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its like a lidl innervate for 1 point
yea it does still sound very reasonable esp in pvp
And download a weakaura
That tracks how long it’s been since you’ve been in every form
And cycle lol
Idk I like the idea of form swapping like that. Falls right in line with class fantasy. But it would have to be really strong to make it feel worth it and incurring GCDs just to swap
in pvp I think its a lot easier to just swap stuff
for mana sustain
compared to pve
ofc cant always make it and depends what you lose for it may not be worth but it does sound quite likely to be useful
Idk I swap pretty frequently. Way shorter than 15s intervals. At the same time I don’t sit in bear for 15s either usually
yes but swapping more often isnt bad?
maybe you wont procc it exactly on cd but thats also not a huge issue
It might be nice to swap bear then stack 10 furs
That’s probably the >15s swap that would probably happen most frequently naturally
Without aiming for it
oh yea that part works too
thats true
was mostly thinking about mana
Ok Im convinced David
Even with more intended behavior I’ll probably prefer furor to NV
Nature valley
Just no clue how you build it. You have to go down decently in right side to get rejuv extension. Unless u opt out completely and lose 3s baseline
idk my issue with nv its just that its like a markers button
like to get actual dmg u would have to use every healing cd possible
and then you just lose
if u dont kill
which u probably dont
My idea was counter pressure
Kinda like fighting into earth ele lego is bad
Sometimes
Or feels bad
It hasn’t played out that way tho in shuffle
but its so minimal
if the enemy healer isnt afk its like no dmg
Maybe with flourish
But you’d never drop VI
Flourish and NV feel p good together since they’re both 1.5min
In keys
Yeah
its like the buff they gave to mw 20% dmg on blackout kick or whatever
Was hoping for some decent passive dam while afking
its useless cuz u dont use it anyway
idk i could see it into like
sustain dmg comps
or like comps you know will do a huge go every 2 mins like affli darksoul
but just general shuffle notrly
atleast so far on beta
No solo shuffle tourney showed
That damp is gonna be a big deal
And furor is gonna save so much mana
ESP if it’s remotely like now
theres no shot it stays like this tho
I think rdruids deserve infinite mana
@stray sigil agrees
Then don’t even need to be nelf to meld drinks
We go KT and punch bitches for a stun
but ye idk
i said its good from the start
and u and face said iam wrong and nv side is better
verysus
how would u build
idk wheres the problem
we agreed that furor good NV bad
wheres the problem
i swear getting kick is better than 15% ms lol
Tireless pursuit is so fucking good
Tbh
Like I can outrun fury’s distance for reck charge sometimes
is it likely that feral will never rly play moonfire with the current build?
having to take PW and double rake to get there feels kinda bad
From my small testing feral dmg feels a bit overtuned
Both bites and bleeds pump
Which feels great
Every shuffle I’ve done with a feral they did negative dam
But obv could def be player diff
I don’t see how that’s possible
just sitting here with dots on the dummy and it looks like this
Where is ff?
not pressing it just comparing dmg of moonfire/rake/rip/thrash
I was playing moment of clar
thats with these talents, so its doing just about as much as rake with the +30% ralent
Frenzy berserk
but yeah 3 points for moonfire is tough
ya idk
I think the talent below circle will be nice
Procs quite often
ur tree kinda bad no cap
thats not my actual build, just what i was using to test moonfire dmg lmfao
just slapped some points in there
apex def not a pvp talent
this is what i was playing assuming u take moonfire
whyd u take frenzyband
Why convoke ew
1min convoke too clean
its so hard to give up
I put a ff rip rake on someone last night with swarm and they jsut died

