pvp

[grand mesa]

Mage with broken armor vs priest 🤣

[tropic schooner]

45 mins games being insane exception in some very specific comps

I remember having some in OG wrath

but I played ret resto druid

which was not the best comp at finishing stuff

think had some 45 min games into aff lock/heal

but not common in the slightest, especially if you play better/more agressive comps

[heady meteor]

do u like fit in a smoke break or what

just pause it at 20 mins

[tropic schooner]

dont be weak

[heady meteor]

I'd have to take my metformin and drink water

[tropic schooner]

so leave the game

[grand mesa]

This is why I vape

This is why I vape

[haughty compass]

That’s why puzzle vapes

[viscid remnant]

if they give conq boxes i make dmg alt if not i make rsham

🤝

[haughty compass]

They gonna release evoker early with conquest boxes

[grand mesa]

Deal

[grand mesa]

No shot

[haughty compass]

Lol

[viscid remnant]

hm

do i remake unity

for a little extra stats

or nah

[heady meteor]

are you a minmaxer

if you're ok being weak then whatevs

[clear pulsar]

No I'm a winmaxer

[grand mesa]

[viscid remnant]

ok iam too smart

ill just make a cape unity to replace penance lego

and then apparatus on finger

gg

[heady meteor]

your people specialize in making jewelry right

[clear pulsar]

No more disciplinus?

[viscid remnant]

imean

just wanna try hpriest

with warr and feral

its probably a bit better in 2s

in 3s disc

also kyrian feels a lot better on holy than on disc for me

[grand mesa]

Disc in 2s is sus I feel

[viscid remnant]

i feel like its only better with outlaw and hunters

but maybe even then you could argue for holy

[sour sinew]

Y’all winning sons and not sons?

[tiny oar]

Not sons

[grand mesa]

I’m getting kinda bored lately

[sour sinew]

I was trying to be inclusive

[grand mesa]

Isn’t there a guy name voodoo who posts here

[woeful spade]

When should I zerk opener

Playing with surv hunter

What should my goes look like?

I know we talked about it a little before

ALSO, do I look to clone out of hunter traps? or bash clone

but then DR's with intim

hmm

[tiny oar]

Lol I was just meming, appreciate the thought

[tiny oar]

Yea voodooray or sum shit

[grand mesa]

https://twitter.com/zurzabtw/status/1569129919824949248?s=46&t=ZGjZ17j6ti6Ih4_USmQksw

Logan 🔥 (@Zurzabtw)

Finally beat a guardian druid in 2's. Is this damage and healing acceptable for a tank in rated PvP? Hmmm @WarcraftDevs

Twitter · Sep 12, 2022, 1:05 AM

I knew that name sounded familiar

[viscid remnant]

rogue mage

complaining

[grand mesa]

About guardian

Idk who I side with

Conflicted feeling

[stone breach]

Is that 2x guardian?

[grand mesa]

I don’t think u can dbl tank queue

[tiny oar]

I feel like they kill the rdruid so easily

[viscid remnant]

idk man

[tiny oar]

Must be guardian rdru

[viscid remnant]

how do u lose as rogue mage into that

u just run away from incarn

wheres the problem

[tiny oar]

Truth

[grand mesa]

He’s balance

[tiny oar]

Wtf

[grand mesa]

Balance guardian

[stone breach]

Boomy + guardian hmm

[tiny oar]

Kill the balance?

Easy game?

[stone breach]

Balance won't die first go

[tiny oar]

Surprised they're even 2k tho tbh?

[grand mesa]

I don’t think balance dies easily

[stone breach]

And going makes them vulnerable to bear

That boomy isn't going to pop out and shit starsurges

They're gonna CC and livelord

[tiny oar]

Bust blades again on 3rd go

Dead owl gg

[grand mesa]

U know what

I side with the guardian

Cause fuck rogue mage

They complain about everything too

[tiny oar]

Yea I mean

Rogue mages think they're the underdogs somehow

Cant explain that mental gymnastics

[stone breach]

We stan a thick bear. Where's moop to sing the praises of bear?

[tiny oar]

We stan druids over RM ALWAYS

[grand mesa]

This

I won’t forget sl rogue mage or warlock for a very long time

[tiny oar]

I wont forget them at any time cuz they'll still be op in DF surely

(NOT THAT IM PLAYING IT)

[haughty compass]

Lol moonkin guardian at almost 2100 is based

[viscid remnant]

Real

Ill never forget when they nerfed rogue from literally oneshotting ppl on cd whaaz cried its unplayable

i could be smokin some goodolfash crack but holy feels so shitty to play maybe too used to disc

[clear pulsar]

So we just ignore that the mage and rogue are also doing more healing than the hybrid dps spec

[viscid remnant]

and thats without alter time healing

ROFL

[viscid remnant]

2 unitys on reduces cd double ? REAL

[haughty compass]

What? Lol

[viscid remnant]

joke

because hes wearing cov lego and unity

braindam soloshuffler

[stone breach]

Ohnoo

[safe heart]

There's no way that stacks

[viscid remnant]

Ofc it doesnt

[woeful spade]

Anyone mind answering my feral questions?

