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grand mesa
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pull them back away from their healer. ursols, stampeding roar around pillar. but generally yeah just stay 40

worthy carbon
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how big is the diff between night elf and tauren as feral?

clear pulsar
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Nothing too big, you can still use warstomp as a ministun to setup a cyclone, or after other stuns just to annoy and get an extra global in before they can recover

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Everyone would say nelf is a bit better but a decent amount of druids are still tauren even after they made cross faction queues

unkempt aurora
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There's surely going to be a rework to the druid class tree right...it's just so, so bad for Boomkin. Lost incap roar, thick hide and well honed instincts, can't get mighty bash...

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cant use rejuv or swiftmend in moonkin form

clear pulsar
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What do you mean?

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As boomie you can take more stuff than you had access to at once in shadowlands

unkempt aurora
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sure i guess you're right in a way, but there's so many dead talents had to take to get that build. Also no improved barkskin and verdent heart, hibernate is good vs druids so need to change a point in those match ups, improved sunfire useful for various forms of PvP, not getting renewal in this build.

grand mesa
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Class tree kinda sucks but it’s whatever

unkempt aurora
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i get that no build should be able to get everything, but there's just so many feels bad talents taken...and given most specs have GAINED CC, really think we should be able to get both incap and mighty bash, or vortex

grand mesa
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Wish they connected a bit more and reduced the 3 pointers some. But oh well. Maybe it’ll see some change later

lime light
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no changes

grand mesa
lime light
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yt dead?

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or is my internet

viscid remnant
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ir

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works normal for me

unkempt aurora
grand mesa
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Lol

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@stray sigil

lime light
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i saw it

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very cool

grand mesa
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Maybe wrath ain’t so bad after all

lime light
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cuz DF is legit alpha version of alpha

viscid remnant
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real\

lime light
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nothing works, nothing is tested, abilities that worked for years

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are bugged

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now we are only missing

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combat bug to come back

grand mesa
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Oh FFS

lime light
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and MC bug to comeback

viscid remnant
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its not good puzzle

grand mesa
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Well tbh that’s not bad

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Cause u can climb out of tank rating

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That way

viscid remnant
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ye but games will be max damp probably

grand mesa
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For dps

viscid remnant
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cuz of the tanks

lime light
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idk i think its better than playing without a healer

viscid remnant
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ye for sure

grand mesa
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I agree

viscid remnant
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but worse than deleting tanks

lime light
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idk tanks dont heal as much from what i saw

grand mesa
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Since tanks only against tanks dps will play in tank game s

lime light
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they do insane damage tho

grand mesa
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Up until like really high rating lol

viscid remnant
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idk ep did u see rextroy protwarr

lime light
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nope

viscid remnant
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he played protwarr dk in 2s

grand mesa
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This way most tanks are all 1400

viscid remnant
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and they never died

lime light
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tbh i only saw a guardian

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everywhere

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lol

viscid remnant
grand mesa
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I’d like for them to delete tanks

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But this is better

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Than nothing for dps

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If you climb high I doubt you’ll see many tank games now. Maybe who knows

lime light
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ok the honor talent

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is actually broken

lime light
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q 3s @viscid remnant @tropic schooner or busy

tropic schooner
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could do

viscid remnant
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can go

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we go or no

tropic schooner
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we go

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had to finish my 3s game on pala

thorny venture
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Some tanks have decent off healing

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With high rav frenzy a bear swiftmend can save a dps once

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Protadin of course is the king of it

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BrM feels the worst. Vivify just doesn't do much

grave breach
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so pvp is not looking good for DF? Cause i thought ive seen the light on the end of the tunnel

lime light
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more like whole expansion is not looking good, since its the most bugged shit ever

grave breach
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well damn

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whats so bugged?

grand mesa
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I think pvp looking good tbh

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But gotta see how it plays out

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And how often they tune

grave breach
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well isnt pvp always broken in the first few weeks of a new expac?

grand mesa
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Ya

grave breach
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i remember SL beeing a press and pray kinda thing

grand mesa
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From a systems standpoint there’s not much to dislike imo

grave breach
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yeah ive heard that there isnt really much you have to grind out

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so you can just log and play

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gets me excited

grand mesa
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Shuffle, no ilvl upgrading, alt accessible, no borrowed power systems bullshit to grind, BOA honor tokens

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There’s a lot of good stuff

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They just need to tune well

grave breach
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what do you think about the 40% buff?

grand mesa
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I like it

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Less one shots healers can’t top as easily

grave breach
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yeah im in the same boat. but im still kinda worried

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idk

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i just hope that it plays out well

grand mesa
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Ya

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I mean the way I see it even if tuning is sus just from a systems standpoint it’s infinitely better than SL

grave breach
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true

grand mesa
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So I’ll probably like it more regardless

stray sigil
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mroe hp = bad cuz aff gonna be even more meta

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pog

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in its current state atleast

grave breach
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yeah im scared of them lol

stray sigil
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everyone is kidna seeing no change go to locks

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and kinda monkasin

grave breach
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i dont even know what to do vs locks

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im kinda new to feral

fair mirage
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Perish 🔪

grave breach
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on my warrior ill just zug zug and pray

grand mesa
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Fuji u see the thing I link

stray sigil
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i dont think currently theres a class that can deal with locks

