pvp

[tropic schooner]

Which often times is too late

[stray sigil]

bruh what

u have whole addons

telling u to press stuff

LOL

[stone breach]

???

[stray sigil]

thats not a pver/pvper thing

[tropic schooner]

And how many pure pvpers get those?

[safe heart]

Idk what the topic is here btw

[stray sigil]

that a musta rd vs non musta rd

[tropic schooner]

When going in pve

Loads dont

[stray sigil]

90% of pvpers use was now

[safe heart]

I use a couple

[tropic schooner]

For pve?

And most use very basic ones

[stray sigil]

or just download dbm lol

[tropic schooner]

And people often don't look at dbm well enough

[stone breach]

DBM just tells you timers

[tropic schooner]

If you aren't used to it

[stone breach]

DBM is like knowing how an RMP is going to open on you

[stray sigil]

X gonna do raid dmg in 30s

like wt

[stone breach]

It useful, but your brain tells you more

[stray sigil]

if that was true

those rwf guys

[stone breach]

The timer alone isnt worth anything

[stray sigil]

wouldnt have

50 addons

playign for them

[stone breach]

???

[stray sigil]

if they could just rely on brain power

kekw

thats a very weird take

[stone breach]

Arena players only have this fetish for not using addons because they used to be banned at AWC

[grand mesa]

The reason why those WA exists is because blizzard is fucking dumb and went into an arms race against addon developers

[tropic schooner]

Ahse that's a strawman

[grand mesa]

There’s no way

[tropic schooner]

That wasn't what was said

[grand mesa]

To do some mechanics

Without WAs rn

[stray sigil]

?

he said

dbm is useful

but ur brain is more

[tropic schooner]

Yes

[stray sigil]

lol

[tropic schooner]

That isn't false

That doesn't mean you shouldn't use dbm

Or other ways to get that information

[stray sigil]

half those mfers would have no brain if not for addons

so i do not get that take

whatsoever

[tropic schooner]

But that information alone doesn't tell you the whole story

[stray sigil]

the very little use of brain they use i suppose

[stone breach]

DBM tells you "this mechanic will happen".

My brain tells me how to interpret this (hold CDs, use CDs, positioning, defensives, utility)

[stray sigil]

wat

[tropic schooner]

Same in arena

[grand mesa]

I mean if mes wa is telling me when a mechanic is happening and omnibar is telling me when combust and kidney is coming back up how do I lose

[tropic schooner]

Yep

[grand mesa]

That’s the same thing as comparing dbm to raiding

[stray sigil]

thats what i am saying

the dude is sayign brain is more important

than the addons yelling at u

[haughty compass]

And then there’s me who uses pure instinct

And mostly isnt good but

[grand mesa]

I disagree with Thag opinion but on my more nuanced grounds

[stone breach]

The addon just gives you a timer, you still need to know how to use that information

[grand mesa]

That being that some of these mechanics now can’t be done without weakauras

[stone breach]

There is huge skill expression

[grand mesa]

Like jailer 6 bombs

[stray sigil]

wdym skill expression

its all a raid wide thing

like ppl tell each other

on X we use Y

why u make it seem its entirely on u

LOL

rsham sees something just blows his link

[polar nymph]

Lot of condiment opinions here today

[stray sigil]

everyone is very happy

[edgy shale]

theres a lot of personal responsibility

[stray sigil]

bro

puzzle made whole ass

spreadsheets

to tell people

when to use cds

whats personal about thast

[stone breach]

You'll be excited to learn that most healing CD plans aren't followed to a T

[grand mesa]

I don’t even follow my own healing CDs

[stone breach]

The big ones (PWB, Link) are

[grand mesa]

That I assign

[stone breach]

But most is really saying "you this player are responsible if we die here"

[grand mesa]

It’s. A rough idea but I change things around +- 5 or 10 seconds

Depending on cadence of fight

[stone breach]

Healing officer doesn't care if you convoke, flourish, tranq

[grand mesa]

And I told my other healers to do the same

[stray sigil]

seems kinda pepega

just waste tranq np ig

[grand mesa]

Healing CDs are another thing that hurt my brain lol

Towards the end of it I cba so I just find a kill log with our healing comp and just copy word for word their CD usage

But then sometimes they phase st slightly different times

Etc

Kinda annoying

Have to make sure they’re doing the same strat

[stray sigil]

i dont even remember how this convo came to be

but

[grand mesa]

But idk that was my first tier healing / doing spreadsheets so I could have been better sure. The RWF/HOF guys who figure out the healing CDs which everyone else roughly follows. They’re the big brains

[stray sigil]

pvers are bad

[grand mesa]

Putting square peg into a round hole sometimes trying to find a good use for link and then having it back up later in fight when u need it without overlapping with my tranq or monk revival

Blah blah blah

Idk fuji. I’m sure you have a bias because you see pvers in your content. But trust me. We’ve all seen pvpers in our content and they’re mind blowingly dumb sometimes lol

[haughty compass]

We’re all in this together. One love

[stray sigil]

wrong

[grand mesa]

But you should try raiding fuji I think you’ll like it and do well at it

[polar nymph]

Everyone sucks but me

[stray sigil]

very true

[haughty compass]

