 mmr they dont do it inopener anymore
hpal gaming
how about those SP buffs they threw in .5
not dmg
Umm like just pve dam?
BsbBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQDOAAAAAAAKa4AL4AOgDcgFcAHYBcgFcAH4AtDcgDcgF0CSLkIhkEIJJSESSC
Thatās m+ build
Pull more than one mob coward
heroic
Any dirt diggers? Iām spamming that rep
the htings u do
for renwon in this game
im killing some hippotatamus (pod's mom)
dogshit disgusting pve world pvp
solo q is actually fun
Bullying pveārs that have wm on is hilarious
Pve is cool
@edgy shale
As a nullifying shroud enjoyer I agree

but there is 30 of them with bubbles or buffs that makes them hit 1000%
what do u mean ep
what does this give
some rep gear and shit
Someone needs to craft my work order
dude this pigs
will craft
anything
even for 50g
XD
i was a fool posting the order for 2k
after that io posted for 50g
ye i put both for 5k
kurwa
iam reporting u for flaming polish players

i put on my pala for 500 and 0 crafts
KURWA
its been about 2 hours
I did a 1k commission
man i posted my things
at 10 am
they insta klepto it
yesterday ithink
but the head sucks af
crit is so dogshit the effect also
but i guess the main stat and stam pays off
Yea the most useless proc
yup yup
Make it proc off dead pets
ye or totems KEKW
whats the best way to get chaos now
be bugged
i still need 20 for my hat
and get it from every win
some characters are bugged
and u can check your queue brackets
if there is a box
u will get box from every win
on my ww it is for 2s
and also
it can be fixed
i got like a shitton of primals
dont rly wnat to
but were u bugged?
its super bugged feji
luckly i win all the time
i get a box every win on my evoker
no its like some characters get nothing
some characters get every win
bugged forsure
i was only getting on ww
ye i got a box every win
and then we stopped after like 10 wins
who
fuji > ep
sit down kid
wrong
who
notsure
Evoker discord has some of the most fried takes
āI hope 2s and 3s goes away so they focus on balancing around shuffleā bro
why would evokers complain

renownfarmerx

making ep angry?
once i finish the weekly
also dragonrider wq
is not bad
free 500 gold
like the bag had 500gold
yes
if its in the zone of the spark ye
ep need ur opinion
delete priest log rsham or mw yes ?
dont delete
but priest is boring ye
idk rsham feels super cool to play
till u ahve to heal
hpriest good
idk when i played it
it feels like serenity is dog
flash is dog
human mw or orc
nelf
tauren
Anyone have any tips on how to beat rets as feral? If I don't kite they 1-shot me through defensives, if I kite they just heal. I know it's a skill issue I just don't know what I'm doing wrong.
just kite wings they do like no dam outside of it
Hmm I'll try to pay attention to it. I need to find a ret player to duel with a bunch
both bad races
it is what it is not going to pay 25euro to swap race
precious shekels
any dirt diggers
I also thought of faction transferring my dracthyr but 30 euros
faction doesnt matter anymore
u did quests or what
yeah but it was when I farmed honor
quests and the weekly that gives 2500 for doing 10wq
Hi, I see that Diminish addon is not maintained anymore, is there an alternative or every1 just use the unmaintained version?
@grand mesa do u knwo of an addon that tracks all your hots on teammates?
unit frames
Hey, I'm here too, š Cause I still stand by this, let 3s and 2s die just like 5s did, future is now! 
What does everyone use for tracking DR on yourself?
the power of guessing

