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fair mirage
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also half the specs in the game can reliably or semi-reliably get out of it

grand mesa
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Yeah that was conclusion I came to

fair mirage
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it kind of becomes a game of YOU know that you want to chaarge bolt spear

grand mesa
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Trying to aim it on moving target. I don’t think it “latches” the moment u drop it

fair mirage
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but the priest if not covered WILL grip the bolt

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so you bolt early then aim spear at priest and spear both

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or at least the bolted target if the priest grips too fast (and the stun doesn't expire before you have the chance to throw the spear)

stray sigil
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@grand mesa do they keep the random lay on hands demon in df

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the dhs

grand mesa
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Yeah they have fodder

stray sigil
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XD!

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shit xpac

grand mesa
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But u have protector

stray sigil
grand mesa
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🤗

stray sigil
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is it nerfd in any way

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or its the exact same

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as live

grand mesa
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Idk id have to ask my dh

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Idk why you hate the fodder heal so much

stray sigil
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?>

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u mean why do i hate random procs of loh

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???

grand mesa
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It’s not LOH tho

stray sigil
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?????????????????????????????????????

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bro its like a 40k + heal

haughty compass
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My buddy has gone from priest to rogue to shaman to mage to warrior to dh

stray sigil
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its effectively loh

haughty compass
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Every single bad Q session he rerolls

safe heart
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i have a friend like that

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he gets 1 shot
rerolls to taht

haughty compass
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I hate it

safe heart
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gets one shot again

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rerolls again

grand mesa
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P sure it’s effected by damp and that’s gonna be more prominent anyway idk

stray sigil
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random heals that crit for like 60k

haughty compass
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Double dps might be kinda real again

stray sigil
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is not good for the game

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period

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also gives em 30% dmg inc

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like

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lmfao

haughty compass
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Non hybrid healing is so out of hand last couple expacs

stray sigil
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they legit can heal more than me

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if they have good rng

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which they all seem to have

grand mesa
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Yea idk

stray sigil
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ur def a bit biased on this one i think

grand mesa
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I was just gonna say

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Maybe I’m alittle biased

stray sigil
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theres no way thats balanced

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or good for the game

grand mesa
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I think blur is more problematic

stray sigil
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tyhe whole class is problematic

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its ooga booga 0 iq

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and has everything

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for no reason

grand mesa
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It’s a hero class

stray sigil
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the easier the class the less shit they should have

grand mesa
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🤣

haughty compass
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I actually think evoker is pretty straight forward. The dps spec anyway

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“Advanced”

grand mesa
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They’re taking away divine and conquer

surreal heron
grand mesa
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Rejoice

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Atleast temporarily

haughty compass
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I think it said something about the art not being ready

grand mesa
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Yeah

haughty compass
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For the non rushed xpac

stray sigil
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idk imagine bm hunter

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had all the tools and shit

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that dh had

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class that require 0 iq

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should not have

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every tool in the game

grand mesa
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But I will not be fucked by 300iq evokers with it while also simultaneously getting fucked by 30iq evoker teammates with it a

haughty compass
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DH is pretty insanely Brain dead

stray sigil
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u literally press 123

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blur on cd

haughty compass
stray sigil
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cuz it doesnt matter

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u get random loh procs

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cuz why not

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2 stuns 1 fear

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mobility

haughty compass
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Auto dark is also such a trash interaction

stray sigil
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fucked up dmg

grand mesa
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The fear is a bit much

stray sigil
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like

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u have a purge

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?

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ranged kick

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XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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u have ms

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u take reduc magic dmg

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and u inc magic dmg iirc

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like

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list goes on

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and on

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and on

grand mesa
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Reverse

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It’s really easy for them to just stun into fear sigil under you

haughty compass
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DH currently is apparently recognized as the best dps spec I guess

grand mesa
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Kinda annoying

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Idk one theme I noticed in beta shuffle is that I uh don’t really get to play much

stray sigil
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u cant play whilke he does 20k dps to u

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seems good

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haughty compass
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I also think shuffle @isn’t the best representation

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grand mesa
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I mean let’s be real. It’s gonna be the preferred game mode

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Guilty is even pvping again

haughty compass
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My gladiator dreams...