[stone breach]

Half this channel plays feral ask away

[livid wasp]

half this channel is like 3 people ROFL

[stone breach]

Ya

[heady meteor]

I've been trying to lose weight no reason to make me feel bad

[viscid remnant]

I dont play feral sorry

[heady meteor]

I have no idea if the pvpeeps here are high ranked or elo whatever idk I'm trying to learn how to fight people

[viscid remnant]

U do u

[livid wasp]

isnt fuji the only really high xp one

[viscid remnant]

formy is here sometimes

havent seen him answer too many questions

[stray sigil]

formy just uwus now

[stone breach]

[grand mesa]

I like formy

U not lkkkng holy @viscid remnant ?

[viscid remnant]

not rly

but need to swap around my binds probably

[stray sigil]

holy gonna be better in 2s

[random patrol]

I'm the balance druid in that post

"how dare I play with with my friend"

yeah he's guardian but like that's what he plays so I deal with it and make it

[viscid remnant]

[random patrol]

work

[stray sigil]

[random patrol]

"how dare a person play what they like"

[stray sigil]

nobody cares that he likes to play tank

the problem is

he shouldnt be able to q arenas playing tank

[random patrol]

Idc I say let the world burn

we just meme comp it

[stray sigil]

i mean the only reason ur thing works

is cuz of 1 legendary

next expac

back to mordor you guys go

[random patrol]

that's fine

I'm only doing 2s for the gear

not my first 2100 but the meme one

[stray sigil]

its his first 2.1

we dont talk about s2

everyone was inflated 400 cr in s2

[random patrol]

true

[woeful spade]

How tf do I play against mongo cleaves every game as feral?

Do I peel instantly?

Do I just pump?

[stray sigil]

whats a mongo cleave

[woeful spade]

like I feel useless every game as feral

[stray sigil]

retwar turbo ?

[livid wasp]

kite their cds

[woeful spade]

War / DK

DK / Prot

[haughty compass]

I support the double Druid gambit

[woeful spade]

war / prot

Turbo

[stray sigil]

ur the one dying

or im assuming ur healer

[woeful spade]

yes

[stray sigil]

is just dead insta ?

[woeful spade]

usually one of us

nah

we just slowly die

fall behind

Slowly die in 1 min I mean

Like they pop everything, we survive

[stray sigil]

dk comps should be kinda free for jungle

[woeful spade]

but then just still dying

[woeful spade]

Yeah I'm losing every game no idea what I'm doing wrong

[stray sigil]

maybe over commiting cds during theirs ?

[random patrol]

all I'm sayin is I like to q with people regardless of what they play and while yes guardian is lame I'm not going to not q when it's a friend vs sitting in lfg for hour on end, especially in this dead season, 2s is a meme anyway

[woeful spade]

What should I be doing the entire time? What should hunter be doing?

Against most comps

[stray sigil]

hunter cant really peel shit off right

[woeful spade]

Yea

[stray sigil]

he can like chimera dk and sac on cds but thats it

[haughty compass]

I played against blood dk hpal as demo rsham at 1.9

AIDS

[stray sigil]

just need to do dmg on his part

but what are u dying to vs dk comps

is it just abom where u guys press everything

[woeful spade]

Nah it's after abom

So abom ends, and we're still behind

and just slowly die

can't catch up

[stone breach]

We stan bear kings against RM

[stray sigil]

dk dmg after abom is pretty ass i thought

[viscid remnant]

ye it is

[random patrol]

if you survive the abomlimb you should be fine

[stray sigil]

also feel like dk comps kinda easy for u if they go u

u can just make distance

[stone breach]

Feral should never lose to DK

[haughty compass]

Kinda true

[stone breach]

You melt him through IBF

[stray sigil]

just doint commit ur mobility

before he grips

and hell never catch u lol

[random patrol]

^

[woeful spade]

Who are kill targets generally?

[stray sigil]

tbh also not sure if ur committing zerk in opener

vs dks

but u shouldnt i think

most likely are gonna just ibf a stun

[random patrol]

is he necro or nf feral

[woeful spade]

Necro

[stray sigil]

if u see a dk in a melee cleave

u go dk

[haughty compass]

I’m gonna do an NF feral push soon.

[stray sigil]

without a dobut

[haughty compass]

Because why not

[random patrol]

I don't rem what leggos necro feral runs atm

feel like the dk is def the target though

[stray sigil]

can feel shitty ig for the hunter if he plays the shield pvp talent

and he plays surv

but idk dk def dies a lot faster than warrior

[random patrol]

that is true, fury is super tanky atm

[woeful spade]

Draught

Who are general kill targets tho?

Assa or Affli

[random patrol]

I would go assa until he uses his cloak then swap aff

got to rem to kick drain life when lock is low

[stray sigil]

sit aff if the assa rando trinkets something

u can kill him in a stun

[woeful spade]

So DK = always kill?

[random patrol]

yes

[woeful spade]

What about with spriest

[random patrol]

especially if it's warrior dk

[stray sigil]

like dk spriest?

[woeful spade]

yea

[stray sigil]

id still do dk but not sure

sp seems kinda bait most of em now play nf

so much shit u have to go thru

[woeful spade]

Okay how about some other comps, there's so much comp diversity atm, not sure what to go

[stray sigil]

turbo i think ppl do warrior but requires good cross so maybe just go enh and root the warrior on gos so no intervene

jungle still thnik going feral is better

no idea about lsd stuff looks unwinnable

they just kill pets in 2 globals

dh boomy u go boomy

ret war same thing as turbo since idk how good u are at crossing just go ret

[woeful spade]

Ele aff?

