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looks like
So what are these patchnotes
Feral nerf
there's a chance
Or what
i mean will still do less dmg than it did before
lol
and it competes with ff
so 0 chance u take it prob
^
I promise you guys right now you wont take it
but it wont with a 66% buff to it
needs more than that
cuz 40% + 66%
noteven what it was before nerf
and it wasnt much before
ya idk
the conenctions
seem useless
outside fo the rip one
oh well atleast we save points with 3 point node going to 2
adn not having to take thrash
maybe well be able to take Nv and have lycaras and whi @grand mesa
WHAT THE FUCK
i updated discord finally
and i despise this new text
can i change it backs
wdym?
that's what im hoping for
can you post a picture, mine's up to date and I haven't noticed anything
Big starfires inc
fuji i'm hoping that i can pretty much keep my current class tree build but have 2 free points
idk if it'll work out that way tho i need to see the tree
KURWAA
its cuz of these fucks
Because it’s busted af
that's how it's been for me for years
¯_(ツ)_/¯
So you have to choose between lunar and frenzy now?
its diff from before bruh
its a pve change
wdym lol
looks like it
Fuji do I level demo
fuji

feral in pver isn't even that amazing rightr now at al
Lol
0 feral in world first so far
any1 else feeling like
im saying in m+ idk about raid
2s is the most useless bracket this expansion
isnt everyone talking about our aoe
as is tradition
u know blizz balances pver around raid and not m+ right
like udont need rate brackets for gear and easier to just q up shuffler for rival mog
idk
i did a bit of 2s with my brother and i was like
thats why surv and destro were allowed to be disgusting all of last ssn
Yup. Dot damage finally feels perfect
Gets nerfed
lol
why am i dooing this
cuz they didn't wanna nerf them for raid
im 110% certain rogue is gonna get shitted on in a tuning pass soon
in no shape way or form is it ok for all 3 rogue specs to be the best in the game
rogue is top dog in pve?
Where are the nerfs? Why is feral getting worse LOL
top 3 specs in pve
are the 3 rogues spec
lol
lol
Ye I’m digging pres in 2s
@grand mesa ur in here
Preservation feels like shit tovme
should i just scream as loud as i can
I cant do it
yes
wussup
then u scream
no lol i dont wanna get baanned im joking
wtf u should
he wouldn't do it
u can
Holy shit why so many ppl
wtf is going on in there
iam inside
is some nerd making a talent tree
CAREFUL
thyme is also in there don't do anything dumb
Holy fucking sleeper voice channel
its time pod
im not real then cuz its too phucked up
let it all out
ur a fucking bich
i will remember this pod
U DO IT THEN
no just weird changes
Feral nerfs
only big damgurers
I ONLY PLAY FERAL IN PVP
In this world
INNIT
Fuk u fuje
calm with the caps
ya fuk that
Nah seems like a net loss though
its pve piglets talking
LMAFOOOOOOOOOO
I am pig
Maybe a net gain strength wise but play style wise I think it's way worse
eys u r
nosetoker47 is lit bruh
he was like..SOMEONE STOP TYPING UR KEYBOARD IS TOO LOUD IM TRYING TO LISTEN TO AN AUDIOBOOK
its like...what lol
it's actually annoying me that random people are talking. just let gastank read off the changes lol
cool it wiht the anti semitic remarks
facts
i will drop
it's crazy this guy
no kapp

Shuffle> 2s and 3s till mmr inflates
2s is USEELSS BRACKET
w
no glad no fun
2s is fun idk
besides playing with one friend
how is it fun
2s sucks
facts
it's chill
not chill
and the damp is more aggressive so u win or lose quicker
boring cuz games are forever even on mordor
time to get used to no moonfire
dont think we had games over 4mins often
i feel like shadow/x has always been a bit popular cuz of life swap n shiat
ive def done some feral/shadow aand lock/shajdow before
shadow can wombo combo
feral is 30 yards away healing, shadow isn't casting anything with a cast bar
i thnik id rather play rdruid
and i'm taking 50k dps
I main mistweaver and im about to learn rdruid tn
Never played it
Wish me luck
Fuck feral
rdru is tough to get into, gonna spend a few hours trying to find out why you're doing 15k hps
hoping i can get rdruid fast
lmaooo
lontar had a long guide i saw
gonna chec k that out
did he just push out a guide?