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dps wise

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maybe dh

grand mesa
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800k health 750k dark pact

stray sigil
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ye saw it on twitter last night

grand mesa
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I have about 380 I think on beta rn post buff

grave breach
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jesus

grand mesa
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Even the buffed LB 1 shot gimmick from enh wouldn’t be able to 1 shot lock lol

stray sigil
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@magic mistkan

lime light
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i dont understand

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whats the connection between more hp = affi more meta

stray sigil
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cuz more hp means

lime light
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if u mean dark packt it will be tuned down for sure

stray sigil
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burst class

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= dog shit

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so its like

kindred patrol
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If you can't burst someone down in a cc chain you have to rely on rot and mana, which affliction excels at

stray sigil
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dh and aff lock

lime light
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i dont agree with it

stray sigil
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ep

kindred patrol
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BFA showed us that is a fact of slow time to kill metas

lime light
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u can also put it this way, more hp = more time to outheal affis dmg

stray sigil
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lets take a class like ww

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they already nerfed ww burst

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and u had 40% more hp

lime light
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it makes non sens what u saying about hp and dh and affi being good

stray sigil
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what do u think happens

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to a class like this

kindred patrol
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did they increase mana pools? mana regen? no, they only hurt the ability to burst someone to death in a small time frame

stray sigil
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more hp absolutely promotes high consistent dmg class what

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and theres not a lot of em anymore nowadays

safe heart
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Enjx is 1233 rated
I cannot be stopped

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Glad push tonight at 7 on YouTubeStream

livid wasp
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so lock gonna own the ladder?

stray sigil
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if it stays klike this

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probably yes

livid wasp
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cant lock ever suck

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blizzards pet

stray sigil
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nop sry

clear pulsar
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It sucked for 2 months in BFA

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9.0 all specs were pretty mediocre

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Then 9.0.5 saved them before season ended

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So they all got their glads and rank 1s anyway

grand mesa
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I cannot stand locks

viscid remnant
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@clear pulsar @grand mesa @stray sigil

grand mesa
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Just give him time

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But also I thought this was hilarious

clear pulsar
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Ok thats aight

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He wants something out of the community

viscid remnant
grand mesa
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But yeah he’ll be back sooner or later. Like always

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We said same thing about face

teal sentinel
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Can you get Glad Mount with solo shuffle atm?

grand mesa
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No

stray sigil
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leaving cuz u feel like u dont contribute is sus

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90% of this server doesnt contribute

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kekw

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and we have 500 dps ferals trying to contribute

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u see

stone breach
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Never forget: Fuji toxic btw

viscid remnant
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kappa

stray sigil
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wrong

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not toxic

slender tinsel
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rating unchanged 5 games in a row solo ranked shuffle

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any1 knows wsup?

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winnin like 5/6

stone breach
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There's a bug, see bluepost

slender tinsel
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fk sake

stone breach
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Will be fixed Tuesday

mild sigil
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okay can someone explain

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why did i get 0 rating for 3 ques in row

grave pecan
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read up lmao

stray sigil
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mmr of the lobby is lower than ur cr

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but also buggd

mild sigil
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yeah but 3 ques in row

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3x6

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so aids

stray sigil
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why do u care about cr in prepatch though

mild sigil
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cause you can get 2.1 enchant still and gear upgrade?

stray sigil
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dotn think u can get the enchant anymore

edgy shale
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fuji doesnt contribute

clear pulsar
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@vestal citrus you watch CSGO?

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Faze just went out 0-3

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Against team from Kosovo

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5.5mill dollar earned team vs 60k dollars earned team

viscid remnant
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rofl

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faze is so sussy

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let me guess

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rain feed ?

lime light
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do u rememeber if we played enough games for cap VerySadCat

edgy shale
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u need cap EP

lime light
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iam so tired, and its just beginning

clear pulsar
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No like

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They choked honestly

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The kosovo team is legit enough

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It's in the major on lan

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Faze just choked

viscid remnant
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i think yes ep @lime light

daring herald
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Did they remove drinking in arena or am I stupid? Or both?

stray sigil
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also ipod yes

viscid remnant
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Face

stray sigil
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but i was gonna put him in a different category

clear pulsar
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Feji talks shit but

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The reality of it was

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He messaged me everyday

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Desperate to bring me back

stray sigil
lethal ember
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Any prepatch resto builds?

clear pulsar
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Ez predictions

viscid remnant
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ye

edgy shale
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dacivder how much did u pvp tofay?

tropic schooner
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we did like 20 games

grand mesa
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damn 18k moonfire

clear pulsar
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Yeah dude it owns

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You can do 3k dps just with surge and moonfire

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I have a macro to cast on my target's target if its an enemy

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So it's like just throw it out there all the time

grave pecan
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what arena frames are people using atm, gladius is ugly as fuck and leaves the base arena frames there?

tepid spoke
viscid remnant
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Ye

grave pecan
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Sarena is bugged atm

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you cant target people with gladius so that is ass

grand mesa
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I suspect that’s better for dps? People can climb out of tank bracket now

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Oh another thing too. Prot paladin is considered a healer apparently

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Right?