[viscid remnant]

ele aff is lsd

[livid wasp]

wotlk servers so good cant even log in

[grand mesa]

AhhhHHHHhhhhhhh

[stray sigil]

krek ?

[grand mesa]

lmao

[stray sigil]

its kidna earely for krek puzzle

[grand mesa]

u know what i realized fuji

rdruids are nuts

my buddy has been healing 3s for funsies

and he's asking me questions

like "what do u do in this situation"

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

and everytime i have to be like man idk i'm a druid that's not a problem

he's an hpal

[woeful spade]

Yeah sorry queing right now so was skimming

[stray sigil]

well hpal and rdru dont play the same way whatsoever either

[grand mesa]

nope

thats what i told him

[stray sigil]

hpal is all about rotating cds

[grand mesa]

i have no clue how to answer how he can play close but not get caught in CC

my 40 yard away brain can't even comprehend that

[viscid remnant]

your friend made a traj choice in picking hpal as first healer this season

tell him to hug pillar XD

[grand mesa]

that's honestly what i told him

[stray sigil]

also please help uir mans

and put markers on urselves

i hear him say i cant see u

20x a game

every game

LOL

[grand mesa]

tbh

even with markers

u can't fucking see people

[stray sigil]

idk not having markers is ver ydoomed

[grand mesa]

that's why i made my WA

which has 400 views on wago now tyvm

[stray sigil]

wa for what

[grand mesa]

ok 331

lmao

there's no good way via addons or anything else to resize markers

so i made a halfass solution of attaching giant fucking markers to people's friendly nameplates

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

clearly 11 other people thought it was good cause they isntalled it ok

[stray sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-hmm-pepe-the-frog-thinking-thoughts-gif-17897173

[grand mesa]

i hate playing dps i'm healing tn

lmao

[viscid remnant]

ye idk playing dps is pretty sussy for me

[grand mesa]

just not comfy with it after so many healing games

healing is slow motion and i can see everything. melee is so fast and i have no clue what's going on behind me lol

maybe with more games it slows down

2s is ok 3s is chaotic

[viscid remnant]

3s chaotic cuz playing cleave into cleave

[grand mesa]

bro

cleave into cleave

[viscid remnant]

press the whole spell book untill something dies

[grand mesa]

with pets everywhere

maybe i try feral

[viscid remnant]

[grand mesa]

i have extensive feral aff experience it's pretty much the same right

@viscid remnant this hp does feel p good tho

[viscid remnant]

Big

More than my priest

[grand mesa]

well it's 2x 2hands

so it's kinda cheating

[viscid remnant]

Cheater with 2 2handr

Yep

[grand mesa]

look at that, a few 2s queue sessions and now we're on the same wavelength

[viscid remnant]

Iam like 97k unbuff i think

https://tenor.com/view/brain-same-wavelength-twins-thinking-cosmic-energy-gif-15106217

[stray sigil]

[viscid remnant]

294 ilvl

U said when we are 290 we play

XD

[stray sigil]

log in then

[viscid remnant]

Pooping

[stray sigil]

puzzleclap is online

kitty time ?

[grand mesa]

i can play for a bit i think

kid's sick so been spending all afternoon with her

[woeful spade]

What about Rets?

And hunters

KT?

[stray sigil]

hunters aids

but can kill them

ret dies also

poop faster @viscid remnant

push it

[grand mesa]

pinch it lets go david

[stray sigil]

time ismoni

[woeful spade]

So what do you go against cupid?

[stray sigil]

ret prob

[grand mesa]

fuji ur gonna want banner aren't u

[stray sigil]

cupid is kinda hard for jungle ngl

idc u do u

[grand mesa]

im disliking spear in 3s

[stray sigil]

ye its bad when u miss em

[grand mesa]

and when i do hit them

fade

vanish

[stray sigil]

cloak

bop

[grand mesa]

it's actually alittle harder to hit than i realized

[stray sigil]

feign

[grand mesa]

if they're moving u kinda have to lead it

if they're moving and u drop it on the center of them it can miss

i guess the animation windup or something before it latches

[stray sigil]

think the problem is ur kinda just send it

need to slow/stun em prob

to secure it

[grand mesa]

yeah i usually pair with stormbolt

not sure what to do with impending victory

snaring them works

or i conq banner and hulk smash

[woeful spade]

RET WAR

which one

[grand mesa]

@stray sigil what'll take longer

david's shit

or this queue to pop

[stray sigil]

idk by the looks of it

he fell in the toilet

[viscid remnant]

ilog

okay dud its 11pm i was planning to poop then shower then go to bed

i guess plans changed

[grand mesa]

hahaha

[viscid remnant]

inv just putting on underwear

[grand mesa]

ok kitty cleave is giga

[livid wasp]

why is eu horde so bad at random bgs

[random patrol]

dat ms though

[livid wasp]

brain gets all tangled up

playing wotlk and retail feral

[woeful spade]

So... When to use Soothe exactly?