Lol

[stray sigil]

i am quite good infact

[grand mesa]

• it’ll get you all the stupid mount shit that you like

[stray sigil]

have to go thru dog shit normal/heroic guilds

[haughty compass]

Fuji what are you thoughts on feral v feral duels

[stray sigil]

i dont think its going to happen

depends

[grand mesa]

Why

[stray sigil]

same cov ?

or convoke duels

[polar nymph]

Venthyr

[stone breach]

Pvp with someone who's an officer in a guild you'd want to raid in and nepotism your way into a raid slot

[safe heart]

It's my only hope

[grand mesa]

Be the guy who Carries pvers to early rating if it’s a tier where pvp gear is good

[haughty compass]

M+ and arena scratch my itch pretty good. I like both, and I like how casually I can do it and still be decent

[grand mesa]

Easy raid slot

[stray sigil]

im not carrying pvers in pvp

that shit is aids

they have no hands

too used to killing ai

[stone breach]

Pver in pvp here

[polar nymph]

Because Arena doesn't play on timers either

[stone breach]

Arena is raw skill

Pve is scripted and bad

[polar nymph]

Arena adds 3 inches

[stray sigil]

true

[stray sigil]

u sound like a pver

are u upset

[stone breach]

[polar nymph]

Very, I challenge you to irl pvp

[haughty compass]

Based on this comversation I’ve changed my mind. Both players are good

[polar nymph]

1v1 me in the wildy

[haughty compass]

Participation in both is good

[haughty compass]

🙄 really? Lol

[polar nymph]

Nah

[stone breach]

[polar nymph]

[stray sigil]

show me when u can outplay a pve mechanic (not an exploit) and ill change my mind about ur timers weird take

[stone breach]

Is this a serious request?

Watch how a good warlock places demonic portal on a fight

[stray sigil]

how is tghat an outplay

i do not know

[polar nymph]

I tanked the last phase of Cordana today on my Mage.

Ama

It's true

[stray sigil]

idk if u compare uh

ce to like not low glads

prob higher chance to have hands on the glads

and not the ce

ye

[haughty compass]

Gladiator requires 3 good players

[stray sigil]

not rly no

can do 1 really good

2 mediorcres

but ye

raid is 25

or sometihng

[haughty compass]

Where are my hero’s at then

[grand mesa]

I think CE players can get carried way easier

[stray sigil]

if u have

[grand mesa]

For sure

[haughty compass]

Carry me boys

[stray sigil]

5 shhitters

doesnt matter

[grand mesa]

Just be the 20th stupidest motherfucker and if they don’t bench you free CE

Just a matter of when

[stone breach]

@stray sigil https://clips.twitch.tv/TubularEagerBarracudaCoolStoryBro

[grand mesa]

Our warlock forgot to drop warlock gste for downphase of rygelon like 5 pulls in a row

[haughty compass]

I’ve seen some really bad pvp only players, that’s for sure lol

[stray sigil]

idk i tihink a 1600 player

has better hands

than a heroic raider

mayb

1800 def better hands

[haughty compass]

Heroic raiding is free

[stray sigil]

than heroic

[grand mesa]

That’s another thing

[stone breach]

Heroic clear first week of the tier or heroic last week of the tier?

[grand mesa]

HOF is like early early glad

[stray sigil]

both

[grand mesa]

My CE is wait for months of inflation glad

Lmao

[stone breach]

Heroic clear first week is like hitting 1800 or 2.1 first week.

Heroic clear last week is like hitting 1400. Participation trophy

[grand mesa]

Week 1 anduin was no fucking joke

On heroic

[stone breach]

SoFo was whack since Anduin was like an end tier boss in terms of tuning

[stray sigil]

wanst this raid

very poorlmy tuned

[stone breach]

Too hard, yes

[grand mesa]

It’s probably the hardest raid tier in history of wow

[stray sigil]

so like does it matter to tqlk about this raid

in a conv like this

[haughty compass]

My dumb ass figured out the normal fights right away this past weekend

[polar nymph]

Depends on when

[haughty compass]

No guides, no dbm lol

[polar nymph]

Now it's free

First weeks it was op

[stone breach]

I'd make the same comparison for Sylvanas and Denathrius

[stray sigil]

took liquid what

2 days to clear

the last raid

and this one was long

[grand mesa]

Talking about how well you did in normal post nerf sofo is like the dumbass who’s happy about being 12 killing blows 6 deaths in a random BG

[stone breach]

Rank 1 pvpers would beat Liquid obviously

[stray sigil]

think this one an qanomaly that shouldnt vbe used to compare

lol

[polar nymph]

This was 2-3 weeks?

