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it's like one of those web2.0 ideas in the mid late 2000's
that sounds really really good on paper
but it always is dreamt up
with the assumption
it has the fb
user base
or twitter
user base
to support it
i wanted to stream at first to be able to rewatch my games
but my net is shit or something cant stream 
wow recorder fuji
it's the offline version of
squadov
that's part of the reason why i always stream even if i know its 0 viewers
it's more like a vlog for myself in gaming adventures
wow recorder?
how else could i immortalize pykan not decursing my hex for 8 seconds
yeah i talked to that dude
he said he was inspired by squadov
did u actually use the analytics tho
it was so laggy i never bothered
u don't need pve-level analysis of pie charts and graphs
u just watch vod and see warrior popped conq
only thing i could think of for analytics is if ur really not sure on how some class deals damage and u study damage events for like....mis using the right button for the right CDs
atleast for me
i think CD trading is pretty clear cut in terms of what u match with what idk
it's just a matter of who pops what when
that escapes me sometimes
like who's turn
that is true
tbh
cause that's what pve does well
we can study logs
i would lmao
if it analyzed r1 players
for patterns
like a pvp versino of https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/druid-restoration/the-jailer-zovaal
A Website to compare top parses in World of Warcaft.
i mean all us lower end CE players do is copy what smarter/better players did already
there u go
i really think
with RMP specifically
u could build a computational addon
lmao
WA
if we had the brains and resources from the PVE sides of things
they'd come up with shit that would make people's head spin
even the addons are dropping support nowadays
the author abandoned sarena
some random dude picked it up to fix bugs and maintain it for SL patches
all i know is
omnibar and bigdebuff authors
must love
must live
we must protect them
haha
its already done
i have the WA loaded for beta
hthe nameplate one doesnt work tho
yeah i like it
ive always been non elv and stock
but i needed so many tiny addons
to adjust it to how i wanted
suf is a good standalone
yeah no even when i got to anduin
i was dropping to 30 fps
during intermission
i started chucking so much shit out
azshara intermission when that WA loaded
i still froze for a second
lol
did u have that WA by the time u killed it? it must not be much time
yeah i saw that
Bro watching an aff get trained by demo dk rsham gives me serious pause
Yea I’m very likely making the switch to lock or evoker full time
Taking an expac off of Druid
First since 04
Yea I’ll likely play all 3 lol
Fuji we return you to glory destro feral
does savage roar increase thorn dam
Turn me into a god glyph, ill wear a bib
i will heal whatever if u guys need/want it
hopefully the raid side of things early on doesn't demand much
i don't see why it would but it's blizz
@haughty compass @grand mesa you guys wanna splay for like 30m before i log
nah im about to hop off soon
otherwise i am mistweaving fistweaveing keys
shower and bed
Yea I’m gonna tank my 2s rating to play with the boys soon
Don’t think I can hit elite in 2s as demo dk lol
But wanna help my rsham buddy get 1950 at least

too real
11 real

Legend has it xaryu is still soloing utgarde keep to this day
It’s actually insane how nuts these guys are going
Convinced classic is the hardcore game and we’re actually playing the casual one
ppl do the same psycho shit for retail where they hit max level and m0 tour in like 12 hrs or whatever
but ya it does take longer on classic lol
But like
It doesn’t matter in retail
The difference is doing it all in one night all nighter
Vs. two days
And having a good nights sleep
U get all of your Shit done with time to spare chilling
what do the wrath ppl even have to do? aren't raids not out? start spamming heroics ig
idk if there's actually something important or if they are just nuts
lol
we need a wrath player to tell us
no i won't ask him. he called us nobodies. and NOBODY calls us nobodies. except me if i feel like it
For them to bank 70 quests ahead of time
Or whatever
They have an addon
Called laujch day
Fornefficient route
To turn quests in
Like
They’re unhinged
Ya
People has their leveling parties and xp per hours mapped
People practice utgarde keep solo runs
Blows my mind
like that's unhinged, but its also unhinged to do korthia every day for 2 months
classic is prob more unhinged, yes, but retail has a lot of it too
also 10 hour AVs lol
I’m unhinged yea I know
I didn’t miss an artifact power wq
For I think 2-3 months lol

