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Yep
all blizz has to do is make gear not matter in arenas
competitive wow fixed
game wont be dead anymore
I bet if they give it back people will complaint again that this is an rpg they want gesr to grind for
you could lvl an alt and soon play with it
No I agree with you
thats for pvers
I want to spend more of my time doing the content I want to do and less time preparing for it
But a lot of folks didn’t feel that way
Maybe 3 expacs of modern wow formula has burned everyone the fuck out tho and no gear arena will be universally well received
You were just complaining about having nothing to do when you got geared lol
Yea
Ppl that hated it have braindmg
I’m a pve grinder bar filler that’s trying to reform myself into a functional human ok
I used to say I miss artifact power cause I would never miss an AP world quest for months and thought it was fun
Hahahahhaa
I can barely notice when i have 2% haste more or less but i can notice when i am outgeared every game
The most brain damage
Go play overwatch or something
No
You got fully geared in like 2 weeks
From a fresh account
But i face ppl with duelist gear
Yea idk I just don’t agree
I think no difference in ilvl for conq gear will probably fix a lot tho
1400 just as geared as 2100
Yes
The afk bear aff player gimme a break
Ok but i
Outplay enemy
The entire game
And im dying through cds
Because he has more gear
Not a fun experience
Wow has never been about skill lol
....
I mean I kinda agree with pykan too
Cause if you take gear out of the equation
The next in line of cope is comp/class
Ok so make it
Less meaningful
Like itwas
In legion
??
Idk
Its really demotivating
Queuing into ppl with more gear
U start with disadvantage
You outplay a few times but doesnt matter
Their numbers just bigger
I actually think joining late will feel way worse in DF in some ways
Not because of skill
Cause instead of doing late season mordor rating at like 1400 and fighting rival geared players
I played last season super late and still got duelist
If i for example
Fleshyc a stormbolt
I shouldnt die through
I outplayed the enemy
But it doesnt matter
I think that’s also partly a fury warrior thing
I mean if we talk about the insane shadowlands burst and crit modifier that’s a different story
Without a gear grind this game will die, I guarantee
No idea
I suspect even if the mode was better participation was worse
Cause wow players need carrots
Hahaha
Played a lot of random shit on mordor
I think people look at half the story too tbh
Because i was new
For every situation where they got our geared and nothing they can do
They probably won a game they shouldn’t have won cause they had more gear 😂😂😂
I put in more time I get to be more powerful
That’s how this game has always worked
Haha see for me pykan
That used to be the high point for me
But increasingly as time went on. The early season gearing up phase in arena m+ or raid whatever has become my least favorite and tedious part
Either that, or give me really cool looking gear that is hard to get
I just wanted to die inside thinking about having to farm IQD again for raid
Is it gonna drop in 3 DOS runs again or 40
If they remove that grind, I won’t play
I think you’re not alone. I actually think ur the majority
100%
Even tho that’s precisely what they’ve been screaming about in SL
Too much external borrowed power systems
They’re all gone
Now it’s literally just raid m+ arena and ivl going up
Shadowlands is fine, I liked it. Idc what people say
Just wish you could swap covs easier
Form the start
It became better for me agyer 9.1.5
After*
9.0 sucked ass but tell me a time where a X.0 was good
Idk i liked it. It was cool to feel allegiance to a cov
But once they meta started to figure itself out
It got lame
They should have let you swap when u hit 40
U can be more powerful
After the weekly 2 renown time gate
Yea sure. Again, I started last season like 3 months late and still hit duelist
i mean
u can do that
its just cancer
to face against ppl with more gear
im not saying u cant win
im saying its cancer
ya, you just gotta suffer your low rating Qs til u get all your gear and then you grind rating to upgrade it
honestly. i kinda like these 700 mmr Qs
no brainpower required, no tryharding, just fools doing target dummy hits in the middle of the arena til they die
Shadowlands from 9.0 - 9.2.5 might be one of the greatest progressions of bad to good of all expacs
Can’t think of an expac that started as bad and ended pretty good
Bfa was shit throughout, tho the last patch I liked
Bc it was different
Legion was great after first patch for PvP
But I always expected legion to turn out great based on the potential, shadowlands I figured was going to be shit throughout bc of the cov system tbh
eh idk imean
shadowlands is still not that good
but tbf the only major issues is balancing not the expansion itself
like covs now are pretty fine yeah
Well I guess my team isn’t logging in 😦
Honestly yea. They removed the bullshit blocks on covenant swapping and conduit energy then added catch up mechanics that’s about it.
😦
doesnt work like that
feral ms isnt removed by shifting or freedoms @lime light
it removes the slow portion of it
keeps the ms
Hey everyone! When do you use mark of the wild in arena? And is it dispelable?
Ok, do you mean against like a shaman that purges the shit out of everything?
Yea
Ah ok
@stray sigil feels like u are lying to ep
show
no u show
how the fuck did dh a spec that's existed for all of 15 seconds get a more interesting innovative tree than fucking druids???
guilty is losing it

