pvp

[viscid remnant]

No

[tropic schooner]

naturally

but the idea is that leaving penalties stack up faster

[viscid remnant]

ye but how do u know that its a small minority of ppl spam leaving or just coincidence / unlucky

[tepid spoke]

because its too frequent

as an example in league

leaving is VERY rare

unless you are in mordor

[viscid remnant]

but u cant compare league to prepatch/beta

nobody gives a shit about rate in prepatch or beta

[tepid spoke]

sure can

league has leaver penalties

stacking longer queues

rating lose

different queue for leavers

[viscid remnant]

compare on df s1

now its sussy cus prepatch ppl dont care

[tepid spoke]

yea we'll see

[haughty compass]

isnt that what we will have?

league diff too tho, because if you win you get pts right?

if other team has a leaver

[tepid spoke]

u win less points

and the other team losses less points

like half

[haughty compass]

I just think you'd have so much win trading

if they gave you pts for leaving

enemy leaving*

[viscid remnant]

idk i would wait for s1 before coming to conclusions about leavers

the only ppl that care about prepatch rate is dh and affli abusers that are hardstuck 1.6 in any real season

[tepid spoke]

another dogshit thing

one frostmourne player

and auto xfered to australia servers

[viscid remnant]

na problem

[tepid spoke]

why do everyone have to adapt to them

i have 400 ping in aus

lmao

started qin at 11

completed 2 matches

[tropic schooner]

if you are consistency unlucky you still fuck up other games

and should be punished

[haughty compass]

Yea it’s annoying af

[lime light]

Pre patch is always fiesta

The only reason to Play it is, to check out how specs feels

Like log everything that u have on max lvl

And Play a game or two

Check talent trees and spellbook

In sl pre patch

Arms was a 1vs9 spec

Of he bleed u, it was over

[haughty compass]

Well said EP

[viscid remnant]

true

i logged 1 game on beta on disc

i confirmed its fun

dont need more

[haughty compass]

Kinda based

[grand mesa]

That’s my opinion. Like I know someone got fucked by his computer crashing multiple times and it sucks he lost rating. But also that means system is working cause it’s 0’ing out the game for the 5 other people who’s not crashing

[lime light]

Truerers

[haughty compass]

Yea I think the current system should work pretty good

[grand mesa]

Just need disincentive for just leaving if u can’t be asked and hopping on another toon to play

[tepid spoke]

penalty account wide

also diff q for leavers

[grand mesa]

Do u like name@plate colors matty

I might try it again

For friendly

[haughty compass]

I’m about to bring my laptop in the garage and honor grind while I lift

Real degen

[viscid remnant]

@tepid spoke give ur evoker build

I wanna test later

[tepid spoke]

level sixty?

[viscid remnant]

70

Need for beta

[tepid spoke]

oh

sec

[junior plover]

Buff feral

I'm at the vet

He said to buff feral

I think he knows his shit

[grand mesa]

Lmao kiosk

[junior plover]

U don't believe me look

Brought my feral

[tepid spoke]

nice

he said buff feral?

bis

[viscid remnant]

puta

give 70 evoker build

[livid wasp]

are you a dragon andy now

[viscid remnant]

no

i just wanna test it

@tepid spoke KURWA GIVE BUILD

[tepid spoke]

W8 BISH

[viscid remnant]

ty

[tepid spoke]

u got lots of flexible points

depending on build

i mean

comp

[potent scaffold]

anyone know how the set a tooltip for both talents in this macro? shits so aids /cast [known:Mighty Bash] Mighty Bash; [known:Incapacitating Roar] Incapacitating Roar

[grand mesa]

#showtooltip
/cast [known:Mighty Bash] Mighty Bash; [known:Incapacitating Roar] Incapacitating Roar

What’s the issue

Works fine

There’s a quirk where the icon doesn’t become dynamic sometimes

So go to icon settings

And click the red ? Icon again

[potent scaffold]

ah

oh thanks wtf i was like why isnt the icon changing when i change the talent

works after u said reclick the question mark

thanks alot g

[pallid temple]

What wrong with ppl these day?
Play solo shuffle 1 round then leave

[safe heart]

is it tank shuffles

oh wait those arent a thing now

[pallid temple]

No

[safe heart]

if someone is super undergeared i could see just leaving

[haughty compass]

Healer shuffle Qs just that much faster?

I think I get 1800 next round, and i'll just shuffle as healer to get honor

[leaden bridge]

any feral pvp talent builds ?