[grand mesa]

It was past week 3 reset

[stone breach]

Get the Miestro to be the raid leader

[stray sigil]

either ur memeing

or ur not readin what i wrote

never spoke of r1 vs rwf

out with the condiment shit pls

i said hof and r1s

[polar nymph]

Which condiment

[stray sigil]

very must ard

isaid

a good group of r1s

[polar nymph]

Nice

[grand mesa]

That r1 pvpers in a group could get HOF

[stray sigil]

that want to learn the fights

[grand mesa]

Np

[stray sigil]

would do better than ur average

hof

[stone breach]

You could take any 20 r1s who have never had HoF before and give them an entire expansion, literally no shot they get it

[stray sigil]

ya so ur not reading

anything i wrote lol

[stone breach]

Take any 1 of those r1s put them on a HoF team and they probably justify their spot if they try

[stray sigil]

r1 who learns prob ends up a much better player than ur average hof player

si the arguement

that was also a part of my arugment

[grand mesa]

Is that correlation or causation tho

[stray sigil]

that ppl got upset about

[haughty compass]

I think it depends on your “base”

[grand mesa]

Will they be lights out in pve because of skills they learned in pvp

Or are they lights out because they’re insane to begin with

[haughty compass]

If you were a juicer in pve, you can learn pvp and hit good ratings eventually

[grand mesa]

That was my argument

[stray sigil]

if ur like high glad to r1

chances are ur just a very good player

[haughty compass]

There are no absolutes in this

Lol

[stray sigil]

not talking about the piss 2.4 glads

from this xpac

means nothing

everyone and their mom a glad now

unchained helped

[grand mesa]

Glyph do you feel the reverse is true

For some reason I don’t

[stray sigil]

i said depends on the class

pure mongo class can do fine in pvp

[haughty compass]

Everyone got glad. But Fuji in s3

[stray sigil]

liek a good dh/warrior in pve

[haughty compass]

😭🤣

[stray sigil]

could do fine in pvp

but a very good mage in pve

[grand mesa]

An insane pver can become an insane pvper if they sit and learn it

[stone breach]

Casters are definitely very different in pvp from pve

[stray sigil]

isnt the same at all in pvp

[stray sigil]

disagree

[grand mesa]

I just think insane players will be insane no matter the content

🤷‍♂️

[stray sigil]

max is an insane player is he not ?

would he vbe good in pvp

no

not in a million year

[grand mesa]

U don’t parse On prog do u

[stone breach]

I don't know if today Max would get glad, but young Max was a good player

[grand mesa]

Well I guess u kill it early

Yeah

[stray sigil]

idk im just going by rwf metrics cuz idk any pvers

[grand mesa]

Hahahahhaa

[stone breach]

Max from cata would definitely be capable of glad

[stray sigil]

1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% disagree

LOL

did u play in cata ??

[stone breach]

I raided with Max in cata

He was cracked

[stray sigil]

cata pvp

is not comparable to todays pvp

if there is a gap

now from pve to pvp

the gap was much bigger

in pvp in cata

100%

[stone breach]

Did you kill Spine pre-nerf?

Did you kill Ragnaros pre-nerf?

[haughty compass]

I was rbg only 2.5 gamer

Top of the ladder in s1 cata. True story

[stray sigil]

old man glyph dam

[grand mesa]

Glyphs idea of easy is different than my def of east

Easy

[safe heart]

Is raiding fun

Honest question

[grand mesa]

His definition of easy usually means 300+ wipes for my guild

[stone breach]

I like it

[grand mesa]

😂😂😂

[stray sigil]

glyph is cracked and jacked

[stone breach]

Fun is subjective

[haughty compass]

Glyph green name bro

[grand mesa]

No

It’s not fun

Maybe

[stray sigil]

thats why i said

[grand mesa]

I wouldn’t know

[stray sigil]

i would not raid

[safe heart]

I've never really liked raiding , only for a very brief sprint on the classic server

[stray sigil]

in a heroic pisslow guild

i would like to raid in a good one

but i have no xp

so not possible

so i will never raid

[grand mesa]

I think most Mid to late CE guilds just don’t have 20 good players

They have 12-15 decent to good players

[safe heart]

I raided the most in everquest but everquest raiding isn't anything I wish on a human

[grand mesa]

And 5 idiots

And raiding is miserable

[haughty compass]

Fuji you main ww and do some m+ you’ll get into a guild jr you network and shit

[grand mesa]

Just watching someone fuck up something over and over again and it’s outside your control

[stray sigil]

i do not want to play monk LOL

i am feral gamer

[stone breach]

No shot you ever raid then

Feral doesn't get a slot

[haughty compass]

Feral almost never wanted In ce guilds lol

[safe heart]

What about sp

[stray sigil]

we get innervate and raid buff

maybe in df

[safe heart]

I could play sp instead but that's best I can do

[grand mesa]

Your raid buff doesn’t matter

[stone breach]

Ahahahahahahahaha

[safe heart]

Feral or sp

[stray sigil]

if numbers are better than boomies

why take a boomie then

if the fights are not

[haughty compass]

Ranged

[stone breach]

SP

[stray sigil]

anti melee

[grand mesa]

Feral numbers are already better

[stone breach]

Because they are

[grand mesa]

It’s cause boomkin is ranged

[stone breach]

Raiding will be anti-melee as long as RMP is cancer

[stray sigil]

i mean my grandma can play boomy

im sure i can play boomy

[grand mesa]

There’s only so much real estate around a boss

Pin it

[stray sigil]

or i just make my hof guild

and i get myself a spot

that sounds good

[safe heart]

Fuji I'll join your guild

[stray sigil]

thats 2 fgerals were fucked

[haughty compass]

