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I endorse
Balance aff resto is based
Root beam also gets better in DF cause all these turds can’t soul shape out of it anymore
And now rudar playing with thug. Now we’re talking
its a super value 1 point for sure
FUJI
they cana do guardian aff dmgur DR
with rake now
how is thats noe BUL SHIT feral got NOTHING
hrm
Wow ipod and fuji agree for once, insane
fuji tell everyone im right
it’s disgusting
feral get shafted again
and for what
for no dmg
fuk u blissard
lol what is he even so mad about
wow twitter is wild
what she said wasn't even bad or anything, from his response I thought she said something actually aggressive
Yeah I saw that lol
anyone have a resto pvp build they can link?
Hmm, supposedly on beta tanks take the place of one dps in a shuffle now

Kinda sucks cause now dps queues will get even longer and tanks will be just as long since healers will always be the limiting factor in that set up
@stray sigil go on beta and confirm
i dont think Qs are gonna be any issue in DF. not at first ata least
I wonder if dps would be fine having queue times increase a lot if it means that occasionally you do two rounds as dps tank healer vs dps dps healer.
It’ll be fast early S1 Atleast
that can't ever be a thing
And if people are taking rating hit
To leave tank games
I’m sure they won’t mind a little longer wait
Why can't it be a thing iPod
I dunno, if tanks suck that bad maybe they'll remove tanks 50% damage penalty
in that situation, if both dps just sit the one dps tf can anyone do
Good lmao. Keep them all sub challenger
Prot paladin apparently counted as healer
That’s also interesting
Ya
That sounds even worse. Can a protadin pull off a win vs dps dps healer?
Well they can do well I’m sure. But not everyone is drainer. I’m sure most are blessing of summer monkeys
ur talking a diff language
In prepatch on prot I've been doing venthyr
Drainerx was really good at prot paladin healing. But that was an s1 thing. I think they’ve nerfed it since then
I wish more dps could have fun with tank matches and try adapting. A lot of times you can succeed by just bursting the tank but they're often so scared of hitting a tank
i haven't looked at any palaadin tree. does prot have a lot of healing now or is it the same
Blizzard won't be removing shuffle so I think they'll find a way to make tanks be able to compete
If it means buffing their damage in arenas they can do that these days

Pykan is back yes
sup davider
I guess we'll probably get a blue post tomorrow about it
Might be tied to the fact some people got their rating reset
I'll miss the fun I had of trying to figure out how to win at least one match with that dps at risk of going 0-6
Spamming regrowth on the ret who can't find his bubble button
did prot pal always have sac?
My proudest moment in prepatch was winning a round with a 36k hp feral
bro th ere's 0 point me looking thru this paly tree, i have ZERO idea what they had before lmao
Lmao
Tanks also take 50% more damage to offset it
that doesn't make them healers
Ye
How often are those tank matches showing up vs healer matches
👍