Was like top 50 on illidan for a while until I quit haha
a lot of ppl did korthia though. god that was ananoying
I liked first week of korthia
My guild and I did a lot of bonding figuring it out
Guild chest runs
Then they all dropped off and I camped portal rares alone
real
Even on vacay I brought my laptop lol

is it really 15 hours
Probably more
I watched xaryu first utgarde run
Check back 6 hours later
Still at it
72.5
But like once they hit max
They just play
I think old wow was good for that
Grind was front loaded but less bullshit after
idk, there's a lot of not playing the game in classic though too. Like imagine having to run a marathon back to ur corpse in raid
Just don’t wipe
so much shit in classic where im like...HOW TF do ppl do that
Isn’t classic raids easy
they are
yeah they are super easy, but the players are also horrible
but only boomer dads play it so
Yeah I think DF will be chill
It’ll be like wod + m+
Which I didn’t play wod but sounds like there wasn’t much to do outside of raid log. M+ kinda fixes that??
u just sat in ur garrison all day n printed money
and m+ is fun, but idk i wish there was more shit to do that's fun
but idk what they could add
BRO
that’s why I came back to this shit game
Cause torghast
I thought it was gonna be to solo duo play
Like m+ did to dungeons
ya
i wish they would go back to less ppl raids
But here I am waiting for 4 or 19 players to play the game. AGAIN
it would be cool if wow could be slightly de-timegated but the sweaty people would just ruin it for everyone
Who cares
idk, it makes people feel obligated to grind
Like I’m getting kinda tired of the game being more shit to keep degens in check idk
like let's say korthia is de-timegated and u can just farm it. does that make it better? probably, idk it would stil be awful though
i like mindless grinds tbh
thats true
like i have a boomkin in wotlk and im doing the uk farm
Maybe timegated is ok
just cause i have nothing to do
It’s dailies that has to go
but i wouldnt quest for the life of me
Mindless grind is chill ya
20 man is cool, but why not add a 10 man mythic for diff achieves for something
I spent 1 year in bdo mjndlessly grinding
idk, could be fun
i actually liked when we had 3 raids per tier, 3 bosses raids
instead of a big ass 10-11 bosses raids
those can be kinda hit or miss, but i do like them. Its kinda lame when its just like...easy boss, ok then end of raid tier difficulty boss where its mad pulls. Its cool when big raids have different paths so u can decide whata u wanna do
@edgy shale u think calzones over pizza?!?!?!
and u don't get stuck as easily
Wtf
facts
yes
where tf r u seeing thata
calzones are stier
I’m trying to find evidence of lakez toxicity
So I was searching her saying shit
Saw her say shit take
Saw what she was replying to
she's said that to me like 10x
Sounds like there’s a common denominator

i mean yea, its not like I put calzones S and pizza F or something. I just prefer the different texture / the dipping action with the marinara sauce and i just think it tastes better
Wonder how calzones do with ketchup

Not as good as pizza I think
stop
😈 I’ll stop by somewhere on the way home tomorrow
next step is puzzle going to a super nice restaurant ordering a $100 steak and asking can i get some ketchup and a1 sauce please
Yo this sounds lit fam
I would never sully a good steak
With a1 sauce
That’s a travesty
Good steak doesn’t need any sauce
True
I have gone to a mich star Korean bbq place
They did like wagyu and dry aged steak
Over the Korean grill
Was kinda weird but p good
and u said 'excuse me chef, do you guys have heinz ketchup?'
No dude u do the Korean bbq sauce
having to do a dungeon every week is the most fucked up thing in all of life
u should be able to bank them
cuz i spam aat start of seasons normally then i start giving 0 phucks
shit is piss easy my gear is kara gear and can still solo these fucks
Yeah it didn’t look that hard when I watched mages do it
Feel like they don’t have a ton of health
I’d be happy if I never had to do a key for raid
they die in 4 of my starfalls i saw a video where they died in like 3 from a geared boomy
I don’t mind doing it for fun sometimes. But yeah
I don’t know what wrath starfall does
Is it targetted or aoe around u
i thought starfall didn't exist anad u hd hurricane instead
when do u get starfall
i remember using hurricane when i played original BC, so its prob added in wraath
in wrath