Lol
braindamaged tank players
Y'all think NF prot pally moonkin disc priest can 1 shot?
I’ve seen mmarkers melt an entire team with summer + conq banner
Probably could be similar with summer and DA
u played guardian u sketchy mfer
dont think i forgot
hehehehehe
How do y’all feel about savage roar vs sotf. Worth the trouble? I’m necro
Ion just apologized to Druids and priests on interview
Lmao
I feel so validated 😭
Mostly no but you wouldn't be wrong to play either one
Just remember you are losing big value if you don't maintain the buff
Against certain comps in 2s I like playing SR circle and just try to bang in the opener
it feels like that
next time ill be up to date with gear will be start of df
i think its preference really
but if ur not good at maintaining it dont play it
i like it i play it vs damp shit feels good
I’ve been sticking to solo shuffle. Does that matter?
Bro it’s not that bad fuji just being fuji lmao
Just play and you’ll catch up. It’s literally no different than a mid season alt 😂
na if u like it play it
its a diff playstyle cuz ur like not biting at all compared to very little with soul
but its fine eitgher way
In which case I’m gonna go scratch up a target dummy
come eu boost me
i personally starting to play it mroe cuz i might take it in df if we can get sr and soul
Feral druid RBGs ahahahaha
Took a little break. Peaked at DF talents. Do I retire my feral ? Looks so zzzzzzzzzzzzz
go boomy aff
and go boomy form
and then surprise
"how do you do fellow boomkins"
they are reworking them no copium
Buy legacy, play guardian in RBGs
I did that for m+s
yes i did that in bfa
for m+
lol
@grand mesa
r we saved
soon tm
I saw it live
He specifically said Druids and priests we know. We have stuff for you. You deserve to hear more
Etc etc
LIKE I BEEN SAYING
THEYRE QUIET CAUSE THEYRE WORKING ON IT
Arcane dream new main
I like venruki a lot
Idk
I mean mages are whiney
Ferals are weird and have victim complexes
Lmfao
wrong
And spriests are always the most depressed and suicidal person in any room
I’ve just been a Druid for so long... I keep threatening to reroll

Moonkin aff felt terrible today
was watching ssds glenn farm that shit last night lol
And I am sad
3 hours later “this pug healer won’t heal my fucking pet”
Jungle strong
I hate that gif a lot
Arcane dream
What are you pushing pykan?
So I can be emo at 1600 instead of 1900
Arcane + what
Fuckin tru
tru or tru

Flakes
pykan not a real one
Jesus Christ
I have 1 day played and 2 hours on mage
I gotta practice more before I make my new good friends never want to q with me again
Lmao