Tank arena players are subhuman. And I’d bet most arena players don’t want to deal with it. This is blizzards compromise if this is intended. Let tanks have some fun at 1500
I'll find a way to get at least 1800.
Btw u can play arena as intended and play healer for this thrill. Don’t have to miss anything
I've been doing a ton of healing on bear and even brewmaster in shuffle to make sure the squishy dps lives long enough
Been healing enough to win the rounds.
do u just vivify 4 times or does monk have something else lol
“Ton of healing” = healing just enough so that someone on the other team with barely any healing dies first
Given the only tanks that can't do anything with that being warrior and DK seems fine and I rarely see warriors. DKs make up for it with abom limb demolishing
I guess if it's that hard for a tank to climb if they replace a dps it'll be an easy soloist title
Wdym. There’s gonna be one person , two max who gets it for the spec
i just don't understand why u want it to basically be pver press all buttons and kill someone within 15 seconds instead of ya know aactually getting to play the game and do whatt makes wow pvp cool
That gonna be you?
See, I find any pvp match over 2 minutes or so boring.
Then you don’t like arena
ok even then, 2 minutes isn't 15 seconds
🤷♂️
I didn't like arena much before shuffle. I love how fast tank matches are personally.
Feels like the perfect speed, instant queue, match lasts 10 minutes, get my conquest and move on.
Anyways
I'll giggle if to balance things they increase tank dps in arenas and adjust their damage taken penalty.
@vestal citrus I can actually see bdk being kinda annoying As a dps slot. I remember one game as fury this mfer just gripped me over and over again away from everyone else and I was losing my mind
ya
I think this is the best they can do without actually disenfranchising that entire player base
All 12 of them
Probably actually will see a fair amount of tanks early on tbh. Easy 3 vaults
if they really wanted to go out of their way to increase tank dmgur and make them take an amount of dmgur similar to a dps thru modifiers or whatever, thats fine i guess. Although i don't get the point. just play ur dps spec cuz its better designed as a dps spec...which is what ur doing at thata point...dpsing
and thats wasting way toom uch of the 1 pvp dev's time anyway
Feral was a ton of fun when I dabbled
Probably need to setup feral UI
Convoke
RF/4PC
Yeah
n bear still gets to be king in RBG like
They’re counted as healers tho apparently
is any spec better at base defeense / flag running?
Well if protadin replaces a healer, who knows
dh is good cuz they can meld + the vision but is that really better than bear or just like...an alternative

DH is normally the best. It’s just that sleeper exists
it still has that though doesn't it
Shorter Duration
u can still sit on the flag with brambles like vdh do immolate right?
idk yea i can def see vdh with rele being nuts though
Yeah brambles still there
I can just imagine the salt if protadin isn't tuned to be a healer cause of the risk of all dps going 3-3. Very easy to lose mmr going 3-3 in shuffle
And also. Decent players will climb out of tank bracket and never see them again
Which is bis
im hard assuming 3-3 is gonna make u gain and there's gonna be really high inflation, which is fine
Prot paladins who don’t know how to heal will keep losing their games while dps will only have prot paladin on their team every once in a while and have every opportunity to climb out
Yeah
They’ll stay Subhuman bracket
They’re just cracked cause prepatch
They’re really strong beta but idk
Not like prepatch
I hope we get a post of some vision at least even if they outright say "we don't expect tanks to climb" but I'd put money on them finding ways to balance it long term especially if participation skyrockets cause of shuffle
Fury looks ok and arms looks worse
if tanks haven't been balanced around in arena for the entirety of the game, then i don't really know why that would happen for shuff yea
So much u can do with arms ya
idk, at the highest level all specs are hard but arms war players still be chargin' in, storm bolting, and doing watever else pver shit is meta aat like every other level of play
ig i get what u mean though that arms has a lot more skill expression than like...aff or something though lol
and the reflect lol
1s gpies 🥶
well at least putting a cd on gpie made it so mage wasn't a problem AT ALL in shadowlands
even in my shiat elo it was p much destro battles every game
interesting time
iwanna meet the dev that thought gpie with no cd is a good idea
wat about the dev that thought triune ward was a good idea?
true
TRUE
MOOD LOL
I was splay rdru
It was nice comp
Idk we both full haste 0 vers
Games last 1 minute
Win or lose