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The prot paladins who are use to just running around in circles and then blessing of summers

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Gonna be surprised when they’re stuck as healer lmao

grand mesa
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Good

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They largely all hover in Mordor MMR never to be seen from again once you climb out

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They can duke it out there and have their tank games

stray sigil
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wacthing foxy q guard druid

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he got like 10 keybinds max

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just spamming 1 bind

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almost 2k

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but guardian isnt braindead

grand mesa
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Bro

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He’s got one big button for thrash

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And another button for moonfire

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LOL

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I was watching him last night

stray sigil
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lol

edgy shale
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who tf says guardian isnt braindead?

stray sigil
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u

edgy shale
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i say that?

safe heart
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fr?

grand mesa
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Jfc

safe heart
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i guess u get the mounts for free right

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idk

clear pulsar
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THE MURLOC MOUNT IS FOR 1 YEAR SUB????

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The ratfucks

safe heart
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if i boost a character on wotlk can it fly and ride mounts and stuff out the box

grand mesa
safe heart
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i just wanna redeem the free mount i got with the 12month thing

grand mesa
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For wut

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Leveling a dk?

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Yeah

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I did that

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Fucking miserable

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But ijustwantthemount

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Got it done

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And made it out

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I think it was supposed to be advertisement to get people to try wrath

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All it did was confirm to me that I hate old wow now and I cba to level

clear pulsar
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Is it a cultural thing

grand mesa
clear pulsar
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Cuz like

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Ye I wanted the mount

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But it wasnt worth loathing thru leveling the dk

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I did 20 mins of it and uninstalled

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Why do you just keep on doing all this shit you seemingly hate

stray sigil
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its the same thing

grand mesa
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You were like a third of the way there

stray sigil
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as lvlign a dk on live

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lol

clear pulsar
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Yeah you wont see me leveling alts on live either

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???

stray sigil
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stfu bitch

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fuk u

grand mesa
clear pulsar
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Explains a lot

grand mesa
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@stray sigil

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this feral is palkying to win

stray sigil
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and i bet he still does no dmg

haughty compass
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Hey I am looking for gaurdian talents for arena

safe heart
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the kyrian double dip does good dmg im pretty sure

clear pulsar
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It isn't better than the 15% dmg from self bond

grand mesa
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think they fixed that

clear pulsar
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No shot lol

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Yeah they did

grand mesa
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it made more sense for rdruid to do it for feral

safe heart
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how come u dont kyrian bond my sp puzzle

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tf

wise valley
grand mesa
safe heart
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i need this parse

grand mesa
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evoker pvp discord dead

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wb pykan

haughty compass
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Tbh I didn’t think y’all would notice lol

grand mesa
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it still cracks me up

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that u looked at

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who the heck would downvote u

haughty compass
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I knew it was you

grand mesa
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🙂

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honestly

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being able to thumbsdown ur positive vibes post in evoker

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makes me wish

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we could react in this discord

haughty compass
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For dk mount? Or whatever

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Cba.

grand mesa
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@stray sigil

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Icy Veins

Dont forget to head over to Hillsbrad Foothills during the 18th-anniversary event! There are two vendors selling unobtainable items for Marks of Honor and Timewarped Badges. The item level of the gear sold by the vendors is currently 164, Blizzard most likely forgot to update it. (Thanks to @Ogym...

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do we care about any of these items? idk if any look coo

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i hate fomo

grand mesa
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are u searching your own name u weirdo

haughty compass
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Was scrolling up to see what I missed lol

grand mesa
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LOL

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download questie bro

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save urself grief

grand mesa
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kk

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will snag

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maybe i'll level my monk legit from 50->60

haughty compass
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I tried a few Alts... got 2k in shuffle. Just waiting now...

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Has anyone talked about how crazy DH is atm?

edgy shale
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ya ive been bitchung about it a lot

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also welcome back!

grand mesa
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DH i don't mind nearly as much as afflock

haughty compass
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What cr are you puzzle

safe heart
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probably 2.3 or 2.5
i boosted him the other night

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sp hard carry

grand mesa
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me?

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like 19something

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i haven't played really

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tried 1 game the other day

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someone left

haughty compass
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What cr is your sp @safe heart

safe heart
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in 3s im like 1600 lol

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tanked

haughty compass
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oof

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arcane goshcomp

safe heart
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i have my 2nd sp ready to game tho

haughty compass
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arcane kinda slapped

grand mesa
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arcane does dam

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more than feral

haughty compass
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demo buffs were kinda crazy

grand mesa
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peak guardian gameplay.

stone breach
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@grand mesa I was about to post Foxyllama's stream LMAO

grand mesa
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yeah man

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been a long expansion lmao

edgy shale
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what % of thata is shuff?

grand mesa
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i'd rather not say

fair mirage
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for all the flaws sl had i sure did play it a lot

grand mesa
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yeah

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it got me back into PvP so i'll look at it kindly fondly ig

edgy shale
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i still think the #1 biggest issue shadowlands had was a super long 1st patch, and that was a lot cuz of covid

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wasnt it over 200 days, and the longest other first patch was under 100?