Fuji raid leading would be a sight

[safe heart]

No ill play sp

[grand mesa]

Just play boomkin in raid

[stray sigil]

sp weirdchamp

[grand mesa]

You’ll find a spot

Np

[safe heart]

I'm nice with it on sp

[stray sigil]

boomy is literal;ly

[stone breach]

Running a guild is literally the least fun thing I can imagine, you don't want to do it Fuji

[stray sigil]

the most boring shit

in the world

[grand mesa]

So is low end CE raiding

You saw my jailer prog

How fun did it look like I was having

[stone breach]

Just get high and vibe

[safe heart]

Every friend I've ever had in any game who accepted a leadership position ended up hating the game and never coming back

[grand mesa]

I had my first 85 GCDs memorized

[stray sigil]

i was a gm in wotlk

[grand mesa]

It’s diff now

[stray sigil]

when i was like 13

[grand mesa]

Running a guild

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

Is miserable

[stone breach]

Wotlk isn't the same game

[safe heart]

Now u r 14

[stray sigil]

uit was poggers

[grand mesa]

No one wants to do it

[stray sigil]

remember clearing fukin ulduar

[grand mesa]

I don’t even want officer but I keep getting it

[stray sigil]

very poggers

[stray sigil]

16*

[safe heart]

That's a new record

[grand mesa]

@stone breach that’s why I gave up healing. I just want to login. Blast as boomy and vibe. Then logout or do something else lol

[safe heart]

Healing in a raid seems alot less fun than healing a key

[stray sigil]

boomy blast

[stone breach]

Venthyr is even better. Just blast for 30s then vibe and do mechanics for 2m30s

[grand mesa]

It’s great

[stray sigil]

u have fun having 5/6 abilties

[stone breach]

Go venthyr

[stray sigil]

doing 0 dmg ?

[stone breach]

???

[stray sigil]

moonfire sunfire wtrah starfire

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[stone breach]

Play venthyr, big dmg

[stray sigil]

0 dmg cl;ass

[grand mesa]

Big dam

[stray sigil]

bro my rake ticks hit harder

tyhan ur stupid starfires

actualyl crazy

[stone breach]

Our fillers are just fancy +AP buttons

The damage is from spenders

[grand mesa]

This is dumbass pvp mentality. They look at how big individual instances of damage are

Like it matters In pve

[haughty compass]

No respect for moonkin dmg. The type of feral to stay in with only bark skin while my cds are up and die

[stone breach]

I love when people chase me behind a pillar and die to 6 starsurges in a row

[haughty compass]

I bust everytime

[stone breach]

[safe heart]

I never respect boomie damage idk why

[grand mesa]

Boomkin actually kinda pumps man

[stray sigil]

cuz they dont do any

boomy dh might aswell be

dh and his bitch

[safe heart]

If I see kyrian buff I just clone

[haughty compass]

When I played hpriest moonkin convoke I beat 8/10 feral priests last season

[stray sigil]

dh and his clone bot

[haughty compass]

Just no respect for the dam

[safe heart]

I will play dh

[stray sigil]

0 shot u would ever win that shit

that soudns terrible lol

[grand mesa]

The feral was asleep

[stray sigil]

did u play bash or u relied on the chastise?

cuz i dont see how feral dies

ever rly

[haughty compass]

“Relied”

This man

[stray sigil]

ok so u sent the go on chastise

[haughty compass]

Ye

[stray sigil]

does boomy convoke even do anything

i swear does nothing

[stone breach]

Big mastery buff

[grand mesa]

Boomkin 1 min voke isn’t the same as feral

[haughty compass]

Root beam chastise. I did pulsar too

[grand mesa]

Sure

[stone breach]

Convoke is a 3s channel for a mastery buff

[haughty compass]

And most times the Druid lives, then priest gets chastised and I send the buffed surges on him and he dies

[stone breach]

The real dam is the 6 starsurges after it

[grand mesa]

Yeah

[stray sigil]

did the feral not find

his pillar friend

[stone breach]

Feral's have no brain cells

You just put a ball for yarn on the floor and they lose their minds

[haughty compass]

I’ve 1 shot plenty dumb fury warr in openers too

With just incarn convoke badge

[stray sigil]

with 1 min convoke ?

[haughty compass]

Yes

Early last season

[stray sigil]

ok they are def trolllnig

how many surge is 1min convoke

2?

3 mayb?

[haughty compass]

It’s after convoke dude

[stray sigil]

does it build full ap

[haughty compass]

Yes most of the time

[stone breach]

4-5 + generating 50 AP

[stray sigil]

no shot u get 5

in 1min convoke

0 chance

[haughty compass]

You don’t even know and you’re here preaching rofl

[stray sigil]

thatd be like

lottery lvl

of rng

[grand mesa]

It’s the niya mastery buff after that probably clinches it

[stray sigil]

i mean 5 surges

is not a thing

we get

[haughty compass]

Not during the convoke no

[stray sigil]

like 3 bites

[stone breach]

So you usually lose a surge to gaining starfall

[stray sigil]

ye but he said 4-5 + 50 ap

[haughty compass]

But you get 2-3 and then you pop foe and get like 6 more

[stray sigil]

so means during the convoke itself 4-5

[haughty compass]

With full stacks of aura and mastery and badge

They slap dude

And gear mostly mastery

[stray sigil]

1min convoke is 3s channel ye?