Our hpala wasnt very happy with it though


any pvp builds for feral atm?
struggling to put something together
not enough points to get both convoke and feral frenzy since i want to go necro
or should i just leave convoke out
Couple feral builds in the pins
https://gyazo.com/d211a7ff344861be74cbcdfd553f27d6 playing this build in 2v2 with dh is there anything i would like to chance and why? 🤔
Don't take NS cd reduction since it doesnt stack with the conduit
alright then switching for healing bonus, thanks
It's rly hard to make a sensible build rn cuz stuff that synergize are kinda locked too far for only 5 points
Some people like invigorate right now
Budding leaves is weaker than the text says cuz it's bugged
does well honed instict stack? probably not?
no
this is why i droped sudden ambush and carnivorous
i get them from conduits
conduits are only visually bugged
despite showing weaker effects
as i said
Idk tho not a big change
visually bugged
but i can put apex that way which is stronger
Idk how much mileage you'll really get out of frenzyband and berserk cdr in pvp
when i multidot everyone
i could drop both them and get SOTF too
since i run COLD
as as lego
This is what I setlled on running, playing kyrian
Ofc dropping stuff on class tree depending on matchup
I think the bite stuff on the right is rly weak but nothing else would rly make a bit difference either I dont think
At least in solo shuffle
Can prob swap it over to MOC + regrowth 5% dr or something
u def want more
invigorate does not
in fact
any duration extension cancels the hasted buff effect
if it extends duration
damn
alittle thing i've been doing is
i extend invigorate hots @ 1s duration
usually it's done all of its healing needed by then
so ur not stuck with an ally who's suddenly hotless cause invig burned them out
morning david 
hi
you are already hot
She is not hot
With that fucking Bull in her nose
Disgusting
Man playing dk vs disc in wrath
Seems like the best thing to do in life
will we be going double convoke/swarm in DF pvp? or just one
i dont havr beta fuk u
wat spec
resto
i don't think so but who knows
def atleast swarm, not sure about swarm split
the 40% buff doesn't seem nearly as bad as you would think
people still def die, u just don't get 1 shot
i mean didnt expect nothing less from face
his build he posted eqrlier
also@complete ass
haha
REAL
i liked hotw face
was shitting out giga moonfires, they swapped me, went bear, FR twice
love it
saw the luscious environment
walked 30feet forward
saw a dude on a horse
got clapped
never played again
yeah i realize souls games aren't for me
where u run in and Pepega to the top
not sit there being frustrated
wow doesn't frustrate me that much tbh
i try to keep the mindset that there's something i could have done better and there always is
the problem with darksoul games
u need to perma tryhard
🙂
not good
also im not good so i don't get insulted by losing to apes or zug zug lmao
Hahaha true
i was actually soo good in s1 of bfa, but i quit early, and in s4 of bfa
and after that iam just a clown
in s4 of bfa, me and my team actually peaked
we were farming everything and everyone
but we got glad and pce it
after a month teams that we were farming
3.4k
after inflation
That’s giga
the junlgers that we were killing in opener
running with r1 titles
but after s4 of bfa, iam like super bad
maybe cuz i dont rly care
i mean i get angry when i lose vs apes
but not as much as before
and also playing with a disc priest is my life struggle
here in wotlk
What’s wrong with them
Why no hpal
its like being an amublance
for a healer
always 2 apes chasing my healer
idk cuz disc is fun to play, till u face 2x melee
and u are not playing with jungle or rm
we cant rly do much with Enten
Rogue mage looks even more donkey in WOTLK than retail
they can lichborn / zerker the Entens fear
trinket my cyclone
and there is no more DR's
cuz he is dead
the only way to win vs tsg in wrath is
when they go me
for some reason
unsure why
idk
dont think so rm is that bad
in retail if i play good and pre bear / shit the goes
i still have to trinket wall sometimes
and here if i pre bear iam actually fine
this is the worst thing vs rmp
in any season
u actually play good and pre kite/ use your shit before a go
Do u prefer wotlk to retail?
and u still have to trinket wall
idk wrath is actually so simple
and 80% of the gameplay is your knowledge
or ZUG
u either zug and kill something insta or u need knowledge
classes are simple
@viscid remnant
he HR it this time KEKW
Davider yoinked the guys torch last week
i think, i would rather play pre patch than wrath at this point
but its too bugged