my gears kinda shit for the grind tho
i have9k mana geared ppl have like 13k i think so i run oom but w.e
fuck going oom
is that good xp?
Morning
Evening :3
New build today? 
I found pykan posting in evoker discord
Told you I’m leaving Druid in shadowlands
Lmao
Told you I’m leaving Druid in shadowlands***
Lakez is actually the greatest bear affer of them all
I only afk 40 yards
She afk for miles and years
I’ve quit wow lots of times
Me too
I’ve said fuck this game I’m never coming back
A few times
Here I am
I gave up fighting it I just play
“Fuck this game I’m never playing again until tomorrow”
My intention is to 1 trick next expac so I don’t have to play as much lol
That’s healthiest approach imo
So many people when things lighten up because players complain about the grind or whatever, immediately fill that time with alts lmao
Just waiting for blizzard
To show how much gear costs
And revive beta queues
Even though i am a part of the problem i guess
haha wdym
Cuz i got beta and not qing
normal shuffle which is shit queues
and skirmish
where raid frames don't work
lmao
Sussy
In terms of classic shit atleasy
and they're adding tier sets
ontop of it
it looks like
i actually don't like the idea of tier sets
for first season
would rather they balance the base trees first
that's the worldpvp set
yeah you do need to be in the middle
with a 30 yard cast range
you can't be on either end
Didn’t get beta, but that’s good because I don’t care
I definitely don’t want it
I want addons back in beta man
Lol
I need to know if I’m crushing damage in dungeons
They’re disabled right now gharnef since last night
You would know if you had beta
I pray for you and fuji to get it this weeks batch tho
hi
very c00l
anyone was watching the wrath thing
why everyone is almost max lvl
but soda 74
xD
ye
Id rather quest and enjoy then sit there soloing a dungeon for however many hours straight lol
.
You said you didn’t want it
would've been alpha if he immediately deleted the toon and went back to DF beta. just to troll the classic andies
I respect your wishes
Reverse psychology only works on 5 year olds pylon
Give it to someone who has played longer than I have
think hes lvling with his gf and its her first time
Pykan doesn't want beta, but I bet Taborlin his mechagnome construct warlock does. Have you seen their class tree? 
I got all the honor gear and prof maxed now I don’t think I’ll play
classic gameplay 
In all seriousness, I just want to try evoker to see if that’s what I want to play. I figure pre patch will give me a good idea
Will the new class show on prepatch
I didn’t play wod so idk how it works
With new classes
Legion you mean?
As in wod prepatch for legion
Yea you could play DH
Evoked felt lame when I was leveling it
And ye I think it released early with prepatch
Evoker starts in dragon lands though
I just have to try it myself, I have a unique taste
So how are they going to proceed out of their starting zone
Gotta go visit Azeroth before we step foot outside our zone
Or whatever kalimdor
No idea I don’t have beta

he didn't solo a dungeon
its worse
there's an elite mob in ice crown
that spawns mobs
if you tag all the mobs he summons
then when he summons more mobs you get the full xp for them
then he had 4 level 1s in his party so he got 5 man party xp

Jesus Christ lmao
and then he had someone pocket healing him out of party
so that other person got 0 xp
sussy
he streamed pre-recorded footage of him soloing utgarde keep
so nobody fucked with him

nahj condiment
very very few ppl will be max lvl at this point
its coming from the pov of a rogue
so its wrong idc
also said something about skipp from saping of kidneys and shit
skill*
Ye u cant kidneysap
Nerf rogue ty
Dh rdru gonna be good can’t wait
He da krek doer
They always good
Until they remove sap from pvp completely. I don’t give a shit what any rogue says
I think rdru will be rdodo tho
I like ketchup

he plays rogue



tru we did shit on snupy savix
we demolished them
broke their mental
wrong if u dont main feral
u are a piglet
tru or tru
kind of
LMFAO
@tropic schooner stuck in q?
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sadge
that looks sussy
is it sussy
wdym
YOU'RE A MORON FUJI AND DAVID
second server I play on also had like 10k queue