We as the boomer community can do better
Well hang on... we’ve gotten games in...
You’ve played with me more than my other pals
Maybe you’re my new wow boy friend
I ship it
And we are budget markers numbing
Not even budget
Dumbing and crayola
too much
Great value markers numbing
u like*
I do he’s awesome
I love numbing

Fuji the biggest Marv simp
I am arcane mage simp... one and the same
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
Lmfao
HOYL RFUIK
there is no way this mans just compared big marv to nubmign
numbing the budget nightsaber whos the budget vultz whos the budget abn
I don’t even know who Marv is
axtin
I like giga missles spec
Why does he have 2 names
his irl name is marvin
Cuz he has 2 druids
Numbing highest rated isn’t he?
My irl name is enji
Arcane
Lmao stop
ye i mean nessper is his boy

Bis
Good at game and life. Truly a model
Why do you hate numbing Fuji
For these young impressionable kids
someone boost me I want at least 1.4k
cuz hes a dampener
in 2s
every ssn plays the same boring shit rdru arcane
pretends hes not dampening every team
Idk it looks fun for the rdu
I'll boost you on my sp
You get to do cool shit
and hes in denial
Puzzle enji Pykan gosh comp when
pykans arcane is so poggers too
do you have an sp on eu
I slap dude
Ok I support you but let’s not get carried away
It’s a KS spec
Play with DH / lock too much
I make the worst pvp spec in game great again
Or maybe I go demo. I was 2.1 demo s1
When demo was bad
I am an off meta idiot, that’s how I’ve always been
I feel so clueless playing feral in solo shuffle
without hunter
feels like there should be cc on the healer all the time but idk if its the case
Current demo is very fun, not as OP especially on meters as aff, but tyrant is strong
they all have 100k+ hp
I think convoke feral is the play in shuffle
I actually agree
1 min goes then 50 seconds of peel
Just cheese someone
david can you carry me on some char tomorrow or are you too high
legendary
Just tank to Mordor for the
queues
Whatev
David did you hit 2.1 yet
I am 672 havent queued since we played

bm wack i can literally do laps around the arena and still maintain a full rotation
This is agreeable
BM is the melee of ranged
No brain gameplay
@grand mesa any weakauraers
For what
I linked it
David I got lots of WAs. Can share a ton that I think is useful 🤗
Ur another arcane enjoyer you don’t scare me
LMAO
yeah.
We have a few arcane enjoyers in here
Bro r u good
he can't see

GIVE LINK
@stray sigil I am betting
As an apology to Druids suffering
We get symbiosis back
👍
THANK U
Idk if I want symbiosis back
Du du du du du
It was a wild era
feral didnt get iceblock lol
we got nova
was a rdru thing
feral getting nova is dog shit lol
but not iceblock
WTF thats op
think we got
deterence back in the day too
from hunters
not positive
either that or was feign
I played with an rdru as frost mage and saw nothing but feral holy priest
or was it hpal too
So I get the symbiosis links mixed up
Yeah
It wasn’t spec specific as the recipient
Their spec
God give me IBF or iceblock or deter lmao
i just want cool stuff idk
hopefully they go into cool shit and not the borign crap we had
i cant get into a 15 on my hunter cuz my main isnt showing up on its rio 
im like 270
Usually idc what ppls mains io is
It's easy to be 3k io on one class and be and an ape dual wielding left hands on another
its funny when people put up a group and its like a 40k hp warrior or some shit and the title is main is 2.1k io
its like....ok?
ur main could be 5k io i still don't wanna group with a 40k hp war