(""Didnt read Killer instinct talent properly so usseles build vs sub rogues)"""Tried my best hope u guys like it, and make sure to let me know if im missing something in the comments :D
Talent builds:
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Stats ST: BkGAYhlYdy9RJ6ROrphOEi69vKkkUatkkEF...
2 days ago
Hahah
No
show
Lontar was like rdrud is piss crap and then we enlightened him
for invig, for reforestation, and he's dropping starsurge for 3/3 lycaras
i mean basically i keep lifeblooms up
and hots
and only regrowth on the proc
ya
u'll def have to regrowth more
well try to only use them on procs
swiftmend for SOTF is ur juice
but if i have to then yeah
whats sotf
i havent changed to resto yet just finishing up this sparks quest
so i can buy my damn gear
Rg is a lot
with dbl lifeboom you'll pretty much always have clearcast
Right now
and then with rampant growth ur hot part of regrowth gets buffed by 50% and applies to anyone with LB
this works out of range and thru LOS
so if u lifebloom dps1,dps2, and regrowth thru pillar
on yourself
u hjave regrowth hot on all 3
@stray sigil he's rebuilding ur feral tree rn
guys i cantr watch the stream
Resto
he -plays bommy
feral chat is going bonkers
Me and puzzle both good at resto
pvp?
resto plyaers in this cord it goes lakez >glyphiestro >me>matty>puzzle
whos high exp cr
I’m just saving for wep
its not that deep bro
equip gear q up
in a few weeks u will have full gear either way
So we can't take forestwalk
yeah
i think neck/shoulder or neck/ring the best
for rn
for stats
cause resto doesnt need wep dmg
wep has the most int out of all gear
Did feral get patchea
man playing without moonfire feels so weird but I feel like I have to do it now
just feels bad to play with it knowing I wont play it
u are a GEEK
@stray sigil What they mean by "move to the side" I think means it's same spot as before but now shares a spot with another node
maybe they wont touch it after all, this is just blizzards brainfart
Like here
Same build in pins only I take rip maim
Any 3s gamers? Dev blaster LFG
YEa LI is so good but FF is way better
Why are those mutually exclusive lol
That is like choosing which kid you like better

pve-focused changes probably
im playing leaguer cant see
Instead of renewal imp rejuv
Just silly
I'll block you
Crushing it bro
I wish shuffle was better
Demo lock game
Maybe more people will play it
I went 6-0 gained 9 rating ama
That's pretty good
It wasnt even too big of a gap, 1900 rating vs 1750 mmr lobby
Hows ur mental buddy
Healers have it rough
Dude face
But you get instant Qs
My mental is killed from feral changes not from shuffle @tiny oar
To see
I love being the lowest guy
It’s kinda stupid. If I end up in a 2200. I can troll a bit and still walk away with rating
Then I end up in a 1600 lobby I have to 6-0
Yeah I went 2-4 against some 2.2k hpal yesterday and I got 25 rating or something
That’s more stressful than the higher games lmao
It's so weird
I got d/c'd in a shuffle and I swear I gained rating somehow
And the higher games people are walling and dropping dark and shit
I think I just queue 2s at this point
Lower games is cancer
Yeah I’m waiting for more people to play and kinda try it out and less people starting at 0 rating before I really mess with it again more
Ppl didn't try it enough during prepatch ?
Well
In the sense that this is raid m+ pvp open
Really busy content week
Forest walk sounds good tbh. Depends on how it’s pathed
Face did u see my clip
Yea some of the shit seems pretty interesting
Of psyfiend
Pog
Dude you are going well and then somehow someway the DPS brain fart and dont press wall at all 2 rounds in a row on your team specifically
Only your team
puzzle holding it down in voice still
dude s commited
Isn’t that the worst
Yea then they play godly on the other team
When the dingus figures out he’s the kill target
HAHAHAH
Yeah lmao
And presses wall
After he loses with u
LOL
I breathe a sigh of relief when I 3-0
It's so funny
Get a buffer to troll some
Wrong against afflock I top healing meters and lose all the time
??????????????????????