ye that sucks
TRUE
Protein powder + milk = I become full of farts
Bro me too
I shared half an ice cream with my kid
Disaster
We also can’t break down alcohol well
But we also miss the common gene for body odor
😂😂😂
might be hard to believe but i have deodorant
Could you imagine
If pykan came home checked his launcher
And saw this instead
What a giant troll lmao
Nah I ain’t even looking
Couldn’t be me crying in my car on my lunch break
I checked. Don’t have it.
Which is good news because I definitely wasn’t hoping to see it

B-baka Blizzard, I didn't want beta anyway

Blizz doesn’t even know how little I care about their dumb beta
Why would they want an opinion of a 17 year player
True
Know my stupid ass is gonna play anyway
Meanwhile David who isn’t subbed and isn’t opt in has it
Dont want opinion of old geezers
Rofl
Hey to be fair i was subbed when i got it
@haughty compass i havent even preordered DF and got the beta, lol
didnt even asked for beta
It’s ok you didn’t want it anyway who cares
same
Don’t do him like that 😂
Lock main now, peace
@haughty compass 
Druid is chillin in ardenweald
My warlock is chilling in ardenweald
See ya
world of warcraft player versus player
Sadge
Whos tryna run rated 2’s?
I'm gunna climb 200 rating tn hundo P
play wow to fill downtime on wow 
i mean i don't think ppl in this channel would really disagree with that but it doesn't change whats happening lol
Thyme new build today?
i have seen people say beta went down
!!!!
no build on the tracker yet
Those are tragic numbers of games tho
Im watching 3k players Q at 2.1
Life is good
What is your 3s enji
2092
Kitty cleavin
Yeah we had a really solid rsham last night pull us from utter despair
If ur at 2.5 mmr at 2.1, you're gunna glide into 2.4
Chilling so hard it's insane
U can boost my glad wins
Maybe new build tomorrow 
So bored
Already in bed lol
New build probably tomorrow that’ll be exciting. Surely druid class tree then
imagine playing retail rn
Ok listen

I have nothing just wanted to reply
world of warcraft player versus player
@haughty compass even thought u definitely don’t want it
Here’s a list of new streamer giveaways https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-wave-of-dragonflight-beta-key-giveaways-are-here-329065
demo lock / healer in 2s is the most brain dmg thing ive ever seen
why is this a warlock discord now
Cuz it's the best class in the game

Like do demo locks literally just queue up and just actually wait for the game to end
yes
im not rly sure what does good vs demo
prob hunter/outlul maybe ww?
rest is just a miserable experience
the imps never despawn
REAL
do u mean for pve?
werent people saying they can perma stun people with sigils
well not like permastun but like perma no casting for healers
thats prob busted w/ their usual constant pressuer
they can prob do a lot more burst now too cuz don't they keep the hunt?

yea its like they had to give them a bunch of shit just so there's enough talents
know thy enemy should be a feral talent
that shit is cracked wtf
is that talent desperate instincts in the game right now in the form of a conduit or something?
ohh, yea auto blur is a talent now but i feel like no1 ever takes it cuz they just take the leech. But that shit sounds annoying, cuz i feel like how u kill a dh a lot of the time is just stun them so they can't blur, but auto blur fucks that
but know thy enemy is in the bottom left of the havoc tree its increase ur crit damage by 100% of ur crit chance
its prob not that good for dh cuz they don't stack crit, but that would be beyond nuts for any spec that stacks crit
but i bet u could like 1 deeg sum1 with the hunt on a crit build lol
oh and pumped eye beams too ig
prob just depends on ur uptime. maybe with good uptime the extend is good, but if ur just chasing a mage the entire time u prob wannt burst ppl with essence break idk
WTF DOES THIS MEAN