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ok mists, wod, bfa, legion had a ~100 day first patch

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shadowlands was 220 days

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not ok.

stone breach
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I enjoyed long Castle Nathria, but thats because the raid took me the whole time

edgy shale
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it took my raid the whole time too lol, but they coulda just done the nerfs that made it way easier more quickly

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and then it wouldn't have taken the whole time lol

grand mesa
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idk

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if i agree

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tbh

edgy shale
grand mesa
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like, if they pushed korthia and sanctum after 5-6 months of CN

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i think reaction would largely have been the same

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9.1.5 was decent tho

edgy shale
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well sod coming sooner woulda meant 9.1.5 coming sooner as well

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idk, but even if korthia+sod did get the same reaction, which yea they were both shit so i agree ig, but then we woulda at least gotten another raid tier w/ the anduin raid prob

grand mesa
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but 9.1.5 was a reaction to everyone quitting and being fed up and them uncapping aoe and pulling ripcord with swappable covenants

safe heart
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korthia fucking sux

grand mesa
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i just disagree that CN being alittle long was the #1 issue

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if CN being shorter meant that everyone would have gotten fed up and quit sooner in 9.1 than the long CN patch clearly wasn't the big issue

edgy shale
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but like it isn't just CN being too long. its pvpers being stuck with the same dog shit war/ret meta with barely any changes, its m+ers stuck with the saame dungeons and no ugprades for mad long

grand mesa
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yeah it's not good no doubt

edgy shale
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we lost like 70% of playerbase in 9.0

grand mesa
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i don't think it's excusable for tiers and tuning to run that long

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yeah game kinda sucked

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lol

edgy shale
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9,1,5 was def something they planned ot do eventually

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at least in terms of swappable covs

grand mesa
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i don't think they ever intended to swap covs

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tbh

edgy shale
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thats THE blizz thing though

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introduce stupid mechanic then give up on that mechanic after a yeaar or 2 and let ppl be happy

grand mesa
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all the weird quirks to it

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when we first were able to

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idk

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uncapping aoe too

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they backpedaled on that p quick

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that last 9.0 and 9.1

edgy shale
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yea, altho they didn't fully revert it

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its still capped beyond x targets or whatever right

grand mesa
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yeah but that isn't really new tbh

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i think alot of spells were soft capped anyway previously

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everything was just hard capped tho

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i hope they tune frequently

edgy shale
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well yea, but at 20 instead of 8 or 5 for some shit, but yea it was a good change anyway

stone breach
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the hard cap was the problem, you'd do literally no damage to one mob out of 6 in you were 5-capped, so one mob would die slower and awkwardly

grand mesa
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and the only decently soft capped class?

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fire mage

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lmao

stone breach
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flamestrike is 20

grand mesa
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everyone else tragically hitting only 5 while mages hit 20

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yeah

stone breach
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boomy was also 20 with starfall

edgy shale
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also rof

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not that destro was even good then lol

stone breach
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yeah, they werent good

edgy shale
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but anyway, i find it really weird blizz pvp subscribes to the like..."let people figure out counterplay" theory cuz i feel like the place I see that most is the FGC. nad I've followed the FGC long enough to know that doesn't really work well for player retention or making people wanna keep playing. Even if there is a counter to whatever is meta, i don't think its necessarily healthy for the game to revolve around countering 1-2 OP things that u could just tune down int he first place

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so yea i really hope they do a weekly or biweekly tuning

grand mesa
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i don't think the counter play thing works cause this isn't a moba

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there's no ban pick

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and u can't just idk, play a diff hero insta

edgy shale
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ive never even played a moba that doesn't get relatively consistent balance updates

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league is once every 2 weeks

grand mesa
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oh they poicked x? ill play y

edgy shale
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dota is least consistent, and even they're once every few months

grand mesa
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Ya

edgy shale
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pokemon unite gets updated a lot, hots did

grand mesa
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Dotas like big sweeping changes

edgy shale
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its just like..why does wow think they shoudl do this lol

grand mesa
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So it takes a while for people to even figure out meta

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Atleast when I played

edgy shale
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thats still p much the deal, but there's a lot more a, b, c patches

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like 7.32a icefrog tuned down a bunch of outliers

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err b lol

grand mesa
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I think blizz can go for what dota does

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Big sweeping changes on big patch but they have to tune outliers

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Idk if they’ll ever do the balance every 2 weeks

haughty compass
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They just need to make sure super egregious things are handled quickly

grand mesa
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They need to also lean into pvp modifiers more

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So they don’t have to care about m+ and raid ramifications

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They do it but like not enough

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And randomly shit like BM and outlaw gets a 4% aura buff that applies to both content and ur just sitting there like why

safe heart
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figure out counterplay?

edgy shale
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the 25% enhanc nerf prob coulda been more like a...10-15% pve nerf then a bigger pvp nerf lol

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so yea its jsut dumb

safe heart
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id love for blizzard to watch some of the shit thats running wild from my pov and have them explain what im supposed to do lmao

edgy shale
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but i just think they don't want too many modifiers flying around....but there's not really a choice unless u wanna make bigger changes between pvp vs. pve

grand mesa
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i get why they don't want the jarring differences

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like wow starsurge hits like a truck in pvp but goddamn it does shit in raid

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hypothetically

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why does my starsurge crit for 60k on a player but 10k in pve

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but idk i think it's needed

stone breach
# grand mesa Idk if they’ll ever do the balance every 2 weeks

There was a comment on some blue post that implied this approach. I'd love to see some iteration or at least experimentation on things like this: Should CC DR be what it is? Should the CC DR groups be what they are? Should dampening rate, starting point, etc. be what they are?

grand mesa
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pvp boomkin so awkward rn cause starsurge got slaughtered because of raid

stone breach
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I haven't played in a bit, but I was playing very damp

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pretty much a gimped aff lock

grand mesa
grand mesa
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tell me a better love story than fury warriors