[mild badge]

When big warrior angry

[livid wasp]

to get rid of mass dispel

adsdas

spell reflect*

[mild badge]

That works? Lol

[viscid remnant]

ye u press on reflect and it removes it nothing happens to u

[mild badge]

Quite the cheese

Nl is much better as I have found out

I think I do more damage in my burst nl than I do with convoke

[grand mesa]

i don't think soothe is like

worth

on fury

they get it back

[woeful spade]

What do you mean exactly? Because warrior is always big and red

[mild badge]

He gets extra angry

You should be able to see the enrage as dispelable

[stone breach]

Soothing warriors is not worth a global except to eat spell reflect, yeah

[mild badge]

Sometimes I soothe them when I see them enraged going to town on my teammate

[stone breach]

Spend your global on root instead

[grand mesa]

^

[mild badge]

^

Root waaay better

[woeful spade]

Aren't we going war most time tho?

Like turbo

[stone breach]

Give them the ol' cyclone -> cancel -> soothe

Even if warrior is the kill target, you CC them between goes

Unless you're mid-go, he is more scary than you

[mild badge]

Can’t heal someone in a clone ^^

[grand mesa]

my sooth bind is annoying so i uhhh moonfire

but if i didn't have an inconveient bind i'd soothe the reflect always

lol

[mild badge]

My soothe is R

[grand mesa]

that's such a good button for something so situational

[stone breach]

R is a prime keybind wtf

[grand mesa]

r is my overgrowth

[mild badge]

That’s my hunter dispel

That’s why

[grand mesa]

/ spender in other specs

like surge/bite

[stone breach]

R is aoe spender

Or dispel for healers

[mild badge]

I agree

It is rather a niche spell for a good keybind

But wtf do I put there instead?

Party Speed thingy maybe

Entangling roots it is settled

[haughty compass]

My binds are dumb, but I’ve had them for like 14 years. can’t change

[lime light]

everyone forgot about Dr EP

[stone breach]

🙏

[grand mesa]

🙏

[viscid remnant]

🙏

[lime light]

🙏🏿

[woeful spade]

Does hunter ever run not dispel trap?

Whatever it's called

[viscid remnant]

icetrap or whatev

[woeful spade]

yea

[stray sigil]

diamond ?

[woeful spade]

Yeah

[stray sigil]

surv only

[woeful spade]

When though?

[stray sigil]

mayb vs sp or dh

[woeful spade]

It was WLS

Lock just dispels trap everytime no?

Also, Spriest or boomy?

[stray sigil]

na u can

mark and root

and pray

[woeful spade]

Is that REALLY better though...?

[elfin radish]

several ferals running circle now? is it cause they run dot cleave or something with sp/affli or so?

[stray sigil]

they might have qd into doubler melee rdrus

[woeful spade]

Ele demo, what do I do?

[stray sigil]

u cry

[random patrol]

what is the best healer in 3s atm?

well for boomy dh

[stray sigil]

rsham

[random patrol]

kk

[elfin radish]

rsham vs caster cleave mw vs melee cleave

[random patrol]

prob easier to find an rsham vs a mw

[haughty compass]

Who’s trying to ele with my demo?

We bang

[stone breach]

Not a feral so I can't help a ton with anything offensive, but:

Cyclone or root tyrant
Cyclone ascendance
Cyclone demo if you see them trying to setup for tyrant

[grand mesa]

Ele lock 😤

[stone breach]

Ele is more dangerous than you outside your CDs

Demo is whatever, but if you let them cast between goes their goes are bigger

[woeful spade]

Who to kill

[haughty compass]

If you kick a tyrant cast, then roar, then clone it’s pretty much done. Just a lot of disruption to deal with there

[stone breach]

Ele is kinda paper outside astral shift aren't they?

[stray sigil]

goping ele does nothing to their dmg

and meanwhile

the lock just freecasting

[stone breach]

I guess I'm thinking goes into Ele, sit demo between

Or just pillar between tbh

Why fight into casters

[stray sigil]

cuz hes playing jungle

with 2 melee specs

[stone breach]

That's usually a losing play outside CDs

But idk jungle

[haughty compass]

Yea jungle kinda pumps lock

[grand mesa]

Training an ele does nothing to stop their damage

It’s so ducking annoying

[haughty compass]

The variance of ele dps. I’ve seen some do like 10k the whole game

And then my buddy does 4K

[grand mesa]

Are flame shocks being dispelled u know

[edgy shale]

i thought ele has dispel protection

[grand mesa]

Yeah

It’s called playing with an afflock

😂

[edgy shale]

i mean like a pvp talent that does sometin if u dispel

[haughty compass]

Well flame shock has a knock up

[grand mesa]

The knock up doesn’t do much

[haughty compass]

And dmg if you dispel

[grand mesa]

It’s never bothered me much

[haughty compass]

Demo is the dream

Aff is lame and uncool

[grand mesa]

I didn’t even know it had a damage component

[haughty compass]

Beta spec

[grand mesa]

Until someone mentioned it last night

[stone breach]

I'm not looking forward to DFlight boomy PvP. Having to play with aff lock to be viable is very lame

[haughty compass]

Why is that?

[stone breach]

30% starsurge dam hidden behind dot uptime

[haughty compass]

Lol

[grand mesa]

I mean

They shifted the double dip on mastery out of cq

Ca

Into normal surges

That’s good I guess

[stone breach]

I can't be dispelled out of CA

[haughty compass]

If evoker is shitty, I’ll be a demo lock tbh.