[safe heart]

its good to be a mf king

[haughty compass]

carrying

coo, got 1.8 in 2s

but why this honor grind so shitty

[safe heart]

BACK2BACk

[haughty compass]

edgelord

[tepid spoke]

how u make it show shoes

[haughty compass]

Those are stock shoes

[tepid spoke]

o

[grand mesa]

Pins

Can also ask @stray sigil

[haughty compass]

I think I got a beta invite yesterday

Lmao

[grand mesa]

Grats on playing ranged feral. But better 😂

[safe heart]

TRU

[grand mesa]

I’m sure ur already comfy with 45s go’s 😂

[safe heart]

VERY

[grand mesa]

Shadowplay felt really good btw

Rewatched some of the vod

[safe heart]

yeah i mean its a solid caster zug
get all the lock benefits

synergizes well with rdruid too imo

[grand mesa]

Ya felt p good. At 70 will feel better cause I can actually do dam

Only gripe is that clone is always on DR

Mass entangle deep roots was p bis tho

If I had my moonfire/surge setup that Shaman would have been dead like the 4-5 times he was at 3-7% on enigma crucible against the thunder

[safe heart]

yeah double down on roots prob best

[grand mesa]

They didn’t break that fast with you and lock dots right?

Didn’t look it

[edgy shale]

feral druid ia good

did funi type today or did u guys kill his spirit and soul?

[safe heart]

i dont think it lets us like pump dam while rooted but like

i can get some casts off

[edgy shale]

[safe heart]

but like im also casting like mind blast and mind spikes and DPs

so

[lime light]

dogshit flying ape class

[safe heart]

the dps q's are fast today

like 5m

[grand mesa]

Probably o flux of new class that can heal

I hate that

Small streamers

Look. I just wanted to follow so I can type in chat so I can use your commands to figure out your UI or your build I don’t actually want to talk

Lol

[safe heart]

i mean they gotta engage their audience

some ppl wont watch ur stream if you dont interact

[grand mesa]

Yeah ig

[tropic schooner]

SAME

fuck that

I hate it

[safe heart]

do healers in shuffle actually think for even 1 second ima trust them to save me

[tropic schooner]

ive even had streams where they had all viewers as small man with names in their stream

thats an absolute nightmare

[grand mesa]

Haha I had that for a bit

The little Pokémon stuff

Bouncing around at bottom

That was fun

Cba to boot it up every time tho thru steam

[tepid spoke]

I just let you use all your shit

Before i use mine

[grand mesa]

Did David leave

@viscid remnant

[viscid remnant]

wat

[grand mesa]

Ok found him. I had to scroll down

[tepid spoke]

Yea on phone ots weird

[viscid remnant]

aye caramba

[grand mesa]

Your sub might be active this weekend

[tepid spoke]

Caramba

Are you mexican

[viscid remnant]

wdym by that

might be

ah

[safe heart]

this mw

[viscid remnant]

3 days of prepatchj

XD

i guess thats notbad

could level chars

[safe heart]

is acting like he styled on me

cuz our healer has 50k hp

[viscid remnant]

but what is this

today is the 17

and it says innactive

SUSSSY

[tepid spoke]

Man

I feel like evoker might be the strongest healer

Insane mobility

Insane hots

The most broken external in all game

70% stagger on a 1 min cd

[viscid remnant]

BRUV this shiat

[tepid spoke]

Decent cc and really good damage specially with tier

[viscid remnant]

loading forever

[safe heart]

they also have some type of spell reflect shit

and cc immunity

[viscid remnant]

NA and wotlk

at the same time

gg

[tepid spoke]

Whats the spell reflect

Uuuh

Am i dumb

[safe heart]

i have no idea

but i played against an evoker that was spell reflecting my shit

[viscid remnant]

what do on na

[safe heart]

like my healer wold press fear and itd fear my team instead

[viscid remnant]

during the 3days finish level sham+monk+hpal ?

[tepid spoke]

I dont see any spell reflect

Maybe im blind or smth

[safe heart]

i mean

is there a dk ability like that

cuz it was dk / pres

[tepid spoke]

Dark sym?

[safe heart]

no idea

[safe heart]

hm

maybe

cuz like

i was getting cloned and feared

[tepid spoke]

Sounds more like it

Pres doesnt have a reflect

[tepid spoke]

Rofl

That name

[viscid remnant]

bis team

i can log murica later

for some gaming

[safe heart]

@stray sigil

[grand mesa]

Waow

Feral looks great

[safe heart]

that was a skirm lol

[tepid spoke]

3x6x225 bench

@haughty compass

Do i go 4

[grand mesa]

I’m curious how you think Feral shadow feels in 3s enji

[safe heart]

ive played against it a couple times and it feels strong

but

hard to say how it does on the ladder ig uess

[grand mesa]

I’m sure it’ll feel great tbh cause fuji diff

[tepid spoke]

Only did 3 on the 4th

[grand mesa]

Also u know feral very well so

[tepid spoke]

😦

[grand mesa]

U probably know what fuji wants to do

[tepid spoke]

[safe heart]

i think it could be good

[tepid spoke]

I think im evo main

This ssn

Break from dru

Kinda bored of the gameplay since its been the same for like 6 years

[grand mesa]

Traj

And then there was 1

[pallid temple]

Evoker burst is nut

[grand mesa]

I will be the last druid pvping as druid In the druid pvp discord

[pallid temple]

Instant 50-100k

[tepid spoke]

I really like hot based healers

And only evo is one rn

Mw too i guess but its sleeper af

[grand mesa]

Is that also for pve?

