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Yeah that was conclusion I came to
it kind of becomes a game of YOU know that you want to chaarge bolt spear
Trying to aim it on moving target. I don’t think it “latches” the moment u drop it
but the priest if not covered WILL grip the bolt
so you bolt early then aim spear at priest and spear both
or at least the bolted target if the priest grips too fast (and the stun doesn't expire before you have the chance to throw the spear)
Yeah they have fodder
But u have protector

🤗
It’s not LOH tho
My buddy has gone from priest to rogue to shaman to mage to warrior to dh
its effectively loh
Every single bad Q session he rerolls
I hate it
P sure it’s effected by damp and that’s gonna be more prominent anyway idk
random heals that crit for like 60k
Double dps might be kinda real again
Non hybrid healing is so out of hand last couple expacs
they legit can heal more than me
if they have good rng
which they all seem to have
Yea idk
ur def a bit biased on this one i think
I think blur is more problematic
tyhe whole class is problematic
its ooga booga 0 iq
and has everything
for no reason
It’s a hero class
the easier the class the less shit they should have
🤣
I actually think evoker is pretty straight forward. The dps spec anyway
“Advanced”
They’re taking away divine and conquer

I think it said something about the art not being ready
Yeah
For the non rushed xpac
idk imagine bm hunter
had all the tools and shit
that dh had
class that require 0 iq
should not have
every tool in the game
But I will not be fucked by 300iq evokers with it while also simultaneously getting fucked by 30iq evoker teammates with it a
DH is pretty insanely Brain dead
Yea I loved that it had some serious skill cap to it
cuz it doesnt matter
u get random loh procs
cuz why not
2 stuns 1 fear
mobility
Auto dark is also such a trash interaction
fucked up dmg
The fear is a bit much
like
u have a purge
?
ranged kick
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
u have ms
u take reduc magic dmg
and u inc magic dmg iirc
like
list goes on
and on
and on
DH currently is apparently recognized as the best dps spec I guess
Kinda annoying
Idk one theme I noticed in beta shuffle is that I uh don’t really get to play much
I also think shuffle @isn’t the best representation
I mean let’s be real. It’s gonna be the preferred game mode
Guilty is even pvping again
u cant get glad in shuffle so u will have plenty of ppl playing 3s for glad
I’m gonna be so sweaty
i dont think i agree with this
Every 1800 dh who’s 2.4+ in shuffle rn just didn’t haven’t teammates
He’s trolling

Get got enji u idiot
The fact that I was able to get 2200 in 2 days of Qs tells me the game mode isn’t ready lol
But I guess non voice gamers have a slight advantage? Idk
Yea I think I agree wth that
Is it cause we’re in perma placements
Yeah
It feels exactly like the first 10 games on a toon
Just uhh
Forever
u wont get 2.2 that fast on release
Yea that’s what I’m saying, game mode isn’t ready
I hope the pve side of the game isn’t busy
I’m gonna be zipping into walls and carrying my healer into double stuns as evoker
u cannot not be in placements
No 2.2 for a bit I’m sure
I think the game mode feels fine
Just outliers be outlieing
And perma placement MMR so fucky
Tanks relatively fixed. Leavers relatively fixed
I like it
Next week
I’m curious how hard it is to heal max rf bear spamming giga moonfires
are damp changes up next week ?
Chrono loop is going to be such a fun ability
u getting only tanks uh
so far im 1-1
NAZGUL CLEAVE
Looks like one
BUT ITS NOT ONE OK
yeah
What is it
Wyvern
he logged off before i could reply
hey i only have 15m deserter
gotta love ppl who block you after talking shit so they can "get the last word" lol
It’s the equivalent of flipping someone off while driving imo
Remove tanks
the funny part is that id probably be gaining cr even going like 2-4 in these queues since im below 15
also
People were leaving lobbies I was going 5-0 in
So I repaid by leaving round 6 of tank games
Have you ever seen lord of the rings?
Bears being aura buffed by 50% HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA @pallid coral