It’s not bugged really much anymore it’s just untuned as fuck
J cna fix ur fps
even tho i know my PC is old, and i have to buy new one, but i dont wanna deal with it rn
but how did i lose 50% of my fps
think i tried this /script SetCVar("GxAllowCachelessShaderMode",0)
and then my combo poitns started to appear
after like 3-4 sec
no joke
sup ep



just a regular everyday normal motherfucker
Yep
Bis song no?
The 2nd versio
He's back... And he's mildly upset.
www.jonlajoie.com
@tiny oar
Remastered when ?
Wait i actually figured there is a ruskis flag in here
Good times, when sky was blue and clouds white
disc is great
but not in kitty
tbh kitty already kinda mordor comp
dont think we had a single kitty mirror even ignoring the healer
still dont have any KT weapon

like disc needs protection
which feral/war cant really give
something like rmp still a top tier comp
php too
Paladin hunter priest? Is that just Cupid?
I bet boomie dh rsham was op as fuck in wrath
i mean vs rmp we have not bad peels for disc
but vs tsg
its sooo bad
php is cupid ye
but CUpid is a cringe name imo
ep wheres davider
he is online on bnet
tell him to watch new bleach

and the rain will kill us all
amen
if u wanna see some action
gotta be the center of attraction
make sure taht they got their eyes on u
new ep dacider
go2s?
maybe i gear bm for next 6 days @stray sigil
tf u want to play hunter now
bored.
pylon
iam so glad
that u are bak
because without u
ipod goes too crazy
my c button not workign good
today
every day its a new one that doesnt work good
ty david
cupid
dunno cupid was never really commonly used
so many weird team names
scooby doo
does phdk have another name too?
"ret rogue" sounds liek when scooby says "ruh roh"
I know
Vanguards cleave si def ret dk
SPICY CHICKEN CLEAVE
wrath is so dogshit its insane
idk like
half the games
i feel like i can legit do nothing
but last game opener was so shit
i shield and pom u and he sapped me
i guess im trolling 4head
idk we started rly good
then i feeded too much
i mean last game, i opened before him to prevent purges on u, cycloned priest before rogue opened
cant be better opener tho
but the fact the priest can stay in the middle and spam mana burn
na i shouldve gotten combat
cuz iam sitting 5 sec gouge into kidney
they dont even do damage
they just mana burn
but ye its insane how u are doing max dps and he doesnt heal
XD
cuz in 30 sec i can play for like 8 maybe
gogue kidney cheap
then its evasion
so still cant play
idk its just so simple
that nothing to do
also this week vs first week its so bad to play a melee
like half of the shit is dodged parried
and random shitted
and they are backpedling
most op shit in wrath
I still enjoy it a lot
ngl
expected worse
Dodge and parry and resist in classic was fucking dumb
Just rng to waste your whole button
its ok come to na retail in a week and carry me
@viscid remnant ppl actually
Vs rogue priest
Feral opens and priest aoe buffs
In africa
So they gain combat
monkaW
So are tanks being swapped to dps in solo shuffle? Is that a rumor?
thats on beta
did u watch bleach?
2maro
ur fake pod
how am i fake fuji
u just are
ur fake
xuz u act like u know lotr but u dont
basic question: who is boromirs brother?
fake
thats my final answer
yea perfect
ur isildur
im elrond
u go die in river like a.bitch
CAST IT INTO TH FIRE
cringe
ur cringe
I am debating a warlock alt
Warlock is fun
Yes
Ya just for shuffle. Also would help to know how warlocks actually work so I can heal against it better. I have a feeling they’ll be main villain of Dragonflight
I’ll probably fuck with all 3
DF should be a good learn how classes work type of expac
Cba to do that in SL
But yes mostly aff lmao
all will be tanky
Lock doesn't have that many buttons compared to boomy
Demo feels really strong at the moment after those buffs
play aff then y dont need to micro pet
Aff doesn't have pet
bro in 8.3 im just getting immolates out and my pet is already behijd the pillar almost dead