[tepid spoke]

Na

Pve pres is tragic

[grand mesa]

They’re p good in keys

Idk about raid

[tepid spoke]

Afk healing gameplay as rdru

[clear pulsar]

We'll stand together against all odds

[tepid spoke]

In arena

[clear pulsar]

Epic

[tepid spoke]

Is so boring for@me

And u cant realy push in

U get turbo fucked

[safe heart]

@haughty compass

[tepid spoke]

As pres you can be in the middle of the shit and get out so ez

[grand mesa]

Idk I think rdru might be more active than it’s ever been compared to SL

[tepid spoke]

You still gota stay 45y away tho

[grand mesa]

Protector surge and if u boomie aff u can still go for long clones. 1 pt for rake. Idk.

[tepid spoke]

Yea go for a rake and never get out

Go for a deepbreath stun + sleep walk get out with trascendance

3 hovers

2 breaths

So much shit

[grand mesa]

I’ll def have an evoker alt imma play but

Rdru for life

MW alt too Ig

[haughty compass]

Enji

we were undefeated

@safe heart

[safe heart]

EZ

CLAP

[haughty compass]

stick to progam idk

the dk didnt want the smoke

[maiden viper]

as a returning s2 player

what do I spend cosmic flux on

[clear pulsar]

At this point its only useful for leggos and transmog

[maiden viper]

conduits?

[clear pulsar]

Oh true the 278 10k flux item exists

[maiden viper]

hmm probably needs rep

[clear pulsar]

Its in oribos, left side of the enclave

Dont need rep

On the covenant emissaries to the left of where you pick a covenant

[maiden viper]

oh

10k flux you say?

I mean it's just a couple of weeks but

might as well I guess

[clear pulsar]

And you can turn regular items into the tier equivalent which doesnt do anything except for transmog now

Good to collect mog

[maiden viper]

ait ait

thanks

back to getting my ass absolutely blasted wearing 246 s2 duelist gear

as healer

[safe heart]

rele and sephuz stack dont they

right

[haughty compass]

Healing is scary

[grand mesa]

It’s either rele and sephuz or orc and sephuz

I don’t remember

[viscid remnant]

only orc and sephuz

notsure how it is with trinket shiat

rele dont stack with seph or orc

[haughty compass]

Healer Qs are the move man

[edgy shale]

davide r hoin my giulder

[chilly arch]

Anyone have a Feral PvP build I can play with?

Play as in...use as a building point.

[grand mesa]

Pins

[chilly arch]

Which channel? Feral?

[grand mesa]

This one

[chilly arch]

There are only two pins

[grand mesa]

Oh

[chilly arch]

One from 2020 and one from 2019

[grand mesa]

It’s gone

Lulz

[chilly arch]

[grand mesa]

Yeah idk then

[chilly arch]

No worries

[edgy shale]

wait, why is it gone?

[clear pulsar]

For prepatch I'm playing this as kyrian, can swap swarm and CI over to other stuff if you're necro

[grand mesa]

I suspect a certain someone was petty

[edgy shale]

[safe heart]

just enjoy bis prepatch build imo

[grand mesa]

Only people who hate themselves play like it’s DF in prepatch

[clear pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/dentedhead-speech-bubble-hldmbrnet-gif-25216740

Puzle pls

You're always ruining my gifs

[edgy shale]

im not even sure if u mean t-dog deletd them, or fuji went back and deleted his own posts

[grand mesa]

I was intentionally vague lol

[clear pulsar]

I dont even know what enji is mocking lol he's the one complaining about lack of dmg

I am blaaaaasting these games

[grand mesa]

Why are you assuming he’s mocking

[safe heart]

was just saying use ur prepatch build

[grand mesa]

He’s giving advice he himself prefers not to do

Because it’s better for a person just coming in and asking

[safe heart]

like dont worry about the pinned one

just use faces

[clear pulsar]

What advice?