In a duel ofc
0% vers
ys idk tony p’ays beta and does no dmg
feral dmg is pumping rn
idk about this
so my real question si
It felt the most overtuned out of what I tested so far
assuming ur taking 1min convoke, do you take circle and drop BT/frenzy/swarm for it?
no
i didnt take carnivorous
but i took veinripper
soni had no points
ig if u dont want veinripper u can take carnivorous its fune
so u take brutal slash?
ye
im rly not a fan of it
I didn’t take brutal on my build
me neither
feels like with 2 points here u AND moment of clarity u dont rly need the cheaper cp
Cat eye?
im not taking frenzyband curio
To get vein
no
u dont have 2 points to put there
lol
frenzyband also all kinds of dogshit
I jsut though points In and dmg felt good
would never touch that
Yea it’s not great but it at least does something
It’s an beefs up an ass cooldown a bit
if u could frenzyband > veinripper maybe
but curio is usless
thats too much energy
How is it useless
It’s actually so nice
its overkill
I wasn’t playing convoke though
Share ur import string
i posted it like yesterday or the day before im on phone
Every moc shred gens 20 energy
Ah
So nice
Laters i guess
NA today
Isn’t more energy gen never bad for feral
Hype
We have no cd on anything
Do you think if wow added another pvp game that is not hit yourself until someone dies and has objectives, i guess like a bg but with a smaller team (3-5 people), would it be popular?
i was thinking about it
I don’t like objective based pvp tbh
id love to play more games with my friends but they dont enjoy arenas that much
Even if it’s small scale
what dont you like about it
People don’t play objectives lmao
ah well that would be an issue LOL
id love something like HotS objectives game or something
I haven’t played hots since launch but I kinda hated that too. Like if your team wasn’t moving well together you’d be 5s late to objectives over and over again lol
yeah
@tiny oar it was on pc
Idk for me personally the BGs I liked the most was the ones where objectives were less prominent
temple?
They could bring 5s back
I spend half my time in stealth watching LM or farm cause no one else wants to stay in the more objective oriented BGs
Would he fun now I think
And I just want to lull myself
i love being stealthy in rbg but i dont sit on bases tho
i go and ninja shit 1v1
XD
yeah, i feel like in 5s you could play more with friends and its not that impactful if one or 2 aren't that good at pvp
I wish it wasn’t such a chore to get cq yeah
Would love to frag with friends and just farm it easily
ah so fuji youre not taking swarm?
i wonder how strong a frenzy go would be without it
its not how pvp works
no i am
i think is what i would take
take bt prob
i just missclicked on that node
ah gotcha. i still hate BT so much lmao i might just play the passive one
ye thats fine im not sure about bt
sicne i take symmetry
i think it might be better to go bite force
not sure
actually
thats 1 ill have to play around with
maybe this is pepega but i think bite force is more value with convoke?
depending how many bites u get BT would only apply to 2 of them, if u get 3 bites BF would be more dmg
er.. lions strength* they changed name
i think u would need 4 bites to out dmg bt
with bite force
but its less clunky with symmetry too
ah yeah true, its 4
i wonder what the distribution of bites is. whats % of 4 or more bites per convoke
cuz i dont think u would be able to proc it reliably for all of the symmetries
4 for 1 minute convoke i think is prob in the high rolls
no sure i havent touched convoke in a while on retail
i would assume 2-3 is the norm
but since it doesnt cast tf anymore
Ok fejer
def impacts it too
try that build
would u could the bite after convoke? u always end with 5cp so end of every convoke cast is an additional bite
looks the best to me
1sec logging also
so with that in mind maybe its actually 3 or more DURING the convoke, since 4th bite is free
Any1 got details for beta
nto sure i have had time in retail where i got less than 5 cp after c onvoke
entirely rng not sure
yea i almost always end with 5 so
ye usually will be 5 or 4 if u get unlucky with it
and what ssymmetry again?
this?
And WA
that they renamed ig
yes
Whatsup
since brs replaces swipe
Just curseforge
and swipe is now affected by zerk
u can just
do like
tf zk ff bite
brs bite
brs bite
is wgat im thinking
3 brs bties
but i dont have beta so i cant test it
man i might still be leaning towards TF% dmg tho, 12% more dmg on FF/swarm and convoke is good
this tree has a lot of options tho which i like. only thing im rly sad about is moonfires positioning. should push the regrowth thing over there and moonfire far left in first tier row 3
what would u drop o my tree for it
u cant rly
u could drop brs veinripper
but i think thats better than 12% mroe dmg on 30s idk
u cant even bc brs is necessary to get to the 3rd tier
blizzard smoking krek again
so u could only drop veinripper for 6% dmg and keep brs but thats awful..
theres nothign wrong with my internet
so i think its either brs veinripper OR u drop circle, take one of the berserk talents, and go carnivorous
i think veinripper and circle is the juice though
but circle with veinripper so strong
thats the problem
yea for sure
carnivorous is probably max convoke sauce build
but for 99% of games the sustained pump too good
1shot ppl outside org im going carnivorous
i think i like ur build tho fuji, thats probably the move all things considered
so i think tentatively im taking this
true or true