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🥲

grand mesa
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2400 In shuffle means the same as 2400 in 3s

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Trust

stray sigil
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u cant get glad in shuffle so u will have plenty of ppl playing 3s for glad

haughty compass
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I’m gonna be so sweaty

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grand mesa
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Every 1800 dh who’s 2.4+ in shuffle rn just didn’t haven’t teammates

haughty compass
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grand mesa
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Get got enji u idiot

haughty compass
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The fact that I was able to get 2200 in 2 days of Qs tells me the game mode isn’t ready lol

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But I guess non voice gamers have a slight advantage? Idk

stray sigil
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u are getting more cr than u should atm

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cuz ur in perma placements

haughty compass
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Yea I think I agree wth that

grand mesa
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Is it cause we’re in perma placements

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Yeah

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It feels exactly like the first 10 games on a toon

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Just uhh

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Forever

stray sigil
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u wont get 2.2 that fast on release

haughty compass
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Yea that’s what I’m saying, game mode isn’t ready

grand mesa
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I hope the pve side of the game isn’t busy

stray sigil
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no im saying

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it is ready

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its cuz its off season

haughty compass
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I’m gonna be zipping into walls and carrying my healer into double stuns as evoker

stray sigil
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u cannot not be in placements

haughty compass
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No 2.2 for a bit I’m sure

grand mesa
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I think the game mode feels fine

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Just outliers be outlieing

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And perma placement MMR so fucky

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Tanks relatively fixed. Leavers relatively fixed

haughty compass
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I like it

stray sigil
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i dont

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buff feral

haughty compass
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I’ll be spamming next week

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Dragonboi

grand mesa
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I’ll probably play a lot next week too

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Aff nerf

haughty compass
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Tank change goes live in DF?

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Or next week

grand mesa
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Next week

haughty compass
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Nice

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We love to see it

grand mesa
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I’m curious how hard it is to heal max rf bear spamming giga moonfires

stray sigil
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are damp changes up next week ?

haughty compass
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Chrono loop is going to be such a fun ability

safe heart
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a tale as old as time

stray sigil
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u getting only tanks uh

safe heart
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so far im 1-1

haughty compass
safe heart
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NAZGUL CLEAVE

stray sigil
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that is nto a dragon

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good sir

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haughty compass
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Looks like one

stray sigil
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BUT ITS NOT ONE OK

haughty compass
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Is that the tank?

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Lmao

safe heart
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yeah

haughty compass
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Irony

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Ironfur

haughty compass
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haughty compass
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Wyvern

haughty compass
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Plz

safe heart
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he logged off before i could reply

haughty compass
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Oh he prob blocked you

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Lmao

safe heart
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hey i only have 15m deserter

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gotta love ppl who block you after talking shit so they can "get the last word" lol

stray sigil
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uh

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its closer to a serpent

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than a dragon

haughty compass
grand mesa
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Just let the tank ruin 4 peoples fun don’t be toxic enji

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It’s his $15

haughty compass
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Remove tanks

safe heart
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the funny part is that id probably be gaining cr even going like 2-4 in these queues since im below 15

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also

haughty compass
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People were leaving lobbies I was going 5-0 in

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So I repaid by leaving round 6 of tank games

stray sigil
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yes

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not a dragon

haughty compass
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Have you ever seen lord of the rings?

grand mesa
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Bears being aura buffed by 50% HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA @pallid coral

stray sigil
grand mesa
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Gasttank in guardian

pallid coral
grand mesa
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Can’t be intended

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Maybe 5

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😂

safe heart
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i think the thing im not liking the most about sp

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is that i feel helpless in like 1v2 type situations

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like feels hard to carry the game

haughty compass
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Maybe have a case of the get goods

stray sigil
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toxic

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smh

safe heart
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its just cause i have no mobility

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so like i can run and recover

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so even if im like fighting a low gear monk and dh

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i cant really win

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because they literally just stand on me and beat my ass

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cant do anything

stray sigil
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u have a root Kappa

haughty compass
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Night borne slow

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But yea team has to peel

safe heart
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yeah i have a 5 second root on a 1m cd lol

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and i walk at regular speed

grand mesa
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Ok

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I’m not playing next week shuffle either

safe heart
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its like i root them and i cant even get out of melee range in 5s p much

grand mesa
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Lmao

haughty compass
surreal heron
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it's on beta

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not live

grand mesa
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Wouldn’t it be safe to assume it’ll be pushed to live by the time it’s Tuesday?

surreal heron
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no

grand mesa
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Oh

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Then there’s hope

surreal heron
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i don't believe live has the updated tree

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ik ptr does

grand mesa
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How can I dramatically over react if you’re here to dispel misconceptions

safe heart
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ive never really liked this weapon but i kinda like this mog

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its just a set but still

grand mesa
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I figured the new tree gets pushed to live in phase 2

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Looks good

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I bought a flower offhand from AV vendor

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So now I need to find a nice spring dress to go with that and my flower circlet

viscid remnant
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man theres acool staff

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wiht a flower

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iforgor what its called

haughty compass
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Y’all sus

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I’m into it

clear pulsar
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@tepid spoke brother remind me again where are you from?

edgy oxide
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Your bedroom

clear pulsar
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I wish

surreal heron
clear pulsar
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Have you seen mattiu?

grand mesa
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Mattiu is chad

stray sigil
safe heart
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i gotta get outta snupys chat

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im starting to get controversial

stray sigil
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sus

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now i must see

safe heart
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its not much

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i was just arguing alittle about solo shuffle killing 3s

haughty compass
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Wrath classic arena tourney

stray sigil
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hes playing boomy aff with starfire shit