270 surv probably outdps most classes
Fuji has 100k hp and still does 40k hp warrior dps
wtf
++
wdym
And doesn't require brain function to do it
im insane at pve
only if davder heal us
JESUS FUCK UR THE BIGGEST DAVID SIMP
Why does blizzard always make classes that are too easy to be good at

there is no "Hard" class
lmao
I am a disciple of el patron and davder.
all classes are easy
LOL
fr fr
I mean
on god ongod
Does a surv hunter or destro lock not just do the most damage for no reason
thats not a "this class is easy" issue thats a tuning problem
feral is literally 4 buttons
Usually it's an overbuffed ability (wildfire bomb) or feedback loop that is too strong (RoF + ROC + 4pc infernal) that devolves gameplay to 1 button spam
survival is 3
Yeah but if I have 4 buttons and do 50% of your damage
Feral has 1 button
It's easier for a surv
Oh word
Surv is 4 right
Wildfire bomb
Kill command
Carve
Serpent sting
?
why r u even comparing an ST rotation to an aoe rotation
he said buttons
not that feral's aoe rotation is hard at fucking all
i said buttons
ok im just saying ur kinda comparing apples n oranges here
im saying there is no hard rotation or ability priority
that was the entire argument
Whenever I look at spriests on wowhead or icy veins my eyes glaze over
Ya surv is overtuned
I would deduct that if your class does 80% more damage for the same effort , it's easier to play it

Surv is both overtuned and piss easy
outlaw too, right?
Feral is also easy?
Yeah feral is easy and does a fraction of the damage
just because a spec/class does less dmg does not mean its harder
LOL
again thats a tuning problem
They’re adding a feature in DF wher eu can hold down a button instead of spam it
there is no correlation to skill levels
Guardian bear thrashers are saved
of a spec
Yes
Well if a surv plays half ass , he's doing more dmg than the feral
Yea, they're replacing AHK finally
Aucat i think you're arguing one point and refusing to see mine
I wonder if it can handle multiple inputs at once
Or else I may just be holding down 1-2-3-4
As like a fury
Lmao
you're arguing a problem with survivals dmg and not its "skill level"

Ur comparing tuning issues to skill level issues
Brew is not spammy
i cant stand that shit
i thought they just had some buttons off GCD
Brew just had a lot of like low CD rotational buttons
yeah
kegger is like 0 cd
but thats mainly what you hit and its not really spammy
Brew could be spamming fillers though, right?
It's just less critical
esp with Cache being their bis trinket for dps
im spinning the entire axe duration
I just see doing more damage for no reason as being easier
I think you guys are saying the same shit just semantics differences
Trev calls it over tuned
not really
You call it easier
At the end of the day one class does way more damage for same effort
I have to push my buttons more perfectly than a surv to compete in damage
feral literally has a 2 button aoe rotation feji lol
wrong

yes but feral is still easy
u can just swipe+PW and ur honestly fine
both have about the same amount of buttons
wrong
thrash is marginal dps upgrade, its good to use but not necessary really
and u can run moc so u don't evn need to proc bt with rake
WRONG

Literally survival in aoe is Bomb > KC > carve feral is swipe > pw > repeat
yes feral has less buttons
I would always call that tuning issue
and does less thats a tuning problem
not a skill level issue
thats what i've been trying to say
pause the 200 dps feral coming through
no
Whats up Fuju
thats @clear pulsar
Surv also has 0% of it's damage tied to CDs while feral is like 20% in a 3min
and its 500
with no cds its all rng based
if u get a red bomb reset then ur popping and fine
but yes surv does have dmg alot of the time
CA just makes it easier for QoL
that sounds dumb
Do you have court ring @crystal forge
it was like a minimal dps inc
LOL
LOL
fuck
About 11% over mechagon set
why is face ignoring me
Eat my ass feji
Last time I checked it was 87 dps for rdruid kitty weaving

i ignored it this time cuz i didnt want to farm it
15%???
It's acting as weapon dps increase, which doesnt matter for resto spells.
Only for melee specs
lmaooo
So for resto it's just buffing autoattacks as it should
whomst
LOOOL

or is it copium
Class combos?
Like races?
isnt there a video
like tauren mages
on it rn
Are you talking about final fantasy
ye
RMP can be all races last I checked
i want more druid races
im already bored of ne
They already confirmed the new ones Feju
where
goblin druid sounds really funny with mechaforms n shit
show me
or vulpera druid with forms based off their lore
Mechagnome druid
fuck that shit
Robot forms
Like transformers
mechagnome could also be cool but goblins are just cooler mechagnomes

