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Fuji survived playing with me he can play with anyone
bro i literallly get hpalas who never bop
ill swap holy kyrian afer we lose this one
this is so fucking annoying
nop
poo gear aper
pissant
yeah
its heroic
This is normal
to have epic fun!
It's day 9 of the season.
It's week 2
pretty sure last 3 seasons ive played ive not had to tryhard at 1.5k
on the first week
Pretty sure you're remembering wrong
Because having pvped for the first 3-4 weeks of each tier this expansion, this is what it was like
whoa easy there with the copium
EU might be more fucked than NA because no Russian players, but playing against glads at 1600 was the case
Yeah, EU in actual shambles.
there are russian players
NA should be freebies.
🦅 🇺🇸
🇳🇦 🦅
Last season I thought I'd get 2k first week lol
i got 2.1 first week last ssn
Yeah but ur good
2s or 3s?
Think this might be a get duelist and chill season
1600 arcane enjoyer
didnt conquest get uncapped? u guys should celebrate
Next week ya
Will be fun. I kinda want to tank down main some and just farm cq
@haughty compass feral is actually good against outlaw I feel
Played with fuji some and it wasn’t like these 8-9-10 min games
I mean even if they are. It’s kinda like what does the evasion do anyway if you maim them then hit the bleeds.
Fuji 100-0’d some poor outlaw rogue in the opener
He didn’t use phial cause fuji didn’t use sickle 
Just died
I’m a firm believer in not opening zerk ever now and judge any feral who does
i mean it depends
i dont like zerking in opener
People end up sitting so much dam on opener cause they’re so scared of sickle lol
on mordor u send the damgur
They greed their shit
incase theyre apes and dont react
It’s kinda like s1 boomkin
If you didn’t send convoke insta
They’d sit through incredible amounts of shit to keep their trinkets lol
Next week
Full uncap + spoils of war
i mean u can def tell ppl only pop cds for zerk
Is it because
what is spoils of war
They fucked up vault
never for ff or anything
honor buff ?
ye but like i mean
in opener if u dont press anythnig
even to ff
u can straight die
i mean in my rsham i can pre earthen and i have fleshyc+auto heal
live most of the shiat
I keep telling fuji David most ferals don’t do actual dam with their maim/ff goes since sickle came out
ya u pre earthen i just send it on the other dude lol
and we cross u
thats what happened
I still don’t know why
to that outlaw
the rsham
pre earthend
and i just went the outlaw dragged him out of earthen
I bash/cloned rsham as outlaw got maim FF’d
then they just apers
if u have time to drag him
theres time for him to pre use cds
idont rly die much on my sham idk
feels tanky
ya he pressed feint
but like
i just wait it out
lol
is earthen even good
vs dots
?
i think it works ye
good button
both sucks vs dots
Special effects when being able to take an Ancestral Protection Totem.
Get used to yelling "Click Totemic Revival!" at your fellow raiders.
Earthen Wall Totem is a cooldown that redirects damage taken by players in its area of effect. The redirection works on all sources of damage including DoTs, ]
copy pasta from wowhead
@vestal citrus how bad was extent of exploiting. I saw twitter posts that some demo locks had 120k hp already from it
pretty sure thats accurate
because when i pre earthen affli go
it soaks a lot of damgur based on heal meter
zechey qing without me 
🙏
Yea zerk in opener is kinda troll
Can get same cds with a cross cc and frenzy
Why did I loot the vault I didn’t need I had elite vaults that week
Ahhhh lesson learned
xd
🤢

I’d rather farm doing 2s as slow as that is than rbgs
rbadgs
rbgs are fun when ur new to them
\
bgs are kinda gas cuz i just brain off pve people
lock shaman dru?
Ya
It’s what I want to play 🥲
Glyph you’re playing turbo right
I feel like ret war has best shot but what do I know
glyphiestro is an absolute ele sham enthusiast
Yeah
Cause I feel like if you don’t have giga burst to pressure
You just pick who you die to
Ele or lock
Yeah
ur just an ele lover. isn't the comp you've played most ele+boomy too?
as the boomy obv