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f

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f

haughty compass
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Peak wow boys

safe heart
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and he kinda refuted it

tropic schooner
haughty compass
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Swapxy always in the mix

haughty compass
safe heart
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i feel like DF s1 is gunna feel like SL s4 because of shuffle ngl

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yeah i think it will

haughty compass
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Might be right

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It beats sitting in LFG

safe heart
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i think only hardcore sweats are gunna do 3s

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yeah i know

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but thats the problem

stray sigil
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ye hes 1st

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in dmg

safe heart
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casuals arent gunna do 3s when they can solo shuffle

stray sigil
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but his dk just did like a 80k obli

haughty compass
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I must get sweaty

stray sigil
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but feral s tier

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ig

safe heart
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so the pool of ppl for 3s is gunna go to 0

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tropic schooner
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which I believe is current plan isnt it?

stray sigil
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ye ik

haughty compass
stray sigil
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but his viewers gonna look at dmg

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stray sigil
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and eat it up

tropic schooner
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doubt 3s will die but for sure lower playerpool ye

haughty compass
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Glad to solo shuffle gives me a better chance at it tbh

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Lol

safe heart
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taht would feel so bad if they did that

haughty compass
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Will be interesting to see how it goes, I was saying something similar to this and got flamed in here

safe heart
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i mean i get why ppl equate them i guess

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but like

haughty compass
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Soloist doesn’t sound as cool as gladiator

safe heart
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i feel like shuffle is much lower skill than actual 3s

stray sigil
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think ur undervaluing the fact u get to choose ur partners/comp in reg 3s

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its not gonna die

safe heart
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yeah but i think only hardcore players are gunna care about that

haughty compass
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I think I have a team, rsham dk evoker

safe heart
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90% of players are casuals who want a queue pop

stray sigil
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i mean

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the average wow player is 1400 btw

haughty compass
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The mmr will get figured out

stray sigil
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not flame or exageration

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that is the case

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anything about 1800

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i would qualify as "hardcore"

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for wow pvp

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ABOVE*

safe heart
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but that just means that like

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mmr is gunna feel like s4

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queueing r1s at 2k

stray sigil
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i dont think that for 1 mode to work the other one has to die

tropic schooner
stray sigil
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look at 2s and 3s

haughty compass
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Considering there is no gear upgrade for rating, yea only reason to play 3s is for glad chance

tropic schooner
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whats harder will always be based on competition

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neither is harder or easier in a vacuum everything is relative

haughty compass
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For non gladiator hopefuls, literally no reason to Q 3s

safe heart
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my point is that shuffle is gunna deflate 3s

safe heart
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this is what i mean

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if you dont want glad

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why would you ever queue 3s at all

tropic schooner
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fun

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but ofc people will play 3s less

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that is very likely

stray sigil
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there is no glad in 2s

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and ppl still play it

grand mesa
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Yeah I pushed 2400 in 2s for fun

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I suspect 3s will still have activity

clear pulsar
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No one is saying people wont play shuffle cuz there is no glad

grand mesa
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And they can always turn on inflation

clear pulsar
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It's the opposite fuji learn 2 read

safe heart
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i saying the inverse

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im saying shuffle will deflate 3s

tropic schooner
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you gotta learn to read

safe heart
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so 3s will become a very small pool

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of ppl who want glad mounts

tropic schooner
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the argument was that people who wouldnt ever get glad in 3s would stop playing because of solo q

safe heart
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so its gunna be like s4

stray sigil
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im saying like

clear pulsar
haughty compass
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“I’m genuinely worried solo shuffle gonna further ruin pvp. Like I want it to be good, but just have a feeling”

I put that 9/21

stray sigil
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ur saying only point of 3s q is glad

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there is no point in 2s

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and ppl still play i dont see why it would make 3s less

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idk

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maybe im tartd

grand mesa
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I think you’ll see less 3s because it’s a ducking hassle to squad up and play

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And shuffle exists now

safe heart
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well the difference is that in 2s, you just find 1 partner and queue
but in shuffle u find 0 partners and queue

grand mesa
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Nothing to do with glad

haughty compass
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And gear upgrades are easier to get in 2s

safe heart
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ppl played 2s because you only need 1 person

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now you need 0

grand mesa
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I mean I also want to play with my friends

stone breach
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I think solo shuffle will have a much bigger impact on 2s queue rates over 3s queue rates

grand mesa
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Dh buddy and I will play together until the servers shut down

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Can’t play shuffle with him

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I also want to see Trevvy fuji jungle

clear pulsar
grand mesa
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Can’t do that in shuffle either

stone breach
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I trust in Ludus to tell us

grand mesa
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I’ve been waiting my whole wow life for him PepeHands

stray sigil
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idk i dont think shuffle will be for everyone

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the format gonna push ppl away aswell