Ez hibernate
you never been called cute before Fuji?
Bees are bis
That sounds painful
Yeah literally the cute fat butt bees
I have a wasp from zereth mortis too I like it
Cuz I have the wasp mount as well
So it's like the kid and its mom
You probably should if you arent double dps 2s trying to one deag people
I have no clue
I don’t see pets on MM usually
But I haven’t been playing at high rating in a while
Just DG meme queues
So idk
The mechanical pets dont have mortal strike tho so prob not worth!?
u def still play pet
dont u lose freedom if u play no pete
No clue
you do
I can’t see Tiny pets from 40 yards away
ms rat pet has freedom ms
holy fuck
surv
Oh survival?
@crystal forge thematic for necro druid gamer
shit mog
sussy tank games
LOL
Yes indubitably
truest thing said all night
Hunter mogs are all horrendous, it's either some weird looking edgy set from classic or steven seagal
And I was tired of steven seagal
I was going to farm some mail transmog for future Dracthyr.... I realize 95% of mail armor is bad
The castle nath set is pretty cool
The necro mail set is cool
I mean the shadowlands ones are for the most part the best ones for hunter
The sepulcher/current pvp set is by far the worst for me
the black ulduar one looks amazing though
Mechs just have a wall, and are immune to more ccs.
Dead raptor for most stuff, alive raptor for priest/ret.
the better question feels like "how"
i found out
oh no
No freedom no ros, maximum troll
cos they bang u through ur buttons in opener
I join rbg pug, people leave
Decline from arena lfg
The arcane dream presses on
@viscid remnant q tn?
nobody wants to associate with draenei male arcane mage



afflic is the way in pvp atm?
afflic is fotm, yea
Maybe arcane dream dead. I am sad.
did something happen for afflic to put it over demo?
yes, buffs
they buffed all of its damage for no reason
i see
Demo still seems better.
Aff did get a damage buff, though.
Jungle and kitty really good right now
bommy is for people who want to blast every 3 minutes and the rest of the time sit in bear form running around
n press clone
and root
what vers% are feral druids running for 3's?
why, every kyrian go is decent


cuz whjen u donate the money she put her name on ur bare breast
ok but there are better sites for it
Whats easiest rdruid 2s comp?
I mean a lot of people dont even look at real humans but some weeb avatar
Thats more evidence for it than against
Here its the same mog but I have a diff shoulder on left arm
i dont use helm
cuz its uggo
i also use bow from illidaddy
every time me and lake queue its literally carry games
or warlocks
Necro is better one deag but
Kyrian shoot thru walls is very pog
I think in 2s without a partner that can lock down kill target
Kyrian valuable
Or you could be dank kultiran and lockdown kill target yourself

no


Thats not a stun
eh same thing
Kyrian also scary one deag
U can stun with steady shot
But that honor talent kinda bad
U guys every get the feeling like
Uwanna play wow but when u log wow it gives u cancer
yes
Rbg pog
@viscid remnant
I was reviewing my games last night with partner
Every time it all went horribly wrong
I was trying something fancy I didn’t need to
After discussing the conclusion we came to was I should just play further back
Yeah and DF kinda dbls down on it
Its my downfall in CS too
Cs go?
Yeah
I get rly impatient and keep holding W or trying to make a play when people are holding
But I'm not good aimer like that to make the plays
Cs go I was always super disciplined
But I played so much 1.6 competitively lol
Could hold angles for days
I made eagle 2 when I was a bit smarter about smokes and more discipline not rushing
I was global NA but that was during inflation
Before they did the fresh reset
Great reset
I dont have a rank rn they hid everyone's rank again and readjusted ranks