it still works for me
diminish that is
Just rooted yourself out. Lol I wasnāt gonna name you
meh, people here heard me complain about how bursty shuffle was last night too
panda
where do i quest for this shit @viscid remnant
First of all
i need 1900
Take the weekly of doing 10wq
did it
ok
like there is a story like u are taking pictures of dragons and stuff
You have neither no hands no brain why balance around u
and abit in there
Bigdebuffs
But itās buggy just fyi
Can see 6 bugs
Buffs
Extending cen ward is a big part of gameplay
So not being able to see
Jesus puzzle going in
Cen ward sometimes
hes right
shuffle is ok
as something to fill the time
but not real pvp
not a replacement for 3s or 2s
Saying it needs to delete rated arena is fried
Moron canāt play the game mode and asks to break 2s and 3s so he can have fun without bothering to try and getting better
100%
truuuuuue
to me shuffle is like
maybe i will try getting all elite mogs on all healers
for fun
Super high damp, Zerg fest. Itās a good way to practice setting up your shit and staying sharp
Heās telling fuji to wait our evoker nullifying shroud in stealth when heās not even 4 digit shuffle rating get out of here
where do I take the 10wq quest?
in the main city
But I have no illusion that in a rank 1 player because Iām doing ok in shuffle rofl
ah thanks
ye
What do you mean by extending Cen ward? I thought it's just about Flourish
verdant infusion talent
but that's literally the counter if you don't have purge
you wait it out
disengage and stuff
Dude lol
Unironically just said āline itā
shroud is easily countered, it doesn't last that long.
I'd trade it for another stun
It can be cast during a fight
xd
maybe heplaying against evokers that cast it on opener
and forget the button
Yes of course he is
When you see them getting ready to set their go up, you cast it
In real arena
i mean they nerfed echoing cuz it was toxic
90s
ya that is piss
WHJRERE IS THE DIRT
if u dont have purge its 33% uptime if u use it on cd lol
maderfaker
If youāre losing youāre the weakest link out of 6 players. There is no one else to blame. Healer bad? Then you win at least 3. Dps is too zug zug? Youāre gonna play against him too. Pretty sure heās still gonna be zugging on the enemy team.
There is literally 0 toxicity. Why? Cus the person you flame is gonna be your teammate again. You donāt wanna put pressure on them. People still complain but itās usually āx is bad, focus himā. And the greatest thing is when the said bad player is on your team instead of insulting, people encourage them, come up with new ideas to make it somehow work and spend more effort to peel for them because if you win 1 round with for example the weaker healer itās a huge advantage overall.
Solo MM is the best way to measure individual skill in competitive games. Thats how you find the real grinders. Real nerds. Getting carried along with your rmp premade doesnāt mean shit.
Do you think the best wow pvpers are the ones we got atm? Or some 3.x k solo ranked super nerd whos been through thick and thin, played against/with the wildest comps and made it work and therefore have more situational experience, better muscle memory and more flexible.
i did it
r u ok garnef
idk i cant see em eitehr im like 14 renown so
i will try on dragon i guess
its an /r/worldofpvp take 
he boomy player cant be ok
true actually
do you have shovels in your bag?
yes
boomy feeling pretty bad, but i wont quit
unless my friends make me play warlock instead 
If youāre losing youāre the weakest link out of 6 players. There is no one else to blame. Healer bad? Then you win at least 3. Dps is too zug zug? Youāre gonna play against him too. Pretty sure heās still gonna be zugging on the enemy team.
There is literally 0 toxicity. Why? Cus the person you flame is gonna be your teammate again. You donāt wanna put pressure on them. People still complain but itās usually āx is bad, focus himā. And the greatest thing is when the said bad player is on your team instead of insulting, people encourage them, come up with new ideas to make it somehow work and spend more effort to peel for them because if you win 1 round with for example the weaker healer itās a huge advantage overall.
Solo MM is the best way to measure individual skill in competitive games. Thats how you find the real grinders. Real nerds. Getting carried along with your rmp premade doesnāt mean shit.
Do you think the best wow pvpers are the ones we got atm? Or some 3.x k solo ranked super nerd whos been through thick and thin, played against/with the wildest comps and made it work and therefore have more situational experience, better muscle memory and more flexible.
this>?
Hello. I'm considering to play healer in pvp. How does it feel to be healer ir Bg's and solos ?
Any thought on feral in pvp after 10.0.5?
ok how to dig
dig kurwa
I've been leveling one, cuz I've been a priest, but if the DoTs are getting shit on its gonna be big sad
hardly ghetting shuit on
so i did all this
It's been super fun tho
shit for nothing?
ferals gonna be fine
I wanna be a melee dps and that's the one that stood out for me
As someone just gettin in pvp
the class tree changes mean nothnig almost changes nothing
minor nerfs the worst is the Li/FF node
but thats gonna be changed
for sure
@grand mesa https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1603480130126503957 time to log murica? 
feedback has been very negative on that one
The lunar being made a choice node seemed interesting, might have to check some builds with that
its not interesting
kills lunar entirely
Really š
yes
if it stays like that
lunar is never gonna be played
hence why i said they will prob go back on that one change
do you guys go clone in shuffle nor not? nobody CCs the healer if I don't and I need stuns for the kill target. as feral.
cuz moonfire does no dmg
and ff is ur only burst cd
moonfire only relevant atm cuz its ranged generator
Even with the increase they're adding? š
When does that patch go Live guys ?
they nerfed it by 40% before
and buffing it by 66%
so its not even back to what it was
before the nerf
so yes
the buff does nothing
Hmmm, that's sad
regarding dirt piles, they spawn every couple hours or something and there's a finite number
we have had 1 burst cd since like
bfa lol
outside of 2 ssns last xpac where we had sickle
I'm just getting into it, so I'm just curious about their place in the game
we have decent dam tis not like assa rogue or sp lvl
or demo prob
but like its fine
I'm currently disc, but i wanted something more... engaging to the fight if that makes more sense
what spec and strategy are ferals using in shuffle? I've hit a bit of a blocker at 1300 rating, didn't think i'd be high rated but thought i had act together enough to get to 1600 or so. I've got a cleave build and put up PW and then focus target, try to time stuns on healer, or to peel dps if one of my team is low. Don't feel i'm doing terrible but its definitely not working out as i hoped
could be this is just my level, until i get sharper with my timings and focus
if u get double melee lobbies u just send damage
idk havent had much trouble with it barely been ccing or anything in most lobbies
fair enough, actually i think i'll record next set of matches and watch that back, should help
tfw there's a demo lock on the enemy team and you just get to press only bite you have so many procs
long story short , just be prepared to be underwhelmed and everything will beo k
youll crank imps like no other tho
@lime light
Wait a minute, that doesn't sound good :0
i mean
enji is a bit doomer
feral is decent, youll do decent dmg but youre not on par with the rest of the melee really
war rogue and dh will outdmg you unless you have enough pets to pad dmg on
I notice a lot of top rated rdruids aren't taking circle of life and death, is it because it's mana inefficient? I otherwise feel like 15% throughput is a big deal and for 1 talent point it's a no brainer, but I do find myself having mana issues, is this talent he culprit?
itsbad
hello friends idk how to pvp who wants to give me a good real answer
do damgur
ask question first
RIP ankles off
should i save my conquest this week or buy stuff
we dont even know what spec u play
save