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i dont think there will be a shortage of ppl in lfg

grand mesa
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Outliers are way more obnoxious in shuffle too

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If you’re not the meta classes

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Might not have fun

stray sigil
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smoe ppl wont have fun playing random comps and shit

grand mesa
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Ie mages

stray sigil
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some ppl like more structured stuff

safe heart
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i hate the random comp bullshit

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feels dumb to me

grand mesa
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What I can see happening

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Is they balance for shuffle

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And it fucks 3s some

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Like mages get buffs to be good for shuffle. That just makes RMP giga

stray sigil
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idk solo shuffle is in enfancy i dont think itll stay like 6 round of swapping around forever

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theyre def gonna look into changes at some point with more data

grand mesa
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Idk what format you could play tho

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I think rotating is great

stray sigil
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could q up get 2 randos

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1 round

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over

safe heart
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yeah

stray sigil
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like normal 3s

safe heart
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literally just a skirm 3s

grand mesa
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That’s even more comp sensitive no?

clear pulsar
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I love shuffle

safe heart
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not really

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its still random

stray sigil
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does it matter though

grand mesa
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Shuffle averages out

clear pulsar
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And I think all you pearl clutchers hating on it are super cringe

grand mesa
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Whatever shit you get in your lobby

stray sigil
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in shuffle ur forced to play that comp twice

grand mesa
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So if you have a shitlord or a r1 dude

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It averages out to your own personal performance

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To some degree

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Close enough that they can award rating gain or loss on it

safe heart
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i think rated skirms are cringe

stray sigil
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this kind of system literally not a problem in every game

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hate on league all u want

junior plover
stray sigil
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ur gonna get forced with

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some dogshit players

junior plover
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League has a draft phase

stray sigil
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and dogshit comps

tropic schooner
grand mesa
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League has pick ban im assuming

tropic schooner
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that doesnt change anything

stray sigil
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ye but also has 150 picks

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we have like 30 specs total

grand mesa
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38 but yeah

junior plover
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Ofc it changes a lot, randomly pairing people in wow will lead to 95% of all games being shit quality

tropic schooner
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some classes will perform better some will be worse

junior plover
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In shuffle at least you get to play both sides of the matchup

stray sigil
tropic schooner
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expecting it to be "fair" as in every one has the same chance

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is stupid

stray sigil
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i dont get ur arguments

tropic schooner
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its never ever gonna happen

grand mesa
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That’s why shuffle rotation is good tho

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It averages out performance across 6 rounds

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And you pair with everyone in lobby

stray sigil
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ur talking about not wanting to q with a shitter for 1 game

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but u have to q with the shitter

junior plover
stray sigil
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twice

grand mesa
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It’s a good approximation of your own personal performance or impact

stray sigil
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in shuffle

civic pilot
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How toxic has shuffle been so far?

grand mesa
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In a match

stray sigil
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i dont get the argument

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at all

junior plover
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As opposed to autolosing because you queued into a shit matchup

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tropic schooner
stray sigil
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ye but u get like 100 cr + early in shuffle

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u wouldnt get close to that with the other way

tropic schooner
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its the same as random matchmaking, think they wanted to spice it up a bit which is fine

tropic schooner
stray sigil
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idont think shuffle is bad

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i think it can be worked on

tropic schooner
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if you leave a bunch of games just ban you for a few days from shuffles

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and if you do that more just straight ban acc for a bit

grand mesa
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I’m not saying I prefer shuffle over 3s either

safe heart
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the highest ive gotten up to is 30m

tropic schooner
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yea should scale more

grand mesa
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I’d rather play with 2 buds in structure game where both teams coordinating

junior plover
tropic schooner
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and have temp acc bans too

safe heart
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if there was an actual ban risk i wouldnt leave

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id probably stop queuing

tropic schooner
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exactly

grand mesa
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But for solo content I think shuffle is really elegant

tropic schooner
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which is why they need to do it

junior plover
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Because you can't continuously queue into shit comps/players randomly if you get to play both sides of the matchup

safe heart
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yeah i cannot be stopped currently

tropic schooner
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to have people not be toxic dicks like that

safe heart
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when u queue into 2 bears as a sp

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you lose some sanity

junior plover
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It just makes the climb less rng, idk why that'd be bad

stray sigil
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there can absolutely be cases

junior plover
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Ofc over 10000 games it doesn't matter

stray sigil
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where every comp u get

grand mesa
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That’s a function of the rules not the format right

stray sigil
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will be shit

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ur not safe from that in shuffle

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even with swapping around

junior plover
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I mean if your class doesn't work with anything on the ladder you probably are gonna struggle in either format

clear pulsar
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Dark pact nerfed in half

safe heart
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end of the day my only concern with shuffle is the effect it will have on 3s
i dont consider it like important or meaningful really so i only queue to fuck around and push buttons but it can stay idc

safe heart
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but also fuck all tank players

stray sigil
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feral boomy enh and like some other shit