1.6k feels like 2.4k ls now
EU is scuffed
This is normal week 2 queues though
tony a hero
its a bit cancer but i can kinda understand it after i play my outlaw
also ur rogue skills
/rofl them

i mean
im better at outlaw
but ye
not a dps player
literally no clue how u play sub
every time i log dps
nobody 2 q with
so i either lfg for like 20 mins to get some random sussy guy
or log healer and wait 2mins
ima gine im me
"time to leave raiku"
and teh sussy guy
at the end KEKW
I never thought holy priest should have been nerfed
I thought all the healers should have been like holy priest
and omegadamp
I tried some healing and just did 40 yrd guradian aff rdru nd holy shit it was p boring, but at the same time i would have full hots n people just insta die
ye but ppl that flame healers for not healing random 1shots
are legit braindead ppl
i mean
Healing would be out of control
the thing is
u dont need to lower burst
u need to lower random bursts
like wings proc on ret
or demon proc on dh
I hate combust CDR so much
or random legendary procs like outlaw
Just increase hp pools by 30-40% and change nothing else
and also everything about outlaw
like cdr
gut cdr in general
its fairly stupid mechanic
Thing is with the way the Dam is now the dps has to press buttons too sometimes
Even with a full row of hots
no but the problem is
u can trade cds fine
but u can just die
to random kill shots
random ret wings
no chance my friend is hitting his wall before he's 5% hp
Like I finally got my DH trained
He’s blurring when I’m CC’d and the big buttons
He used t just blur when he was low
Yolo
bruuh u can train ur friends? lucky
If you know big damage even is coming
I look at raid frames
To see
Who walks
The Druids are always good with bark
But shamans for some reason never shift
Astral
I think part of it is because dungeon so new
No one knows the damage
But ya he’s gotten pretty good at it. He’s actually been blurring moment I get blinded and has dodged kidneys recently. It’s sick
I think id rather get kicked in the balls
i could NOT teach my monk friend to transcendence ever. He would either forget to put it down or forget to press it
im tlaking like..100s of games lol
Pver
But if u dont use port in raid
Thats a bit sussy
U can easily dodge mechanics with it
naw, he don't raid. he's just bad n casual
Well it’s diff in raid cause u know exactly when u port for which part of the fight
And it never changes
Once u figure out a good port time
Yeah and in pvp
U know u port
When u get kidneyd with cds up
Or port to dodge cc cast
Gg
gg
Was he MW?
no ww lol
I think everyone should have been buffed to holy priest. They had a full kit to handle a ton of SL Shit in many ways
kinda true
but blizzard cant do anyhting right
and imagine the qq
of ppl
because of the damp
I think people would choose SL over omegadamp tho
I woukd
yeah i would
I hate damp
id rather play go next than play for 15mins to lose to randomshit
8.3 was too damp for me. It was like...damp for 3 years, or destro lock kills u in 2 chaos bolts
I didn’t play 8.3 but I watched a random vod of Pikaboo talking about his awc games
i'd prob takae slands over that
Did he really
Sit there behind pillar
Until 41% damp
Or whatever
Then push to kill the lock
ye cuz
Was that actually what u did
locks were unkillable apes
That’s so fucking nuts
locks were so fucking taanky and also ACTUALLY did 300k chaos bolts where u have like 400k hp
only time it was worse was prenerf resolve prenerf destro 4set
in the zuldazar arena people waited for near 100% damp vs wizards
if they played full tryhard
and chaos bolt with all the haste had like a 1 second cast lol
you cant push into starting zone on that map and you cant move out
and guardian spirit is broken af
In 8.3
ye while stunned u had gigaversa
u either had an absolute dick load of vers, or u had like a lot of vers + gushing wounds
depends what you played but you could yes
Tranq bubble was actually a good addition
but yes u had to afk in starting room
glyph rsham 3min cd heals the same as serenity
ascend
heals same as serenity
instantly
no cap
buffma
tranq bubble is good, but its also kinda annoying how many ways healers have to negative cc with their option + marlieth FC
but ig its skill expression so its fine
i just rage when i fuck up
@vestal citrus would You have preferred holy priest get knocked down to rdruids or other healers bumped up to hpri
I love melding fleshing tranqing CC
That’s my opinion too
I think games are almost always more fun when u balance up rather than balance down, but it just creates insane power creep ig.
I distinctly remember enjoying rsham in MOP where if I juked a kick
I could top
And it felt good/outplay
Now it’s like
You’re just self CCing yourself trying to juke
really dislike that you basically cant kill outside cds, and cant kill through cds
Cause even if u juke it they’ll just murder u anyway or stun you lmao
That’s also probably a function of healing CDs also being too strong
absolutely yes
Like imagine if they took away a lot of the burst and buffed sustained
nono I dont want to reduce the burst in general
How would u kill against holy priest that just rotates GS and ray
do you mean proc-based burst
build-spend burst
shorter, unstackable CDs burst
?
depends what class
proc based burst already exists with venthyr BM
they get lucky == you eat a kill shot crit and die
yes I like that
almost every damgur spec has random proc
I guess I’m asking then wheres the counterplay for healers
by having more healing outside cds too
but yes if the stars align you wouldnt have counterplay
or at least not much
Oh you’re not talking about proc 100-0
not consistently at least no
like if you have both dps hit sth and get insanly lucky
sure
if like every 50th game or so gets decided by that id like that
but if its every 5th it would be shit
I guess you feel like alittle RNG is flavor. How do you feel about spell resists on CC in TBC?
Fwiw I don’t think that’s actually an uncommon take
if parry exists spell resist should exist, but ideally both are taken out
I like rng to some extend yea and spell resists are imo needed for tbc I think pvp would be worse in tbc without it but in general I dont like it
the resists are imo too much
But the classes are so unbalanced the script would overwhelmingly favor certain specs if there were no RNG elements?
I’m just guessing from what I heard. Never played
especially because I think you dont have anything fun to say, if you oneshot someone you are happy cause rng killed someone if you survive due to a resist you are imo way less excited/happy about it
and are more like cool I did resist
yes
rogue mage would be even more godmode
or double rogue
yea exactly
cuz its old game yeah let it be what it was
but on normal wow random rng should be limited
Resists would break up shit like RMP tho ngl
for sure, but I dont think a game when the slightly better team has a 99.9% winchance is good
If a blind could resist
rng should be limited but not removed
Where like you know you lost already because of the way buttons are but u have to play it out
how much of a % chance to win should the better team have? like 80%? the better team should def win a majority of the time or there's a serious problem
as long as i dont lose 1/3rd of my hp bar cuz warr procced random execute im fine with it
yeah
random killshit proc
how much better is better, that always depends
Random reck + infinite charges
where my rng 1 shot ability
cuz it procs bladestorm with it
gimme rng sickle
notsure who designed that