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and punching into thorns

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every single time

edgy shale
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i tihnk ideally they could expand upon the pvp talents system and make more big chaanges in pvp and additional abilities or even cut abilities, but it just interferes with the ideaa of it being an RPG and needing to have ur character be the sme

grand mesa
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i think a big pvp prune and set modifiers would be cool

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as jarring as that would be

stone breach
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I would hate that

grand mesa
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would make it more accessible for new ppl

stone breach
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if pvp becomes a totally different game with different buttons that's a huge barrier to entry

edgy shale
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prune sap

stone breach
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pruning would be so so bad

haughty compass
edgy shale
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idk, there's a lot of abilities u almost never use in pve that ppl who have never pvp'd would never even have used

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they wouldn't miss it

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depending on the ability we're ta lking about

grand mesa
#

i think that's the big problem with class trees tbh

edgy shale
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like i think aas a druid u could easily hit mxa level never using clone

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or like...ursols

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or thypoon

grand mesa
#

all this niche utility that pve people are bad get in the way to the good shit

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we like

edgy shale
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mage with sheep

grand mesa
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and vice versa

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really?

edgy shale
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not that u should prune sheep n clone lol but just examples

stone breach
#

that's pretty recent though

grand mesa
#

i mean it was def there

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since BFA

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when i played prot war

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sometimes i'd get mad if a cast ate spell reflect

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cause the DR would go away

haughty compass
#

The more I’ve looked into the talent trees for different specs and classes the more I think they are really winging it big time. Feels rushed

fair mirage
#

ya only until it gets knocked off tho

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well previously now it's a different buff

fair mirage
haughty compass
fair mirage
#

my boomer brain is breaking trying to bind everything especially sham holy frek

grand mesa
#

io think they did a good job

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all things considered

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wish they had time to revisit early released classes

edgy shale
#

LIKE DRUID

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i dont think i've mentioned tht before

haughty compass
#

Community feedback from non idiots is important. Except we’re all dumb

fair mirage
#

i play too many things too poorly to give valuable feedback and the people who play 1 spec are usually like 45 and mad that surv is melee now

edgy shale
#

woah r u calling me out?

haughty compass
#

Yea for me when looking at different specs you really have to go through the talents

safe heart
#

why dont u go thru deez instead

haughty compass
#

Like, I’m using presets on everything but my main spec at the moment I’m too dumb

fair mirage
#

had to swap from dominos to bartender and it somehow wiped like a third of my bars im in shambles rebinding shit

edgy shale
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ppl who play 1 spec/ 1 hero in mobas / one trick whatever, always are gonna have biased feedback towards whatever their character is specifically good or bad against. there were times in ultra SFIV where i coulda bet my life some characters were top 2, but they just countered cammy lol

#

and i was being dumbb n bised

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biased

safe heart
#

u know whats funny

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on my sp

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i never complain when ferals are shitting on me lol

grand mesa
#

when i get styled on by a feral aff rdru when im playing bear aff i was never mad

haughty compass
safe heart
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if i lose to feral, i am trolling cuz feral needs buffs

grand mesa
#

spriest is ranged feral

edgy shale
#

playing more shit just better helps u understand how the game works, yea. Play whaat u think counters u / is super op and u see how its not actually that op in the first place and has counters or u own everyone anaad see u were right lol

safe heart
#

i have learned alot of stuff by just memeing on another class

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this is good info

grand mesa
#

thats what im excited for with DF

safe heart
#

shit i tried fury war for like 20 levels and learned that soothing them is actually good

grand mesa
#

if it's really, ding max level, send urself honor tokens and get a full set

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import a string

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setup some binds

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then game

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i'll play alot of diff shit

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some of my class knowledge on classes based on the last time i played it is fucking ancient

haughty compass
#

Yea some of the best content this game has to offer is learning a different spec or class

grand mesa
#

spec specific rating will be good too for memeing around

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on shit u have no clue what ur doing

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and just pressing shit that lights up

fair mirage
#

but fuck off if they have to do 10 wings of torghast and grind conduits to do so

haughty compass
#

Frost mage was the best spec for that. Cast frost bolt and hit the buttons that light up

grand mesa
#

i think they need to/maybe possibly have realized that

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duck

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they're so obsessed with keeping people playing on their mains

grand mesa
#

if they make grind easy, alot of players tend to fill time with playing other classes

safe heart
#

i feel bad not playing feral

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feel guilty

grand mesa
#

ESPECIALLY PVPers

edgy shale
#

WARDENENED

fair mirage
#

shambles

haughty compass
fair mirage
#

which word did i even

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oh tism

edgy shale
#

ROOM AND SHAMbles (im cringe)

grand mesa
#

i finallyt got slime

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this weekend

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lmaooooo

haughty compass
#

Lollllll

safe heart
#

can u help me get slimecat puzzle

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plz i have 64 kids

fair mirage
#

gz on goo cat

grand mesa
#

normal jailer

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does

#

nothing

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he just stands there

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a 10 min target dummy

fair mirage
#

i was gonna pass cos its not cute but it's honestly kind of neat

haughty compass
#

I did slime cat right away, but I can’t even get past dk character creation on wrath

fair mirage
#

line mc other than that idk what he did

safe heart
edgy shale
#

thats so crazy ur not gonna have ur very useful portals from this patch

#

u will have NO wya to get to castle nathria whta a shame...