[haughty compass]

Yes

[stray sigil]

chastise also 3s

they are bosted

not pressing anything

[haughty compass]

They do, and then the priest takes the rest of the surges when feral walls

[stone breach]

Yes, 12 spells.

Very roughly 4 offrole, 4 big, 4 small +/- 1 for each

[grand mesa]

Pre starfall the convoke 😈

[haughty compass]

Then priest flops or they use everything. Then I just clone

[grand mesa]

One less spell

[haughty compass]

Over and over

Then pulsar convoke badge in like 30s

[stray sigil]

ok ut last ssn was hpriest ssn

[stone breach]

The big brain is to start the cast behind pillar then come out after 1.5s of the cast

[stray sigil]

im just getting headaches

[grand mesa]

So it machine guns the surges

Yeah

[haughty compass]

The point was it’s pretty big dam

[grand mesa]

I saw markers doing that as resto boomkin

[stray sigil]

ye my point is its not damage if they play with hands

cvuz the priest can just

fade the rest

[haughty compass]

Yea 3 seasons of moonkin convoke, I got pretty good

[stray sigil]

when u swap

[stone breach]

Boomy dam is 0 or 60, no in between

[haughty compass]

In 2s

[haughty compass]

Yea some do

But some don’t see it coming

[stray sigil]

wtf mmr was that

[haughty compass]

2 30k surges in a row

2.2

[grand mesa]

I think people forget about the juiced surges after convoke is over

[stray sigil]

na is doomed

[haughty compass]

This

[grand mesa]

Especially ones not tied to incarn

[tiny oar]

Me too 😦

[stray sigil]

had a talk about pve where i was right but ppl got upset then big daddy glyph says same thing 40mins later

[haughty compass]

But too many demo here now

[stray sigil]

headaches for no reason

[grand mesa]

If glyph says it I’m more inclined to believe it tbh

He’s done both at very high level

[haughty compass]

It’s the delivery

[grand mesa]

So he can talk intelligently about it

[stray sigil]

im nto a english speaker mfer

[stone breach]

Idk, I don't think what Glyph said and you said, Fuji, are the same

[stray sigil]

exquise me

[tiny oar]

[stray sigil]

no but u had trouble reading me from what i gatehred

or not reading

but def what i said

its k tho

i knew i was riht all along

cant be wrong

legendary

[haughty compass]

Lmao@

[tiny oar]

I always believed in u fuji

[stray sigil]

ty iknew it bro

[tiny oar]

💚

[haughty compass]

Obnoxious. But I fuck with you still

[stray sigil]

blasphmey

[grand mesa]

He’ll grow out of it pykan 😂

[stray sigil]

i am not an obnoxious person

no shot

blashmepty

what time is it down under

like 7 am

[haughty compass]

Lmao alright I’m gonna lift

[stray sigil]

close

9 am

[haughty compass]

Enough of this

[stray sigil]

legendary

[stray sigil]

wrong

[rigid linden]

We are now

Full eternal.

Minus one fat mastery ring and legendaries

[safe heart]

Legendary

[grand mesa]

Huge

[rigid linden]

Uwu.

[grand mesa]

My dh logs in today. Full cosmic

This will be fun

[rigid linden]

Lmfao

[haughty compass]

Where that ring from again?

[rigid linden]

I make it a mission to not q with people who don't bother gearing up

[haughty compass]

I’m about to build a full mastery convoke set next to carry my friends in 2s

[rigid linden]

Ring is from sepulchre

Forgot what boss

[haughty compass]

Maybe I buy from vendor with that coin

[grand mesa]

Rygelon ring I’m p sure

I should have used dinar on that ring 😂

[stone breach]

I thought dinar was weapons and trinkets only

[tiny oar]

Gear is a crutch for bad play tell him to rip throats out

[stray sigil]

tf is a dinar

is that some zuldazar shit

[grand mesa]

Oh true

U right gharnef

Well I’ll never get ring then

I did get a gavel tho

[stone breach]

Big Pog Gavel

[haughty compass]

Oh alright the.

[stone breach]

Pver guaranteed loot. 1 dinar per boss. 3 quests at 30/15/5 kills.

Buy gear from vendor

[grand mesa]

Yeah man. To tank all those keys I do

[haughty compass]

Im in garage doing clean and jerks looking up wow gear. Sheesh

[grand mesa]

Still too far away from true deterministic bis like pvp

[stone breach]

If we end up with something half as nice as dinars and the upgrade tokens I'll be THRILLED

[grand mesa]

I want to be able to target buy everything so I’m “done” by 2 months or less for pve idk

Just like pvp

[stone breach]

There are too many people who play the game as a loot drop simulator for that to be viable for blizz

[grand mesa]

Yeah

That’s why game is bad

Who actually wants the dopamine hit of IQD finally dropping after 42 DOS runs

Who actually likes that

If they want randomized loot drop thrills they should play poe or Diablo idk

[stone breach]

M+ players like it, smh

[grand mesa]