[grand mesa]

To use your build and play for prepatch

[tepid spoke]

Feral pin removed

[edgy shale]

[clear pulsar]

Ye idk brother i feel mocked

[grand mesa]

I’m not entirely sure what’s difficult about this

[clear pulsar]

But I don't see how you could play any different of a build

[edgy shale]

[tepid spoke]

You know what i like about evoker prepatch

You dont have shit that breaks ur gameplay

It plays the same as 70

[grand mesa]

Isn’t dps evokers enjoying the cov ability for bigger go’s

[safe heart]

the whole feral tree sux so

[grand mesa]

That generic stat boost

[safe heart]

yeah p much

[tepid spoke]

Yea but it doesnt change anything

You can play flourish and verdant rn

[grand mesa]

Yeah

[clear pulsar]

Idk I think the feral tree is really good

The class tree I think sucks

[viscid remnant]

Not pveing

I had my fill of pve from classical

Dont need more

[edgy shale]

that isn't even pver thats afk

and yea i tihnk we all agree the druid class tree is horrendous

[grand mesa]

I don’t love it but it’s p tolerable for resto. Can see why ferals hate it though

[edgy shale]

pver as healer in classic sounds like the most boring thing in the pl anet

u can't even have mighty basher and incap roar now

its a downgrade from before in like all ways

meanwhile other specs get extra shiat

[tepid spoke]

Can get mass roots or vortex tho

[grand mesa]

I gained protector and caster form star surge. And ability to frenzy regen while having boomkin range or Kitty shit. It’s not great but I don’t feel like it’s absolute tragedy. I still want it to be better

[edgy shale]

INSTACAST CASTER FORM STARSURGE

or is resto's already in stant?

that is true ig

[grand mesa]

Ours was casted

Unless In hotw

In SL

[edgy shale]

ye same

[grand mesa]

Which you’d never take

[edgy shale]

so i guess that is kind of nice?

for resto

[grand mesa]

Ya

We had like negative dam at ranged in SL while I watched rshams routinely fling lava bursts. We have similar now

[edgy shale]

does rsham have thier EQ on ele as a talent

and u could also take kick if u rea lly wanted

[grand mesa]

Actually not sure. Don’t think so tho. Don’t recall lontar running it

It’s so expensive for kick. It might be the resto’s version of feral going for clone

[edgy shale]

well yea, thats good design honestly. U shouldn't be able to get kick easily as resto

[grand mesa]

Probably good in 2s tho

[edgy shale]

u need to get the 3 physical node

but like its there if u really want it

[grand mesa]

I wish we had a bit more connections and no 3 pointers

[edgy shale]

yea

i think the single most tragic thing in the entire tree is feral needing to take 3 worthless throughput points to get clone

so actually sutypid

[grand mesa]

Then I could live with this tree. Even tho cap roar and bash being on same node and other head scratchers still exist

[edgy shale]

idk, i think i prefer incap to bash

its so dam nice being able to get MFs off u and get a free clone in the process

even tho fuji says NO UR BAD when i say that

[grand mesa]

Yeah I’ve never took bash once

I spent most of the end of s3 playing mass entangle anyway

[viscid remnant]

I tried boomy a few raids but i would rather be afk than tryhard

[grand mesa]

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1ss68ib

High up CN wow guys

Explanation of blizz and China

[viscid remnant]

Cool

Ill clixk when i am chinese

[edgy shale]

davider bne nice

[tepid spoke]

Why

Other healers dont need 7 points for kick

Evoker needs 1

20yard kick

[edgy shale]

which i'd say is bad design. Healers in wow have been balanced around not having kick for ages, so having to give something up for it makes sense to me

except resto

who was balaaanced around having a kick

[tepid spoke]

Well u dont know what they want to balance healers as

They just

Revamped all classes xd

[edgy shale]

and giving healers a kick could end up being a mistake, who knows yet ig. But i still think it makes design sense to have to give something up for such a strong effect

[grand mesa]

I’m not entirely sure how I feel about utility in trees yet

And how it’ll play out for raid / keys

Guess I have to see

[viscid remnant]

Pvoker has kick

Wtf

[grand mesa]

Are they all like that?

[edgy shale]

getting a clone off now

[grand mesa]

My MW buddy said kick was pretty accessible

[edgy shale]

[grand mesa]

Idk about the others

I hope when class tree rework

Rdru gets solar beam

Thanks

[edgy shale]

its so sus to put feral kikc in the tree and not bommy kick

WATF

solar beam should be where clone currently is, and clone should be baseline

[viscid remnant]

mw kick is like

the most free thing ever

[edgy shale]

how tf are casters even gonna cast

[viscid remnant]

its melee range

which melee is oging to sit on casters

XD

[haughty compass]