Summon a pit lord

Vibe

[grand mesa]

I’m sure this shocks no one

But I’ve made the tough decision

To play

Resto druid

[haughty compass]

We bang

[grand mesa]

Ya

[haughty compass]

I’ll prob level my Druid too, but ive been over Druid forever

[grand mesa]

If alts are easy I might maintain one dps

Like fury warrior or soemtbing

[edgy shale]

bring insect swarm back

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

Displacer beast and maybe symbiosis

Calling it

[random patrol]

instant speed stellar flare

[stray sigil]

good krek

[grand mesa]

Look if rsham can get lightning lasso sometbing that just sounds ridiculous

Anything is possible

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

I need to look at warrior talent tree now that I am a warrior expert again and know if the tree will be good or bad

[stray sigil]

ye

[haughty compass]

Any shit Alts need conq? I’m bored

We do arcane + your shit alt

[safe heart]

My sp is bis
Obv not shit alt ok

[haughty compass]

Male light forged Draenei reporting for duty

[safe heart]

As much as I wanna play feral, if I consistently never have a jungle team and I find an sp team, I may just hard swap

[haughty compass]

I feel you man.

[safe heart]

Not having a team is like the most miserable thing

[haughty compass]

I love my Druid. Played that character for a lot of my life... but I’m just over the treatment of the spec

[haughty compass]

You know a good priest?

I can gear BM

[safe heart]

I know good priests yes, I don't know good priests who are willing to play jungle

[stone breach]

Feral is so good right now though

[safe heart]

Yeah feral is definitely good

It's not that feral is bad

[stone breach]

You can play FMP, kitty cleave, jungle with any spec of hunter

[haughty compass]

Kyrian feral is still the most fun to me idk

[safe heart]

I mean I guess man

[stray sigil]

fmp lol

[safe heart]

I've had negative success with fmp

[stray sigil]

ye idk about that one

[safe heart]

Kitty is legit the only other feral comp I'd consider valid

[stray sigil]

its kitty or jungle

[haughty compass]

You gotta be really knowledgeable of the game to play fmp

And in sync

[stray sigil]

na the comp is terrible atm lol

[stone breach]

FMP may only shine if you're playing a very good mage

[haughty compass]

I think kitty is bis

[stone breach]

Players at high ratings are playing FMP

[stray sigil]

who

[safe heart]

Ok

[stray sigil]

who is

[haughty compass]

Definitely not Fuji

That washed mfer

[stray sigil]

true but i dont know a single good feral on na playing that

lol

[safe heart]

If 3 r1 players are playing a meme comp, that holds almost no water with ne

[stray sigil]

eu either

[haughty compass]

Marv played arcane fmp at one pt with numbing the god

[stone breach]

My source is skill-capped, they had some footage, I didn't look at names

[stray sigil]

formy was a fmp player

[safe heart]

Like idc if a comp is "viable"

[stray sigil]

uknow what he plays

[safe heart]

I want consistent success

[stray sigil]

ol

[stray sigil]

is it this ssn footage

or s1 footage

lol

[stone breach]

This season

[haughty compass]

Yea Marv and numbing

Cvark did too

But Fuji gonna freak out in a sec

[stray sigil]

cvark

LUL

[haughty compass]

See

[stray sigil]

dude just leeches qs

witrh 2 rank 1s

hardly what i call ppl playing fmp

[safe heart]

But yeah feral is deff good but no one wants to q jungle

So it's like I'm playing lfg Sim at 2k

[stray sigil]

like i saw glen and kubzy playing feral arcane at low cr

[haughty compass]

“Hardly what I call playing fmp”

[stray sigil]

means nothing

[haughty compass]

Bro what

Sometimes you are so sus

[stray sigil]

he said people

its 1 dude

playing it cuz he spams their chat

for qs

? ? ?

[haughty compass]

There are like 3 arcane mages

Lmao

[safe heart]

All I'm saying is that if fmp was even kinda good, you'd run into it every 50 queues or so

[haughty compass]

2 of them have played fmp high up

[stray sigil]

numbing plays arcane ww

not a fmp player

[safe heart]

I play vs fmp like once a season lmao

[haughty compass]

Ok I can’t

Jfc

[stray sigil]

i mean ill call bs when it is bs lol

[safe heart]

Idc if they played it at 3k or 1k, ppl don't play it because generally it just doesn't work

[haughty compass]

Fuji knows all

[stray sigil]

vultz plays outlaw arcane

[stone breach]

Idk Feral feels kinda OP to me right now

[stray sigil]

numbing arcane ww

[stone breach]

Has all expansion

[safe heart]

Dude

[stray sigil]

bit funny

comign from a boomy atm

lol

[safe heart]

I'm not saying feral is remotely bad

[stray sigil]

when u can play dh boomy

to glad

without a brain

[safe heart]

I'm saying no one will queue the good feral comp

[haughty compass]

Aucat wants some homies

[safe heart]

So ferals are sitting fucked

[haughty compass]

Is what he’s saying

[stone breach]

I have literally never queued boomy+DH

[stray sigil]

i mean i disgaree with saying feral is op

thats kinda cooked

[haughty compass]

I saw big pharma run demo feral mw at 2.8 last season

[stone breach]

I've queued boomy+FDK, boomy UHDK, Boomy+Arms and Boomy+Fury

[haughty compass]

But Fuji gonna freak out again

[stray sigil]

axtin got r1 playing sp feral rdru

not like it means it was a super good comp

look at ladder

its the same 4 ferals

and pedostonia

if it was an op class

ud have random fotm rerollers

[safe heart]