save
save for bigdick weapons next week?
are u pver?
yes
if u gonna chose a pve
y save ur gonna get wep in vault for sure
idk what that means
ur tirnket
adaptation
idk i have it
ok put it in the bag
use normal pls
Yoo i forgot about vault
very big
pve piglets
Hope i get something useful kek
i did know that
hes a healer ep
to surive
says balance
Circle is not an hps increase, you're spending more mana on keeping up the same hots in the same window of time. Rdruid mana is not great in general atm but that's how it is rn, need to play for drinks sometimes
xd
fuk u all
Yea buff feral
any specific items we should spend our conquest on first?
im not gonna be using vault for gear me thinks
so im just farming conq
cause big pve energy
True me too
actually dont care about wep in vault
cuz i get wep next week anyways with quest

Fuji, which one asked
every1 saying
me
that the quest takes
30mins
cuz u dig dirt
is a fucking liar pig
and shoudl be banned
ye i just killed horde hoglets
liar pig
no
never lie to EP please
true
EP knows when u do
nope u are lying
dirt doesnt exist
Wtf is dirt
Any thoughts on the strife weapon vs the conquest one ? (for feral.)
idk im not a dirty boomy piggie
like when
jsut went 2-4
bronze face trinket
and gained 30 rating
medaillon yes
medallion + insignia for boomy
@stray sigil Tough call, but thanks š
wtf
then just dump honor on upgrades?
upgrade is only for pve ilvl
upgrades dont matter in pvp
nope
Nop
crafted is 398, war mode is 408, honor is 411, conquest is 424
regardless of pve ilvl
wait so should i buy honor gear to replace my warmode shit or pray for trophy of strifes for the juice?
idek how to get trophies
oh okay
Anyone have tips for going against fury warriors? There's so many of them right now and I'm struggling against them and their ridiculous self heal
as what spec
sorry, feral
You want the drakebreaker gear for worlds so yeah using honor to upgrade honor gear is probably a waste
What's the thinking on stacking haste versus mastery for rdruids, especially to help with mana issues? Murlok.io seems to show most are still prioritizing haste but looking up individual players it seems like there's definitely a stronger preference for mastery?
Okay, I do suck at kiting so I'll work more on that
Mastery is more healing throughput than haste yea
Dirt = dont exist
I heard the consensus is like 20% haste then mastery
Gotcha. Thank you both š
It's been OOM city for me trying to carry my friends in 2s and of course I didn't bother to look into it until I had a full set of honor gear with haste. Oh well
Somaloria is cool why u giving him a hard time
I def go lower haste personally for mastery. Itās really preference.
Use innervate early
So u can mayeb use it twice in a game