My biggest thing is CDR
yea 'better' is too vague ig cuz obv diff people are gonna be good at diff skills in the game, which is gonna interact with each other in diff ways
All these GO’s are getting CDR’d like fucking crazy but trinket still 2 min
but i don't think its a bad thing for a team that noticeably 'better' to win almost always
like for example minpojke/chan/mir in tbc 3s are absolutely dominating, way more compared to any team in shadowlands
now to why that is there are prolly multiple reasons including less fierce competition
whaaz is 63-13 on ladder right now
duno i dont watch tbc
mir etc are like 200-10
dh procing a demon
You know how fun it is when the enemy dh gets 5 demons before your dh gets 1 lol
20% fejer
but yeah
its dumb as heck
sure if u use the proc for a go then yeah
but if u just randomly pve ppl and u proc and delete half their hp bar thats not fun to play against
because on the go they still trade cds
random dmg u cant trade
or u die on the go
its dumb
outlaw is so stupid like 1min cd blind sap
xaryu was qqing
Their second combust is always on their third go no trinket
about his dmg
never seen anything more disgusing
vs a sp dmg
in like a 2min gaem
xarbald
where he did 100k
and sp did 400k
but he did 100k in 1 go
with combust
its like
y e
why the fuck
he has no brain
he does 100k in 5 seconds priest does 400k in 2 minutes
i cant even tell
if he was trolling
is the bad part
i think he was srsly qqin about dmg diff
I feel like over time the game has been balanced around CDs being their historical 1,2,3m timer against the 2 min trinket
in 6mins they can have 6 combust
Then uhhh CDR happened
lol
literally the most wiold shit ever
in 6mins i get at most 3 zerk
and its not comparable dmg
remember when it was pretty conventional rule of thumb to save trinket for blind
Yeah
rmp with 3k rogue 3.5k mage 3k priest at 1.6k
Kidney sap is so dumb
big true
remember when zechey was banned and we all said its for the best and now we're back here again
lol that's facts davder. I have like 5 orcs cuz when i make new characters i think...meh if i feel like pvping being an orc matters way more than getting 30 dps in pve
now he can teach us how to beat resto druids