Yeah no one is fotm rolling feral

[haughty compass]

I’ll always subscribe to the idea that if you play with people you like and are willing to learn you can hit good ratings

[safe heart]

Yeah but that's like the cop out answer

[stone breach]

I don't think feral is piss easy, I think it's strong

[stray sigil]

true to an extent

but just cuz u like feral mage doesnt mean u wil lget r1 playing it

[stone breach]

If you have a paste eater you want to carry to whatever rating, you don't make them play feral

[haughty compass]

But glad to rank 1 is diff, I can’t speak on that

[safe heart]

I want to queue and be consistently successful with tried and true comps

[stray sigil]

this ssn is over its a filler ssn

just q with random ppl

and call it a day

doesnt matter

[safe heart]

I don't want to queue a comp where it's like "hopefully they fuck up and die"

[haughty compass]

I ain’t getting rank 1 playing shit lmao

[stone breach]

Isn't that every comp ever?

[stray sigil]

thats lsd

[haughty compass]

You put me with ssds and gekz I ain’t getting it

[safe heart]

No

Jungle is good game to game to game

[stone breach]

What comp doesn't rely on opponent mistakes?

[safe heart]

Ret war

[stray sigil]

lsd ret war

[stone breach]

How does ret warrior not require mistakes?

No ret pally should ever touch you unless you're fucking up

[stray sigil]

wat

he can touch 3 ppl

u cant prevent a ret from ever touching u

thats also very fried

its not 1v1

[edgy shale]

shut up fenji ur noob

[grand mesa]

Kittycleave is fun fully endorse

[safe heart]

I don't like kitty cleave but I respect it

[haughty compass]

I really think kitty cleave is bis feral comp

[safe heart]

Look all I can say about fmp is that I've played it before , different ppl and it's never felt like we could consistently win

Kitty cleave is just fury war carry imo but

Idk

[stray sigil]

i mean ye

but thats how most comps work now

[safe heart]

If I had a kitty team I'd queue it up

[stray sigil]

u have 1 guy who supports the other guy that does the most dmg

rmp

ret war

jungle

[safe heart]

Yeah its fine

[stray sigil]

kitty

[safe heart]

I do think kitty works tho

[stray sigil]

turbo

its alll the same

[safe heart]

Like kitty can win and you don't have to hope

[stray sigil]

dh boomy

[grand mesa]

I despise dh boomy

[safe heart]

Well my point there is that I feel no synergy with fury

I feel like I'm third wheeling

[stone breach]

❓

[grand mesa]

Dislike

[stone breach]

How come

[grand mesa]

Clones for days

[stone breach]

Too damp?

[grand mesa]

Damp

[stray sigil]

dh boomy is the most damp comp in the game atm

for sure

i dont even think lsd is as damp

[grand mesa]

They just run and peel and suddenly their 3mins are back

Lsd is ret war the ranged version lmao

Just so much damage all the time

[stray sigil]

u can kinda damp on ret war but

dh boomy is just

[haughty compass]

DH moonkin is not my favorite

[stray sigil]

the most damp shit

maybe for casters its different

but melees cant go dh

[haughty compass]

I ran DH moonkin with puzzle and went back feral the next day

[stray sigil]

and booym never dies untuil late damp

[grand mesa]

I think the only 3s comp I’ve really vibed with so far is kitty

[stone breach]

FDK+Boomy+Disc is the true vibe

[grand mesa]

Even ret war I didn’t care for much

[haughty compass]

Kitty as the feral is the most fun I’ve ever had in 3s

[grand mesa]

And I don’t think I’ve healed a real comp yet

[haughty compass]

Since og tbc

[grand mesa]

On my rdru

[haughty compass]

Demo dk is pretty real tbh

[grand mesa]

Oh we did queue that

Ye that was real

That felt good

[haughty compass]

We have 1950 gear now, vs 1600 gear too

[crystal forge]

I kiss boys

[haughty compass]

We aren’t the same glyph

I’m old and shit

Rank 1 duelist

[crystal forge]

https://tenor.com/view/madden-dancing-says-the-guy-who-jerks-off-to-cartoons-gif-17750398

[grand mesa]

Pykan

You are the number 1 mechagon gnome lock

Don’t sell yourself short

[haughty compass]

My buddy vad is like that

[stray sigil]

fuck gekz gimme agony lol

[haughty compass]

He just tells me what to do

[stray sigil]

ssds agony freest rank1

[grand mesa]

Vad is quite good

[haughty compass]

He’s a rank 1 dk that never got the team mates i swear

If we did demo rdu dk a few sessions a week, we’d climb.

[grand mesa]

Def

[safe heart]

Not having teammates is like 80% of the challenge of pvp I swear

[haughty compass]

Tbh I already feel 10x better than I was last week

[haughty compass]

Def

[grand mesa]

I think playing a lot of high 2s

Is good for working out kinks

I think just going into the meat grinder in 3s is just button mashing idk

Like on a new toon

But idk

[haughty compass]

Me and vad have always just done 2s to gear our chars because we can never find a 3rd. We quit at 2.1 and do Mordor alt stuff

[safe heart]

Sp enhance and feral feel legit just cranking 3s

Some classes suck inn2s

[haughty compass]

Would love a 3rd consistent healer

[grand mesa]

Don’t u play at weird times or am I wrong

Vad is day gamer no?