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in 1 lobby

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and now tanks count as dps

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u could get boomy enh guardian feral

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or prot warrior

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like ur not safe lol

grand mesa
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Is my opinion skewed cause I’m healer

junior plover
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To be fair

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Tanks should be beheaded

grand mesa
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And my baseline expectation is 3-3 and it’s on me to not fuck up

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Or overperform

stray sigil
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3-3 u should not be getting cr imo'

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if u go completely even

junior plover
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I think the biggest random factor in shuffle will be healer skill

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If you're queueing dps

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So i like the idea of playing with both healers

grand mesa
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If you’re 3-3ing against a higher rated healer idk

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Which is I think how it works

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To some degree

tropic schooner
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yes

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cause thats an absurd idea

stray sigil
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ur gonna play within ur mmr

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so prob wont happen much

junior plover
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The mmr tiers will probably be giga fucked

stray sigil
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ur not gonna q into 2.8 healer

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when ur 2.2

junior plover
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Because class imbalance and all that

grand mesa
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That’s how it’s been playing out in practice Ent

tropic schooner
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like people talking about the "impact" of role/heroes in other games

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really dont understand how it works

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yes some stuff can have more impact, but thats only really relevant if you are way way better

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so for pros to play games to gain rating its relevant

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but if you are at your rating what you do will be relevant

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and if you are better more often then your opponent and do stuff to help your team win you will gain rating

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obviously being better in a game like wow also depends on the specific class you play

stray sigil
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that is absolutely not how it works lol

tropic schooner
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(in the earlier thing I meant to say impact of roles, not specs)

stray sigil
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just because u play better than the other dude

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doesnt mean u will get rating

tropic schooner
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specs are very relevant

junior plover
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Over a large enough number of games

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Yes it does

stray sigil
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when u rely on 4 other ppl

tropic schooner
junior plover
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It's the same as any other team game

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You can play 5v5 in league and as long as you continuously perform above your rank you will rank up eventually

grand mesa
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I mean fuji I guess there’s also the phenomenon where the weak link in shuffle finally figures out what he should do after he lost 2 games with you

junior plover
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Even tho you can queue into 4 griefers 10 times in a row and lose despite being better

tropic schooner
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im also ofc talking about middle rating, not extreme outliers at the top/bottom

grand mesa
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But idk I don’t think you can exclude all variables

tropic schooner
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where you are unevenly matched due to not enough players in your bracket

stray sigil
grand mesa
#

Into a neat vacuum

tropic schooner
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and where its more tricky

stray sigil
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but itll cap out eventually

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doesnt work in wow

junior plover
#

Yeah not sure about top rating in wow

tropic schooner
junior plover
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But you should be able to use that principle at least til 2.4k

tropic schooner
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so weak links increase your rating

tropic schooner
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same as inting players, they are positive for your mmr

junior plover
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If you're good, the enemy team has 3 potentially bad players, yours only has 2

tropic schooner
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assuming you dont cause them/you arent one of them

stray sigil
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i dont think healers will have that much agency in shuffle if damp goes to shit super fast

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thats just me though idk

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gonna be like

grand mesa
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But using most extreme example. 1 dps has 30k hp. Both healers play 3 rounds with him. That’s where the 3-3 comes from earlier

stray sigil
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akin to

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jungle in league

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where they are all about early

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and do nothing after a while

tropic schooner
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why would it be a dps?

stray sigil
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cuz its more likely ?

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lol

tropic schooner
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then you go 6-0

tropic schooner
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they would be 4-2 I think

grand mesa
stray sigil
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he was talking about his perspective

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as a healer

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he wont go 4-2

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with a dude 30k hp

tropic schooner
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now its possible that the mmr system is in such a way that your one 6-0 compared to the 2 4-2 will be relevant but if we have a matchmaking system those 30k 0-6 players wont really happen much after your initial 10-20 games

safe heart
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30k hp
hundo P youre going 06

junior plover
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Why are we acting like most games will have a 30k HP dps

tropic schooner
grand mesa
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I’m using extreme example

stray sigil
tropic schooner
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its not exactly relevnat I also dont know if that is worse for healers or not

stray sigil
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ppl are gonna q with fresh alts

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on no gear

junior plover
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Ye on 1200mmr

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It's gonna happen

stray sigil
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and ppl at like 1.5-1.6

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nono

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placements are not that low

grand mesa
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Well holdup

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It’s confirmed

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There’s a min ilvl to queue

tropic schooner
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now I dont know matchmaking well enough to know which is better for your mmr

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I doubt its overly relevant in the grand scheme of things

junior plover
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It's not really a concern for anyone >1.8k anyway

stray sigil
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unless min ilvl to q moves up as the ssn progresses

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then it means nothing

grand mesa
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We won’t see 30k when everyone is 101k tho

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And there’s min ilvl scaling

stray sigil
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i mean sure

junior plover
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And as Ent said, whether healers have agency or not only matters if you're substantially better/worse than the opposing healer