Well I don’t blame them

Cause it’s directly in the content they do

Just like we arena and play games to get the gear we do

[stone breach]

I'd love to get all my gear from raid, never m+ ever, and pvp on any character I want whenever

[clear pulsar]

I dont think m+ players like it

Lol

[stone breach]

But it's unrealistic

[clear pulsar]

That's silly

[grand mesa]

If I could reliably gear from killing bosses

I’d be much happier

[haughty compass]

Most people I know hit ksm and stop doing m+

[clear pulsar]

I mean I couldnt care less about the loot system personally, but I also never cared for infinitely farming a specific thing just to be pissed about it 3 days later

[haughty compass]

Or get portals and stop

[grand mesa]

That’s me

[clear pulsar]

I just like m+ much better than raid

[grand mesa]

I hold w until holding w doesn’t work

[haughty compass]

Same

[stone breach]

M+

[haughty compass]

If I could pve by myself I would

[grand mesa]

M+ is fucking terrible

And I think ruined wow

[stone breach]

I remember when you ran dungeons for 2 weeks an expansion

[clear pulsar]

Time constraint, individual accountability, also just the way resto plays in m+ vs raid

Raiding sucks lol

[clear pulsar]

TORGHAST BROTHER

[grand mesa]

I’m so disappointed with torghast

[clear pulsar]

Bro if torghast dropped loot like m+ I would literally play it all day

[haughty compass]

I love torg

[grand mesa]

That’s why I came back for SL

I thought torghast was gonna be the 4th pillar of end game

[tiny oar]

Torgy p kinda lit

[grand mesa]

For solo play

[stone breach]

I wish torghast had at least dropped some gear

[grand mesa]

Like what m+ did for dungeons

[clear pulsar]

If it at least had a leaderboard man

I would never stop til I hit #1 on all of them

[haughty compass]

One of the first things I do on Alts is go to@torg and see how insane it is

Demo raid boss pet

So fun

[grand mesa]

It’s cause they tried to fit it into the weekly lockout player power rewards paradigm

[clear pulsar]

Perma turtle hunter, vivify spam monk, fire blast knock mage

[grand mesa]

Fucked up the whole thing

[stone breach]

I can't be bothered to do torghast on alts since the first two runs I have to loot for myself

[clear pulsar]

It's so lit man

[stone breach]

The autoloot being a power you buy on the tree

[haughty compass]

Arcane coming out of invis

1 shot boss

[stone breach]

I was excited for leveling in torghast until it wasn't viable at all

[haughty compass]

I’d level more Alts if I could do toep

Torg

[clear pulsar]

You can level thru torghast

Wdym

[stone breach]

Reminds me of when they made leveling in BGs possible, but the exp gain is AWFUL

[clear pulsar]

It isnt super efficient to spam it vs dungeon spam but 1 a day is very good exp

For the time

You get ~70% of exp bar in 15 mins

[stone breach]

No shot, 1 torghast is slower than and gives less exp than 1 dungeon run

[clear pulsar]

Most of the exp is gotten just from souls and the boss so

If you dont wanna full clear you can go much faster

[stone breach]

No reason to run it when dungeon spam is straight better

[clear pulsar]

And still get half exp bar

[grand mesa]

But if it’s fun do it !

Stop trying to optimize the fun out of the game!

[clear pulsar]

I literally just said it isnt more efficient than dungeon

[grand mesa]

No one likes doing normal NW over and over snd over again

[clear pulsar]

Like its fine you dont have to do it

I was telling pykan that you can do it and it isnt bad

[stone breach]

Yeah, but even the first of the day isn't worth

[clear pulsar]

Ok bro dont do it then!?

It's like homies in feral earlier 'man this conversation is so boring bro i hate this topic bro why are we talking about it'

You know, just dont take part

[stray sigil]

face

eat my ballsack

[safe heart]

Yo fearl pumps

[stray sigil]

Yo fearl pumps

[grand mesa]

@stone breach these fucking ferals man

Stray cats need to be put down

[stone breach]

I'll get my spray bottle out

[clear pulsar]

You cant just say that what the FUCK dude

????????????????????????

[stone breach]

Just spray them when they get out of line

[grand mesa]

Lmao wdym

[clear pulsar]

Thats literally murder

Of your brothers and sisters too

[haughty compass]

Anyone else here play both moonkin and feral?

Or just me

The forever duelist at both

[grand mesa]

Why don’t u go for 2s elite if not glad

Feral can def do it np

Idk about moonkin lol

[clear pulsar]

Not in pvp

But I play boomie in m+ sometimes

And torghie G

[haughty compass]

I’m gonna try this season for sure

I usually just mess around after fully geared

I don’t like Necro feral, or at least I’m bored of it atm

[stray sigil]

listen was def not meantfor u

500 dps feral

[tiny oar]

not what u wanna see mid key

[stray sigil]

does be like that sometimes

my dog takes a shit on the floor

nothing u can do

[grand mesa]

That’s when u threaten the dog it’ll become soup

[stray sigil]

im not asian

no can do

tru or tru

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wet-shower-bath-water-pouring-gif-17140437

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

taylor swift

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

u would like taylor swift

[grand mesa]

Taylor swift is great

[clear pulsar]

I do like taylor swift

[stray sigil]

ok boomerr

[grand mesa]

T swift is boomer?