[haughty compass]

Yea

[grand mesa]

I think that’s probably part of ur problem imo

[safe heart]

I wonder if it's nice being ret war and not knowing that healers are hard to get

[grand mesa]

I’d heal for you guys if it was night gaming

Would set aside a few nights

[haughty compass]

Yea He used to

[grand mesa]

Day gaming is rough

[haughty compass]

Yea

[grand mesa]

I just sneak into a sesh when I think there’s a window lol

But I can never count on it

[haughty compass]

Same

[grand mesa]

Like fuji and David were all on so we did kitty for an hour and a half

[haughty compass]

I’ll get 2.1 this week on lock and then see if we can organize a few push sessions

[grand mesa]

Sure

My alt rdru is unironically higher MMR than my main druid rn in 3s

[haughty compass]

I’ll move laptop to garage and voice etc

[grand mesa]

Jesus Christ ur srs

[haughty compass]

I’ll send you feet pics to keep you happy

Gotta hang onto healers

[grand mesa]

Haha I’m flexible if it’s nights I’ll open up any night u guys want. 9pm-1am est every night I’m looking to do something usually at my computer

[stone breach]

[grand mesa]

Whether it’s wow YouTube twitch or rubbing one out

👍

[stray sigil]

[haughty compass]

But the dk is legit.

I’ve been learning from gelu on his lock too he runs that comp

[grand mesa]

I mean what

[stray sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-hmm-pepe-the-frog-thinking-thoughts-gif-17897173

[safe heart]

Puzzlebox is on at enji hours

[stray sigil]

i kidna wanna do a enh

but then i cant do 2s

[grand mesa]

Feral enhance or enhance ret right

[safe heart]

2s are sus

[grand mesa]

Honestly

Just going deep mordor 3s

Is way better than any 2s Shit imo

Even like a decent 2s class

[haughty compass]

Trash 3s is fun

[edgy shale]

when does mordor stop being mordor?

[grand mesa]

U just end up hitting the wall where gear matters so fast then it becomes 50-50 shit

For small cq

[grand mesa]

Anyone I can easily beat is Mordor. Anyone I can’t beat are tryhard and shouldn’t be in this bracket

[edgy shale]

thjat means mordor is up to like 3k for me

[grand mesa]

Idk like all else is relative

I’d say in 2s this season they probably stop playing like complete dummies around 1800 or so

[stray sigil]

[safe heart]

Mordor is usually whatever a person's max cr is -200 or so

[haughty compass]

Im just one of those players where

I can beat anyone sometimes, like I’m on it

That’s about 20% of the time

[safe heart]

Cr-200 = morder

[haughty compass]

The other 80% I just forget my rotation or I overlap or I chase

[stray sigil]

2800 is morder

[grand mesa]

Ya that jives with me

On main 2s 1900 teams would be free

Like wouldn’t expect to lose at all unless super random

[safe heart]

Yeah exactly

I have fake 2.7xp but I'd still say 2.4 games are hard

And rn I can't even break 2.1

[grand mesa]

I don’t even know what to call myself cause rating swings so wildly

Season to season

Like I got 2.4 in s2

Give asterisk

Huge asterisk

Got it again s3 but like 3 days before season ended

No shot this season

I think if just say I’m like a duelist at 2s? Can guarantee get it no matter what

Idk about elite

Going by xp is weird too cause it requires so much context

[safe heart]

I think I can get elite in 3s for sure but I'll probably lose my team again at 2349 again and tank to 2.1

[grand mesa]

Which season. Do you get the rating super late

[safe heart]

I got 2.7 the last day of s3

[stone breach]

Fake 2.6k exp here. Comparing exp and inflation across seasons or even weeks is a fools errand

2.1 will be much easier 2 weeks from now than today.

And that's basically always true

[grand mesa]

I wonder if blizz is gonna turn the knob on inflation and add cq boxes

Or DF is so close fuck it

[safe heart]

Maybe it's harder now

[grand mesa]

Yeah that’s why xp is so weird

[safe heart]

I haven't been in the game long but it seems like whatever season it isn't currently was always harder than the current one
Unless it's s2

[lavish pagoda]

It would be cool if blizzard normalized rating

[grand mesa]

As someone who has never gotten glad prob never will. I don’t even give a shit when I see glad mounts anymore across my screen

Like they’re not these invincible players

[haughty compass]

I WILL BE 2.4 MECHAGNOME DEMO

[lavish pagoda]

Ya maybe not

[safe heart]

Yeah I mean I think there's very few r1 players who are just playing on a different plane of existence than us

[grand mesa]

Doesn’t the ELO system hinge on some level of inflation

[stone breach]

This would not be a good idea and blizz's failed attempts at this in the past have done a lot more damage than good.

It's usually led to players getting 3k+ week 1 then sitting rating forever

[safe heart]

Like if anything they just access to the best players

[grand mesa]

Or else you just have to win streak way above like 60%

[haughty compass]

A lot of the rank 1 players have more games in 1 season than I have lifetime

and im a vanilla player

[safe heart]

If you can pull ssds or axtin or gekz or aeghis whatever

Like it's not even really fair

[grand mesa]

I mean tbh I think this is where pve incentives for arena again

The ladder would be popping off

Like s1

Like how tho

[safe heart]

Need pve'rs to farm

[grand mesa]

Game is becoming even more complex soon with so many new abilities

[haughty compass]

honestly, make healers less powerful

that sounds mean

[grand mesa]

?????