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But I get that it can feel bad

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If you have little impact on the result

tropic schooner
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yea any solo q will feel bad at times

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cause there will be games where there is not much you can do

stray sigil
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i dont think its little impact

tropic schooner
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cause you are not gonna be much better

stray sigil
#

damp goes to like 50% within waht

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3mins

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max ?

junior plover
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SCfloppaAMONGUS 🤙

grand mesa
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Starts at 10 and ramps up +25% every minute

stray sigil
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ye so like

junior plover
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Up to 100??

stray sigil
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healers arent irrelevant

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but like

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2mins in

grand mesa
#

So second round of 2 minutes like limb is unhealable

stray sigil
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they are kinda off the table ish

junior plover
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So by 4 minutes healers don't have buttons?

stray sigil
#

gonna oom like crazy instantly

junior plover
stray sigil
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so whoever said healers being good will be deciding factor

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not sure i agree completely

junior plover
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Idk if the meta is fast

tiny oar
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I'll play with you no matter what spec you want to be buddy 💚

junior plover
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They could still be

grand mesa
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I actually think hpal will be really good

stray sigil
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doesnt matter if meta is fast

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u have to play fast

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either way

grand mesa
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They bomb heals but OOM hard. But damp is so fast you don’t even think about OOM. Then you have the immunities

junior plover
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Ye but i mean if the games are decided out of opener

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Healers will have agency

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If they drag

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Prob not

stray sigil
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thats why i compared it to jungle

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in league

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kinda similar

junior plover
#

Ye

stray sigil
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u ahve to get shit down early

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that will also prob turn ppl away

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cuz some classes are not gonna be equipped

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to play that fastr

grand mesa
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Or live when healing dries up

stray sigil
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makes big cooldowns a lot stronger aswell

grand mesa
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That’s why dk kinda dominant in shuffle fuji

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First limb on opener does a lot

stray sigil
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dh dk

grand mesa
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Second is unhealable

stray sigil
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just use ur shit on cd

stray sigil
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so its back up asap when the damp starts

balmy dagger
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hello food mans

safe heart
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thats why i hate queueing into tanks cuz sp without a healer feels so bad

grand mesa
#

It’s shit cause like. The proper answer is nerf healing for balance. But it can be so unfun for healers at the same time to just play in that setting

safe heart
#

having a dk grip me into a bear dk dh triple cleave is just so troll

stray sigil
#

answer is nerf healing

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nerf cds

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buff dmg

grand mesa
#

I think with damp the way it is they absolutely could take a lot off the top of CDs

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Just landing a CC gonna force so much 1.5min in

stray sigil
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idk classes with sub 3min defensives a good be good

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the others not so much

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bunch of shit rly

grand mesa
#

I’m actually curious how MW does man

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Everyone’s got them rated high

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But no external DR and revival and cocoon being so subject to damp

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Idk

crystal forge
#

My barber didn’t say a word while she was cutting my hair on god I’m going back and she’s getting fatty tips the only one to just cut my hair in silence

stone breach
viscid remnant
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havent beento a barber in almost 2 years gg

wise valley
#

@clear pulsar how has that guy gotten even more buff

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I figured the meth would take him

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Or his mom

royal solar
haughty compass
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Port / gate

haughty compass
#

Can really make your own plays at times

thorny venture
#

Y'all ready for bears to maul you for 30-40% hp?

stone breach
safe heart
#

dude i swear

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in 2 days

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i have not played 1 single shuffle

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that didnt have a lock , a dh or both

thorny venture
#

Omg, a max rav frenzy maul in prepatch may actually come close to one shotting

clear pulsar
#

If 50% aura buff on maul goes thru to prepatch and not just beta

thorny venture
#

We go to the beta build on Tuesday

grand mesa
#

Face it’s 50% to everything but moonfire lol

grand mesa
#

Did they hit dark pact again?

#

Idk if it’s the same as the nerf coming in on Tuesday or dbl nerfs

crystal forge
#

who cuts ur hair?

viscid remnant
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nobody

crystal forge
#

???????

viscid remnant
#

imean

safe heart
#

its al

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you guys wanna know what the secret tech is

#

i won 3 of those rounds by literally waiting in the starting room on my mount and when they open me, i just disperse mounted and run to their starting room and one of the other dps died in that time
then on round 4 they realized it was dumb to go me cuz i did it 3x in a row so they swapped and let me free cast and i just dropped a mindgames amidst the chaos and a dps would auto die

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so i won 3 rounds without ever dismounting

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tank q's are great high skill

grand mesa
#

Hit send

safe heart
#

i would but im trying not to let myself get fr toxic

grand mesa
#

HAHAHAHAHHAA

#

is he actually playing it out

#

Hoping

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You don’t leave

safe heart
#

yeah he is

#

i have more wins rn

grand mesa
#

Maybe he thinks because of that you’ll stay?