hopefully they change some stuff in class tree tho
i would pick the 4s longer skin
over the shield on skin
but thats my build too
maybe furor is good
probably depends on matchup
bnot sure
rogue mage id take shield probbaly
depends how hard ur getting slammed inside the stun or if they are going u
if u pre bear with 6% dr
- the 6% vers in bear
thats 9% dr
- bear
maybe im not giving it enough credit
idk how big the shiled is on beta
i also rly like this, i hope they find a way to have that be playable without having to trade throughput for it. putting that in the class tree would be cool. just dont see how u could ever pick it in the spec tree
the class tree is cursed
ye
its like u get nothing
its pretty horrible
I have strong cope it’ll get reworked
its just bc of cyclone i think
for resto skull bash is a cool extra that u could take but not their core kit. feral cyclone is part of the core kit, so u have to invest way harder in the top of the tree as feral
vs boomy or resto
bro if u look at rogue tree
iam prettysure kick is baseline
monk tree its like 1 point
most classes dont even talent into their kick
rofl
MY RAKE STUN
yea its tough for sure. i dont think class tree needs a rework like the feral one used to but it needs some swaps
we are kinda fookd
i def think it needs a rework
the last nodes
are all super underwhelming
If they just reduced 3 point nodes to 1-2 and slapped a lot more interlocking paths
As a bandaid fix
I’d be happy enough
Even if I think class tree is ass
nobody cares about rdru being happy
I can live with that
tru or tru
We shall see fuji
okfejer so
he will need it
Pykans New Pal
whats the feral opener
i rather see all the egirls happy (rdru players are 95% female)
on beta
Is his team name that’s neat
what buttons do i click

uh
try like tf rake ff rip or sometyhing
and watch the dmg
on that
oh
press swarm
tf rake ff swarm rip
and tell me the dmg
😂😂😂😂
tf in stealth is most cringe thing
in general tho being able to alternate swarm/ff and convoke every other maim feels clean. SL whether ur convoke or necro every other go is limp. having kill potential on ur own EVERY MAIM is pretty cool
I think that’ll feel p good ya
interesting
do it on players mfer
how many rips did u press
1
HAHAHA
LOL
1 rip
Show the window on the right
its 1 rip iam not fooling u
Axtin is up now
NA already has a more interesting matchup first game
ihave 220k hp atm
so ye on opener
its bigdam
i think
what the guy said
alternate convoke and ff swarm
seems big
find one
axtin noob lost
@grand mesa boomer log in and help david
bro icant ppl on beta
are so sussy
snupy made profession rings
and enchanted them
and gem
who does that
mfs with no bitches
real
Good point tbh
ye thats why i picked priest in overall best healer
mightve been a cracksmoker pick
but who cares
Marv shoulda went Venthyr
real
I’m out
I’m figuring out how to do the same thing later lol
very poggers
Inscription for staff. Then jewelery for rings

I need to learn crafting system anyway
Better state at it now and confused than when it’s live
ok big marv on the board
but idk its so sus
every expansion
they say crafting is pog
but it never is
and professions are meme
havent done any profession since legendary crafting in legion
is snupy still playing the no-convoke build
I know hes not the best but hes a nerd and he must have some kind of an idea of whats best
I’m happy for snupy
Big talent tree lots choices
So many possible YouTube videos
😂😂😂

zehecy is baiting me so hard rn
i also bit
almost
Snupy is a lad
ive never seen axtin angry on stream
youve never seen axtin on stream*
The 150% bleed in zerk is sooo nice though its like 2nd damage on openers. But i guess circle is more sustained
do u mean frenzyband

Yeah in dl
hahaha its so funny they just press W
Absterg, what a stud
hes kinda washed now
Sterg no slouch either
not a top top no mo
also trill is sus playing venthyr
Purge nice
Ah non meta, David sperging out
Purge nice against disc Fuji
Is what I’m saying
well idk
It’s nice to see people hard swap and kill these stupid outlaw rogues
kyrian is too broken
the cov ability gives u better cdr
i tried venthyr outlaw before
its just worse
yeah but if u get ccd on the venthyr go it sucks ass
4 wins, so
if u get ccd on kyrian go you still have the blue combo points
like the cdr u get from kyrian is noticeable imo
Pikaboo kinda washed now, wonder if he takes this
yes
ah
Kinda true

How am I the most sus boomer
in this server u are kind of
in general thaderyl is way sussier
he gets butthurt over anything u say at him rofl
I feel too dumb to watch these tournaments
what is supafat smoking saying ret counters outlaw
idk i cant stand eyla as a caster
tf
fejicel
Yea, not her skill set
they need someone like healingstat back in the day
the volume on the stream is so low i barely hear them anyway
seomone with a lot of game knowledge
pika trolling 
thats what their missing
cuz ven supa and ziqo
are all kinda stupid at times
eyla doesnt know whats going on
That’s pykan tho
I am soft, I am sorry. I don’t know y’all, I am getting it lol