I’ve sealed so many wins with a evoker dash and kick to sleep

Basically a pro healer

[edgy shale]

wdym davider

[viscid remnant]

which mw

will go to melee range

to kick wizards

its r worded

[edgy shale]

the ones who wanted interrupt and kill everyone bruh

[viscid remnant]

ye

with what dmg

[edgy shale]

just like hpals go in horse in and drop fat stuns

u go in

stun sum1

kick anothe

gg

[viscid remnant]

feed

[edgy shale]

u need to watch more miestro

[viscid remnant]

hpal and mw

not the same

[haughty compass]

Druid class tree is such a joke

[edgy shale]

true, mw can just run in, kikc, thern transcendence, FREE

[tepid spoke]

Pretty sure they arent

Just druid got the L

[grand mesa]

Priest didn’t get silence

[tepid spoke]

Cause it was the first tree

Ah yea priest is weird af

[grand mesa]

It’s fine they’ll revisit us eventually

[tepid spoke]

Yea in 11.0

[edgy shale]

pries doesnt get a kick?

thats good

[tepid spoke]

When they add a new row

[grand mesa]

This is new blizzard

We will get frequent iteration and tuning!

And then I woke up

[edgy shale]

idk, i saw an interview that confirms that p much won't happen in pvp

it was like..we plan on doing consistent tuning into DF, especially in early mythic weeks. Except for ppv, we like to let a meta settle before making direct changes

its like BRO FUCK YOU

[tepid spoke]

They just rushed shit for talent treees

At least early ones like druid

[edgy shale]

https://tenor.com/view/benitwt-gif-22390519

[tepid spoke]

They took all spells we already had? Add some cov spels and legos spells and throw them in the mix

“Fresh new content”

[edgy shale]

they basically confirm balance updates for pve, in small doses

but then say...oh pvp?

there's a real SEASONAL BOUNDARY? as they call it

can't make changes ig

cuz of the SEASONAL INTEGRITY

[tropic schooner]

no they did not?

they said early on there are some changes and then a longer period with 0 changes

and how they do release now how they do it cause before they did not balance change during mythic progress

[edgy shale]

wdym? it says in the bottom of the 2nd thing i posted that they're keeping an eye regarding additional pver changes after the initial weeks, meanwhile pvp is like confirmed to not

but regardless i feel like pvp needs it more than pver

most of the time anyway

[tropic schooner]

correct because they nececarly have to happen

thats what it says

its literally impossible not to do it cause of hc and mythic release

I do think they should balance a bit more agressivly in pvp too, but not as agressivly as in games like league imo

but pve does not balance agressivly either

[edgy shale]

pver balance they usually balance up cuz u don't wanna fuck over prog, but yea i like pvp balance should be much more aggressive. It doesn't need to be every 2 weeks like league, but letting war be op for like 9 months like in 9.0 thats not ok

[safe heart]

If you think about it pve barely needs to be balanced really

[tropic schooner]

what

[edgy shale]

yea they usually just balance up the specs or nerf down the bosses

[safe heart]

Like in pve ur all on the same team working cohesively anyway

[edgy shale]

its not like its as much of a relationship between the interactions of the specs

[tropic schooner]

sorry but thats absolute bullshit

[safe heart]

Pvp balance way more important

I would say

[tropic schooner]

disagreed

pve balance is more important

cause they are more likely to go away

[safe heart]

But why

[tropic schooner]

we play pvp anyway

[safe heart]

But like

[tropic schooner]

but without the meme answer

[safe heart]

In pvp when something is unbalanced it directly interferes with me progresing

[tropic schooner]

I dont know whats more important both are imo

same as in pve

yes

if stuff is more broken you can lose your raidspot for example/get pressured into playing something you dont want

same as in pvp

[safe heart]

But in pve if surv is broken it just means when a surv apps to my group he carries

[tropic schooner]

or you dont raid

cause hes in

also the more relevant part for both pvp and pve

is how you feel

and it feels shit to do way less dmg compared to someone else

same as it feels shit to not be able to get the same rating as others

[safe heart]

Even my brother who exclusively tanks m+

Was like

[tropic schooner]

simply because they play the better class

[safe heart]

Like if dh is broken beyond all belief in pvp

I basically auto lose to dh

But if dh is broken beyond all belief in pve

You just are happy that one applied to ur key right

[tropic schooner]

no

thats an insanly reductive idea

with that argument wouldnt you be happy to play with a dh in pvp too?