[stray sigil]

sussy

[stray sigil]

ofc not

you are

[grand mesa]

True

[stray sigil]

where is dvid

he played sub 1h today

this is not good

thats 13h less than usual

[grand mesa]

Hrmm 1989 came out 2014

I was 27. That’s not bad

[stray sigil]

u were 27 in 1989?

sheeeeeeeesh

[grand mesa]

The album

[stray sigil]

abgs

👀

[grand mesa]

Arterial blood gas?

[stray sigil]

i forgot ur a boomer

goddamnit

[clear pulsar]

Brazilian association of senior golf

[stray sigil]

u tried to be funyn ang messed it up

dumbass

ABGS

NOT

ABSG

https://tenor.com/view/brain-damage-gif-25961554

[grand mesa]

Asian baby girls

I didn’t know they made a term for them lmao

[clear pulsar]

Bro puzzle you cant say that man

You're too old

It's weird

You made it weird now

[grand mesa]

Did I

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

ye made it weird

[grand mesa]

In my day on AIM this is how usernames spelled it

[stray sigil]

[haughty compass]

lmao

[grand mesa]

aZnBeBegUrL

👍

[stray sigil]

uh no actually

i think theres 1 hot chick in twice

but idk

mayb not

i think most koreans not attractive to me atleast celebrities

[clear pulsar]

Blackpink actually owns idc what yall say

[stray sigil]

cuz they all full plastic

[grand mesa]

Black pinks new album is gonna release soon

Very excited

[stray sigil]

and im not about plastic life

[grand mesa]

Plastic is very normalized in korea

[stray sigil]

yes

[clear pulsar]

Lying thru your teeth I've seen your instagram

Or uh

Twitter

[stray sigil]

wtf

[clear pulsar]

Your retweets

[stray sigil]

big booty

not plastic

also i do like every girl

cuz

i know u idiots

will have it on feed

[clear pulsar]

Cuz you're a gigantic simp but wont talk to any of em

[grand mesa]

It’s not uncommon even in states to have girl go to Korea for double eyelid procedure for sweet 16 or 18th birthday

[clear pulsar]

True or true

[stray sigil]

nop ima be single for a while

last chick was not good for my mental health

[clear pulsar]

Bruh you cant say it's not uncommon to something that large majority of the population cant even afford.

[haughty compass]

rbg yolo tank time

[stray sigil]

we dont all live in favellas

[haughty compass]

afk bases and flame team if we lose

[stray sigil]

tru or tru

get fucked faced

decimated

[clear pulsar]

You also dont have a kid

[stray sigil]

annihalited

[haughty compass]

or a job

[stray sigil]

ya listen

[grand mesa]

Actually true

[stray sigil]

last chick ended up fucking my best friend

XD

[grand mesa]

Ah

[haughty compass]

fucking oof

[grand mesa]

That explains a lot

[clear pulsar]

I'm sorry feji

[grand mesa]

That sucks

[stray sigil]

ye this year was not good for good ol fujmeister

dark place

dark time

[grand mesa]

U don’t talk to the dude right

[haughty compass]

pull us closer fuji, we got you

dont push us away

[stray sigil]

no hes in my friends group still

[grand mesa]

Oh that’s awkward af

[haughty compass]

fuck that dude

[clear pulsar]

Ok listen send him to brazil

[grand mesa]

Fuck that guy

And fuck your friends

[stray sigil]

i dont speak to him though

[clear pulsar]

'Oh bro lets go to rio for a end of year trip it'll be cool'

[stray sigil]

even his family wotn speak to him

[grand mesa]

Send him to Brazil

[clear pulsar]

Real life pvp

[grand mesa]

Face’s people love kidnapping tourists

Or is that Thailand

[stray sigil]

true nice kidneys

[grand mesa]

I forget

[stray sigil]

sell well on blackmarket

[grand mesa]

It’s not murder if you leave him with 1 kidney left

[stray sigil]

i thought thailand was only for ladyboys

where usee 20 old white men

[haughty compass]

not sure you can say that anymore

[stray sigil]

hanging with ladyboys

[clear pulsar]

Ok now i'm interested

[stray sigil]

wdym

[clear pulsar]

Is that the ABGs you talking bout?

[grand mesa]

U don’t stray far from the strict tourist area in Thailand from what I understand

[stray sigil]

they legit say they are ladyboys

[haughty compass]

idk man something something cis male

[stray sigil]

its not me

..........

bruh they themselves say it

jesus

ya iudk thailand i would not visit

i would go to the chill countries

like japan korea

maybe china in shanghai

[grand mesa]

Like don’t go to the local town to experience authentic Thailand is what I was always told

[clear pulsar]

"the gyphstro" kills me bro lmao

[grand mesa]

By yourself

[stray sigil]

ya idk i wouldnt go where shit not safe

japan bis

but i am broke boy

but i am white

going to asian country

[haughty compass]

the glyhstro

lmfao

[stray sigil]

i would get hella bitches

for sure

👀

abgs

👀

[grand mesa]