#

But are u gonna 😈

safe heart
#

ill probably stay this time

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if i have more wins than him atleast

crystal forge
#

leave

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dont let him get rating

safe heart
#

i think he lost rating lmao

crystal forge
#

LOL

safe heart
#

he went 2-4

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he was higher than me, but i didnt look

crystal forge
#

i throw games w ith dogshit tanks

#

or dps

safe heart
#

its tank q so i mean i cant really do shit but

crystal forge
#

jsust live lord against them

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and take gear off with them

safe heart
#

tank queues i dont unmount until i know theyre not going me

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can stay mounted while dispersed

crystal forge
#

yeah thats giga

safe heart
tepid spoke
#

BEAR BUFFS

tepid spoke
#

We are neighbors

clear pulsar
#

Oh ye very close

stray sigil
clear pulsar
#

Was RBD big there when you were younger?

#

Were you a big RBD fanboy in school?

stray sigil
#

do u like country music about pickup trucks @tepid spoke

tepid spoke
#

I know like the most iconic songs

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Which is like

#

One

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Lmao

clear pulsar
stray sigil
#

didntr answer me

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means he does too

#

@viscid remnant

viscid remnant
#

wat

stray sigil
#

he likes pick up truck country music too

tepid spoke
#

No

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I mean

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Some songs sure

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But i cant remember which on the top of my head

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@clear pulsar how is anitta seen in brazil

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Shit or no shit

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Cause i liker her songs

clear pulsar
#

She's the most popular and the most hated probably too

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Mostly by older people, more conservative

clear pulsar
#

For the most part with up to mid 30s crowd she's very beloved and people are happy with a br artist doing well internationally

tepid spoke
#

For ppl that dont know anitta

clear pulsar
#

But she beefs with some big sertanejo duos sometimes

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So she has a decent amount of haters

tepid spoke
#

Thought so

#

Personally i think shes a vibe

safe heart
#

is there a reason why the wow error messages ahave to take up like 40% of your screen

clear pulsar
#

Did you change UI scale by chance?

safe heart
#

im gunna go with no on this one

tepid spoke
#

Lmao

#

Ive seen ppl that play at 2x scale

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And im like

#

Are you a grandma

stray sigil
#

bro wtf is that video clip lol

#

its kinda

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softcore

tepid spoke
#

Thats anitta lmaoo

stray sigil
#

might aswell just get fucked on vid

#

highschoolers in brazil def jerkin off to that shit

#

wild

#

weirdppl

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ok she does that shit in every vid

#

one of those artist uh

clear pulsar
#

Idk the song is a banger

#

But you seem to think high schoolers jerking off is wild and weird so idk

tepid spoke
#

I mean

#

Idgaf if she shows azz im gay

#

I actually have simpathy with ppl that are like her

#

🤪

#

The song is good tho

clear pulsar
#

Same I rly like to show my ass so she's just like me fr

haughty compass
tepid spoke
#

Same lmaooo

stray sigil
haughty compass
#

Ty for the cake mattiu

tepid spoke
#

Np shes like that in all her vids

stray sigil
#

she the nicki of brazil or wat

tepid spoke
#

Yea lmao

clear pulsar
#

Ofc feji didnt know who anitta is

#

Too much ginger white quebecois energy

haughty compass
#

I’m a fan.

#

👀

stray sigil
#

i seen her i think on tiktok

#

these pants

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with the cheeks hanging out

#

has to be her i saw lol

tepid spoke
#

I dont think gringos like reggaeton

clear pulsar
#

Yeah def not

tepid spoke
#

They are too conservative

clear pulsar
#

She's known internationally but in the US it's for sure 99% latinos and black people cuz she's friends with cardi b and some other artists

tepid spoke
#

Ya

haughty compass
#

Typical boomer

tepid spoke
#

My playlist is so fucked

#

Trance hardstyle reggaeton

#

Romantic

#

Shakira

stray sigil
#

that song def sucked

#

and is 100%

#

carried by her having almost sex

#

on camera

#

dont @ me

tepid spoke
#

Wdyyyyymmmm

#

I am listening it on repeat

stray sigil
#

415m views

#

for what u think

clear pulsar
#

It has

tepid spoke
#

Doing pendlay rows

clear pulsar
#

428mill on spotify

#

You reckon spotify has video or

haughty compass
stray sigil
#

i did mute it

tepid spoke
#

Lmaooo

stray sigil
#

lol

haughty compass
#

Back twins

tepid spoke
#

What do you guys listen to at prties

#

Wtf

haughty compass
#

Parties? Lmao

#

I have 2 kids homie

stray sigil
#

if parties ahve spanish music

#

i kinda get out

#

tbh

tepid spoke
#

You guys never perrean

stray sigil
#

white people blasting spanish music

#

is incredibly cringe to me

tepid spoke
#

Lmaoo

haughty compass
#

I have soft spot for latinas tho, for sure

stray sigil
#

ala enrique iglesias

#

cringe

#

beyuond bnelife

haughty compass
stray sigil
#

its white girls music

#

in here

#

but i dont do parties if we do its like weed parties

#

so some kendrick better vibes

haughty compass
#

I was a competitive athlete most of my life, never got into the party / club life