Last time I managed pet was water elemental in MOP
not healer
This should go fine
not pog
MW is #2
Puzzle slowly leaving this dumb class we love to see it
😏
pylon on the copium
So the 40% buff doesn’t feel terrible btw
On beta
Shit def still dies
It’s just not 1 shot David
idk so far df seems
Idk feels p good
not a good game
I really miss fleshyC tho
prepatch a whole fiesta
Playing retail again made me used to it
I’m down bad
You get dragon in a week ur fine
Every prepatch is fiesta
also every expansion is a fiesta
Dragonflight gonna be fun, I'm excited
good
So you should technically be on this chart no? It’s 2100-2400
Disc definitely benefitted from last round of changes
U might be the only warlock not playing affliction rn tbh
But yeah idk if those counts are right
Maybe I need to start pushing....
He’s over 2.4
Dude watching rudar play last night was such a treat
The way he handled a WW as dbl dps was so technical
So good
I mean. You and I both agreed that we don’t mind SL gameplay. But now it’s got way better systems surrounding the pvp
Oh you don’t like how the classes all play similar
Bone dust brew keefers 1 min go on sweep are same in SL and DF for example
“A treat”lmao
I don’t know anymore
Hate it here
Most classes have at least something new
@haughty compass ❤️
r u sutpid fuji?
Feral in shambles
BRO
puzzle literally asks
r u between 2.1-2.4k
fuji says "naw i stopped at 2.2"
BRO GET TH IS GUY A FUCKING TEACHER
Read like 2 more lines below that iPod lol
eART my passs
wat
DH are not that bad on beta btw
I actually kinda dislike evoker. Maybe cause idk what they do. But healer or dps randomly everyone goes to 20% health from full lol
Literally one second prior
is evoker out tomorrow ?
XD
"catchup gear" when its like 252
Hate
so cooked theres not thing to do
Everyone playing beta again
i am
Beta shuffles back to like 3-4min queue
UR SO CRINGE
y
cuz u take a break from a grindy mmo by playing other grindy mmos...

Fuji I understand you
i would have played wotlk
grind ur own brain into dust
but its too late
You’re a bar filler
ye well its too late
when it wasn't out? lol
i was in it prepatch copium
Nice Fuji
Maybe we get new build
and ok if fuji is a bar filler go fill a bar in some single player jrpg ors omething
new world? u digust me
its cringe
y
xaryu was trying to get mad ppl to play it
anad the econ is permaa fucked
the pvp and pver sucks
i on fresh server
im not gonna pvp or pve
im just running around doing random shit
i would just play ff14
but i dont like any of the classes
wait really hav eu tried them all?
ye
I don’t understand getting upset at someone for playing a game lol
What am i eating
czu fuji being cringe and i need to tech him to have good taste
dont try to reason with pod
iPod just likes flaming fuji
lol
ok i flame anyone who playas only mmos
what about mmorpgs
Relax every1
Tbh if I didn’t play wow I’d not play games
Same
ok u guys are cringe bommers so i give u a slight pass, fuji is young enough to have no excuse
What’s wrong David
Iam hungry
if u wanna y'aknow spend time with u wife n kids instead of playing video games
Meat and veggies
THATS WHAT IM SAYING DUMBASS
that i know of
i play osrs new world and league atm
I’m supposed to be working out right now, but I’m feeling under the weather... :/
Yeah I carve out time to play wow cause I enjoy it. But I’m not young gamer anymore. So I don’t need to fill time with diff games idk
nutella toast
PB and ranch
Jesus puzzle
i would def say there's a lot of games y'all would enjoy in times were wow is boring pykan and puzzle, but ig its hard to find what u woudl enjoy sometimes
@tiny oar would approve
cuz there's so many games out atma
I have plenty of things I put off doing because of wow lmao
Listen to this
Plenty of books to read or movies to watch
well and likewise there's a lot of great games worth playing lol
shooter is usually boring alone vs. with friends especially cod i agree. U sohuld try filling bar in a jrpg like DQ11 or something
What do u do in shooters fuji
Just public lobby and frag out?
Or do u do matchmaking games
In COD
yeah
that was the last cod i bought
I’ll be honest. Idk why y’all grind so much for perks and unlocking guns and this and that
When a new cod comes out a year later
24/7 double xp weekend nuke town running it down with the remington farming some scoundrels
puzzle its the saame exact thing with wow and patches lol
I mean I guess the same with tier
But we still play the same game tho and have the chieves
Idk
Kinda diff
I also hate the gear treadmill reset in wow tho 🤷♂️
kinda...but we still farm like complete animals at the start of every patch
Yeah
and no number of achieves makes that diff
Yea idk if evoker sucks and isn’t fun
hey u were literally the one asking for a valor system updaate yesterday
✌️
Fixing what they got. Not that I prefer incentives to do keys
And a good olfash
yeaa, but like...whata would fix it?
its a system that is inherently linked to making raiders do m+
Separate gear with scaling ilvls
||Did the old man die yet ||
no
He too old
squad 0 is older
and regarding the valor system, true that would 'fix it' but like i think blizz likes m+ and raiad being linked
everyone should watch bleach thousaand year blood war, right davider?
Thats the spirit
Raid and arena. My two preferred things 🤔
But hear me out puzzle
was legion the deaath of wow puzzle?
raiding is fun
No
U raid 1 day clear all the raids and then u can pvp all week
Its a good balance
I think so tbh. Everything they did was good for one expansion. But them taking it as the modern formula overstayed it’s welcome quick.
thats a cracked wow take
u should tweet that and @ everyone u can aanda see what ppl say lol
M+ers might disagree
Ppl that dont like legion also like dipping pizza into ketchup
idk, i feel like most ppl call legion their favorite xpac
i get ur saying that trying to move that formula over to the next 2 xpaacs is more of a problem but
ppl are stll gonna rage over ur first point
But borrowed power, infinite grind, world quests instead of dailies, really chonky external systems to grind for
Those were all things people started to hate and wanted less of or gone
By the time thr 3rd iteration of it showed up yet again in SL
Solo shuffle title gonna be so exclusive
if they did the fixes of mid/late legion
on day 1
on every xpac
every xpac would be almost perfect
but they dont
like SL towards the end
was pretty good
Yeah I think 9.1.5 would have been a good starting point for SL
I liked SL because I met cool friends
Residuum vendor + reworked azerite armor for more rings was good too
they purposefully delay QOL and not cancer game for later patches
😘
like its so obvious
Uldir was fucking awful
the fixes can be thought of by a 3 year old
Probably
But I also hated legion
I quit after EN because the game was actually bad