I dont play good
U see
dont even try
shouldve seen how I just played jungle
he will tilt off the face of the earth
No but iam saying
@tropic schooner u were in my dream yelling at me about my conduit choices thx man cant even escape bullying in my sleep appreciate it
haha

oh yea what the fuck are your conduits?

What uhh conduits…
That's not bad honestly
Absolute shambles already
EXACTLY @tiny oar doesnt have any conduits slotted
Oh no.
If you can muscle memory arena you're at a point where you are likely absorbing most of the important you need
I know right
I mean muscle memory just means u have the mental bandwidth for the dynamic part of the game
I had a really good Q session today and felt like I did everything right and legit Carried us to wins
I don't always actively think about every move I make, I just feel it
all that muscle memory is from the 12k+ bgs ive played over the years which is bad
If ur constantly wondering what to do ur gonna miss shit
Then I’ll have a game where im literally sitting on my own hands
why is that bad?
Agreed tbh
I 98% just do my pve rotation on my opener in pvp cuz im so used to it lol
cause in bgs you kill noobs and nobody tries to outplay you
you just do pve rotation on people
its just hard to do quick thinking
thats why muscle memory exists. its a good thing to have it not a bada thing zechey lol
Little things like killing totems, psyfiend etc.. I’m not super consistent... and target selection is sus at times
Racials are really annoying like i make a new character i feel like im trolling if not human/orc
I need to voice man
Remove racials for sure
but if your muscle memory is adjusted to shit plays
Don’t take away my meld
over time it will shift
I just got it
Which?
Dont wana troll money away
U were talking about how shifting is mechanically the most unfun part of playing druid and so conduits that utilized that type of playstyle were awful lol
Tauren is my favorite race, lore and all that
haha
Just meld too good
Yes
I vaguely remember this from recently
my fucking friend says that. not in this discord, but he says he'll never play druid cuz shifting is 'too annoying'
I DONT GET HOW
whaats annoying about it
Prolly man this channel is fried takes galore
Huh
All the rando clowns that come in here trying to make harm hurt macros that combine 6 different functions
Fried
Ye but
I could go on man
Thats the randos who cares
Ofc randoms ask
😂😂😂😂
About guardian pvp
It changes to starsurge overgrowth bite depending on form and talent spec
Dude
And complain there isnt a guardian arena guide after they watch supabald videos
Lmao
What the fuck
Yeah
I think most people have that
It actually works great
Why do u need that macro
that's true. I feel like 10 diff people have come in this channel at different points to scream at us about how guardian is actully viable in arena
There’s a reason
When r u ever playing boomie aff
I have to look at it
(tbh if you have over 12 of those hotkeys you need it)
or use a hotkey not on your main bar
😈
Ep logic: logs on while im mid q sesh complains i dont q with him
That gave me braindamgur
I'm so confused man
Just getting ready for DF ok
you dont have that?
actually overgrowth
id prolly wanna be able to cast in cat
I think I have that bound in cat