Gasttank in guardian

i think the thing im not liking the most about sp
is that i feel helpless in like 1v2 type situations
like feels hard to carry the game
Maybe have a case of the get goods
its just cause i have no mobility
so like i can run and recover
so even if im like fighting a low gear monk and dh
i cant really win
because they literally just stand on me and beat my ass
cant do anything
u have a root 
its like i root them and i cant even get out of melee range in 5s p much
Lmao
Lol
Rescue
Wouldn’t it be safe to assume it’ll be pushed to live by the time it’s Tuesday?
no
How can I dramatically over react if you’re here to dispel misconceptions
ive never really liked this weapon but i kinda like this mog
its just a set but still
I figured the new tree gets pushed to live in phase 2
Looks good
I bought a flower offhand from AV vendor
So now I need to find a nice spring dress to go with that and my flower circlet
@tepid spoke brother remind me again where are you from?
Your bedroom
I wish

Have you seen mattiu?
Mattiu is chad

Wrath classic arena tourney
Peak wow boys
and he kinda refuted it
watching comps look a lot more reasonable compared to the liquid one
Swapxy always in the mix
Are you saying it kills 3s?
i feel like DF s1 is gunna feel like SL s4 because of shuffle ngl
yeah i think it will
casuals arent gunna do 3s when they can solo shuffle
but his dk just did like a 80k obli
I must get sweaty
so the pool of ppl for 3s is gunna go to 0
hes playing pet cleave spec
prolly depends a lot if they keep glad only in 3s
which I believe is current plan isnt it?
ye ik
Yea
but his viewers gonna look at dmg
if they add glad to solo shuffle i honestly might quit lol
and eat it up
doubt 3s will die but for sure lower playerpool ye
taht would feel so bad if they did that
Will be interesting to see how it goes, I was saying something similar to this and got flamed in here
Soloist doesn’t sound as cool as gladiator
i feel like shuffle is much lower skill than actual 3s
think ur undervaluing the fact u get to choose ur partners/comp in reg 3s
its not gonna die
yeah but i think only hardcore players are gunna care about that
I think I have a team, rsham dk evoker
90% of players are casuals who want a queue pop
The mmr will get figured out
not flame or exageration
that is the case
anything about 1800
i would qualify as "hardcore"
for wow pvp
ABOVE*
i dont think that for 1 mode to work the other one has to die
its different skill which is needed
look at 2s and 3s
Considering there is no gear upgrade for rating, yea only reason to play 3s is for glad chance
whats harder will always be based on competition
neither is harder or easier in a vacuum everything is relative
For non gladiator hopefuls, literally no reason to Q 3s
my point is that shuffle is gunna deflate 3s
^^^^
this is what i mean
if you dont want glad
why would you ever queue 3s at all
No one is saying people wont play shuffle cuz there is no glad
And they can always turn on inflation
It's the opposite fuji learn 2 read
what hes correct tho?
you gotta learn to read
the argument was that people who wouldnt ever get glad in 3s would stop playing because of solo q
so its gunna be like s4
im saying like
“I’m genuinely worried solo shuffle gonna further ruin pvp. Like I want it to be good, but just have a feeling”
I put that 9/21
ur saying only point of 3s q is glad
there is no point in 2s
and ppl still play i dont see why it would make 3s less
idk
maybe im tartd
I think you’ll see less 3s because it’s a ducking hassle to squad up and play
And shuffle exists now
well the difference is that in 2s, you just find 1 partner and queue
but in shuffle u find 0 partners and queue
Nothing to do with glad
And gear upgrades are easier to get in 2s
I mean I also want to play with my friends
I think solo shuffle will have a much bigger impact on 2s queue rates over 3s queue rates
Dh buddy and I will play together until the servers shut down
Can’t play shuffle with him
I also want to see Trevvy fuji jungle
Adorbs
This is very cute I'm happy you found a keeper bro
Can’t do that in shuffle either
I trust in Ludus to tell us
I’ve been waiting my whole wow life for him 
idk i dont think shuffle will be for everyone
the format gonna push ppl away aswell
i dont think there will be a shortage of ppl in lfg
Outliers are way more obnoxious in shuffle too
If you’re not the meta classes
Might not have fun
smoe ppl wont have fun playing random comps and shit
Ie mages
im worried about this too
some ppl like more structured stuff
What I can see happening
Is they balance for shuffle
And it fucks 3s some
Like mages get buffs to be good for shuffle. That just makes RMP giga
idk solo shuffle is in enfancy i dont think itll stay like 6 round of swapping around forever
theyre def gonna look into changes at some point with more data
yeah
like normal 3s
literally just a skirm 3s
That’s even more comp sensitive no?
I love shuffle
does it matter though
Shuffle averages out
And I think all you pearl clutchers hating on it are super cringe
Whatever shit you get in your lobby
in shuffle ur forced to play that comp twice
So if you have a shitlord or a r1 dude
It averages out to your own personal performance
To some degree
Close enough that they can award rating gain or loss on it
i think rated skirms are cringe
There's a major difference
League has a draft phase
and dogshit comps
why is that different?
League has pick ban im assuming
that doesnt change anything
38 but yeah
Ofc it changes a lot, randomly pairing people in wow will lead to 95% of all games being shit quality
some classes will perform better some will be worse
In shuffle at least you get to play both sides of the matchup
shuffle is literalyl that though
i dont get ur arguments
its never ever gonna happen
That’s why shuffle rotation is good tho
It averages out performance across 6 rounds
And you pair with everyone in lobby
ur talking about not wanting to q with a shitter for 1 game
but u have to q with the shitter
Both sides have to play the same matchups so the better player should walk away with the win
twice
It’s a good approximation of your own personal performance or impact
in shuffle
How toxic has shuffle been so far?