For rdruid, what would be the first conquest gear to get ? The staff ?
tierset and then weapon
I have both leggo and tierset from pve, pvp leggo obvisouly.
I have conquest gear ilvl 255 from last season
What max haste, mastery, vers should I aim for ?
no % u rly need to aim for
ON murlock some people have haste instead mastery, so I'm not sure what gear to choose
I have 4k conquest and no quest done for this week
XD I'm at 11% mastery 17.6% haste and 24% vers 😄
I'll get the focus staff then. Thanks
Hey, I am kinda new to PvP with my druid tank.
Today i got the necklace with haste and leech in the vault.
Now my question, is the one with leech and the "wrong stat" better than the one with mastery but no leech (wich i have currently equipped)?
Nop
leech as a tertiary doesnt work in pvp
not entirely sure what the numbers would be like, but it could be dumb broken for healers if it existed in pvp
it prolly would be even stronger for dps
wait the 3rd stats don't work in PvP anymore?
hrmpf -.-
@vestal citrus i thought they worked in normal bgs :D
if 3rd stats don't work in PvP, why can they appear on the gear then?
Wouldn't it be better to have something else what works in pvp on the gear? Oo
they appear on PvE gear, PvP gear doesn't have them
it does.
@mortal flume
bad implementation from blizzard as usual, you don't get it on PvP gear from vendor
tertiary stats are proc when you get the item, they just forget about that in the pvp part of the vault
doesn't matter in the end, this stat shouldn't have been there on the pvp gear and it is but it has no impact in the end
Its just for outdoor stuff
Pvp gear is just pve gear when you're not fighting kids anyway
@vestal citrus dh looks cracked rn
Obv beta numbers tuning but essence break hurts haha
They get a lot of shit they want for dam yeah. Fodder and hunt
Can run soulrending + auto dark/nether
And have their own infinite CC on healer
And they’re previously not an orc/rele class so relatively speaking they’re gaining over a lot of others
is that talent that reduces tf out of darkness CD in the game in some form?
cuz it seems like a lot
But yeah idk obv numbers tuning can fuck em but they’re getting a lot
I’m happy for my dh partner. We’re gonna blast 2s hahaha
Auto dark was a lego idk if it’s still there
Oh I meant auto blur
bruuuh auto blur is a talent we were talking about it earlier u noob
I just think soul rending + nether is nuts
Especially if they do this much dam
I remember we tested trial of ruin soul tending against demo dk in s3 with all the pets and he did as much healing as me lmao
prediction: dh is gonna be best spec in game s1 of DF
It’ll probably dominate shuffle lol
altho i think it might break some dh players brains to have this many more buttons
this isnt the tank channel
If you’re talking RBGs guardian still has a version of sleeper in their spec tree so…
talking about havoc
They seem insane looking at the talents
@vestal citrus yeah they’d definitely benefited from having their tree one of the last after blizzard figured out how they want to do trees
Being first draft kinda sucked for us lol
there's changes to the class tree coming