ABGs are pretty uniquely American bro

Asian American

[clear pulsar]

Bet the australians all speak good thai and tagalog too

[haughty compass]

not my style, all you dude

[stray sigil]

im sure there are abgs in japan

[haughty compass]

my wife 8.5 redhead, i win

[stray sigil]

nop

ginger = n osoul

its known

[haughty compass]

for sure

[stray sigil]

pykan are u the one who likes harry potter

[clear pulsar]

Yeah but I still am all about them real asian cuties for sure

[stray sigil]

if so make sense u like gingers

[clear pulsar]

How you call her a 8.5 like that man you gonna get the boot soon

[haughty compass]

i do not like harry potter

[stray sigil]

fuck its the other boomer

ur good then

[haughty compass]

because if i say 10 it sounds ridiculous

no one is 10

[grand mesa]

They don’t shave

[safe heart]

Red head either 10 or 1 no in between

[grand mesa]

Idk if u care

[clear pulsar]

And?

[stray sigil]

tru they do have the bush

[grand mesa]

I hate it

[clear pulsar]

Puzzle you got some weird shit you say something man

[stray sigil]

i dont really fuck with the bush

[clear pulsar]

Idk

Prob comes with being 35

[haughty compass]

ther are no 10s

[stray sigil]

bush is no good

[safe heart]

Red head either 9 or 1 no in between

[grand mesa]

Asian Americans ya np

[stray sigil]

true

[grand mesa]

When u go fobby it’s hit or miss

[stray sigil]

filipina

[grand mesa]

Yeah my last GF before I got married was half

[stray sigil]

🙏

[grand mesa]

Half Korean half Irish

She was also nuts

[stray sigil]

i follow someone on tiwtter

[grand mesa]

But hot

[stray sigil]

half german half korean i think

🙏

[grand mesa]

That’s when I kinda learned just hot isn’t worth it lol

Yes

[stray sigil]

ye

what i hate most is

[clear pulsar]

If you tell me man I dont like a bush I know I wouldnt hang with you irl true or true?

[stray sigil]

im not going to favellas

[grand mesa]

That’s cause ur personally offended

[stray sigil]

work for me

ya face def a whole ass weirdo

[clear pulsar]

Ok but that 2nd part is literally inexistent in oce yall racist and dickheads as fuck

[grand mesa]

Cause Brazilian wax is like half of your culture

[stray sigil]

tru or tru

[grand mesa]

So it just offends you

[rigid linden]

LA

[clear pulsar]

Bro?????

[rigid linden]

TI

NAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

HEAT

[stray sigil]

tru also

latina are also bis

[rigid linden]

Im engaged to a thicc 5.6 cutie latina big booty big titty HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[clear pulsar]

Puzzle man just cuz you asian doesnt mean you can keep getting away with this blatant hate speech against other peoples man

[stray sigil]

THIS MAN JUST SAID HIS OWN GIRL

[grand mesa]

Hahahaha

[stray sigil]

A 5.

IM DED

LMFAO

wtf formy

[rigid linden]

5"6 woops

LMAO

[stray sigil]

is ruthless

ok LOL

thank fuck

[grand mesa]

HAHAHAHHA

[stray sigil]

LMFAO

[safe heart]

5inch 6 centimeters

[rigid linden]

LKMFAO

[stray sigil]

holy fuck i was like ruthless mfer

[rigid linden]

exactly

[grand mesa]

@clear pulsar ur my favorite I’m just trying to get funny reactions from u

Indignant Face is the best face

[stray sigil]

face is noones favorite

[rigid linden]

WTF DO I DO NOW

[grand mesa]

Idk I like his voice

[clear pulsar]

At least brazilian women rly do wax like that, the other day I read 'brazilian butt lift' and it's literally not a thing people do or even think about here

And it made me madge

[rigid linden]

IM 3/3 CAPPED AND FULL GEARED

MY LIFE IS OVER

[grand mesa]

Don’t u feel empty

[stray sigil]

time to alt

kekw

[grand mesa]

After finishing conq grind

[clear pulsar]

this is like the 5th time I hear that from someone in wow idgi

[grand mesa]

After going so nutso for a week

[rigid linden]

its like finishing a good show

[clear pulsar]

You aint heard me sing yet you're gonna hate the voice real soon

[rigid linden]

just empty now

[stray sigil]

u have a very soft voice

liek

david would say

a soy voice

tru or tru

[grand mesa]

Drink karaoke keys one night

Book it

We sing testify

[clear pulsar]

[grand mesa]

Tswift

[stray sigil]

stream it so i can blackmail face for the rest of his life

[clear pulsar]

There used to be a whatsapp audio of me singing the brazilian anthem going around heroes of the storm Br community

By the brazilian anthem I dont mean literally the official anthem just the most epic classic song of all time

[tiny oar]

I TIMED AN UPPER

[clear pulsar]

LESGO LAKE

[tiny oar]

low fucking dam tho 😦

[stray sigil]

legendary

are u close to ksm

[tiny oar]

yea 100 away

missing a couple fort keys

[stray sigil]

pog

[tiny oar]

should be ez next week

[stray sigil]

i need to get started eventually

but took me 3 weeks last time