grand mesa
#

i was interested in dungeon portals possible cause some of them go to random ass places

haughty compass
grand mesa
#

but they placed 3 portals in orb anyway

safe heart
#

u have to have it

grand mesa
#

oribos

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so

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pykan tbh

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i was thinking

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it is such a fomo mount

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it's gonna be one of those mounts

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that look increasibly better

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when no one really has it

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lmao

haughty compass
#

That’s my MO

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The less popular the better

grand mesa
#

like i didn't think nothing much about spectral T when it was first out

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like oh that's nice

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now it's beautiful

#

glorious

haughty compass
#

Yes

grand mesa
#

it radiates FOMO

#

figured slime cat might go same way so may as well force myself to pug 1 boss

haughty compass
#

Yea slime cat is awesome

fair mirage
#

it feels like a quality mount

grand mesa
#

i bet they retroactively make it fly later, they do that with some mounts

haughty compass
#

And I got to see the raids I never did

fair mirage
#

i really like the mage tower book

haughty compass
#

Win win

edgy shale
#

u can get it in LFR right?

grand mesa
#

nope

fair mirage
#

no normal+

grand mesa
#

normal+

edgy shale
grand mesa
#

when they announced that

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casual wow twitter

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blew up

fair mirage
#

bro the forums were on fire

edgy shale
#

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH IM MAD

grand mesa
#

noprmal was easy enough man

fair mirage
#

idk the mechanics i just threw healing rain down on the group

grand mesa
#

my 1 shot normal pull

#

when we pulled jailed

haughty compass
#

I am casual af with 76 kids and 4minutes to play a week... I got it first 3 weeks

fair mirage
#

like 300 ilev from pvp/keys so

stone breach
#

normal is so easy, but I understand the difficulty of getting into a group if you have no ilvl nor desire to get it

grand mesa
#

5 people immediately fell into a hole

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and we killed

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lmao

edgy shale
#

sounds like the avg mythic kill on jailer

grand mesa
#

instead of making shit so accessible and opening it up to LFR

#

work on LFG system some

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LFG is bane of M+ pug raiding and was bane of pvpers

haughty compass
#

Just make an LFG tool for normal

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Like, Q up

stone breach
#

what would make LFG system better?

haughty compass
#

And get put in a group

grand mesa
#

i honestly have no clue i'm just a player

#

i can identify shit that sucks

edgy shale
#

they did a lot that made it better in some recent patch

grand mesa
#

no clue how to elegantly fix

edgy shale
#

like u can see their cr, etc

safe heart
#

there should be a seperate tab for like team recruiting

grand mesa
#

like for one, pvpers, u can't search a group while in a group waiting

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i remember the meme pics of a 1600 rogue looking for a mage for 2s by himself, and right under him was a 1600 mage looking for a rogue by himself

haughty compass
#

I can’t man... I just can’t

grand mesa
#

and they'll never see each other

safe heart
#

you can do that now

stone breach
#

thats changed

grand mesa
#

oh theyf ixed?

#

good

stone breach
#

yeah, they made a bunch of that type of fix recently

safe heart
#

if they had a team recruiting tab, i think itd help

grand mesa
#

u think they could ever matchmake M+?

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like below a certain key level

safe heart
#

give you a list of like potential ppl

edgy shale
#

that was in the patch sometime in thre middle of shadowlands that i mentioned

safe heart
#

not like old teams where ur locked in but you know

haughty compass
#

I prefer seeing people on my bnet looking for group and rejecting my request to join

stray sigil
#

pykan is back

grand mesa
#

i think matchmaking easy keys for weeklies if ur above a certain ilvl is good

stray sigil
haughty compass
#

Hi Fuji, didn’t think you’d guys even would notice

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I feel liked a little

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Tolerated*

stone breach
#

I don't think matchmade m+ is likely to ever happen, I think incentives to run lower keys than youre capable of are good to help fill lower keyed groups and do that part well enough

grand mesa
#

then they need to improve valor system

edgy shale
#

REMOVE IT

grand mesa
#

@stray sigil

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do u approve

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not very spaceship

#

like that usually

safe heart
#

what is penjamin

grand mesa
#

i was curious too but afraid to google

#

lmao

safe heart
grand mesa
#

really surprised u play EQ

safe heart
#

dude

#

i played from 2013 to till like 2019 maybe?

#

i started playing wow when they dropped the classic wow server

#

i also played as a kid in like 2001

tepid spoke
#

David sucks as wing man

safe heart
#

@grand mesa do you know what p99 is

#

project 1999

grand mesa
#

yes

safe heart
#

i am like

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a mustache twirling villian on that server

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or was

#

alot of ppl hate me

tepid spoke
#

Throw everything together in a pot

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= dinner

safe heart
#

i havnet played legitamately on p99 in a long time now tho

grand mesa
#

looks good

safe heart
#

i got booted out of the big raiding guild 3x

grand mesa
#

why what did u do

safe heart
#

i played a really geared enchanter

grand mesa
#

are u secretly incredibly toxic

safe heart
#

not even

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i would just solo alot of shit

#

so i would like plat god x

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so like my guildies would show up to a big plat camp

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and ask to join

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and id say no im soloing it

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and theyd go "omg ur so hot and toxic eberron'

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paraphrasing

#

but i also had a huge rep for being afk at raids because i fucking hate raiding

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so alot of officers and guild leaders hated me because id abuse their dkp systems to get loot without really helping much