[safe heart]

I mean yeah
Ie kitty cleave

Kitty cleave was exactly that pretty much

Getting carried by broken spec

[tropic schooner]

but just because you benefit from something being broken

doesnt mean its good

and there is the other situatio

where you try to join the key

but you arent the broken dh

you cant join

because they want the dh

and you are a shit feral

who no one wants

[safe heart]

Such is life

[edgy shale]

[safe heart]

Eh I mean

I see your point

That makes sense

[tropic schooner]

for the record

I 100% agree pvp especially should be updated more often

balance wise

like mid season updates

which push stuff some amount

[safe heart]

It just feels worse to have a dh slaughter you every time you queue into it vs joining a group and then the dh just does the most dmg

[tropic schooner]

nothing major like I wouldnt wanna have that DH in the season its good be absolutely gutted

but a tiny amount

(however pre patch obviously is absolutely irrelevant)

[safe heart]

^^

[tropic schooner]

so the balance right now is not to consider what so ever

[edgy shale]

i like the idea of like monthly or maybe every 2 months changes where stuff gets adjusted, but not necessarily to a meta breaking degree. Just enough to get some people interested in coming back mid season. Just something to look forward to if ur annoyed with the current meta

[safe heart]

Yeah I am trying to keep that in mind

[edgy shale]

ppl just quit after a month or less, and don't come back for a year

[tropic schooner]

pre patch is ALWAYS every single time without exception

a cluster fuck

which makes it fun imo

because its not relevant for titles or anything and its hilariously stupid

[grand mesa]

@safe heart the difference with pve is is that the players do their pvp at the LFG window and guild roster spot level

[tropic schooner]

I remember cata prepatch

when they buffed resilience

[grand mesa]

They’re fighting for their spot

[tropic schooner]

and I went like full resilience gearing and was near unkillable on my ret

[grand mesa]

And if you’re pure LFG m+er

Being an off meta clsss when survival and destro are cranking

Does in fact ruin your day

[tropic schooner]

not only that

even if you are in a pre made group

[safe heart]

Yeah it was kinds hard to get groups on my mw lol

[tropic schooner]

you tend to be competetive to push keys

[edgy shale]

idk, i do feel like for the vast majority of people raiding in wow ur not really fighting for urr spot. Like the most people by far raid normal, and i doubt they're looking for much. I think the 'normal raider' variant of pvper should be catered to

[tropic schooner]

and you feel like (because you are) that you hold your group back by playing off meta stuff

and that feeling is shit

[grand mesa]

Yeah we always play off meta

But I know if we played on meta it’d be worth a key level or so

[edgy shale]

theres like what...1-2k mythic raiding guilds anda there's like 50k normal ones

or something

[grand mesa]

I mean for us ipod

[edgy shale]

[grand mesa]

Not being an idiot and showing up every raid night

Is worth more than class 😂😂😂😂

Like mid low end CE

[edgy shale]

yea, im just trying to make te point that for a vast majority of casual players it prob feels a lot worse to get mauled by a broken dh/warrior in pvp, versus worrying about optmizing pve (which no1 they play with does)

[grand mesa]

But no arguments from me that pvp should be more frequently tuned imo

Demo/destro being strong in raids and keys

[edgy shale]

like i see what enji is saying

[grand mesa]

Did not affect me

Nearly as much as

Afflock did to me

The last 6 months

In arena

[edgy shale]

exactly

[safe heart]

Yeah thats what I mean

I fully see the parallel but still

No amount of friendship and social engineering is going to stop aff locks from raping you at 1400

[grand mesa]

Ya

[edgy shale]

r-word

[grand mesa]

I don’t think

We should wait for as long as we did

For echoing resolve nerf

And destro tier set

[edgy shale]

they shoulda never nerfed it for feral

[safe heart]

Echoing resolve Era was probably the most absurd thing I've seen in pvp

Esp after they buffed it lmao

It had 1 outplay and they removed it and then let every frostmage with hands get 2500

[grand mesa]

At the same time

Frost mage shouldn’t have disappeared off the face of the earth either post nerf

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/floppa-based-derbo-flerbo-w2resell-gif-20150306

[edgy shale]

I'll literally throw a party that ur all invited to

if fire stays bad for all of 10.0

IT NEVER DOES THOUGH

[safe heart]

Arcane is good now lol

Or seems like it

@grand mesa that dk is wpvp discord said he was playing arcane dk with raiku

Wonder if we played them last nkght

[edgy shale]

arcane is goat

thinking about making it my alt again

the mana is ucking annoying in pve sometimes though

[grand mesa]

That mage missed DB ring

No shot that it was raiku

LOL

[safe heart]

Hahahaha

[grand mesa]

Think they’re both EU anyway

[safe heart]

Oh okay

Just was such an oddly specific comp

Unethical for sure

[grand mesa]

Ya

That dk tho

Refused to die

[safe heart]

Was very annoying

Any class that tries to win a 1v3 needs a nerf

[edgy shale]

[gloomy token]

[viscid remnant]

2am

0 food

Iam starving

Do i send some sussy ramen

[edgy shale]

no

just do WG

[viscid remnant]

Thats sussy

Fuckit

[edgy shale]

slam that shiat davider

[viscid remnant]

Seasoning packet smells like fishfood

Im dead

Insta fish smell

Gg

[edgy shale]

gg....

