pvp

[grand mesa]

Yeah

They nerfed it

[potent meadow]

wonder if I can warstomp clone again

it was really close at 15%

i tried going NF but the aoe stomp is so nice in m+, still debating

[haughty compass]

Oh wow so yea, nov. 15th evoker

[grand mesa]

I enjoy meld way too much to go back Tauren

Also I’m pretty night elf princess

[haughty compass]

It’s nice to express ourselves

Ok, wow break til prepatch

Love y’all

[stray sigil]

1 week break uh pylon

[grand mesa]

I’ll see you in beta when u get it this week Yolanda

[haughty compass]

Lol yea

[grand mesa]

But evoker isn’t in yet

[haughty compass]

Gotta get the prepatch toy

[tropic schooner]

never int

but also depends what you talk about

its mostly strength but possibly SP one hander

depends if you play prot or preg

[lime light]

@tropic schooner we can help with dungons after my wg

[tropic schooner]

I already joined a WG too!

[lime light]

could also do 10x 3s

[tropic schooner]

think the 3s would be better to just get some amount of points

[lime light]

ye

also need daily eots and random bg

[tropic schooner]

I tried to get that pre work

I went

0-4

[lime light]

gonna be long wg

10 min

[grand mesa]

@tiny oar

it works

https://gyazo.com/88c3d76d1ba17dc25409fb50cf09ee4b

[tropic schooner]

I lost in 5 mins

[edgy shale]

EP IS KURWA

[stray sigil]

@haughty compass Honor and Conquest can be obtained and used to upgrade gear based on your rating.

during post season

so i assume conq boxes will work ?

[grand mesa]

Did they say that explicitly for post season

[stray sigil]

its on wowhead blue post

its under post season

[grand mesa]

I guess it makes sense tbh

Let pvpers gear for new expac. Not like m raiding is going away or keys

For gearing up

[stray sigil]

ye just thought of pylon

cuz he said conq boxes give gold in post season a while back

[grand mesa]

Pylon has like a fucking week

[stray sigil]

maybe this means it gives gear

[grand mesa]

To level and gear that evoker

Before launch

[stray sigil]

what lvl do they start

i assume kinda high

they have to skip sl dont they

so prob wont take too long

[haughty compass]

Ok so you can still push rating and buy pvp gear

So y’all carrying my evoker to 2.1 nice

[stray sigil]

[haughty compass]

Sounds good

See ya in oribos

[grand mesa]

Maybe reactive resin for pylon will be good for you as feral

Fuji

[viscid remnant]

XD

feji coped

[stray sigil]

maybe its bugged

like 90% ofp the future game

[grand mesa]

I can’t wait until I NS regrowth into an immune when he self clones himself at 10% HP as his defensive

What a shitty ducking button

[haughty compass]

It’s a preemptive cd lol

Need 500 iq

Which I definitely d t have

[grand mesa]

Can u do it in stun?

[haughty compass]

If only I knew

[grand mesa]

Ohaiyo gozaimasu

Bro it’s gonna be so fucking fried

With cov abilities conduits legos still in

[tepid spoke]

Prepatch solo shuffle is scuffed beta solo shufflr

Prepare for resto druids oneshoting your as with hysteria + moonkin convoke

[stray sigil]

y do u think cov abilities will work though

[tepid spoke]

Their starsurge modifier is like 50% stronger than balancea

[stray sigil]

cov abilities in df only work in sl zones

can easily just code arena/bg as non sl

im not convinced they will work

considering smoe of them are on trees

[tepid spoke]

Its easy test

[stray sigil]

u would have double convokes

double swarms

[tepid spoke]

Jump into ptr

Ptr is prepatch

You can use covenants and talents in ptr

[stray sigil]

they are doing 3 patch for pre patch on liv though

i really doubt cov abilities will work outside of pve and sl zones

would be kinda weird having 2 convokes

or 2 spear of bastions

2 abom limbs

2 the hunts

2 echointg

[grand mesa]

U know what’s cool

Fuji

U can convoke almost every maim stun

P sure convoke is 30s on ptr

[stray sigil]

cuz unity and the talent ?

[grand mesa]

Ya

I probably won’t touch pvp at all in prepatch

[stray sigil]

ya this is why i dont think they will work

[grand mesa]

Just UI shit pve shit for guild revving back up

If it’s like that

Beta is still there to test shit anyway

[stray sigil]

im positive they wont allow it

but could be something

theyt have to hotfix

in the week of prepatch release

but wont stay lkike that

[stone breach]

Ranked solo shuffle tho?

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-lord-of-the-rings-smoke-gif-8289628

[grand mesa]

I’ve done so much on beta and assuming beta stays up with builds I’ll continue shuffling There

[tepid spoke]

I was fuckin around with flourish last night

Is good vs some comps

Also started to use 4p wg more

I was forgetting about it

Makes your wgs crank

[grand mesa]

Something j gotta track better

Is invigorating sotf hots

Big juice

Are u actually dropping efflo?