In a match
As opposed to autolosing because you queued into a shit matchup
i leaving every tank q to make sure they dont gain cr
I dont hate the system, but I dont think its really relevantly different
ye but u get like 100 cr + early in shuffle
u wouldnt get close to that with the other way
its the same as random matchmaking, think they wanted to spice it up a bit which is fine
yea I think that should be punished more
if you leave a bunch of games just ban you for a few days from shuffles
and if you do that more just straight ban acc for a bit
I’m not saying I prefer shuffle over 3s either
the highest ive gotten up to is 30m
yea should scale more
I’d rather play with 2 buds in structure game where both teams coordinating
It is meaningfully different over a small sample size of games
and have temp acc bans too
exactly
But for solo content I think shuffle is really elegant
which is why they need to do it
Because you can't continuously queue into shit comps/players randomly if you get to play both sides of the matchup
yeah i cannot be stopped currently
to have people not be toxic dicks like that
It just makes the climb less rng, idk why that'd be bad
there can absolutely be cases
Ofc over 10000 games it doesn't matter
where every comp u get
That’s a function of the rules not the format right
I mean if your class doesn't work with anything on the ladder you probably are gonna struggle in either format
Dark pact nerfed in half
end of the day my only concern with shuffle is the effect it will have on 3s
i dont consider it like important or meaningful really so i only queue to fuck around and push buttons but it can stay idc
i mean u could get
but also fuck all tank players
feral boomy enh and like some other shit
in 1 lobby
and now tanks count as dps
u could get boomy enh guardian feral
or prot warrior
like ur not safe lol
Is my opinion skewed cause I’m healer
I think the biggest random factor in shuffle will be healer skill
If you're queueing dps
So i like the idea of playing with both healers
If you’re 3-3ing against a higher rated healer idk
Which is I think how it works
To some degree
your opinion is skewed if you actually believe that
yes
cause thats an absurd idea
The mmr tiers will probably be giga fucked
Because class imbalance and all that
That’s how it’s been playing out in practice Ent
like people talking about the "impact" of role/heroes in other games
really dont understand how it works
yes some stuff can have more impact, but thats only really relevant if you are way way better
so for pros to play games to gain rating its relevant
but if you are at your rating what you do will be relevant
and if you are better more often then your opponent and do stuff to help your team win you will gain rating
obviously being better in a game like wow also depends on the specific class you play
that is absolutely not how it works lol
(in the earlier thing I meant to say impact of roles, not specs)
specs are very relevant
when u rely on 4 other ppl
yes it absolutely does
It's the same as any other team game
You can play 5v5 in league and as long as you continuously perform above your rank you will rank up eventually
I mean fuji I guess there’s also the phenomenon where the weak link in shuffle finally figures out what he should do after he lost 2 games with you
Even tho you can queue into 4 griefers 10 times in a row and lose despite being better
im also ofc talking about middle rating, not extreme outliers at the top/bottom
But idk I don’t think you can exclude all variables
where you are unevenly matched due to not enough players in your bracket
im aware u can have 50.1% wr and go up
Into a neat vacuum
and where its more tricky
Yeah not sure about top rating in wow
yes but assuming you arent the weak link, the weak link is more often in the enemy team
But you should be able to use that principle at least til 2.4k
so weak links increase your rating
This 100%
same as inting players, they are positive for your mmr
If you're good, the enemy team has 3 potentially bad players, yours only has 2
assuming you dont cause them/you arent one of them
i dont think healers will have that much agency in shuffle if damp goes to shit super fast
thats just me though idk
gonna be like
But using most extreme example. 1 dps has 30k hp. Both healers play 3 rounds with him. That’s where the 3-3 comes from earlier
akin to
jungle in league
where they are all about early
and do nothing after a while
sure but what if enemy healer has 30k hp
why would it be a dps?
then you go 6-0
that is correct yes but if we talk about the dps - they also wont go 6-0 in that described case
they would be 4-2 I think
I actually agree with that tbh based off recent beta shuffle experience with 40% hp buff and new damp
he was talking about his perspective
as a healer
he wont go 4-2
with a dude 30k hp
now its possible that the mmr system is in such a way that your one 6-0 compared to the 2 4-2 will be relevant but if we have a matchmaking system those 30k 0-6 players wont really happen much after your initial 10-20 games
30k hp
hundo P youre going 06
Why are we acting like most games will have a 30k HP dps
I dont know
I’m using extreme example
its going to happen
its not exactly relevnat I also dont know if that is worse for healers or not
yes so in 2/3 of the 30k games he will go 3-3 in 1/3rd he will go 6-0
and in 2/3 the dps will go 4-2 and in 1/3rd dps will go 3-3
now I dont know matchmaking well enough to know which is better for your mmr
I doubt its overly relevant in the grand scheme of things
It's not really a concern for anyone >1.8k anyway
i mean sure
And as Ent said, whether healers have agency or not only matters if you're substantially better/worse than the opposing healer
But I get that it can feel bad
If you have little impact on the result
yea any solo q will feel bad at times
cause there will be games where there is not much you can do
i dont think its little impact
cause you are not gonna be much better
🤙
Starts at 10 and ramps up +25% every minute
ye so like
Up to 100??
So second round of 2 minutes like limb is unhealable
they are kinda off the table ish
So by 4 minutes healers don't have buttons?
gonna oom like crazy instantly