[clear pulsar]

Why dont you eat real food

https://tenor.com/view/khabib-nurmagomedov-gif-11561460

[viscid remnant]

theres no food

nothing 2 eat

[fair mirage]

Rice, lentils, chicken

[viscid remnant]

ye

let me summon some chicken and lentils from thin air

at 2 am

[safe heart]

Conjured mana buns

@viscid remnant what is pepetyping gif called

[viscid remnant]

idk

https://tenor.com/view/smadging-pepe-smadging-gif-26061387

this ?

[safe heart]

No

https://tenor.com/view/nerding-speech-bubble-pepe-nerd-gif-26077806

Nerding speech bubble

[viscid remnant]

ah i thought u wanted the angry one

this u just type pepenerd i think

https://tenor.com/view/nerding-speech-bubble-pepe-nerd-gif-26077806

[safe heart]

Pras

[edgy shale]

https://tenor.com/view/nerding-speech-bubble-pepe-nerd-gif-26077806

[tepid spoke]

Man nice gameee

[viscid remnant]

mattiu what are u doing atm

[tepid spoke]

Dispeled 2 ua got hit 120k

[viscid remnant]

u are on beta

or retail

[tepid spoke]

Reta

Why

[viscid remnant]

that doesnt give me an answer

is that short for retail

or beta with r

XD

[tepid spoke]

Retail

[viscid remnant]

what stats do i play on shitvoker

[tepid spoke]

Crit

[viscid remnant]

sus

[tepid spoke]

Mas good too

Reversion extends on crit

[viscid remnant]

so which

[tepid spoke]

Crit procs 4p

I play both

50/50

[edgy shale]

sus

there is no 4p yet

[tepid spoke]

He said beta

[viscid remnant]

ipod cant read

normal

[tepid spoke]

4p big dam

And big heals

[edgy shale]

HOW

[tepid spoke]

Procs on reversion crits

[edgy shale]

THts not even whay u guys said u krek hedss

[viscid remnant]

iam putting my full trust

in ur build mattiu

if it sucks i will root u out

[tepid spoke]

Its bid

Bis

U kno gameplay

?

[viscid remnant]

no

now that i have tree

i will read all spells

cuz iam bored

[tepid spoke]

Read golden hour

[edgy shale]

what spec does the bronze thing help most

for mage os it blink?

its kinda dog shit for druid

[tepid spoke]

Dh

[viscid remnant]

what is that

icant see that in spellbook

[tepid spoke]

Takes off 2 sec on fell rush

Talent

[viscid remnant]

o ok

i see

[edgy shale]

wat do they get

what even is that

[viscid remnant]

so its like

[edgy shale]

????????????????

[viscid remnant]

after they spam take damgur u pop that

[edgy shale]

viruses?

[viscid remnant]

for free heal

it doesnt wanna

show the image

for some reason

[tepid spoke]

Spam echo

[viscid remnant]

golden shower

[tepid spoke]

Reversion on echo puts 2 reversion hot

[edgy shale]

so basiucally bronze buff

gives dh throughput is wat ur saying?

[tepid spoke]

Procs golden hour twice

[clear pulsar]

@tepid spoke show build

[viscid remnant]

DRACARYS

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-gif-20802616

[tepid spoke]

Show build davidrr

[viscid remnant]

man i have 0 binds

its over

this shiat ?

[edgy shale]

DRACARYS!

[tepid spoke]

U can chanhe things around

[viscid remnant]

ok i have to press on

and unfiak up my UI

against all odds

then snipe me on beta

so i get fast queue

[edgy shale]

why play beta like a piglet?

[viscid remnant]

dont have dragon on other than beta

[edgy shale]

davider is oinker

[viscid remnant]

u wanna buy me dragonflgithj

i will log retai

if not shut up

ty

[edgy shale]

i told u

we need to make a gofundme

ill donat some

[viscid remnant]

am i blind

[fair mirage]

sus

[viscid remnant]

or there is no dif

between female and male dragon

XD ?

[fair mirage]

ya sexually ambiguous dragon

[viscid remnant]

its the same

lol

[fair mirage]

unironically probably budget cuts

[viscid remnant]

i need to remake my dragon

its too ugly

[fair mirage]

no other classes, no mog, etc

[safe heart]

How to get beta conduit 2v2 guide

[edgy shale]

How to get beta conduit 2v2 guide

[tepid spoke]

U cant recustom ur drag on barber?