[tepid spoke]

I think two is overkill

Yeah on myself or on a caster

[grand mesa]

I think healing wiz cleave

With efflo

Could be legit

And 4pc

Matty did u see my new Wa I made

[tepid spoke]

Insta wg + sotf + 4p

Is so much healing

Nop

[grand mesa]

https://gyazo.com/88c3d76d1ba17dc25409fb50cf09ee4b

Tracking sotf rejuvs now

Works with VI. The old ass bfa WA I’ve been using didn’t count VI

[tepid spoke]

Its the shiny rejuv and wg?

Thats nice

Send pls

[grand mesa]

Ya when I get home

It’s a really hacky way of doing it since rejuv and sotf rejuv are same spellid

[tepid spoke]

I dont even have addons on beta lmao

Got weakauras and thats it

[grand mesa]

I miss big debuffs man

It’s really hard without 6 hots

[tepid spoke]

Yeah me too actually

[grand mesa]

I have WAs that mimic Bigdebuffs for everything but the 6 hots

The big CC on raidframes dispellable big on raid frames and the shit to the right of nameplates

[stray sigil]

alright they changed the wording on 4p

its doomed

[safe heart]

Did they take my suggestion

[stray sigil]

@edgy shale nerf ferals agane

na they went from Bleed to rake rip thrash

soe doesnt work on li and ff

might not even go for 4p not sure

4s buff for rip/rake is waht

2 ticks at most

[tiny oar]

[stray sigil]

ig i cant have nice things

[edgy shale]

ya

its nerfed

[stray sigil]

dog shit 4p in pvp then

[edgy shale]

why

its still like 16% increased rip dam

[stray sigil]

isnt it 10%

the 4p

its 2% per cp

[edgy shale]

yes

but 2p is also free 6%

[stray sigil]

i said 4p is dog

not 2p

[edgy shale]

oh u said specifically 4p i thought u meant overall tier

watever

its not bad tier though

[safe heart]

Is feral buffed now

[edgy shale]

feral is nerfed

[stray sigil]

na thats a nerf

[safe heart]

Feral nerfed to A tier

[stray sigil]

ye na the 2p is good for sure

but the 4p is not all that

will have to see if its worth using it over raw stats

[edgy shale]

????????

[stray sigil]

i predict stats might be better in pvp cuz of the lower uptime

[edgy shale]

it still has the % chance for shred to crit

[stray sigil]

ok fuk u

u are memeing me again

[edgy shale]

how is that memeing

more chance to crit = more cp = more finishers

[stray sigil]

10% chance to crit on fukin shred

[safe heart]

IPad
U are making fenji angy

[stray sigil]

we dont stack crit in pvp u buffoon

[edgy shale]

that makes it even more valuable???

cuz its free crit

[stray sigil]

eat my ass

[safe heart]

It's not free crit

You pay for it in your taxes

[edgy shale]

when i play feral cp gen is so ass

anything to help seems good

feral pvp

[stray sigil]

bruh

we gonna ahve

soul moc cats eye

tireless

we dotn need help with cp gen

[edgy shale]

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[stray sigil]

suck me

10% crit on shred

is piss

thats the worst part of the 4p for pvp

and the other part is meaningless now

[grand mesa]

this is a buff

think about it

now u don't need ot raid for tier in the first 6 weeks and take weird secondaries to wear tier

42% vers ez

[edgy shale]

its 10% on all buidlers

[safe heart]

Ff is a builder
True or true

[grand mesa]

fastest CP per GCD

[stray sigil]

the only one that would matter is the rake crit %

but even then

im not sure how stats are currently on beta

but on live we have like 15% crit

so 25% to crit in a 4s window

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

u got me tilted thinking bout

it

fuk u ipod

fuck tis so abd

[grand mesa]

lulz

[tiny oar]

Wait theres no thing like creation catalyst?

[grand mesa]

there is

it turns on in 6 weeks

[tiny oar]

O ok

[safe heart]

There's a 3d printer in the conference room

[grand mesa]

2.5 - 25k

[stray sigil]

can u get tier in vault pre 6th week

@grand mesa

[grand mesa]

who knows they never said

[stray sigil]

[edgy shale]

fenji doesn't understand that resource gen is important..........................................

[stray sigil]

ipod

i will do unspeakable things

if u continue on this path

[edgy shale]

good

[grand mesa]

2.5 ending at 19.5

[stray sigil]

what are u even saying puzzle

[grand mesa]

2.3 ending @ 17k

[stray sigil]

??????????????