🤣🤣🤣
wtf
Nice
Get more gear noob
ik u want to but u cant
@stray sigil
dont taunt me after u abandoned me
@tepid spoke
Nope ur wrong
all girls are the same
Thank god blizzard implemented that 408 thing to protect us from 407 players
Unplayable
Mood
Bite the pillow and speak less thanks
HAHAHAHAHA
no only Marvel can say that
Too late
They needed the ilvl thing so bad
getting sparks as feral is so easy
Yeah I 100% wouldn’t have queues
50k hp players were almost as much of a menace as guardian
go to pvp world quest and just aoe primal and run
Nerf feral
Too good at world questing
True
@tiny oar tell me why
Diagnosis: big kok
I go into every shuffle thinking the players are better than me so I better show up. Nice for the mindset
TELL ME WHY
Ain't nothin but a heart break
aint nothing but a mistake
Why what
Aint nothing but a kok
Lol
Man
:)))
What else is there to do on wow
woah thata looks really weird
shuffle, complain about shuffle.... sit in shuffle queues...
True
they need to remake those absoluter dog shiat typhoon nodes
who tf even wants a node for typhoon
like aaan extra one
that caant be good for a healer lol
is there a way
to make it so u can scroll thru your party tabs
like 1-3
scroll thru it
thatd be sick
I think there may be
With some kinda hacky way
But prolly easier to just bind one mousewheel up other one mousewheel down
I use scroll up to cast on party1 and scroll down for party 2
And I use shift and alt for the other spells
im prob just gonna mouseover
im quick at it
dont have room for binds
like that
They just made cyclone cost the same # of points
And then you have to put one more into dispel
Cant sit in q when its insta
Go next
They actually reduced the amount of points we have available if we want to take cyclone and dispel as feral
Forced wild growth and forced improved rejuv for vortex
@thin scaffold mousewheel up for party1 down for party2 click scroll for self target
Mouse buttonz
clicking scroll feels so clunky
so feral bros how are we looking
Hm
Theres a talent that increases healing taken by 20%
How are u ever not gonna take that
If u had naga u could try with that
i mean of course u cn literally run the worst binds ever nad just be good nda win, but it doesn't mean there isn't a better way of setting ur shiat up
aaaaaaaaaah massive changes aaaaaaaaaaaaaah
just do what works for u
Killer Instinct changed to 2 points, granting 3/6% physical damage and armor.
Nurturing Instinct changed to 2 points, granting 3/6% magical damage and healing.
aaaaaaaaah skull bash inc
(probably not)
Dude what
idfk bro this is my first season feral
roger
Ff is perma locked you are trolling if you don't take
Ff is like the only single target dmg ability ferals have rn lol
Yeah
Yes
ye massive PTR changes
WHAT
LI is now gone
They moved LI and FF into the same node
Which means u lost LI
Cause you’ll never not take FF lol
mm
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
This is the problem with this type of talent tree
so
@clear pulsar what did the gyuilty guy say
You’re gonna piss off pve or pvp no matter how u adjust shit
I disagree puzzle. I think even for a "pve" change it makes no sense
about the moves and shit
Like it was just a flat out bad change
I don't know feral as much as some hardcore people in this discord but I could make some really good changes right now
I promise you that
LI and FF are not the same tier of ability
wdym pvers are also fucking furious cuz those are like 2 of the overall most liked abilities
Their logic is by buffing LI by 66% it is,
which obviously... I disagree with
no resto changes but resto was pretty solid
u dont know that for pve, but for ff burst ye
100% mf dmg wouldn't beat ff
Nope you are wrong on this one
I need a talent tree calculator
I wouldnt do it like that
wowhead pls update talent calculator
i agree in terms of flavor
Gimme Baby rake: Does rake's damage over time but baby version that would be the tooltip
i think MF is awful flavor for feral but wthagerver
whta are we looking at, 2-4% reduction in bleed dmg?
mmmm
Closer to 10%
Need a sim
It's all sets of ~5% and then also Circle
I think for pvp it's not as big though because veinripper buff no?