If clone123 isn't zxc ur trolling
No I play feral aff every 2s game cuz I'm not weak willed
....
LMAO
so you have OG bound in cat?
Feral aff is big dam
Holdup let me login and copy and paste. I don’t remember what I did and why. It just works ok
im scared
No they're same button press
Just in cat vs caster
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,help,exists,nodead][help,exists,nodead] Overgrowth; [harm,exists,nodead,stance:2] Ferocious Bite; [harm,exists,nodead,stance:4] Starsurge; [@player] Overgrowth;
that answer is very confusing
so it is the same
as the macro

if youd have a macro checking the stances at least
Idk man I'm losing my mind daily
@tropic schooner how do I macro silence and psychic horror to the same buttóné
I was scared for not much reason outside wasted space by writing exists its not too bad
get out
Help me help u
Exists redundant?
Ahhh ok
Add partition by to the overgrowth line so everyone can have a hot
Yo I use those
Thats what I do
What
what?
omg fucking pvers
Just know that I think its fr*cking WEIRD
id personally move mouseover behind target
but outside that part
maybe mouseover even to the very end
#showtooltip
/cast [spec:2/3/4,talent:3/1] Typhoon; [spec:1/2,talent:3/2][spec:4,talent:3/3] Incapacitating Roar; [@cursor,spec:1/2/3,talent:3/3] Ursol's Vortex; Maim
Dead grass
I dont have any help harm macros I dont like the idea of 1 bind being multiple buttons depending on shit
Feels entirely unnecessary
#showtooltip
/cast [spec:2/3/4,talent:3/1] Starsurge; [spec:1/2,talent:3/2][spec:4,talent:3/3] Frenzied Regeneration; [@mouseover,exists,spec:1/2/3,talent:3/3][spec:1/2/3,talent:3/3] Swiftmend
#showtooltip
/cast [@raid6,exists];[@arena1,exists][] Cyclone
/stopmacro [@raid6,noexists]]
/cast Cyclone
First one is super common
I have one for like hotw/bash ofc but that's it
prolly for a specific boss
I'm fairly sure I got that cyclone macro from Glyph
Or roar/ typhoon / maim
confuses me
Wdym. If I mouseover a friendly target or target a friendly and hit R. It overgrowths. If I’m in cat and targeting a bad guy and hit R it bites. If I’m in boomkin and target a bad guy and hit R is surges
I haven’t had a niche situation yet where I wanted it to do something and it did something else
Fb bound to R ???
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead] Moonfire
/cast [@mouseover,help,nodead,spec:4][help,nodead,spec:4] Lifebloom
/cast Moonfire
but yea im with lake here not a help/harm fan either
but I was a lot more scared of that macro
Yea that's a weird playstyle to me idk
like for example this one
always happy to horrify people with my macros 😄
this would warrant the fear
If it works for u fine but I would find it clunky
that one is an absolute mess
why is it a mess?
moonfire if mouseover enemy
lifebloom if mouseover friend and resto
lifebloom if target friend and resto
moonfire if target enemy
you cant mouseover an enemy and an ally at the same time
but you can target an ally and mouseover enemy
@stray sigil this is what happens when pvers get interested in pvp. You have us sharing our best macros
yes and in that case I'd want to moonfire
In your channel
I'd hold down right mouse if I want to lifebloom
yea and id say thats a ???
but also even outside that
the 3 lines
are a mess
what if ur mousing over by accident lol
I hold right mouse a lot
I bound forward to W
same
i bound forward to w
And shift s is archeology
I keep my mouse over raidframes
but wanna hit boss
in this case id either need to rightclick
or move mouse over boss
My wife bound killshot to space bar
Yeah i agree
Space bar good
WHAT LOL
U CAN EVEN JUMP?
W
Wait
part
WTF???
I think my binds are a bit cursed on resto because I've never been one to swap my binds by form
No I'm kidding about W
WHAAAAAT
Killshot was shift space actually
no worries you cant beat my binds
Oh ok
My mount is shift space that's ok
Shift space actually kinda good imo
depending on the class I play