[grand mesa]

@tepid spoke they fixed DTL

[stray sigil]

@grand mesa

is balance aff thing on beta

actually 1 yard inc

LOL

[edgy shale]

wat is fenji saying

[safe heart]

Did you guys see snupy's video about ranged feral lol

[stray sigil]

check new blue post

[edgy shale]

trhis has been bugged from the start to give 1 extra yard

[stray sigil]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/class-and-talent-tuning-in-dragonflight-beta-build-46144-evoker-defensive-buffs-329433?webhook

[safe heart]

He was playing balance aff with like lycaras or whatever the fuck

[grand mesa]

@twin spire

[safe heart]

So he could shred from like 20ft

[grand mesa]

2.5 ending at 19.5

2.3 ending @ 17k

25k regrowth both with and without DTL

that sounds fixed

[edgy shale]

STOP TYPING NONSENSE

[stray sigil]

how though

[grand mesa]

the small difference between lifebloom values is within the 10% nerf for taking DTL

[stray sigil]

its 3 yards

[grand mesa]

i think

[stray sigil]

he would have to play uh

[grand mesa]

im double checking one of the bugs i was tracking

[stray sigil]

hotw?

[grand mesa]

for resto

[safe heart]

I'm estimating

[twin spire]

Sounds good

[safe heart]

It wasn't impressive but was funny

[stray sigil]

hes running low on content

needs to do stupid shit

tru or tru

[safe heart]

I watched some of his skill capped commentaries

Who is ilovelucy

[stray sigil]

lucy is good

eu boi

[safe heart]

He had some commentaries too

[stray sigil]

i would def watch lucy over snupy lol

[safe heart]

They just have a folder of commentaries
Not sorted any kind of way

Syfox snupy and Lucy all in there

[stray sigil]

da fox

[safe heart]

I like fox alot

He's cool

Wish he streamed more

/ at all

[stray sigil]

hes always qqin bout his internet so prob wont happen much lul

streaming is also kinda ded

not super profitable if ur that small

[grand mesa]

its ok fuji

if druid 4pc stays broke

i'm only 2pc

[stray sigil]

for rdu?

[grand mesa]

yeah

but my triple mastery lifebloom talent is fixed now for 2 lifeblooms 🙂

now i can be a real healing menace

[edgy shale]

WHAT IS HE SAYING

[safe heart]

Well I need someone to teach me how to be r1 feral and or mw

Whatever is easier

[grand mesa]

OK IPOD

I HAVE A TALENT

THAT WHEN I PUT LIFEBLOOM ON SOMEONE, IT COUNTS AS IF I HAVE 3 HOTS ON THEM FOR MASTERY

[edgy shale]

GO TELL THEM IN RESTO CHANNEL

[grand mesa]

I ALSO HAVE A TALENT THAT LETS ME PUT LIFEBLOOMS ON 2(TWO) PEOPLE

[stray sigil]

based

[edgy shale]

this is for feral and bommy pvp

[stray sigil]

and true

[grand mesa]

THEY DID NOT WORK TOGETHER

[stray sigil]

no healer piglets

[edgy shale]

no healer piglets

[grand mesa]

alteast i have tier to wear in arena fuji u shit

[stray sigil]

thats a low blow

[grand mesa]

LMAO

IM SORRY

that was a line

and i crossed it

[stray sigil]

not my fault blissard treats ferals like their re t arded child

[edgy shale]

thats how i treat u fenji

[grand mesa]

ipod did u ever watch seinfeld

[stray sigil]

thats hopw u been treated ur whole life pod

[edgy shale]

we already had a ewhole ass xonvo about that

yes i like reinedld

[stray sigil]

its the age

[grand mesa]

ur kramer

[stray sigil]

hes getting dementia

[grand mesa]

u walk into

this chat

[edgy shale]

im george

[grand mesa]

say dumb and crazy shit

then u leave

[stray sigil]

that is what he does

wtf

[safe heart]

It's a lifestyle not many can handle

[stray sigil]

pod is special like that

[grand mesa]

lulz

it is 1 yard

for feral

[edgy shale]

no

its 1.5

twice which makes 3

[grand mesa]

oh it's 3 with 2 talents

thats what it's always been

[edgy shale]

yea

[grand mesa]

for bear and im assuming cat

[stray sigil]

stfuy ipod

ur wrong

[tepid spoke]

They fixed dtl in all its interactions

?

And*

[grand mesa]

Tier doesn’t work

[tepid spoke]

Focused growth?

[grand mesa]

Didn’t check but once kid falls asleep imma go down and test

All I cared about was harmonious and 4pc for the most part

[tepid spoke]

Well why not have all

Just keep spam reporting

I reported them everyday

LOL

“This talent still doesnt work with undegrowth”

[grand mesa]

I’ve been doing it once a build

To uhh not be annoying

“Instanced PvP activities should now be rewarding strongboxes that contain a variety of consumables, profession reagents, and most importantly PvP recipes. You also get more Primal Chaos and a chance at Infusions at high ratings.”