🛑
pylon my favorite
Enjoy fake America David
dopabad 
Based
poe main for sure 

not strong enough for that i think
Oof
Ye lmao
It doesn’t
It’s ok, I use fly me and out you in their Los so they attack you and not me
Why does my raiding affect anything
I only raid Tuesday Wednesday
And keys Friday Saturday when they matter
Raiding = sussy
Fuse is cracked man

“Oh Evelyn is fussy cause it’s about her nap time we have to leave early thanks for having us!!!”
So true
Leave early from what
dont have top leave early
Everything
I’m at a friend’s baby’s 100 day lunch
I tried that Fuji and you lose those friends
It’s much harder to maintain friends the older you get cause you have less common ground when you’re in your own family nucleus’s. Have to put in effort
cant lose friends if u have none
👍
It’s like when you’re q’ing arena with friends already and another friend asks to Q and you can’t so they never talk to you again
I’ll be your homie
never agane
Fair
I have so much DM evidence

I didn’t mean to
truth
We’re all 10 years old
Well I deleted my mage so

wait a second
I am not good at arcane
I would’ve queued anything with pykan cause I considered him a good pal
I am good at demo
Puzzle my boy
But pykan said nah
Just leave the character at the mission tables
Am I the baddie!
Lyman was actually the villain the whole time
He’s the one pulling the strings
real
Third disc reveal
The German Soldiers - PART 2
That Mitchell and Webb Look - Season 1 Episode 1
ditchign me and fejer
ditching puzzle
very sus guy
and he saying that
iam toxic
real
Great minds
He tries to steal me from DH buddy for his dk demo thing
yes

Who’s the softie now!?
"the real pylon"
I accept this
that we are toxic

I feel gaslit
Pykan popped out of the vent and assassinated fuji and then convinced me it was me who popped out of the vent
Well I guess it’s time to ruin other people’s lives in a different discord
?!?!?!?
pykans new home
Yea still not sure demo or evoker
If only i had beta and friends
But I am a beta with no friends

they said bicmex is subbed for samayam who couldntplay
I went demo to have better synergy with new Druid friends...
And I got lost in the rush to 2.1

oldman got lost in the sauce
u lost ur ways
My alt druid has higher MMR than my main lol
After that sesh
Pykan
I would have given u my main
But u went all thanos
prev legendary
Prev is Taborlin level great
Jelly and pika too used to 1400 viewer games. Playing this gimmicks
Dipi god
Is prev playing hpal
Any Dipi fans in chat?
Prev sp
🙋🏻♂️
Agree tbh
Maybe he played NA cause our ferals are superior
na its cuz sam couldnt play
Shocking that Sam is randomly unavailable
idk whenever i see ssd play
but thats it really yes
he perma cries
Of all the hours I watched cdew
like he cries about anything
Half of it was him waiting for Sam to show up
but he is good
I don’t think Sam is that good
Sam is nuts idk
sam is pretty good
I WANNA WATCH
Yeah
Dipi best moonkin world
Flaky af
True or true
Would drive me nuts
I can’t stand BDL
He such an ass and then sits there and wonders why he’s got no queues and no one takes him seriously
we like foxy
Yea he’s a tool man. Meta
Although I prime subbed to foxy after we beat him
Then he gave me the middle finger and told me to fuck my self
I like that
Hahahahhaa
I love that
iknow hes good
he prob said that lauging knowing foxy
as my boomers here would say
he is a goofball
Yeah it was half troll
Big knuckle head
Going pretty iPod right now with his David simp

cuz i wrote fuck me axtin
This incident has been reported to the proper authorities. Thank you for your time.
hes like 16 ye
Sadger
Yeah. But I got two handles of Japanese whiskey so all is good
brain ax same team
Mes axtin bicmex brain
Rdr was doing good on eu
tuna about to lose 6 rofl
common axtin L
Too many things counter sickle
clapper 
Dipi the god
boomy underrated in this formal
format
cuz it can actually kill with this fast damp
and good cc
kinda interesting
tru or tru
dipi massive gamer
dipi carrying dopamine in the boomy mage rofl
Is Dipi actually the goat
Fuse > Axtin so far
axtin with 2 hunters and outlaw gg
idk prob isnt awful not sure
Lol
i hit 2.1 with kitty but then we tanked back to 2030 or something
Keep pressing on my boy
feel like everytime i try comms we start losing lol