[viscid remnant]

this is what i call the shekelsniffer

[edgy shale]

he looks like cum

[viscid remnant]

wtf

iam allowed to say that

[edgy shale]

davider and I are very jewish we can call ppl jew n stuff

[viscid remnant]

u are fake new

jew

not even live in israel

any truers

[tepid spoke]

Yea its like me saying u are homo

[viscid remnant]

🤬

[tepid spoke]

Cause sometimes u guys are homo ngl

[viscid remnant]

man i can finally play

1hand offhand

on this class

any TRUERS

GOD BLESS AMERICA

[tepid spoke]

Aluh akbar

[edgy shale]

i can call people jew homos

[clear pulsar]

I think Stasis is rly good

[edgy shale]

and t-dog can't STOP ME

cuz i am that things

[clear pulsar]

Bottom right capstone

[viscid remnant]

all criticism to mattiu

idont know what anything does

[tepid spoke]

Stasis is good

dream flight is a escape

As i said

You can change ur build

Depending on what

You dream flight away from being trained

Melee chase you

[viscid remnant]

what tier u play

everything but head i assume ?

[tepid spoke]

You recall bak

Idk dont remember

Didnt min max that much honestly

[viscid remnant]

all of them have either versa crit or mast

head has haste

i have 0 haste

why avoid haste

monkaW

[tepid spoke]

You dont really cast

[edgy shale]

isnt ur GCD fuckd tho?

[tepid spoke]

At all

[viscid remnant]

spam instants like an ape ?

i like that

[tepid spoke]

Yes

[edgy shale]

i hate long GCD

[tepid spoke]

Yea same

I actually play some haste

[viscid remnant]

long gcd is fine

u can afk inbetween gcds

[tepid spoke]

To get comfy gcd

[edgy shale]

i like how cat form is locked at 1 second GCD

[viscid remnant]

man its fiaked up

i need to make binds from 0

legit duno what every spell does

gg

[tepid spoke]

Also if you play stasis

You cant take 30% increase on dream breath

Whic is like

2nd heal

[viscid remnant]

what is the kick

[edgy shale]

i hate making bindings

its so annoying lol

[tepid spoke]

Quell

[edgy shale]

u should just steal someeones

I CAN SAY JEW HOMO

JESUS GAVE ME TH RIGHT

[viscid remnant]

40 range

imean

40sec cd

monka

so whats like

the normal button u spam

like for example holy shock on hpal

etc

living flame?

[edgy shale]

davider

u should just

steal sum1's else UI

and leearn from that

then just switch it around

[viscid remnant]

nah my UI is fine

[edgy shale]

instead of start from 0

[viscid remnant]

i need to put buttons where binds are

[edgy shale]

i just means how the buttons are placed

[viscid remnant]

nah i go from 0

cuz iam built like that

[edgy shale]

ur oinker

GG

[viscid remnant]

ramen fueling me

ihave strength

[edgy shale]

more legeendary than ev

[viscid remnant]

its ez as piss

1 is flame 2 is echo 3 is reverbiration

wtf this class has bloodlust

sussy

[edgy shale]

yea

everyone has lust these days

very sus

and everyone gets b rez now too

[viscid remnant]

wdym by every1

every healer class

or what

sketchy

[edgy shale]

no, not evryone

just paly

[viscid remnant]

mf u said everyone

make up ur mind

[edgy shale]

IT WAS EXAGGERATION

[viscid remnant]

explain

[edgy shale]

druid, lock, dk, paly

is that it?

i forget

wait, ru sure evoker gtes a brez?

u mighta just saw the normal rez tho

[viscid remnant]

this class makes 0 sense

on god

[edgy shale]

but not sure

[viscid remnant]

nah u off the crek

i think

cuz i look at spellbook

i see nothin

off on a trip to penjamin city

dabbington city

shall we

what is empower spell

like the charger shiat

so the wombo combo is u go like

echo into reversion into dream breath or spiritbloom @tepid spoke

true or true

idk glyph

ye

wtf iam not a damgur player

[tepid spoke]

echo into rev into echo into dream breath

4 hots

echo + bloom good too

[viscid remnant]

5head

[tepid spoke]

tip the scales on fire breath to purge 5 buff

[viscid remnant]

u ever press emerald blossom

seems like a pve ability

[tepid spoke]

almost never

yea

[viscid remnant]

ye its like eflo on rdr

[tepid spoke]

it heals you insta

when you press it

but thats about it

better to use essence on echo imo

priests pi's

tip the scales fire breath

[viscid remnant]

this class easy as piss

[tepid spoke]

purge the pi

[viscid remnant]

i alrdy understand

[tepid spoke]

ye

[viscid remnant]

all of the class

[tepid spoke]

ye its pretty ez