Oh lol they fucked up restos m+ build with keys I think with this change
cuz of circle nerf and 5%
well
Aoe sunfire is in narnia
the bonus damage is lowered by 5%, it's not a 5% dmg nerf
Yes hiwa but that's just 1 of the nerfs
ok so insteaad of 5% maybe its like 4% sure, point is its like a 7-10% nerf to bleeds
I liked bleeds 😦
meanwhile assa dots are wreaking havoc
well ur on extreme copium if u think for a second that rogue won't be nerfed
in the next week or so
wait
nvm
i was gonna say ciosts the same amount of points with new tree to get clone
its still -1
It costs 1 less just for clone, but same amount for dispel + clone
@clear pulsar waht if nurturing connected to the range inc
would that be busted
like if it connected to natural recovery
and the range
and we still have to take the brs dmg inc @clear pulsar
unfort
where is new tree?
nvm
wowhead is updated with PTR talent calc
they put one onwowhead but its not functional at all
when to press cenarion ward
Link?
Avenging Crusader now costs 5 Holy Power (was 50% of base mana), reduced cooldown to 45 seconds (was 2 minutes) and reduced duration to 12 seconds (was 20 seconds).
@viscid remnant
brb leveling pala
is tht melee wings
Also affliction got old MOP soul swap
Lol
Copy and paste dots is back
Dbl tap deleted
Oh they posted their reasonings behind the changes
You guys want a link?
Like each individual change logic
isaw lol
Nah I like these better actually lmao
perma melee wings time
its not a good tree, lets be honest
Can they pls buff rsham
Wheres LI
So i could play a healer that isnt boring
I can go anywhere. Just bc i have a difference of opinion doesnt mean i should be attacked for it.
Mattiu and pod
yea, im that good
Hahah

r u saying that just cuzc i died on primal council due to sum1 putting the electric shiat on me like 30 times?
Legendary
1 out of how many lol
it wsa 27
Best player getting best loot
TRUE
@stray sigil Can you link the scuffed calculator plz I cannot find it
gastank seeme to be saying some positive stuff
Idk I’ve renounced my chicken ways
Replacing circle for just 25% haste on dots is good
ur braain is much better wired for healer puzzle. Like u dont care about gear u dont care about parse so why play dps lol
Circle burning out your hots when u need it for mastery sounded so bad
like unironically
I think its trees/woe
Do these nodes actually lead to these other nodes? lol
@vestal citrus
Or is this visual scuffness
nvm it's visual I am dumb
Wait this general tree seems nuts for arena now
Unless corruption doesn't actually lead to cyclone
6% DR?
Thick hide
under ironfur
Left of wild charge
for Imp bark, Verdent heart, Natural recovery, PotP
Those are all options
not all at once
6dmgur
natural recovery/matted fur over 6% dr is def not good imo
how do u stop someone getting blown up as resto tho
how did you pick natural recovery lol
The thing is Fuji they're super easy to get 1 pointers connected to points we already get
doesnt work like that
oh u rite
Wasn't talking about thick hide
Saying u rite about natural recovery
I got lost in the sauce
Something like this, BUT not sure where to take other 1 point out of
to put into thick hide
If corruption doesn't lead to cyclone for real, that's actually so F'd
Forest walk?
How do you know? Also thank the lord
Can't it's fake news
To nurturing yes
cuz i do think they maklign it before nurturing ye
pack is low value node for us anyways
Fuji u taking forest walk?
doubt
😂
hadn't looked yet, i'm just looking now. got stuck in a minor incident
seems like a waste of 2 points
Fuck

That

hes stupid, but he's also fun
So the question becomes:
Matted fur? vs 1 point Thick Hide?
cuz i did like 150k dps on it lol
I'd say matted fur.