Apparently max accidentally leaked?
Offhand comment or something that he’s seen the new druid class tree. Who knows. I’ll believe it when I see it
Does yo fearl pumps in df
Pog
My wife’s boyfriend works at blizzard he showed me
Is he hot at least
I love men
He’s so hot
wouldn't surprise me
that man's the leakiest motherfucker on the planet
That is a gross sentence.
GTA6 leaker disagrees
He can be leaky all he wants if it’s to spill some more druid deets lmao
its crazy that some classes get slands covenant abilities in their class trees
like sub rogue has the ability to get 3 slands abilities
I just think that’s the nature of druid having 4 specs and being a utility class
If they just baselined more of our shit they probably could have been more creative/aggressive with powers idk
the more i think about it i just feel like 2s is going to become double dps
like the feral tree honestly is cracked af for 2s
Idk I need it to be closer to final tuning and for there to actually be queues popping on beta. Have an opinion on anything
i having existential dread right now honestly
how come u think that
you can play both convoke and bleed build
extremely similar to what we have now
ferals surv is just as good and now you rip through trinkets like its nothing
you basically have a confirmed kill by 3rd trinket
thats with mindset that no other classes got upgraded in their trees lol
so many classes got insane trees that even us getting convoke
is like nothing in comparasion
if the bt ff bugged interaction stays maybe
Feral kit will always be ok in 2s
if our class tree doesnt change
i dont think well be that isnane tbh
like well be mediocre to average
I mean if that ff/maim go is that cracked then GG you win on 2nd convoke lmao
well see with tuning
Yeah
so many bugs still hard to tell
if ff bt interaction stays bugged
and rip n tear stays bugged
I can’t judge non convoke maim go’s cause rip and tear
im also not entirely certain about convoke being that big of a deal
in terms of like insta killing
But that one is guaranteed fix
Currently their CDR talent CDRs 1s per 1 rage spent. So you need like 5-6 ironfurs to full CDR incarn again
And they still have sleeper
They’ll actually spend an entire arena match unccable
It also depends on how much self healing people have
Ya I can test if I find a warm body
See how much convoke does
So much shit just passively out heals bleeds
wdym
It’s hard to judge niya mastery vs. all the shit feral got in tree
For me
I’m not a numbers guy to begin with
nothing in the tree buffs bites
Maybe the bites hit harder in DF relatively?
nothing new atleast
sbt is already in game the same way
so that doesnt change
i suppose bigger CI is the only thing
prob actaully worse
since soul got nerfed aswell
oh nvm
1s per 1 rage??? Wtf
not the dmg portion
Yeah
so its like the same thing as it is on live
I spent a dungeon 90% in incarn
Oh ok good
I incarned like 4 times in 1 pull
Or some shit
But I kinda want to try it once with sleeper in shuffle
Just to troll and never be CC’d the entire round

It would be hilarious cmon
@stone breach are u familiar with wow tools at all?
Is this what we pay attention to?
Maybe thyme knows
Yes and no. I work in software so lots of the concepts are familiar and intuitive, but I don't have experience with it
The site tracks updates to the game data
Right
So idk if I’m supposed to pay attention to the part that says most recent version of each game
Or the section I just posted
Or if they update the same
SimC's discord has a bot that tracks notable builds, if it doesn't show up there, there likely no major changes
Wowtools might track every single version, ones where it could just be minor code changes
do you think theyre going to change the node amounts in our class trees?
wotlk leveling so slow
Will wrath be dead when df comes out

Rumors and leaks indicate yes
What dragon color is best for feral pvp
Rainbow pink
What if I'm necrolord tho
What’s necrolord in DF
Why didn't they give us kyrian bind too
I hope tiger dash is replaced with displacer beast or (even better) soulshape
I'd never give up wild charge for tiger dash
I'd sometimes give up wild charge for soul shape
What if you could run really fast for 5 seconds tho
No ty
Problematic spell. Same with RF
Ravenous frenzy
Still the same, covenant not tied to dragon colour
So what happens to the life long covenant I agreed to


U get exiled
You can still hang out with your dead friends every time you go back into the dead lands
So pretty much every time you get clapped by RMP
You can wave to your boy marileth
And pet Kevin
Bring back Kevin so convoke is useless
Why are ferals so fundamentally opposed to convoke
I'm fundamentally opposed and not feral
It’s insane value for 2 points
cuz its a boring no iq button
just go to goldshire in the duel area
and look at the ferals there
bunch of em 1800 at like
200-300
hard carried by 1 button
is why i dont like it
Not a surprise
feji
Ah
fataphors
Ye i follow
why bad? if anything thats actually good to not make pvp gear better in raids/pve
cause it doesnt work in any rated pvp, in random bgs it may work? not sure open pvp it does work but eh those are kindof what ever
I wouldn’t want RNG procced tertiaries from vault to work inside arena either
yea I dont think its a bad thing either
Yeah I think aside from upgrading gear based on rating and absurd honor required, the pvp gearing has been a bright spot for SL
True
I like upgrading based on rating
but honor requirment was too high for sure
especially top end
It creates problems
When u are close to the next breakpoint
And u perma outgeared
But ye its overall
U have to rise above it
A lot better than doing pve
The fact i can get fully gear without doing a single raid or dungeon
Is very epix
And the ilvl is very relevant at duelist
Curious if conq gear in DF would actually match current duelist
That seems op
Would make pvp required
Ilvl is sussy pver metrics