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kindof a silent protest

#

but most of those ppl never knew me and i really wasnt toxic in a one on one setting, i helped alot of ppl and gave alot of stuff away for free

edgy shale
haughty compass
#

“Not even toxic”

Proceeds to type toxic paragraphs

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Lmao

safe heart
#

i am non toxic gluten free grass fed

stray sigil
#

true

grand mesa
#

lmao meta's league grind going well i see

safe heart
#

but anyways the short version is, i had alot more fun soloing big ticket plat camps than i did raiding but i wanted raid gear so i made it painful for everyone in the process

grand mesa
haughty compass
#

Supatease just uploading a class on beta, buying gear and Qing solo shuffle

#

That sounds awesome

#

Rudar 2.4 in shuffle

grand mesa
#

rudar is kinda nutty

haughty compass
#

He’s insane

safe heart
#

ffs

grand mesa
#

boomkin

haughty compass
#

Moonkin shuffle

grand mesa
#

u made rudar

edgy shale
#

WTF R U saying fuji

stray sigil
#

gg

edgy shale
#

stacaking them shit?

haughty compass
#

Just a ton of stuff that makes it good in the tree too

#

Almost Nothing that helps surge lol

grand mesa
#

Thanks boomkins for getting starsurge nerfed for resto too 😡

tepid spoke
#

source?

#

trust me bro

grand mesa
#

I can’t tell how rudar is dealing damage lol

#

how much of this is kyrian

edgy shale
#

STARFALL

haughty compass
#

Yea that’s basically the build I was messing with too

#

I made rudar confirmed

tepid spoke
#

ew

#

wouldnt you pick embrace

#

insteed of intensity

grand mesa
#

god i haven't kept up with balance all of beta

#

and right now

#

u two are speaking a diff language

haughty compass
#

Yea I have waning

grand mesa
#

i need to look @ this balance tree

tepid spoke
#

4p + embrace

#

should be juicy wraths

#

or insta starfires

grand mesa
#

wait

#

why is this shitty talent

haughty compass
#

Unironically I like the balance tree

grand mesa
#

all the way @ the bottom

tepid spoke
#

cause blizz is troll

grand mesa
#

i've only used it once and it was on sire p1

random patrol
#

@grand mesa cause blizz

tepid spoke
#

they dont wanan let go of woe

#

no one

#

ever

#

uses woe

#

in like 3 expansions

haughty compass
#

I just appreciate the change I guess

tepid spoke
#

you play WT and stellar flare for surte

#

i dont think its an optional point

haughty compass
#

It’s funny you mention that, I’m running waning and SF

random patrol
#

blizz has a hard on for stellar flare and woe

tepid spoke
#

why would you miss on perma 8% damage

edgy shale
#

doesn't starfall do the most shit dmgur in all of this life?

#

not starfall

#

i mean starfire

safe heart
#

i wanted to play pathfinder kingmaker tonight

#

got stuck playing eq

edgy shale
tepid spoke
#

i can finally play dot moonkin

#

in pvp

#

aff lock partner

#

gg

#

perma roll starfall stellar flare spam

haughty compass
#

Spec Necro atm too

tepid spoke
#

with 2 in kindling

grand mesa
#

are u gonna be hard casting stellar flare??

#

or just during syzygy

tepid spoke
#

flare is your filler

#

in aoe

#

no

edgy shale
#

wtf is flare

#

bommy make no sense

grand mesa
#

stellar flare is the dot we never liked to use

tepid spoke
#

its a casted dot

grand mesa
#

but it was better in ST

tepid spoke
#

thats all

random patrol
#

a dot that has a cast time for some reason

edgy shale
#

stelle flare never t ake that HS IAT

haughty compass
#

It being an astral cast is the biggest troll

tepid spoke
#

does astral dam so has a chance to proc tier and also procs shooting stars now

#

so its way better

#

than what it used to be

edgy shale
#

bommy fgun to do shroom anad cast full moon but get astral locked

#

thats why u play bommy.

tepid spoke
#

with tier

grand mesa
#

oh if it's astral that's good

tepid spoke
#

all your spells are astral now

#

so enjoy getting locked

#

on every spell

grand mesa
#

oh gross

tepid spoke
#

it does

grand mesa
#

lulz

tepid spoke
#

"astral locked"

edgy shale
#

wdym?

random patrol
#

bein astral at the very least means it gets your embrace to proc

haughty compass
#

Lmao RIP

edgy shale
#

castral=ur locked in nature n arcane right?

grand mesa
#

ya

edgy shale
#

tf is matty saying? im dont get it

haughty compass
#

Here I was thinking “maybe I’ll level moonkin sooner than I thought”

tepid spoke
#

tier makes your wrath and starfire astral

#

instead of nature/arcane

edgy shale
tepid spoke
#

so if you cast a wrath

#

and they lock u

#

they shut u down

#

completley

#

cant cast shit

edgy shale
#

thats fucked lmao

grand mesa
#

what does ur tier do?

haughty compass
#

That can’t be true is it

tepid spoke
#

it is

#

when you cast a spender

#

i mean its not tier

grand mesa
#

oh its the giga

tepid spoke
#

its umbral embrace

haughty compass
#

Beta for Azeroth is still happening

tepid spoke
#

im dum

grand mesa
#

filler spells

haughty compass
#

Game has been in beta since legion

tepid spoke
#

when you deal astral damage your wrath/starfire has a chance to become astral and deal