Ok that’s p dope

[tiny oar]

Hmmm

Very nice

[haughty compass]

Those are certainly words

[grand mesa]

Those are the mats

To craft

The good gear

[haughty compass]

Oh neat

[grand mesa]

Ie you don’t need to raid to craft the good pvp gear

[haughty compass]

I was thinking I might be pure gathering on evoker for the monies

[grand mesa]

Thyme must hate ptr/beta build days lmao

👀

[haughty compass]

Why?

[grand mesa]

Dooming

And certain ferals crossing state lines to boomkin land to troll

😂

[edgy shale]

wtf is primal chaos

[grand mesa]

LOL glyph

U crack me up bro

I’m surprised balance wasn’t on slow mode based off blue post

[edgy shale]

it was kind of funny feral was making fun of bommy for posting gym progress pics before

[grand mesa]

Maybe it’s not that bad?

[edgy shale]

and i was like ?????????????????????????

[haughty compass]

Moonkin will be fine

[edgy shale]

lol glyph is so unhinged

"bommy is fine, but also u should reroll enhanc"

[grand mesa]

He’s trying to be PMA

But really

He wants to watch the world burn

[edgy shale]

the mastery nerf does seem like a lot

but im here for it cuz fuck bommies

[grand mesa]

I’m enjoying watching him go back and forth on both ends of the spectrum

Pvp is saved

Maybe u bitches won’t be broke no mo

[crystal forge]

guys i finished all my torgy achieves

im free

[tropic schooner]

good joke

people are always broke

[haughty compass]

Evoker defensive buffs 😏

Your boy is all in

[edgy shale]

I just hope I have the motivation to make cash at the start of DF like i did in shadowlands

early on u can make so much fucking money by doing literally anything

[tropic schooner]

@lime light just did literal last second OS 25

we were done with loot 15s before servers went down

[haughty compass]

Yea dude. I legit think I’m doing double gathering and just stockpile

[grand mesa]

still holding

[edgy shale]

sell shit aas quickly as u can imo, cuz prices are just insanely inflated at first

[tropic schooner]

im down to about 10m on retail

[haughty compass]

Yea meant stockpile gold

[edgy shale]

oh yea

[tropic schooner]

not playing but using gold to play classic for the last 6 months on 2 accounts

[edgy shale]

definitely

stockpile gold for the whole ass xpac

[grand mesa]

i gotta sell more tokens

[edgy shale]

bruu im gonna be so flush with cash

can't wait

i still need an AH mount

its the most fucked up thing in all of life i don't have it

[grand mesa]

i regret

not getting it

i wasn't playing

[edgy shale]

how much swiping is 10 mill

cuz u can stil get it on BMAH

but its double the price

i think i coulda gotten the AH mount

i just came back in 8.3, but i farmed mad gold

i think i got to like 3 mill befoer i gave up and just spent it on random shit

[grand mesa]

i gave away like 3m when i quit

[edgy shale]

like the frog mount in nazmir

[grand mesa]

didn't think i'd be back

@tepid spoke

https://wago.io/HO5sx7XX2

[tiny oar]

What's going on here

[grand mesa]

wdym

the germ on top left of the picture is SOTF empowered

[tepid spoke]

ty puzzle ❤️

[grand mesa]

so u know who has the giga hots and u don't accidentally overwrite it

i think it'll be harder to do that tho with germ tbh

holdup need to update it i forgot it rolled back my WA

[tiny oar]

Oh shit okay I thought that was a bloom lol

That's rly nice

[grand mesa]

@tepid spoke change those all to smart group

[tepid spoke]

kk

[grand mesa]

@tepid spoke

https://gyazo.com/0665530ed09d6cc8a70bc2514221fec7

focused growht does not work with dtl

[tiny oar]

Nice game blizz

[grand mesa]

its ok they fixed the mastery one

now they just need to fix NS CDR

[tiny oar]

Fucking dtl anyways maybe

[grand mesa]

then FG

then we're uhhh pogging

as the young people say

[tiny oar]

I want full juiced ST blooms

[tiny oar]

[grand mesa]

[tepid spoke]

another dissapointment

[tepid spoke]

as csh would say

hes like 11

[grand mesa]

i've read some of his messages when i lurk boomkin

[tiny oar]

Csh so weird lol

I see them in some other channels

[tepid spoke]

LOL

[tiny oar]

Odd takes

[tepid spoke]

he a homie

[tiny oar]

Is he cool

[tepid spoke]

ya

[tiny oar]

I dont hang out in balance a lot

[tepid spoke]

just sutpid

[tiny oar]

Sounds like me then

[grand mesa]