got like 65k overlal in thata one, my best so far
What do you think of the last build fuji
Also someone ping me when they update the feral side
I think with these changes + if other classes end up getting nerfed feral will be busted... Might be a hot take
I just can't imagine dying if other classes get nerfed and we get Verdant heart + PotP for free
Idk they keep on changing shit it’s annoying keeping up or thinking too much about it
Imma just queue
REAL
And forget about it
Yeah it'll resolve itself
Just kinda lame moving away from dots again
Even a 4-8%
It felt perfect where it was, not too much, not too little
Oh and losing LI lame
losing LI is hot garbage
how often do u press wild growth
Like never
Sometimes on innv
Against afflock I’ll use it with early spring
P sure a sotf regrowth cleaved properly with rampant growth is more hot healing than WG
not nerly as much healing as an invigorated lifebloomed nourish
But it’s a mastery stack
cenarion is much more preemptive isnt it
Swiftmend is your throughput. Make sure to always extend it when u can
Swiftmend NS or swiftmend casted regrowth is what’ll top
dude im 3-0 rn
im actually diff
never even touched this shit b4
LOL
the other evoker is also so bad
If say a WW has someone in a sweep and is popping , very generically I’d probably OG -> ironbark offGCD -> swiftmend. Then see if I have to NS
i like to hardcast RG, then overgrowth, then nourish, then lifebloom x3
ok i need to stop or sum1 is gonna read this chammel without context and get confused
Is invigorate bugged or is the spell not supposed to increase the healing of the rejuv / lifebloom?
@stray sigil
It resets your hots to max base duration 12 or 25s
Alright lol I picked it thinking wow what a neat talent
and then I noticed it's giga shit
Then hastes it 200%
what tf is noruish
So it does all the healing in 4s
Be mindful that extending invig hots in any way
Cancels the effect
does it just noit upgrade the tooltip then?
shows same tickrate
before and after invigorate
Do I shuffle pres?
is nourish a tlaent
are you playing invigorate?
or do u mean overgrowth
Puzzle?
Yes it is
sec
I hate HotW but it may be better than the build I linked before...
So:
🅰️ - 30 secs Well-honed Instincts + PotP
vs
🅱️ 3% DR + HotW
I'm running this but idk what is good atm
Fuck cat shit
oh im not playing nourish
Agreed, I think first tree is better
Starsurge is insta cast and can be casted in caster form now @signal arrow
what im playin
I like the move speed to kite
solo shuffle;
How the fuck do i counter pres evoker as resto
They just have like..
Everything
And hardly hardcast
Next question becomes:
Verdent Heart
vs
1 point thick hide (3% DR)
I'd say verdent heart
Its not that deep
also where do i make rake stun
Select talent do dmg
which is it did I not take it? 😮
i think
prevoker is v good against feral
from what i know
its like hpal
u just hold that and play around wat u can
whats my team dying button
Dispel doesnt lead to Nurturing / Cyclone that pathing doesnt exist.
Pod u are from ohio?
I think you guys are good
Thanks u too
no
W
Pod is from ohio or not
Where did you get this information?
Pod being from Ohio makes sense
I am getting conflicting information, I asked earlier
The blue post
No arrow yes?
Oh snap
?
we are F'd
Crazy stuff i know
You reckon that the time to give feedback is before the change goes live, when it's in TESTING yes?
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/en/wow/t/druid-updates-in-1005/1449132/27 upvote my feedback pls I want to cry
I need your little hearties
ur mom
ya'll so extra
So druids in shambles or?
is rating still required to fully upgrade conq gear?
hno
I honestly think this is overall a buff strength wise, but play style wise it's a nerf. The latter is subjective obviously
(PvP)
what pve item level does conq stuff cap out at?
In the rake
If it doesnt say it stuns then its bugged
And u need to swap to feral and back
Guardian player swapping resto cuz nerf?
Man i wonder where all the guardians are
They been a bit quiet recently
Every one who swapped to guardian for pvp is now onto the next abusable ridiculous thing. That‘s what made them play guardian in the first place
Maybe we arent too much, you're just too little.
Old age and working in an industry of scam artists, no energy to be passionate about your hobbies

did they get rid of rele?
damn
From trinket bonus and pvp boots
oh
F
Badge has crit
that is normal
and it was 60%
Pvp = normal