so whoever said healers being good will be deciding factor
not sure i agree completely
Idk if the meta is fast
I'll play with you no matter what spec you want to be buddy 💚
They could still be
I actually think hpal will be really good
They bomb heals but OOM hard. But damp is so fast you don’t even think about OOM. Then you have the immunities
Ye but i mean if the games are decided out of opener
Healers will have agency
If they drag
Prob not
Ye
u ahve to get shit down early
that will also prob turn ppl away
cuz some classes are not gonna be equipped
to play that fastr
Or live when healing dries up
makes big cooldowns a lot stronger aswell
dh dk
Second is unhealable
just use ur shit on cd
Nice
so its back up asap when the damp starts
hello food mans
thats why i hate queueing into tanks cuz sp without a healer feels so bad
It’s shit cause like. The proper answer is nerf healing for balance. But it can be so unfun for healers at the same time to just play in that setting
having a dk grip me into a bear dk dh triple cleave is just so troll
I think with damp the way it is they absolutely could take a lot off the top of CDs
Just landing a CC gonna force so much 1.5min in
idk classes with sub 3min defensives a good be good
the others not so much
bunch of shit rly
I’m actually curious how MW does man
Everyone’s got them rated high
But no external DR and revival and cocoon being so subject to damp
Idk
My barber didn’t say a word while she was cutting my hair on god I’m going back and she’s getting fatty tips the only one to just cut my hair in silence
Basically every caster feels this way. Boomy might have a bit more ability to just run away though
havent beento a barber in almost 2 years gg
@clear pulsar how has that guy gotten even more buff
I figured the meth would take him
Or his mom
Demo feels good because of coil and pet stun
Port / gate
Can really make your own plays at times
Me
Y'all ready for bears to maul you for 30-40% hp?
demo was okay, but you still eventually run out of juice and cant really get off a tyrant with 3 melee dps running at you
im ready for them to just remove guardian as a spec
dude i swear
in 2 days
i have not played 1 single shuffle
that didnt have a lock , a dh or both
Omg, a max rav frenzy maul in prepatch may actually come close to one shotting
We go to the beta build on Tuesday
Face it’s 50% to everything but moonfire lol
Eh it’s ok real DF launches soon. 🤗
Did they hit dark pact again?
Idk if it’s the same as the nerf coming in on Tuesday or dbl nerfs
no shot
who cuts ur hair?
nobody
???????
imean
its al
you guys wanna know what the secret tech is
i won 3 of those rounds by literally waiting in the starting room on my mount and when they open me, i just disperse mounted and run to their starting room and one of the other dps died in that time
then on round 4 they realized it was dumb to go me cuz i did it 3x in a row so they swapped and let me free cast and i just dropped a mindgames amidst the chaos and a dps would auto die
so i won 3 rounds without ever dismounting
tank q's are great high skill
Hit send
i think he lost rating lmao
LOL
its tank q so i mean i cant really do shit but
tank queues i dont unmount until i know theyre not going me
can stay mounted while dispersed
yeah thats giga
BEAR BUFFS
Chile
We are neighbors
Oh ye very close