Balance was ironically where I was the most

But now I just avoid it lol

[tepid spoke]

lmao

[grand mesa]

I remember the days when Mattiu was blasting sludgefist and trying out full moon for the pillar

[tiny oar]

I have like 50 msgs totally in balance out of my 32k lol@grand mesa

[grand mesa]

Giving us the play by play

[tepid spoke]

i remember that

[grand mesa]

P sure I invade feral next

Hahaha I remember you were like

This might be the play

10 minutes later

Nope

[tepid spoke]

lmao

[grand mesa]

This is not the play

[tepid spoke]

it was so bad

[edgy shale]

feral has too many furries

[tiny oar]

Yea weirdo furries haha not me tho

[grand mesa]

Yeah haha ur totally the most normal haha

Haha

[tepid spoke]

whats wrong with furries

[edgy shale]

[tiny oar]

Idk nothing ig everyone says I am one

[tepid spoke]

confirm

[tiny oar]

Omg

Its me

FUCK

[tepid spoke]

same

am a furry

[tiny oar]

Yes I am ty so much for agreeing puzle!!!

[edgy shale]

look, i don't care watf any consenting adults do behind closed doors, but when im trying to talk about feral druid and im dodging furry OCs it can be a lot

[tiny oar]

Dodging furry OCS LOL

[grand mesa]

OC?

do i want to know

last time i googled something about something that came out of feral

[tiny oar]

Orginal character

Like ur own unique animal persona or somrthing

Idk I'm not a furry

That's me soon baby thigh highs and shredded abs the way god intended

[tepid spoke]

keep us updated on your journey

[edgy shale]

[tiny oar]

I'll tag u in my Halloween post dw

[tepid spoke]

ill dress as nsfw malfurion

no cap

[edgy shale]

tiktok

[tiny oar]

Nice I'm gonna be an anime catgirl maid

[tepid spoke]

twitter

check out mine (at your own risk)

[tiny oar]

Idk I only use insta out of all of those

I'll tag u in it too I'm posting it in feral

[edgy shale]

puzzle wat is happening in resto

[tepid spoke]

@grand mesa

i want to know too

[grand mesa]

ok

so

[tepid spoke]

need drama in my life

[grand mesa]

one of our more special chatters

messaged a streamer

DM'd

a streamer

@ 4am

very upset about a new video he posted

[tepid spoke]

zimbita

[grand mesa]

and going on and on about it

[tepid spoke]

?

say names

[grand mesa]

then posted the back and forth in resto

[tepid spoke]

its boring

[grand mesa]

and that streamer

got heated

so heated

that 15 hours later

he hopped on max's stream

and vented

for 30 min straight

about how shit druid discord is

[tepid spoke]

LMAO

yes

[edgy shale]

[tepid spoke]

so its zimbita vs growl

so growl thinks our disc is shit

[grand mesa]

then we had another chatter in resto

actually send a long winded message

to growl

counting the GCD's he fucked up

[tepid spoke]

who

[grand mesa]

it was just background beta footage while he talked about state of resto

[tepid spoke]

XDDDDDDDDDDD

[grand mesa]

like it was bizzare

the whole thing

at 4am

[tepid spoke]

oh god

this is gold

calling growl out for playing bad

sounds like a thing i would do

based

[grand mesa]

LOL

key doer

[tepid spoke]

some m+ stream

[grand mesa]

well Luddeus did call Lorgokz a fucking idiot

[tepid spoke]

yep

yes

[grand mesa]

so this is par for Dreamgrove

[tepid spoke]

and we are friends

so

honestly lorgok is chill

that time was fun tho

i just like when ppl troll each other

content

[grand mesa]

the great NF vs. Venthyr Civil War of 2021

Luddeus calling lorgokz an idiot for running NF

echo wins WF

lmao

[tepid spoke]

but they were wrong

[grand mesa]

he was an orange name back then

[tepid spoke]

luddeus is a regular but hes not active anymore

yeah, but venthyr did more damage and that was the arguing

[grand mesa]

lmao

now Naowh's in resto

[edgy shale]

WOAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

U DONT SHIT TALK LORGOKZ

thats my husbando

[grand mesa]

well

i was on the treadmill

30 minutes ago

LOL

[tepid spoke]

i just trolled naowh

W

W or L?

W for me

[edgy shale]

lol who deleted that?

i will just say there is a correlation between hand eye coordination, driving, and playing vi deo games

[tepid spoke]

LMAO im sorry thyme

[grand mesa]

You know

[tepid spoke]

i know what

[edgy shale]

[grand mesa]

This could be all times fault. He’s usually up at that hour. Could have shut down zim

[tepid spoke]

hes watching big tiddies ladies at those hours

confirmed on luddgrove

[grand mesa]

Good for him

[tepid spoke]

MAN

lmao its on his stream vods

[livid swan]

Thoughts?