I WILL NEVER UNBIND BACKPEDDLE
actually, technically same
I also have for example focus hex as resto on alt q and as ele on shift g
Backpebble no one steal this name
my demo lock has interrupt bound to G
instead of F because pet stun is normally my interrupt
my kick is always F
same spells on different buttons depending on the spec I am
Shift space is meld
my kicks are on r t mouse 4, mouse 5 and q depending what I play
I think those are all keys
Kick = '
My kicks always 1 when I play dps
r is most melees besides feral and rogue which are on bottom mouse, q is for shaman, mage is top mouse button, moonkin is t, forgot shadow thats on f
It's one button away from ur '?
I dont like 1 is a button
so I tend to use it on something I dont use too often
most of my fillers are like 3/4/e
It's different
When you guys play hybrids do you put all your team casts on mouse wheel
On my spriest I have party mend, grip, swap all on wheel
So when I wheel I do them all at once
Somehow my I don't have anything important on mousewheel generally
Druid it's I think travel form
Usually
Sometimes travel form is t
Scroll up wild charge scroll down drinking
Pala its hoj
Only great one is stormstrike on mousewheel up and down
So I can change spinning direction
If I wanna
Top row of mmo mouse for me
Dont have mmo mouse
I used to have one but idk
They arent comfy for normal use and other games
Do u want me to send u one in the mail
2 button nuff for me
What was game changer for me was aerox 9
Its a lightweight mmo mouse
The other ones were too heavy for annoying for other games
Nah im fine with what igot atm
I got like
Logitech hero something
Because im a hero
As isual
ive used deathadder for like 10 years. they break like every year but the strat is to get the $10 3 year insurnce from best buy nd i just get new ones every so often lol
Hm
Ya i used to use deathadder actually
Good mouse scroll became funky after a few years
razor is like 2/10 for durability
But i pressed on and bought logitech 700 something wireless
Wireless is nice
Using deathadders for like 10+ years too changing like every 3-4 years I'd say
Haven't had any issue with those myself
Keyboards and headphones on the other hand
maybe im more violent with my mouse movement lol
Wireless is heroic
Im tryna go full wireless
But its a bit expesnive
Also my corsair k65 been going strong since 2014-15ish cant remeb when i got it
Not sure how its still alive
With all the flith on it
And in it
Headphone worst offender for me
Been changing like every 2 years
im sure wireless would be nice but im waay too scared of it cutting out at a horrible moment
They are awful
yea my headsets break fast
U get like
Notification
When Its low
And u plug it in
And play like its wired
Its kinda heroic
thats legendaray
Like i thought id have that too
But i turned off all leds on my mouse and i charge it like once a week
And i play around 12hr a day
U root out the leds lifespan of battery doubles its magic
Idc about the rbadg leds
o dam that's way longer than i'd assume it could last
Same
Works really well nowadays
And it seems small but not even feeling the cable at all is actually noticeable
And I usually have mine on a bungee
hmm maybe ill try a wireless headset
Only used a mouse so far

One of the newer hyperx models
And shit
its prob like 1 grand though
And those shits are tiny
hm, expensive but not ridiculous
Ya it’s not totally unreasonable
I am always terrified when I buy a new headset though. I wear glasses and some headsets push my glasses into my skull and just destroy my will to live. I gotta pray its good quality audio / mic, decently durable so it doesn't break instantly, but also comfortable enough so that my skull doesn't get punctured
prob the most complicated purchase I make lol
I’m the same man
I have big ol Korean bobble head and glasses
Hard to find something that works well
Summit1g’a headset was actually perfect lmao
that dude has a big head
Sumsmash
Ya that’s how I knew it would fit