[haughty compass]

but dps cds matter too much

because one easy heal tops

[grand mesa]

It’s chicken or egg

If the damage was taken out of CDs and more sustained

[haughty compass]

try fighting a healer in a bg

without dampening

[grand mesa]

Then healers wouldn’t need to top

Over and over again

I have to heal 3 full healthbars on some WW goes

He died 3 times over

Lmao

[haughty compass]

yea cds are too powerufl

because passive healing is too strong

but yea, chicken and egg

[stone breach]

Increase HP pools by a lot like 2-3x, 50% damp from the go

Topping someone should take time

Killing someone should take time

[haughty compass]

there are so many things wrong with wow pvp

a rogue being able to just vanish and top himself

is insane

[grand mesa]

That’s the problem imo

[stone breach]

I feel like mega-giga-dam seasons are very pve friendly

Pve players know how to do dam

[haughty compass]

im too smol brain for this conversation tbh

[grand mesa]

You know it’s gotten bad when we need pve style WAs. But on top of that when we discussed where I went wrong

I say I chose the wrong gcd

Yeah

[haughty compass]

get rid of upgrading gear too

flat conq gear

[stone breach]

Dflight will do this

[haughty compass]

give different rewards for various rating check pts

[grand mesa]

I sus this so far

[stone breach]

There's a pvp crafted set that's decent, an honor set that's nearly as good as conq and a conquest set

[grand mesa]

I’m worried it goes back to MOP style shit

[haughty compass]

"next expac will fix it"

[stone breach]

It's very MoP-like

[haughty compass]

LMAO

[grand mesa]

Where u ding max level

[haughty compass]

always

[grand mesa]

And then u live

In BGs

All weekend

Getting shit on

The start of every season

[haughty compass]

I have more gear on my lock than my main druid

and ive been lock for less than 2 weeks

so the gear gridn isnt that bad, its the power gap

[grand mesa]

I think mid season alts might feel worse tbh than currently

You’re gonna fight full duelist gear

At any rating

Mid season fresh alt

You don’t see that rn

If u go mordor enough

[stone breach]

I worry that making PvP not have a gear grind will kill participation though. Casual players just want to see the gear number go up

[haughty compass]

make raids and pvp easier, the game will explode

[grand mesa]

Look at this season lmao

[haughty compass]

guaranteed

[grand mesa]

No one wants to fight afflock

Or fury warrior based shit

No one wants to heal that shit either

[haughty compass]

Imagine all 4 covs available at start

[grand mesa]

There is a huge movement that we’ve gone too far and mythic raiding has gotten too hard lately

[haughty compass]

if that happened SL is a good expac

[grand mesa]

Sepulcher was a fucking nightmare

[haughty compass]

I'd be just as happy if rating gave me the coolest LOOKING set vs the best set

[grand mesa]

Imagine if r1 gave challenge mode esque skins

And that’s it

[haughty compass]

that gave me an erection

[grand mesa]

And gear was way flatter

Or non existent

[haughty compass]

yea time gated conq is fine

get rid of the fucking vault

[grand mesa]

They should really lean into the pvp ilvl upscale

[haughty compass]

cosmetic rewards is the future

[grand mesa]

So we don’t have to follow the pve rulesset

Of 26-30ilvls per tier

[haughty compass]

based

I am the number 1 glyph simp in this discord, come at me

[grand mesa]

Pykan is guaranteed bound for title btw

He’s gonna be one of 4 players

Playing the most off meta shit

For shuffle

[haughty compass]

yep

[grand mesa]

Tbh

I think they’re doing fine lately I just don’t think they have strong pvp devs

Or devs who can actually advocate for the game mode

[haughty compass]

Honestly my success rate in solo shuffle tells me I need to try harder in rated

I'm legit good at solo shuffle

[grand mesa]

They’re killing it for the expac and pve side of features

But it’s also a pve game so

[stone breach]

Not to name and shame, but I often feel like Holinka has a very different set of design goals for PvP than any high-end-arena-focused player would want

[grand mesa]

I’ve never liked holinka

[stone breach]

I'd love to see the folks who ran GCDtv be the pvp devs

[grand mesa]

Since he came on board in MOP

[stone breach]

Give me Healingstat designed PvP

[haughty compass]

305 demo puzzle

[grand mesa]

You guys ever go on big nostalgia trips.

Watching old cs 1.5 1.6 frag movies lol

these were teh days man

[edgy shale]

i definitely do sometimes. Like ill watch old dota montages or something. I feel slightly less nostalgia for shit tho since some forms of media have been weaponizing it

[grand mesa]

that was my prime

old music yeah

early 2000s punk rock

i just tried to nostalgia trip the skrillex/dubstep era

but uhh

not as good as i remembered

lol

u go back in time bro

yeah

i read some cheesy youtube comment just now that hit kinda hard but it was like "we don't look for old music, we look for old memories"

and i was all like

reckful 3 and that remix of stereohands

p iconic

[edgy shale]

now im sad cuz u reminded me of reckful

[haughty compass]

[tiny oar]

Reckful 3 slapped so fucking hard RIP

[grand mesa]

it's what got me to play wow again after quitting vanilla

someone in rift i pvp'd with told me to watch it

[tiny oar]

Oh shit u played rift too?