Only point I’m questioning is berserk:frenzy. If convoke ends up sucking I’d go 2 points in curiosity and 2 points in carn instinct instead

(Dropping frantic as well)

[tepid spoke]

no

wowhead bug

[stray sigil]

its cuz wowhead hasnt updated the tree

cuz they areidiots

[livid swan]

I’m on mobile

So that might scuff it as well

[stray sigil]

na its like that on comp

[livid swan]

Thoughts on build? (With convoke substitution in mind)

[stray sigil]

whyd u take

aoe bite

[livid swan]

Just to get to predatory. Only took sudden ambush before to get to infected wounds. 50% chance per finisher for strong shred or rake seems bad for 2 points so I took 1 dead talent to grab something more valuable elsewhere (the point I have in berserk:frenzy)

[livid swan]

Especially with how much more energy we have to work with. I didn’t feel energy or cp starved ever on beta

No circle??

[stray sigil]

idk 50% chance to have nice rake is troll cuz 2 points

but u take

the haste thing

to get convoke

thats 4 points

for a pretty dog spell

[livid swan]

That’s why I gave an alternative incase convoke ends up being bad lol

[edgy shale]

shred gives 3 cp

[stray sigil]

its already bad though

bites from convoke are 4p now

[edgy shale]

shut up

shut up

[stray sigil]

and they nerfed dmg from btie

[edgy shale]

dont say that

[stray sigil]

so its double nerfed

eat my dick ipod

[livid swan]

Idk if that means it’s bad tho

[stray sigil]

sorry

[grand mesa]

the new mastery bonus feels amazing

[faint marsh]

This gives me anxiety

[stray sigil]

uh

[livid swan]

I’m not convinced it’s not worth 4 points

[stray sigil]

its 100% not worth 4 points

[livid swan]

Doesn’t 1shot like live but still does more dmg than frenzy swarm go

Seems forcing still

[edgy shale]

don't listen to this guy, he uses tf in stealth in pve

[livid swan]

Seems more troll to not play circle

[stray sigil]

im pretty sure dmg will be complete trash

[livid swan]

With how much dmg bleeds do

[stray sigil]

i mean

[livid swan]

That’s hyper troll

[stray sigil]

circle is not a big deal at all lol

[livid swan]

????

[stray sigil]

on live u mostly play it so that hunters can feign ur ff out of a stun

so ur window is all in the stun

but they dont have craven iirc next xpac

so it doesnt matter

nobody plays circle in pvp

and even then

[livid swan]

In DF you play it because bleeds pump

[stray sigil]

its only a dmg inc if u have

[livid swan]

100000% it’s good to take

[stray sigil]

100% uptime o nthe target

im nto saying its bad

im saying ur hella overvaluing it

[livid swan]

It’s a massive dmg increase

[stray sigil]

its not

lol

it doesnt make ur bleeds do more dmg

it will over a period of time

[livid swan]

Yes it does lmfao they tick faster

[stray sigil]

cuz how it works

no

my god

[livid swan]

As long as u have uptime it’s more dps by a lot

[stray sigil]

it makes em do

the same dmg

JUST FASTER

but its the same dmg

lol

[livid swan]

Lmfao I know that’s a damage increase is it not

[stray sigil]

if u have like 100% uptime

[livid swan]

The TICKS are the same damage, but the ticks happen faster

[stray sigil]

if u lose uptime

its a dmg inc

if ur dots are perma

on the target

[edgy shale]

wait

[stray sigil]

if theyre not

its not

[edgy shale]

do i go back and read this convo?

[stray sigil]

no

[livid swan]

I mean with veinripper your rip is like 28s

[stray sigil]

and with circle its like 23

[livid swan]

R u saying it’s hard to keep that up on one guy

[stray sigil]

whats ur point

ll

[livid swan]

Fuji ur frying my brain

[stray sigil]

??

[grand mesa]

pretty good

[stray sigil]

its pretty simple

i cant even take circle in my build

i could maybe drop moonfire for it

but im not convinced its btter

[edgy shale]

fuji also frying my brain

[livid swan]

Idk seems like one of the best capstones we have. Considering how much bleeds got buffed plus we get moonfire now

Ur playing clown build without circle

[stray sigil]

u literally cannot take it

with my build

u can take it freely

cuz ur taking

the dogshit

middle row

[livid swan]

Drop a point in carnivorous or curiosity

[stray sigil]

im sure as fuck

?

[livid swan]

6% tf dmg > circle?