#

more dama

#

thats umbral embrace

#

if you get locked in astral wrath

#

gg

#

but that talent is good cuz

#
  1. going 2/2 on it unlocks solar beam
#
  1. 2/2 embrace is 50%
#

so your next wrath deals 50% dam

#

and is astral

#

so double dips on mastery/ca

grand mesa
#

i mean ig you'll still get free instacast starfires

tepid spoke
#

ye

edgy shale
#

they shoulda taken that away

grand mesa
#

i don't mind insta cast starfire

#

i mind the super fast clones

#

but i think they nerfed that

edgy shale
#

i mean it does nothing but screw bommy

grand mesa
#

yeah

#

30% now

tepid spoke
#

yea fast clone was so hard to kick on 200

grand mesa
#

Boomkin honestly looks interesting

#

But worried there’s too many spinning plates and random shit to track

#

Lmao

tepid spoke
#

only interesting part is being a rot class now

#

for me

#

at least

#

surge does pissall

#

yea ive always wanted to

#

spam starfall on cds

#

and dots

stray sigil
tepid spoke
#

fun as fuck

grand mesa
#

Lmao

#

It’s ok fuji u can rot too

#

Go full snupy

stray sigil
#

thats not rot

tepid spoke
#

i quit in legion

#

i think i did EN tier thats it

#

and some nighthold

#

then quit

#

i stayed for the whole shit part

#

with rng legos

grand mesa
#

casting stellar flare in pvp just sounds annoying lmao

tepid spoke
#

and 1500 maw of souls runs

grand mesa
#

i hate everything about that

tepid spoke
#

idk man

#

its so fuckin fast

#

the cast

#

doesnt feel bad

#

feels like a wrath

#

w.e

edgy shale
#

starfall should have a 3 se cond cast

tepid spoke
grand mesa
#

atleast they reverted the change

#

when it was a GTAOE

edgy shale
#

it would make the spec more fun

#

cuz 3 second casts = rewarding gameplay

grand mesa
#

look

#

just precog

edgy shale
#

Get owned

grand mesa
#

juke with clone

#

cast starfall

edgy shale
#

i get 4 second arcanosphere cast off alal the time in 1400 elos

tepid spoke
#

get a fm cast

#

astral locked

haughty compass
#

Does circle leggo and talent stack atm?

tepid spoke
#

no

grand mesa
#

no

#

not many things do tbh

#

when it's overlap

tepid spoke
#

talent overwrites legendary

grand mesa
#

if at all tbh

haughty compass
#

I didn’t think so

#

Well you can get 30second cd convokes lol

tepid spoke
#

so if you pick both 600 ap pulsar and 300 ap lego you keep the 600 ap

#

yea unity is diff

#

same

haughty compass
#

Yea it’s a dead talent now

#

Imo

tepid spoke
#

they need to separate pulsar and syzygy honestly

#

yea

#

would be so fun honestly

random patrol
#

something like that?

haughty compass
#

That’s basically my setup atm, but I went to foe

random patrol
#

yeah it's so meh at 70

#

60*

haughty compass
#

A few specs are like that

stray sigil
haughty compass
#

Demo with felguard + tyrant talents is gonna be a menace

unkempt aurora
#

Circle feels mandatory given our dots provide damage and AP so faster ticks is better ...but feels bad having to refresh so often. Sunfire is 13.5 sec duration only

edgy shale
#

fuji be like

haughty compass
#

Yea I’m just using the leggo atm in place of the talent so I can have foe

stray sigil
#

to do my missions

#

and i logg of

edgy shale
#

ok, it was literally 5 seconds between those 2 though

haughty compass
#

What cr in solo Fuji?

stray sigil
#

its cuz when i launch the game

#

it closes bnet

unkempt aurora
#

Wish circle just made dots tick faster but not shorten duration

edgy shale
#

ur dumb fuji

stray sigil
#

so it puts me offline but im online now

edgy shale
#

why would u do that

stray sigil
#

didnt q anymore

#

cba

haughty compass
#

Your favorite mechagnome is closing in

edgy shale
#

solo shuff is completely full of prepatch abusers

tepid spoke
#

what lego you play

stray sigil
#

im not gonna force myself into playing 3 covenants

haughty compass
#

I was 2167, but i afk’d a triple DH double guardian room

stray sigil
#

just for prepatch

#

im good

tepid spoke
#

play circle lego and get foe

haughty compass
#

And lost like 140 pts lol

stray sigil
#

thats not too bad ig

#

depends on how much u win

haughty compass
#

Idk I just left that nonsense

#

Zero fun as a caster

#

2 DH and bear on you

#

Abusing

tepid spoke
#

moonkin tree feels so bad cause beam is so badly positiioned

#

it shouldnt even be a talent

#

but eh

grand mesa
#

true in the next rework put solar beam in class tree 😈

tepid spoke
#

nah just give it base to boomy

edgy shale
#

tf? no way

tepid spoke
#

and keep the shit talent that improves beam there if u want

#

why not lmao

edgy shale
#

u dont get that if i have to waste points on my kick

#

WHICH U HAVE ACESS TO FOR SOME REASON

grand mesa
#

lmao

tepid spoke
#

cause they wanted healers to have kicks

#

gg