So I never played it when they actually fixed it
ye but thats like
And that’s my point
Legion was the start of death of wow imo
and didnt learn from legion
🤷♂️
wow was already starting to majorly decline in wod
I think they just over corrected from WODs “we have nothing to do”
i know u mean through systems its 'dying' but saying dying is just like..making me think of losing subs n shit
But also I do believe the player base is getting older
WOD was what 8 years ago?
So maybe people not THD want less shit to do 😂
yes
aalmost exactly actually lol
hvaing stuff to do is good
having too much to do is bad
its a tightrope balance idk
Dying in the sense that all of the recurring themes to modern wow got players fed up over time in a frog in slowly boiling water situation until they all lost their shit in 9.1 and quit in droves

I think with m+ and vault having less required shit to do day to day is good
Idk, just having homies to play with makes it fun
it takes them like a year each time to make the game normal
Slam 3s and m+ and I’m good
Yeah
ok no1 told u to do that lol
I mean….that’s
like legendary stuff in legion / azerite neck traits+corruptions in bfa / cov shit in sl
they just need to not do that
but they repeat the same problems
every time
braindamgur
That’s DF tho
At this point everything is extracurricular
There is no right way to play wow
Are gonna complain
i hope i don't get bored in DF
That there’s not enough to do
nothing to do = queue some 3s u fucking piglet
Players like ipod are why we had infinite grinds 😡
Blizzard so worried about losing the iPods
Only person who could complain about nothing to do is Annie fuschia
naw, i don't want infinite grind. I said before, i liked how they did ZM
100% achievements
ZM was fine
ZM was like...2 WQs a day and a lot of extra shit to do for mounts for fun
Yea lol


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