do u like country music about pickup trucks @tepid spoke

wat
he likes pick up truck country music too
No
I mean
Some songs sure
But i cant remember which on the top of my head
@clear pulsar how is anitta seen in brazil
Shit or no shit
Cause i liker her songs
She's the most popular and the most hated probably too
Mostly by older people, more conservative
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For the most part with up to mid 30s crowd she's very beloved and people are happy with a br artist doing well internationally
For ppl that dont know anitta
But she beefs with some big sertanejo duos sometimes
So she has a decent amount of haters
is there a reason why the wow error messages ahave to take up like 40% of your screen
im gunna go with no on this one
Thats anitta lmaoo
might aswell just get fucked on vid

highschoolers in brazil def jerkin off to that shit
wild
weirdppl
ok she does that shit in every vid

one of those artist uh
Idk the song is a banger
But you seem to think high schoolers jerking off is wild and weird so idk
I mean
Idgaf if she shows azz im gay
I actually have simpathy with ppl that are like her
🤪
The song is good tho
Same I rly like to show my ass so she's just like me fr
👀👀👀👀
Same lmaooo

Ty for the cake mattiu
Np shes like that in all her vids
she the nicki of brazil or wat
Yea lmao
i seen her i think on tiktok
these pants
with the cheeks hanging out
has to be her i saw lol
I dont think gringos like reggaeton
Yeah def not
They are too conservative
She's known internationally but in the US it's for sure 99% latinos and black people cuz she's friends with cardi b and some other artists
Ya
Tbf I have listened to the same playlist for like 10 years
Typical boomer
that song def sucked
and is 100%
carried by her having almost sex
on camera
dont @ me
It has
Doing pendlay rows
I had the entire thing on mute
i did mute it
Lmaooo
lol
You guys never perrean
Lmaoo
I have soft spot for latinas tho, for sure
Lol
its white girls music
in here
but i dont do parties if we do its like weed parties
so some kendrick better vibes
I was a competitive athlete most of my life, never got into the party / club life
:<
Always felt so weird
did parties exist in ur time pylon
Lmao
Alcohol just not worth
@viscid remnant WG
Yea I shoulda had more balance, but that’s the way it was
I feel you
I respect the discipline, even if you know you can do some stuff and balance it out, strong discipline is nice too
I never go out either
@viscid remnant WG
You're def lying you're way out there all the time
Or a wife/husbando
ty\
So i have more freedom
Yea I mean, live your best life... I just can’t relate lol. Im very boring
tyty
time to kill some blues!
ur titties is strong?
Ye
Bench heavy single today, been a few years lol
220 in freedom units
strong man titties is very important
This looks like something I'd get hurt doing
do them chest supported with a incline bench
Ye that works then you can move to free weight
But honestly with pendlays its the most str ive gotten
Then i do regular rows with 80kilos pretty ez
Yea chest supported, similar stimulus, less technical
Honestly im motivated again
I cant find balance tho
When im motivated with thw gym im demotivated from wow
And the other way around
I was playing like 24/7 for the last couple months and i gained 15kilos lmao
Sitting at 95 atm cant even do 10 pullups with my fatass
iam not sure
if to bulk up
cuz idk last time i bulked
i felt kinda shiat
heavy and shit cardio
Yea i do too but thats cause
not rly
i eat junkfood like 1 time per month max
idk iam kinda like
It sucks to feel heavy
WG
wtf?
i care about ur win
the real win is honor grind
i need honor more than ev
still missing wrist belt boots ring and helmet
for fullygear
but iam rly good geared considering i hit 80 yesterday
going to do 2s withmy brother that logs on the game
pog or pog
stream
Typos leggo today
first run ent
wtf dont
Lol
Like ppl make it seem
And i think like
If you on gear
You are much more motivated
Cause you know
ur balls will be small
You are wasting money on it and shit
Motivation comes and goes
Yea for a while
You must have discipline