[stray sigil]

do u know

u have to put

2/2

on both

to continue

right ?

if i do 1/2 carn

i lose swarm

[livid swan]

Ooo nvm swarm I forgot ur not convoke yea idk

[stray sigil]

if i do 1/2 cat eye i cant take it

i sure as fuck am not taking middle row

that is the clown shit

100000000000%

[edgy shale]

WTF RE U TALKING ABOUT

[livid swan]

I think ur builds not worth tho circle is too big of a loss, maybe u have to go middle for the sake of getting circle and swarm

[stray sigil]

@edgy shale hes saying this is bad (FOR PVP) cuz no circle

u would have to drop moonfire moc or IW

[livid swan]

Circle very very strong now imo, mandatory talent

[stray sigil]

disagree

[livid swan]

I think u just drop curiosity OR carnivorous and go middle

[stray sigil]

no

lol

[edgy shale]

u can drop

[grand mesa]

ok

[stray sigil]

ur asking me to put 4 points into convoke

[grand mesa]

boomkins

[stray sigil]

there is no shot

[grand mesa]

literally do fucking nothing in arena

@vestal citrus

[livid swan]

Don’t have to take convoke

[livid swan]

Can just take the haste thing to get access to the good talents

[edgy shale]

take 1 point out of the + talent

andp ut it into circle

[livid swan]

Oh wait LMFAO

[stray sigil]

what + talent

[livid swan]

you have 9 points in top tier

[edgy shale]

the icon is a +

[livid swan]

That’s hyper clown I didn’t even notice that

[edgy shale]

it gives u like energy rtegen

[stray sigil]

idk i think tireless is pretty good

[edgy shale]

it is good

[stray sigil]

but maybe u dont need 2/2

[edgy shale]

but 1 point is enough

[livid swan]

Bro be serious

[stray sigil]

if u go moc / cat eyes

u rite

[livid swan]

30 energy and 10% regen or circle (given that you have moc AND curiosity)

Like come on lol

[stray sigil]

ya u right actually

[grand mesa]

say that again louder for the class

[stray sigil]

i would actually not take moc if i could

but i have to take cats eyes

cuz im not giong middle

and cats eye with no moc

def troll as shit

u said soemthing smart for once @edgy shale

proud of u

[edgy shale]

[stray sigil]

ok ipod

on the real

talk to me

brs vs frenzy banmd

i dont like frenzy band

but i also dopnt like brs

im so torn

there

cuz i have to take 1 of these turds

to go down

@edgy shale

[edgy shale]

both are dog shit idk

[stray sigil]

ye

[livid swan]

I took brs the dmg is pretty high

[stray sigil]

but i dont think i need brs with moonfire

for bt

and i have moc cats eye

so shred prob fine

[haughty compass]

just get on beta and test it fuji

[stray sigil]

lul

[edgy shale]

swipe and shred are like the same dpe it doesnt' even matta

[grand mesa]

i don't see the point to shred

idk

[tepid spoke]

nice

they put more arenas in beta

[edgy shale]

well shred is nice in zerk

thats the only point to it right now lol

[livid swan]

That’d be sad if swipe ends up being better just bc cheaper

[stray sigil]

cuz u have to take brs atm

[haughty compass]

nice spec

[stray sigil]

but like brs is ass i dont like pressing it

aoe dogshit

fuck urself

gimme back mangle

u fucks at blissard

[haughty compass]

pog

[stray sigil]

fuk it pod

[haughty compass]

mangle and claws form plz

[stray sigil]

im playing frenzyband

just cuz i cba with brs

dogshit spell

[haughty compass]

and maybe my druid leaves ardenweald

[grand mesa]

@tepid spoke yeah DTL is broken now

[stray sigil]

i hated brs since i made this feral

in s2 of bfa

[grand mesa]

and we fuck rogues

[stray sigil]

hated it with a passion

[grand mesa]

u pair invig for every kidney

[edgy shale]

its just trash brs

[grand mesa]

they can't do shit

[edgy shale]

only nice thing is low energy cost

[grand mesa]

they have to try and kill u on kidney

[haughty compass]

its a combo pt generator, thats it really

brs sucks

[stray sigil]

ya but does low energy cost

even matter

in df

[edgy shale]

prob not

[stray sigil]

do u know ?

i figured it doesnt

[tepid spoke]

shhh

[stray sigil]

guilty told me theres like 30% downtime in pve

prob without brs

so like

[grand mesa]

@stray sigil doesn't it feel bad downgrading from face2face to ipod for pve/math matters

[stray sigil]

wont ever have a problem in pvp

[stray sigil]

yes

[grand mesa]

this thing is honestly so cracked it's unbelievable

[edgy shale]

i don't do my own math shits i just let tmath ppl do math and copy them

face went cracked sometimes with his own maths

like unhinged lol

[dark vigil]

genuine question yall, here's my current UI i love it cuz its what i used to rock back in the cata days, obv you cant see the weak auras and gladius omni cc, but i also feel at times its so hard to keep track of everything like for instance i cant tell me a warrior has casted enrage or not so ill just throw out a soothe and hope for a hail marry. and other times in arena ill be in between a lock dk ranged dmg and 20 minions and kinda get lost even with enemy unit frames any advice?