#

:<

#

Always felt so weird

stray sigil
#

did parties exist in ur time pylon

tepid spoke
#

I mean

#

Why not

haughty compass
#

Lmao

tepid spoke
#

You dont have to party every weekend

#

Train mon-fri

haughty compass
#

Alcohol just not worth

tepid spoke
#

Go out once a month

#

A saturday

edgy shale
#

@viscid remnant WG

haughty compass
#

Yea I shoulda had more balance, but that’s the way it was

tepid spoke
#

I feel you

clear pulsar
#

I respect the discipline, even if you know you can do some stuff and balance it out, strong discipline is nice too

tepid spoke
#

I never go out either

edgy shale
#

@viscid remnant WG

tepid spoke
#

And im 31

#

But i dont have kids

#

So

clear pulsar
#

You're def lying you're way out there all the time

tepid spoke
#

Or a wife/husbando

viscid remnant
#

ty\

tepid spoke
#

So i have more freedom

haughty compass
#

Yea I mean, live your best life... I just can’t relate lol. Im very boring

viscid remnant
#

tyty

tepid spoke
#

My back is weaker than my chest atm

#

Unforch

thorny venture
#

time to kill some blues!

edgy shale
#

ur titties is strong?

tepid spoke
#

Ye

clear pulsar
#

I have a hard time with back workout

#

Don't feel like I do it very right!? Idk

haughty compass
#

Bench heavy single today, been a few years lol

tepid spoke
#

Do some pendlay rows for back

#

Develops a lot of str

#

My pr pendlay atm is 100

haughty compass
#

220 in freedom units

tepid spoke
#

4 plates

#

225

#

We just round kilos here

#

Cuz a 45lbs plate is like 20,4 or smth

edgy shale
#

strong man titties is very important

clear pulsar
safe heart
#

do them chest supported with a incline bench

tepid spoke
#

Ye that works then you can move to free weight

#

But honestly with pendlays its the most str ive gotten

#

Then i do regular rows with 80kilos pretty ez

haughty compass
#

Yea chest supported, similar stimulus, less technical

tepid spoke
#

Honestly im motivated again

#

I cant find balance tho

#

When im motivated with thw gym im demotivated from wow

#

And the other way around

#

I was playing like 24/7 for the last couple months and i gained 15kilos lmao

#

Sitting at 95 atm cant even do 10 pullups with my fatass

viscid remnant
#

iam not sure

#

if to bulk up

#

cuz idk last time i bulked

#

i felt kinda shiat

#

heavy and shit cardio

tepid spoke
#

Yea i do too but thats cause

viscid remnant
#

and my cardio shit in general

#

tru or tru

tepid spoke
#

I eat shit when i bull

#

Bulk

#

Do you?

viscid remnant
#

not rly

tepid spoke
#

Ive never done a clean bulk

#

Weak mental

viscid remnant
#

i eat junkfood like 1 time per month max

tepid spoke
#

I can cut ez tho

#

Yea i feel you

viscid remnant
#

idk iam kinda like

tepid spoke
#

It sucks to feel heavy

edgy shale
viscid remnant
#

iam losing ipod

#

but idont care cuz

edgy shale
#

wtf?

viscid remnant
#

they broke all towers

#

i need honor

#

dont care about win

edgy shale
#

i care about ur win

viscid remnant
#

the real win is honor grind

#

i need honor more than ev

#

still missing wrist belt boots ring and helmet

#

for fullygear

#

but iam rly good geared considering i hit 80 yesterday

#

going to do 2s withmy brother that logs on the game

#

pog or pog

edgy shale
#

stream

wise valley
#

Mega pot

#

Mega pog

#

Baking sessions with the bro are max fun time

viscid remnant
#

i got the bis shield

#

big or BIGdam

wise valley
#

Typos leggo today

tropic schooner
#

😦

safe heart
viscid remnant
#

first run ent

tropic schooner
#

dont have either shield of assimilation or voice of reason

#

on any char

tepid spoke
#

Honestly if i do a bulk ever again ill do it on roids

#

Tren and test

viscid remnant
#

wtf dont

tepid spoke
#

Why

#

It aint that bad

haughty compass
#

Lol

tepid spoke
#

Like ppl make it seem

#

And i think like

#

If you on gear

#

You are much more motivated

#

Cause you know

viscid remnant
#

ur balls will be small

tepid spoke
#

You are wasting money on it and shit

viscid remnant
#

and u will die sooner

#

not good

haughty compass
#

Motivation comes and goes

tepid spoke
#

Yea for a while

haughty compass
#

You must have discipline