[stray sigil]

yes but he was mathematical genius from brazil

[dark vigil]

i relly love the simplicity of this ui, but i notice ferals that are 2.5k+ just have 90% of their screen filled

[grand mesa]

ur action bars are very small

do u miss buttons?

as far as enemy nameplates, you can hide minor

[dark vigil]

no not at all lol i dont click im i use hotkeys lmao

i already did that

[grand mesa]

that's not what i asked

do u find yourself staring @ your action bar and trying to pinpoint what's off CD and stuff

[dark vigil]

hmmmm

[grand mesa]

this is mine rn

[haughty compass]

wouold reallllllly like to get on and try stuff

[dark vigil]

now that i think about it

sord of

[grand mesa]

yeah

trying to find a needle in a haystack down there

is taking your eyes off

[haughty compass]

evoker defensive buffs, i wanna see how that looks now

[grand mesa]

what's happening in front of you

[dark vigil]

i remember in cata they had i think sct CC where if my berserk was up in the middle of my screen it would say berserk ready or something

[tepid spoke]

its an insane buff

[stray sigil]

what did they buff

[tepid spoke]

they have a 30% dr on a 1.5min cd with 2 charges now

[haughty compass]

passive armor increase

[stray sigil]

hahahahahahahhahaha

[stray sigil]

ok thats good atleast

but the armor thing pylon

jesus fuck

LMFAO

[livid swan]

If no convoke I think I like that. Trading sudden ambush for heart berserk talent bc I feel like with moc/cat eye berserk frenzy will pump so lower CD berserk might be better

[haughty compass]

what?

[haughty compass]

you're such a little bitch sometimes you know that? lol

[stray sigil]

hahahahahhaa

idk i just found it a bit funny

ill snipe u on feral

all that armor for my bleeds

[haughty compass]

well we're gonna 3s together so

[stray sigil]

why zerk cdr, no bt and symmetry

that is

sus

[haughty compass]

reach the moutaintops

[stray sigil]

🙏

[haughty compass]

I'm gonna be so sweaty

[stray sigil]

i made a mog in ur honor pylon

i called it

my boomer set

[haughty compass]

oh boy...

ok lets see

[haughty compass]

You might be the worst transmogger i've ever seen

[tepid spoke]

XDDDDDDDDDD

[haughty compass]

male ne is pog tho

[tepid spoke]

@grand mesa

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

yeah

this is insane

[edgy shale]

here's some maths

[grand mesa]

this is gonna get nerfed matty

i don't see

how this

survives

[livid swan]

Is>bt is just personal preference I can’t stand bt. Symmetry probably better actually, and zerk cdr bc I feel like with so much energy to work with frenzyband will pump so zerk cdr more valuable than sudden ambush

[edgy shale]

BT is better than lion force or wahtever its called even if u only get it on 33% of finishers

plus its easy asf to proc it with LI, shred, swipe, rake, thrash

even doubly easier now that we have mad RNG regen

[tepid spoke]

@grand mesa

I DELETED IT

SHHH

SHHHS

HSHSHH

[stray sigil]

dont even have to tyhink like that ipod

bt is better all the time

cuz u have more time to actually just proc it forcebly

u dont need to spam dmg better to have 30% dmg on the gos

[livid swan]

Bt definitely better I just don’t enjoy playing it, maybe I’ll like it more with more energy tho

[stray sigil]

symmetry is a dogshit ability

was in sl will be in df

[tepid spoke]

DELETE

[stray sigil]

only remotely useful during zerk

[tepid spoke]

DELETE

[stray sigil]

but ur making a build around zerk

seems very sus

considering how fuckign awful it is

[livid swan]

Ok this is revised build

Rly only question is sudden ambush or zerk cdr

[tepid spoke]

man im fucking immortal

[edgy shale]

u wanted math bitch

[livid swan]

Is frenzyband awful tho? Seems better with how much energy we have

[stray sigil]

na drop aoe bite

[edgy shale]

also, ff works with BT right now for some reason if u didn't knoiw fuji

[stray sigil]

put 2 in SA

and ur build is better

[stray sigil]

ye ik

[edgy shale]

as in, the dmg gets buffed by 30% or wahtever

[stray sigil]

it procs and uses it

for some reason

bug right ?

[edgy shale]

ppl think the first part is a bug

2nd part is intended

so like it shouldn't proc it, but it should use it

[stray sigil]

i think the procing it makes sense

but the useing it seems weird

cuz its not written

[edgy shale]

idk

[haughty compass]

do i try to lfg or fuckit

[stray sigil]

cuz technically

ff is a builder

[haughty compass]

bored

[stray sigil]

so it makes sense it would proc it

but using the stack